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This pops up every once in a while when I'm surfing or playing games on my tablet.
Play our game, we'll pay you.
It sounds like a really good deal.
Almost too good.
It does so we're gonna talk to Lisa Schiller about these offers about play our game online and we'll pay you billions and billions of dollars Is that actually true?
Hmm
Lisa Schiller will be here to talk about that and other scams.
Yep.
We're coming up on the holidays, folks.
Holidays are almost here.
Yep.
And there are lots of holiday related scams.
So Lisa Schiller is going to be joining us in just a little bit after the 9 30 news in hour number two, because it is Friday.
Dan Schaffer will be here to recombobulate.
He's also civic media's political editor.
Another name seriously being considered.
Now in the edges of potentially entering the Wisconsin governor's race.
They
were thinking about it a few months ago.
Now
they're seriously considering.
We'll tell you who it is, but you got to tune in when Dan gets here.
Yep.
And then we'll wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.
Today it is the socket to me edition.
Stay tuned for that.
It's another good one.
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We have Joyce in Post Lake.
Oh.
We have to look that up now.
This is how we learn all the places in
Wisconsin.
We start with just pure incredulous, like, that's not a place.
There's no
place like that.
And then we're like, oh, it's a village in Wisconsin.
That's just north of Madison.
OK, great.
Good to know.
Look is the word.
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Post Lake is an unincorporated community in Wisconsin, and it is located below Upper Post Lake.
Of course.
I'm
not kidding you.
I'm sure.
Let's see here.
Let's look for the biggest.
It's just outside of Monaco.
Well, not just outside of Monaco.
I should say it's Monaco adjacent.
It's actually next to Tomahawk and Merrill.
So all right.
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ish, Wisconsin.
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Lots to talk about there.
Um, Greg's wearing his very nice Brewers hoodie.
Milwaukee Brewers will be facing the Chicago Cubs.
Tomorrow in the 2025 NLDS postseason bracket.
Not who you wanted to see, Greg Buck.
I wanted it, like, if I had to see Craig Council make it, I wanted to see, like, at least the Brewers, like, flame up.
You're like, all right, at least I can clap for Craig Council.
Whatever, but I don't I my whole head hurts right now.
My body doesn't feel good I can't feel like real pure joy at this moment everything hinges on the next few days and I really Really want the cubs to lose.
No, I
take that back.
I take the back I really want cubs fans to lose
I think that's the
more accurate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's more how I feel.
So we do have coverage tomorrow on select stations across the civic media radio network.
Our coverage will start at 1235 tomorrow.
And you can listen to the game.
But again, it's got to be on terrestrial radio.
We can't stream it because of various legalities.
So you can listen to the game tomorrow on WRCE in Richland Center, WISS in Oshkosh, here in Racine and Kenosha on WRJN.
CQM and Park Falls and WBZH in Hayward.
Brewer's hosting the Cubbies tomorrow at 12.35.
It's gonna be okay.
Will it?
Well, it's gonna, we have games to play.
I'll text you my thoughts at four o'clock in the morning if this doesn't go the way
you think it
goes.
Feel free to text in and try and comfort Greg.
at 855-752-4842.
You're not alone.
I'm sure a lot of Brewer's fans are feeling the same way as you.
It's just kind of hopeful with a side of dread.
Absolutely.
Yep.
All right.
We'll see what happens again.
More dread than hopeful at this point.
Yeah.
Brewer's hosting the Cubbies tomorrow at MFAM Field with our coverage starting at 1235.
Yep.
So we are in day two of the shutdown.
It's been interesting.
Seeing some of the different comments from various people involved on the Republican side about the shutdown and figuring out how did they get a job?
Yeah, one wonders.
Well, it's about loyalty.
It's not about qualifications.
We have a clip from Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House.
Yes, Mike Johnson talking about the government shutdown and Russell vote, who is the head of the Office of Management and Budget.
Russell vote, of course, the author of project 2025.
It exists.
And it's being implemented.
And about a third of it has already been implemented.
I've heard reports of 70%.
Yeah.
It's it's pretty well in in the works already.
Yeah.
But let's play this clip, Calvin, from Mike Johnson talking about Russ vote and how he feels about firing people.
It is up to the Commander-in-Chief, the President of the United States, to determine how those resources will be spent.
He has that responsibility given to him by the Democrats and the Senate.
They can't complain about it, and he doesn't want to do it.
But in this scenario, what they have to do is make very difficult decisions.
Most of the responsibility falls to Russ Vogue.
He's the Director of the Office of Management and Budget.
As you know, whomever is seated in the chair at OMB during a shutdown has to do the same thing.
Russ does this reluctantly.
Russ does this reluctantly.
Yeah.
Makes him feel bad.
That's weird, Jane, because I was watching, I know it sounds weird, but I was watching Fox News the other night and Mike Lee was on there talking about.
Mike Lee, a Republican from YouTube.
Yes.
Talk has wonderful things to say about everybody in the world.
Just, and I clipped a little bit, just a little bit of his idea.
on how Russ vote feels about the possible firings that will come from this government.
Shut down.
Calvin, you can play that clip.
Because Russ vote, the OMV director has been dreaming about this moment, preparing this moment since puberty.
There you go.
Yay.
Yeah.
I don't, I
don't really, sorry, Mike Johnson, Speaker Johnson, whatever you want to call yourself, liar of the third liar in charge.
I don't believe that he doesn't enjoy this when he authored a book that was about gutting the U.S.
government and instituting a way of being that hooks to his values, which he's a Christian nationalist.
He is a Christian nationalist.
And taking apart our government little by little, instilling all the power into the president, as they've been trying to do for a long, this is not, by the way, this is executive, Kimber,
a theory about executive power funneling all the power to the executive branch.
This was taken down by Bill Barr, who now speaks ill of Donald Trump.
So, I do not believe for a moment that the author of Project 2025 has a personal moral quandary about instituting firings, about layoffs, and slashing departments down to the bone when he wrote
That book that I don't feel I can't believe I believe Mike Lee.
Yeah, I do too.
Also because there's a quote from Russ vote.
Ah, before Donald Trump was reelected when we were talking repeatedly about project 2025 and we had people calling us and saying it doesn't exist.
I haven't heard about it.
None of my friends have heard about it.
Big deal.
Not a thing.
This is a quote from Russ vote quote.
We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected.
When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains.
We want their funding to be shut down so that the EPA can't do all of the rules against our energy industry.
We want to put them in trauma."
What a Christian
sounding thing to say
about other human
beings.
Also, you know that some of those bureaucrats
are Republicans, right?
They have jobs in those offices, too.
Are you going to find them work?
Will there be enough work to spread around to even the loyal?
Because that's the other thing, too, is just because you're a loyalist doesn't mean you get rewarded.
Look
at
Rudy
Giuliani.
Oh, God, do I have to?
Must I?
I mean, look at the fallout from, look at Mike Lindell, the MyPillow guy.
They use you
up for what they need, and then they spit you out.
And these guys are going broke over this movement.
Brett from Brown Deer texting and listening on WAUK.
He says the actual percentage of project 2025 already made into law in Trump's first six months is 47%.
Brett, I haven't seen that before, but I appreciate you texting that in.
And Sue also asked on the text line about the Brewer's game.
Our coverage starts tomorrow at 12.35.
The game itself starts at 1.05.
Just to clarify.
So again, our coverage will start tomorrow at 12.35.
Little pre-game action.
Yeah.
Um, this, this is bad.
It is bad.
Yes.
It's, uh, it's very bad.
There are people online who actively root for it, who will be so affected by it.
Rest vote that nice.
He just wants to inflict a little trauma and they don't care about you.
Isn't that, isn't that nice?
Uh, we have a little more coming up and we're going to hear from Kevin Smiley.
Kevin has it.
On ACA Premiums going up, he has some inside for you.
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We were talking before the break about the shutdown, government shutdown.
A lot of people concerned about their, if you're on the ACA, if you're on the Affordable Care Act, also Obamacare is the same thing.
There's a lot of concern about people's premium skyrocketing.
Yes, at the end of December,
premium tax credits that cover a portion of people's payments on the ACA are going to go away go away go away and there and the the conservative estimate is between 50 to 75% Will the the premium will go
up.
Yes Kevin Hassett who is part of the Trump administration appeared on some podcast I couldn't exactly identify where he should where this was it was
on meta
It was
presented by meta with two individuals interviewing this guy
And yeah, it didn't have a logo or anything.
Here is his explanation on the premiums going up for the Affordable Care Act.
Kevin, play that clip please from Kevin Hassett.
There will undoubtedly be some economic impact if the healthcare premiums skyrocket, right?
I mean, if we don't see any kind of extension of this, how do you view the economic impact of it if they just go by the wayside?
We'll just have to wait and see what happens of the negotiation.
We'll have to see where people end up
75
it's 75% increase or more I mean you're talking about a big increase in premium, but don't forget the 75% is off of a really low number and so so when you're looking at the dollar changes then you know the Part of partisan would cite the percentages because you if you go from a small number to a slightly bigger number that the percent change is huge
Smiley Kevin has it
If you're a partisan, if you're a partisan, you look at the percentage of the increase instead of looking at how little they're paying.
So therefore that 75% increase isn't an increase or it's just not going to be that it doesn't.
It shouldn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
It
shouldn't matter enough for you to care at all.
But the thing is, is that.
What I so I because I have to suss out what he's saying because he is speaking in his stupid speak.
I'm sorry.
I'm tired of respecting these people He he says something so the platinum there's the platinum plan and he makes the claim in another part of that clip that people pay zero amount I couldn't find anything that said that all I could find was that people on the platinum plan pay 10% of the premium with the
Subsidy subsidy covering 90% of those people on of those people on the ACA 1% of individuals are on the platinum plan You don't pay zero you pay something
and something times 75% is more than that something.
And I believe you looked it up, the average cost to a person on the ACA was $477?
I believe so.
There's a lot of room there.
If you're on the ACA, by the way, we would love to hear from you and what you are paying in premiums, 855-752-4842.
And don't forget, a lot of small businesses use the ACA.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I worked for a company that used the ACA to get their health insurance and we had to consistently move help we had to move from providers because Doctors could throw us off could throw us off their plan because individual doctors who don't work directly for a hospital can do whatever they want a hospital can take the ACA that's and this is this this was my understanding back in 2015 If a doctor is private practice they can choose not to take anyone on the ACA sure
If they work for a hospital and the hospital takes ACA, they take it.
We were going through systems where doctors were just throwing us off so much that we couldn't get coverage.
We had to keep going.
And also just that 477 that I saw you looking up, with that 75% increase for 77 a month, we'll go to 852.
So I know that Kevin is rich.
Yeah, I was trying to find out his net worth and I've seen everything from $400 to $500 million.
Yeah, 75% increase for him on his health insurance.
Well, he has government health insurance because he works for the government.
So it's great.
It's wonderful.
But it's going to be an increase.
It's going to be a lot.
Nobody pays zero that I could find.
If someone pays zero right now, call us and let us know.
But he is some of the most heartless.
Discussion points I've heard.
Well, we'll see what happens.
It's not so bad.
It's it if you do a 75% increase on a low number.
It's just low.
Yeah, exactly.
It's just low.
It's low to me no matter what.
Exactly.
I can afford it because I'm worth half a million dollars.
I
don't
have to care about these people and I don't care about them even if they voted for us.
And please don't fall for the lie because that's what it is.
It is a lie.
to say that Democrats want coverage for illegal immigrants.
That isn't accurate.
It's one of the chief criticisms of the clip we put up on Instagram this week with Dr. Lyley saying it plain that undocumented folks cannot get health insurance.
Everyone was like, do your research.
We did.
Yeah, we did.
And a doctor told us too.
So I guess, sorry, we win.
When we return from the news, we're going to talk about video games they say they will pay you to play.
Is that actually true?
Lisa Schiller from the Better Business Bureau will join us.
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Right now, we're going to talk scams, baby.
We're heading towards the holidays.
And Lisa Schiller is here from the Better Business Bureau.
Good morning, Lisa.
Thanks so much for joining us.
Good morning, guys.
Good to be here always.
How much time do we have to talk about scams?
Honestly, if it keeps us from talking about politics for like an hour, I'm fine.
I
saw this in the Milwaukee Journal sentinel.
Tamiya folks had this byline and the story says this app says you can win money by playing games.
Wisconsin users say they are not getting paid.
Now.
I do play games occasionally, Lisa, on my little notepad, whatever.
And I'll see those ads pop up.
Play our game.
We'll pay you $700 billion.
And it sure looks like it's a great thing.
And I was always taught if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Yeah, that's my line.
That's my line, Jane.
If it sounds to be true, it usually is.
So this is a company that actually has had a Wisconsin address.
It's called Playful Rewards.
And we started hearing about them in April.
Consumers were coming to us from all over the country and in Canada.
We've received about three dozen complaints.
And they're alleging that they're playing games through this Playful Rewards platform.
They're apparently downloading an app.
they complete tasks and achieve different levels and in turn they earn rewards which they then can turn in to cash rewards really through gift cards.
So the pattern we were seeing was that consumers were saying that they would turn in those rewards for
when it would come to about $20 or so, $30, $25.
And I think they were probably testing it.
They would receive the gift card, and then they would say, oh, this is working.
This is real.
I'm going to play for more.
And so they would turn around, play for more.
And then when it came time to cash in $100 or more, that's when they started filing complaints because they were being told that they had done something wrong
or they
didn't qualify and they were not getting those rewards.
This might be a really silly question, Lisa, but how are these companies making money?
Or is it just about getting your information?
Is that all they're mining for?
Is our personal data?
I can't even tell you for sure, but very likely.
Obviously, our data is there.
It's being collected, where it's going, nobody knows.
Hard to say at this point.
I mean, we're still, you know, reviewing complaints.
We're trying to work with the company, you know, and, and basically, you know, the company is responding to most complaints.
We're seeing just really the same response, you know, kind of a copy and paste.
And I have to imagine like with any, I mean, whether it's a game or just like a rewards program at a restaurant or whatever, everyone offers a rewards.
Program and the amount you have to pay by do whatever is never really worth the reward like like buy 12 sandwiches get one sandwich for free So I imagine that these individuals who are playing they're playing probably quite a lot in order to get this money and at the end of the day I mean it's probably breaking down to a very low wage to play these games and That doesn't mean though Lisa that every single one of these is
a scam because a PJ on the live stream said that fetch rewards is legitimate in Madison and Microsoft has apps you can play.
You can earn gift cards as well.
So it's not, I guess not all of them are scams.
But so that leads me to the question of what should people be on the lookout for?
Or is it just about looking for reviews so people can keep themselves aware and safe from these types of situations?
Right.
I mean, you know, and you said it exactly great.
And, you know, people are spending a lot of time doing this as well, you know, and, and I guess, you know, it breaks it down to be the principle of the whole matter, which is, you know, where if the consumer says, you know, hey, I followed the rules and, and, you know, I was supposed to get paid and you're now you're not, you know, following through on your end of the promise, you know, and I mean, we're getting
About eight inquiries a day on this particular company alone.
So
that's a lot
Yeah, that's it is a lot.
It is a lot.
We've received over 500 inquiries since April I mean, it's a lot of people.
So, you know, generally when we see our inquiries Our inquiry numbers large like that that means people are checking on the company
Hopefully before doing business, they're reading our report, which is very thorough on this company.
It's very thorough, custom tech.
You know, we're explaining what we're seeing and the pattern of complaints we've kind of summarized it for you.
Even though, you know, keep in mind, you can go into our report and read every complaint word for word and the company's response and any rebuttal.
So you can, you know,
you know, get a good feel for what you're getting yourself into and whether or not you want to move forward.
But I also feel it's people inquiring in the company that, you know, are going to maybe turn around and file a complaint because, you know, they're looking to see the experience from other people.
And like you mentioned, Greg reviews, yes, that's very helpful as well.
We have currently four reviews on this company that consumers have written.
They are not positive.
You can read those two word for word.
Always a good idea to check on a company.
And the caller had mentioned fetch rewards.
I can tell you offhand, we do have a report on that company.
And you can read that report thoroughly as well.
So always do your homework.
It's, and also too, and this just seems like an aside though, you know, when we think of scams, we think of, you know, fly by night, we've given them our money or our time, they pack their bags and they leave and it's a P.O.
box, but they're actually responding to customers.
but in a way of saying, sorry, you didn't do this one thing right.
So you don't get the reward.
And it's just a very interesting, for me, it's an interesting story.
Cause I expected a scam just to be a typical traditional scam.
Like, oh man, I gave my money and now they're gone.
But this is actually a company just not very, very good.
Like they're, I guess I can't think of a very fun way of
saying it.
They're finding reasons not to fulfill this agreement.
It sounds like they're an insurance
company.
Let's
deny the
claim.
Yeah, that's you're right.
If you're just, oh, there we go.
Microphone.
If you're just joining us on mat and air on air, we're speaking to Lisa Schiller from the Better Business Bureau of Wisconsin.
We're talking about scam, specifically one that's offering you rewards for playing games on your phone.
And I want to point out again, this does not apply to all games or all companies that do this.
There's just this one specific.
What's the name of the company again, Lisa?
It's called playful rewards.
Okay, and and I do want to say, you know, we are not calling this a scam, you know and and consumers are Contacting us a lot of times through our BBB scam tracker, you know, which we talked about in the show It's a great online tool.
You can report scams and fraud and we're you know, the anyone that reports it to that
portal, we are asking them to turn around and file a complaint or write a review instead.
You know, consumers get that mixed up all the time, you know, they think because they feel they've been scammed,
they
call it a scam.
When we kind of turn around and go, this is, you know, a company with an address, they're in communication with us.
So please, you know, file a complaint, let us attempt to assist you in resolving this.
Well, that actually kind of opens up a whole new line of questions for me.
I mean, for myself, I just equate
bad with scam if people aren't getting what they want for the money or the time.
So can you tell us what for you as the better, better business bureau qualifies the situation from like this where it's a company to a scam?
What are your, what are your needs to have to have to happen to say this is an actual scam?
Well, you know generally scams are you know don't have an address
you know
first of all so robo calls fishing scams imposter scams I mean you know those are all the kind of things that we see on our scam tracker on a daily basis those online shopping scams that we've talked about on the show before you know consumers are jumping online or they're answering ads in social media platforms and they're you know thinking that they're purchasing you know a brewer's
a t-shirt for you know nine dollars and but there's no address on the website at all you know there's there's no contact information but they're moving forward they're putting their payment information in on those websites and then they're either getting nothing or something is coming maybe months later from you know overseas so that's the kind of thing that we would consider a scam I guess basically you know
I mean, geez, how do I explain it in my own words?
You know, generally something without an address
that,
you know, we know really doesn't exist.
You know, Robocall, those text messages that, you know, go nowhere
or you
have to click on a link and
put it on your
information.
Another scam and I don't see as many of these as I used to, but there used to be all of these online quizzes.
Where should you live?
You know, what's your perfect job?
Come and answer this little questionnaire and it's just a fun light thing.
You know, where was your high school?
Where did you, where were you born?
What's your social security number?
But,
but
it's, you
know, what, what's your dot?
What was
your
first dog's name?
Those kinds of things are basically mining your information.
You give them your dog's name, you might use that as a password.
Yes, absolutely.
And, you know, I don't, people don't realize this often.
And, you know, I mean, sometimes I'm scrolling through Facebook and, you know, it's some, a friend of mine will put up something and say, Hey, you know, check the boxes on all the,
you know,
countries you've been to or states.
And it's like, Oh, this looks like fun.
I have a few minutes.
You know, and, and people do it, but you're exactly right.
I mean, you know, it's hard to explain to people that scammers actually can.
you know, take that information and and use it against you.
Yes.
Those little pieces of information that you're giving away, it is really valuable to, you know, a fraudster.
Hey, they once you tell them where you were born, and if you let them know the year that you were born, you have given up a whole bunch of information that you may not have realized you just did.
So true.
And something I want to make clear too, because we've talked about this before, there tends to be a belief that, oh, scams and these types of trickeries, you know, old folks got to watch out, elderly got to watch out.
No, this is for everybody, especially what you just brought up, Lisa, as far as buying something like a t-shirt online, especially in the age of click the thing, buy with one click, and it's done.
people aren't looking at the website people and we're so used to buying things online young people and electronic devices they don't look to find out if it's real and they almost expect to be screwed over or scammed a little bit by like having to wait seven weeks for something to coming from Germany but really this this advice is going out to everyone regardless of your age especially in the age of one click buying on the internet so
yeah
And, you know, we live in this instantaneous age right now.
Everybody wants something, you know, yesterday and I have a 20 year old daughter.
So I see this all the time.
She sees something online.
Click, click, click.
And,
you know, she's purchasing it.
I'm like, yeah, gotta slow down.
You have to, you know, who are you dealing with?
I mean, you have to know who you're buying these, you know.
pieces of clothing from.
See,
don't feel badly because even Lisa Schiller, who works for the Better Business Bureau, has people in her own family who do it.
So we all fall for it.
It's something we all fall for.
We're going to continue our conversation with Lisa Schiller from the Better Business Bureau on the other side.
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Right now we are joined by our friend Lisa Schiller over at the Better Business Bureau talking about various scams and ways to protect yourself and Halloween decorations are up now but Christmas stuff is
already in the stores.
Absolutely and Lisa you know we have you on usually around this time or maybe a little bit later to talk about
those holiday scams, and they're not just holiday, you know, specific.
They're just around everything that happens around this time, whether it's buying gifts, shipping gifts, returning gifts, charities, charities, yes, charity.
I don't want to say scams or schemes, just I'll just say people can fall for things.
What should we be on the lookout for?
Okay, I'll break it into two pieces.
What are the regular things people should be on the lookout for in the holiday season?
And is there anything new that you're seeing that people should be aware of specifically for 2025?
Well, let's see.
I mean, there's so many things to talk about during the holiday season.
I mean, gift cards are big.
You know, that's one of the most purchased items, right?
For people.
People want them.
People love to give them.
They, you know, one size fits all.
It's easy.
Every year we see a lot of gift card issues, especially during the holidays because that's when the sales are ramped up.
So you really have to pay attention to those gift cards.
Make sure that the packaging hasn't been tampered with when you're purchasing them in the store.
Make sure that the little section on the back hasn't been scratched off in the number.
It has been read to somebody that you know some scammer gift cards are a big thing Charities, you know, actually October through December is charity appeals time So, you know, we start seeing a lot more donation requests
um you know people uh you know start uh making donations around this time and they lead with their heart
instead of their
head a lot of times um so the reminder is out there to really know you know who you're donating to me you know it we're so generous uh you know Americans and especially Wisconsinites um it's great to you know if you can if you can donate or whatever you can and you want to give to your you know favorite charities that's fantastic
But you really have to make sure that you're giving to a charity that uh, you know is really the charity that you believe you're giving to um, so in other words You know like if you google the word breast cancer, which we're in breast cancer awareness month right now you google the word breast cancer You'll come up with thousands of different charity names.
So there's
so many, you know copycat names Uh, so just you know be very aware of that take time to look up that charity better business bearer has a charity arm.
We have a whole
website dedicated to a give.org where we reach out to charities and organizations and ask them for information about their mission, their vision, where their money's going.
We want to see their financials.
So charity scams is, like you said, Greg, I use word scam all the time, but let's just be aware and do a little research before we shop online or donate online.
And the one thing I always say to Lisa, if you can, give locally.
If, you know, if you can give, if you want to get donated to a charity, donate to a local charity, something that's located in your community where you can find them, you can drive to their address, you know they exist, you know, I'm a big, we're big animal supporters, so, you know, various animal shelters and I get appeals from them all over the country, but I'd like to keep it local as much as possible because I've talked to these people, I've been to their facilities, I know they exist.
great advice, Jane.
Yep.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Absolutely.
Stick local whenever you can.
And, and, you know, cross the board, you know, try to do business, you know, locally whenever possible, you know, or, or at least contractors
at least, you know, redcross.org is pretty much a solid, you know, we know that that's a legitimate organization.
So some of those, but, but, but you do, you have to be careful.
Anybody can make letterhead look legitimate these days.
Right.
Very easy to make a letterhead, you know, look legitimate and steal someone's logo, steal their copy, steal their address, you know, all of that.
Absolutely.
I mean, even I would say just like a good start to it, not just the letterhead, but like it with the email address.
If you get something that looks official, just click on the email address.
If it's from the group.
it will be a legitimate, like a lot of times it'll say, you know, give to the Red Cross and the email address will be like ZYXF25.
It'll just be a very convoluted set of numbers.
But if you just check the email address first, and even like Google, like, Oh, are they looking for, are they looking for help?
Are they looking, is there an appeal going on?
There's ways, it's a couple of extra steps.
But I think in this matter of your security and safety, it's worth it, especially when you want to give to
charities because if you get scammed and you get scammed and so does that charity scam tracker take advantage of
the better business bureau website
all of the web all of the all of that stuff will be on the way on the show notes today in the show so you can click on better business bureau I got the scam tracker set out specifically as well so you can find out everything you need to know really appreciate your time Lisa as always
Thank
you.
Always good to be with you guys.
We'll get you back in in a couple months as we get a little closer to the holidays.
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Glad to have you in studio.
By the way, we do know now that the Brewers will be hosting the Cubbies tomorrow.
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you doing Greg?
I am so I can't function.
He's he's he's riddled
with anxiety.
You're wearing the Brewer's gear.
You're ready for the weekend, which the cubbies are coming to town.
Why do you hurt me
with every word you say?
It was dating fact.
It was such a yeah, you're right.
You're right.
You are you are an award-winning journalist and facts are your are your stock and trade.
It's also just a it's also the problem that
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So I'm kind of, I feel like I'm being, I feel like I'm being hugged by a nap right now.
Cause I'm just like, yeah, this is, Trump is terrible.
Brewers
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So Brewers and Cubbies tomorrow, our broadcast will start at 1235.
And we're gonna start off with some spry 83-year-olds.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da, Governor's Race, 2026, Wisconsin.
Now, flirting
with jumping into the Wisconsin Governor's Race, Tommy Thompson must be lonely or bored or something.
Can
it be both, Jane?
Could be both.
Well, so, okay.
I'm pulling up the headline here.
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported yesterday, Tommy Thompson, the former longtime Wisconsin governor, seriously considering another run in 2026.
I
guess we're
going through this cycle again.
Apparently so.
Cause a few months ago he hadn't ruled it out.
Yes.
That was the, I haven't ruled it out.
And I felt like that came with a big.
like I just want a headline today.
So now it's come to this.
Now it's come to this.
Tommy Thompson, the former governor, considering another run.
Now let's recall that Tommy Thompson has not served in Wisconsin and elected office since 2001 when he joined the first term of George W. Bush's administration.
He ran for Senate in 2012 and lost to Tammy Baldwin.
That was 13 years ago.
Tommy Thompson is 83 years old.
He is 10 years older than Tony Evers.
He is older than Joe Biden and Donald Trump and
Donald Trump.
How long was he governor?
He was governor for not even 16 years because he did four terms, but he left in the middle of his fourth term 1987 to 2001.
He has been out of office as governor longer than he was actually in office as governor.
So that also, I mean, all of these pieces here, I personally just feel like there's going to be someone who walks up to him and says, you're not doing this.
And I think it's clear that he's obviously not going to be doing this, right?
This is just a headline grab.
He's not really considering that he's running for governor.
It's just like he likes to play this game, I think.
He
did an
interview on WTMJ and said this and I think he just likes to, he likes to goof around with the press.
He likes to say these things and it's gonna get a headline because he's Tommy Thompson.
He's gonna get a headline, right?
Please
call me and interview me.
I'm bored.
I'm available.
Yeah.
Well, that's the thing too.
If he put himself out to one of the news networks, whether it was
you know, one of the talk news networks and say, Hey, I'd love to be a regular contributor, write a story or be a monthly guest to talk about what's going, I think
many of those stations would hop at the opportunity.
And there are so many ways of being him be staying in the spotlight in the headlines rather than every four months going, you never know, man.
Yeah.
You know, it's, it's, you're right.
It's funny.
Cause when I read, cause cause a few months ago it was, hasn't ruled it out.
And we sat here.
Like we are today saying, this is dumb.
And now he's saying seriously considering, and I think when I listen to you talk, I think I'm like, yeah, you're right.
Grant, Grant was just having some fun cause grandpa gets headlines.
He's just goofing
around with this.
This is very
unserious, but I guess it's, I guess it leads to journal sent no headlines.
So he can stay in the mix.
And I think it also, I think he also, you know, he was very instrumental in Tim Michaels being the candidate four years ago.
And
he, it has like not fully, but he has a little bit of this kind of king maker.
you know, wants to be wants to, wants to be the guy pulling the strings in the background, wants to be the guy who's very involved in this kind of stuff.
It didn't work out so well
this time.
It didn't work out so well for Tim Michaels.
And, you know, I think I actually talked to, talked to Tommy Thompson on the, um, on the floor of the RNC, uh, last year, right after JD Vance's speech, and he was very, uh, effusive in his praise of JD Vance's speech at the RNC and all of that.
Um, and, but I, so I think
you know, he was there front row in the Wisconsin seats at the VP speech.
Like
he's very much wants to be in the mix for Wisconsin stuff.
And, you know, he's, he's earned that.
Right.
I mean, he wants to be a mover and shaker.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the question I have, and I feel like you can answer this better than anyone in the room, because you, you move in those halls where you're reporting the story.
So you're talking to all sorts of people.
If Tommy Thompson really wanted to be a mover and shaker and a king maker and all of those things, he would have been in Wisconsin and more visible, you know, like Ryan's previous and, and Robin Voss can be, you can say they are king makers.
They are the people who hold the pot.
Like they are the ones who can push the ship of the Wisconsin, Wisconsin GOP if they wanted to.
Right.
So it's holding a fundraiser in Milwaukee with Tom Tiffany tonight.
$20,000 for the platinum edition.
Yeah, yeah.
All the big movers and shakers are coming.
But it feels like Tommy Thompson does more of the It's it's it's less about wanting to do the work.
He just wants the recognition and and him thinking he's a kingmaker because of Tim Michaels like yeah, you picked a loser
And you haven't, and you've been out of office for a very long time, but we don't see you kind of operating.
And like, I don't see you around a lot.
And a person who wants to be in power is out there
shaking hands.
Like Tom Tiffany was at the state fair.
He really wants us to think he's from Wisconsin now.
Like he really wants us to think he's of Wisconsin.
Tom Tiffany with that hat and that.
farm and look.
Love it.
And he can hold a fish.
He can hold a fish.
He can hold a fish.
Yeah.
I mean, I guess it's one of the main qualifications for being governor.
Apparently so.
According to some in conservative media.
Yeah.
He got to
be
able
to hold a fish.
Yeah.
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And we're talking about serious considerations for the governor's race of 2026.
Now.
That is a fun headline to talk about.
There was another candidate who did enter the race.
Which race?
Governor's
race.
We're doing governor's race.
In the governor's race, we have another candidate.
We get a new
announcement for some sort
of
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Yeah, so governor's race, Missy Hughes was the latest Democrat to launch her campaign for governor, launching it as I believe the kind of the first line of the ad that she launched was a Democrat that understands the economy.
And I think that is the angle that she's going to take as, you know, the previous job that she held resigned just a couple of weeks ago before launching her campaign was as the CEO and secretary of the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation position she's held since 29
prior to that, she was an executive at the Wisconsin based company, Organic Valley for 17 years.
And so I think she's going to talk about that private sector experience.
She's going to be talking about that experience at the WEDC.
And, and I think that is, there is kind of an underexplored story with the WEDC more generally, because like under Scott Walker, it was constantly in the news for like allegations of corruption and pay to play and mismanagement.
And they went through a whole bunch of different leaders and throughout Scott Walker's two terms of
Well, Missy Hughes has been kind of that role stabilizing that organization for the past six plus years here.
And I think there is a story to be told about the turnaround of that where it's not just like throwing big bucks at Foxconn where it was, you know, having much more main street small business focus for what that organization has been doing.
And I just think it's an important reminder for folks.
Because again, especially when it comes to the COVID years, we tend to have collective amnesia and forget all
the
things that happened during those two years.
Wisconsin's small businesses did much better than many, many other states in the country.
Yes.
Much better.
Wisconsin was in certain ways a leader, a national leader in those, in shepherding those economic development funds to main street and small businesses.
And I think, you know, that's a big, you know, feather in her cap for all this.
And I think just like the larger turnaround, like they were leader, I just under Walker, like I was a business news reporter at the time.
So the WDC was always in the news.
And there was just like always, you know, I was, they had this thing that went wrong and that thing that went wrong and this leader that resigned and that leader that got fired.
and this pay-to-play allegation and all of that.
And we just haven't had that type of environment around the WEDC at the same time under Hughes.
And I think she's part of the Evers administration, sociable.
talk about that and there's a lot going on there.
It's so
interesting.
Oh boy, here comes sarcasm.
I'm just, hmm, side by side comparisons.
It's just, huh.
Well, and I think the other thing people should understand too and remember is that before Scott Walker, we didn't have a WEDC.
We had a Department of Commerce that he closed down and created the WEDC because what Republicans love more than holding onto their money, privatization.
And this shows that a governor coming in who knows how to put the right people in charge can
stabilize a corporation that we didn't need in the first place when you think about it.
But now we do, we have it.
So that's it.
So I mean, that's something that, you know, the Missy Hughes story on top of the Scott Walker story on top of the fact that we collapsed an entire department because they just wanted to, which kind of is what they're doing now in the national level.
I think that would be a really great story.
the side-by-side.
The side-by-side, yes, for
sure.
That would be fascinating.
Yeah, it's... Are you assigning me a story, Jane?
Is that what you're looking at me like?
Hey, I gotta
tell you a great story.
Are you busy?
Do you have anything going
on?
You know, it'd be great if you... I have a
great... It
sounds like what people say, like, Greg, I have a joke you should use.
Okay, so here's the deal.
And I'm like, no!
I do want to share this on the live stream.
Blue Gold 94 says, I agree.
Tommy Thompson wants to be in the mix.
The scary part is he doesn't care whether or not it's in a positive way.
Yeah.
He just wants to be in the spotlight again.
He
misses it.
And
it's unfortunate too, because the level of regard that man has in this state.
I mean, I always compare him to the Ronald Reagan of Wisconsin.
People look at him with such great admiration.
He could have been a great booming voice for GOP and conservative values.
But unfortunately, to be a part of the GOP now, you cannot be the Tommy Thompson of them.
Yeah.
A lot of folks forget that when the whole stadium thing was going on and funding the stadium and Tommy Thompson said, yeah, let's stick it to Milwaukee.
I remember that.
Oh, yeah.
I think a lot of people forgot
that.
People have short memories.
Yes, they do.
And we're here to remind you.
And if Tommy Thompson wants to relive old glory, he should just pull up his speech at Lambeau Field when he was clearly hammered speaking at the 50 yard line of the Packers Super Bowl celebration.
Do you guys remember that one?
No.
Oh man, it's a classic.
You should pull that up on YouTube.
He clearly is a few old fashions deep talking about the Packers.
It's wonderful.
I love this team.
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We were talking about Tommy Thompson now kind of flirting a little more openly with potentially jumping into the governor's race.
He's just lonely.
But we were talking about his appearance when the Packers won the Super Bowl.
I showed these guys a YouTube video
that I should, I would encourage all of you to go check out.
I had completely forgotten about
that.
But go look up Tommy Thompson 1996 Packers Super Bowl.
They had an event at Lambeau and he gives a speech and he is really sounding like a true Wisconsinite who is celebrating and enjoying himself with a few beverages.
He had a couple.
He sounds fine at first and then he just, he hits one word and
you're like, oh, there it is.
of Mount Hora texting, and I was at the stadium for that.
Tommy Thompson said it was because of the cold.
Oh, yes.
And
it was unbelievably cold that day.
I remember that.
It was brutal.
It was brutally cold.
But yeah, no, Tommy.
I've lived here my
whole life, and I've never been able to, I've not been able to speak
because of the cold.
Not been that cold.
He was having a couple of beverages to warm himself up.
Exactly.
So you know why I pulled you over?
Because it's cold and
my driving's bad.
What else is going on in the world of...
Wisconsin lots going on Where do we even start
all of
the stuff that's happening?
I feel like we have this like segment to recombobulate on the news of the week And I'm going to leave it today discombobulated
because there's so much
happening with the shutdown you know you were talking about this before the President Trump's spiritual advisor
like this is gonna get skipped Yeah, because again, and we've talked about this a couple times this week.
There is so much news on a daily basis avalanche of news really difficult
to prioritize what we should cover because we have a limited period of time.
And a lot of things I think end up flying under the radar just because there is so much.
I think this is important.
Robert Morris, this from NBC News.
Robert Morris, who was Donald Trump's one of his spiritual advisors.
Texas mega church pastor pleads guilty to sexually abusing a child
under a plea agreement he was given 10 years, he's gonna serve six months.
He started assaulting this girl when she was 12.
She was 12.
But Jane,
Jane, Jane.
There's more to the story than that.
He's got a story to tell.
He's got thoughts on why this happened.
Well, his lawyer...
In 2007, wrote a letter suggesting the victim bore responsibility for the inappropriate behavior between her and Morris when she was a child.
She was
12.
I really think that's
so infuriating.
Yeah.
And what was the sentence you said?
He got 10
years.
Six
months.
And?
Six months.
He'll serve six months.
That's the... This happens all the time.
All the
time.
It does.
I saw a video of a man who...
in front of his church, a mega church, was admitting to having inappropriate relationships with children.
And he did it in such a way that made it sound like he was sorry and everyone gave him a standing ovation and raised their hand because it felt like he was confessing his sins to them like, no, this is a criminal.
This is a criminal.
This is a flat out criminal who should be in jail because all of you are always talking about
How awful the pedophiles are, and guess what?
They are.
I think we could agree on that.
But when it comes time, when the rubber hits the road and the punishment needs to be doled out, people seem to run
away or say he's safe.
Exactly.
He's repented.
And it's when we forgive him.
If a spiritual advisor to President Biden or President Obama
We're in the same situation, Fox News would run this 24 seven.
24, there would be new networks
popping up on a daily basis, just to talk about this.
And it wouldn't even be the fact that if they had done this, if there was the slightest of accusation, period.
That's it.
That's
all
it would take.
And I think that civic media could have its own show, its own weekend podcast show where they highlight every single week, all of these individuals who
are getting
arrested, charged.
jailed because it's happening all the time.
And there are numerous people within the Trump orbit, maybe not in the administration, but around the Trump orbit who have already been convicted or are accused.
And if you're on Twitter and you want to follow someone who will make your head explode because she does a daily tally of men, lawyers, judges, youth pastors.
Youth coaches.
Cops.
Cops.
It's Not Drag Queens, shockingly.
No Drag Queens.
Her name is Bex.
Beks.
Follow Bex on Twitter.
It will open your eyes in a very, very, very disturbing way.
We will lighten things up, I promise.
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do during a bye week.
Yeah, that's right.
I think the, you know, we've got Packers have the week off.
And I think those
of us in Wisconsin who treasure our Packers Sundays need to recognize the bye week and
plan appropriately.
Plan accordingly.
There's that three hour, three and a half hour gap in the, in your
Sunday.
I mean, it really takes Packers Sunday.
It takes over your whole day.
If you're real Packers, it kind of takes over your whole day, right?
So this weekend, you got to make, you got to do the things that you would normally do if there was no Packers season, like on a weekend.
So I would say this is the weekend, husbands of Wisconsin.
recommend to your wife that you should go to a pumpkin patch.
Okay.
Make
the recommendation on your own.
You'll be
a hero.
You'll be a hero.
And then she'll be
so
thrilled to hear that it was your idea and that you want to go.
What a husband.
And just go celebrate the charming atmosphere of a pumpkin patch in some sort of area in rural Wisconsin.
Greg, what's happening?
Two things.
One, I loved how you started.
husbands, recommend your wives.
And I'm like, Oh, no, where is this going?
Also, if you know me, a pumpkin patches within the brand of Greg box to be like, let's go to a pumpkin patch and drink cider and look at cornfield.
But again, that's a, that's
a great way
to
take up Sunday.
Oh yeah, it is.
It's a, we're going to go at some point this fall.
Yeah.
Do it this weekend while the Packers are on a buy.
You can make the whole day of
it.
It'll be great.
Yeah,
I like that one.
What are your plans for the Packer by week 855-752-4842-855-75 Civic?
That is today's audio sorbet question.
What are your plans for this Sunday?
Are you just going to have to do chores now?
Is that
what it's going to be?
That might be part of it, too.
If you do have house projects, that would be another thing to do.
That's why you want to suggest the Pumpkin Patch first.
More suggestions for the husbands of Wisconsin.
Yeah.
Suggest the Pumpkin Patch first.
Maybe you'll get out of the chores.
That's a great name for husbands of Wisconsin.
An advice show with Dan Scherer.
Andrew from Maine, texting in, listening on WAUK.
If you are bored with the Packers by week, don't forget to cheer for the Lions.
Okay.
Why not?
I mean, I wasn't going to do
that, but
there are Packers
fans who will watch all football all
day
Sunday, even though
the
Packers aren't playing.
That's
another suggestion.
My friends at Milwaukee Record, shout out Milwaukee Record, did a list of 25 things to do during the Packers by and some of it is just promoting events that are happening in and around Milwaukee this weekend, like Adam Sandler playing at Pfizer Forum and things like that.
Other things are just like, get some hot ham and rolls.
As a recommendation that sounds good Go to a movie Stop and smell the coffee.
Okay, do some house projects Watch the WNBA finals.
There's lots of different stuff.
So I would check out that list for
I got it on the show I got
included
in the show notes.
Yeah, I mean from I honestly use if it's a nice I have a project I have a garage project that needs to be done before it gets too cold
But I need, I need a good, I need a nice day out, like a non-rainy day out.
Doesn't
even matter if it's cool.
Even if it was like in the forties, this doesn't matter.
I need to pull the cars out of the driveway and take everything out of the garage.
And I need to clean the walls.
It's just, it's cleaning.
It's like, it's our stuff.
And the floor, I want to clean the floor.
I want to power wash the floor.
And I want to put everything back in a very, if you saw my garage right now, it is on the cusp of disaster.
If I put everything to the left, we can park one car in there.
I want to be able to park both cars in the winter.
So I bought some really nice shelving that I can put on the walls and get stuff off the floor, throw away some paint.
Cause apparently you can't recycle paint.
You just gotta throw it away.
Thanks environment.
But if Sunday is nothing going on, I think that's what I need.
I need to get up and just go right into the garage and start doing it.
And that's, I think that's an important thing too though with chores like that.
Because I am,
If I'm really good at anything, it's procrastination, just ask my husband.
I will put off stuff I have to do for as long as humanly possible.
And if I know I am, it's terrible.
And
if I know I have a chore.
I'll find all kinds of other things to do.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
To avoid doing that chore.
So I think you're really smart and get up and just go right out to the garage and start it.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Because I'll spend, well, I have to check the news first and I'm gonna have my cup of coffee and I'll check the news and then I'll do that for an hour and a half and look, look, I found this thing.
You went down this rabbit
hole.
Yes, and now I
don't have to do my chores.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
I cleaned the dishwasher.
No one asked you to do that, but... But I did.
Someone give me credit.
What are you going to do this
Sunday while the Packers are off 855-752-4842?
What are your plans for the Packer by week?
Roger from Stevens Point, Nicosia is hosting their annual Pump Confess this weekend.
There you go.
That works.
Perfect opportunity.
Liz from Sockville.
See, they timed it out.
Nacusa knows what's up.
Because they saw that package by week.
We said, that's the
first weekend in October.
Let's do it then.
We can sell some pumpkins.
Husbands of Wisconsin.
Liz from Sockville,
Autumn Acoustics Music Festival in Newburgh.
Oh.
Beautiful venue, five bands, food trucks, and treats.
That sounds great.
And it's
going to be a really nice weekend.
I like food trucks and treats.
And treats.
And live music.
And live music.
Oh, good things.
What are you going to do for the Packers by week eight five five seven five two four eight four two.
Michael from Tosa cusp of disaster sounds like a band name.
And they'll be playing in half of my garage this weekend.
So
we
wanted to oh and Jerry says speak easy scavenger hunt in Appleton this weekend.
Sounds like a bar crawl.
Sounds like a fancy bar crawl.
Sounds like fun.
Now we want it.
We got the news got heavy today.
There's a lot going on.
And we're, we're in the middle of audio Sorbet.
We're lighting it up and we're talking about the Packers.
And earlier we talked about a, I would say, you know, there's Reagan speech at the wall, Lincoln's a Gettysburg address.
And then Tommy Thompson's addressing the Green Bay fans in 1996.
We have a small clip for you all, just to give you a proof of what we were talking about.
Calvin, can you play the clip of former governor, Tommy Thompson addressing the good people of Green Bay and the world?
There are 30 teams But only one packer organization
that word
and that is the greatest football organization ever in the Americas history We have the greatest owners the greatest coach the greatest players and the greatest fans
You gotta wipe your mouth after you
hear that, like, oh, did I do
that?
Here comes one more, one more.
This
is America's team in America's state.
There it is.
We are an American state.
We are.
Do you think he added to that line, or do you think
that was
written out beforehand?
Deep
in America, I think he winged
the whole thing.
Guys, I don't know if you heard it, but I did a little improv in that speech.
He never guessed it's American state.
But
again, Tommy Thompson was not alone in possibly imbibing, and it was unbelievably cold
there.
It is a quintessentially Wisconsin moment to see the governor of your state speak like that at Lambeau Field.
I love Wisconsin.
What are you going to be doing on the Packers by week?
Dan, do you have any?
Are you going to be pumpkin farming it up?
Are you going to be hanging out with the fam?
What do you plan on doing this Sunday?
Busy weekend for the fam.
My daughter's birthday is coming up.
So we got her her friend's birthday party this weekend.
And then her birthday is coming up next week.
And are you throwing a huge bash?
We're throwing a moderately sized bash.
So saving the big bash for next year because it'll be your golden birthday.
So
this year we're, you know, she's really into Legos.
So we're having a lot of Lego themed stuff this year, which I'm very excited about.
Does she have a specific kind of Lego she enjoys?
Or is it sort of just a, let's just go for it.
So she'll get into like all of the princess castles.
We've
built pretty much all of the Disney
princess castles
at our house.
I think we have some new ones that she's doing, but now she's started to like not just go.
you know, whatever thing is there, she likes to just build stuff on her own.
That's awesome.
That right there is amazing.
That right there is amazing.
That's awesome.
I
love that.
A little,
a little architect in training.
Yeah.
She said that she said she wants to be an engineer and she's like, I'm excited about
that.
Oh, there we go.
Calvin, do you have any plans for the Packer by this weekend?
Is there anything cooking up in the Butenhof residence for just relaxing?
Well, as a surprise to no one, uh, no, not really.
We'll probably just take it easy.
You know, it is officially October, so maybe I will watch some horror movies or something.
Oh, great.
Which, and like, what would be your horror, what would be your first go-to horror film to get in the mood for Halloween?
To get in the mood for Halloween.
That's a tough question.
I don't really know.
I, I don't, I'm not a big movie rewatcher, especially horror movies.
I will say Hereditary is a very scary, very well-written movie.
So you're not going back to like, I kick it off with Nightmare on Elm Street.
Just
the classics.
Don't be mad at me, but I've never seen I've never seen Friday the 13th Halloween or nightmare I know
I've only seen Halloween is because I've made a deal with my wife to watch one horror movie a year and that was five years ago Yeah, I got you you're fine.
Don't worry about don't ever watch them.
Don't watch any of those movies.
They're scary So she's a she's a horror movie my wife.
She looked like she loves okay.
My wife loves
horror movies so much, but the person who loves horror movies even more is her sister, my sister, Tara.
Tara watches Italian, Portuguese, Spanish horror movies.
She watches all of, like, I can't, I, no.
I don't even understand why, I don't understand why Tara ever became friends with me.
I
don't understand why my wife
married me.
They love horror movies and they just have that thing.
There's something in the brain and I'm not saying it's a bad, in fact, I wish I had it.
There's just a little, there's a little switch.
For me horror movies give me so much anxiety.
I agree.
That I cannot enjoy it.
And there are people out there who's like, I love being scared.
I'm like, I wish I could.
And plus the mythology of these movies are amazing.
They're so fun, whether it's behind the scenes or the actual characters themselves.
And I'm just like, I'm, I'm scared.
I'm like, I put my head in your shoulder.
I'm so scared.
Like at one point.
We start watching Halloween, we got five minutes in, and my wife looked at me and goes, are you gonna be okay?
And then I got a little insulted.
I'm like, this movie was made in 1978, okay?
Let's just be real, and I was fine.
See, but I'm with you, I can't watch horror
movies.
Yeah, I don't like watching them either because it's always just like, well, yeah.
Don't go in that garage with the knives.
I know you
heard the noise in the attic.
Don't go
in the
attic.
You all have cell phones.
Call a cop.
Not going to end well for you.
Maybe it's because I grew up in a funeral home and it's like, no, I have dead bodies downstairs.
I don't need horror
movies.
We're good.
We're good.
I don't need this as an escape.
I have my life.
We can find Mrs. Schmitke down there.
When we return, this shouldn't be a thing is how we're
to wrap things up today it is the socket to me edition stay close you are listening to Matt and air on air this is the civic media radio network we'll be right back
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And this is just a message to the Cubs out there.
If you want to just stop now, give up and say, you know what, we're fine.
This is a good season anyways.
It was fun.
It was great.
It was all about the playing together as a team and just, you know, the spirit of the great of America's pastime.
I got you.
I respect that.
So if you want to quit now, gotcha.
And all those people from the North side who are afraid of Chicago, stay home.
You're good.
You don't have to come up here.
Yeah, you know the suburbs is my burbs.
Just stay stay in Illinois.
I hear there's like a
Olive Garden where you live.
There's a
lot of things
going on in
more than Illinois this weekend.
You don't need to come up.
Coming up on the show on Monday, Civic Media News director Shaly Pittman is going to be here to recap things from the weekend.
And in hour number two, we're going to talk about bookbends because this has not gone away.
Yeah.
No,
no,
no.
And it's again, it's one of the numerous things that kind of gets lost in the other firehose of news.
That's coming all the time, but we're going to be talking to Jackie Leiden along with several other folks.
And we're also going to hear from a school psychologist about the effect this has on kids.
Because that's who we're all concerned about, right?
Our children.
So we're going to talk about book bans and the ramifications of that.
In some community, they have banned the diary of Anne Frank.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think what you just said was very important, too.
It hasn't gone away.
We've just moved our attention because there's so much happening.
There's so much other stuff.
And this is how they like it.
Absolutely.
When you're not looking and all of a sudden you're like, hey, where's that book?
Oh, it's banned.
What?
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Monday, 10.06.
10.06.
Yep.
Join us for that.
Please.
It is 10.55, Calvin.
It is getting very late.
That means it's time for... This shouldn't be a thing.
Should you find a thing you think should not be, send it in to Greg and me, as Jane says at civicmedia.us.
Calvin found this from nj.com.
The headline reads, New Jersey Toll Cheat Used Socks To Avoid Paying $18,000 Cops Say The Scam Stinks.
The 51 year old New Jersey man who racked up more than $18,000 in unpaid tolls was arrested a couple of weeks ago.
Here's what he did.
He put a pair of socks and he hung them over his license plate to just block out like two numbers
or
two letters.
The 51-year-old pulled over after authority police said they noticed black socks stretched over the license plate on his white Mercedes Benz.
Okay.
He did not have an easy pass and used the socks to dodge toll cameras.
They determined he owes Port Authority over $18,000.
He's been charged with theft of services
tampering with a government document driving on a suspended license, and improper display of plates.
He's also announced he's going to run for governor of New Jersey next year.
I just think it's very funny that this guy thought to himself, and I'll do the accent.
Hey, man, you should put some sacks over my license plate.
It'll work.
It's not like they can't look at the car, the color, the driver, the other numbers on the license itself.
Yeah, they did fine to me.
He just don't understand why.
I would be an awesome criminal because I think of other things to...
Bob a broader scope.
Yeah.
And also $18,000.
So what?
He went to New York three times.
So that's how much he knows.
That's probably far off.
That's a cost of living joke right there.
But again, you
know, you're driving, you're driving a Mercedes Benz.
Yeah.
Maybe you can afford the toll.
The easy pass.
Okay.
I'm, okay.
I'm not here shilling for a big easy pass.
But having one of those passes on your car makes so much sense.
First of all, you get in and out cheaper.
Second of all, it's always there.
It replenishes your car automatically.
If you drive over Mercedes Benz and you have black socks, you can afford it.
I just, you know, and you know, and you know he was telling everyone, you know he was at bar saying, you never really what I did.
And they're like, I've never paid at all.
You've also never paid child support, Vincent ever.
That wraps up today's episode of...
This shouldn't be a
thing.
You're gonna try and cheat on tolls.
Try, maybe not socks.
Maybe try something else.
I mean, just don't pay.
No, just pay.
I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, oh, alright, alright, let me rephrase.
You should always pay your tolls, pay your fees, pay your fines, live up to the responsibilities you have.
But if you're going to cheat the system, why instant, like, why bring socks into it?
How can you think that's a mastermind idea?
Good
lord!
Alright, thank you, Greg.
And Calvin and all of our engineers and everyone at Civic Media without you, nothing works.
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She has thrown her hat into the ring to run for Wisconsin governor.
She made the announcement on our friend and colleague Todd Alba's show not a month ago.
So Senator Kelder Royce joining us after the 10 o'clock news for audio survey today.
Also in hour number two, bad money was announced as the new NFL Super Bowl halftime entertainment.
It's causing some rippling.
Stir.
There's a stir.
Uh, we're going to talk about that a little bit in audio survey.
And then I want to, we want to hear about your, what was your favorite Super Bowl show?
If that is your thing.
Yeah.
What was your favorite Super Bowl show?
Startin' thinkin' about it now.
That's coming up with Audio Sorbet.
After 10.30, we will wrap up the show as we always do, but this shouldn't be a thing.
Today it's the, there's no law for this edition.
Gonna be a lot of those coming, I think.
So stay tuned for that.
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You know, groceries are...
really expensive right now mm-hmm you know what would be really handy what's that I know extra 200 bucks in cash how do they get that Jane it is so easy all you need is the civic media app you go to wherever you get your apps go to your app store I get them from pick and save okay download the civic media app
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Warm.
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W-A-R-M.
Warm.
Warm.
Warm, not worm.
Warm.
That's true, I guess, yeah.
W-A-R-M's spelling counts.
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W-A-R-M.
That's the word, Greg.
I know,
I know, but you are... I feel like you're purposely saying that.
Because I say warm.
Warm.
Yeah, but you're saying warm.
Fine.
It's spelled the same.
I know.
It's W-A-R-M.
Jane, I'm simply finding
something you're
doing very funny.
That's
fine.
And it makes my heart
warm.
I'm glad it makes you warm.
Warm is the word.
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Thank you.
All right.
It is highly likely that the government is going to shut down tonight.
No, seriously, we just went from like laughter to that.
Well, this is the reality
of the situation.
It is.
Yeah, and it's, you know, and it's the faults.
There should be faults laid down.
Plenty of blame.
Plenty
of blame.
Let's point fingers.
We're good at that.
We are good at pointing fingers.
And actually, there is someone who has a very, very strong opinion on whose responsibility it is if there is a government shutdown.
Is it like a...
Like a senator
or a congressman someone you will recognize really the current president of the United States had some opinions about government shutdowns in 2013 and Who is to blame for that Kelvin?
Let's play that clip, please
Who's gonna bear the brunt of the responsibility if indeed there is a shut down of our government?
Well, if you
say who gets fired it always has to be the top I mean problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top and the president's the leader
And he's got to get everybody in a room and he's got to leave.
You know, the interesting thing is in 25 years and 50 years and 100 years from now, when the government is, you know, they talk about the government shutdown, they're going to be talking about the president of the United States.
Who is the president at that time?
They're not going to be talking who the head of the house was, the head of the Senate, who's running things in Washington.
So I really think the pressure is on the president.
Donald Trump in 2013.
talking about whose fault it is if there is a government shutdown, which is likely going to happen tonight.
And I know it's not, he said 25, 50 years from now, but that was 12 years ago when the government shut down.
Barack Obama was president.
And granted, there's ample place to point your finger at him.
That's fine.
But who was in control?
of the purse strings in 2013, I think it was Republicans.
I believe it was.
Who is in control of every branch of the government, including the Supreme Court right now.
Yeah, so the White House, the Senate, and the House, all under Republican control.
So I feel like if we're going to apply 2013 logic, and I'm using that word logic real loosely here, whether it comes down to Trump, if we apply that logic to what's happening today,
I mean, it just makes sense.
I mean, are we going to fire the president?
Are we going to fire, are we going to fire them all?
I mean, should we start at the top?
It seems like, I mean, now is a, there's never been a better time to invoke the words of president now, former president, uh, Truman, which was the buck stops here.
All right.
I
don't know.
We're just pointing out what he said, unless he's changed his mind.
I mean, who knows?
It's
a long time ago.
That's a Fox and Friends thing.
So that was the morning by afternoon.
He could be like,
who is the president of the United States?
That's a good point.
So what is going to happen?
What is this going to mean for you here in Wisconsin?
If the federal government shuts down at midnight, the first thing is probably going to be if you're going to be traveling.
and especially air traffic controllers, aircraft inspection, FAA reviews, things like that.
Air traffic controllers and about 50,000 TSA workers are among the government workers who will have to keep working but won't get paid.
But in the past, that has led to some what they call sick outs.
where at some point they kind of get tired of working for nothing, even though they are supposed to get paid retroactively.
Yeah,
which we'll see.
This administration loves paying for services rendered.
Well, now the administration is essentially saying that if people get laid off, they're just going to fire them.
Well, and then blame it on the Democrats.
Well,
and then in one month, two months, three months, four weeks, five days, a minute and a half after they do that, they're going to tell them to come back because they need them.
This has been happening since
January since doge came into the building fire them quote save money and then like oh no I forgot rockets need to land darn it we need to bring them back weather needs to be forecasted nuclear codes need to be protected we should get those individuals back there are stories after story of of the government having to hire people back that they fired that they fired and by the way
When you fire someone, that's a cost.
When you rehire them, it's a cost.
When you hire a new person, that's a cost.
That all costs us money.
Doge saved us nothing.
These are terrible, non-long-term planning measures that they are inflicting upon us.
And by the way, Jane, I don't know about you, but I don't think the air traffic control problems that have been happening over the past six, seven months are gonna get any better if we fire more people.
This is
from Reuters, by the way.
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said Friday, he's worried a shutdown will jeopardize air traffic training.
No, really?
What?
Hundreds of air traffic control trainees at the Academy in Oklahoma City could be furloughed, causing significant delays in the training pipeline and worsen ongoing air traffic controller staffing crisis because we do not have enough air traffic controllers.
So they shut this down.
all of their training stops.
And this
is
one aspect
by the way.
The FAA right now, right, and we're only talking about the FAA.
Right now the FAA is about 3,800 air traffic controllers short, almost 4,000.
But that's okay.
That's okay.
And don't believe the Republicans when their whole thing now is that Democrats want to restore
The subsidies to the ACA which is Obamacare so they can cover illegal immigrants medical costs
No, that's not a thing.
No, that's that's really not a thing
No, because what's going to happen is that if you are on traditional insurance that you like that is non ACA acquired your premiums are going to go up period Yes, all of our premiums are going up if you're on the ACA They're gonna go up even more and people on the ACA got a tax credit every year to help afford those payments That tax credit is either going to be lowered or gotten rid of yes, so they need help and senator Baldwin
Representative Pokan and many others are trying to make those tax credits permanent, you know, like the tax cuts that we give the billionaires Let's make a simple tax cut for for for regular folks permanent accessible and and and Do a good
job.
Well, and I've seen reports that say premiums could go up 90% I mean 90%
I've seen I haven't seen those per se I've seen 20 to 25% But the fact fact is if you're on the ACA your premiums are going up
A lot.
So, yeah, what, again, from a politician standpoint, Jane, I don't understand this.
If you just make those tax credits permanent, they cost barely anything to this country.
And then you get to say, hey, we helped you.
And then you can do, then burn your 15th boat with your 14th boat.
I don't care, but like these little things that you can do,
by not doing them and then also lying about them and saying it's illegal aliens who are taking our healthcare.
It's just bunk.
I almost swore.
I almost said the C word.
Calvin, watch that dump button, just in case we want to... How it was raised.
I think the C word's a swear word.
Remain FCC friendly here.
You can always join the conversation, 855-752-4842, especially if you are on the ACA.
Yes, please.
We want to hear from you.
I would love to hear from you because my husband and I were on it for a brief period of time when I was in between jobs.
It was not inexpensive.
I mean, even with a subsidy, it was not, you know, we didn't pay $50 a
month.
Well, and that's the thing too the lies they've been spreading and I'm thinking of a conversation that Speaker Robin boss had with Lou Ann Bird earlier this year.
No last year lying to her face saying that People are on Medicaid and Medicare and all this stuff.
Obamacare is free.
It's not free.
It was never it was never free and spinning that yarn
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Before we went to the break, we were talking about the impending government shutdown, which unless there is a deal made and it seems somewhat unlikely at this point, that's not going to happen.
So what is this going to mean for people here in Wisconsin?
What does this mean for folks in Wisconsin?
This is from NPR.
If you're planning on international travel and you don't have a passport yet, I'd do it today.
US passport agencies will stay open if the government shuts down, but it's going to take a lot longer to get your application processed and employees furloughed.
So if you have been thinking about applying for a passport, I would do it today.
Yeah.
Just jump on it, get it done.
It can take several months.
Yes.
Normally?
Yeah.
So if there's going to be slowdowns because of a government shutdown, it could take some time.
So we want to make sure that you're okay with that.
And it's better to do.
I personally believe it's better to get your passport when you don't need it than it is to, because we all know people who are like, I need a passport in like a month.
I'm like, good luck.
Yeah, it's tough to get it in a month.
So yeah, it's better to do it now, even if you don't need it, because then you have it.
Exactly.
And it lasts
for 10 years.
And if you don't have the...
Star on your driver's license now.
Yeah, you can't fly domestically.
Well, yeah, and no the TSA is kind of like we you and I spent like a good amount of weeks making this to seem like a thing that was going to happen like we were going to see But that's what we were told yeah, and then the day after when the whole thing took effect TSA was like that's not that big of a deal Just do it next time would you because they can't they can't stop
thousands of people from flying.
They could.
Yes, they could.
Do you want that on your shoulders?
My goodness.
No, thank you.
According to this article, naturally, the biggest impacts are going to be felt by federal workers and active duty military service members who won't get a paycheck during the government shutdown.
Again, in years past when this has happened, they have been paid retroactively, but still, if the government shutdown goes down for two months and you don't have money coming in, they still have to pay bills.
Well, and I'm sorry, but look at the track record, Jane.
I'm sorry, but if these folks go without pay, doing their jobs,
I do not believe that this administration is going to make it a priority to get those individuals reimbursed.
They are going to Hem and Haw tell them, well, if you loved your country, you would just give up the time and give it the money.
We could use it.
We want to be rich again and it'll come back to you in another way.
I do not see these individuals unless there's a court order or someone finds a zero and a one that says, press that and they will just get automatically reimbursed.
I can see this administration.
trying to snake people out of a total of millions of dollars in reimbursements.
Even though if you listen to our president and we're going to talk about this in the
next half hour,
we've taken in trillions, trillions, trillions with a T in tariffs.
It's on the tariff shelf, according to our president.
Is
that a, that's a technical term.
He calls it the tariff shelf.
I just have a spy shelf and so apparently they're just wads of cash.
on our tariff shelf that's available well when we went alone 20 billion dollars to Argentina we got money for that we've got money for the really shiny gold decorations in the oval office now that
world leaders are apparently so impressed
with.
Disgusting.
It's so gaudy.
It's so disgusting.
It's so obnoxious.
PJ on the live stream, and you make some good points.
PJ Passports are expensive.
They are.
An adult passport costs $165 for a first-time passport, $130 to renew by mail or online, also a $35 acceptance fee for first-time applicants, and a $60 optional fee to expedite it.
Don't get that if you don't need it, please.
And a fee for one to two day delivery of the passbook
if
you need it faster.
That's why I say get it when
you don't need it because.
You don't want to be Russian for this.
And the fees and the fees are just they pile up.
So yes, it is absolutely an expense.
There's no doubt about it, but it is important to have it.
And it's.
It's a good thing to have.
Yeah, I really, it really is.
And PJ makes a good point.
Not everybody can afford a passport.
No, they can't.
But that's, you know, we're talking to 250 almost, you know, that it adds up.
There's a lot of folks who just don't have that extra cash on hand.
We will see what happens.
Maybe something will happen today.
The president just got done addressing our military members, some of whom flew thousands of miles to hear from our secretary of war,
Pete Henson.
Defense, I will never call him that.
It's disgusting.
And we'll be talking more about that probably tomorrow.
It was like a Timu
Apple release, if you
ask me.
We have news coming up next, and then we will return with...
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Truly.
Seriously.
Truly.
Is
he alright?
Yeah.
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Thank you.
Way down among Brazilians, coffee beans grow by the billions, so they've got to find those extra cups to fill.
They've got an awful lot of coffee in Brazil.
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Before we move on, we do have a clarification from Civic Media News director, Shali Pittman.
Yes, Shali was on earlier in the first hour talking about data centers and there was going to be, there was going to be a meeting in Caledonia regarding data centers.
We spoke about an open records request relating to water usage.
in the matter of Caledonia.
It was actually, so I'm going to read exactly what she said.
While there was a delay with the announcement of Microsoft being behind the Caledonia data center, the open records case related to the data center in Mount Pleasant, the city of Racine did release records to Midwest environmental advocates.
It's very important for all of us, especially not just Charlie as a news person, but us as us being news adjacent.
to be very, very on key, very on point and make those distinctions and those corrections.
So she asked us to read that and we did.
It had been corrected.
So you fully informed.
Please, if you live in Mount Pleasant, anywhere that's looking to get a data center, make yourself aware.
They're doing a hard push via the lobbying, making it sound great.
There are there are conversations that can be had but if it concerns you talk to your elected officials
Absolutely, and if there have meetings about it I would highly encourage you to go to any meetings about this and the mining meeting that they're gonna have in in northern, Wisconsin as well That's something that that I think folks who live up there need to get involved with It is the time of the show that we like to call audio sorbet What happens at audio sorbet we get away from the news we take a break take a breath
and talk about something else.
We clean ya is with fun!
As we say, you're un-mantin' here on air.
Is that
too loud?
I feel like I'm doing it right into the microphone.
I mean, that voice that just runs in, that does that, I don't know who it was, it was a person.
He just comes, he shoves his way in, we don't
know who it was.
He
leaves a
sandwich every time, it's great.
So, audio survey today, today is...
National Coffee Day!
Didn't know that.
National Coffee Day.
So we want to talk about your coffee habits.
Do you drink coffee?
Maybe you don't.
Maybe you're like David Drake who's never
had hot beverages in his life.
He doesn't do hot beverages.
He's never had cocoa?
He was a deprived child.
Oh, we need to...
Should we send him some?
Let's get him some cocoa people.
I'll send, I'll even spring for the little marshmallows.
Do you drink coffee?
How much coffee do you drink?
And now that coffee prices are already up 20%.
20%.
Will you be changing your coffee habits?
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
That's our question for you today.
During Audio Sorbet, we're talking coffee.
How much do you drink?
How do you drink it?
And will you change your habits now that coffee prices are on the rise?
Wanted to share this from Robert from La Crosse listening on WLCX.
He texted in much earlier.
He said, I drink only black tea.
And there's a lot of caffeine in tea.
So if you're looking for some coffee substitute, tea is not a bad way to
go.
Yeah.
I mean, tea is great.
I mean, if you're the Ted Lasso type who thinks it's just hot brown water, I get that too.
I actually a really good one for antioxidant.
Wow.
People are really good for antioxidants.
White tea.
I have never
heard of white tea.
It's
very, very good.
Very.
Yeah.
Antioxidants galore.
What does
it taste like?
It tastes like.
tea.
Yeah, I actually I really like tea.
I always tell myself to drink more tea.
And then I don't even though I have all the contraptions that allow me to make a convenient cup of tea in my home.
And I just do not because and I will admit this.
I am a I am I don't want to I don't want to engender this with an insult.
I am a baby coffee drinker.
I'll say that I don't drink black coffee.
I drink
sweetened coffees.
I use sweetened creamers, and I do not enjoy the taste of a black cup of coffee.
It's very, even the, don't come at me with your- The best.
Todd Alma
would dispute that.
But that's the thing is like, is when we went on our trip, the three of us, he did make wonderful coffee, and I did drink, and the good stuff when made correctly can have less bitterness and all that stuff, and I imbibed it.
But me, I'm like, I'm gonna hand me a sweet creamer, because I want to taste it like a shake.
You
know?
How do you consume your coffee is our audio survey question.
Isaac from Baraboo texted in, I drink one to two cups of coffee a day with a French press.
I used to buy single origin ground coffee from a high-end brand.
But now with the current coffee prices, I buy fair trade from my local grocery store.
Thanks for that, Isaac.
Appreciate it.
How do you coffee?
Throw us your suggests if you got local good companies
that
you like send them our way We always want to know about them and you were talking about the prices going up and I'm not here to Dunk on anyone, but there's a certain coffee company that is a
the color of coffee, a gun and company.
I'm not going to say them out loud, but you can figure it out.
But they were very, they're very much Trump supporters.
And they were like, we're not going to raise our prices a single bit because we source them all over the world,
not
just Columbia.
Well,
they are raising their prices as of this fall.
And that sucks because one, they have to do that.
Two, you kind of have to eat your words.
So I feel like instead of coming hard for it all, realize that this, these tariffs,
are going to affect us.
I don't mean to get, I'm sorry, I know it's Sorbet, but that's an important point of this coffee price thing.
It affects your kitchen table economy.
Well, tariffs are affecting all of us.
Even though we don't pay for them, guys.
We are talking coffee.
How do you coffee?
It is a national coffee day at 855-752-4842.
Troy from Mount Horab, you were first in.
Good morning, Troy.
Let's talk coffee.
Good morning.
My earliest memories.
ever We're sitting with my grandma She used to drink Folger's instant.
Oh, she had a little and this was in the 70s now.
Yep.
I'm like three or four and We used to have peanut butter toast for breakfast with coffee and she used to boil the water in this little pan that they're a little pot that you only had for boiling water and we used dunk our
toast in it with a lot of condensed milk and sugar.
That
sounds like my cup of coffee
ever since.
And I'm only five-eight, so maybe that had something to do
with that.
You would have been six-four otherwise, Troy.
You would have been so much taller.
Do you remember where the four-folder crystals, the ones with the sparkly ones?
Yeah
Because I remember my mother used it my mother used to do that that was I was fascinated with the sparkles in the in the instant coffee
That was a selling point back in the day too.
They're like Folger crystals.
I'm like at ease Those are the moments as a kid.
I don't know about you Troy or Eugene or anybody listening Those were like one of those moments in my tiny kid brain where I said to myself this sounds stupid like why do we care if you're
Because
it
was pretty.
Exactly.
Exactly.
They just want to make your coffee
look sparkly.
Drinkable.
Exactly.
Thank you so much, Troy.
Really appreciate that.
Brought back a lot of memories.
My mother's drink.
My mother drank Folgers.
That instant.
We had Folgers instant.
We had the big pot.
And then the big can.
And then when the can was done, we'd use that for oil from cooking.
We put all
of the oil in there.
Absolutely.
I though anytime someone mentions...
The word Sanka?
Someone says, I'll take a cup of Sanka.
Usually it says a joke or it's an old movie.
It makes me laugh so hard because it's such a deep 70s, 80s reference to me.
Yes.
That to hear it in 2025, like I'll take a cup of Sanka.
Really?
Well, and I just find it so interesting that they actually convinced the public that these coffee granules were better than the actual thing.
What do you mean?
That coffee granules are more authentic than an actual coffee bean.
Cuz that's what they convinced the public buy these coffee crystals instead of buying regular coffee.
I thought it was coffee with crystals in them.
No, no, no, they're coffee crystals.
Oh It's it's instant coffee.
Oh, I oh, oh my okay.
My parents didn't okay.
My apologies I got we're all about truth and advertising and news here.
My parents did not do instant folders.
We did folders
Drip oh in the big
canister But
yeah also yeah instant coffee just I mean I never made a successful instant cup of hot cocoa or anything in my life You always had to put more and more and more and I feel like
instant coffee's just gonna be like, mmm, it's chewy.
Well, and it was very, there's a very specific taste to it.
And I think that kind of played into the whole 60s, 70s, space food sticks and all of that stuff in the instantaneous.
There was
this big, yes, this big, we have to, it's gotta be a.
and a miracle thing.
This coffee tastes like flying cars.
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How do you coffee?
Maybe you don't.
And are you going to cut back now that coffee prices are already up 20%?
Al from Campbell Sport is on the line.
Good morning, Al.
Thanks so much for joining us.
Let's talk
coffee.
Good morning.
Enjoy your show.
Thank
you.
I make a 30 cup percolator pot.
of coffee.
And that lasts me a probably a week.
Okay.
Okay.
So, so that's, and I like the one the end.
Yeah, yeah.
That's my best.
So do you, Al, do you drink ones?
Okay, so you you you pre make all your coffee, and you drink it through the week.
For you and I'll ask you Jane and anyone else listening.
When is your cutoff?
You're like, I can't drink it after 2 p.m.
Or I can't drink it after noon I got it like I know people who drink coffee at 8 o'clock at night don't understand but do you have a cutoff then for you like you do you parse it out like five cups a day or six cups a day and then you're done by a certain time
Yeah, right, probably around eight o'clock.
I quit and then I drink water or a bubbler.
I drink bubbler.
Have you ever
heard that?
Yeah, I have, yeah.
I haven't heard of
that.
I like that.
Wild cherry, that's really good.
Yeah, it's like a
fizzy
water.
Yeah, it's tasty.
Eight o'clock, okay.
Okay, that's good though, Al.
I'm glad you followed it up with you drink water then too because I think that's another important thing.
I know when I haven't had enough water after coffee because my mouth is dry, I can't.
It's
very dehydrated.
It's
very dehydrated.
It's so delicious.
Al, thank you so much for calling.
Jane, you're a pretty regular coffee
drinker.
I've gone back and forth.
When I was in college, that's when I started.
I never drank coffee before until I got into college.
And then I stopped for a really long time.
And then when I moved to Milwaukee and started at the radio station, and I was working over nights.
Then I really hit coffee hard.
Yeah.
And that was when I found if I didn't drink it on weekends, I would get crushing headaches, crushing, just really debilitating headaches.
I did not.
Caffeine is a very, very powerful drug.
It's addictive.
People drink it
in.
And I did not start drinking coffee until I was 38.
And I don't even remember why I decided then.
Leslie, you wanted to stop growing.
I wanted to stop growing.
Yeah, I'd be like
eight foot 12
right now.
He would be at maybe 11 feet.
Yeah, exactly.
I couldn't fit in the
room.
So yeah, but now I quit.
It's because I'm quitting sugar, not because I'm quitting coffee.
Andrew from Maine texted in how I coffee with iced tea.
I've tried coffee a few times, never developed the taste for it.
I do not see a point in drinking sugar unless it's in chocolate milk.
Fair enough, Andrew.
And Ollie from the North Woods, you're going to wrap it up for us, Ollie, on this audio survey.
How do you coffee?
Well, when we were kids, we didn't coffee.
We weren't allowed.
We had tea and toast for breakfast with canned milk.
But when we came back to the States then and visited, we always went to my mom's relatives.
And there was always a big, huge, huge
enamel pot of coffee on the wood stove filled with coffee grounds and some eggs maybe
eggshells yep eggshells
in the coffee
Ollie we're running out of time I'm so sorry to cut you off thank you so very much for joining us really really appreciated
that wraps up
today's audio survey coming up next we're gonna wrap it all up with this shouldn't be a thing cover me edition you're listening to Matt and air on air this is the civic media radio network we will be right back
So you let to the local color, serve some coffee with a crawler, Duncan doesn't take a lot of skill.
They've got an awful lot of coffee.
Good morning.
Welcome back to Matt and air on air Jane Matt and air Greg bonk our one our only calzone on the board Coming to you from our studio at radio park in Racine join us caller text at 855-752-4842 Leave a comment if you're watching in the live stream on Facebook YouTube and what used to be Twitter coming up on the show tomorrow.
It is Thursday 2nd of October
It's
the second of October.
You don't know this song.
I just made it.
It's the second of October.
It is October today.
Oh my gosh.
A friend colleague host of Amicus the Law Review, Jim Santel, is going to be joining us.
There's a lot to cover with Jim Santel.
He might just stick
around for five to seven hours.
Yeah, it could be.
Hour number two, we'll lighten it up.
JR Radcliffe will be here, the Acme packing companies.
JR Radcliffe to talk all things sports.
And then we'll wrap it up.
where we are right now with this shouldn't be a thing and don't forget coming up after 11 o'clock Tom Hartman is going to have another keyword for you for our multi-state text to win go for the green and gold contest be listening to Tom 11 to 1 or 11 to 12 and then 1 to 2 you'll have a new word for you in both those hours you have to use the civic media app
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Pete Schwabba at 7 o'clock, even before that exciting thing on Pete Schwabba's show.
Yeah.
There's something happening on his show tonight at 6.30.
Oh, there's something big happening.
Cal, Cal, can I get the, I didn't, I didn't ask you for this.
Can I get the drum roll again?
What's
happening tonight on Pete Schwabba's show, Nightlight at 6.30.
I will be on the show!
What a downer, seriously.
What
a waste of a hot- Oh, that's
great!
Yeah, I'll be on the show at 635 with Pete to talk about the Milwaukee Comedy Festival, starting next, unofficially Monday, with the roast of Milwaukee, but then on Tuesday we kick it off officially, the 20th anniversary, the 20th festival.
A partner named Charlotte, who has been on TV, been in movies, wrote a wonderful book, kicks it off at Lakefront Brewery.
But we'll be talking more about that in the coming days.
But on Pete's show tonight, 635, I'll be there talking with him about that, the festival as well as comedy.
Cause we always talk about comedy cause
he and I are
both standups and a lot in common on that level, but I'm very much looking forward to.
Seeing him and talking to him, and also just a really quick thing too, depending on how the game goes today, we may know who the Brewers play this Saturday.
If the Cubs win game too, I will be very not
happy.
You won't be the only one.
So yeah.
Join Pete Schwab at tonight nightlight at 6.30.
Learn all about the Milwaukee Comedy Festival.
Let's go support our comics.
It is late Kelvin, 10.55.
That means it's time for...
This shouldn't be a thing.
Should you ever find a thing you think should not be?
Send it into Greg and me.
Jane says at civicmedia.us.
This is from huckmagazine.com.
Watch your mouth.
Calvin found this one.
Headline reads, vibrations and victories at the World Worm Charming Championships.
Maybe we don't need legal marijuana.
On the flat green expanse of a school playing field in Cheshire, England,
A crowd armed with French horns, recorders, pogo sticks, and pitchforks are preparing for the annual, the 46th annual World Worm Charming Championships.
For the next 30 minutes, every square meter can make the difference between glory and going home warmless.
Wait, what?
Wait a minute.
Teams have 30 minutes.
To coax as many worms as possible from a designated 3x3 meter plot, no digging, no use of water, instead worms have to be charmed by vibrations, which the organizer says works because the worms think it's raining, so then they come out.
There's the traditional twanging.
Driving a garden fork into the ground and then rhythmically vibrating it so the soil shivers like rain Some prefer music from high of Monica's to heavy metal blasted through speakers Others prefer stamping on it with a variety of footwear The 75 year old organizer mr. Forster That's his full name co-founded the event in the early 80s
When asked why
he did it, he's
like, man, cocaine is
amazing.
Amazingly, it's quite awe-inspiring to watch the worms come out.
Everything you see is true.
We just enhance it a little bit and make it a little bit more magical.
He has seen the championships grow from a small village out of the to now a Guinness World Record holding spectacle.
That doesn't mean anything.
Guinness, whatever.
Don't be
dissing a warm championship.
This should not be a thing, is it not?
3,000 people turned out last year.
The worms are carried at the counting tent after the event, where volunteers sift through them looking for the winner.
Last year, the winning plot produced 71 worms that were brought to the surface by tapping garden forks with rubber mallets.
You will include the link in the show.
Oh, yeah, you need
this in your life When asked for comment the worms were like can you just leave us alone
that wraps up today's episode of
This shouldn't be a thing.
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