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Nice to have you along on this Friday morning, April 11th.
And one more hour of our week here visiting family in Idaho.
I got to tell you watching a nearly full moon over the past hour here.
I'm looking due west and watching it start to set over the the sawtooth range here, west of Idaho Falls is is
It's second to none.
I tell you, I love Wisconsin, but boy, that's a sight I will never get tired of.
Coming up, we've got guests in all four segments of this hour today.
Karine Hendrickson's coming up to talk a bit about childcare and a new survey of providers from around the state.
We will have our Week in Review panel coming up with former U.S.
Attorney Jim Santel, journalist Mark Jacob and Jennifer Scholesy.
We'll talk about the ways that Donald Trump has been weaponizing the Department of Justice in ways never seen before to go after political opponents.
the political opponents who aren't committing crimes, unlike what some folks accused the Biden administration of doing.
We will talk about Ben Wickler stepping down as head of the State Democratic Party and where the party goes from here.
Dan Schumacher will wrap things up talking about sports and then I'm off to the airport to get back to God's country, as I guess I have to call it, but then I have to walk off stage like what's his face did on Saturday Night Live.
But first, before all of that, we've got to get to the weekend forecast details and for that,
meteorologist, Brittany Merleau is here to tell us more.
Brittany, good morning.
Good morning.
How are you doing so far on this Friday?
Good here.
Obviously, I've, I've, I'm still managing to wind about the cool weather back home in Wisconsin, even though I'm not there.
We're all blinding.
Yep.
But it's been quiet and slowly, slowly getting warmer.
So tell us what we're expecting for the weekend.
Yeah, so first thing we have to do is get through the thick fog first.
We've got dense fog advisories from about Baraboo, Wisconsin Rapids, north through Eau Claire into Hayward, visibility near zero in some of those spots.
So take it easy this morning.
That will all clear on out of here by nine to 10 o'clock this morning and then you'll see the sunshine.
There's a lot of it out there.
Beautiful bright blue skies expected today and warmer temperatures making it to those mid fifties all across the state.
Everybody.
except for if you're right up against the lake, then you're not going to get that warm.
I'm sorry, you're going to be into those upper 40s along Lake Michigan and Lake Superior.
But the rest of us feeling some spring temperatures, we've got another bright start to the day tomorrow.
We will see clouds increasing though, so wake up and enjoy it early.
We will hit the low to mid sixties.
So finally feeling some spring warmth that'll be breezy though by the evening and then as we go into Sunday.
A system does swipe, especially up north.
We are looking at mostly cloudy skies up north, highs on Sunday, only in the upper 40s for them with scattered showers and maybe a thunderstorm rolling through.
Well, down south on Sunday, you'll see partly cloudy skies and highs in those low 60s.
Now, Monday, that rain rolls through the entire states and it could flip to some snow on the back end, especially north Monday night and into Tuesday.
I'm just pausing for effect.
that she's saying snow still at this part of
April.
Greg has more of an audio pause for silent effect here to express her displeasure.
But it's not at you.
It's not at you.
It's just, it's just, wait, I've got somebody in the comments section saying that Alicia says, this is Wisconsin.
Real spring is a myth.
Okay.
It's all part of the deep space trying to get me to believe in weather.
Oh, no.
It's what the guy's saying.
It's climate manipulation.
I'm like, all right,
that's what I was looking for.
I'm like, wait, what was that phrase?
Climate manipulation.
This weather gets me down.
And literally he goes, this weather gets me down, man, but it's not climate change.
People say that it's climate manipulation.
Like, let's
embrace it.
Let's embrace it.
Let's go for it.
Starting Monday.
Welcome to we're not going to call it the weather anymore.
Starting Monday, welcome to Climate Manipulation with Brittany
Merleau.
Let's see how long it'll be before somebody takes that seriously.
They're actually confessing to
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No, that now Marjorie Taylor Greene is going to be mad at us and it's going to be a thing.
Brittany, thank you.
Have a great weekend, Brittany.
We'll talk to you later.
You too.
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Derek Van Orden's angry denials that he was going to vote for anything that would cut benefits.
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Let's bring in now, Karine Hendrickson, who you're like, wait, wasn't she just on Wednesday?
Yeah.
But she also teased something on Wednesday that there was about to be released a new statewide report on childcare providers to tell us kind of the state of the industry.
So welcome back and morning.
How are you?
I know.
So you actually get a break from the kiddos here, but to obviously
talk about some important topics.
And it was actually through Governor Evers office, along with the Wisconsin Department of Children and Families, that announced what they called the DCF's Child Care Counts Stabilization Survey.
And you kind of gave us a preview of coming attractions, but now you've actually seen the numbers.
So if I tell you the governor's top line on this said a quarter of providers across the state are somewhat
Very or extremely likely to close their doors if the legislature fails to make critical investments to the child care accounts program I'm gonna guess that on the on the surprise meter That's a zero for you.
You're not the least bit surprised at this
So this also part of that though is people are going to think that we're going to close immediately the next day.
And that's not going to necessarily happen.
Several will close right away.
We're actually hearing several are closing in May already because they still can't make it work even with some investment.
And knowing that this is coming, they're just not.
able to, they're out of the fight and I completely understand it's heartbreaking and awful.
It's going to hurt these families and these children and the providers and the educators that have poured their heart and souls into this career and they're going to like leave.
But the thing is, those that are doing the educating are going to now probably double their salary and get benefits somewhere else.
And that is the crux of the issue.
So what's going to happen is we need to increase our rates to offset that loss of funding because
It is 1% is our average profit margin.
It's not that we have all this extra money sitting around.
It's expensive.
to run a child care program that's high quality because you have to have that one-on-one low ratio teacher-child relationship so that the children can actually learn from the teacher and the other people and the other children, the environment, etc.
And we only pay $13.66 an hour.
It's up $3 an hour only because of all that federal funding that came through.
So if we're going to replace that with tuition,
We've done the math and it's about $10 to $15 a week per child that we have to increase.
So parents are already paying half of their income on childcare.
You're looking at adding another $30 to $45 a week on top of that.
just to keep the wages at $13 an hour, which it's impossible to recruit and retain.
And myself, as a family child care, our average is like $7.50 an hour.
And we work 50 hours one-on-one with these kids and an additional 10 to 20 extra on cleaning and cooking and, you know, all the things that go into running a business.
The survey, though, you mentioned that it offers up some validity for what you've been saying all along.
What do you mean by that?
Those of us who had already been in business two years ago before the last round of the budget when the state legislative body joint finance committee decided they did not want to fund childcare with any sort of state funds.
Then we all said, well, our rates are going to go up.
We're going to start closing.
All these things are going to happen.
And so the survey actually has that in there.
So we had to answer the questions like, what did you do?
What happened to your tuition?
What happened to this?
And it showed that what we said was going to happen.
And so this time.
there's no way that reasonable way that the legislators could say, well, they're just being hysterical.
They're just exaggerating what's going to happen because they want that hand up.
No,
we're being honest and we're telling you this is the consequence for your inaction because we can't keep going.
It's unsustainable at this rate.
You've already shown that you know that we're important.
You have already shown that you know that we need to be around.
You told us to make that the Rescue Plan funds do this as a pilot because DCF has actually asked for it now three times in the state budget to put funding in to help increase wages.
And they said no.
And they said use it as a pilot.
Prove it works.
They did.
We did.
It worked.
And they still said no.
And Governor Evers saved them because he was able to claw back funds from other departments that were not used.
And
keep it going for another year.
No one's
Yeah.
So, so again, this, you know, it's no longer just thoughts and feelings.
It's, it's actual hard data.
that you see being provided.
And there are still a couple of more opportunities to talk to the Joint Finance Committee and say to these legislators, 12 Republicans and four Democrats, that there are ways that they can help.
And other states are stepping up.
And we're the last state to fall off the cliff because we did find that Governor Evers was able to claw back money and keep it going for another year.
Other states fell off the cliff last year kind of.
throughout the year or even before that.
And their states are investing.
Louisiana even put $50 million in their state budget.
There's about 20 states that have put state dollars in the state budget and don't rely solely on the federal tax dollars that are coming into the state.
And again, if you want to provide some of that input to your legislator, you can email the Joint Finance Committee through this address, budget.comments at legis.wisconsin.gov.
Legis is LEGIS for legislature.
One more time, budget.comments at legis.wisconsin.gov.
Karin, we appreciate hearing a bit more about the survey itself, the hard data on this, and we're going to want to touch base after the Joint Finance Committee hearings are done and see what Republicans actually propose for language in the budget and get your reaction to it.
Thanks so much for joining us.
this morning.
All right.
Enjoy the conference.
Have a good weekend.
We'll talk to you again soon.
Let's see.
I didn't even get to sports last hour.
We've had such a busy morning here so far.
And that is because maybe in part because the Milwaukee Brewers lost to Colorado.
Seven to two.
Why did they lose?
Well, they went one for 13 with runners in scoring position.
Bryce Terang ended his 12 game hitting streak.
Although Jackson Cheerio extended his hitting streak to 12 games, the Brewers are now starting a three game series in Arizona.
And that will get started tonight at 805 coverage on several civic media stations for that series in Arizona, the Bucks beat New Orleans 136 111.
Or we can review panel after this.
You're up north.
I like Ben Wickler, I consider him a friend, but so apologies if I'm making him wince right now.
But what else are you going to do if you're going to lead a segment talking about Ben Wickler, then go with Michael Jackson.
I mean, I don't I don't have the theme to gentle Ben here, or I maybe would play that.
Anyway, welcome back to our weekend review panel.
22 Pats the Hour.
Jennifer Scholes is here, Mark Jacob and former US Attorney Jim Santel.
Good morning, all of you.
How are you?
Good morning.
Uh, I caught Jennifer doomscrolling there during the break and asked her what it was and just it doesn't matter.
It's all doom anyway, but we'll get to some of the headlines, especially nationally as we often do.
We've got a lot to talk about with President Trump and criminal behavior and weaponizing the the Department of Justice, but even though, uh, you know, Mark, Jennifer
You're Chicago based and you cover a lot of national stories You certainly understand, you know the importance of Wisconsin and the impact of Ben Whitler as a state Democratic Party chair from a national standpoint Jennifer is it fair to say mission accomplished for you know for what he could do and what what a party chair is capable of doing?
I would say as well, Mark, that a state party chair is one of those positions we just don't ever seem to talk about.
But in part because of the work that Ben's done these past six years, it actually, we actually are more aware of party chairs than we used to be.
I'd say the, if you quizzed people, maybe the only other time they followed a party chair was that time when Howard Dean was running the DNC.
No, no, no, people don't pay attention to it, but, but Wickler really had was high profile and needed to be, you know, you guys have been really fighting hard.
Uh, there's been just.
There's been so much difficulty there, you know, and here down here in Illinois, you know, I've been paying attention to how the ULINE family has stuck a lot of money to, you know, for pro-Trump people.
And I feel like that's why Ben Nella Barnes may have lost because the money from
Yeah, Mark.
Well, I got you.
I want to continue with you and get to your your column this week.
And I don't have it right in front of me, but it was something like 20 rude questions.
The media should be asking.
And can you can you talk more about that?
I mean, rude is just another word saying direct.
questions.
Yeah, the
So what happens with the media covering big newsmakers is, they'll ask questions, they'll ask questions, but then they never get answers and they forget about it all.
It just rolls down the river, never to be heard from again.
And politicians know that.
And so they know if they can stave off the questions for a day or two, they'll never hear about it again.
And so I wanted to raise some
some things that people may have forgotten, such as Pete Hengseth has promised to not drink as defense secretary.
Is that the case?
Is he not drinking?
I just wonder.
I guess it's a rude question, but I just wonder.
I'd love to hear Donald Trump talk more about his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein.
What did he really like about the sex predator?
Did he think the sex predator was a clever conversationalist or what?
I'd like to know that.
I'd like to know Melania Trump.
Was supposed to hold a press conference in the summer of 2016 to explain to her whole immigration status Trump said it was gonna happen in the next two weeks That was 2016 never happened and you know and and and a lot of people I think if you brought it up today would think oh That's that's not fair game.
Well, that sure is a fair game because he probably pulled strings to get her into the country on a Einstein visa as they call it when she shouldn't have been
You know, in fact, she probably worked illegally before she got the visa.
So anyway, so there's lots like that.
Yeah, and so you can get that stop the presses dot news and Jennifer of course has her Indistinct chatter newsletter on substack although we we hear Ben Wickler starting a substack to Jennifer So we're we're all getting one now.
We're everybody's everybody's competing with us
exactly.
I don't know Jim Santel did you start a substack yet?
Are you you happy enough just having a two-hour Saturday morning talk shows statewide?
And of course, and on that broadcast and this one as well, add additional questions.
Here's another one for Mark and all the rest of us.
Remember when Donald Trump promised he was going to release all of his tax returns?
The IRS is awfully slow in completing that audit.
Are they not?
Where is
that?
Slowest audit ever.
But, you know, I come back to Richard Nixon.
and trying to weaponize government for his own personal political ambitions.
And we, you know, weaponizing the Department of Justice, weaponizing the Internal Revenue Service.
And so you bring up the IRS, Jim, and I mean, for Nick, Nixon was amateur hour compared to what Trump is doing.
And I don't mean that as a compliment.
I mean, for Nixon, even thinking he could use DOJ this way was enough to get him impeached.
And 50 years later, it doesn't seem like any kind of a big deal.
He was more than dipping his toe into all kinds of things, including empowerment problems, a variety of things.
But again, we acknowledge and we embrace the fact that, you know what, the rule of law worked, and the system worked, and he was about to be thrown out of office.
And he did, in fact, abide by the directives of a federal district court judge who turned over those tapes that were his unfounding in the end.
Here we've got a president that just, again, elapsed.
24 hours or so has identified two people for the first time, among others likely to come and refer them basically, one of them expressed the other to the Department of Homeland Security, but one of them to the Department of Justice to open an investigation, a criminal investigation to see whether or not this particular person, again, his name is Christopher Krebs.
He was when we had the audacity to suggest that the 2020 election
was in fact not stolen, was not the product of voting machines being compromised.
And today, there is a referral of him to Pam Bondi to open any criminal investigation to determine whether or not he's violated the law.
That kind of thing, hugely problematic for two reasons.
One is it completely runs roughshod.
He vaults over any separation of the Department of Justice from the executive branch, which has always been the tradition.
And second, and here's the real specter.
If these two who are on Donald Trump's list plainly from back in the first term are on at the start of this, more is to come, including journalists, academics, people in business all across the board.
I'll give him the name.
Here's Pat Crichtlow.
Open the investigation.
And again, as we know, the investigation.
Is let me
let me turn that around then on Donald Trump when we come back from this break This is up north news radio on the civic media radio network back with our weekend review panel and just bet
Okay, I did find another song that mentions a bet.
I admit it.
But the thing is, this one's coincidental because what I was originally looking for was what was number one on the charts this week in 1974.
when we were at the height of Watergate and Nixon abusing power.
How was I to know it was going to be Benny and the Jets by Elton John.
So welcome back to up north news radio or we can review panelists here journalist Jennifer Schultz, Jennifer Schultz, Mark Jacob, Jim Santel, holy cow, it's Friday, get me on an airplane.
Guys, welcome back.
Let's, let's pick up Mark, we were talking about the the way that the president of the United States is now directing
that what could be criminal investigations are launched against people, not for committing any crime, but to look for a crime because he doesn't like what they did.
And so we've talked about him doing that with Chris Krebs, you know, who was this top advisor who made clear that the 2020 election was one of the most secure ever.
Now, he's Trump is telling the Justice Department to look at his actions.
And here's the New York Times headline.
Trump escalates use of official power to intimidate and punish his perceived foes.
A presidential decree instructing the Justice Department to scrutinize whether a former official broke the law crosses a new line.
It crosses a new line?
I mean you could do the same headline could say Trump shoots somebody on Fifth Avenue.
Has he finally crossed a line?
Well, they're just afraid that they walk right up to what they should say and then they step carefully away.
I mean, there's no reason they can't say abuse of power.
It's an abuse of power.
Pat, though, that headline is actually better than a sentence in the New York Times story a few days ago in which...
They wouldn't use the term dictatorship or anything.
They're writing about Trump's retribution, you know about his abuses of power and how he's just he really is he's moving more and more toward dictatorship he just is and The New York Times described it as a maximalist view of his power Trump has a maximalist view of his power in other words, you know so did Stalin so did Hitler so did Mao I mean come on give it, you know that their inability to say what's right in front of us
is, is, is, it's just frustrating.
So here's where I get to turn it around now.
And I'll start with the former US attorney here.
And granted, this isn't going to happen right now, Republicans control Congress.
But if the midterms don't go well for Trump, and Democrats take back the House and the Senate, and let's say they have a particularly good year, and they come close to or reach 60 votes in the Senate,
James, we've been hearing ever since Trump came on the scene that a sitting president and sometimes a former president, you know, cannot be tried for criminal activity.
It's basically what Richard Nixon said.
Well, if the president does it, it's not a crime.
Can we finally give that up now?
And if a president of the United States is committing crimes that somehow it can be found, you know, in 2027 with a Democratic Congress, a way to say even a president cannot commit crimes while in office?
What the four of us are talking about this morning is that that concept on July 1 comes from, yes, indeed, our United States Supreme Court, the Chief Justice, who said at that time that the president not only has to be muscular and strong and vital and active, all the horrific things that are not in the Constitution, but also it is now the law of the land that any president
has these immunities.
Now there's no reason for complete despair because of course we had a former president who had that immunity but did not exercise it to commit crimes here.
So what should an active congress do come 2027 begin to pass and we see the introduction of some of this all kinds of legislation which can indeed not just clip the wings of a president
but also say it is illegal for the president to do these kinds of things, including if you want to include on a broad, broad list of things, reverse what the Congress has done in terms of funding overseas domestically, cannot expose our agencies to people who do not have security clearances and let the social security information and other things out there.
All those kinds of things, Congress can pass laws to prohibit within their purview.
the capacity, the balance, the check and balance between the Congress and the President to prohibit him from doing many of these things.
without having to rescind completely what John Roberts wrote back in July.
And I know when that will happen.
It will happen when there's a Republican Congress and a Democratic president about to take office.
If we can't if we can't count on the New York Times because they give us lines like Mr. Trump has chipped away at the norms.
Well, Jennifer, if it's not going to be, you know, the New York Times or the national media, how about at the local level, your latest on substack talks about, you know, local media holding the president to account.
As we've talked about before, local news has a different remit, I think than national news.
Their job, I think, is to reflect what's happening.
to their communities.
And they do a really good job of it.
I know local news, newspapers and TV and radio have all suffered a lot in the last 20 plus years and newsrooms are shrinking or whatever.
But when there's a big story in this week, it's been the tariffs impacts.
A lot of them really are stepping up there in Wisconsin.
You guys have a really, I think, impressive news outlet, the Wisconsin Examiner.
They did a piece
late last week about how your trade delegation was in Europe as all of this was happening and figuring out how to help manufacturers in Wisconsin who are really worried about how they're going to get the parts for the machines that.
are made in Wisconsin.
Across the country, local news, that's what they do.
When people are reacting to big national stories, they go and actually put a face on it.
And I think it's always important to talk about that because otherwise I think we forget about the role that they play when we're, and I know I am super focused on what the New York Times and the big journalism does, but local journalism is doing something different.
And I think it's a good thing.
Yeah.
And Wisconsin Examiner, part of state's newsroom, which is different than courier newsroom.
But again, they too doing just incredible work, especially in the investigative area.
Ruth Conniff just has an incredible team going on there.
Mark, we talked about your latest column on 20 Root Questions.
The latest in your video series,
is about the big law firms and universities that, much like some of the national media, are just rolling over.
And this just cannot be a good president.
Nothing good can come of this with what these law firms and universities are doing.
And this video series called On Target, I do with Stephen Beschloss.
You know, we found ourselves actually praising a New York Times editorial, which is not something we do very often.
But this one is really on target.
And it said that
These law firms and universities do not have to roll over to this intimidation that they can fight it that the law firms who have fought it are doing okay in court I mean they may very well win because this is it just seems patently illegal and universities need to
Be solid about it.
The president of Princeton is actually being really brave and leading the charge to fight back these other universities Columbia University is pretty much seems willing to just hand over the University to Trump and that's that is such an alarming thing We all ought to be really scared about that
Jim Santel former US Attorney.
I want to ask you about
another legal matter and that that it deals with the essentially the disappearing of people off our streets and the Trump administration saying, well, once we get them out of the country, if they're in a gulag in El Salvador someplace, I mean, there's there's nothing we can really do about it.
There was this nine to nothing ruling by this by the US Supreme Court late yesterday about this.
Maryland father scooped up.
He's still in this, you know, notorious prison, having been charged with nothing, having been falsely accused of things.
And yet, even with a nine nothing ruling, that it sounds like there's still some legal wiggle room for the Trump administration to not be forced to get this guy back or who should have been brought back within like 24 hours, not 24 days.
Even when the Supreme Court earlier this week said, we're going to take a look at this, the reactions of most of us rational people was, why?
The Fourth Circuit has already said, describe this as a government kidnapping.
A government kidnapping.
The answer should have been right now by the end of the day today.
You get those planes down there.
You get this United States citizen back here and restore his.
presence with his family.
That's what the Chief Justice should have done.
Instead, what we did is we waited a couple of days, issued this very circuitous and furious order in which he seemed to say, okay, we're gonna send this back to the lower court judge who has also said this is outrageous, but she's gotta interpret her words a little bit more clearly because she may have overcome and overridden some of the other obligations in the diplomacy sphere.
What are you talking about, John Roberts?
This is a United States citizen who was improperly.
The government acknowledges this, by the way, the attorney who did so in court, now suspended by our deputy attorney general.
We acknowledge that he's improperly there.
Get him back here right now.
There's inscribed in the front of the Supreme Court building says, justice for all, but apparently not for Mr. Abrego Garcia, who still today, after a month, is presumably still
in that high security, brutal prison in El Salvador, the United States Supreme Court, at the head of which is John Roberts, should have been clear and simply said, get him back here.
The four circuits opinion, the lower court judge's opinion was clear.
And if you don't do it, you're in contempt.
Interesting to see what Pam Bondi will do today and this weekend about whether or not they will obstruct even this order based upon this curious wiggly language that John Roberts has given.
And I fear it takes us, Jennifer, that much closer to the day.
And it will be a landmark day in this country's history when the US Supreme Court is not, you know, vague about something and clearly order something.
And Trump steps up to a bank of microphones and says to the Supreme Court, you and what army?
And I
Again, if I had to put money down, I'd say those words are going to be uttered from his lips at some point.
And then will media say we're in a constitutional crisis?
I think we are days, weeks.
No, we're not that far from it.
Trump's given every indication that he thinks he is above everything.
I mean, just look at how he's dealt with the stuff with the markets and tariffs this week.
Just there's no accountability and we have a long road to walk with this guy.
I think it's only going to get worse.
Mark, what is when Jennifer mentions the markets, I have to ask you this.
Do you have a confidence level that at some point we may learn about some of the insider trading that's been done over the past week or two?
I mean, Trump has spoken in, you know, terminology like, Oh, people got very rich because of me and my dealings in the market.
And, you know, I said a couple of times now in the past couple days, I don't want to hear from Hakeem Jeffries about this.
I don't want to hear from Chuck Schumer.
I want Martha Stewart to step up to a bank of microphones.
and say, Are you kidding me?
And I'm hoping I've still got hope out there that there's going to be a signal chat someplace where they're talking about what to
Yeah, but it would take that because, you know, I mean, it was just shocking.
I mean, he's in the Oval Office joking about how many millions his friends made off of these these stock trades.
And and his creation of this volatility is a giant opportunity for anyone with insider information to make a ton.
And, you know, for his pals, too.
So do I have any confidence that that that anyone would find out about that?
Or I mean, I just I feel like that kind of financial
misconduct is exactly what Trump is allowing by eroding all the oversight, you know, and I mean, in so many ways, Trump has taken away any of the guardrails, any of the oversight for financial crimes like this.
I'm just going to leave you.
I'm sorry.
I just think I'm sorry.
I'm not I'm not laughing at that.
I'm not the bandits will get away with it.
I'm
not laughing at I'm laughing at as I was looking at the at the New York Times politics section, the new top story on there.
Here's the headline.
president's talk of a third term defies constitution and tests democracy.
How much do they own a furniture store for how much they can couch their language and everything?
This is it blows me away.
And I love that I have this therapy session with you guys every week.
Mark Jacob, Jennifer Shouly, Jim Santel, Jim shows tomorrow morning at nine across the Civic Media radio network.
Gang, thank you so much.
I really appreciate you.
Have a great
All right, when we come back, we're going to talk to Dan Schumacher, do a little bit of sports to wrap things up here from the Great Mountain West before getting back to Wisconsin.
This is Up North News Radio on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Now they we mentioned that today is national a track day and Michael from Tosa puts on the text line No a track should not have its own day.
I hate it with the heat of a thousand sons What you're playing what you're playing here?
What you're playing here Greg sounds like it's from the a track era
Dad what are we playing right now?
Yep.
And for, I like the way you describe, you described it too with the, with the, uh, like, if this was an eight track, you'd be like, all right, this is a great
song.
It comes again.
time.
That's exactly what I did,
Ari Fleck.
Oh, Ari Berman.
Ari
Melbourne.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Oh.
Okay, is that are you gonna do that with the
Yeah.
Well, the thing is, I mean, now what year was that song roughly?
Because again, we've been talking about Nixon and Watergate.
And you know, they were, you know, they were of that era when they say 77.
It does have a very 70s quality to it.
Let's see here.
Let's look it up for you
all.
That's OK.
Well, while you do that, I got to answer the other question that I first asked at six o'clock this morning.
And that's who are the Broncos playing?
That, of course, would be the Western Michigan University.
And that would be Boston University, who defeated Penn State in the other national semifinal game late last night.
Three to one, the Western Michigan Broncos defeated Denver University.
Three to two in double overtime are killing me.
So it's Western Michigan versus Boston U tomorrow.
5 30 central time on ESPN two for the national men's collegiate hockey division one championship.
So
It is only April, which is why we haven't said too much about your first place Chicago Cubs.
But go ahead.
I figured that's where you're going.
a game piece
I said actually, and I said this yesterday.
You know, that's something that I don't see a lot of people talking about the fact that the Cubs are first place.
And I said this last year when Craig council took over, I said, don't be surprised if in his second or third season, the magic starts happening.
He finds his groove because he's one of the best coaches.
And I, yeah, this is not surprising to me.
So it's going to be, it's going to
but she never
But you know, for, and this is almost more for Brittany Merleau than for you, but I know that I've seen in Facebook posts, both stadiums for the Sox and the Cubs.
Not great crowds for these first couple of weeks of the baseball season here.
I
You know, the Cubs, and the Cubs one, I didn't know if it was weather or if that was just somebody, you know, took the photo like pregame, you know, or something like that, because I mean, Wrigley,
Wrigley still sells out all the time, right?
Yeah,
So it's just a matter of whether people they get the ticket, whether they whether they show up or or not.
So all right, so we've we've covered collegiate hockey here.
I suppose there are other things going on.
You mentioned the Cubs, the the Brewers lost one in Colorado.
But again, they take two out of three.
That's the first series they've taken in Colorado since 2018, I believe.
Talk about, yes, talk about your weirdly specific sports stat.
Jackson Churio, over three consecutive games, has three home runs, two doubles, six extra base hits, 12 RBIs, and a stolen base.
And it says here, becoming only the fourth player in baseball history to compile those numbers in three straight games, joining Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, and Shohei Otani.
Oh, wow.
If that's not the most weirdly specific stat, I mean, hey, I'm right up there with Babe Ruth.
Well, yeah, if we find ways to really play with the statistics, you're right up there with the Babe and Lou Gehrig.
I'm right up there with Babe Ruth for most hot dogs eating in a single sitting while wearing a silk shirt and smoking a cigar.
So, you know, what we're talking about next week here, Dan, will be the NBA playoffs, the regular season ends on Sunday.
First will be that ridiculous
play in tournament where, I mean, basically a 10 seed could become like an eight or a seven seed.
And I'm still not a fan of that.
I mean, you're letting 20 teams into the postseason.
But, you know, it is what it is.
The Bucks will almost certainly end up as a five seed, which means they'll probably be playing the Indiana Pacers, a team that they have not had great success against.
But I suppose we wipe the slate clean when you start the postseason.
Yeah, I was that
The Lakers went back to Dallas since Dallas did perhaps the dumbest trade ever in sending Luca Donkic to the Lakers and of course Luca had this amazing performance in his old hometown and I just don't know how that general manager or whoever made the decision in Dallas.
I mean that would be
Well, I mean, you can use your own analogy, but to try to weigh the most beloved player in your city makes absolutely no sense.
But it's why I don't even know how excited I can get about the NBA postseason because the Lakers are completely unstoppable at this point.
Yes.
Yeah, it's definitely part of it.
So, all right.
Well, hey, thank you, Dan.
Appreciate it.
Take care up there in Ashland.
We'll talk again real soon.
right, Mr. Bach is back with Jane Mattenair two short hours from now for Mattenair on air.
Next week on Monday, we will be talking with somebody from an economic think tank about the impact of tariffs on Wisconsin farmers.
And we will be talking about the impact on Wisconsin investors with Sean O'Malley on Tuesday.
I'll hear on up north news radio back in Chippewa Falls next week.
I'm Pat Crite low.
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See you Monday morning up north.
