Gas, Grids, And  The No Good Gableman(Hour 1)

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Gas, Grids, And The No Good Gableman(Hour 1)

Matenaer on Air · Mon Oct 27, 2025

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Coming up on this show, Matt Randolph, also known as Mr. Global.

Mondays with Mr. Global, he is going to be back after the 9.30 news.

Donald Trump, of course, promised that energy prices would be cut by half.

Cutting half.

Cutting half.

Cutting half.

Everything is going to be great.

Everything is wonderful.

His

energy is going to be so cheap.

They'll be giving gas away to people by, here's your free gas.

It's so cheap.

Here's your free energy.

It's so cheap.

That doesn't seem to be the case right now.

And Drill Baby Drill and all of that and Cole is back and everything is dandy.

Maybe not so much.

We're going to talk to Matt Randolph who does actually own a gas company.

He lives in Oklahoma.

He's been an oil

and gas for over 30 years.

He is a certified oil and gas expert.

Not just

a guy who says, I know a lot.

It's

a

process you have to go through to get certified by, it's a thing.

It's a

thing.

He knows his stuff and his YouTube page is gonna be linked in the show notes so you can see all the videos he posts about all the people out there who think they know about gas and oil and he just- It's so wonderful.

Politely.

He is very polite.

Sets them straight.

Yeah.

In hour number two, right after the 10 o'clock news, I want to talk about Scott Bassent, who is all over the talk shows yesterday.

He, of course, is the head of the Treasury.

And he's also just a lowly soybean farmer.

Greg, did you know that?

He's a farm boy.

Just a regular guy.

He feels soybean farmers pain.

We're going to talk about that.

Yeah.

kicking off hour number two.

We're going to talk about snap benefits coming to an end.

I've seen a lot of people on social media over the weekend who are just delighted.

Delighted.

Yeah, they're

lazy moochers.

Lazy moochers.

Lazy

moochers.

Seen some definite some racist racist and racial language being used

in their celebration.

Yeah,

exactly.

Yeah.

So

we'll talk about that after 10 o'clock.

Last half an hour of the show, as we always do, we will lighten it up.

with a segment we call Audio Sorbet, where we get away from the news, talk about lighter, sillier things, just so we can all breathe for a moment, or to talk about going retro.

Going retro.

For

some.

For

some.

For some seems retro, and for others seems like... Yesterday.

It's been my house for 30

years.

So things that are back.

Yeah, things are back that were once gone.

I

never thought would be coming

back seriously.

So we'll talk about that after 10 30.

And then we'll wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

We're doing a Halloween themed week.

Yeah, for the tis bets.

Today it is the itsy bitsy spiders edition.

Stay tuned for that.

Wanted to start off with this, though, and this broke on Friday, I think.

because we didn't have a chance to talk about it before.

Elected officials object as FEMA denies Wisconsin flood disaster aid.

State and local governments objecting Friday to the Trump administration's decision denying additional disaster help to for infrastructure in door Grant, Milwaukee, Ozaki, Washington and Waukesha counties after the flooding in August over 1800 homes were damaged or destroyed.

and estimated $34 million in damage to public infrastructure.

Roads and bridges from David Crawley, Milwaukee County Executive, roads and bridges that our residents rely on sustained substantial damage.

Public building and facilities not only washed away, but in some cases with significant mold, our parks and our trails were damaged.

for the short term as well as the long term and the list goes on and on.

So we did get some aid from FEMA, but as far as helping with these infrastructure things, FEMA's like, yeah, no.

No.

You don't need it.

No, this is a new avenue for America, usually when things, and...

This was unheard of for Southeast from Wisconsin.

This kind of rainfall,

this flood.

I in my lifetime have never seen anything this destructive.

And in any other time, a year ago, if this would have happened, even in the midst of what was an election, we were days away from an election a year ago, President Biden would have made sure we were covered.

President Biden, all presidents before they would make sure that these states were covered.

That's just what you do.

There's the money there to help.

Now we're being denied other states are being denied.

This is where we live a lot of

blue states are being denied.

I think honestly, so I mean Let me I want to look that up

right double check that

but it's This doesn't help anything or anyone

no,

it's it's all put it's pushed on the narrative states

got to step up

Well, and that, yes, and that is what Trump said, even leading up to the election, that states need to handle more of this themselves.

Stop coming to the federal government for help when there's a natural disaster.

That's not our job.

That's what they said.

Kind of think that the states put our tax dollars go into that, and it's an investment in a program that doles out.

money for the places that need it's like it's not like you created the money it's not new money that came out of nowhere this is money that's paid by the taxpayers by the states and supposed to be in a pot ready for usage when it's needed and now you're saying we don't we can't help you

bunk in a letter to governor evers femus said while the impact to individuals and households was significant based on early damage assessments quote it has been determined that the public assistance program is not warranted unquote

Evers, responding, denying federal assistance doesn't just delay recovery.

It sends a message to our communities there on their own.

The Trump administration doesn't think over 26 million in damages to infrastructure is worthy of their help.

I couldn't disagree more.

Wisconsin, Maryland, Vermont, Washington, Michigan.

and Arkansas, all states that were denied FEMA money.

Arkansas

is

the

outlier

there.

Well, so is Michigan, Michigan.

Well, Michigan and us, we all voted for him.

That's true.

That like,

but he

doesn't like Governor Evers.

He doesn't.

And I guess he, I'm not sure whether he likes Gretchen Whitmer or not.

I'm not sure where they fall on the scale, but Wisconsin, Arkansas, Michigan, all voted for him.

And we got denied.

And again, it's this thing of.

Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

The government can't be here to help you.

Well, we're not asking for $10 billion.

We're asking for a nominal amount of money that works with what has happened and what needs to be done to fix these.

And this is the money that we have put in as a state.

So I guess you could call it.

Please excuse the pun, but literally a rainy day fund.

We're not asking for...

an exorbitant amount of money this isn't 26 million isn't that much and I've I know two people who were denied FEMA funds period like the stuff we did get they were they were denied flat out

Senator Tammy Baldwin said that no community can pick up these pieces alone Wisconsinites need support so they can rebuild I hope my Republican colleagues

We'll join me in calling on the Trump administration to step up to the plate and be here for Wisconsin communities left in the lurch.

Oh, come on Wisconsin Republicans would never criticize the Trump administration over anything No, even if their own constituents are the ones who get hurt and I'm really I'm

sorry, but

I'm getting tired of Democratic lawmakers using that line.

I'm hoping that are Republicans dot dot dot.

They're not going to help.

They're not going to do and I hate saying that, but they have no incentive to do so.

In fact, they have everything to say, don't do it because if they do something, which smacks of indifference and or criticism of the Trump administration, they're going to be in trouble as well.

And that's for

it.

And I will say this.

$123 million, that's not a lot for the federal government.

And we do have $4 billion in surplus money that we could dole out as well.

But hold on, I just got a call from Robin Voss.

He said, oh, he's laughing.

Oh, is he laughing?

And he

hung up on me.

Yeah.

So actually Wisconsin could cover it, but we won't because Madison hates spending money on anything, especially its people, unless it's a tax break.

Unless it's a tax break or a tax refund.

A check in the

mail.

That is it.

That is it in the Republican playbook, our tax cuts for rich people.

Pretty much.

My vote.wi.gov, call your state representatives right now and tell them.

And I don't care if you don't live in the Milwaukee, southeastern Wisconsin area, tell them that they need to get on board with pushing the administration to fund this recovery because this has effects on Wisconsin.

Because the Northwoods might be the next thing that gets a heavy snowfall.

Maybe it

could be rain.

Maybe

it's Green Bay that gets fly.

I don't know.

I'm not saying I want any of those things, but what I'm saying is that when one area suffers, we can all suffer because they will deny it for everyone.

And it doesn't matter if your region voted for him because this whole state went for Donald Trump and we still got denied.

So call them my vote dot w i dot gov.

Look up your representatives.

tell them that we need to get FEMA money because that is what we pay into.

And tell our Republican friends in the House that they should end the government shutdown and bring back Democrats to negotiate over health care because that's what this shutdown is about.

It's about health care.

By the way, Representative Kaelin Haywood, a Democrat from Milwaukee talking about FEMA not giving Wisconsin all the money that it asked for after the August floods,

pointed out that snap is on the verge of drying up and we're gonna get to that next hour.

Communities, meanwhile, left to rebuild infrastructure on their own.

It's disappointing the White House is choosing a $300 million ballroom ego project over the well-being of the people in Wisconsin.

Now granted, the big billionaire ballroom is allegedly being funded through donors.

And

the price keeps going up, by the way.

Did you

notice that?

Jane, I was going to say the price was originally $200 million.

Now it's up to $300

million.

It's going to be half a billion dollars, if not more.

And I will continue saying this from the top of the mountain.

And please feel free to use these words as well, as long as the people who are quote unquote donating to the Ballroom Fund.

are doing that.

Those are millionaires, multimillionaires, billionaires.

Those are people who enjoy the tax breaks of the wealthy class.

They are getting tax money back or not having to pay it.

Therefore, in my opinion, I'm paying them because they're getting my money that I put in the system.

Therefore, I am paying for this no matter what because they are utilizing their tax breaks to give big donations and it's all

It's all a slush fund in my opinion.

We're just being turned into one big slush fund for the billionaires in this country.

Pretty much.

And you're paying into it.

And guess what?

If you voted for Donald Trump, you're still paying for it too.

You're just as on the hook as we are.

It doesn't matter the color of your flag.

It doesn't matter the region of your country.

It matters only one thing.

Are you rich enough to get an appointment with him?

No, then you don't matter.

And that really is what the fight is.

Yeah.

As much as they would like us to be fighting each other.

Yes.

And we are and it's they're doing a great job of fostering that and we are no it's about the ultra wealthy and the rest of us pretty much By the way, Carol from walkie-shot texting and listening and WAU case is don't forget about the 40 billion dollars for Argentina and Nothing for Wisconsin,

which a month ago was 20 billion.

Yeah, now it's 40 billion now.

It's 40 billion and by the way

300 million for a ballroom, 40 billion for, but no

money for healthcare.

172 million for Kristi Noem's planes.

The

statue,

the

Garden

of

Heroes.

All the Garden of Heroes.

But

absolutely no money for healthcare, no money for SNAP, no money for Medicare, Medicaid, nothing like that.

It's all gonna be cut, because we're going broke, folks.

But the

Trump administration has their eye on the important things.

Absolutely.

Trump's ego projects.

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Coming up later on today,

The Todd all the show from 2 to 4 p.m.

He will kick off the show Recapping the weekend headlines talk a little bit about that.

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We beat our ex-boyfriend.

Only

you call him their ex-boyfriend.

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At 2.30, so we'll kick things around.

And we literally just chat.

That's great.

About stuff.

About really important things.

Yeah.

So I'll be on with Todd today at 2.30 in the three o'clock hour, another edition of What's Worse.

Today they're talking Wisconsin Meats.

Okay.

That should be interesting.

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I'm gonna be listening to that one.

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This is from the Wisconsin Examiner.

Henry Redmond has the byline.

Gableman could be on the hook for $48,000 to cover costs for investigating him.

Former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman could be forced to pay over 48 grand to cover the cost of the state.

office of lawyer regulations investigation into him for his behavior during the search for Cheaters in the 2020 presidential election which brought up Zippo Nothing zero our two million dollar investment in Michael Gabelman found no proof.

Yeah, no evidence of

voter

fraud.

And you don't have to go any further for that information than Robin Voss who admitted that there was nothing found.

He

did.

Yeah, he did.

So here is my question.

Should Michael Gabelman pay up $48,000 for these costs?

855-752-4842.

Should Michael Gabelman pay as part of the review?

It resulted in 10 counts of misconduct being filed against Gabelman.

Late last month, he did agree to have his law license suspended for three years because of those charges.

Yeah.

That's a huge fee to getting a law license suspended is takes a lot more work than people think it does.

It does.

It really does a

lot of work.

And honestly, Jane, I'm going to open up my civic media app right now.

I'm going to call the show and tell you what I think.

Oh, yeah, he should have to pay up.

Period.

Get the civic media app.

It's free.

855-752-4842.

Should Michael Gable and who spent

$2 million worth of our money, looking for fraud in the 2020 election, none of which was found.

Should he have to pay $48,000?

855-752-4842.

I would agree with your call there, Greg Bach.

Yes, I think he should have to pay for it.

I think that honestly,

Well, no, I don't think you should have to.

Robin Voss put forth the money.

I just feel like $2 million of our money wasted on this.

And also employing the services of a man who was wildly under qualified to investigate this in the first place.

Let's just start there.

But also the fact that nothing was found and we're still $2 million on the hook for it.

And then, yeah, he should be paying this entire thing.

Yeah, Michael give me should be paying that $48,000.

Yes, and it's it's funny to me that he's still he's still how many years?

Three four years after the fact still in the headlines.

Yeah on this.

Yeah

Well again It's a lot of money.

It's a lot of money and I'm sure Michael Gableman and even Robin boss would love for us never to talk about this again.

Mm-hmm Because it's got to be kind of embarrassing.

Well, I don't think

Well, that's it.

That's wrong.

No, Rodney Ross doesn't feel embarrassed anymore or shame.

Yeah, there's none of that.

If you bring it up, he will simply just divert the topic to something else and blame Democrats.

That's what they do now.

Anytime you try to hold Republicans responsible or show accountability, it's always how it's somebody else.

It's not even Democrats sometimes.

It's just always someone else's fault.

And that's one of the things that really infuriates me because I was always raised to believe that Republicans were the party of personal responsibility.

Yeah, that kind of went away 10 years

ago.

And

that is, that is laughably gone now.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Richard, do you get the last word before we go to the bottom of the hour news?

What do you want to say real quickly, please?

I think he should be punished more because this is a manufactured thing he did.

He should have known way better with his experience and time in law.

It's really outrageous.

Appreciate it, Richard.

Thank you.

I agree.

I think he should have to pay up.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

And Jack from Merrimack, a listening WUK says, but it's much more important to give trillions and tax welfare to quote job creators and hundreds of millions of Trump himself because the DOJ actually showed criminality or a few hundred million to the Imperial Epstein ballroom needs the gold trim or billion to make Argentine grab.

Yeah, it's it's this is all but like all the way.

Anyway, they can get money.

I mean, I mean, $2 million is take $2 million to make that kind of investigation.

I don't want to throw conspiracies and I'm not trying to right here, but

Where did all that two million

go?

Well, and I think, I see, and I think there's a whole bunch of stuff within there that I would love to know more details about some of the things that were coming out while that investigation was going on.

I mean, they didn't even keep ledgers, the Gableman investigation.

It was a mess.

No, they don't.

It was a mess

because they are, they are once again.

wildly under qualified to do any of these things.

You want another piece of proof?

Look at who is trying to prosecute Leticia James in DC, a woman who has never, ever been

in court.

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He is an oil and gas industry expert, which is something you have to earn.

It is Mondays with Mr. Global Matt Randolph is here.

Good morning.

How are you?

I'm

great.

How are you?

We're good, Matt.

Good to see you.

Thanks for joining us.

Let's start off the top.

with gas prices.

Gas prices, according to the president, are down.

Everything is down.

Gas prices are down.

Life is good, man.

I filled up yesterday.

They're not down.

I know, right?

Right?

I mean, I did research yesterday.

I went to the gas station yesterday and I filled up and I paid cash.

and it was still, what's cash?

It was still like 30 cents higher than it was last week.

Now I know there was a fire at a refinery in Indiana, correct?

Yes.

And so that is having an impact probably especially here in the Midwest.

Definitely the upper Midwest, yeah.

But you know, gas prices are not really lower anywhere else in the country either.

They're about the same as they were last year this time.

I believe they're

305 or six a gallon today on a national average from AAA that's who I use and If you would have asked me a year ago, you know, what are gas prices going to be in a year?

I would have told you 305 306 right now like, you know, it's everything that's happening has been predicted by all of us before the election regardless of who the president was so

Well, and it's important to remind folks as well, because I want to say maybe a month ago, a month and a half ago, prices did start coming down, but that happens every year, right?

As we get away from the summer

blend and we

get away from the summer blend and we go back to regular gas blend.

Yeah, we swapped over to winter blend and, you know, prices fall as they do every year.

That's why people think

you know prices fall right before an election

right

but it's not right every time there's an election we swap the winter blend literally 45 60 days before and everyone thinks that elections are rigged with gas prices but it's

like they're completely they are completely unrelated there is no relation whatsoever prices tend to go up in spring as we switch over to that spring blend and then they tend to come down and fall

As we go back to the regular blend, this has happened year after year after year after year.

And people still use that as the indicator of where the economy is.

And it's just not a good bellwether.

Right.

No, it's not.

Well, the president promised us Matt that when he got into office, we were in a drill baby drill and we were go everything was going to be dandy.

We have a cut from Doug Burgum, the secretary of the interior Kelvin.

Can we play that clip from Mr. Bergen, please on Fox.

Minerals China today controls 85 to 100% of all the refining on the 20.

most important rare earth minerals that are essential for defense, essential for automotive, essential for high tech in our country.

If they have a stranglehold on that marketplace, we have to break it.

President Trump knows that, and we have to get back to mining in our country.

It's not just drill, baby drill, it's mine, baby, mine with President Trump.

I

mean, he is definitely mine, baby, mine, because it's all his.

Pretty much.

How is that going, Matt?

From from where from your vantage point drill baby drill and mine baby mine.

Oh

Neither are really going anywhere

What happened what happened to drill baby drill prices were to be down the energy prices were to be down by 50% Yeah,

well, you know shockingly companies don't produce when prices are low, you know, that's It's a big surprise to everyone, but it's true

It's absolutely true.

Well, we've talked about this many times before that when when oil when oil per barrel starts to fall and it gets to around 60 bucks a barrel, that's when oil producers stop making money.

So they are less inclined to invest more money to do more drilling when they're not making money.

Correct?

Yeah, absolutely.

And, you know, he went to OPEC and got its oil there.

You know typical Donald Trump stuff.

So yeah, if you're just joining us We're talking to Matt Randolph who is also known as mr. Global you can find him on YouTube where you put out you put out so many videos now I follow you and you are always in my feet and I'll have I'll have that link in the show notes for today I mean the question I have for you.

I mean Jane you asked it perfectly is that like, you know people want They want gas to be cheap

Therefore, if they see barrels of oil prices going down, they think, oh, that's wonderful.

But that isn't good for our economy.

It's not good for those companies.

It's not good for us, period.

So to see gas that's like $1.99 or less, that doesn't do the long-term good that we believe.

Because we're always told cheaper is better.

And when politicians say, we're going to lower the gas prices, which none of them can do,

nobody knows actually the knock on effect.

Can you, Matt, can you talk about that?

Like you just said that when the barrel prices go down, they're less inclined to produce, but what then has, well, how does that affect us as consumers then too?

Well, you know, saving 10 cents a gallon on gas seems like a really great thing for a lot of people.

I don't know why it's like $1.50 on a fill up, but what you are,

what you're really spending is, you know, so far under this administration, we've lost somewhere around 25,000 welding gas jobs and all of those, keep in mind, all of those are like six figure jobs.

These are really

high paying jobs that don't require college educations, right?

So this is access to blue collar, middle class workers to make really good money.

You know, it's one of the few places left

where someone without a college degree can come in and, you know, blue collar job and make a really good living for their family.

And, you know, we're losing those jobs left and right.

It hurts manufacturing.

It hurts the steel industry.

And it's a big hit to our tax revenue in the United States.

So it's a massive ripple effect, you know, for every oil and gas job created in the United States.

I don't remember the exact number.

Don't quote me on this, but I think it's like 2.8 other jobs are created, you know,

as,

um, ancillary jobs.

So it is, it is huge.

And, and for me, I just don't think it's worth that dollar 50.

I tank that people get so excited about, especially when you're spending, you know, an extra thousand dollars a month on the other things you need to live, like food and electricity.

Well, and let's talk a little bit about electricity because that was the other big promise while among the many promises that that Donald Trump made that electricity prices were to be down 50% and it's gonna be great and That is not what's happening around the country either people's electric bills are not going down

Now you know I told people a couple of years ago that pretty soon their electric bills will be as high as their mortgage payments And they told me I was crazy, but we started seeing that a lot this summer.

I think we're gonna see it

And of course, a lot of it's weather related.

If we have a winter this year, like we had last year, if we have a cold winter, we're going to see it a lot more this winter.

And electricity prices are going through the roof due to grade capacity.

And we have an administration that

wants to pick your source of power for you instead of just understanding that we just need electricity regardless of where it's sourced we just need more of it and but you know it's not electricity prices have been coming up for a long time and everything the Trump administration is doing is only going to make that significantly worse.

Well and he's trying to sell killing off

you know, windmills and solar, solar arrays and stuff like that.

He's trying to sell that as a way to bring down our energy prices when actually it's doing the opposite.

As you said, you're in the oil and gas industry, but you have always been open to all forms of electricity generation.

Well, yeah, the oil and gas industry is the energy industry.

And that's all kinds of energy, whether it's, you know, oil and gas, fossil fuels, nuclear, renewable, it doesn't matter.

If you're passionate about working in the oil and gas industry because you're providing energy for people, then you should be passionate about energy in general, no matter what kind it is.

It's the way I look at it.

But obviously that's not true with everybody.

But yeah, he's doing absolutely, he's going to make things significantly worse by destroying renewable projects.

and expanding our LNG export capacity by as much as possible.

Those two things are going to be the third and fourth whammy I would say for electricity prices for Americans.

Well and you were talking about the grid and problems with the grid and this is something that we've talked about in Wisconsin because

There are several data centers now which want to come here.

One was rejected in one community, one was accepted in a different community, but those two are gonna be, those are massive energy sucks, those data centers, massive.

Yeah, a typical data center uses as much power as 80,000 homes.

And, you know,

As with everything else that we build in this country, as time goes by, we build it bigger and bigger and bigger.

And that means in five years from now, a data center will probably use as much power as 250,000 homes.

That's just, that's how it is in this country.

It's always bigger and bigger.

And in addition to that, there's never been a good plan or policy to really improve and expand and upgrade the grid.

The Biden administration tried with the Infrastructure Act and I think the problem there was the grid is the least profitable thing.

It takes the most investment and it's the longest return on investment.

So when you're focusing on the grid, you have to have a different plan than everything else, right?

You can give the subsidies and tax credits for renewable energy, but you have to go a different route with the grid.

You have to be much more aggressive.

You have to push a lot harder because people, if they can choose five different things to put their money in, it's not going to be the grid.

It's

never going to be the grid, right?

And so that was sort of a failure there, not recognizing how hard it is to get people to invest in the grid.

And Donald Trump is doing nothing.

Like he's completely reversed what the Biden administration was doing, which was helping a little bit, but not enough.

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Jack, we'll take you out right now before we go to the break.

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We have a

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And one of the things I actually I want to ask you when we come back from the other side is those jobs you were just talking about all of those is something that even the Republicans aren't saying because I could see them pushing a narrative.

We're losing all these jobs because the Democrats are because of this that nothing but nobody is talking about these blue collar jobs these good paying jobs and

I would like to know more about that because that seems like that could definitely be a talking point from both sides of the aisle.

But we're not discussing that at all while we're seeing tens of thousands of people losing their jobs.

And we'll talk about that when we come back.

We're talking to Mr. Global Matt Randolph.

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Mr. Global Met Randolph is here.

Oil and gas industry expert talking about all things energy.

Jack from Merrimack did call back in and he's been very patient.

Good morning, Jack.

Thanks for joining us.

What do you want to say?

Good morning.

Well, first of all, I'm helping with the electric grid.

I just put solar panels on my house.

So they don't have somewhat anyway.

Good for you.

Now I hope Mr. Randolph will forgive me for this, but there is a way to stabilize or at least reduce the cost of electric production in my opinion.

And that's to only allow American produced electric production for new electric plants.

In other words, just only approve renewable sources, panels, wind farms.

hydropower, that energy is not going to be shipped out of the country because it's really hard to take a solar array and use it for somebody else's electric production and so it's not dependent on international markets.

It's not dependent on the whims of guys like Ben Solomon and Putin who wanted to jack up the prices of petroleum products.

And that should at least keep the prices fluctuating as well as they have been.

Appreciate it, Jack.

Thank you so much.

Mr. Global, what do you think about that?

Well, he's he's not wrong if we only And so here's the thing we can dispatch and build and generate renewable electricity faster than any other kind We can add 80 90 gigawatts of electricity a year in the United States with just renewable energy We can't do that with anything else.

So it's very fast

Um, the one issue is, is when you add renewable energy, you have to upgrade the grid a little bit because it's a different type of flow of electricity.

It is intermittent.

That doesn't mean it can't be used.

It just means you have to make changes to your grid a little bit to handle that, but he's not wrong.

Like he's, he's really not wrong at all.

Um, it's just not a thing I think will happen.

And that may not apply everywhere in the country.

You know, there's probably places where some other type of energy would work better, but he's not like he's not missing the mark on that.

He's it's it's simply something that's not going to happen.

You know, we don't always do what's best.

No, I know that's shocking.

You always say the funniest thing.

We only a couple of

minutes left and I really want to get to it.

This is from.

Wyoming Public Radio, Congress gave a break to coal producers.

Now Wyoming is concerned it's gonna carry the loss.

So the Trump administration gave a break to the coal industry, but what they did was lower fees for mining on public lands.

That money helps fund things in Wyoming.

So they've lowered the fees for these mining companies.

But now the state is struggling to pay infrastructure and all that stuff because they depended on those fees That's not working out so well is it?

Not only is it not working out.

I don't know if you know about this but in Montana and the Powder River Basin the BLM just tried.

Oh, I lost my Lost my camera.

There we go The BLM just had a lease sale for coal, right?

They got one bid $186,000 bid for 167 million tons of coal so to put that in perspective.

The Navajo Energy Authority bid less than a penny per ton of coal.

That is over 100 times less than the last lease sale they had.

Basically, coal companies aren't willing to pay anything

for more coal on public land, even with these new incentives that the government has put out.

I thought that was a fascinating story when I read that.

Is it just because they don't feel it's worth the investment?

Well, they have an enormous amount of coal, probably more coal than they're going to need to get them to the end of coal.

coal is plentiful in the United States and they're just not willing to spend any money on more coal because they see the end of coal coming.

But this, look, I would pay $186,000 for 167 million tons of coal.

I would do that every day.

Seems like a pretty good deal.

That is

like a half a penny a ton or whatever that works out to is, but it really shows you even how

Coal companies are viewing coal themselves.

They're not willing to buy more coal even with the new incentive incentives from the federal government So it's it's anything the federal government is is any incentives they're giving these companies is there's absolutely no return

on

investment, right?

And it's and it's and like you said, it's gonna cost these states a fortune

as they are finding out

in Wyoming that uh yeah we're we're struggling now it's it's they got all of these millions of dollars from these coal companies leasing on public lands and now they don't have to pay that anymore and now they're struggling with uh with money it's called i don't know it's called consequences and looking long term down the road and what could i what could happen if i do a and then b might happen and then c might happen and then d might happen

And they're also in a place now where their state legislature and their governor and no one can criticize the Trump administration.

Because if they do, they'll get in trouble and probably have things cut from their budget, aid withheld.

There are consequences there.

But

follow him on YouTube, Mr. Global, Matt Randolph.

Thank you so very much for your time.

It's always a pleasure.

Matt, really appreciate it.

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After 10 30 will be audio sorbet where we lighten things up and get away from the news.

We're going to talk about going retro, baby.

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Oh, that guy.

Yeah.

He's the head of our treasury.

And he was all over the network shows yesterday, especially talking about our soybean farmers and how China has bought zero

Soybeans from our soybean farmers.

Jane,

how can a guy who's the Treasury Secretary and worth over a half a billion dollars have anything to do with soybean farms?

Jane, how can even identify with the plight of the

soybean farmer?

Funny you should ask that, Greg Bock.

We have a clip from Mr. Besant.

Calvin, can we play that clip, please?

From Scott Besant

yesterday.

Martha, in case you don't know it, I'm actually a soybean farmer.

So I have felt this pain, too.

And there are a couple of things happening here.

One, the Chinese have substantially dropped their purchases to almost zero.

So they unfortunately have been using American farmers who are amongst...

President Trump's biggest supporters.

I think he had more than 90% support.

And then this was one of the biggest crops in 20 or 30 years.

So it was a perfect storm.

But I think we have addressed the farmer's concerns.

And I'm not going to get ahead of the president, but I believe when the announcement of the deal with China is made public that our soybean farmers will feel very good about

what's going on both for this season and the coming seasons for several.

So things are going to be good.

And again, you know, Donald Trump is going to be meeting with Xi, President Xi of China when he's overseas this week.

Maybe there is some great deal coming.

It seems a little too little too late.

I mean, things are harvested already.

Well, also the soybean problem, if I'm not mistaken, it's also from the original.

Yeah,

the first time around.

They lost market shares after his first administration.

It never came back.

No.

This is not brand new.

This is something that the Biden administration was trying to repair.

This is something the Trump administration could have repaired in its first year, but it didn't.

And now our soybean farmers are absolutely null and void.

They have no market share.

And I want to make something very clear because it had to be explained to me by Pam Yankee as well as Will Westmoreland is that any bailout money that farmers get is not going to go to flush their bank account full of cash.

It's

not going to make them whole.

It won't make them whole.

It

will only pay on their debts.

Right.

That's what that money is going to do.

Money they didn't want in the first place.

Farmers don't want a bailout.

They want markets.

That's what they want That is what all the farmers we talk about.

They always say the same thing They do not want bailouts.

They want markets and this soybean and look, I'm not a farmer I never will claim to be I would be terrible working at a farm.

I'd be crying by 10 I

mean, I'm

hungry.

It's hard work But for him to say I'm a soybean farmer is so disingenuous and so offensive and I don't get offended by a lot but him sitting there with his

probably a suit that costs more than I make in a year, saying, well, I'm a soybean farmer too, so I get it.

Someone actually asked Grock.

That's Elon's Elmo's chatbot.

Yeah.

Grock about whether or not Scott Bassent is a soybean farmer.

Little difference than actually being out in the fields.

Yeah, Scott Bassent is a hedge fudge manager.

who owns $25 million worth of farmland in North Dakota.

So he bought up a whole bunch of farmland and he leases it to soybean farmers.

So Scott Bassin is not suffering by any stretch of the imagination.

His net worth is estimated at $500 million, over $500 million.

So when he says, oh, I'm a soybean farmer too, yeah.

No, you're

not.

No, you're not.

No, yeah, you're not.

You probably don't feel any pain because you don't feel any.

This is really just, I think Jane, the thing that really angers me is the fact that these individuals get to say things like this.

I'm a soybean farmer too.

And there are people out there who say, I

didn't

know.

What is he going through?

Right, it must be

tough.

He could buy anything.

He could buy all the soybeans in the world probably.

I don't know.

It just is really upsetting because I feel like one side of it, our farmers are being taken down the road again.

And we don't even talk about the non-existent farm bill anymore.

That's almost laughable.

Seriously.

We're talking about market share.

We're talking about money.

We're talking about them surviving the next harvest season.

We're talking about their kids possibly being the sixth or seventh generation.

But then there's the other side where I see people on social media saying, well, they get what they deserve.

It's like, that's the wrong narrative too.

We have to work together.

This is not about farmer versus city folk.

This is about class.

This is about money.

This is about being able to afford to live a life.

This is not about me or you or Darren Von Ruden from the Farmers Union of Wisconsin saying, I really would love to be a billionaire.

I don't know anybody who wants to do that.

They just want to be able to pay their bills, take a vacation, retire, and live a good life because they have done what America asked for us to do, which is work hard, show up, complain as little as possible.

But it just feels like someone like Scott Bassett is using that sort of empathy and sympathy that people have in America to say, oh, he gets it.

He gets my plight.

He doesn't.

No, he really doesn't.

His kids, his grandkids, his great-great-grandkids will never understand the plight because they are wealthy.

We're talking about Scott Bassent, our Treasury Secretary making the rounds on the talk shows yesterday, saying about our soybean farmers.

Well, he's a soybean farmer too, so he understands what they're going through.

Hedge fund analyst Karen Brown said, quote, Bassent owns up to $25 million worth of North Dakota land

bringing in 100,000 to a million in yearly rental income.

By the way, he was supposed to divest those assets.

He didn't meet the deadline.

So he still has those assets.

And by the way, when we're talking about Argentina and the $40 billion we're using to bail out Argentina and their economy, Scott's got some good buddies who bought a lot of Argentine debt.

Isn't that interesting how that works?

And our bailing out Argentina helps Scott Basin's friends make bank on their investment.

Isn't that nice how that works?

I'm surprised that he even said he would divest.

Do

they

even bother doing that anymore?

No.

Because back in the day, if I'm not mistaken, it wasn't a law.

It was an expectation.

You're supposed to put running in a blind trust, divest yourself out of the company, your kids or whomever runs it.

Give us your taxes.

Those were all expectations from people who are running for office and if that person won, the people who then work in that office are expected to do.

And because we don't hold those politicians accountable with any sorts of

There's

no consequence.

There's no

consequence.

So therefore they don't have to do it.

So anytime someone says, Scott, why haven't you divested?

Oh, we're not talking about that right now.

Exactly.

It's not

important.

It's not important.

You know what's important?

I'm a soybean farmer, Jane.

But you're not a soybean

farmer.

But Jane, I

own land.

We're soybean farmers.

At best, I'm soybean adjacent.

Thank you.

He is definitely soybean adjacent.

Yes.

Yes.

We're almost,

you know who is it?

Soybean

adjacent.

The markets for American farmers.

Thank you very much.

I did that.

But it's, it's,

it's infuriating.

Jack from Miramac, this is a great point, texting in on WAUK.

If Scott Besant really wants to help out his soybean farmer constituents, he could simply refund the rental fees on his $25 million worth of farmland.

That's a great idea.

There are

Definitely ways that this government can help people by Refunding tax break.

I mean there are so many ways and as I said before Jane It would require a small percentage of the billions of dollars if not trillions of dollars that these these Ultra wealthy people are going to get they could simply just say we're gonna take five percent of the entire thing

and we'll give it out in forms of tax cuts, tax breaks, and that will keep the people satiated, and we'll still be offensively rich.

Yes.

Really, really, really rich.

But they don't do that, and then these Scott Besense, Mike Johnson, Donald Trump, whoever you're talking, Ron Johnson, they always spin it to, well, the Democrats, dot, dot, dot, Antifa, dot, dot, dot, dissenters, dot, dot, dot, and people eat it up like...

Eat it up like candy and that's the problem is trying to get people to understand that these decisions They're making it will affect you.

It's gonna affect all of us regardless of who you voted for my vote dot wi dot gov folks I know who your representatives are I get new screen sometimes I get very anxious and angry and very whatever but Make your voice heard they still can listen to our

voices.

Yes, they can whether they want to or not And we always encourage you to be polite if you're gonna reach out to your lawmaker if you're gonna call them

Keep in mind that the person answering the phone is a much, they're far, far down on the scale of responsibility and abilities to change things.

I read a really cool post the other day says, if you want to try to get a little more action done, reach out and find out who their legislative directors are.

Yeah.

All right.

That's your homework assignment.

There you go.

When we return SNAP benefits, they're going to be going away.

Republicans say,

It's all the Democrats fault.

They really care about people eating.

And some of them are like, good.

Not so much others.

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And at 705, he'll talk to A.M.I.L.

Berylott, Creative Director for the Ghost Boat in Wisconsin Dells.

Okay.

Ghost Boat.

Oh, I saw an advertisement for that this week and we went to Madison and we saw Ghost Boat and I'm like, who's driving?

If it's a ghost?

If I walk

on a boat and it's a ghost boat and there's a human driver, I'm like, give me my money buddy.

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Get your money back.

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Right there.

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It's just so fun.

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Want to spend a couple of minutes on this from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and Kleber has the byline snap.

Funding in Wisconsin is running out.

Farmers and businesses brace for impact.

The federal food assistance program will run out by November

If federal officials don't figure a way to keep this going, almost 700,000 Wisconsinites who rely on SNAP will be affected by this.

The state provides about 113 million a month in food share benefits, all of that funded by the federal government.

If the Fed doesn't come up with a measure to solve the government shutdown, that money runs out November 1st, affecting recipients and local farmers.

Well, luckily, Jane,

Wisconsin has a four billion dollar surplus.

Yeah,

which we won't use and I would like to I would like to ask Matt Smith of WISN upfront to ask State Senator Mary Felskowski her thoughts on what the state could do to step up to maybe cover it for right now because we have all this money We do and we have people who need to eat We need people who need to buy their food and they're gonna lose their snap benefits.

Thanks Derek Van Orton, but State Senator Mary Felskowski, you tell us your thoughts on the state stepping up to help out

Calvin, can you play that clip, please?

The state now says food share benefits come November will run out 700,000 Wisconsinites, $114 million a month from the federal government.

Is there any scenario that you see that the legislature would step in if this is prolonged?

I, you know, $114 million is a lot of money.

Um, and my heart goes out to people, but this is a federal issue.

And I don't see the state having the resources to do that.

Um, I just wish that the Democrats would sign this continuing resolution and vote for it.

And let's move on.

Okay.

So that,

thanks.

That's enough, Mary.

Uh, the reason the Democrats don't want to sign off on this is because the deal that they agreed to earlier.

Yeah.

after they agreed to that deal, is when the Republicans gutted Medicare.

And now they are trying to save the ACA subsidies, which are going to go away.

Which affects a lot of our farmers.

A whole

lot, affects of a whole lot of us.

A lot of people are on

the ACA.

This is what Democrats are holding out for.

Republicans are like, come back, sign the deal, and then we'll talk about it.

Then we'll find a way to fund it.

Should they trust that?

No, absolutely not.

And it's not a clean CR.

They keep saying it's a clean CR, but there's spending in there that doesn't need to be done.

It's just to give more money to security as they want.

All this money to security.

Tons of money to ICE, tons of money to DOD, tons of money to things that doesn't need it right now.

It's not so clean as they'd like you to believe.

And the Democrats are fighting to make sure that people who are on the ACA aren't going to have their premiums tripled.

in

a matter

of a few days, honestly.

Absolutely.

So yeah, thank you, Mary Felskowski for doing and saying nothing.

You are not going to help us.

We have $4 billion for at least say, say, we'll fund it through the end of this year.

At least.

But no, it's not, it's not our problem.

Well, and consider Mike Johnson, his last week, he already told House members not to come back.

Yeah.

So this is what week five they've been off.

I think they've worked like 14 days in the last month and a half house members.

Yeah Yeah Mike Moses Mike now says this morning snap benefits are a unique situation I got a summary of the legal analysis The contingency funds are not legally available to cover the benefits right now

Well, why can't we get another melon to donate a couple hundred million dollars like they did to pay the military?

Yeah, we'll get that this week as well.

The DoD has taken donations, I guess.

Yeah,

apparently.

And I was shocked over the weekend by the amount of comments I saw about people celebrating folks losing their SNAP benefits.

Please keep in mind that a lot of folks who work for big, really rich companies like Walmart,

You snap because they don't get paid enough.

There are a lot of working people who get snap benefits because they don't make enough money.

And you know who fights the hardest about raising the minimum wage?

Companies like

Walmart.

And also, we'll be talking about this because the snap benefit loss, food share loss is not going to go away anytime soon.

But there is also a baseline investment in grocery shopping that will go away when people can't afford to buy groceries.

Though people who use SNAP benefits to buy groceries, if they can't buy groceries, the grocery industry will also take a huge, huge hit.

Farmers are going to be hit by this too.

It's going to hit all sectors.

Public, private, farm.

It's going to hit the suburban, urban.

It's going to be hitting us all again.

This is not about red versus blue.

This is about the ultra-wealthy taking our money and leaving us to fight for scraps and fight each other.

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This is the portion of the show that we call Audio Sorbet, or related getaway from the news.

Talk about sillier things.

And we like to clean your ears with fun.

Exactly the official title of Audio Sorbet.

So we were kicking this around before we got on the air this morning, which is where these always come from.

And a good friend of mine, her daughter is 22.

She's a sophomore in college.

And she and her friend are buying a house.

These are some really organized girls, man.

Wait, I'm sorry.

I didn't know this portion of the story.

They are sophomores in college and they're buying a house.

They're buying a house together.

That's amazing.

And can I just say to you, to say to your friend, to say to those individuals, they should document this process because I feel like young people buying a house can talk to young people who want to buy a house better than, cause we were at this conversation last week with

some people

in the, in the building and everything I feel like I'm saying, I'm like, old man talking, but I feel if

Two people in their early 20s are doing this process.

One, it is achievable.

It's not impossible

to buy a house.

It's not

easy.

It's not easy.

It was never easy to buy a house though, really.

Granted.

But if two people who are of your generation can say, you can do it.

We're not super rich, but here's the process.

I think that's very, very important.

Again, these, these are something

to talk

about.

Well, these, these girls are pretty amazing and, and have worked.

I mean, they're

Again, they're sophomores in college.

I think they both have full-time jobs.

So they're very motivated kids.

But anyway, so as they are preparing to buy a house and move in and start all that stuff, I'm going to get I was going and I'm trying to clean out stuff and just do some purging.

Yeah.

And so they're taking all my VHS tapes.

They are so excited about VHS tapes.

They're 22 years old.

Okay, maybe they shouldn't

talk to anyone about anything.

Honestly, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, folks.

I just, it got us talking about what is retro and what is cool and what is retro that's coming back.

Apparently VHS tapes are back.

Yeah.

They're, they're desired again.

What else is retro that's coming back?

855-7524842.

Is it?

A board game?

Is it some other electronic thing?

I mean, Album's vinyl has been back, certainly the last 10 years.

Honestly, vinyl really never went anywhere.

It just was not in popular opinion, but there were always those people.

We know those people.

All the vinyl heads.

Hey, man, you got to listen to vinyl.

It's the only way you can listen to that.

You can really appreciate that.

You can appreciate that.

You can appreciate that 76 basement amplifier that they, it's like, I don't care.

You know what?

Okay.

Get all the VHS you want get all of the CDs you want get all the albums you want I Hate moving moving is a drag and the two worst things to move are books and or media and if you have an albums and CDs are among them mean cassette tapes adorable, but

But albums like I got rid of I got rid of I think I had like 300 albums at one point Wow, I listened to none of them I know and I got rid of 95% of them because I listened to none of them and I just Hate boxing them up and moving them.

They're so heavy and it's just a tedious task so

Sorry, it sent me an almost into audio gripe.

And if you want to play the thing, Calvin, you can because I'm griping right now.

For me, I don't understand the appeal of VHS personally.

I'm

not, I don't, I don't get it.

Yeah.

But hey, they're, they want them.

Yeah.

Like great.

I'll box them up.

You're going to have all of them.

Um, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.

What is retro?

That's coming back.

King rat.

on the live stream says it seems like CD players are having a resurgence.

We were talking about this before the show and I've heard, I've seen videos on social media and I know that's my first mistake where people will discuss the quality of sound of CDs versus MP3s.

And when I was growing up tapes and vinyl were the thing and CDs were the cool thing, but there was a complaint that the compression rates on CDs were too much and kind of.

It scooped out low range on albums, took out that warmth.

Everyone talks about warmth when they talk about vinyl.

Oh, is

that what it is?

I guess.

I don't know.

So vinyl is warmer, a warmer sound.

Sure.

I know.

It's audio files.

It's a whole different vocabulary.

Well, honestly, Jane, when it comes down to any sort of thing, whether you're talking about audio, you're talking about beer, you're talking about...

motorcycles, watches, cars, and I'll say it, dudes.

Not saying women can't get in these cultures.

And I'm grateful that when they do accept all people to love what they love, but I cannot be at another barbecue holding a beer in my hand, trying to look at my watch while some guy is telling me why I need to buy a $200 watch.

Not buying it, huh?

No, I'm not buying his reason.

I'm not buying the watch, but.

The the comparison the CD aspect of it all people are starting to say CDs sounds better than mp3 Cuz complain of mp3 was it was even more compressed than CDs and so it's less warm.

It's

It's cooler.

It's it's just so cold.

It's chillier Calvin

Yeah, I guess so I understand Like Greg I understand sort of the arguments for vinyl When it comes to mp3's that

So this is gonna get a little nerdy, but near the way it's considered a Lost format when you convert someone from its original something from its original format to an mp3 it degrades mm-hmm So I can understand why someone would want to move away from mp3s But that being said Apple music and Spotify both now feature lossless formats where you get the original quality mm-hmm

So I'm not sure where CDs come into the play because I don't think CDs are lossless.

As far as being compressed.

Yeah, I believe a CD is degraded from its original recording.

855-752-4842.

Are you going retro?

What actually qualifies as a retro anymore, 8-5-5, 7-5-Civic.

The unbelievable alter ego on the live stream says, I agree with Greg.

I sold all my vinyl years ago because I was sick of moving them.

Now that we live in a house, my wife actually loves vinyl.

In fact, when we go on our trips, whether it's this past weekend overnight or our January trips, by the way, I'm telling you my life, sorry about that.

She always goes to record shop.

We always go to record shops together and she buys at least one to two, if not three vinyls from local artists.

So that's cool.

So we have like a nice time capsule of where we've gone and who we listen to, but do you listen to them?

Well, not right now because we don't, in my opinion, have a good setup.

That's why I was talking to you Dave about it.

We discussed that maybe it's time to invest a little bit of money in a player, a receiver and some speakers, not thousands of dollars.

But something so we can enjoy because we have a nice set up down in the basement and it'd be nice to put an album on.

Also Jay, I'm lazy and putting on an album is great.

But then in 15, 20 minutes, you gotta get up and

turn it over.

I know it's so exhausting.

Thank you.

855-752-4842.

Tom from West Dallas texting in listening on WAUK.

I'm still a big fan of DVDs.

I hate when I want to watch a movie and I can't find it on stream.

Now I always fall back on my DVDs.

I also have a big collection of laser discs.

My player still works great.

The only thing I have to do is lower the resolution on my flat screen so the picture looks clear.

I love that.

Laser discs were going to be the thing of the future.

Right.

Because because

that wasn't a blue ring.

Well, it was it was it was VHS then laser discs.

laser discs came out and the quality of the picture was better, of course.

But also, that was the beginning of, oh, we put special features on there, director's commentaries, bloopers behind the scenes.

It was the extras.

And then someone said, hey, how about we take this gigantic dinner plate and turn it into a teacup?

And then we were like, this is the greatest thing ever with DVD.

Then Blu-ray came out.

Then they're like, hey, it's going to be all on a computer somewhere in Nevada.

Which, by the way, if you don't know this, and this is important to tell people, you may have a digital movie collection, but you may not.

Because there are things in your terms of an agreement that say that if those movies go away

from those- If

they pull them?

They don't.

And you've paid for them.

Yeah, it's

gone.

You

still don't have them.

But yeah.

I don't see a world where I say, honey, let's fire up the VHS and watch the last dragon because I need to relive the eighties again.

My childhood

eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, talking about retro, going retro.

I have a young, my good friend of mine, her daughter's 22.

She wants all my VHS tapes.

I'm so excited.

Uh, Jack and Merrimack, I can beat the VHS tapes.

My son has told me not to get rid of my beta tapes and my beta VCR.

That's amazing.

Because beta was actually better than VHS.

It was the quality of beta.

Then why did that not take

off?

Do you want to know the real reason?

Money.

Oh, that, but the commitment from a certain industry that sold a lot of VHS cassettes in the eighties said they were going to be only on VHS.

And it's not Disney.

It's in the back of a store, a video store with beaded curtains.

When they went to that format, that essentially ended blockbuster.

No, porn.

Oh,

when they

committed to being on VHS, but it was also the same thing that happened with Blu-ray and HD DVDs.

There was HD DVDs, which was a brand name and Blu-ray.

And when Disney said we were going to put all of our stuff on Blu-ray HD DVDs, which people claimed had better quality, we're gone because they didn't have an exclusive contract with a company so big and parents buying DVDs.

And if they go Blu-ray, that's where they go.

You know what I mean?

Like, so the one big move from a big media company killed the competition.

Interesting.

They're not concerned about.

Quality with porn.

I'm so shocked.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

We're talking about going retro and VHS tapes and CDs.

What about cassette tapes?

Are they coming back

anytime

soon?

Yes.

Al from Campbell's Port has been waiting very patiently.

Good morning, Al.

Thanks for joining us.

What do you want to say?

Yeah, good morning.

I like to smell a vinyl in the morning.

Okay.

Are you a

vinyl guy?

Yes.

And is it because it's so much warmer sounding?

I

don't know about that warm part.

I mean, there's a lot of snap, crackle, and pop in there, you know.

Right.

So what is it about vinyl that

you love, Elle?

Well, I've been buying since 1964, you know, the Beatles and that.

That was my first stuff.

How

big of a record collection do you have?

Oh, quite a few.

Is it in the thousands?

Oh, yeah.

No,

okay.

Oh, I mean, if you've been buying for, if you've been buying for 60 years,

yeah.

Absolutely.

I mean, Al, I'm honestly right there with you when it comes to vinyl.

I love buying vinyl, but I also like to buy a lot of used vinyl.

I'm one who looks for the $7, $8 vinyl.

And I, because nowadays, as you've probably seen, Jane vinyl from bands can be $30, $40, $50 for a brand new one, cause it's all 180 gram and remastered and all that stuff.

It's like,

I bought a Hank Snow record this weekend for $3.

And you know what?

It's going to sound amazing.

It'll be just fine.

Josh from Racine, you get the final word.

We only got about 50 seconds left.

Thanks for joining us, Josh.

What do you want to say?

Oh, I was letting you guys know I re-sell full time.

And it's crazy how many people have been buying these like VHS combos and like the TV VHS combos.

I can get them for, you know, free off the corner and turn around something like 150 bucks online.

It's insane.

Wow.

That's crazy.

So I know what to do.

I see them.

It's back.

Thank you, Josh.

Appreciate it.

All right.

When we return, we're going to wrap it up with this shouldn't be a thing.

Itsy bitsy spider's edition.

Stay with us.

This is Matt Nair on air coming to you across the vast statewide country wide.

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Good morning.

Welcome back to Matt and Air on Air.

Jane Matt and Air.

Greg Bach.

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Join us at 855-752-4842.

You can leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter coming up tomorrow on the show.

Todd Alba.

Our friend, colleague, travel companion, host of the Todd All By Show from two to four across the network.

He will be here after the 930 News.

And you'll be there today.

I will be on Todd Show today at 2.30.

We just kind of have tea and kick things around.

Ooh, fancy.

Yes, tea with Todd and Jane.

And Corrine Hendrickson, our friend.

is going to join us now running for office.

Yes, we will be, but we will be talking about weekend, which is a, oh gosh, now I'm blanking on that.

We'll be talking specifically about the efforts from their group to get for childcare, access and funding and things of that nature.

I want to get the name of that.

I apologize for not having that.

The childcare issue in Wisconsin and around the country has not gone away.

No, yeah.

And tomorrow is Wisconsin Education Career Access Network.

We are going to be talking to her about that.

and what they are doing now that the funding has, I mean, they got a year of funding, but that's not enough.

Well, no, it's gonna run out.

Yeah, exactly.

So yeah, can't wait to have her on the show.

She's always a great guest.

She is, she's fabulous.

Informative and energetic.

Absolutely.

So join us tomorrow.

Again, Todd Alba, Corrine Hendrickson, and much, much more coming your way tomorrow show.

Calvin, it's 10.54.

That means it's time for... This shouldn't be a thing.

If you ever find a thing you think should not be, send it in to Greg and Mia.

Jane says at civicmedia.us.

J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S.

Jane says at civicmedia.us.

We're trying to do Halloween themed tis bets all week.

This one from the Miami Herald, Espen Flugenhoft.

God, I wish that

was my name.

What was that name?

Espen Flugenhoft.

Good bless you.

Thank you as they have the byline for the Miami Herald.

The headline reads, Cavers find huge extraordinary spider colony on Albania Grease border.

Walking into a cave along the Albania Grecian border, Cavers shine their lights along rock walls and found a massive and extraordinary spider

colony.

A team of speleologists from the Czech Speleological Society visited several caves in northwestern Greece in 2022 in one cavern dubbed the Sulphur Cavern.

Cavern, they found a large colonial spider web.

They believe it has 110,000 spiders.

Okay, so here's how this goes for me.

I'm there.

Yeah.

Picture me there on the Grecian Albanian border.

You got your headlamp on.

Got my headlamp, got my hand torch, got everything I need, got my granola snacks for later, because you know, boy, you're hungry.

Well, you're in a cave.

I'm hungry and I'm in a cave.

The moment I see 50 spiders on a web, let alone...

That many this is my impression of me look at that.

Well, I gotta go now and then I leave I leave the country I get on a plane I go to somewhere where there's not a hundred and fifty thousand spiders near me the extraordinary colonial spider assemblage

Which is how they describe it.

I'd never listen that band spanned 1140 square feet of the walls of this cave home to two different species the domestic house spider

and the other spider, uh, Prinigione vegans.

The two spider species had not been known to live together until now.

In sin.

Spiders and spiders living together,

meaning cats and

dogs.

Researchers estimate the massive spider colony was made up of 111,000 spiders.

Oh, that's fine

then.

About 60% domestic and 40%

of the Pringeroni-Vegan spiders.

What I really like is that it's the Pringeroni-Vegans, which sounds like an alien race of spiders.

It does.

And then the Common House spider.

Yeah, just the ones you find in your bathroom.

Just got a little ass caught on saying, would you like some tea?

Welcome.

We've made you a

chair out of our webs.

The team is very excited.

The location of the colonial spider web coincides with an area where an unusually dense swarm of flies usually hovers.

Researchers estimate the swarm had over two and a half million flies.

An abundant food source that helped to grow this impressive, extraordinary spider colony.

Hey, Jane, there's a spider on your shoulder right now.

I know, it's just given me the

grease all over the place.

You chose this one, by the way.

I know.

You were like, we're gonna do Halloween, so let's also do weird, too.

Let's do creepy.

Hey, everybody, everyone listening right now, there's a spider on your shoulder.

Carmella texted us much earlier in the show.

And she said, last Thursday morning, I got back in my car after gassing up.

I was playing with my phone about started, I'm ready to start driving.

When I looked up on my gear shift and there was a spider.

Look at how fat it is.

I

froze, looked around for something.

I could scoop it with nothing seemed doable.

Then it just climbed over into the passenger seat and climbed underneath.

That was four days ago.

I'm pretty sure it.

in caps is still

waiting to come out and attack me.

I had a spider on my, on my side view mirror, which migrated its way to Bridget side view mirror, which migrated its way from the tree across from us to the roof of our house where it built this huge web suspended by our roof and the tree.

And I walked out of the house and I saw a dot out of the corner of my eye and it was just this.

Spider sitting on a web suspended between the two and they're not close.

That's a pretty ambitious little spider.

That was what it was and it wasn't like a week later.

It was literally the next morning This spider has gravitas and work ethic.

I love these spiders a spider with presents exactly that wraps up today's episode of

This shouldn't be Thank you Greg and Calvin and all of our engineers and everyone at Civic because without you nothing works and Thank you most of all for calling and texting and listening and watching on the stream.

It means the world I hope you find some joy today Even if it's just a little bit and you have the chance to share it keep it right here news coming up next followed by Tom Hartman and

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Good morning, welcome, welcome to Matt and Air on Air.

Jane Matt and Air, Greg Bach.

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Coming up on this show, Matt Randolph, also known as Mr. Global.

Mondays with Mr. Global, he is going to be back after the 9.30 news.

Donald Trump, of course, promised that energy prices would be cut by half.

Cutting half.

Cutting

Greg Bach

half.

Jane Matenaer

Cutting half.

Everything is going to be great.

Everything is wonderful.

Greg Bach

His

Jane Matenaer

energy is going to be so

Greg Bach

cheap.

They'll be giving gas away to people by, here's your free gas.

It's so cheap.

Here's your free

Jane Matenaer

energy.

It's so cheap.

That doesn't seem to be the case right now.

And Drill Baby Drill and all of that and Cole is back and everything is dandy.

Maybe not so much.

We're going to talk to Matt Randolph, who does actually own a gas company.

He lives in Oklahoma.

He's been in

Greg Bach

oil and gas for over 30 years.

He is a certified oil and gas expert.

Not just a guy who says, I know a lot.

It's a process you have to go through to get certified by a, it's a thing.

He knows his stuff and we and his YouTube page is going to be linked in the show notes.

So you can see all the videos he posts about all the people out there who think they know about gas and oil.

And he just, it's so wonderful politely.

Jane Matenaer

He is

Greg Bach

very polite.

That's them straight.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah.

In hour number two, right after the 10 o'clock news, I want to talk about Scott Bassent who is all over the talk shows yesterday.

He of course is the head of the treasury and.

He's also just a lowly soybean farmer.

Greg, did you know that?

He's a farm boy.

Just a regular guy.

He feels soybean farmers pain.

We're going to talk about that.

Yeah.

Kicking off hour number two.

We're going to talk about SNAP benefits coming to an end.

I've seen a lot of people on social media over the weekend who are just delighted.

Delighted.

Greg Bach

Yeah, they're lazy moochers.

Lazy moochers.

Lazy moochers.

Seen some, definite some racist and racial language being used in their celebration.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

We'll talk about that after 10 o'clock.

Last half an hour of the show, as we always do, we will lighten it up with a segment we call Audio Sorbet, where we get away from the news, talk about lighter, sillier things just so we can all breathe for a moment, or to talk about going retro.

Going retro

Greg Bach

for some for some what for some seems retro and for others seems like well yesterday It's what it's been my house for 30 years So

Jane Matenaer

things that are are back.

Yeah, things are back that were once gone and

Greg Bach

never thought would be coming

Jane Matenaer

back Seriously, so we'll talk about that after 10 30 and then we'll wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing We're doing a Halloween themed week

Yeah, for the tis bets today.

It is the itsy-bitsy spiders Edition stay tuned for that wanted to start off with this though and this broke on Friday I think because we didn't have a chance to talk about it before elected officials object as FEMA denies Wisconsin a flood disaster aid state and local governments objecting Friday to the Trump administration's decision denying additional disaster help to for infrastructure

Indoor grant Milwaukee, Ozaki, Washington, and Waukesha counties after the flooding in August, over 1,800 homes were damaged or destroyed.

An estimated $34 million in damage to public infrastructure.

Roads and bridges from David Crawley, Milwaukee County Executive.

Roads and bridges that our residents rely on sustained substantial damage

Public building and facilities not only washed away, but in some cases with significant mold, our parks and our trails were damaged for the short term as well as the long term and the list goes on and on.

So we did get some aid from FEMA, but as far as helping with these infrastructure things, FEMA's like, yeah, no, no, you don't need it.

Greg Bach

No, this is.

This is a new avenue for America, usually when things, and this was unheard of for Southeast from Wisconsin.

This kind of rainfall, this flood.

I in my lifetime have never seen anything this destructive.

And in any other time, a year ago, if this would have happened, even in the midst of what was an election, we were days away from an election a year ago, President Biden would have made sure we recovered.

President Biden,

all presidents before that would make sure that these states were covered.

That's just what you do.

There's the money there to help.

And now we're being denied.

Other states are being denied.

This is where we live now.

A lot of blue states are being denied.

I think honestly, so I mean, let me, I want to look that up.

But it's

This doesn't help anything or anyone.

No, it's it's all put it's pushed on the narrative

Jane Matenaer

states got to step up Well, and that yes, and that is what Trump said going even leading up to the election that states need to handle more of this themselves Yeah, stop coming to the federal government for help when there's a natural disaster.

That's not our job

Greg Bach

That's what they said I think that the states put you know our tax dollars go into that and you know, it's it's an investment in

in a program that doles out money for the places that need it's like it's not like you created the money it's not new money that came out of nowhere this is money that's paid by the taxpayers by the states and supposed to be in a pot ready for usage when it's needed and now you're saying we don't we can't help you

Jane Matenaer

bunk in a letter to governor evers femus said while the impact to individuals and households was significant based on early damage assessments quote

It has been determined that the public assistance program is not warranted, unquote.

Evers, responding, denying federal assistance doesn't just delay recovery.

It sends a message to our communities there on their own.

The Trump administration doesn't think over 26 million in damages to infrastructure is worthy of their help.

I couldn't disagree more.

Greg Bach

Wisconsin, Maryland, Vermont, Washington, Michigan.

and Arkansas, all states that were denied FEMA money.

Arkansas is the

Jane Matenaer

outlier there.

Greg Bach

Well, so is Michigan, Michigan.

Well, Michigan and us, we all voted for him.

That's true.

But he doesn't like Governor Evers.

He doesn't.

And I guess he, I'm not sure whether he likes Gretchen Whitmer or not.

I'm not sure where they fall on the scale, but Wisconsin, Arkansas, Michigan, all voted for him.

And we got denied.

And again, it's this thing of

Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

The government can't be here to help you.

Well, we're not asking for $10 billion.

We're asking for a nominal amount of money that works with what has happened and what needs to be done to fix these.

And this is the money that we have put in as a state.

So I guess you could call, I mean, please excuse the pun, but literally a rainy day fund.

We're not asking for...

An exorbitant amount of money.

This isn't 26 million isn't that much and I know two people who were denied FEMA funds period like the stuff we did get they were they were denied flat out

Jane Matenaer

Senator Tammy Baldwin Said that no community can pick up these pieces alone Wisconsinites need support so they can rebuild.

I hope my Republican colleagues

Will join me in calling on the Trump administration to step up to the plate and be here for Wisconsin communities left in the lurch Oh, come on Wisconsin Republicans would never criticize the Trump administration over anything No, even if their own constituents are the ones who get hurt and I'm really

Greg Bach

I'm sorry, but

I'm getting tired of Democratic lawmakers using that line.

I'm hoping that are Republicans dot dot dot.

They're not going to help.

They're not going to do, and I hate saying that, but they have no incentive to do so.

In fact, they have everything to say, don't do it because if they do something, which smacks of indifference and or criticism of the Trump administration, they're going to be in trouble as well.

And that's for it.

And I will say this.

$123 million, that's not a lot for the federal government.

And we do have $4 billion in surplus money that we could dole out as well.

But I mean, hold on, I just got a call from Robin Voss.

He said, oh, he's laughing.

Oh, is he laughing?

And

Greg Bach

he hung up on me.

Yeah.

So actually Wisconsin could cover it, but we won't because Madison hates spending money on anything, especially its people, unless it's a tax break.

Unless it's a tax break or a tax refund.

I'm checking the

Jane Matenaer

mail.

That is it.

That is it in the Republican playbook, our tax cuts for rich people.

Greg Bach

My vote.wi.gov, call your state representatives right now and tell them.

And I don't care if you don't live in the Milwaukee southeastern Wisconsin area, tell them that they need to get on board with pushing the administration to fund this recovery because this has effects on Wisconsin.

Because the Northwoods might be the next thing that gets a heavy snowfall.

Maybe it could be rain.

Maybe it's Green Bay that gets, I don't know.

I'm not saying I want any of those things, but what I'm saying is that when one area suffers, we can all suffer because they will deny it for everyone.

And it doesn't matter if your region voted for him because this whole state went for Donald Trump and we still got denied.

So call them my vote.wi.gov.

Look up your representatives.

Tell them that we need to get FEMA money because that is what we pay into.

Jane Matenaer

And tell our Republican friends in the House that they should end the government shutdown and bring back Democrats to negotiate over health care.

Because that's what this shutdown is about.

It's about health care.

By the way, Representative Kalen Haywood, a Democrat from Milwaukee, talking about FEMA not giving Wisconsin all the money that it asked for after the August floods, pointed out that SNAP is on the verge of drying up, and we're gonna get to that next hour.

Communities, meanwhile, left to rebuild infrastructure on their own.

It's disappointing the White House is choosing a $300 million ballroom ego project over the well-being

of the people in Wisconsin.

Now, granted, the big billionaire ballroom is allegedly being funded through donors.

And the price keeps going

Greg Bach

up, by the way.

Did you notice that?

Jane, I was going to say the price was originally $200 million.

Now it's up to $300 million.

It's going to be half a billion dollars, if not more.

And I will continue saying this from the top of the mountain.

And please feel free to use these words as well.

As long as the people who are quote-unquote donating to the ballroom fund are doing that, those are millionaires, multimillionaires, billionaires.

Those are people who enjoy the tax breaks of the wealthy class.

They are getting tax money back or not having to pay it.

Therefore, in my opinion, I'm paying them because they're getting my money that I put in the system.

Therefore, I am paying for this no matter what because they are utilizing their tax breaks to give

Big donations and it's all it's all a slush fund in my opinion We're just being turned into one big slush fund for the billionaires in this country much and you're paying into it and guess what if you voted for Donald Trump You're still paying for it too.

You're just as on the hook as we are It doesn't matter the color of your flag.

It doesn't matter the region of your country It matters only one thing.

Are you rich enough to get an appointment with him?

No, then you don't matter

Jane Matenaer

And that really is what the fight is.

Yeah, as much as they would like us to be fighting each other Yes,

Greg Bach

and we are and it's they're doing a great job of fostering that and

Jane Matenaer

we are no it's about the ultra wealthy and the rest of us pretty much By the way, Carol from walkie-shot texting and listening in WA UK says don't forget about the 40 billion dollars for Argentina and Nothing for Wisconsin,

Greg Bach

which a month ago was 20 billion.

Yeah, now it's 40 billion now It's 40 billion and by the way

300 million for a ballroom, 40 billion for, but no money for

Jane Matenaer

healthcare.

172 million for Kristi Noem's planes.

The

Greg Bach

statue, the Garden of Heroes.

All the

Jane Matenaer

Garden of Heroes.

Greg Bach

But absolutely no money for healthcare, no money for SNAP, no money for Medicare, Medicaid, nothing like that.

It's all gonna be cut, because we're going broke, folks.

But the Trump administration

Jane Matenaer

has their eye on the important things.

Absolutely.

Greg Bach

Trump's

Jane Matenaer

ego projects.

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Coming up later on today.

The Todd all the show from two to four PM.

He will kick off the show recapping the weekend headlines.

Talk a little bit about that.

We beat our ex-boyfriend.

We beat our ex-boyfriend.

Greg Bach

Only you call him their ex-boyfriend.

Oh,

Jane Matenaer

I am not the only one who calls Aaron Rodgers.

I am not the only one who calls him our ex-boyfriend.

Okay.

Maybe I am.

Yeah, I don't care.

Okay.

Yes.

So join Todd.

Talk a little bit about our win.

Over Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers.

I am also joining Todd now on Mondays nice at 2 30 So we'll kick things around and we literally just chat that's great about stuff About really important things.

Yeah, so I'll be on with Todd today at 2 30 in the three o'clock hour another edition of what's worse Today, they're talking Wisconsin meets

Okay.

That should be interesting.

Greg Bach

All

Jane Matenaer

right.

I'm going to be listening to that one.

So join Todd this afternoon from two to four PM across our fabulous network.

This is from the Wisconsin Examiner.

Henry Redmond has the byline.

Gableman could be on the hook for $48,000 to cover costs for investigating him.

Former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman could be forced to pay over 48 grand to cover the cost of the state.

Office of Lawyer Regulations investigation into him for his behavior during the search for cheaters in the 2020 presidential election which brought up Zippo Nothing zero our two million dollar investment in Michael Gabelman found no proof.

Yeah, no evidence of

Greg Bach

voter

Jane Matenaer

fraud.

Greg Bach

And you don't have to go any further for that information than Robin Voss who admitted that there was nothing found.

He did.

Yeah, he did.

So here is my

Jane Matenaer

question.

Should Michael Gabelman pay up $48,000 for these costs?

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Should Michael Gabelman pay as part of the review?

It resulted in 10 counts of misconduct being filed against Gabelman.

Late last month, he did agree to have his law license suspended for three years because of those charges.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

That's a huge fee to getting a law license and suspended is takes a lot more work than people think it does.

It does.

It really does a lot of work.

And honestly, Jane, I'm going to open up my civic media app right now.

I'm going to call the show and tell you what I think.

Oh, yeah, he should have to pay up.

Period.

Get the civic media app.

It's free.

Jane Matenaer

855-752-4842.

Should Michael Gable and who spent

$2 million worth of our money, looking for fraud in the 2020 election, none of which was found.

Should he have to pay $48,000?

855-752-4842.

I would agree with your call there, Greg Bach.

Yes, I think he should have to pay for it.

Greg Bach

I think that honestly,

Well, no, I don't think you should have to.

Robin Voss put forth the money.

I just feel like $2 million of our money wasted on this and also employing the services of a man who was wildly under qualified to investigate this in the first place.

Let's just start there.

But also the fact that nothing was found and we're still $2 million on the hook for it.

And then, yeah, he should be paying this entire thing.

Yeah, Michael give me should be paying that $48,000.

Yes, and it's it's funny to me that he's still he's still how many years?

Three four years after the fact still in the headlines.

Yeah on this.

Yeah

Jane Matenaer

Well again It's a lot of money.

It's a lot of money and I'm sure Michael Gableman and even Robin boss would love for us never to talk about this again.

Mm-hmm Because it's got to be kind of embarrassing.

Well, I don't think

Well, that's it.

That's wrong.

Greg Bach

No, Rodney Ross doesn't feel embarrassed anymore or

Jane Matenaer

shame.

Yeah, there's none of that.

Greg Bach

If you bring it up, he will simply just divert the topic to something else and blame Democrats.

That's what they do now.

Anytime you try to hold Republicans responsible or show accountability, it's always how it's somebody else.

It's not even Democrats sometimes.

It's just always someone else's fault.

And that's one of the things that really infuriates me because I was always raised to believe that Republicans were the party of personal responsibility.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, that kind of went away 10 years

Greg Bach

ago.

And that is, that is laughably gone now.

Jane Matenaer

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Richard, you get the last word before we go to the bottom of the hour news.

What do you want to say real quickly, please?

I think he should be punished more because this is a manufactured thing he did.

Yeah known way better with his experience and time in law It's really outrageous

Jane Matenaer

Appreciate it Richard.

Thank you.

I agree.

I think I think he should have to pay up

Greg Bach

Yeah, absolutely.

And Jack from Merrimack, a listening WAU case says, but it's much more important to give trillions in tax welfare to quote job creators and hundreds of millions to Trump himself because the DOJ actually showed criminality or a few hundred million to the Imperial Epstein ballroom needs the gold trim or billion to make Argentina grab.

Yeah, it's, it's, this is all, but like all the way, anyway, they can get money.

I mean, I mean, $2 million is take $2 million to make that kind of investigation.

I'm, I don't want to throw conspiracies and I'm not trying to right here, but

Where did all that two million go?

Jane Matenaer

Well, and I think, I see, and I think there's a whole bunch of stuff within there that I would love to know more details about some of the things that were coming out while that investigation was going on.

I mean, they didn't even keep ledgers, the Gabelman investigation.

It was a mess.

Greg Bach

No, they don't.

Jane Matenaer

It was a mess

Greg Bach

because they are, they are once again, wildly under qualified to do any of these things.

You wanted another piece of proof.

Look at who is trying to.

Prosecute Leticia James in DC, a woman who has never, ever been

Jane Matenaer

in court.

Good morning.

Welcome.

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It is Mondays with Mr. Global Matt

Good morning.

How are you?

I'm great.

How are

you?

Jane Matenaer

We're good, Matt.

Good to see you.

Thanks for joining us.

Let's start off the top with gas prices.

Gas prices, according to the president, are down.

Everything is down.

Gas prices are down.

Life is good, Matt.

I filled up yesterday.

They're not down.

I know, right?

Right?

I mean, I did research yesterday, I went to the gas station yesterday and I filled up and I paid cash and it was still- What's cash?

It was still like 30 cents higher than it was last week.

Now I know there was a fire at a refinery in Indiana, correct?

Yes.

Jane Matenaer

And so that is having an impact probably especially here in the Midwest.

Definitely the upper Midwest, yeah.

But you know, gas prices are-

not really lower anywhere else in the country either.

They're about the same as they were last year this time.

I believe they're 305 or six a gallon today on a national average from AAA.

That's who I use.

And if you would have asked me a year ago, you know, what are gas prices going to be in a year, I would have told you 305, 306 right now.

Like, you know, it's everything that's happening has been predicted

By all of this before the election regardless of who the president was so

Jane Matenaer

well, and it's important to remind folks as well because I want to say maybe a month ago month and a half ago prices did did start coming down But that happens every year Right as we get away from the summer

yeah, we

Jane Matenaer

get away from the summer blend and we go back to regular gas blend

Yeah, we swapped over to Winter Blend and, you know, prices fall as they do every year.

That's why people think, you know, prices fall right before an election.

every time there's an election we swap to winter blend literally 45 60 days before and everyone thinks that elections are rigged with gas prices but

Jane Matenaer

it's completely unrelated there is no relation whatsoever prices tend to go up in spring as we switch over to that spring blend and then they tend to come down and fall

As we go back to the regular blend, this has happened year after year after year after year.

And people still use that as the indicator of where the economy is.

And it's just not a good bellwether.

Right.

No, it's not.

Jane Matenaer

Well, the president promised us Matt that when he got into office, we were in a drill baby drill and we were go everything was going to be dandy.

We have a cut from Doug Burgum, the secretary of the interior Kelvin.

Can we play that clip from Mr. Bergen plays on Fox.

Trickle Minerals China today controls 85 to 100% of all the refining on the 20.

most important rare earth minerals that are essential for defense, essential for automotive, essential for high tech in our country.

If they have a stranglehold on that marketplace, we have to break it.

President Trump knows that, and we have to get back to mining in our country.

It's not just drill, baby drill, it's mine, baby, mine with President Trump.

I mean,

Greg Bach

he is definitely mine, baby, mine, because it's all his.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, pretty much.

How is that going, Matt?

From from where from your vantage point drill baby drill and mine baby mine.

Oh

Neither are really going anywhere

Jane Matenaer

What happened what happened to drill baby drill prices were to be down the energy prices were to be down by 50% Yeah,

well, you know shockingly companies don't produce when prices are low, you know, that's It's a big surprise to everyone, but it's true

It's absolutely true.

Jane Matenaer

Well, we've talked about this many times before that when when oil when oil per barrel starts to fall and it gets to around 60 bucks a barrel, that's when oil producers stop making money.

So they are less inclined to invest more money to do more drilling when they're not making money, correct?

Yeah, absolutely.

And, you know, he went to OPEC and got its oil there.

You know typical Donald Trump stuff.

Greg Bach

So yeah, if you're just joining us We're talking to Matt Randolph who is also known as mr. Global you can find him on YouTube where you put out you put out so many videos now I follow you and you are always in my feet and I'll have I'll have that link in the show notes for today I mean the question I have for you.

I mean Jane you asked it perfectly is that like, you know people want

They want gas to be cheap.

Therefore, if they see barrels of oil prices going down, they think, oh, that's wonderful.

But that isn't good for our economy.

It's not good for those companies.

It's not good for us, period.

So to see gas that's like $1.99 or less, that doesn't do the long-term good that we believe.

Because we're always told cheaper is better.

And when politicians say, we're going to lower the gas prices, which none of them can do, nobody knows actually the knock on effect.

Can you, Matt, can you talk about that?

You just said that when the barrel prices go down, they're less inclined to produce.

But what then has, well, how does that affect us as consumers then too?

Well, you know,

Saving 10 cents a gallon on gas seems like a really great thing for a lot of people.

I don't know why it's like $1.50 on a fill up.

But what you are spending, what you're really spending is, you know, so far under this administration, we've lost somewhere around 25,000 willing gas jobs and all of those, keep in mind, all of those are like six figure jobs.

These are really

high paying jobs that don't require

college educations, right?

So this is access to blue collar middle class workers to make really good money.

You know, it's one of the few places left where someone without a college degree can come in and, you know, blue collar job and make a really good living for their family.

And, you know, we're losing those jobs left and right.

It hurts manufacturing.

It hurts the steel industry.

And it's a big hit.

to our tax revenue in the united states so it's a massive ripple effect you know for every oil and gas job created in the united states i don't remember the exact number don't quote me on this but i think it's like 2.8 other jobs are created you know

as

um ancillary jobs so it is it is huge and and for me i just don't think it's worth that dollar fifty

I think that people get so excited about, especially when you're spending, you know, an extra thousand dollars a month on the other things you need to live like food and electricity.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and let's talk a little bit about electricity because that was the other big promise while among the many promises that that Donald Trump made that electricity prices were to be down 50 percent and it's going to be great.

And that is not what's happening around the country either.

People's electric bills are not going down.

Now, you know, I told people a couple of years ago that pretty soon their electric bills will be as high as their mortgage payments And they told me I was crazy, but we started seeing that a lot this summer I think we're gonna see it and of course a lot of it's weather related if we have a winter this year like we had last year if we have a cold winter we're gonna see it a lot more this winter and You know electricity prices are going through the roof due to

you know, great capacity.

And we have an administration that wants to pick your source of power for you instead of just understanding that we just need electricity regardless of where it's sourced.

We just need more of it.

And but, you know, it's not electricity prices have been coming up for a long time and everything the Trump administration is doing is only going to make that significantly worse.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and he's trying to sell killing off

you know, windmills and solar, solar arrays and stuff like that.

He's trying to sell that as a way to bring down our energy prices when actually it's doing the opposite.

As you said, you're in the oil and gas industry, but you have always been open to all forms of electricity generation.

Well, yeah, the oil and gas industry is the energy industry.

And that's all kinds of energy, whether it's, you know, oil and gas, fossil fuels, nuclear, renewable, it doesn't matter.

If you're passionate about working in the oil and gas industry because you're providing energy for people, then you should be passionate about energy in general, no matter what kind it is.

It's the way I look at it.

But obviously that's not true with everybody.

But yeah, he's doing absolutely, he's

he's going to make things significantly worse by destroying renewable projects and expanding our LNG export capacity by as much as possible.

Those two things are going to be the third and fourth whammy I would say for electricity prices for Americans.

Jane Matenaer

Well and you were talking about the grid and problems with the grid and this is something that we've talked about in Wisconsin because

There are several data centers now which want to come here.

One was rejected in one community, one was accepted in a different community, but those two are gonna be, those are massive energy sucks, those data centers, massive.

Yeah, a typical data center uses as much power as 80,000 homes.

And, you know,

As with everything else that we build in this country, as time goes by, we build it bigger and bigger and bigger.

And that means in five years from now, a data center will probably use as much power as 250,000 homes.

That's just, that's how it is in this country.

It's always bigger and bigger.

And in addition to that, there's never been a good plan or policy to really improve and expand and upgrade the grid.

The Biden administration tried with the Infrastructure Act and I think the problem there was the grid is the least profitable thing.

It takes the most investment and it's the longest return on investment.

So when you're focusing on the grid, you have to have a different plan than everything else, right?

You can give the subsidies and tax credits for renewable energy, but you have to go a different route with the grid.

You have to be much more aggressive.

you have to push a lot harder because people, if they can choose five different things to put their money in, it's not gonna be the grid.

It's never gonna be the grid, right?

And so that was sort of a failure there, not recognizing how hard it is to get people to invest in the grid.

And Donald Trump is doing nothing.

Like he's completely reversed what the Biden administration was doing, which was helping a little bit, but not enough.

Jane Matenaer

If you're just joining us, Matt Randolph is here, otherwise known as Mr. Global on Matt Nair on Air.

Jack from Miramac has been waiting very patiently.

Jack, we'll take you out right now before we go to the break.

What did you want to say?

Boy, Jack, you're going to have to call back

to have a

Jane Matenaer

real bad line.

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Sorry about that, Jack.

If you want to, if you want to try again, 855-752-4842.

That's 855-75 Civic.

Greg Bach

And one of the things I actually I want to ask you when we come back from the other side is those jobs you were just talking about all of those is something that even the Republicans aren't saying because I could see them pushing a narrative.

We're losing all these jobs because the Democrats are because of this that nothing but nobody is talking about these blue collar jobs these good paying jobs and

I would like to know more about that because that seems like that could definitely be a talking point from both sides of the aisle.

But we're not discussing that at all while we're seeing tens of thousands of people losing their jobs.

And we'll talk about that when we come back.

Jane Matenaer

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Jack from Merrimack did call back in and he's been very patient.

Good morning, Jack.

Thanks for joining us.

What do you want to say?

Good morning.

Well, first of all, I'm helping with the electric grid.

I just put solar panels on my house.

So they don't help somewhat anyway.

Good for you.

Now I hope Mr. Randolph will forgive me for this, but there is a way to stabilize or at least reduce the cost of electric production in my opinion.

And that's to only allow American produced electric production for new electric plants.

In

other words, just only approve renewable sources, solar panels, wind farms, hydro power.

Um, that that energy is not going to be shipped out of the country because it's really hard to to take a solar array and use it for somebody else's electric production.

And it's so it's not dependent on international markets.

It's not dependent on the whims of guys like Ben Solomon and Putin to who want to, you know, jack up the prices of petroleum products.

And that should at least keep the prices fluctuating as wildly as they have been.

Jane Matenaer

Appreciate it, Jack.

Thank you so much.

Mr. Global, what do you think about that?

Well, he's not wrong.

And so here's the thing.

We can dispatch and build and generate renewable electricity faster than any other kind.

80, 90 gigawatts of electricity a year in the United States with just renewable energy.

We can't do that with anything else.

So it's very fast.

The one issue is when you add renewable energy, you have to upgrade the grid a little bit because it's a different type of flow of electricity.

It is intermittent.

That doesn't mean it can't be used.

It just means you have to make changes to your grid a little bit to handle that.

But he's not wrong.

Like he's really not wrong at all.

Um, it's just not a thing I think will happen.

Right.

Anytime in the

Jane Matenaer

near future.

Yeah,

certainly not now.

And it, and that may not apply everywhere in the country.

You know, there's probably places where some other type of energy would work better, but he's not.

Like, he's not missing the mark on that.

It's simply something that's not going to happen.

You know, we don't always do what's best.

Jane Matenaer

No, we don't.

I know that's shocking.

Greg Bach

You

Jane Matenaer

always

Greg Bach

say the funniest thing, man.

We only have a couple of

Jane Matenaer

minutes left, and I really want to get to it.

This is from...

Wyoming Public Radio, Congress gave a break to coal producers.

Now Wyoming is concerned it's gonna carry the loss.

So the Trump administration gave a break to the coal industry, but what they did was lower fees for mining on public lands.

That money helps fund things in Wyoming.

So they've lowered the fees for these mining companies.

But now the state is struggling to pay infrastructure and all that stuff because they depended on those fees That's not working out so well is it?

Not only is it not working out.

I don't know if you know about this but in Montana and the powder River Basin the BLM just tried.

Oh, I lost my Lost my camera.

There we go The BLM just had a lease sale for coal, right?

They got one bid, $186,000 bid for 167 million tons of coal.

So to put that in perspective, the Navajo Energy Authority bid less than a penny per ton of coal.

That is over 100 times less than the last lease sale they had.

Basically, coal companies aren't willing to pay anything

for more coal on public land, even with these new incentives that the government has put out.

I thought that was a fascinating story when I read that.

Jane Matenaer

Is it just because they don't feel it's worth the investment?

Well, they have an enormous amount of coal, probably more coal than they're going to need to get them to the end of coal.

coal is plentiful in the United States and they're just not willing to spend any money on more coal because they see the end of coal coming.

But this, look, I would pay $186,000 for 167 million tons of coal.

I would do that every day.

It

seems like a pretty good deal.

That is

like a half a penny a ton or whatever that works out to is, but it really shows you even how

coal companies are viewing coal themselves.

They're not willing to buy more coal, even with the new incentives from the federal government.

So anything the federal government is, any incentives they're giving these companies is there's absolutely no return

Greg Bach

on

investment.

And like you said, it's gonna cost these states a

Jane Matenaer

fortune.

in Wyoming that uh yeah we're we're struggling now it's it's they got all of these millions of dollars from these coal companies leasing on public lands and now they don't have to pay that anymore and now they're struggling with uh with money it's called i don't know it's called consequences and looking long term down the road and what could i what could happen if i do a and then b might happen and then c might happen and then d might happen

Greg Bach

And they're also in a place now where their state legislature and their governor and no one can criticize the Trump administration because if they do, they'll get in trouble and probably have things cut from their budget aid withheld.

There are consequences there, but.

Jane Matenaer

Follow him on YouTube, Mr. Global, Matt Randolph.

Thank you so very much for your time.

It's always a pleasure.

Matt, really appreciate it.

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Mm hmm.

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Greg Bach

Carmella, we saw your text.

We will address that later as well.

And I have a small spider story to say as well, because... Traveling with you?

Yeah.

The little

Jane Matenaer

engine that could, I will say.

But yeah, we'll talk more about that later.

That's coming up later on.

One of us started off though, Scott Bassent.

Oh, that guy?

Yeah.

He's the head of our treasury.

And he was all over the network shows yesterday, especially.

talking about our soybean farmers and how China has bought zero soybeans from our soybean farmers.

Jane, how

Greg Bach

can a guy who's the Treasury Secretary and worth over a half a billion dollars have anything to do with soybean farms?

Jane, how can even identify with the plight of the

Jane Matenaer

soybean farmer?

Funny you should ask that, Greg Bach.

We have a clip from Mr. Besant.

Calvin, can we play that clip, please?

From Scott Besant yesterday.

Well, Martha, in case you don't know it, I'm actually a soybean farmer.

So I have felt this pain, too.

And there are a couple of things happening here.

One, the Chinese have substantially dropped their purchases to almost zero.

So they unfortunately have been using American farmers who are amongst...

President Trump's biggest supporters.

I think he had more than 90% support.

And then this was one of the biggest crops in 20 or 30 years.

So it was a perfect storm.

But I think we have addressed the farmer's concerns.

And I'm not going to get ahead of the president, but I believe when the announcement of the deal with China is made public that our soybean farmers will feel very good about.

what's going on both for this season and the coming seasons for several.

Jane Matenaer

So things are gonna be good.

And again, you know, Donald Trump is gonna be meeting with Xi, President Xi of China when he's overseas this week.

Maybe there is some great deal coming.

It seems a little too late.

I mean, things are harvested already.

Greg Bach

Well, also the soybean problem, if I'm not mistaken, it's also from the original.

Yeah, the first time around.

Jane Matenaer

They lost market shares after his first administration

Greg Bach

that never came back.

It never came back.

This is not brand new.

This is something that the Biden administration was trying to repair.

This is something the Trump administration could have repaired in its first year, but it didn't.

And now our soybean farmers are absolutely null and void.

They have no market share.

And I want to make something very clear because it had to be explained to me by Pam Yankee as well as Will Westmoreland, is that any bailout money that farmers get is not going to go to flush their bank account full of cash.

It's not going to make them whole.

It won't make them whole.

It will only pay on their debts.

Right.

That's what that money is going to do.

Money they didn't want in the first place.

They want...

Farmers don't want a bailout.

They want markets.

That's what they want That is what all the farmers we talked about.

They always say the same thing They do not want bailouts.

They want markets and this soybean and Look, I'm not a farmer.

I never will claim to be I would be terrible working at a farm.

I'd be crying by 10 I'm hungry hard work But for him to say I'm a soybean farmer is so disingenuous and so offensive and I don't get offended by a lot but him sitting there with his

probably a suit that costs more than I make in a year, saying, well, I'm a soybean farmer too.

So I get it.

Jane Matenaer

Someone actually asked Grock.

That's Elon's Elmo's chatbot.

Yeah.

Grock about whether or not Scott Bassent is a soybean farmer.

Little difference than actually being out in the fields.

Yeah, Scott Bassent is a hedge fudge manager.

who owns $25 million worth of farmland in North Dakota.

So he bought up a whole bunch of farmland and he leases it to soybean farmers.

So Scott Bassin is not suffering.

By any stretch of the imagination, his net worth is estimated at $500 million over $500 million.

So when he says, oh, I'm a soybean farmer too.

Yeah.

No, you're not.

Greg Bach

I'm feeling the pains.

No, you're not.

No, yeah, you're not.

You probably don't feel any pain because you don't feel any.

This is really just, I think Jane, the thing that really angers me is the fact that

These individuals get to say things like this, I'm a soybean farmer too, and there are people out there who say, I didn't even know.

What is he going through?

Right, it must be tough.

He could buy anything, he could buy all the soybeans in the world probably.

I don't know, it just is really upsetting because I feel like one side of it, our farmers are being taken down the road again.

And we don't even talk about the non-existent farm bill anymore.

That's almost laughable.

Seriously.

We're talking about market share.

We're talking about money.

We're talking about them surviving the next harvest season.

We're talking about their kids possibly being the sixth or seventh generation.

But then there's the other side where I see people on social media saying, well, they get what they deserve.

It's like, that's the wrong narrative too.

We have to work together.

This is not about

farmer versus city folk.

This is about class.

This is about money.

This is about being able to afford to live a life.

This is not about me or you or Darren Von Ruden from the Farmers Union of Wisconsin saying, I really would love to be a billionaire.

I don't know anybody who wants to do that.

They just want to be able to pay their bills.

Take a vacation retire and live a good life because they have done what America asked for us to do which is work hard show up Complain as little as possible, but it just feels like Someone like Scott percent is using that sort of empathy and sympathy that people have in America to say oh he gets it Yeah, he gets my play he doesn't know he really doesn't his kids his grandkids his great-great-grandkids will never understand the plight because they are

We're

Jane Matenaer

talking about Scott Bassent, our Treasury Secretary making the rounds on the talk shows yesterday, saying about our soybean farmers.

Well, he's a soybean farmer too, so he understands what they're going through.

Hedge fund analyst Karen Brown said, quote, Bassent owns up to $25 million worth of North Dakota land, bringing in $100,000 to a million in yearly rental income.

By the way, he was supposed to divest those assets.

He didn't meet the deadline.

So he still has those assets.

And by the way, when we're talking about Argentina and the $40 billion we're using to bail out Argentina in their economy, Scott's got some good buddies who bought a lot of Argentine debt.

Isn't that interesting how that works?

And our bailing out Argentina helps Scott be sense friends.

make bank on their investment.

Isn't that nice how that works?

I'm surprised that he even said he would

Greg Bach

divest.

Do they even bother doing that anymore?

No.

Because back in the day, if I'm not mistaken, it wasn't a law.

It was an expectation.

You're supposed to put your money in a blind trust, divest yourself out of the company, your kids or whomever runs it.

Give us your taxes.

Those were all expectations from people who are running for office and if that person won the people who then work in that office are expected to do and because We don't hold those politicians accountable with any sorts of

There's no beef.

There's no consequence.

So therefore they don't have to do it.

So anytime someone says, Scott, why haven't you divested?

Oh, we're not talking about that right now.

Exactly.

It's not important.

It's not important.

You know what's important?

I'm a soybean farmer, Jane.

But you're not a soybean farmer.

But Jane, I own land.

We're soybean farmers.

At best, I'm soybean adjacent.

Thank you.

He is definitely soybean adjacent.

Yes.

Yes.

We're almost, you know who is it?

The markets for American farmers.

Thank you very much.

I did that.

But it's, it's,

Jane Matenaer

it's infuriating.

Jack from Miramac, this is a great point, texting in on WAUK.

If Scott Besant really wants to help out his soybean farmer constituents, he could simply refund the rental fees on his $25 million worth of farmland.

That's a great idea.

There are

Greg Bach

Definitely ways that this government can help people by Refunding tax break.

I mean there are so many ways and as I said before Jane It would require a small percentage of the billions of dollars if not trillions of dollars that these these Ultra wealthy people are going to get they could simply just say we're gonna take five percent of the entire thing

and we'll give it out in forms of tax cuts, tax breaks, and that will keep the people satiated, and we'll still be offensively rich.

Yes.

Really, really, really rich.

But they don't do that, and then these Scott Besense, Mike Johnson, Donald Trump, whoever you're talking, Ron Johnson, they always spin it to, well, the Democrats, dot, dot, dot, Antifa, dot, dot, dot, dissenters, dot, dot, dot, and people eat it up like...

Eat it up like candy and that's the problem is trying to get people to understand that these decisions they're making it will affect you It's gonna affect all of us regardless of who you voted for my vote dot wi dot gov folks I know who your representatives are I get new a scree sometimes I get very anxious and angry and very whatever but Make your voice heard they still can listen to our voices.

Jane Matenaer

Yes, they can whether they want to or not And we always encourage you to be polite if you're gonna reach out to your lawmaker if you're gonna call them

keep in mind that the person answering the phone is a much, they're far, far down on the scale of responsibility and, and, and abilities to change things.

Greg Bach

I read a really cool post the other day says, if you want to try to get a little more action done, reach out and find out who their legislative directors are.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah.

All right.

That's your homework assignment.

There you go.

When we return snap benefits, they're going to be going away.

Republicans say,

It's all the Democrats fault.

They really care about people eating.

And some of them are like, good.

Not so much others.

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Jane Matenaer

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Nightlight with Peach Swabba.

He's kicking off Halloween week.

with Dustin Mack from History Museum at the Castle.

Oh, it should be creepy.

And at 705, he'll talk to A. Mill Barrelott, Creative Director for the Ghost Boat in Wisconsin Dells.

Okay.

Ghost Boat.

Greg Bach

Oh, I saw an advertisement for that this weekend.

We went to Madison and we saw Ghost Boat and I'm like, who's driving?

If it's a ghost?

If I walk on a boat and it's a ghost boat and there's a human driving like, give me my money buddy.

It's like when I see camouflage out in the world, like it's obviously not doing its job.

Get your money back.

Anyway, join Pete.

That's some, that's some audio sorbet from start to finish.

Right there.

That's a great way to wind down your day.

Jane Matenaer

Pete Schwabba.

Pete Schwabba

Greg Bach

is a great way.

It's just so fun.

Yeah, it really is.

Jane Matenaer

Absolutely.

Join Pete starting at six o'clock, six to eight night light with Pete Schwabba right here across the Civic Media Radio Network.

Want to spend a couple of minutes on this from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and Kleber has the byline snap.

Funding in Wisconsin is running out.

Farmers and businesses brace for impact.

The federal food assistance program will run out by November

If federal officials don't figure a way to keep this going, almost 700,000 Wisconsinites who rely on SNAP will be affected by this.

The state provides about 113 million a month in food share benefits, all of that funded by the federal government.

If the Fed doesn't come up with a measure to solve the government shutdown, that money runs out November 1st, affecting recipients and local farmers.

Greg Bach

Well, luckily, Jane,

Wisconsin has a four billion dollar surplus.

Yeah, which

Jane Matenaer

we won't

Greg Bach

use and I would like to I would like to ask Matt Smith of WISN upfront to ask State Senator Mary Felskowski her thoughts on what the state could do to step up to maybe cover it for right now because we have all this money We do and we have people who need to eat We need people who need to buy their food and they're gonna lose their snap benefits.

Thanks Derek Van Orton, but State Senator Mary Felskowski, you tell us your thoughts on the state stepping up to help out

Calvin, can you play that clip, please?

It now says food share benefits come November will run out 700,000 Wisconsinites, $114 million a month from the federal government.

Is there any scenario that you see that the legislature would step in if this is

prolonged?

You know, 114 million is a lot of money.

And my heart goes out to people.

But this is a federal issue.

And I don't see the state having the resources to do that.

I just wish that the Democrats would sign this continuing resolution and vote for it.

And let's move on.

Jane Matenaer

OK,

so

Jane Matenaer

thanks.

That's enough, Mary.

The reason the Democrats

Don't want to sign off on this.

Mm-hmm is because the deal that they agreed to earlier Yeah, after they agreed to that deal is when the Republicans gutted Medicare.

Yeah, and Now they are trying to save the ACA subsidies which are going to go away Which affects a lot of a whole lot affects of a whole lot of us

a lot of people are on the

Jane Matenaer

ACA.

Yeah

Jane Matenaer

This is what Democrats are holding out for.

Republicans are like, come back, sign the deal and then we'll talk about it.

Then we'll find a way to fund it.

Should they trust them?

Greg Bach

No, absolutely not.

And it's not a clean CR.

They keep saying it's a clean CR, but there's spending in there that doesn't need to be done.

It's just to give more money to security as they want.

All this money to security, tons of money to ice, tons of tons of money to DOD, tons of money to things that doesn't need it right now.

It's not so clean as they'd like you to believe.

And the Democrats are fighting to make sure that people who are on the ACA aren't going to have their premiums tripled.

in

a

Greg Bach

matter of a few days, honestly.

Absolutely.

So yeah, thank you, Mary Felskowski for doing and saying nothing.

You are not going to help us.

We have $4 billion for at least say, say, we'll fund it through the end of this year.

At least.

But no, it's not, it's not our problem.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and consider Mike Johnson, his last week, he already told House members not to come back.

Yeah.

So this is what week five they've been off.

I think they've worked like 14 days in the last month and a half house members.

Yeah Yeah, Mike Moses Mike now says this morning snap benefits are a unique situation I got a summary of the legal analysis The contingency funds are not legally available to cover the benefits right now

Well, why can't we get another melon to donate a couple hundred million dollars like they did to pay the military?

Greg Bach

Yeah, we'll get that this week as well.

The DoD has taken

Jane Matenaer

donations, I guess.

Yeah, apparently.

And I was shocked over the weekend by the amount of comments I saw about people celebrating folks losing their SNAP benefits.

Please keep in mind that a lot of folks who work for big, really rich companies like Walmart,

Mm-hmm you snap Because they don't get paid enough.

Yeah, but they're there a lot of working people Mm-hmm who get snap benefits?

Greg Bach

Yeah

Jane Matenaer

Because they don't make enough money and you know who fights the hardest to get right about raising the minimum wage Companies like Walmart

Greg Bach

And also, we'll be talking about this because the snap benefit loss, food share loss is not going to go away anytime soon.

But there is also a baseline investment in grocery shopping that will go away when people can't afford to buy groceries.

Though people who use snap benefits to buy groceries, if they can't buy groceries, the grocery industry will also take a huge, huge hit.

Farmers are going to be hit by this too.

It's going to hit all sectors.

Public, private, farm.

It's gonna hit the suburban urban.

It's gonna be hitting us all again.

This is not about red versus blue This is about the ultra wealthy taking our money and leaving us to fight for scraps and fight each other

Jane Matenaer

News is coming up next and then we're gonna lighten it up when we come back with some audio survey Stay close.

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This is the portion of the show.

that we call Audio Sorbet, where we like to get away from the news, talk about sillier things.

And we like to clean your ears with fun.

Exactly the official title of Audio Sorbet.

So we were kicking this around before we got on the air this morning, which is where these always come from.

And a good friend of mine, her daughter is 22.

She's a sophomore in college.

And she and her friend are buying a house.

These are some really organized girls, man.

Greg Bach

Wait, I'm sorry.

I didn't know this portion of the story They are soft boards in college and they're buying a house.

You're buying a house together That's amazing and and can I just say to you to say to your friend to say to those individuals?

they should Document this process because I feel like young people buying a house can talk to young people who want to buy a house better than Because we were at this conversation last week with

some people

Greg Bach

in the in the building.

Yep

And everything I feel like I'm saying, I'm like, old man talking.

But I feel if two people in their early 20s are doing this process, one, it is achievable.

It's not impossible to buy a house.

It's not easy.

It's not easy.

It was never easy to buy a house though, really granted.

But if two people who are of your generation can say you can do it, we're not super rich, but here's the process.

I think that's very, very important.

They need something to talk

Jane Matenaer

about.

Well, these girls are pretty amazing and have worked.

I mean, they're, again, they're sophomores in college.

I think they both have full-time jobs.

So they're very motivated kids.

But anyway, so as they are preparing to buy a house and move in and start all that stuff, I'm gonna get, I was going, and I'm trying to clean out stuff and just do some purging.

So they're taking all my VHS tapes.

They are so excited about VHS tapes.

They're 22 years old.

Okay, maybe they

Greg Bach

shouldn't talk

Jane Matenaer

to anyone

Greg Bach

about anything.

I'm sorry,

Jane Matenaer

I'm sorry, folks.

I just, it got us talking about what is retro and what is cool and what is retro that's coming back.

Apparently VHS tapes are back.

Yeah.

They're, they're desired again.

What else?

is a retro that's coming back 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 is it a board game is it some other electronic thing i mean albums vinyl has been back certainly the last 10 years

Greg Bach

honestly

vinyl really never went anywhere.

It just was not in popular opinion, but there were always those people.

We know the vinyl heads.

Hey, man, you got to listen to vinyl.

It's the only way you can.

You can listen to that.

You can really appreciate that.

You can appreciate that 76 basement amplifier that they say, I don't care.

You know, okay.

Get all the VHS you want.

Get all of the CDs you want.

Get all the albums you want.

I hate moving.

Moving is a drag.

And the two worst things to move are books and or media And if you have an albums and CDs are among them mean cassette tapes adorable, but But albums like I got rid of I got rid of I think I had like 300 albums at one point Wow, I listened to none of them I know and I got rid of 95% of them because I listened to none of them and I just hate boxing them up

and moving them, they're so heavy, and it's just a tedious task.

So, sorry, it sent me almost into audio gripe.

And if you want to play the thing, Calvin, you can because I'm griping right now.

For me, I don't understand the appeal of VHS personally.

I'm

Jane Matenaer

not, I don't, I don't get it.

Yeah.

But hey, they're, they want them.

Yeah.

Like, great, I'll box them up.

You're gonna have all of them.

Yeah.

855-752-4842, what is retro?

That's coming back.

King Rat on the live stream says it seems like CD players are having a resurgence.

Greg Bach

We were talking about this before the show, and I've heard, I've seen videos on social media, and I know that's my first mistake, where people will discuss the quality of sound of CDs versus MP3s.

And when I was growing up, tapes and vinyl were the thing.

And CDs were the cool thing, but there was a complaint that the compression rates on CDs were too much and kind of it scooped out low range on albums to get that warmth.

Everyone talks about warmth when they talk about vinyl.

Oh, is that

Jane Matenaer

what it is?

Greg Bach

I guess.

I don't know.

So

Jane Matenaer

vinyl is warmer, a warmer sound.

Sure.

I know.

It's audio files.

It's a whole different vocabulary.

Well,

Greg Bach

honestly, Jane, when it comes down to any sort of thing, whether you're talking about audio, you're talking about beer, you're talking about...

motorcycles, watches, cars, and I'll say it, dudes.

Not saying women can't get in these cultures.

And I'm grateful that when they do accept all people to love what they love, but I cannot be at another barbecue holding a beer in my hand, trying to look at my watch while some guy is telling me why I need to buy a $200 watch.

Not buying

Jane Matenaer

it,

Greg Bach

huh?

No, I'm not buying his reason.

I'm not buying the watch, but.

The the comparison the CD aspect of it all people are starting to say CDs sounds better than mp3 has complained of mp3 was it was even more compressed than CDs and so it's less warm It's

Jane Matenaer

cooler.

It's it's just so cold.

It's chillier Calvin

Yeah, I guess so I understand Like Greg I understand sort of the arguments for vinyl When it comes to mp3's that

So this is gonna get a little nerdy, but you're it away.

It's considered a Lost format when you convert someone from its original something from its original format to an mp3 it degrades mm-hmm So I can understand why someone would want to move away from mp3s But that being said Apple music and Spotify both now feature lossless formats where you get the original quality mm-hmm

So I'm not sure where CDs come into the play if because I don't think CDs are lossless.

Jane Matenaer

As far as being compressed.

Yeah, I believe a CD is degraded from its original recording.

Jane Matenaer

855-752-4842.

Are you going retro?

What actually qualifies as a retro anymore?

8-5-5-7-5-CIVIC.

The unbelievable alter ego on the live stream says, I agree with Greg.

I sold all my vinyl years ago because I was sick of moving them.

Yeah.

Greg Bach

Now that we live in a house, my wife actually loves vinyl.

In fact, when we go on our trips, whether it's this past weekend overnight or our January trips, by the way, I'm telling you my life.

Sorry about that.

She always goes to record shop.

We always go to record shops together and she buys at least one to two, if not three vinyls from local artists.

So that's cool.

So we have like a nice time capsule of where we've gone and who we listen to, but do you listen to them?

Well, not right now because we don't, in my opinion, have a good setup.

That's why I was talking to you about it.

We discussed that maybe it's time to invest a little bit of money in a player, a receiver and some speakers, not thousands of dollars.

But something so we can enjoy because we have a nice setup down in the basement.

It'd be nice to put an album on also Jay, I'm lazy and putting on an album is great.

But then in 15, 20 minutes, you got to get up

Jane Matenaer

and turn it over.

I know it's so exhausting.

Thank you.

855-752-4842.

Tom from West Dallas texting in listening on WAUK.

I'm still a big fan of DVDs.

I hate when I want to watch a movie and I can't find it on stream.

Now I always fall back on my DVDs.

I also have a big collection of laser discs.

My player still works great.

The only thing I have to do is lower the resolution on my flat screen.

So the picture looks clear.

I love that.

Greg Bach

Laser discs were going to be the thing of the future.

Right.

Because because that wasn't that blue rain.

Well, it was it was it was VHS then laser discs.

laser discs came out and the quality of the picture was better, of course.

But also, that was the beginning of, oh, we put special features on there, director's commentaries, bloopers behind the scenes.

It was the extras.

And

Greg Bach

then someone said, hey, how about we take this gigantic dinner plate and turn it into a teacup?

And then we were like, this is the greatest thing ever with DVD.

Then Blu-ray came out.

Then they're like, hey, it's going to be all on a computer somewhere in Nevada.

Which, by the way, if you don't know this, and this is important to tell people, you may have a digital movie collection, but you may not.

Because there are things in your terms of an agreement that say that if those movies go away from those- If they

Jane Matenaer

pull them?

Greg Bach

They don't.

And you've paid for them.

Yeah, it's gone.

You still don't have them.

But yeah.

I don't see a world where I say, honey, let's fire up the VHS and watch the last dragon because I need to relive the 80s again.

My childhood.

Jane Matenaer

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2 talking about retro, going retro.

I have a young, my good friend of mine, her daughter's 22.

She wants all my VHS tapes.

I'm so excited.

Jack and Merrimack, I can beat the VHS tapes.

My son has told me not to get rid of my beta tapes and my beta VCR.

That's amazing.

Greg Bach

Because beta was actually better than VHS.

It was the quality of beta.

Then why

Jane Matenaer

did that not take

Greg Bach

off?

Do you want to know the real reason?

Money.

Oh, that, but the commitment from a certain industry that sold a lot of VHS cassettes in the eighties said they were going to be only on VHS.

And it's not Disney.

It's in the back of a store, a video store with beaded curtains.

When they went to that format, that essentially ended.

Blackbuster.

No, porn.

Oh,

when they

Greg Bach

committed to being on VHS, but it was also the same thing that happened with Blu-ray and HD DVDs.

There was HD DVDs, which was a brand name and Blu-ray.

And when Disney said we were going to put all of our stuff on Blu-ray HD DVDs, which people claimed had better quality, we're gone because they didn't have an exclusive contract with a company so big and parents buying DVDs.

And if they go Blu-ray, that's where they go.

You know what I mean?

Like, so the one big move from a big media company killed the competition.

Interesting.

Jane Matenaer

They're not concerned about.

Quality with porn.

I'm so shocked.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

We're talking about going retro and VHS tapes and CDs.

What about cassette tapes?

Are they coming back

anytime soon?

Jane Matenaer

Yes.

Al from Campbell's Port has been waiting very patiently.

Good morning, Al.

Thanks for joining us.

What do you want to say?

Yeah, good morning.

I like the smell of vinyl in the morning.

Jane Matenaer

Okay.

Are you a vinyl guy?

Yes.

And is it because it's so much warmer sounding?

I

don't know about that warm part.

I mean, there's a lot of snap, crackle, and pop in there, you know.

Right.

Jane Matenaer

So what is it about vinyl that

you love, Elle?

Well, I've been buying since 1964, you know, the Beatles and that.

That was my first stuff.

Jane Matenaer

Nice.

How big of a record collection do you have?

Oh, quite a few.

Jane Matenaer

Is it in the thousands?

Oh, yeah.

Jane Matenaer

No.

Greg Bach

Oh, I mean, if you've been buying for, you've been buying for 60 years.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

I mean, Al, I'm, I'm honestly right there with you when it comes to vinyl.

I love buying vinyl, but I also like to buy a lot of used vinyl.

I'm one who looks for the $7, $8 vinyl and I, because nowadays, as you've probably seen, Jane vinyl from bands can be.

$30, $40, $50 for a brand new one.

Cause it's all 180 gram and remastered and all that stuff.

I was like, I bought a Hank snow record this weekend for $3.

And you know what?

It's going to sound amazing.

It'll be just

Jane Matenaer

fine.

Josh from Racine, you get the final word.

We only got about 50 seconds left.

Thanks for joining us, Josh.

What do you want to say?

Oh, um, I was letting you guys know, I, uh, re-sell full time.

Um, and it's crazy how many people have been buying these like VHS combos and like the TV VHS combos.

I can get them for you know free off the corner and turn around something like a hundred fifty bucks online insane

Jane Matenaer

Wow, that's crazy.

So now

Greg Bach

I know

Jane Matenaer

what to do.

I see them.

It's back.

Thank you, Josh.

Appreciate it.

All right when we return we're gonna wrap it up with this shouldn't be a thing itsy-bitsy spider's Edition stay with us.

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Coming up tomorrow on the show, Todd Alba.

Our friend, colleague, travel companion, host of the Todd Always show from two to four across the network.

He will be here after the 930 News.

And you'll be there today.

I will be on Todd's show today at 2.30.

We just kind of have tea and kick things around.

Ooh, fancy.

Yes, tea with Todd and Jane.

And Corrine Hendrickson, our friend.

is going to join us now running for office.

Greg Bach

Yes, we will be, but we will be talking about weekend, which is a, oh gosh, now I'm blanking on that.

We'll be talking specifically about the efforts from their group to get for childcare, access and funding and things of that nature.

I want to get the name of that.

I apologize for not having that.

Jane Matenaer

The childcare issue in Wisconsin and around the country has not gone away.

Greg Bach

No, yeah.

And tomorrow is Wisconsin Education Career Access Network.

We are going to be talking to her about that.

and what they are doing now that the funding has, I mean, they got a year of funding, but that's not enough.

Well, no, it's gonna run out.

Yeah, exactly.

So, yeah, can't wait to have her on the show.

She's always a great guest.

She is, she's

Jane Matenaer

fabulous.

Always informative and energetic.

Absolutely.

So, join us tomorrow.

Again, Todd Alba Green-Hendrickson and much, much more coming your way tomorrow's show.

Calvin, it's 10.54.

That means it's time for... This shouldn't be a thing.

If you ever find a thing you think should not be, send it in to Greg and Mia.

Jane says at civicmedia.us.

J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S.

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We're trying to do Halloween themed tis bets all week.

This one from the Miami Herald, Espen Flugenhoft.

God, I wish that was made.

What was that name?

Espen Flugenhoft.

Good bless you.

Thank you as they have the byline for the Miami Herald the headline reads Cavers find huge extraordinary spider colony on Albania grease border Walking into a cave along the Albania Grecian border Cavers shine their lights along rock walls and found a massive and extraordinary spider

colony.

A team of speleologists from the Czech Speleological Society visited several caves in northwestern Greece in 2022 in one cavern dubbed the Sulphur Cavern.

Cavern, they found a large colonial spider web.

They believe it has 110,000 spiders.

Greg Bach

Okay, so here's how this goes for me.

I'm there.

Yeah.

Picture me there on the Grecian Albanian border.

You got your headlamp on.

Got my headlamp, got my hand torch, got everything I need, got my granola snacks for later, because you know, boy, get hungry.

Well, you're in a cave.

I'm hungry and I'm in a cave.

The moment I see 50 spiders on a web, let alone...

That many this is my impression of me.

Look at that.

Well, I gotta go now and then I leave I leave the country I get on a plane I go to somewhere where there's not a hundred and fifty thousand spiders near me the extraordinary

Jane Matenaer

colonial spider assemblage Which is how they describe it.

I'd never listen that band spanned 1140 square feet of the walls of this cave home to two different species the domestic house spider

and the other spider, uh, Prinigione vegans.

The two spider species had not been known to live together until now.

In sin.

Spiders and spiders living together, meaning cats and dogs.

Researchers estimate the massive spider colony was made up of 111,000 spiders.

Oh, that's fine then.

About 60% domestic.

and 40% of the Pringeroni-Vegan spiders.

Greg Bach

What I really like is that it's the Pringeroni-Vegans, which sounds like an alien race of spiders.

It does.

And then the Common House spider.

Yeah, just the ones you find in your bathroom.

Just got a little ass caught on saying, would you like some tea?

Jane Matenaer

Welcome.

We've made you a chair out of our webs.

The team is very excited.

The location of the colonial spider web coincides with an area

where an unusually dense swarm of flies usually hovers.

Researchers estimate the swarm had over two and a half million flies.

An abundant food source that helped to grow this impressive, extraordinary spider colony.

Greg Bach

Hey, Jane.

There's a spider on your shoulder.

I know.

Jane Matenaer

It's just giving me the grease

Greg Bach

all over the place.

You chose this one, by the way.

I know.

You were like, we're going to do Halloween, so let's also do weird, too.

That's creepy.

Hey, everybody, everyone listening right now, there's a spider on your shoulder.

Jane Matenaer

Carmella texted us much earlier in the show, and she said, last Thursday morning, I got back in my car after gassing up.

I was playing with my phone about ready to start driving when I looked up.

on my gear shift and there was a spider.

Look at how fat it is.

I froze, looked around for something.

I could scoop it with nothing seemed doable.

Then it just climbed over into the passenger seat and climbed underneath.

That was four days ago.

I'm pretty sure it.

in caps is still waiting to come out and attack me.

Greg Bach

I had a spider on my, on my side view mirror, which migrated its way to Bridget side view mirror, which migrated its way from the tree across from us to the roof of our house where it built this huge web suspended by our roof and the tree.

And I walked out of the house and I saw a dot out of the corner of my eye and it was just this.

Spider sitting on a web suspended between the two and they're not close.

That's a pretty ambitious little spider.

That was what it was and it wasn't like a week later.

It was literally the next morning This spider has gravitas and work ethic.

Jane Matenaer

I love these spiders a spider with presents Exactly that wraps up today's episode of

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