It’s Always Been About Being Resilient. (Hour 2)

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Point a topic that I'm gonna be discussing through the first half hour of the show and it has to do with health care It has to do with rural hospitals.

It has to do with health care costs and what we're gonna be seeing

over the next year or two because of the big bill for billionaire, as well as what our actual working senator in Wisconsin is doing to try to help those who get their coverage through the marketplace to the Affordable Care Act.

We're gonna be talking about that.

And then with Pat Cricklow, we're gonna break it down a little bit more, including how $50 billion apparently

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It's not enough.

It won't do the work it needs to do.

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His name is Brian Wadsworth.

And we're going to talk to him and we're going to extend the conversation that we had with Robert Pilate and Kate Riley about the closure of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

It's being shut down.

It's no longer receiving funding.

Their funding has been zeroed out because of the big bill for billionaire Donald Trump wants to get rid of it because it's woke.

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And Brian is from native public media.

And we're going to talk about not only what the closure will do for native stations around the country, including the one right here in Wisconsin, WOBJ, but also the handshake deal they made with a South Dakota Senator to save it.

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Should they just give up, throw their phone into the nearest body of water and just walk away?

Well, they shouldn't do that, but they should start off by seriously reconsidering their life choices up to this point.

Yeah, I would say if you don't have the app, what are you doing?

After that...

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I don't know what it contains yet, but.

You heard it here first.

Yeah, exactly.

We have to look out for the release in 2020 or something.

Yeah, that is what comes maybe sometime.

But no, you can text, you can call, you can leave a voice note, and you can listen to any civic media station that you would like.

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towards fun, frivolity and information like this.

So I said, I said a moment ago that we're going to talk about this for a little while.

And I want to get, I want to get into this because, uh, you know, I'd say, you know, whether we're talking about Wisconsin or we're talking about the nation, I think if you're going to discuss top three concerns that really kind of bind us as a citizen, as a citizen's re as a people, as a community, kind of regardless, I mean, no, regardless of who you voted for.

Healthcare is probably up there.

It's always going to be in the top three.

And it seems as if, and this should be no shock to anyone, that because of the industry, because of the way that the healthcare industry lobbies, the way we receive our healthcare through employers and not through a single payer system, not through a nationalized healthcare program, we pay our costs.

And those costs go up.

And I wanted to share some really quick information for you.

In 2023, the what's called the NHE, National Healthcare Expenditures grew 7.5%, which comes to 4.9 trillion with a T, T as in toy, trillion dollars in 2023.

Medicare spending grew 8.1% to 1.

one point a little a little less than a billion dollars and Medicaid spending grew eight hundred and seventy one point seven billion dollars.

That's about seven point nine percent.

I'm telling you all this because as if you are lucky enough to have your healthcare through an employer, our healthcare is going to go up.

That is just a fact of life.

That is what is going to happen.

It's what always is going to happen.

And that is not easy for us to deal with.

It's gonna go up probably about 6%.

That's what they're saying according to the facts that I'm looking at, which by the way, all these facts and figures will be in the show notes today.

I've got a lot of information, a lot of rundowns.

But a group of people whose healthcare will go up even more.

And I would like, and I'd like to hear from all of you, if you, you know,

How are you dealing with your healthcare costs going up?

I feel like you just kind of have to deal with it and move on.

But as we've seen in stories and we've talked to people, individuals who have to pay for their healthcare have to then start negotiating what else they can pay for.

Can they pay rent this month?

Can they pay for groceries?

Can they pay for back to school supplies?

What are you doing to mitigate these rising costs?

And I want to bring up the folks who are on the marketplace who take part in the Affordable Care Act.

According to a new analysis published on August the 6th by the Peterson Center on Healthcare, found that health insurance marketplace insurers will propose a medium premium increase of, wait for it, 18% for 2026.

So if you are a folks who are not on the ACA, you're gonna see an increase, they're saying around 6.5%.

That's a lot.

But if you are on the marketplace, you can see increases anywhere between 15 to 18% based on preliminary findings.

This proposal more than doubles last year, 7% median proposed increase.

This information, by the way, comes from the American Hospital Association.

This will also be in the show notes.

And if you're not on the ACA, you might not know that there are tax credits available called...

their premium tax credits for those who have their insurance on the ACA.

And those are looking to sunset at the end of the year.

So your healthcare would be going up if you're on the ACA.

On top of that, your tax credits will go away, which would skyrocket those premiums for those people who have to take place, who take part in the Affordable Care Act.

They may or may not be able to afford it and that comes back to the discussion point of what can I afford this month?

Can I afford health care?

Can I afford groceries?

Can I afford rent?

Can I afford childcare?

Luckily we have one senator in this state I'd like to just say Calvin that we just have one senator, but I can't legally because it's not true We have two but we have one who is working for us for the people regardless of who we voted for

Senator Baldwin, Tammy Baldwin, our junior Senator, and I hate having to call her that because that just feels way disrespectful because she's a senior and amazing junior and amazing Senator Tammy Baldwin in the Wisconsin Examiner, Eric Gunn with the byline Baldwin's legislation would extend tax credits that cut affordable care act insurance costs because these tax credits help mitigate the costs of this insurance gotten through the American, the affordable care act.

These tax credits will lower the cost of premiums with folks who have incomes up to 400% of the federal poverty guideline.

These premium tax credits were supercharged in part far greater saving, will impart far greater savings to people buying insurance to the marketplace.

And these tax credits from 2022 are looking to sunset this year.

This is all in the article in the Wisconsin Examiner by Eric Gunn.

I'm going to put that also in the show notes.

These tax breaks,

Save more than these tax breaks help more than 230,000 Wisconsinites save an average of $500 a month every single month, not a year, a month on their premium.

And to quote Senator Baldwin, not extending these tax breaks and jacking up costs on the open market will crush families, but also small businesses who a last time I checked Kelvin.

Every politician says small businesses are the backbone of this country.

So if you're going to strip away tax credits that do not allow them to afford health care, this is going to hurt small businesses, families, individuals, and luckily Senator Baldwin, along with another senator whose name is, I apologize, escaping me at them.

Gene Shaheen from New Hampshire.

They're both introducing this legislation that makes the enhanced tax credits permanent in place of a lower tax credit that will resume when the enhanced tax credits expire.

So a lower tax credit will exist, but they want to make the current one permanent because that's what you do for working families, for individuals, for businesses when you believe that these, the middle class, the working class are the backbone, the heartbeat of this country.

We're going to talk more about this, especially the fact that they're

Republicans who love this, but they ain't talking about it.

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75 civic leave a comment on the live stream if you'd like we're on Facebook.

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We still call Twitter We're talking about the fact that health care costs will go up to doi.

We all know that it's always going up.

They're always going to go up But there is one group of individuals who will see their health care costs go up quite a bit And that is those who are participating in the affordable care act those who are on the marketplace

And not only were their costs go up between anywhere between 15 to 18%, they're going to possibly see their tax credits lowered or who knows, even gotten rid of eventually someday, but there, there's going to be a tax credit that's going to be lowered from where it is right now that saves at least Wisconsinites an average of $500 a month.

That's according to Tammy Baldwin, who along with Senator, Senator Jean Shaheen,

of New Hampshire have introduced legislation to make these enhanced tax credits permanent before they expire on December the 31st.

I figure if we get Calvin, I figure if we can give billionaires and multimillionaires these permanent tax credits, that will allow them become trillionaires.

I mean, we should be able to give folks a tax credit to afford healthcare, right?

I mean, that's a, I mean, we're America, right?

We're, that's, that's kind of what we do here.

We help people.

I thought, I thought I say with a question mark at the end there, dot, dot, that question mark.

You see, Greg, we would help them, but it's just waste, fraud and abuse.

Oh, you're right.

I'm sorry.

I messed up there.

I thought we were, I thought we were a country of kind people and helpful people and, and, and, and, and at the very least, I will say this to like, I don't mean to take the emotion out of it or not speak from a point of we need to help people.

We do.

We have, I think we have a, a, a real.

You know, it's an investment.

It's a promise.

You know, we pay our tax dollars.

Our government should take care of us to a certain extent.

But also, folks who are on healthcare, folks who have access to healthcare, folks who can stay healthy, produce, work, live, longer, folks who want to get rid of these tax credits, usually on one side of the aisle, ones who love the big bill for billionaires.

They want a country populated by people and folks who can't get healthcare,

have a very difficult time staying healthy then.

If they can't go to the doctor, things happen.

If they can't afford to go to the doctor, they're just going to exercise with their options and I don't know what they are.

I am fortunate personally, myself, if I've been without health insurance, it isn't because it was unaffordable.

It's just because I was younger and I was like, I'll live forever.

But I have health insurance and I'm lucky, very lucky.

To further the point Cassandra on the live stream says people that can't afford health insurance go without it They go to the ER for care and sometimes can pay the bill which will Which will rise with less insured people if they require extensive care due to illness or injury ICU extended hospitalization rehab etc And they can't pay the hospital will eventually eat the cost this affects wages health care costs you name it and that's the other thing too from a purely economical point

It makes sense for people to have affordable healthcare.

It makes sense to have healthcare that is not only affordable, but is widespread, that actually covers things.

Because it is an investment in the people to stay healthy so they can work and contribute to the economy.

And then that economy...

contribution and those positive workers come back to us in the form of various things like the ability to make money, the ability to buy things, all sorts of things.

This from a purely economical standpoint, it just makes sense to have better healthcare in a country, especially like, you know, America.

And I wanted to read for you really quick.

And by the way, we're going to bring Pat on in a little bit after the bottom of the hour news break, we're going to talk more about this, but we're also going to talk about another aspect of the big bill for billionaires.

And the fact that

They think 50 billion dollars is enough to save help rural folks and rural hospitals I'll give you a spoiler.

It's not but we'll talk more about that with Pat in a little bit This coming from the Georgetown coming from Georgetown poverty or they are an organization out of Washington DC.

This is a report entitled What's at stake if Congress lets the enhanced ACA premium tax credits expire and

It's not very long it will be in the show notes, but I want to focus on a graph States that will states by amount by percentages the number of people projected to lose health insurance if enhanced PC PTCs Premium tax credits expire.

They vary by state Calvin if you can take a guess The first top 15 Who do you think they voted for in the election?

Donald Trump.

Yeah.

In fact, it was 16, actually the top 16.

And the top percentage is Mississippi.

43% could lose health insurance.

43% of people in Mississippi who have the ACA could lose their health insurance because of these enhanced PTCs not being extended or not being made permanent.

The nationwide average about 16% Wisconsin's eight and of Wisconsin where one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine and 10 of the 10 states have yet to expand our Medicare coverage through the ACA.

We have been kicking and screaming that since it came down the pike because Robin Voss says, no, it's a handout.

Well, you're wrong.

And apparently you don't like people Robin.

I said it, but that is what we're looking at right here.

People in Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia, Louisiana, Arkansas, Ohio, Texas, Idaho, Kansas, Indiana, Florida, Kentucky, Iowa, Michigan.

All of them are the top ones who are going to lose anywhere between 18 to 43% health care coverage for those who are on the ACA.

Ted on the on the live stream says medical expenses are the most common cause of personal bankruptcy.

We live in America.

That's right, guys.

We live in America where you can go bankrupt trying to pay your hospital bill.

Luckily, Senator Baldwin's on the case.

We thank her.

And we're going to talk more with Pat Crichtlow after the after the news coming up.

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Thank you.

It's quite overcast here in the Chippewa Valley this morning, but yesterday was so glorious with the sunshine and

that

south wind that it has lingered into today like a weather hangover.

It's still a beautiful summer morning here in Wisconsin, even when it really

isn't.

I'm a time marches on.

We're good.

The days are getting shorter.

The air is getting cooler.

I

know, but Brittany promised, you know, back to the 80s for a couple of days here coming up and I got to live off of something and I live off of a lot of Brittany Merlot promises.

What is going to get better

than

that?

Stop whining old man.

Trust me.

Wow.

She's become more aggressive in recent days.

I might have put words in her mouth, but I'm sure she was thinking it.

Yeah.

So Pat, we were talking about this earlier.

Healthcare costs is going up.

It always goes up regardless of where you get your healthcare.

And luckily for me personally, I don't know about you, but my healthcare costs, my healthcare comes from my wife's plan from her job.

It will go up, but it will go up an amount we can afford.

It's gonna, you know, it's still gonna, it'll make a dent, but we can still afford it.

Those who are on the

Affordable Care Act will see their health care costs go up quite a bit in fact more than double than what we what we me and I my wife would see Senator Tammy Baldwin along with Senator Shaheen of North New Hampshire I can say North Hampshire New Hampshire have put together a bill that will Make permanent the premium tax credits that help folks on the ACA because they do just they're due to

do expire at the end of the year.

And I don't know if you would be surprised by this, but in the article that I was referencing in the Wisconsin Examiner, there are Republicans who are in favor of this, who like this, but I can't report upon this, quote, there are in the Senate Republicans who have quietly indicated they want to extend the tax breaks to make these tax credits permanent or more affordable.

I don't have a count to tell you we have enough, but I'm encouraged by the conversations I'm having.

That's great that the conversations are happening and there's encouragement, but the fact that Republicans are not standing up saying, no, we need to do this because X, Y, and Z, you know, just being a good country and helping people and businesses too.

There's a reason for this.

There's

a reason for the Republican support and we need to take people all the way back to when the earth cooled long before.

the Affordable Care Act was passed before it was nicknamed Obamacare with derision by some folks, admiration by other folks before it was ever even introduced.

What we now know is the Affordable Care Act was, I have a secret to tell people, it was a Republican idea.

It came from a conservative think tank.

I know I'm hearing people's minds right now going, is this breaking news?

No, it's not.

And I don't know why more Democrats don't make a bigger thing about this.

The alternative was, you know, single payer government run health care, Medicare for all, whatever you want to call it.

That was what people were starting to clamor for in the 1990s when health care costs were starting to explode.

But then some Democrats will call them moderate Democrats, looked at something that came out of a conservative think tank.

and said, okay, here's a different option.

Instead of single payer government run health insurance.

Why don't we maintain the private insurance market?

But why don't we as the government help people afford private coverage so that you still have the marketplace you still have private companies engaged in competition allegedly, and we just provide the premium supports to people so that they can get health insurance and when

Democrats in 2010 said, you know what, we got to do something.

Let's do that.

But because Barack Obama and Democrats liked it, it was suddenly Obamacare, this abomination, etc, etc.

But these Republicans you just alluded to, they know that this is still at its heart, a way that you maintain a private insurance system, but you just help

Americans afford their health insurance and they see nothing wrong with that because, again, it keeps the market and doesn't get us into single payer government run health insurance.

If more Republicans would simply think like the free market proponents they claim to be,

they would see that this is a good thing.

They don't because there are people like Ron Johnson and others that don't believe government should be doing anything to help anybody afford something.

And if you need to go to your, you know, your feudal lord or whatever to get special favors and and

count on the benevolence of billionaires.

Yeah, that's, that's fine by them.

That's the world they're looking for.

But that's, that's the reason why they're still Republicans who remember that at its heart, this is a conservative idea for healthcare reform.

And also, you know, from the implementation of the ACA, it was never easy for folks who were actually on it.

I remember working for a company at the time that got our got our health insurance through a group that helped small businesses get

group healthcare through the ACA and we changed healthcare three times in so many years because the there was no incentive for doctors to be a part of it either and they could just if if they weren't part of if they were a private practitioner and they were not located directly in a hospital that took it they could throw you they could be like I don't I don't want that anymore

And then you're out.

Then you've got to go find it again.

And it's not, it's not easy when you're an individual doing it.

It's certainly not easy when you were a business doing it as well.

And you would think Pat, as, as we've seen through the AC, we have not seen the healthcare system crumble.

We have not seen it fall to the, fall to the feet of socialist medicine.

It has kept going and it.

is not the best version because it's very hard for people.

It's very expensive.

It's going to become more expensive if this bill doesn't go through.

And, you know, I'm going to lead this up to you.

And I think it's either it can be the most long-winded answer because it'd be nuanced.

We could talk about it for hours or you worked in government.

You were an elected official.

And I'm going to ask this question from PJ in the live stream.

Why don't we have Medicare for all?

And

that's what so many other developed countries, every other developed nation has figured out some variation of public health care, whether it's a public option or just, you know, single payer government run coverage.

The doctors are maybe independent contractors or their government employees.

Again, depending on the model, we are the only country

that has said, you know, you know what we ought to do for health care?

Let's leave people at the tender mercies of profit motives of corporations, huh?

Isn't that a great idea?

And there are enough people that say, Oh, yeah, that's that's how it's supposed to work in capitalism.

And there are just some things that are not supposed to be left to the whims of the market.

For example, the things that would keep us alive, like health care.

which is why every other country has some version of this.

Now, they may go the other way.

They may start with a base of single payer health care, but then they provide opportunities for competition for private health care plans.

And we could have done the same, something similar with the Affordable Care Act.

We could have maintained the private companies that are out there with premium support.

And we could have included what was known as a public option where people could say, well, I've looked at all of these for profit corporations, what they want to charge me, but actually think the better thing for me would be to choose Medicare.

You know, I'm only in my 30s or whatever, but there's a public option to buy into Medicare and or Medicaid.

I'm going to do that.

And the only reason the only reason we do not have it isn't because of Republicans.

It's because of a Democrat, Joe Lieberman.

Senator from Connecticut, who on behalf of the insurance companies fought tooth and nail, Senate Democrats had no margins to work with, no wiggle room, and had to eventually drop the public option in order to get his vote for the Affordable Care Act.

So that's the long way of saying we should be at some kind of a Medicare for all, either for everybody or as a public option.

But politics is the reason we're not there yet.

If you're just joining us on mat and air on air, we're speaking to Pat Crichtlow, who's host of mornings with Pat Crichtlow, which is on Monday through Friday, 6am to 9am here on the civic media radio network.

We're talking about healthcare costs.

We're talking about healthcare coverage.

We're talking about options.

And something that Tony brought up on the live stream, he said, I wonder how those states will figure out how to blame Democrats for losing coverage.

And that is in reference to the study that I referenced from Georgetown poverty that said,

that showed a figure showing the percentage of people currently on the ACA who will lose health care coverage if these tax credits are not extended and they can't afford it.

And the top being Mississippi at 43%.

And the first 16 of those states are all states that voted for Trump.

And you're right, it will never be his fault.

It will never be the Republicans' fault.

At best, it will be their congressman's fault.

They'll boo them, but they won't boo Trump.

The way you describe it, Pat, the way you talk about that brief moment and that brief history lesson you gave us, and I thank you, what I hear is these politicians put the profits of private business and their own interests over the growth of the country.

And I'm even talking about people like, oh, I'll pay into Medicare.

I'll pay into directly to the government, not this middleman thing.

I'll pay for Medicare.

I'll do that.

That's easier.

And also, as we've seen in reports,

The quote bureaucracy of Medicare and Medicaid is a lot simpler than private insurance,

the

paperwork, the administrative costs and timelines.

So the fact that Joe Lieberman and others were able to say no to that was them saying, we're going to say no to a major investment from the people into the government because I really like my job.

Yeah, and the correct way to look at this and how they're going to turn around and blame Democrats, it's quite simple.

They continue to undermine it.

They, the Republicans continue to provide cuts in premium supports.

They continue to shrink the window to sign up in the Affordable Care Act marketplace.

And it's that way with everything.

It's with public transportation.

It's with public education, public health, basically anything with public in it is their view is starve it and then say, ah,

This isn't working and give them more reason to cut it further or to privatize it or to end it.

Wait, I thought we were talking about health care, not education.

Boom, roasted.

There it is.

We're going to keep the conversation on this going with Pat Critello, host of mornings with Pat Critello.

He will be here talking to you, talking to us, and we're going to keep it tied to how the big bill for billionaire, which is partly influencing this problem, is also going to make it that $50 billion isn't what it used to be anymore when we're talking about the rural areas.

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So don't go anywhere.

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And not to mention, my guest is Pat Critello this morning on a lovely, lovely Overcast Tuesday.

It's nice and cool and crisp.

It's

Still baseball weather, if you tell me that, Pat, I'm still believing that it's baseball, baseball weather.

Of course, because we got postseason hopes that are alive and well.

We could, Brewers could clinch a playoff spot yet today.

That magic number is down to two.

I haven't, I purposely not talked about that number because it makes me sick to my stomach.

October baseball is going to be a thing here.

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Pac right low, of course, is our guest for the rest of the hour here.

And we were talking about the cost of healthcare, the cost for regular, like not regular folks.

I'm sorry.

That's not for folks who get it or unleaded.

There you go.

No, I got leaded gas, baby.

No, folks who get it through the traditional way through the workplace or folks who get it through the ACA, the, the differentials in cost.

Senator Baldwin, along with new hamster, Senate Senator Shaheen, putting the other legislation to help those on the ACA still be able to afford this.

And the fact that Republicans while support it are not speaking up about it.

And this leads me when I heard this, it just leads me back to this thought of you voted the Republicans who voted for the, for the budget, the big bill for billionaires, however you want to call it.

That's FCC compliant here on the show.

They voted, they voted for it.

And then immediately had to go out into the community and talk about what they were going to do to combat it.

And the first thing I think about is the fact that Derek Van Orton, you know, that guy, Congressman of the, your biggest fan.

Woo.

You and Dan Schaefer.

As soon as he voted for the third time for the big bill for billionaires to finally make it go through and it's complete and done, it'll take, it's taken effect some now.

some at the beginning of 2027, immediately getting in touch with Tony Evers saying, you need to save our hospitals.

Well, sir, you didn't do your part.

And there is, to be fair, there is $50 billion set aside to fund rural hospitals over the next 10 years, I believe.

But

Almost everyone who any economists who are talking about are saying this is not enough because it's $150 billion over 10 years that's being taken away.

So they're giving them one third of that to say, yeah, you're fine.

Here, narrator, they will not be fine.

They will not be.

And this $50 billion rural health fund that was set up was cobbled together at the very last moment to try to make sure that a few rural Republicans signed on.

Do you know what policy looks like when it's cobbled together in the last minute to just twist the arms of a few elected officials?

Yeah, it's not real good.

No, it's it's it is it gives so much power to of all people.

Dr. Oz, head of the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services, and puts a lot of that funding at his discretion.

meaning it's also at Donald Trump's discretion, you know, the the king will decide whether your rural hospital will get this funding that you need to stay alive or not.

And he will make that announcement through his emissary, Dr. Oz.

Donald Trump will make this announcement through Dr. Oz.

Try to make that part of your policy debate.

back in 2010 when we were talking about health care reform.

If I had told you that's how the setup was going to be that rural health care lives or dies off of Donald Trump's feelings as communicated through a TV doctor.

Yeah, you just thought it was crazy.

Welcome to crazy boys and girls.

Well, and that's what I think too is like he's going to get a podium and say before I talk about this $50 billion investment or as they put on the website, the finance, the committee on finance from the Senate, the

The rural health transformation program through the one big beautiful bill makes the single largest investment in rural health care since Medicare modernization of 2023.

Before Dr. Oz says any of that, he's also going to say, do you suffer from weight gain, weight loss, saggy drawers, saggy top, take these vitamins.

Dr. Oz's, Oz's vitamins.

They're auspicious and tasty and they're good for you.

And we don't know if they do anything, but they're Oz fantastic.

And you can buy it with Trump currency available.

Yeah.

Trump bucks.

And looking through the internet for information, I came across a website called healthcaredive.com.

It says a $50 billion rural health care fund was negotiated with hospitals.

Experts are split on whether it will help them at all.

I mean, it will help for a moment and then the money will run out.

And then they have to go crawling back for more money.

And they'll say, well, just drive farther.

Right, because again, the one thing that works in conservatives favor is that we're a big country with a whole lot of people and as a consequence, everything has a big price tag attached to it.

So it sounds huge when you say something costs a billion dollars, you know, that that we're going to give them are 50 billion dollars.

But when you're covering that many people across an entire country, it's actually not that big.

But they just scare you with the number and go, see, we're going to cut, or we're going to add this much.

There's so much more detail to it, and we're missing that in the translation here.

Listening, Derek Van Ordenarium.

Cool.

Well, Pat Critello has been my guest this Tuesday this morning.

We're very happy to have you.

Listen to the mornings of Pat Critello.

on the Civic Media Radio Network, 6 a.m.

to 9 a.m.

every Monday through Friday.

Pat, thank you so much for being here.

We appreciate your time, friend.

Thank you.

See you later.

All right, when we come back, we're talking to Brian Wadsworth of Native Public Media about the effects of the closure for the Corporation of Public Broadcasting on tribal stations.

But go get a snack, come back after the news.

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Hi.

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I'm very, very excited to have our next guest on the show.

He is the chief operating officer of native public media.

His name is Brian Wadsworth.

Mr. Wadsworth, thank you so much for being here today and sharing your time with us.

No, thank you.

I appreciate the opportunity to be able to speak about Native public media and the work that we're doing for our tribal radio stations.

So let's start there.

Tell us about Native public media.

It's not just, you know, it's not one station.

It's a group.

What do you do and what do you do for stations across the country?

So Native Public Media, we are a Native-led nonprofit that works exclusively with tribally licensed radio and television stations throughout the country.

We have a network of about 58 tribally licensed radio stations as well as three tribally licensed radio or television stations throughout the country.

And so the work that we do at Native Public Media, we work with our stations to work with them on their

Various compliance with the the heavy regulations that they have being in broadcasting So we work with them on the regulations.

We also have we offer training for our stations We have an emergency management planning training as to get our stations prepared to stay on the air in the event of an emergency as well as

Underwriting how to generate funds from underwriting for our radio stations and then our station support program which was funded by the corporation for public broadcasting we

um worked hand in hand with the corporation for public broadcasting as well as with the 36 tribally licensed radio stations that received the community service grant so we um have the unique opportunity to be able to work with them one-on-one provide technical assistance with the um I worked on the financial compliance aspect of their CSG grant and then my counterpart Kyler at City our programs coordinator worked with them on the non-financial compliance so we got to um help them out with we tracked all their financial data

all of their financial information as well as our non-financial information and probably the best part was being able to get out there and go out there and visit the stations, visit them on their on their homelands and get to meet and get to know the station personnel and they really do, they really are our family so we were in a unique situation to be able to go out there and work with them, talk with our stations, see what's going on and being able to

serve as a liaison between the tribal stations as well as the corporation for public broadcasting and be able to like I said work hand-in-hand with them and you know really being able to be that liaison so if there are issues going on for the station we're able to actively communicate that with to the corporation for public broadcasting whether that's personnel changes or if the station's struggling to if they're having issues with their auditors or anything any issues this

we're having, we were able to communicate that to the corporation for public broadcast and really help them understand some of the struggles that are going on within Indian country.

For example, one of our Alaska stations, their internet was cut off and their nearest place they could get internet was about six hours away.

And so we had to...

Find some work around since everything is online these days and they didn't have access to reliable internet So we had to find workarounds and you know hard million letters using snail mail or even utilizing faxes to get information From the station to to the corporation for public broadcasting

now.

I mean that is an amazing rundown of what you do and I want I'm glad you made it that detailed because I want people to understand that it's not to

Shoe away any assumptions on what your group does or any other group when it comes to public broadcasting Because you mentioned several times in there the corporation for public broadcasting and because of the big bill for billionaires It has been zeroed out which means at the end of this month Most of the jobs are going to be vacated and it's going to be closed permanently the beginning of next year

We're losing the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, everyone.

You've said this many times on the show.

We spoke to Robert Pilot, who's the host of Native Radio about this, but I wanted to talk to you because you are a part of a group that deals with a lot of stations.

What does that closure mean for those stations?

And what does it mean for Native public media?

Well, for stations, if they were to go dark, I mean, those stations serve as a lifeline for

for our tribal communities.

It's not just about broadcasting music, but they also offer programming in their Indigenous languages.

So for a lot of our tribes, that's how our youth, that's how they're able to learn to learn their language.

It's about being able to share information within their community, keeping their community updated on

not only what's going on nationally, but also what's going on locally with their tribal governments and with their tribal councils and different events going on within the community, but also being able to share any sort of emergency information that happens within those communities, whether it's fire or flooding or tornadoes or active shooters.

There's so many different...

there's so I mean they are the lifelines for these communities especially a lot of our tribes are located in in rural areas and some of the stations that we go visit you know we we fly into a major airport and we're having to drive two to three hours to get to the station so a lot of these stations are located in remote rural areas and in some in some areas they don't have access to broadband internet I mean my tribe the Pyramid Lake Paiute tribe here in northern Nevada we just got

hooked up with broadband internet.

So we've had to utilize our cell phones as hot spots, which isn't the most reliable with cell phone service being out here in rural Nevada.

you know these these remote tribes they rely and radio is the most is reliable because you know if you have if you have a signal if you have your your vehicle or if you have a you know a portable radio you're able to to get that information so and in a lot of the training we do with our stations we train them on how to be prepared to stay on the air so they're able to you know make sure this this emergency information is being able to be disseminated to

to their communities.

So, you know, when internet goes out, the power goes out, you know, our radio stations, they're able to stay on the air and they're able to keep their communities informed.

And, you know, which, which is a lifeline for, for these communities.

If you're just joining us on Matt and Aaron air, we're speaking with Brian Wadsworth, who is the chief operating officer of native public media.

And Brian, first of all, again, thank you for being here.

We spoke to Kate Riley, who's the president and CEO of America's public television stations.

We spoke to Robert Pilot, who hosts native roots.

We have a friend of ours, Mark up in Hayward, Mark London, who works for Civic Media, who also did a lot of work with WOBJ, which is Wisconsin's only tribal station in Wisconsin.

And the things you are saying right now, if you took all the references to, uh, to native folks and tribal stations, it's public broadcasting.

And they are, if they are not associated with tribal stations, they are going to be suffering the same thing.

And the reason why I say this, I want people to understand that this connects us all.

These public stations are an important, as you said, lifeline to various information and to emergency information as well.

And now you, your station, other groups, whether they're whether they're

affiliated with PBS, MPR, whether they're independent, now they have to go find new funding.

Now they have to go out there and say, we're not trying to make, and I mean this with all due respect to everyone in this, the sexiest programming does not come out of public broadcasting.

You cannot talk about ratings.

We have this new reality show.

You are trying to do the work of the people and inform the people.

But now you have to go out and say, we need money because we need to provide this service.

especially as you just said to folks in rural areas, which was what we talk about all the time.

These decisions are being made at the top levels that are affecting folks out in two, three hours out of the cities who don't have broadband internet access, who don't have cable, who rely on what you do to find out what's going on.

And I guess, you know, before we get into the story that brought me to your attention with regard to Senator Rownes, what is the plan?

of native public media, the groups in general, to just get out there and find more funding.

Yeah, so the effects of defunding the corporation for public broadcasting, those effects, it's going to be a ripple effect.

It's not just, like you said, it's not just about NPR or PBS, which is unfortunately what Congress and the new administration focused on was NPR and PBS, but there is just so much more

that the corporation for public broadcasting funded not only you know over you know 1200 public public radio and television stations but they also provided funding through the next generation warning system grant which would prepare public public stations to be able to prepare for emergencies or upgrade upgrade their emergency equipment but also you have you know production production of content you know not only for

Native Native content, but also just content in general and then you know music licensing all of that you know Distribution so there is just so much more that the corporation for public broadcasting funded and also you know us at native public media You know the effects of defunding the corporation for public broadcasting will hit us as well like I mentioned earlier we

We worked with the 36 tribally licensed radio stations that received funding from the community service grant.

So our budget is going to take a 50% hit.

And so what we're doing, not only keeping tabs on what's going on with the senator rounds dealing with the Bureau of Indian Affairs and how that's going to play out.

We haven't heard any official statement or received any official

um, correspondence from Senator Brown's office or, or the BIA.

So, you know, we're in the same, we're in the dark, just like everyone else.

We're just waiting for, for more information to come out.

But what we did at Native Public Media, our, our goal, our primary focus, um, even though our budget's taken a 50% hit, you know, our, our focus is gonna, is making sure that our stations are able to, to stay on the air.

So we've, um, ramped up our fundraising efforts.

We created a tribal endowment fund where

that that fund will be used for the long-term, being able to provide long-term support for our stations.

And then we also have our Tribal Station Support Fund, which we're looking at, we're fundraising for to create that, you know, I guess triage you'd want to call it.

But, you know,

first response for stations.

So we're ramping up our fundraising efforts and we're working with our stations.

We've been preparing them since the new administration came in that, hey, this is something that could come down the pipeline.

So just preparing them mentally to...

be able to talk with their tribal governments, because we're not all casino tribes.

We all don't have influx of income.

So for a lot of our stations, it is a big ask to ask their tribal government, because just like with a lot of tribes, they're on very small budgets as well.

But we're going to keep the conversation going, and I want to discuss this.

We have Brian Wadsworth here.

He is the chief operating officer of native public media.

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before we went and got ourselves some water and a snack, we were talking to Brian about the closure of the corporation for public broadcasting, what it means for tribal stations around America and what his group, native public media does for those, for those group, for those stations around the country.

And something that you brought up that I thought was very important and needed reminding for me too was the fact that

When we think public broadcasting, we think PBS, we think NPR.

And while those are entities and they're national brands and I have to assume the defining of funds will be slightly easier for them, not it, not completely easy.

It's those unaffiliated stations, including tribal stations that will have to work harder because the Trump administration came in

along with the GOP vilifying and demonizing public radio as liberal woke choose your buzzword, but They've put the work upon you and as you made made mention your budget is slashed by 50% because of it, but you and and this is how I came to know your group and

reach out to you.

An article in the Wisconsin Examiner from the 27th of last month, Jennifer shut with the byline talking about a handshake deal with Congress and Mike rounds of South Dakota to find $9 million in funding.

Can you tell us more about that?

Yeah, so the work that we do it in public media, you know, we were watching the

the rescission package as it went through.

And in real time, we were at the National Congress of American Indians when the House first talked about the rescission package.

And in real time, we were trying to mobilize and we got a resolution passed by the National Congress of American Indians to urge Congress to not defund the corporation for public broadcasting on behalf of

not only the 36 tribally licensed radio stations that receive funding, but also, um, quantum broadcasting corporation that receives funding for their, for their production and content, as well as vision makers media, which provided grants to, um, for indigenous filmmakers to create documentaries.

So again, the rippling effects of defunding the corporation for public broadcasting doesn't just hit, you know, our, our radio and our public radio and television stations, but the rippling effects and the consequences will.

you know, will be, you know, probably felt for, felt for many years.

But though, both the work with the rounds deal, that kind of came up last minute, because, you know, that kind of came in at the end, you know, especially with the Senate voting.

And so that deal, we were shocked to hear, we were, you know, of course, happy to hear that there was consideration for, for funding for the,

public radio or public radio and tribal public radio and television stations, but there just weren't any details.

And so we had reached out to Senator Brown's office because then we had heard that, you know, it was going to come from energy from energy funding from the BIA.

Excuse me.

So we reached out to the BIA.

We haven't received any formal correspondence from the BIA, but now there's some news articles coming out that.

you know the BIA is committed to providing that 9.4 million dollars but what's left what's still unknown is when is that funding going to be available because a lot of our stations they're on different year ends so some of our stations they're already in FY26.

So is that funding?

When is that funding going to become available?

And how is that funding going to become available?

How do our stations have to apply?

Is it open for any tribally licensed radio or television station?

Or is it just going to be restricted to those stations that received funding from the corporation for public broadcasting?

So still a lot of unknowns out there with the Senator Brown's deal.

And that's one of the reasons why I wanted to talk to your group as well is because I want people to hear this and I want them to know that a senator has made a handshake commitment to doing this and to hold the feet to the fire to do this work to fund this because let's face it nine.

You said nine point four million dollars.

Yes.

Nine point nine point four million dollars as far as the federal budget goes is is paperclip money.

And there's, in my opinion, there's no reason why we can't just say yes to this and get it done.

So Brian, if people want to get involved, get to know more about what you do, donate to your group.

How do they do that?

How do they reach you?

So you can visit our website, www.nativepublicmedia.org.

And on there we have a donation page where people can make contributions online through Zephy or if they would like to mail a donation.

I mean, we received so much support.

It's really amazing.

Right after the Congress passed the rescission package, we received donations started coming in.

And so we're very, very grateful for the support.

We have a lot of people reaching out to us wanting to.

find out how they can support and so again our our main goal our primary goal at Native Public Media is to keep our stations on the air so you know we will we'll do whatever we can we are we are resilient as Indigenous people we are we are resilient we've gone through our people my people have struggled have gone through so much worse than than this which which is unfortunate but we are resilient people and you know I'm very confident that we will

Come out of this stronger and and more resilient and you know making making new connections making new allies that people with Organizations that we may not have even thought of so again if people would like to donate to our tribal endowment fund again for the longevity of Public media for our indigenous radio and television stations They can visit our our website or they can always reach out to us via our emails

wonderful

Brian Wadsworth is the Chief Operating Officer of Native Public Media, talking to us today about the importance of keeping tribal stations on the air.

Brian, thank you.

Thank you so much for your time today.

We appreciate it.

We're going to keep up with this story.

We'll be in touch.

You have a wonderful day.

Thank you again for being here, my friend.

Great.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

All right.

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Also, Calvin, I don't know if you know this.

I'm sure you know this.

You work here.

But after our show is done at 11 o'clock, the network just doesn't shut down.

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They're not like, all right, that was a good few hours.

Pat and Greg, great work.

Let's.

Let's take a long lunch.

No, they're still amazing programming after us as well.

So after we're done, we'll take a short news break.

When we come back, it's going to be the Tom Hartman show from 11 to two.

And then from two to four is Todd Alba.

He's going to be joined by Danielle Williams, who's the Department of Workforce Development's assistant administrator.

of the division of employment and training.

That's a long title.

They're going to be talking about September being workforce development month in the state and what departments are doing, what the department is doing to promote and foster the state's workforce.

And then he will have, uh, he will have Sean Hannish and Kelly call who are the, oh, they're producers of just to be outside the story of the 82 brewers.

They're going to be talking about the movie and it releasing across the state.

So that's going to be great.

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She'll be joined at four o'clock with Jim Santel.

I just love Jim.

You know me.

I love Jim.

He's great.

And they'll be discussing, uh, they'll be talking to Stacy Abrams to talk about the 10 steps of autocracy and authoritarian framework and talk about what she's done to defend DEI against ongoing attacks.

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It's that that absolutely simple so Calvin last month we had an addition of this shouldn't be a thing and If I'm not mistaken that one was called if let's see here.

What do we name this one glow-up addition?

It was the glow-up addition because we found out in a story that Walmart was recalling

great value shrimp after FDA warns of risk of radioactive contamination.

Remember that one, Cal?

I do.

And I will say that most of the time, I mean, we've been doing this shouldn't be a thing for a while.

And most of the time, I mean, the stories are always fun.

They're funny.

This one is serious, of course, but it's not like, you know, it's not a detrimental health hazard of

epic proportions.

It's not a pandemic of glowing shrimp throughout the Walmarts of our great nation.

So they usually just kind of go away.

People will mention them.

I'll see them on the news every once in a while.

I'll be like, we talked about it first.

But this one is part in the term, growing legs from the radioactivity.

Because not only have I seen it on other news outlets, Cal,

Senator John Kennedy, Senator John Kennedy, not John F. Kennedy, and no relation to RFK.

He is a Louisiana senator, stood next to, and I'm not making this up, because I saw the video, and I'm gonna put this in the show notes, there's video, and there is a pictorial element to it.

He stood next to a picture of a xenomorph.

And if you don't know what a xenomorph is, just type that into the internet and you'll know exactly what that is because it is one of the aliens from Alien.

Saying that, quote, this is what you could end up looking like if you eat some of the raw frozen shrimp being sent to the United States by other countries.

I want to reiterate that point.

This isn't the onion.

I didn't write this.

Calvin didn't write this.

This is for real.

This is a story from the Shreveport Times.

Presley Bo Tyler has the byline.

This came out three days ago.

Louisiana Senator, U.S.

Louisiana Senator John Kennedy stood next to an image of an alien and warned that eating radioactive shrimp could result in consumers looking like an alien.

Calvin.

I know he's not our state senator, but we also pay his salary, right?

Yeah, I would assume so.

I don't think the salary varies by state.

So yeah, I think it comes out of a general pool.

Yeah, we send all our money in via taxes and then they get the money and they get a paycheck.

They get great health, health care.

And the other thing too is, is I, this is not how I wanted one of our tizbeth to become famous because,

I had friends texting me the story saying, is this for real?

And I say, yeah, it's John Kennedy.

Of course it's real.

He says stuff like this.

He doesn't have anything else to do.

He can't, you know, he's too busy.

He's too busy taking away healthcare from people and voting for money for billionaires.

So of course he's going to stand next to a picture of a fictional alien.

They're all fictional.

Sorry to say that folks, but that's how I feel.

A fictional alien from a movie and say that if you consume

shrimp imported by other countries, which by the way has been recalled.

You may look like a xenomorph from the movie Alien.

Side note, the picture they made, you and I also paid for.

This is what's being taken up in Congress right now.

I kind of have no words.

I couldn't make it an audio survey.

I could even make it an audio gripe.

It's maybe it's an audio incredulous.

I'm apps.

I cannot believe I cannot believe that this man who is a, you know, he's a us senator.

That's not not for nothing here said.

Yes.

This is what I want to talk about right now.

Nothing else.

There's nothing in Louisiana that's pressing else.

There's nothing else, you know, the fallout of the big bill for billionaires.

This is this is top priority, Calvin.

I mean, like, I mean,

I watched the video and he has a straight face too.

Yeah, you know, Senator John Kennedy strikes me as someone who thinks all movies happened in real life.

He thinks Alien is an ongoing documentary.

Yeah, it's just up to, he thinks like Terminator happened and like Godzilla just wrecked Japan multiple times.

He thinks all that stuff happened for real.

He just missed the actual origin of the xenomorph and it thought he just mixed up He thought it came from radioactive shrimp instead of outer space, you

know He goes on to say this this is a quote folks.

I'm not making it up.

I didn't write this I guarantee you I'm not funny enough Quote if you if it doesn't turn you into an alien if you eat this stuff even if it doesn't turn you into an alien if you eat this stuff I guarantee you'll grow another ear

Well, I mean, that just sounds like good living.

I mean, it's like where you grow it.

That's where I would ask the question.

Do you grow it on the back of your head, this top of your head next to an existing ear?

Does it, is it a functioning ear?

Does it give you special telepathy powers?

Tell me more about this extra ear that you would grow if you ate shrimp from Walmart.

He apparently doesn't consume a lot of.

comic book media because he should know that you would become shrimp man

Shrimp man fights a lot now with if this and I'm assuming that because this is your idea This is gonna be a DC character so he can't he can't fight alongside Ant-Man that's that we cross I mean you could do that in a crossover comic book that would be shrimp man and Ant-Man that would be amazing

see he I don't know why but he even though I'm more of a DC fan

Shrimp man strikes me as a spider-man villain.

Hmm Shrimp man shrimp

guy.

I don't know.

Shrimp guy.

Nope.

Shrimp guy is what it is.

No, it's not.

He doesn't want to be shrimp man.

He's like, that sounds fancy.

I'm shrimp guy.

We got Jean from Eau Claire.

Jean, please tell me, please tell me that you haven't eaten this radioactive shrimp.

We don't want you growing another ear deer.

Oh, thank you.

Thank you for watching on my behalf.

I appreciate it.

You know, this is so great you're bringing this up because people won't believe it, but when you watch live, this is what you're seeing.

It's like I've watched for years live, the Senate and the House and what went on, I have never seen.

the people, these people shouldn't even be allowed to walk dogs down the street for a living because they are way out of it.

I've never

seen this before.

And, and you're giving a specific example.

You should see them on other things.

Oh

yeah.

If you don't believe us, watch them live.

You won't believe it.

Have a good day.

Thanks you guys.

Have a great day and good show.

Bye bye.

Thank you, Jane.

Thank you for calling.

We appreciate it.

And just to let, and let's give you context cause.

Just in case you're sitting there going, well, maybe John Kennedy has a point there.

No, he doesn't.

The FDA determined that products from, it says products from PT, I think it's the company that supplies them.

Oh, I see here.

Bahari, McMurray, Sajati, violate the Food and Drug Administration and Cosmetic Act by appearing to have been prepared, packed, or held under an

in sanitary conditions, wherein CS137 contamination may have occurred and may pose a safety concern.

Now, I know Calvin, you're thinking about it.

What happens if the next shrimp cocktail I eat is just loaded with radioactive activity and I become shrimp guy?

Yeah, unfortunately, let's not joke around too much here.

Radiation poisoning is bad and makes you sick and you can die from it.

But

You don't get superpowers or extra limbs or creatures from outer space growing out of you

Which is just sounds like a bummer to me because I could make a billion dollars on that movie deal But and it's not gonna happen to you via this either because the FDA did detect sews s 137 in a single single with a one That's one shipment of imported frozen ship that did not enter us commerce as well

the level of CS 137 detected in the detained shipment was below the FDA's derived intervention level for CS 137, which actually sounds like if it's below, it sounds like we can actually take in CS 137, but they're saying, Hey, just don't take too much.

PJ on the live stream says glowing in the dark would be cool.

It would be cool, but I don't want to get through radioactive shrimp.

I just wanted to bring this up because one, we discussed this on what is supposed to be a joke segment of the show.

And this

paid US Senator, got pictures, went on camera, and literally said some of the dumbest things that make you go, we need to put grandpa away.

He can't drive anymore, but that's a US Senator, John Candy, Louisiana.

Good job, buddy.

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Jane says at civic media dot us today's tiz back comes way of the CBC British Columbia.

Andrew Kershaka has got the byline.

The headline reads man arrested after driving child size pink Barbies Jeep through Prince George British Columbia.

This might be one of the greatest stories ever because it's got a wonderful, wonderful photo element to it.

But a Prince George man was pulled over by police after driving a child size pink toy Barbie Jeep

along one of the main roads in north central BC on September the 5th.

I guess in a day that involved a hit and run accident, a fire that destroyed a business, the photos and videos of this Barbie Jeep are quickly spreading online with a mixture of humor and disbelief.

If you go to the website civicmedia.us slash shows, you can find our show.

You can find this episode of TISBAT.

You can look at all the pictures.

The man's name is Lincoln Casper, and the picture of him you will see looks exactly like a guy in his dress, specifically of what would be a guy driving a toy pink Barbie truck down the road.