Wisconsin Pays the Price (Hour 1)

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Wisconsin Pays the Price (Hour 1)

Mornings with Pat Kreitlow · Tue Mar 18, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Now, live from our Lake Minnesota studio, here's the founding editor of Up North News, Pat Breitler.

Pat Kreitlow

Well hey there Wisconsin, good morning.

It is 6.06 on this Tuesday morning, March 18th.

Where are we at here now?

What, nine days until the Brewer's season opener?

It's another beautiful morning to have you here up north.

live from Lake Wissota from wherever you're listening across the Civic Media Radio Network or on the app, watching us on YouTube or Facebook, listening later by podcast.

We appreciate you starting your Tuesday right here and I've got a question for you.

Would your opinion of me change your opinion of Greg, your opinion of the show?

Would it change if we confessed to you that Congressman Derek Van Orden made it clear yesterday that

He doesn't like us.

Will you, will you still be okay with us?

If

Greg Bach

I

Pat Kreitlow

wasn't Greg,

Greg Bach

if I wasn't Greg,

Pat Kreitlow

if you weren't Greg, yes, and you are Greg Bach,

Greg Bach

I am Greg Bach.

Hello, everyone.

Hello.

Hello.

Welcome to the show.

If I wasn't Greg Bach, my love, respect and honor for you would go up 20 fold.

Ooh,

Pat Kreitlow

20-fold.

20-fold.

Yeah.

So we're going to get into that at some point this morning.

Tony's already busy on YouTube going, I hope today is gaslighting free.

Well, you'll have to talk to the Congressman

Greg Bach

about this.

We'll have to consult the dictionary first, get some sources.

Yeah, yeah.

Pat Kreitlow

OK.

The brief thing is yesterday, I mentioned Derek Van Orden trying to gaslight people about, you know, all the cuts that Elon Musk is making haven't done any damage whatsoever.

And I called him out for gaslighting.

And he puts up a post with a full link to the whole clip so everybody can watch the show and watch where we say it.

And then he just puts above that like, you know, you don't even know what gaslighting means.

And he attaches the Merriam-Webster definition of gaslighting and then calls me a clown.

And you look at the definition and I'm going to admit I looked at it.

I'm just like, hmm, am I missing something

Greg Bach

here?

Pat Kreitlow

I'm looking at it going.

Oh my Lord.

He is trying to gaslight people now about the definition of gaslighting.

First guys,

Greg Bach

too much.

First of all, Dairy Vons, I just want to say thank you.

Thank you for the free advertising.

I mean, just a lot of exposure, but second of all, bubble, bubble.

I looked it up in three different dictionaries and GQ and.

Yeah, okay, we'll talk about further later, but just call me Tom because I'm just feeling petty today

Pat Kreitlow

Also coming up on the program today we will talk more about what President Trump and Elon Musk are doing because there's a new analysis out about its impact on individual states and Guess which state is at the top of the list of places that are gonna get hurt

by the retaliatory tariffs that are going to be put in place because these other countries, Canada, China, European Union, they're not doing the across the board tariffs like we're going to do this to all products from the US.

They know, they know how politics works here.

They're targeting specific industries, specific places, swing states, red states and Wisconsin's.

gonna get hit the hardest.

So we will talk a bit about that.

Christina Laurie and Sharita Booker, two of my colleagues at North News will be along talking about things that are in our daily newsletter and some of our more popular social media posts of the past week or so.

So we'll have all of that.

Meteorologist Brittany Merlot will be in with details on a forecast that is looking very sloppy for tomorrow.

for basically the northwestern third of the state.

I mean it's going to be wet everywhere but in terms of snow and apparently heavy wet snow that's looking to fall with a winter storm watch that kicks into place early tomorrow morning.

precipitation starting late tonight.

In fact, I do have Ms.

Morlowe's state forecast here.

Let me pull that up for you please.

Winter Storm Watch early Wednesday morning until late at night for counties north of and including Trempelo, Jackson, Clark, Taylor, Lincoln, Langlade, Forest and Florence.

So again, basically that northwestern third of the state, rain will switch over to snow.

causing some significant accumulations in the north woods.

Power outages are possible.

The forecast for today partly cloudy and mild highs will be in the low forties up north to the low sixties in the south and an east wind at 10 to 15 miles an hour breezy tonight with light rain arriving, mixing the snow overnight lows tonight around 30 up north upper thirties in the south and a northeast wind at 15 to 20 miles an hour.

Bus stop temperatures right now include a wide range 33 in Lake Wasota 23 in Hayward 32 in Amory was at 38

So is Wisconsin Rapids.

La Crosse is 42.

Green Bay 41.

Madison 41.

It's 45 in Milwaukee.

And the warm spot in the state is that radio park in Racine where Greg is.

It's 47 there.

It's 21 up in the superior.

So again, a big range of temperatures before that next weather system moves in here.

Britney's forecast details coming up in just a little bit.

Then we've got our weekday newsletter that Christina Laurie puts together.

You can sign up for it at upnorthnewswi.com.

and she continues to mark Women's History Month with some notable women's centric moments in Wisconsin history.

So again, sign up over at our website and get that Monday through Fridays and then my Wisconsin Politics newsletter on Sunday mornings.

There is a note here in entertainment news about the new things that are streaming this week.

For example, Wicked starts streaming on Peacock on Friday.

Let's see there is also a Nora the best picture winner began streaming yesterday on the Hulu and Sherry and I called up the Hulu last night and we saw the thing for a Nora But that is not what we were there for we we moved right on to what I wanted to ask mr. Bach about and I I did not arrange this at a time So you're getting a cold genuine reaction from him, but the the new stand-up from Bill Burr dropped yesterday

And

Greg Bach

so

Pat Kreitlow

we watched Bill Burr's new routine, The Drop Dead Years.

Greg Bach

Yes.

Pat Kreitlow

And enjoyed it.

And I didn't know if that was something you were looking forward to.

I don't know if you've even met him in your comedy romans, but yes, that was last night's entertainment.

Greg Bach

I have not met him in my comedy romans.

I am like a degree or two away from him.

I've got friends who are friends with him and

I want to look, I want to watch it because I, I feel like he's only gotten better with age.

I feel like his opinions have gotten very interesting.

And,

Kathryn Lake

uh,

Greg Bach

I'm probably going to watch it tonight.

Actually, the Bridget's out of town this evening for a meeting.

So I'm going to sit back with the dog and watch some comedy.

And yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

I just, I love Bill Bernard.

I was not the biggest fan of his back in the day.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah, I haven't always been and he, it feels like he's now finding his groove, which is, which is, and again, take this from my standpoint, you know, as, as a liberal, you look at him going, do you want to be conservative or you are, but you refuse to take yourself seriously.

So you'll grouse about liberals, but you'll also grouse about conservatives.

But I could also see conservatives watching him going, oh, you're just a Hollywood liberal.

You're just trying to

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hide it by

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acting like a conservative.

And the point

My main point being is he takes neither extreme seriously and lampoons it mercilessly so that no matter who you are, you're going to feel uncomfortable a little bit going, hey, wait a minute.

Greg Bach

But I think I think the conversation for me where it gets interesting is because, you know, if you go to if you go to a lot of comedy shows and I personally feel like, you know, like.

The people doing the best we could be considered conservative comedy are liberal women's big liberal because they're consistently bashing the liberal party in a way that's makes sense and To watch him make fun of the make fun of liberal standpoints Liberals be like yes, right?

We go.

Yeah, we do that But conservatives when he makes fun a conservative, you know

Peccadillos and whatnot.

They get like all like Bill Berge.

Like he said, he's a Hollywood elite.

Like, no, man, he's just a guy who stands on stage and makes fun of all of us.

So have a better sense of humor about yourself, man.

Pat Kreitlow

That's the perfect point.

You have to have a better sense of humor about yourself.

And I have seen now, Bill Berge talked about being in his 50s now.

I think he said 54 or something like that.

And

we have seen no shortage of men who have been moderate for most of their lives or apolitical and then they get a little bit older and they, they just veer way off to the, to the right.

And Bill Burr is what I wish a lot of these guys had become instead where it's like, yeah, I definitely think we've gone too far with this PC stuff, but on the other hand, and then he'll rip into, you know, conservative extremism too, you know, and just have this balanced view of, I just don't want.

he does not want to put up with a lot of the things that get people fired up like 24 seven and we've talked about that on this program.

It's okay to care.

It's okay to watch a newscast now and then and to not be completely ignorant to what's going on around you, but also, you know,

If you whip yourself up into a frenzy for things that don't directly involve you, you're going to wear yourself out and not be able to take care of the people who actually need care.

And there are a lot of those folks out there right now.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah.

And Bill Burr is just, you know, he's, he's that splash of cold water saying, look, you know, you're probably okay.

So take it down a notch.

Yeah.

Unless of course,

you're gaslighting a congressman.

Then I mean, you're just a terrible, terrible person.

I mean, I don't feel like we were gaslighting anybody.

I feel like we were just, you know, that's, that's the point.

We weren't he on the other hand.

I mean, he's already forgotten all this by now.

You know how I know this?

Because I counted before the show.

And on Twitter alone, he tweeted 34 times yesterday.

Yeah.

And that wasn't even about us.

I think that was on Facebook.

So he was posting on different posts on Facebook.

Does he not have a job?

Well, I think I think we pay him to do something We pay him very handsome

Greg Bach

other

Pat Kreitlow

than to call people clowns and and to you know again basically Look, he doesn't like the word gaslight lie basically lie about the state of things that are happening right now and not standing up Look, you can agree with President Trump on up on 99 other things But if you are in Derek Van Orden shoes as as a

former Navy SEAL and everything else that you say about the military.

If you can't find some daylight between you and Donald Trump enough to criticize him, not to say, oh, if it's bad, I'll say something.

No, no, no.

Things are bad.

Say it.

Say it, Derek.

Yeah.

Say it.

If there's no daylight between you and Donald Trump on what he's doing to veterans, then it's small wonder that veterans think that you have completely turned your back on them.

Sorry, Congressman.

I know that'll probably draw another post but We get asked by Alicia is Derek van Horten trying to surpass Trump on the number of tweets No, I think Derek actually holds that record Trump will put up, you know a couple of things late at night and you know They're ridiculous like oh all all Joe Biden's pardons are null and void.

No,

Greg Bach

it

Pat Kreitlow

doesn't work like that Derek just it's like good going at the keyboard all the time.

I got I got a

insult this person.

I got to answer that person.

And we, we, this little show here are among his newest friends.

This clown show.

This clown show.

Thank you, Congressman.

We appreciate that.

We will look at more of the news headlines of the day coming up on Up North News Radio for this Tuesday, March 18th.

I'm Pat Crightlow.

Be right back.

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Pat Kreitlow

Now let's visit with Sherita Booker, social media manager here at Up North News.

Sherita, hello.

How are you?

Good.

How are you?

Pat Kreitlow

Good.

Nice to talk to you again.

Been a little bit, so happy to have you back on the show here as we look at some of the posts that you've been working on posting.

That makes sense, the posts you've been posting.

Sure.

That people are commenting about in the comment section.

We're just going to be redundant and repetitive all the way through this segment.

Let's start with one that's several days old now.

But again, we're telling you the ones that get a lot of engagement and Bernie Sanders is always going to get a lot of engagement when he shows up in Wisconsin and talks to some pretty large crowds.

Shreda.

So tell us about the post and reaction

to it.

So Bernie Sanders visited out to recently for his fighting oligarchy tour, which is a resistance to Donald Trump's second presidency.

And there was the crowd of around 2,600 people.

And here's something he told them.

He said, we are here today because under Trump, our nation is facing a series of crises, unprecedented in our modern history.

And what we do now in the coming days, in the coming weeks, and in the coming months will not only impact the lives of our kids, the lives of our grandchildren, and the very well-being of the planet in terms of climate.

If there has ever been a time in modern history of our country to stand up and fight back, now is the time.

And that post had more than 2,000 likes on Facebook.

Audrey said, I was there.

It was incredible.

It's nice seeing a politician who is for the people.

And Peg said, thank you, Bernie.

You are an inspiration and you bring us together and hope that we can save our country for our grandchildren, children and grandchildren, great grandchildren.

You are a blessing.

Pat Kreitlow

And we're not going to of course sugarcoat the fact that there were plenty of comments on there as well from people who are not fans of the Vermont senator So when we say a post gets a lot of engagement it is it isn't all positive not by any stretch of the imagination here But there is no denying the large crowds not only in Altoona, but the night before

in Kenosha as he continues to go into Republican congressional districts, especially since a lot of Republican members of Congress won't do town halls.

So like he said, I came all the way from Vermont to do a town hall because your member of Congress will not.

And so hence the big crowds.

And in a little bit, we'll talk to Christina Laurie about the cutbacks that these Republicans are making and the mental health toll that it's taking on folks as well.

A sad story to talk about next.

And I'm going to have to edit out that cough.

a sad story to talk about next.

And that, of course, is the passing of one of the landmark players in Milwaukee Bucks history, Sherida.

Yeah, so Junior Bridgeman who played 10 seasons with the Bucks in the 70s and 80s passed away last week at the age of 71.

He landed in Milwaukee as part of the landmark.

1975 trait that sent Karim Abdul Jabbar to the Lakers.

And after his MBA career, Bridgman became a business owner and he invested in Chili's and Wendy's.

So he had 450 of those restaurants in 20 different states until 2016.

And that post had a lot of engagement as well.

Daniel said, great six man in hoops, greater man in life.

And then we also had a lot of people commenting RIP.

Pat Kreitlow

Absolutely.

And one here notes, Brian was the name said that Junior was one of his favorites as a fan and as a boy, but was also a big fan of his business acumen once he got older and how he gave back to others.

And I never get tired of these posts because again, people will spend their money however they wish.

Some people have

more money than anyone else and could probably fund a cure for cancer if they want to.

And instead, they're tearing down the federal government.

Others like Junior Bridgeman consistently gave back to others from his wealth.

And it's one of the many reasons why he is so highly regarded in Louisville and in Milwaukee as well, where he owned a 10%

share of the Milwaukee Bucks before his passing.

Let's send on a lighter note and my goodness last year we talked so much about Top Chef and of course it was you know because Chef Dan Jacobs was part of the show and you know it wasn't it was

Uh, you know, it kind of atypical to have a Wisconsin chef on there.

The show was being held in Milwaukee that year.

Uh, this next time around, it's going to be up in Canada, but there's still going to be a bit of a local tie.

Sure.

Yeah.

Yep.

So we have Kat Turner now who grew up in Sturgeon Bay and went to Marquette University and she's competing as one of the 15 top chefs battling it out for season 22, which you said is in Canada.

And if she wins, she takes home a prize of $500,000.

Kat comes from a well-known Wisconsin family.

Her grandpa, Patrick E. Hagerty, co-founded Texas Instruments and also owned Palmer Johnson Yachts.

And if you've ever been to Marquette's Hagerty Museum of Art, yeah, that's named after her grandparents.

And Top Chef premiered on March 13, and you can catch it on Thursdays on Bravo or the following day on Peacock.

And in the comments, Jenny fights said, this is so exciting.

I actually coached Catherine back in the 80s while she was on the swim team in Sturgeon Bay.

I adored her mom and her grandmother.

Best wishes, Kat.

And we also had many other comments wishing her the best of luck.

Pat Kreitlow

And it looks like she, uh, she, she was fine.

She was not eliminated in the first round.

The second episode, uh, airs day after tomorrow and then they will air consecutively for at least the next few weeks here on March 27th and April 3rd and April 10th.

And we wish her all the best and getting through that.

Uh, I'm sure Sharita Booker will see more posts about top chef and about cat Turner as we move through the, the coming weeks here, find everything she's doing over at up front news W.

W I dot com and up north news W I on all the favorite social platforms.

Sharita.

Great to talk to you.

Have a great day.

You too.

Spoiler alert.

Pat didn't edit out that cough.

Oh, well, not everything on the to do list gets done right away.

There are 49 other states that are going to be impacted less than Wisconsin by Donald Trump's trade wars.

You can find that story.

at our website up North News W I dot com where I write up the results of an analysis by the New York Times that looks at the retaliatory tariffs coming from Canada, China, the European Union, all designed to hit specific industries and basically specific swing states in the country.

When you look at those industries that are going to be impacted by retaliatory tariffs, and you look at the number of jobs, the share of the workforce in each state affected by that,

The other 49 states will have anywhere from one to 8% of their labor force working in industries that are getting hit by retaliatory tariffs.

In Wisconsin, it's nearly 10%.

And if you look at the map, I mean, you've got all these red counties, Price County, 20% of the workforce is going to be impacted, Sheboygan County, 23%.

In Taylor County, 25%.

In Trump Below County, 30% of the jobs impacted by these retaliatory tariffs.

And we'll see if Trump holds on to his support in those areas when the rubber hits the road.

Christina Laurie's next, you're up north.

Hey, welcome back on this Tuesday morning.

It is time for the uplift our weekly visit with Cristina Laurie, who puts together our daily newsletter and so many of the stories you see on social media about life in Wisconsin, people helping people, sports, food, you name it.

Cristina, good morning.

Can I assume you did not go out on a Monday night for St.

Patrick's Day?

you know, I had never done that in my life before and I figured why start now?

Pat Kreitlow

Never?

I just thought that was like a rite of passage in Chicago that everybody had to go out for for St.

Paddy's.

No, I have seen the Green River though.

Have you?

Pat Kreitlow

Uh just just video not not in person.

I have a

I have a tough time believing that that can actually be done safely.

So it always makes me a little squeamish, not squeamish, but uncomfortable to see it.

But you're, you're the one that lived there.

So maybe you have more faith in the green dye than I do.

Yeah.

Or maybe I'm more gullible, but I believe all the stories that, you know, it was kind of the routine story where they talk about how they use environmentally friendly dye.

That is completely safe.

And, you know, Lake Michigan, I don't think that they would want to mess with the drinking water because the Chicago River does flow into Lake Michigan, which has notoriously clean water.

So I just, I'm choosing to believe them.

Pat Kreitlow

You know, same here.

I just, I just, it still feels a little

awkward.

It does look, it does look weird, but I, I would just be, here's my thing.

Oh, I bet about a lot of people in Wisconsin drank green beer last night.

if you drink green beer and we're an anti COVID vaxer, you just need, you have some soul searching to do because one is CDC approved and one is definitely not.

So the argument does not hold any water.

Pat Kreitlow

That is a very good point.

And, and it reminds me that, uh, boy, hard to believe we're at the five year anniversary, but it was St.

Patrick's Day.

in 2020.

A lot of folks were getting set to go out for the night and that's when the order came down to shut it down that COVID had come to Wisconsin and had come in such a number that it was the beginning of shutting things down, bars, restaurants, so many things.

Now obviously hindsight is 2020 so we're not we're not going to you know judge these things we're just simply talking about the memories

of that week back in 2020 when, I mean, Christina, you never knew this.

Up North News actually had a newsroom in Madison before we became, you know, an all work from home company because of COVID.

What do you remember about, you know, those days when COVID really first came on the scene?

The day before the world shut down.

my uncle and my grandpa just they my uncle was visiting a customer and my grandpa went with for a road trip.

So they took me out to a restaurant and that was the last restaurant that I set foot in for the next two years.

Pat Kreitlow

Just crazy.

I mean just such such a time and and let's not not forget what a scary time it was.

But again, all these years later.

you know, we've we've made a lot of progress.

We lost a lot of people.

But we made progress to the point where I'm sure a lot of people went out and had a good time last night.

Let's let's talk for a moment here about of the many stories that you've worked on.

There was one that certainly made a connection with me and it was about ways that people had been showing their support for Ukraine.

And I hold up for the for the social media camera here.

Mike, my candle from the door

County candle company with the blue and yellow or blue and gold colors of the flag of Ukraine.

But Christina, just when I first heard from you about that way to show your support for Ukraine, but of course I couldn't.

just stop there.

So I also have from Door County their warm apple pie candle and I have here one called Summer Rain and this is my public service announcement.

You should not have three very different candles open all at once because it's it's a it's very fragrant in here right now in a very mixed way.

I should have just stuck with the Ukrainian one as as one small way to show support Christina.

I was going to say, how big is your house?

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah.

Well, these are just small candles, but I've got them all right here by my keyboard, and I'm quickly capping them again because, again, three at once, a little too much.

You're going to start smelling like the inky candle store.

That's right.

You're going to get knocked out.

Yeah.

But if anybody is in the market for a candle, it does not sound like you are any more cat, but you can order from Door County Candle Company.

They ship everywhere.

And the owner is from Ukraine.

Her name is Kristiana.

She's owned the candle company for almost a decade now.

And so when this...

War started now three years ago.

She decided that she wanted to do whatever she could in her small capacity to raise some money for families living back in Ukraine since she was born there and had family members still there So she decided to start selling 16 ounce vanilla scented blue and yellow candles like the one you just held up

to raise money for, raise them for Ukraine.

It's a nonprofit that provides on the ground support for families affected.

So to be clear, this money is not going to war efforts.

It's going to peace efforts to try to keep these innocent people safe, make sure they have enough food, make sure they have access to the healthcare that they need and survive.

They didn't ask for this.

So her initial goal was just to sell 30 and $10, all of the proceeds.

It takes $20, fun fact, to make one of those candles.

$10 proceeds, all of that goes to charity.

And over the past three years, she's raised more than $1 million.

What?

She's not slowing down anytime soon, just from candles.

It's absolutely incredible.

And the even more impressive part about this is that her company now has a $10 million goal over the next 10 years.

So they want to continue on the pace of $1 million a year.

And now they're not just raising money for Ukraine, although that is kind of the most pressing issue right now, of course.

They've also made a special edition candle for the wildfire victims in Los Angeles.

They've sent money to the fire that happened a few years back in Hawaii.

That was absolutely devastating.

They raise it for a bunch of different causes.

They have a powerful candle that's for cancer research.

So they have, if you go visit their website, they have an entire line of what they're calling fundraising candles and you can find them all there.

It just is a great way to do multiple good things.

Support a local Wisconsin business, someone who's personally going through a really tough time having family in Ukraine and then obviously supporting the victims of a war that they didn't ask for or want to be a part of.

Pat Kreitlow

I mean this is just really something and to hear that that's the the dollar amount and you just never know where this kind of help

will come from, you know, customers to a candle store.

And I was, you know, this was last year sometime when I was there.

And it's a lovely shop, just such a wide variety of products out there.

Except I'm only now realizing, Christina, that every one of them has kind of a cork lid on top.

And on each one is it's kind of looks like it's a little it's got a smear of some sort on there.

And I thought maybe it was candle wax, I thought maybe it was part of the the candle making

process and they just, you know, put a little candle wax on top or something.

I don't know.

It now occurs to me, I'm looking at, they're all the same.

It's the outline of Dora County.

Just the little finger Peninsula sticking out on top of that.

So I feel smarter But wouldn't have done that if I didn't have these three candles lined up right in front of me Making things as aromatic as they've ever been in this

office.

So that's really funny and this is a complete tangent But that reminds me of remember back in the day when ripped jeans first got on the scene.

Yes I didn't get the memo and I was shopping and I was shopping with my grandma and we were looking for just regular jeans and she was like

holding them up and going, it's so weird.

They're all ripped.

Did they know this?

We're all ripped in the same place.

Pat Kreitlow

And I remember, you know, the first time they said, Oh, no, they're distressed.

They're distressed genes.

And I mean, I just laughed it off.

And what was it last year sometime for the first time ever?

I bought a pair of distressed jeans because I happened to like the way that they look, but there's always a part of me that imagines, yes, that my grandmother is seeing me in those jeans and going, oh, Patrick, oh, Patrick, how could you do that?

Because they used to patch up our jeans when they'd rip.

Now it's like, nope, you don't, you don't patch them.

They're distressed.

It's how they're supposed to look.

Of all the many things that have been going on lately, especially with the new administration here, there's been a lot of

um well battles here nothing nothing like what's going on in in ukraine but gosh

Sometimes it feels like there's a political war going on here and that a lot of people are caught in the middle.

These cuts that have been made have been pointed out by many folks, not the least among them, Senator Tammy Baldwin, talking about how the 988 Veterans Crisis Line, how employees there faced not knowing if they'd be able to keep the line staffed.

This has really taken a toll on a lot of people what the president and what his co-president have been putting the country through.

You're absolutely right.

And the biggest issue is that it's not even just that the cuts are happening, it's how they are happening.

It doesn't have to be done this way.

Nobody's arguing that there isn't bloat within the federal government and we need to cut some

Kathryn Lake

of

these jobs.

But there's no reason that you need to give employees at USAID, for example, only 15 minutes notice that they're fired and then they have to go back in and get all their stuff.

That happened last week.

And then, luckily, my job here is always to look for the good.

The positive of this was that a bunch of strangers lined up outside USAID headquarters with signs saying, thank you.

You

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didn't

deserve this.

We appreciate you.

And that's great.

But I think it's also important to take a step back and just realize the ripple effects that this is going to have for a long time.

When people lose their job, their odds of dying by suicide increase by more than five times.

I mean we're already seeing it happening unfortunately across the country.

Yes.

And I'm getting a lot of messages from federal workers who are working remotely or have been here in Wisconsin who were laid off and they're just really they're looking for any sort of work.

They didn't deserve to be laid off and it's just so chaotic and terrible the way that it's happening.

Pat Kreitlow

Right.

I mean, these are people who quite literally have been serving their country and being unceremoniously dumped by somebody that arguably is not currently serving the country.

So many people here thought well, okay if we're gonna go after Access spending there are ways to go about doing it, but there are others who say well We've just got to tear it all down and you know so so what if all these people get fired?

Well, it does have an impact it has a real human toll that it's taking and You know it puts a challenge on the rest of us to try not to exacerbate it too much to try to be there for each other

because what do we always say, Christina?

You never really know what somebody else is going through.

Yes, to quote my favorite novel, Tequila Mockingbird, Atticus.

You never really know someone until you climb into their skin and walk around for a little bit.

And I really think that's at the crux of all of this.

The thing that I found most disappointing, and this isn't just in this instance of firing workers.

It's really, I think the reason that the entire MAGA movement took off is that there's a giant section of people that think that if life was hard for them,

it should be hard for others as well.

So, you know, if they had to do things a certain way, they couldn't work from home up until five years ago.

Nobody should be able to work from home.

If they had to go through the immigration process the long and tedious way, it should be long and tedious for no reason, for absolutely everyone else.

And I'm from a different school of belief that I would like to make the world an easier, better place.

for future generations.

So if something was hard for me, I'd love to see it be easier for someone else.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah.

And I think that's a very healthy change of mindset, but one that clearly is working up a lot of resistance.

Well, as we all look out for one another, one of the things that's going to help

is the coming of spring, first day of spring.

It's coming up here in just a few days.

And then the Brewer's season opener later next week.

I mean, we're only nine days away now from the Brewer's season opener.

I suppose we're going to have to talk about the White Sox as well once this gets going.

I don't know.

It's a touchy subject, Pat.

I'm going all in on my Brewer's fan.

I was

Pat Kreitlow

going to say, we may have finally lured her over, folks.

We may finally be there.

Christina Laurie.

Thank you so much.

We will be there if necessary for the for the bonfire of the White Sox swag and get you all decked out in new brewer's gear, but we'll we'll cross that bridge once the season starts next week.

Have a great

day.

Well, you know, I do have a Jose Quintana vintage White Sox bobblehead.

I could just put a little I could put a little brewer's cap on him

Pat Kreitlow

now.

Actually, you really should.

That's going to make a great social media post.

That sounds perfect.

Thank you, Christina.

Talk to you later.

Bye, Pat.

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When we come back, Dan Hagen from NewsWatch12 should be along for today's history lesson next year up north.

Kathryn Lake

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Pat Kreitlow

This would be Wilson Pickett.

Born this day in 1941, passed away in 2006, within the midnight hour, kicking off today's history lesson for this March 18th.

Also kicking off the history lesson, Daniel Hagen from WJFW, News Watch 12th and Rhinelander, and this email, Hi Pat, was thinking I could still make it to the show, but the Wi-Fi on this island just isn't stable enough.

See you next week, Dan.

I checked the weather on his island.

76 right now on the way to 86.

Dan, I'm heartbroken for you, buddy.

Oh, wait, the Wi-Fi is too unstable for him to listen over the app as well.

So he's not hearing this, so.

But we'll see him next week.

Greg Bach

I knew we couldn't trust Dan Hagen of Channel 1213.

12.

I was 13.

Pat Kreitlow

13.

Yeah, take it.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah.

No, Dan, have a great time, safe travels, and we will see you again soon.

Last week we had the birthday for Jerry of Ben and Jerry's.

Today it's Ben.

Ben Cohen is 74 years old.

Well, they were childhood friends.

I suppose they were in that same age range.

Irene Carroll was born this day in 1959.

Irene Cara, who I had this from fame and also, of course, Flashdance, the theme from that, passed away in 2022.

The late Charlie Pride was born this day in 1934.

I

Greg Bach

love this song.

I love Charlie Pride.

I miss him every day.

Pat Kreitlow

Charlie passed away in 2020.

He was born on a cotton farm in Sledge, Mississippi

Greg Bach

Yep,

Pat Kreitlow

and had multiple country shot shirt toppers including the kiss and angel.

Good morning Bonnie Blair the pride of West Alice is 61 today five gold medals three world titles in speed skating

Greg Bach

What are you doing today?

Pat Kreitlow

Yeah

Not that happy birthday Bonnie Blair.

Happy birthday to Vanessa Williams the singer and former Miss America is 62 years old today

Greg Bach

God I haven't heard this song in a long

Pat Kreitlow

time You know that you got a love when little kids can't quite get a word quite right and it's just adorable Yes, like you know some

One of my daughters, a grilled cheese sandwich, was like a girl cheese sandwich.

Nail polish was Paul Nail-ish.

I had a nephew who loved this movie, but all the time was saying, play Pocahontas, instead of Pocahontas.

So singing from Pocahontas is Vanessa Williams 62 today, Queen Latifah.

Born Dana Owens in Newark, New Jersey is 55 today.

Maroon 5 singer Adam Levine is 46 today.

This is an international Teach Music Week.

Trying to figure if I guess if he's he's on the voice and he kind of does a little music mentoring so I guess that applies to him.

The number one song this day in 1967

was by the Beatles.

I love this song.

I do too.

Any reason to play it works.

Let's see.

On this day in 1978, the number one song was Night Fever by the Bee Gees and it stayed in the number one slot for eight weeks, becoming the longest running number one song of 1978.

Let's see, there were more national weeks I missed yesterday.

This is National Fragrance Week, which I believe I properly celebrated in that last segment having three candles open at once.

Do not recommend it.

Happy introverts day, all you introverts, run out into the street and celebrate.

They won't, trust me.

This is Pediatric Nurse Practitioners Day.

This is Biodiesel Day.

And that was something I'd worked on in the legislature.

There was, you know, how do biodiesel can be made here in Wisconsin rather easily.

And it was just fun watching the science grow on these things, watching the research that is done here.

Again, not to get too editorial in the history segment, but when you see funds cut for research for things that could actually increase our energy independence, it's just a real shame.

Uh, today is forgive mom and dad day.

Today is national agriculture day.

Greg Bach

Nice

Pat Kreitlow

farmers.

Global recycling day.

This is national sloppy Joe day.

So do you have, do you have anything special that has to happen with your sloppy Joe's?

I mean, for some folks, it's just, you know, ground beef and maybe some, uh, chopped up onions and, you know, either tomato soup or tomato paste or something.

Greg Bach

Uh, to be on pace, I also like to throw a little seasoning in there, just a little more seasoning.

And then I make sure I don't use the typical hamburger bun.

I'll use maybe like a thicker one and then I'll scoop it out.

So that way the, uh, sloppy won't get so sloppy and still a little carrying case.

Pat Kreitlow

Yes.

Uh, it's world social work day and it is transit driver appreciation today.

Let me do that again.

Transit driver appreciation day today.

Kathryn Lake

So when you get

Pat Kreitlow

on the bus today, say thank you to that transit driver

Greg Bach

for

Pat Kreitlow

taking care of that.

Alicia notes, what have I done today?

I've cleaned eight bathrooms so far today.

And about introverts day, she says, nope, it's this introverts day to recover from all the people I did yesterday.

That makes sense.

Greg Bach

Especially

Pat Kreitlow

you didn't people.

No, you probably didn't.

Greg Bach

We just sit here.

I'm an introvert myself.

I know it sounds weird to say, but I don't people.

I'm not a people.

I'm people when I need to people and then I'm home.

I love being home.

Pat Kreitlow

I don't know.

I'm sure I'm missing the proper word to describe me.

I'm not an extrovert.

I'm very much an introvert until I get to know you.

As soon as I know somebody, I'm like, oh, very outgoing, but.

It's that first step of meeting

Kathryn Lake

somebody

Pat Kreitlow

new where I am like as introverted as it gets.

What's the word?

Weird.

I think the word is just that we're looking for.

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