We’re Not That Bouncy Anymore (Hour 2)

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Welcome very much.

We're very, very excited to have you here.

And yeah, we have an excellent, excellent show for you today.

We've got a lot coming up.

It is Monday, December 22nd, actually, the 22nd.

We got three days until Christmas.

And do you got your Christmas shopping done?

Calvin, do you have your Christmas shopping done?

Is it all finished?

It is finished.

I still have fingers crossed on a couple Amazon packages that are supposed to get here today, but we'll

see.

You're feverishly checking your delivery schedule on your phone?

Yes.

All right.

Well, I'm, I am but one gift card away, but I'm going to buy that on the morning of because it delivers directly to the email.

And I don't trust it ever because I've sent a lot of gift cards that are supposed to be on Christmas morning and I get something around the 21st saying, Oh, thank you for the early Christmas present.

And I say,

Well, that didn't go the way I wanted it to go.

So we got a great show coming up for you.

Coming up after the 930 news, we have Dr. Chris Cronich, which I had to look up.

I want to make sure I say that correctly, but I will confirm with the good doctor.

It's either Cyrnik or Cronich.

He is going to be here.

He is a doctor of infectious disease from the Department of Medicine at UWM.

He is going to be our guest here today.

We'll be talking about what does it take to basically

actually, yes, the department of medicine of UW Madison.

What do we need to do to keep ourselves safe and healthy during these wintery months, during the cold months?

We'll probably be talking about vaccinations.

Make sure you are up to speed on that.

It's going to be a great conversation.

I'm very much looking forward to talking to the good doctor.

And then after the top of the hour news in this, in the second hour at 1006, we're going to be talking to Adam Hess.

He is my colleague here at civic media and we're going to be talking about things going on in Richland center.

We're going to be talking about his shows.

We can wake up and prime movers on Saturdays talking about W R C O and W R C E. He is the director of technology at Southwest Wisconsin school district.

We are going to be talking about a lot.

There's a lot to discuss with Adam.

So that's going to be coming up in the second hour after the top of the top of the hour news break.

And then at 10 35, of course,

We got to take a step back.

We got to relax.

We got to have some fun.

It's time for audio Sorbet and we're going to be talking about the worst Christmas movies.

If you have some thoughts on this, please text or email or drop a comment in the live stream.

Let us know what are your, what are the worst Christmas movies ever?

And we're not going to get into the diehard debate because it's not a debate.

If you don't think it's a Christmas movie, you've lost, but

We're going to be talking about the worst Christmas movies at 10 30 or I'll even change it a little bit.

What are the worst Christmas movies that you love?

So there's something that people are like, Oh, I can't stand this movie.

But you're like, I kind of like this movie.

And I think it's a great Christmas movie.

I want to hear from you.

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And then finally, we're going to be wrapping everything up with a bow.

See what I did there, Calvin.

We're going to wrap it up with a bow with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it is Santa's on the naughty list edition.

So don't go anywhere.

Lots going on.

And something I wanted to do today is, first of all, Calvin, how are you doing today?

I guess you've got Christmas presents, but how was your weekend?

It was all right, Greg.

How about you?

It was good.

It was a lot going on.

I had to use power tools and I'm not saying that to sound manly.

I'm saying it because after sometimes a use of power tools, you then get sore and I'm very sore in my shoulders because it was not only using the power tools, but using the power tools at a high angle with my arms.

So it was just a lot of movement and now my shoulders have been worked out for I think 2026.

I don't have to go to the gym at all.

Is that sound cool by you?

Yeah.

I mean, I wasn't planning on going to the gym.

There you

go.

There you go.

Well, I'm glad you had a good week on my friend.

And what I want to do is, uh, we're going to do something just a little different today.

And also really quick at nine, uh, 20, we're going to be talking about the stoppage of an American standard.

And when it comes to, uh, uh, alcoholic beverages, a company has decided to stop production of a very famous alcohol.

And I want to talk about that because it is affected by, you guessed it.

It's tariffs.

And maybe we'll even, uh, we'll bring back James Vanderloo to talk about, uh, give an update on tariffs and what it's, what it means for Wisconsin right now and Wisconsin businesses, but that's coming up after the break.

But right now we're going to talk about some bills.

Calvin, you know, the old, did you do schoolhouse rock?

Did you ever watch that as a kid?

Is that something that was in your life at all?

I will say I have seen it many times.

Clips on, on the internet.

No,

I will, I,

Heard about or I first was shown it in probably like sophomore year of high school history class It was never presented to me as like a child.

It was always like I was I was a

older in my education, but the first time I heard I'm just a bill.

Hey, there you go.

Well, you still heard it, and that's important.

And I just wanted to go over a few things here.

They're going through the assembly, things that are coming through the Congress as well, because I think we should be informed.

They're the bills that affect us and can have effects on us.

And just going over a few things just so you're aware, if there's anything coming up that you know about, that you want us to cover and talk about, that you think affects either your community or the state, feel free to email it to us.

Jane says at civicmedia.us that email is still good.

You can get ahold of us.

You can send thoughts on stories, thoughts on guests, tisbat suggestions, but

If there's a bill in Madison that you feel like we should talk about, send it to us and we will take a look and possibly discuss it on the show.

And I just want to talk about a couple of things here.

First of all, assembly bill 397.

It is an act to amend some related language.

Basically what it's saying is that if you go through the Wisconsin economic development corporation, which is our state's economic development arm, used to be the department of commerce until Scott Walker collapsed that department and turned it into the WEDC.

Wisconsin economic development corporation, basically saying it's a, if you get a loan of at least $100,000 from that group, from this state sponsored group, you must show audited expenditures.

Now I know that may be like big deal.

Who cares?

I think it is because last week I feel like Calvin, one of the major things that we talked about was transparency.

And when a Wisconsin entity, something has to do with the state, something that's, you know, we, that is

state adjacent.

Cause it is actually, I believe a private corporation, but we still have our hand in it.

When they're getting the money from us, I believe there's transparency.

If we're talking about data center transparency, we should be talking about all transparency as far as businesses getting money from them.

What are they going to be doing?

How are they going to lay it out?

How is it going to affect us?

It's always going to be for me, Calvin.

How do these steps affect us?

So that is going, that is being put through.

There was a hearing held last week and it's moving forward apparently.

And it's just basically what we want to do to keep you informed of what's going on.

Another one going through.

This one's interesting, Calvin.

And I have you ever, do you know if you've ever eaten

lab grown meat.

You got to look on your face like good Lord.

No, because you live out in Eagle.

I don't think they have any lab grown meat out there.

And that's not to say make fun of you.

It's because all meat there is real.

Well, I mean, I guess I will say I've never knowingly eaten crab.

Well, I'm glad you have grown meat.

Brought that up.

Assembly Bill 554, Calvin says that any bill, I'm sorry, that any meat that is grown in a lab use cultured animal cells.

cultured animal tissue derived from cultured animal cells, quote, lab grown meat must have the phrase on the packaging.

So people understand.

I feel like you have to do that too.

When something's vegetarian and vegan, because that anytime you have taken vegan or vegetarian, quote, meat to a party, my friends freak out because they think that it's going to make them, you know, not cool, essentially because.

I eat vegetarian or vegan meat.

But the point is, if you're going to be, if there's going to be lab grown meat in our grocery stores, I'm assuming because there might be people, one, who don't want to eat that meat.

And two, if vegans see that, they're not going to eat it as well.

It's just a way of, of marking that off.

But I didn't realize this was growing in such popularity that we actually needed legislation.

A lot of this came from, I believe a lot of Republicans here, NAS, Mark line, Spritzer, but it's, that is,

From what I understand here, there was a hearing, there was executive action taken last week as well.

So it looks like that's moving forward too.

One thing that really caught my eye as well, Calvin, is the Pet and Livestock Protection Act.

It is...

going through the Congress right now, this is something that Tom Tiffany took up earlier this year where it's basically, it seeks to return the management of gray wolves and wolves in general to the States.

The thing that gives me pause on this one, and that's not a pun because we're talking about wolves, is that it seeks, this is what it says, it blocks activist judges from overturning the delisting through law fair.

So that's a lot of talking point language instead of just being very, like the last two things I read,

pretty boring straight ahead language in its presentation.

This is trying to, I think, stoke some fires, if you ask me, Cal, because it is very much understood that the gray wolf population has been growing at an exponential rate, very, very good exponential rate.

And that's wonderful.

But

what they want to do is take it off the endangered species list because of that, because they say, well, now people can hunt if they want to.

Well, I don't know, Calvin, I don't know about that.

I don't know how you feel about that.

I feel like doing that right now might be a bad idea because in the prep I was given earlier, it showed that when those animals are able to be hunted, they're hunted in droves in dozens are killed.

And that is, I think a problem.

And I think that the way that they're passing off this,

is making it seem like, well, if the states can't have the power to do this, then it's the activist judges.

I want people, I guess, if you live in Western Wisconsin where there are more gray wolves, I would love to get your opinion on this.

Do you believe this is something that should happen?

Should we be taking the gray wolves off the endangered species list yet?

Do you know people who want to hunt them?

I would like to know that from you.

And then finally, the last one I want to talk about too, this is bill 523.

This is something that I didn't actually know was a problem until it came in front of me.

It was executive action has been taken on a bill that would basically make it illegal to sell counterfeit airbags, which I didn't know was a thing.

And it apparently it is because in Raleigh, North Carolina, a man was sentenced for selling counterfeit airbags on Facebook marketplace.

Apparently this is a bigger deal than we expected.

And I guess that's the thing is like, what we're telling you is that if you, if you need to do something with your car like this, it's important to make sure that you're not buying, I guess, Calvin, would you ever buy an airbag on Facebook marketplace?

I don't know what purpose you would have for it.

Like if your airbag deploys the cars, probably totaled.

fuel.

So what is a replacement airbag really getting you?

Well, no, there's, there's replacement airbags, which need to happen after if your car can be, because sometimes those airbags go off and they don't have to be total.

They'll just go, they can go off for various reasons, but people sell

bad bags that when they're installed, they just don't go off.

So you have no safety in front of you at all.

So I think that's the bigger question.

I didn't realize that counterfeit bags were actually a thing that were a problem.

And I didn't understand that people were buying them on Facebook marketplace, which I won't buy.

I wouldn't buy a chair on Facebook marketplace.

I'm not buying an airbag, but we're going to keep the conversation going to, uh, after we come back from some snacks and we're going to talk about a major

major brand of bourbon that is going to stop production in Kentucky next year because of tariffs.

Yeah.

The tariffs is not going away.

Terrace affect us.

And we're going to talk more about that on the other side.

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Essentially, I'm buying you a hug.

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We're friends.

That's my friend Esther Flonase award winning Esther Flonase.

We'll probably have her back on the show to talk about drag bingo, drag culture and being a drag artist in America in 2025 into 2026.

But we'll talk more with her about that on another show.

wanted to discuss this really quick because, you know, something that's not going away is the discussion on tariffs.

We've seen a lot of, we've seen a lot of consternation back and forth with various groups, companies and, you know, political leaders saying that the tariffs are great.

The tariffs are wonderful.

The tariffs are providing so much money, but unfortunately there isn't a lot of proof to that.

And another story that came out this morning that shows

What they are doing to this country is here's the this is the this is the headline from the the Guardian and Lauren Almeida has the byline says bourbon maker Jim Beam stops production at Kentucky site for 2026 the whiskey brand owned by Japanese drinks group Suntory to close main distillery among amid tariff uncertainty and

I think Calvin, that's a pretty big deal.

When Jim Beam is shutting down for the year next year, I think that's a very telling matter.

I don't know, you know, you're not a big drinker.

I don't think you drink whiskey, but this is going to be big for people who enjoy this whiskey.

That's huge news.

Yeah.

I mean, this is pretty shocking to me.

And, you know, Jim Beam and Coke is my dad's drink of choice.

Yeah.

I mean,

yeah, I'm going to have to pile up, get a stock off.

I think you know what to get him for Christmas.

It's like 12 bottles.

That's, uh, that's, that's one for every day of Christmas.

Uh, it says the maker of Jim beam bourbon whiskey will halt production at its main site in Kentucky for all of 2026.

The company said in a statement that it would close its distillery in Claremont until it took the look, a look at quote opportunity to invest in site enhancements, which

Look, I'm, I'm, I know corporate speak enough to know that basically we can, we can make it smaller, get rid of people and, you know, increase our bottom line.

That's, I think what's going to happen or take the production somewhere else where it's cheaper.

We are also assessing production levels to best meet our consumer demands.

And recently met with our team to discuss our volumes for 2026.

So basically, and it says here, the, it comes as whiskey distillers in the U S face uncertainty around Donald Trump's

trade tariffs, as well as declining rates of alcohol consumption here in this country, which is actually something we discussed a couple of weeks ago with Aaron Kelly is that we are not drinking as much.

There is still a conversation to be had about binge drinking, especially in the state of Wisconsin, but people are looking either not drinking at all or seeking other ways to take maybe

Enjoy the evening, whether it's a tea THC product a CBD product something like that But people just aren't drinking as much nationwide and that is having an effect But the trick the tariffs itself is what's hurting that industry overall as well And it said in October the Kentucky distillers Association said there was a record amount of bourbon and warehouses across the state in Kentucky and more than 16 million barrels They faced

$75 million in taxes on their inventory this year and the state charges tax on, as the state charges tax on aging barrels of spirits.

So they're paying, whether they're having to pay whether they make or not.

So if they don't make, they have to pay on those barrels.

They need to sell those barrels.

Then that's why they're not, they're not making anymore because it's not worth it.

And that's what we're going to see.

And maybe even seeing like the Jim beam labels sold off.

as you've seen other labels before, but this is just another example of the tariffs and what they do to this country and to our consumers, to our small business owners, to our, I mean, Suntory is not a small business by any stretch of the imagination.

It's a global company from Japan, and it's affecting them as well.

It's affected our coffee, it's affected our farmers, and

It just keeps this conversation in the mix because we can't forget about the fact that we're seeing our prices go up at your kitchen table.

You're looking at your receipts.

You're looking at your Christmas presents.

You're looking at your kids education.

You're looking at how much it costs for healthcare.

All of this works into it.

And it all goes back to the fact that we have a bill in a budget that passed this year that is going to decimate

our social safety net, pass that money to billionaires.

The tariffs are not making the money that it said they would.

We're going to bring James Vanderloo back on the show and he is going to talk.

He has talked at length honestly about what the tariffs are doing to affect our business owners here in Milwaukee in Wisconsin.

But I just wanted to bring that up to you because I feel like that's a very, Calvin, I don't know about you, but I feel like that's a very

To the point example, the fact that Jim Beam is not going to produce any alcohol in America next year in Kentucky, that is something we need to have as a part of the conversation, especially when we talk about tariffs.

So I just wanted to bring that up to you.

What does that mean for you?

And again, I always ask the question, how do you see the tariffs or just the price of things affecting your family's economy?

You can always send that into us.

You can always let us know because we want you to tell us what's going on in your world so we can better have that conversation to talk to the people who affect our lives.

Speaking of conversations, he has entered the chat.

We're going to talk to him in a moment and I'm going to say his name and I'm going to ask for him to either shake his head or not his head, Dr. Chris Cronich.

is going to be, nope, I got it wrong.

He said no.

All right.

I tried.

We're going to be, well, we'll be talking to the good doctor in a little bit after the nine 30 break.

We're going to be talking about, uh, how to stay healthy vaccinations.

He is an infectious infectious disease professor at the department of medicine at UW Madison.

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getting our civic media family in on the show so you can get to meet them and see what they're talking about because as we said, it all comes across and we all are connected that way here in Wisconsin.

That's coming up at the beginning of the second hour.

And then of course we have audio sore Bay.

We're talking about the worst Christmas movies, even if it's a Christmas movie you love, if you are willing and able to recognize that the Christmas movie you love is terrible.

I love that, but you're going to want to talk to us about that.

If you want to drop it in the live stream, my friend Esther Flonase has already done that.

We'll talk about that more in a bit, but that's what we're going to be doing during audio sorbet.

And then finally to wrap up the show, it's going to be, this shouldn't be a thing.

Santa is on the naughty list question mark edition.

So don't go anywhere.

We have lots of great shows still ahead for you right here on matinee or on air, but we're going to talk to our guest right now.

Our guest is a professional professor of infectious disease.

at the Department of Medicine at the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health, talking about how to stay safe and healthy in the winter months.

Our guest today is Dr. Chris Siernich.

There we did.

I got it right.

Boom.

Good morning, doctor.

How are you today?

And if you listen to the live stream show folks, that's what we call the secret show between the commercials.

Apparently I was not one of

two people who, oh, no, I was this, I would have been the second person who would have pronounced his name correctly.

Cause Tucker and I were going back and forth and we just like Cyrnik, right?

And then I doubted myself and I went way over my skis.

It's Dr. Chris Cyrnich.

We're really happy to have you here today.

I hope you're having a wonderful morning.

Appreciate your time.

Uh, I was just going to kick it off very simple.

And to the point we're coming up to, honestly, I would say meteorology meteorology wise, a very unpredictable winter so far.

We've had a lot of

snow, a lot of cold.

And now we're getting a lot of warmth.

What do folks need to do right now in these cold areas to really keep themselves healthy where one day you're like, I got to bundle up.

And the other day is like, I might bust out shorts.

Well,

and that's something too is I feel, you know, in

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I am not a doctor.

I'm merely a guy who's talking to a doctor.

As we say, I'm doctor adjacent.

And I feel especially in the wake of COVID where we were so very much on the ball of like, I gotta like, I gotta test myself.

Am I having these symptoms?

That's really much fallen off as far as where we're staying aware with ourselves on what symptoms we may have.

And I feel like it's almost

COVID still a thing.

And I'm not, I'm not denying that, but I feel like it's almost pushed down the severity of the importance of respiratory problems and colds and flu, where we say, well, it's not COVID.

So I'm fine.

And then they go out in the world, they interact, they go to work.

And I guess what I'm asking is what should people who want to stay vigilant on their health be looking for instead of like, you know, those symptoms that make them say, all right, I got to test for COVID.

I got to go to the doctor because instead of just quote unquote,

Toughing it out.

Yes.

Well,

first, what I want to do is, if you're just joining us on Matt Naranair, we are speaking with Dr. Chris Cernich.

He is an infectious disease physician.

He is also a professor at the University of Wisconsin's Department of Medicine and Public Health.

And we're talking about

staying healthy in the winter months, which seems like a very, uh, vague or, you know, of course, yeah, you just put on a coat, put on a hat, stay indoors, that kind of thing.

But there's really more nuance to it than that.

And I want to take it back to something you just talked about, because I feel like in the wake of vaccinations, like I always know, get your flu vaccination.

I now know, get my COVID vaccination.

But RSV is something I feel like has popped up in popularity in the past couple of years.

And

I don't feel like it's been properly explained.

And all I know is when I've asked about it, people just say, you're too young for it.

I'm like, well, thank you very much.

Am I pretty too?

But can you explain to us what RSV is?

Not the origin so much, but just the fact that we really are concerned with it now.

And also, who needs to be on the lookout?

And

I'm going to ask you, and I want to keep everything as non-political as possible, but when it comes to the RSV vaccine, we are living in a very vaccine, not a little skeptic, but also

a fatigue.

We're hearing about it all the time before it was just, I got to go to Walgreens, get my shot.

And, and now it's such a weaponized term as websites subject matter.

The RSV vaccination has been around for a long time.

It is safe.

It is, you know, it, basically people will say like, well, what is this vaccination?

I've never heard of it.

It's brand new.

And that was one of the things with the code vaccination, but I want to make like RSV, it's reliable.

It's been around.

It's safe.

Correct.

Oh, it is.

Okay.

Okay.

Well, I apologize to everyone.

I apologize for assuming I figured, because RSV just sort of like kind of crept in with the COVID type of thing.

So I was like, Oh, this must be another one.

So it is fairly new.

And I mean, and I understand all of the concerns.

I just, you know, for me, and I'll state this over and over again forever is that, you know, no matter what we're doing is you always want to talk to your doctor.

You always want to talk to somebody who you trust about anything medical, anything having to do with your health, especially vaccinations and ask those good questions.

And

When we come back from, we're going to grab some water and some snacks because you're a doctor and I'm sure you're going to tell us stay hydrated, especially in these winter months.

Your skin gets dry, things get ashy.

You want to drink that water.

But when we come back, I want to talk about vaccination levels in Wisconsin.

And I also want to just talk about any myths that we should be on the lookout for to keep ourselves totally educated so we can stay healthy.

And if we can get to it, a controversial question for those who are not feeling well, so close to traveling.

to family.

So when we come back, we're going to keep the conversation going with Dr. Chris Cyrnich from, uh, he is an infectious, infectious disease physician and a professor at the university of Wisconsin, Madison.

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Lots coming up in the next hour, including a discussion with Adam has civic media zone.

Adam has my colleague talking about all the great work they're doing in Richland center, W RCO and W R C E. And yeah, you want to stay for that conversation in the second hour and of course, audio sorbet at 10 35, where we kind of take a step back and have some fun worst holiday movies.

And what is your, and if it's one of your favorites, are you able to admit that takes a lot?

of humility to know that you love a trash holiday movie.

And then finally, this shouldn't be a thing Santa's on the naughty list edition.

So don't go anywhere.

Lots of great, uh, lots of great discussion, lots of great content coming up for you in the second hour here on Matt and our on air.

And we are going to keep our conversation rolling with Dr. Chris Sernich from the university of Wisconsin, Madison.

He is an infectious disease physician.

He's also a professor.

And we're talking about, you know, keeping yourself healthy in these holiday slash cold winter months, especially in the face of an uncertain winter.

We had a lot of cold upfront, a lot of snow.

And now it's going to be warming up.

I saw highs of, of, of upper forties down by me and Kenosha.

And so we're talking about the things that you need to do.

And I think one of the most basic things we need to do, and you mentioned it earlier is getting your vaccinations, making sure you're up to speed.

And you know this, I'm sure you're a doctor.

I had to look at a piece of paper, but.

The, the 2025-2026 influenza season is upon us and we have people in Wisconsin just not getting vaccinated.

It's not enough.

And, and it's not, it's low statewide.

It's not even like, Oh, Milwaukee is at 90%.

Milwaukee currently as it stands right now from the department of health and services here in Wisconsin says Milwaukee is 29.2.

Dane County, 40.6.

After that, it goes downhill.

So talk to us about that, doctor.

Mm-hmm

I washed my groceries

Yeah, yeah

Mm-hmm Mm-hmm

In the last couple of minutes we have, I guess, I wanted to, you know, ask, maybe I'll ask a two-part question really quick here.

Sorry, it's good.

One, the myths that people just, I would say, let's not go over the myth.

That could be its own hour discussion, but like in the face of myths, what do you say to people?

Where do you tell people to go, especially, you know, go into your doctor, but also, what do you tell people right now who are feeling under the weather right now and are like, I'm gonna still go see my family.

It's Christmas.

Yeah.

Dr.

Chris Cernich has been our guest today.

He is an infectious disease physician from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, professor in infectious disease as well.

Thank you so much, doctor.

I'd love to have you back on to talk more about staying healthy throughout the year, staying, you know,

Just doing the good things, but thank you very much.

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My colleague, Adam Hess is, uh, he's based out of Richland center and he is the director of technology at a, uh, the Southwestern school district.

And he is just here to talk about everything they're doing out there at W R C O and W R C E Adam.

Good morning.

How are you doing today?

Oh, Adam, there you go.

Adam.

Yeah.

Can you hear me?

Okay.

I can hear you.

There we go.

I

think.

Hey glad to have you guys along glad to be a part of it as well

Um, yeah, uh, Richland Center, not only, uh, um, you know, we, I always tell people halfway between Madison and halfway between lacrosse.

That's where you find it.

That's

not our only claim to fame.

We do have a lot of, uh, great stuff going on and, and, and glad to be here.

Greg to chat with you.

So yeah, I mean, that's actually where I was going to start with is, is Richland Center.

I mean, I, I'm, I'm going to admit I was born and raised in Wisconsin, really southeastern Wisconsin is my home.

I've lived in a bunch of counties here, but.

But when I started working for Civic Media, I kept hearing Richland Center, Richland Center, tell me not just the geography of where it's located, but what goes on there, what's happening around that area, what are the things that you are keeping a lookout for when regards to the news or just events and what makes people want to

visit?

One of our main claims to fame is it's the birthplace of Frank Lloyd Wright, the architect.

Of course, he moved from Richland Center to Spring Green just down highway 14, and he moved out to Arizona, of course, in LES and two out there.

but that's one of our claims to fame uh... but more recent i tell you what we have such outstanding areas uh... rolling hills uh... we get snowmobiles we get uh... hikers we get snowshoers

fishing, kayaking, canoeing, and we have just lovely cabins for people to stay in throughout southwest Wisconsin, so you can immerse yourself in that nature, the nature walk.

You know, we have, hey, we have a couple of great radio stations.

Indeed.

School districts are great.

Within Richland County, we have the other school district, the Richland school district, and the western school district, and we touch right on the Riverdale school district, which is right down in Muscaday.

So we're kind of a hidden jam.

We're positioned smack dab between Madison and La Crosse.

And more and more people, right on the Highway 14 corridor, no interstate runs through here, but more and more people are finding out.

We're doing some great advertising in like Milwaukee and Chicago, the metro areas, Minneapolis, to get people to enjoy what we've enjoyed for all of our lives, if you grew up in the Southwest Wisconsin, Richland County area.

So, yeah, in a nutshell, that's...

big into outdoor sports uh... we're big into uh... phishing with fishing we love our brandio faggots uh... standing cabins and so just a little bit of everything and then we have uh... we have a radio station that's been a part of this area since nineteen forty nine returned on our transmitter uh... w r c o a m fourteen fifty which is transition to w r c e still a part of the civic media network uh... much like w r c o f m is that came out in the sixties when when the uh... the f m signal uh... once

strong so uh... yeah great guy i i i was born raised here i moved around lots of states and counties in different areas and different uh... careers and jobs and when when i had the opportunity to come back i didn't have twice i think i came running back to uh... southwest wisconsin absolutely love it if you've never been out here great you need to come out ask for adam the great fishing spots

No, no problem.

I mean, I'm always looking for new places, especially in Wisconsin to visit.

And a couple of things, you know, one thing I wanted to talk about was the, the shows that you host two shows, the weekend, wake up and prime mover Saturdays.

Can you talk to us about prime mover?

I sure can.

So Prime Mover Greg has been around longer than I have.

I call myself an old man in radio, but it started, I believe, in 1970 or 71.

It was a 15-minute program, and at that point, being a 15-minute program, people could buy, sell, trade, or give away their items.

Adam, we got some background

there.

people call up and they would sell their items and they would give their items away or they'd looking for items then it moved to a thirty-minute show and then it moved to a uh... uh... one-hour show and then an hour and a half well within an off-and-on since nineteen ninety four took a few years off uh... when i moved on to do some software engineering and then came back in the hosting job of it again but here here's a little known fact yeah okay run from eight thirty to ten o'clock when i was a kid

It was a half hour show.

I believe it was hosted by a man that I've had an opportunity to work with, Bill Twining.

He still provides wrestling coverage for the radio station 50 years later, but I was seven years old, Greg, and I sold a bike on Prime mover.

I called up.

It was a banana seat with the Ram Horn handlebars, and it was yellow, and it was hideous, and it was my favorite bike in the world, but I had outgrown it.

So my dad said, hey,

we'll pitch in some money for a bike, but you know, you've got to pitch in a little money.

Why don't you sell this bike?

So I went on prime mover and I sold the bike and then, you know, 20 years later or 18 years later after that, I came back to host

it.

Wow.

I did.

I've seen the, I've seen the art.

I've seen the advertising for prime moves.

I wasn't sure if it was like a, I didn't know idea what it was about until I recently, but that's, that is an amazing, I didn't realize it was long around for that.

long.

If you're just joining us right now, I'm Matt Naranair.

We're talking to Adam Hess of W R C O hosts prime mover as well as weekend wrap up and has been you've been part of the station's history for a very, very long time.

You've been listening to it even longer and we're talking about what you can find at W R C O when you and W R C E when you

get in touch with Civic Media, which if you live in this, so we are in Racine right now at Radio Park.

And if you want to listen to WRCO, as I said earlier, you can get the Civic Media app and you can actually stream those stations.

Right from your home in Racine, Kenosha, you can do it from East Brunswick, New Jersey.

Vienna doesn't matter.

But if you get that, you can listen to these shows live.

You can listen to Adam on the air by getting the Civic Media Radio app.

And one of the things that we were discussing before this show was the fact that there's some news, health news going on at the Richland Hospital in Baraboo.

And can you talk more about that?

Oh, I sure can, Greg.

So lots of great things.

A lot of people

when they think of the rural area they think okay well you know maybe rural health care uh... isn't it advanced as as a larger city health care and that may be the case in some situations great where uh... you know we we might not have as many on staff we might not uh... that

you know

have all the latest technology but uh... the richland hospital they do they do great work here uh... it and also uh... fsm st clara hospital in in beribu now and i'll and i'll

specify those two are unrelated hospitals they're just hospitals in our area uh... that are within our our signal area that we we just love to cover uh... one of the things richland uh... the hospital clinics recently done is uh... if they they held a food drive right for for uh... disadvantage individuals and three or four truckload

my

goodness truckload of food from a city of five thousand people uh... that that's pretty that's pretty uh... darn decent

and uh... if you uh... you know if you look at uh... richland hospital they have a lot of new technology coming on and you can always go to w r c o or dot com or w r c e dot f m and you can see the stories one of the big ones uh... was up in biribu the s s m health st claire hospital they transformed neurological care greg by uh... bringing in an a i powered device it's an e e g so that's the uh... electrophysiography device uh...

Normally, when you have an EEG, and I'm not sure if you've ever had one, but they put on the electrodes.

They put on the headband.

You sit there.

They get this digital readout or a paper readout.

And then it takes a little while for a doctor or a specialist to read that.

The AI-powered EEG, and I had the opportunity after we got a press release from St.

Clair FSM, I did a little research.

I'm like, this interests me because I'm an AI guy.

I'm a technology guy.

I absolutely loved it.

The turnaround time, it's instantaneous.

The AI will take those readings from the EEG, Greg, and they will sort of gather a game plan.

Okay, here's what we think might be happening now.

Granted, they're not going to... AI is not going to make the health decision for any individual.

It goes on to a specialist.

It goes on to the doctor, the board of review.

But you can eliminate that time.

uh... that it takes and you know doctors are human and there might be only one doctor to read the e-g results and there might be seven people today getting e-g or ten people or twelve people and your number eight in line you may have to wait till tomorrow or the next day to get your reading that's not a an indictment of of the doctor that's just the way the system is that's the way it works uh... with with a i

Yeah, it will take those readings, it will send them on to the doctor who's going to look at it, but it's going to give the doctor a little direction.

So the doctor's not starting with a blank slate, and I know the folks at SSM Health, St.

Clair and Baraboo, they are, they are ecstatic about getting this device.

It is a, if you want to do some research on it, it's a cerebell system.

You put on a headband set up takes less than 10 minutes.

You have a portable recorder.

You have AI driven software with a little hard drive about the size of a little MP3 player.

And I'm not talking like the Microsoft.

You chose the zoom as your example, Adam.

Oh my God.

It's like having a Sony Walkman.

If you remember the zoom, yeah, this is the iPod mini.

You know, just really, really small.

Yeah.

Not only my technology guy, but I told you I'm pretty old.

When this discussion started, Greg, so I'm going to go back to the zoo in every

day.

Well, we're going to keep the conversation going with Adam on this.

There's a couple of things I want to talk about.

One, we were talking to Dr. Cernich earlier in the show about staying healthy as far as vaccinations and just keeping yourself healthy around family.

But one of the things that you also did report on was staying safe and avoiding falls this winter because the, it's going to get really cold again.

We're going to see ice.

We're not going to see ice.

And I mean, it doesn't matter your age.

We want to help you try to avoid slip and falls.

And then I want to go back to something you just discussed, which with regard to rich.

center.

And I think Wisconsin as a whole, as far as brand deal fashions, as far from what I understand, there is a person on this call and his name may be Adam Hess, who has a brandy old fashioned recipe.

And I'm not asking you to divulge it.

If it's secret, I'm merely wanting to talk to you about the topic.

So

I'll tell you what, Greg,

I

put

the recipe online.

You know, I'm a transparent guy.

Release, release the recipe files.

That's what I say.

But we're going to keep that conversation going more with a W R C O and civic media's own Adam Hess.

When we come back, if you have any questions, if you want to talk about Richland center, I'd love to hear from you about this because as we said, it's, it's Wisconsin.

We want to know more about our family around the state, but you can always do that by texting in eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five, seven.

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Good, good morning.

Welcome back to Matt and air on air.

My name is Greg box joined by sweet Cal be the Kelvinator, the board Lord to hear on the ones and twos and you were listening to us on civic media and you can get in touch with us.

Call or text the numbers the same 855 752855 75 civic.

You can also leave a comment on the live stream.

Get that civic media app and you can call also stream W R C O or W R C. Reason why I bring that up is because we're talking about.

We're talking with my colleague from Civic Media, who works at WRCO, Adam Hess, and we've been talking about the wonderfulness of Richland Center, all the things you can do, some wonderful innovations for medicine out in their hospitals, which I think a conversation that's always needed to be had is about rural access, as well as just making sure you go see your, um, we were talking to our previous Dr. Cernich, uh, Adam, we were talking about staying healthy in these winter months.

And one thing that you, uh, talked about,

And you wrote a story about was staying safe in the winter months, specifically having to do with avoiding falls this winter, which is not just for older folks.

I routinely will with it on two times during the winter and talk more about that.

You have, there's a story on the W R C E website about this matter.

Yeah.

So that's, uh, our news director, W R C E and U R C O news director, Joe and crew lots, uh, had written a story that was a press release and then she wrote a Iowa County and it sparked it.

thought of me because one when i had fifty years old i realized i don't as well as i did it forty or thirty or twenty right and i don't want to know i'm gonna be out now you great uh... and so it was uh... it was a personal interest to me we all have uh... we all have people uh... older parents

siblings, friends, community members, church members, whoever in their, you know, 60s and 70s and 80s and beyond.

And I thought, you know what, I'm gonna construct a story around what Joanne started.

So I give Joanne a lot of credit for sparking that with me.

Yeah, so the biggest thing is, and you can always head to the website or our Facebook page and get the numbers, and it's in the millions of, you know, how many people fall in the U.S., how many are ice related, how many are age related, but the bottom line is, you know, if it's icy,

And, you know, you start out by writing 19 when you write your birth year.

You're definitely going to want to just take it slow.

There are a few things you can do, obviously.

You can shovel, you can hire somebody to shovel.

You can put down ice melt, you can put down salt.

Out here we use something called barn lime, and it melts ice.

it, uh, it sticks to ice.

So it makes it a gritty traction and stuff that, uh, we farmers used to use in our barns to, uh, to put down.

So, so cows didn't slip on the cement when they're coming in and out of the barn.

And then somebody got the great idea, but while living in Wisconsin said, Hey, if it works on cement and my, uh, my, you know, one ton cow is not going to fall down.

How about we try this on ice and it works.

Is that, is, is barnite as barn lime, uh, is that pet friendly or should you keep pets away from that?

Okay, I'm just kind of winging it on the barn line include that in my story But we always had it around the cows and the cabs and the dogs and and the humans and there's a dust There's a dust level to it So I always put on a mask when I put barn lime down rather if it's in a barn But when I was younger or now if I'm putting it down on ice and snow I always wear like the respirator max mask like if you're a boy or you're doing drywall It's almost like a drywall dust

Um, but, uh, yeah, so as far as environment and pet friendly, um, uh, part of me says, yeah, we're good to go, but I don't have the official, uh, the official numbers on that, Greg.

So, um, but so definitely you want to stick with the, the, the ice melt for sure.

Uh, the, the type of salt that's, uh, um, that's, you know, directed to, to take care of ice.

It's always good to put up handrails.

If you own your area or if you don't, you could talk to your landlord.

If you know there's a place that's always icy every year and you're getting older and you're thinking, one of these years I'm going to go down walking to the garage or walking to the mailbox.

Handrails are good.

I know a lot of new constructions they're putting in.

Heated pipes in the cement.

is heated or your your uh... your your driveways heated which does a really good job of keeping the ice off so the numbers are there if you just go to w r c o dot com w r c e dot f m r facebook page we're actually as we head into the holidays here great we're going to boost that uh... story again we're going to do a refresh on it it'll go towards the top so you'll be able to find it uh... lots of great tips in there a lot of staggering and almost depressing numbers if you look at all the people that are impacted and what we say falling off

You're not just bruising yourself.

There are broken bones.

There are fatalities, Greg.

People are dying.

They die when they fall.

They hit their head.

They get internal injuries.

You can maybe not be able to get up.

You knock yourself out, lost the blood.

So it's pretty serious.

And I joke a little bit.

I do a lot of joking in life and talking about how I don't bounce once I hit that mark.

taking all the jokes aside, Greg, that's, that's pretty serious

stuff.

Well, and we're going to take that article I've got right in front of me and we're going to put it in our show notes so people can go directly to that story and find out for themselves because yes, and, and, and, and I am, I am still of.

Bouncy sort of age, but I tend to whiff it at least two to three times.

And I wear boots and I wear the stuff you're supposed to wear.

And I still slip on ice that I don't see because it's not looking like ice.

So really just be careful, be vigilant and take care of your properties.

And also just for your neighbors too.

You don't want to be, you don't want to be Adam.

You don't want to be the guy who doesn't salt your driveway and your walkway.

Don't be that guy.

So

right.

And then one of your neighbors or somebody passing through or the male person or somebody goes down,

not only you know

Obviously there's always the chance of litigation and different things, but you have to live with that Yeah, it was it was your reason exactly that you didn't take care of your property and somebody got hurt and it could be your mom It could be your aunt could be you know somebody you didn't know but still nobody you're right You don't want to be that guy and you don't want to have that on your conscience

exactly We don't have enough time to talk about old-fashioned Which means you have to come back because we're coming up on the New Year So maybe we're gonna have a discussion then because I want to know more about this and tell you a story but Adam Hess has been our guest he is

is one of one of the hosts at WRCO here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Adam, have a lovely, lovely holiday.

Stay safe.

Try to bounce if you can.

Merry Christmas, my friend.

Merry Christmas.

We'll talk old fashioned.

Exactly.

All right.

When we come back, we're doing Audio Sorbet worst holiday movies and the ones that are the worst that you love, but don't go anywhere.

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Good, good morning.

Welcome back to Matt and air on air.

My name is Greg Bach and I'm here with sweet Cal be the board, Lord, the Kelvinator and Santa Cal.

That's your nickname for the holidays.

Santa Cal.

Are you okay with that one?

Calvin?

Yeah, it works for me.

There you go.

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We are in the area of the show where we call Audio Sorbet.

Lovely.

That is where we take a step back from all the news we're talking about during the show and we have some fun.

Talk about some frivolity and it's holiday season.

It's holiday week.

Folks, are you done with your shopping?

Are the presents wrapped?

Are you still looking at Amazon going?

Oh God, I gotta buy something.

Where are you at with your holiday shopping?

I want to know.

Are you done?

Are they under the tree?

Are you kicking back?

Maybe having an old fashioned, maybe not this early, but if it was a Bloody Mary, you'd be fine.

I don't know.

That's our culture.

Anyways, we're talking about the worst holiday movies ever.

What do you think the worst holiday movies are ever?

What are the ones you just could never watch again?

And I feel like I don't want to say that you can't say things like a Christmas story or it's a wonderful life because they're constantly played, but.

If you don't like them, you don't like them.

Tell us.

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Calvin, we were talking about holiday movies last week, but are there any holiday movies that you just stay away from?

Well,

In all in reality, it's all Christmas movies.

I'm

not really a fan, but

I'll get a little more specific Okay, anything on the hallmark channel.

I know those aren't like Recognizable they're kind of just like one-offs

they produce

massive amounts of them, but if it's on the hallmark channel, it's probably

bad.

Well, and that's the thing though, Calvin, that's a very interesting topic you bring up.

Cause we could easily say I'm tired of miracle on 34th street or I don't like, um, yeah, a Christmas story or whatever.

Esther on the, on the live stream says that jingle all the way is a terrible movie.

I, so Esther, if you're still watching, is it, you think it's a terrible movie?

You think it's a terrible movie?

movie that you love to watch.

Is it both neither?

But yeah, Jingle all the way.

That one has grown in popularity over the years.

And I believe they made it one of those direct to DVD.

In fact, I think it's starring Larry, the cable guy, which makes total sense.

But the thing though, Calvin, do you know that the Hallmark Channel's Christmas movies are almost its own industry now?

They make them nonstop.

And they're so popular now that other streaming services like Netflix basically has their own version of the Hallmark Christmas movie where it is.

And it's usually starring a woman.

And it's usually a woman is in a situation where she is done.

So she goes somewhere else like home and then she reconnects with a kid she went to high school with.

And whether or not she's in a relationship originally is up to the writer.

But then they realized,

the beauty of Christmas and love and everything is great.

But that is a cottage industry now.

I mean, they're making tons of money off of those movies because like you said, they make a bunch of them.

They hire very non-famous people to star in these movies.

So I don't imagine they're getting huge paychecks and then they just pump them out there and they're making money.

And then every once in a while, there'll be some kind of fun, B list, C list celebrity who

is on one of these movies.

And then that becomes their identity.

They are now the Hallmark Christmas actor on all of their films.

I mean, that is, I get what you're saying, Cal, that it probably, I would say when it's not that it's not good, it's predictable, but it will definitely be entertaining.

Cause you want to see how they retell this story for the 79th time this year.

Yeah.

I guess I don't find it entertaining at all.

I mean, it's just

First of all, like you said about they're always the one not to single out women, but they're the Category that they're the main character

protect yourself

out

of movies.

Yeah,

of course the

woman is always presented as like oh She falls in love with someone else and the person that she leaves behind is always presented as the bad guy But like if we looked at it like if it was

Happened in reality.

I think the woman who leaves her boyfriend and then falls in love with someone else is the villain not the guy that gets broken up with

Well, I mean, I think I mean a lot of times what happens you're like Well, you should really break up with that person before you enter into relationship with but yeah, I get what you're saying and I will say that it's also usually it's a woman

Who is got a high-powered job?

She's living in the big city.

It's a lot of time.

It's the big city They present the big city as the problem.

They say just that city living come back to where you're from whether it's whether it's the country or whether it's a small town It's always the stressors of of the city lights have gotten to this person and they just need to or they burn out or they get fired It's it's never anything other than that, but it's

That is basically the premise of it.

I'm looking at a list here of the worst Christmas movies as told by rotten tomatoes.

And I guess, you know, here's, here's a couple that, you know, Ernest saves Christmas.

I know a lot of people my age would fight someone who says any Ernest movie is bad because we grew up watching Ernest films and they're all fantastic.

Here's one that popped up that actually Jenny just said here for Christmases with.

Vince Vaughn and Reese Witherspoon, a story where all the characters are unlikable, especially the leads.

Yeah.

Yes.

I don't want, I mean, I'm sure he's not listening right now, but Vince Vaughn is someone that I can take in small doses and that, that Vince Vaughniness of him, am I like?

You know, you shouldn't be the lead in this movie because you don't, it's all about, ugh, no, thank you.

But I saw a little bit of it and I don't disagree with you, Jenny.

It's like, yeah, none of you should be around each other for the Christmas time.

It's just, you should all be in four separate Christmases in four separate like regions of the United States.

No, I thought you were gonna say something Calvin, you were told in the mic

there.

I thought of another terrible

Christmas movie.

Yeah,

go for it, go for it.

Well, I don't even know if they're terrible because...

As a child, I thought they were kind of fun, but when you really dig into the premise of it, the Santa Claus movies with Tim Allen.

Okay.

Go on.

Just that- My mom's gonna want to fight you.

I mean, they're, I guess, kind of interesting, but the idea that Santa Claus dies on this guy's lawn and he has to become Santa Claus now is- Well,

it's a Disney movie, right?

Is it it might be yeah, if it's a Disney movie then you are accustomed to tragedy happening in the first act of a film to force the story to move forward I mean I was raised on characters being whacked up and Killed

off immediately.

You know what I've actually in thinking about the Santa Claus have completely Resin my opinion about it being terrible.

I actually think it's awesome The idea

what happened right there Calvin.

I just like started think about how like bizarre the idea that like

this guy just evolves into Santa Claus.

And then like the person he marries just evolves into Mrs. Claus.

And he just like asked to be Santa.

It's actually kind of a interesting premise.

I don't know if I've ever heard someone change their opinion.

So who says in this world that people can't change their opinion with a little bit of information?

And what the thing with that movie though is funny is that when he goes to the doctor, even the doctor's like, man, I guess, you know, but no, this is a medical anomaly that needs to be studied.

We need to, like, is this the new, is Santa Claus, the new COVID, can I catch the Santa?

Will I turn into a big guy with a beard?

Can I never shave again?

Like that is, those are the big questions, Calvin, that are not being asked by the Santa.

And then they made a second one and then they made a third one and then they made a TV show.

But yeah, that is, I mean, between the Santa Claus and the toy store movies, Tim Allen never has to work again.

We are talking about the worst holiday movies this time of year.

What are the ones that you avoid?

Or what are the worst ones that you actually like?

We're looking at a list here from rotten tomatoes.com and the Santa Claus, I think at least two of them are on there.

Deck the halls, Christmas with the cranks, surviving Christmas.

You know, there's eight crazy nights.

That's a fun movie.

People can get off.

It's animated.

It's fun.

Leave me alone on that one.

Troy from Mount Horrib is on the phone.

Troy, Merry Christmas.

Happy holidays.

I hope you're, I hope you have your presence wrapped.

What say you on this topic?

Happy holidays to you both.

Happy holidays.

Almost.

Yeah.

I'm waiting, I'm waiting for an Etsy delivery.

The Calvinator is 100% right.

All these Hallmark movies are basically Sweet Home Alabama.

Nice.

Nice.

Nice reference Troy from Mount Horrib.

Except for one we saw last week, which was overboard as a Christmas movie.

Lindsay Lohan had a ski accident and lost her memory.

Oh my God.

And then did a man employ her to do his housework against her?

Oh my God

Oh

my goodness See the thing is that that overboard as a story I grew up with them.

I love that movie the original not the remake We didn't know what asked for the remake, but the original

I watched it a lot, but now as I'm older, I'm like, Oh, that's a problematic topic.

Like that would be, is that criminal?

And then, and then someone said, let's make a new version with a hotel in Lindsay Lohan.

Everyone said, yes, let's go for it.

Okay.

Well, now I have to look deeper into that one too.

Troy, any big plans for the holidays this year?

Are you going anywhere?

No, just family stuff.

My family lives up, I find a lot.

So I go up there.

That's part of the cycle.

All right.

Good.

Well, thank you so much.

We appreciate you calling in, Troy.

Always love hearing from you.

And if I don't talk to you before then have a wonderful Christmas, have a wonderful holiday.

And yeah, we appreciate you stopping by.

Thank you.

Thanks, man.

We're talking about the worst holiday movies.

What are the ones that you just will stay away from?

What are the worst holiday movies that you will defend?

You know, are you a fan of, let's see here.

What's, what's another one?

Calvin, we saw on the list, a horror movie called Jack Frost, where the notorious serial killer, Jack Frost is being driven to his, he, he embodies a snowman.

Yep.

Okay.

16% on rotten tomatoes, but I'm sure there are people out there who love it.

Do you love a horror Christmas movie?

That's another question we could also ask.

I don't watch horror movies.

Calvin, do you watch horror movies?

I love horror movies.

I can't say.

like Christmas themed ones though.

Silent Night, Deadly Night?

Never seen it.

Oh, that's like the first one I think it was.

Or Black Friday.

So my list of worst Christmas movies is on IMDb.

And one

I just noticed was Unaccompanied

Miners.

That is, I think, yep, that is on the Rotten Tomatoes list as well.

There's a very odd movie about

Unaccompanied Miners at an airport.

So children flying without their parents and the airport gets snowed in and then they stop a terrorist attack or something.

So it's diehard too with kids.

Kind of.

I don't

know.

It's really weird.

Well, it was also directed by Paul Figue, the same guy who did the Ghostbusters reboot and he did a bunch of, he did a bunch of other like did freaks and geeks.

That's very funny.

That's one of his films, but that's just diehard too.

with kids.

That's all it is.

I want to know which one is who gets to say the, the catchphrases that I can't say on the air because those are FCC not compliant.

So, but yeah, feel free to tell us more about your favorite bad Christmas movies, the ones you stay away from.

We're going to keep this rolling into this shouldn't be a thing.

Santa is on the naughty list edition.

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We're going to be, we're going to be live today.

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We're going to be live tomorrow.

And then on Wednesday, we're going to have a curated best of episode, which is going to highlight the, basically the retirement journey of Matt, Jane, Matt and air who retired on December the 12th.

a couple of weeks ago and we're going to play our best, our favorite interviews from all of that when we were that last week, week and a half where she was having friends on, having discussions about her career and just taking a wonderful stroll down memory lane.

But you can catch that show on Christmas Eve and that's going to be Christmas music, basically from two PM onwards through Christmas day.

It's going to be wonderful.

And then we'll be coming back live on December the 29th, Monday, December the 20th.

So live tomorrow.

pre-recorded on Wednesday and then Christmas music on Thursday and Friday back with you live on Monday for two more days.

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This shouldn't be a thing.

This comes all the way from CBC.

news, the Canadian Broadcast Corporation, the headline reads thieves dressed as Santa and his elves steal $3,000 worth of goods from Montreal grocery store.

Group claims responsibility for Robin Hood style grocery theft.

And this is Annabelle Oliver with the byline.

Several people dressed as Santa and a group of masked elves were filmed at a grocery store in Montreal on Monday night, filling up their carts with food.

Well, seemingly festive, the group left the grocery store without paying.

Yeah.

Montreal police said that Caroline, oh, that's a French name, Chevrolet Fils.

Nope.

Sorry, Caroline, didn't get it right.

Confirmed an investigation is underway in connection with a shop list lifting incident at a large retail store.

And they want to find out what's going on, what happened, masked and disguised individuals who would be left with food without paying for what's seen on the cameras.

And all told it was about $3,000 in food.

And the group described Monday's raid, this is the group that took responsibility for it.

It was about $3,000, was redistributed under a Christmas tree at Place Voyer.

It's very French-Canadian, this story is.

They said it was a great food drive.

So basically, they took from the rich and they gave from the poor.

And Calvin, I mean, like, where are you on this one?

Putting the pressure on you, buddy.

You can say if

you don't like it.

You can say if you love it.

Understand where the thieves are coming from I don't know if this was the greatest smartest way to do it, but I Don't know how big the corporation that owns this store is so I don't if this is was a family grocery store.

I think that was pretty bad, but if this was like Canadian Walmart then I

don't really care.

It said sharp shoplifting incident at a large retail store.

And they also said the group that took responsibility said a handful of corporations are holding our basic needs hostage.

And they posted that on their social media from the activist group list.

Nope.

No, sorry.

I should have done a translation on this one.

It's so French.

I can't do it.

And I'll just feel bad if I get it way wrong.

But yeah, and it goes on to actually talk about this story.

I'm going to put in the show notes, talks about the inflation rate in Canada, things that we're going through here in America, happening all around the world, and Canada is not immune to it.

But this is what people are referring to, are resorting to, and it's up to you to decide, are they a good Santa or a bad Santa?

Are they on the naughty list or the nice list?

I'm going to leave that to the listeners and viewers.

But for now, that has been another edition of... This shouldn't be a thing.

Tomorrow we've got a live show.

As we said earlier, we're going to be speaking to the ACLU as well as Isaiah Holmes, who is a journalist talking about flock tech in Wisconsin.

And we would love for you to be here.

As we said, it's going to be a live show tomorrow.

We'll be here live, having a great time talking about the holidays.

We'd love for you to stop by, contribute, give us your thoughts.

And then Wednesday, it will be a prerecorded best of walk down memory lane of Jane's retirement announcement all the way up until her last show.

as it was the 12th of December.

I want to thank Calvin.

I want to thank Tucker.

I want to thank the engineers.

I want to thank traffic.

Without any of you, nothing happens.

I'm just a guy talking to a mic that's not even turned on.

I want to say thank you to the listeners, the viewers, everyone who called, commented, everyone who's a part of this to our guests today, Adam Hess and Dr. Chris Cernich as well from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.