Do No Harm (Hour 2)

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Do No Harm (Hour 2)

Matenaer on Air · Wed Aug 20, 2025

Jane Matt Nair (host)

and welcome, welcome to Matt Nair on air.

Jane Matt Nair, Greg Bach, Dominic Lee, coming to you live from our respective studios here at Radio Park in Racine and Civic Media's World Headquarters in downtown Madison.

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We got lots of things coming up on the show today.

We're going to start in just a little bit to talk about mail and voting.

We covered some of this stuff very briefly yesterday with Todd Alba.

Yeah.

And I don't think some of it was getting quite the attention it should.

So we're going to kind of revisit a couple of things, including the

Wasaw Mayor, who if we all remember moved the ballot drop box in Wasaw because he didn't think it was secure.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Yeah.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Can't do that.

So yes, we're to talk about mail-in voting.

We're also going to talk about Gavin Newsom's trolling game is starting to annoy some people.

Greg Bach (co-host)

And he's getting advice from all sorts of individuals.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

It's so interesting to

Greg Bach (co-host)

do it and how to achieve it.

And I guess there's a special call out to his wife.

I guess.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Yes.

His wife needs to step in.

Yes.

He really

Greg Bach (co-host)

needs to do her job.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Yes.

Yes.

Control your man.

Right.

So we'll have a little update on Gavin Newsom's trolling game next half hour of the show.

Slavery was bad.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Wait a minute.

Hold

Jane Matt Nair (host)

on.

I know it's a really controversial thing to just come out and say but Yeah, I have that written down to sleep slavery was bad Yeah, this is because of something also that happened yesterday coming out of the Oval Office So we'll talk about that we also have a little yeah, he's still dead and he's still not going away Jeffrey Epstein update hour number two vaccines

This is just... It's a lot.

We're covering a lot of stuff today.

Last half hour of the show, we promise we will... How do we do that?

It's called Audio Sorbet.

That's why we take a little breath.

Thank you, Dom.

Get away from the news.

Talk about lighter, sillier topics so we can all just relax for a minute.

And today's Audio Sorbet is going to play right into that.

Yes.

What is your self-care?

Yes routine.

We want to know seriously.

Yes a lot of people are stressed out Mm-hmm a lot of people exhausted by trying to keep up with the news and everything that's happening Not just in our country, but around the world Mm-hmm.

How do what is your self-care routine?

What do you do when you need a break?

Yeah, that's gonna come up

in audio survey after the 1030 news and then we'll wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it's the glow up edition.

You're going to want to stick around for that.

Might not be exactly what you think.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Yeah, it's a weird

Jane Matt Nair (host)

one.

It's a weird one.

It's a weird one.

And two, if you ever have a thing you think should not be, you can send it into Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us j-a-n-e-s-a-y-s janesaysatcivicmedia.us Also, Brittany Merleau is going to stop by an hour number two around 10.20.

She's not going to be able to make it tomorrow, so she's going to join us today.

We're getting a break.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Yeah.

Finally, we're talking about fall.

And she said, we're going to look at what we're going to be seeing for the winter.

Like not yet.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

No, but even today, stepping outside, you can feel the dew points are starting to come down.

Yes.

So it's not quite so sticky.

So Brittany Merleau in hour number two, while we're talking about the weather, we do know that FEMA is expected to come to southeastern Wisconsin tomorrow.

Okay.

Right on top of things.

They will be here tomorrow to assess the damage after the flooding.

And a good reminder in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel today for people who did suffer damage.

And I'm sorry we have to do this, but officials warn people of repair scams.

Because this happens every time there's a disaster.

These subhuman scumbags try to take advantage of people who are in really serious situations.

Please just be careful.

Somebody knocks on your door and says, Hey, we're in the neighborhood.

Yes.

Pay us $5,000 and we'll be back tomorrow.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Yeah.

You can, you don't even need to talk to your insurer, your insurance or your whomever.

It's we'll take care of everything.

And yeah, we just, uh, do you make the checkout to cash?

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Yeah.

Please be careful.

Spread the word, especially among elderly folks.

who might not be so savvy, just to be on the lookout for people who might be trying to scam folks who are still dealing with this big mess from its two weekends ago now.

All right, we wanted to spend a little time talking about mail-in voting and drop boxes.

You mean that super safe thing we've been doing for decades, Jane?

For a really long time, there are states that have been... Isn't Oregon one of the states that has been using mail-in voting for like ever?

Greg Bach (co-host)

Uh, I believe so.

I believe all are gone.

Also has a thing where if you turn 18, you're automatically registered to vote.

That

Jane Matt Nair (host)

sounds like a good thing.

I'm going to look that

Greg Bach (co-host)

up right now.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Uh, but yes, uh, going back to what happened in Wausau, a special prosecutor who said drop boxes are illegal.

This from Anna Kleiber in the Milwaukee Journal sent.

Now has been appointed to the case where the Moss Wausau mayor took the ballot box and locked it away in his office.

Couldn't possibly be a contract conflict of interest there

Greg Bach (co-host)

that So we started to talk about this brief land Monday as well and as if you're if you're not aware Monday became a an experiment in chaos So we didn't really get into it because we were trying to do all these different things, but I mentioned this on the show on Monday when we were talking if there is If there is a question or a problem

with the safety of voting or the ensuring of a fair election, especially when it comes to the drop box.

There are processes that a person, a mayor probably would have to go through.

And I'm just using my own experience of working in city government.

If there's a real question you talk, the first thing you do is you talk to your city attorney and you talk to your city clerk.

City clerk is in charge of the voting process.

The city attorney is going to be able to answer probably any questions you have.

If, if that passes through, then the next question is, what do we do next?

You probably have to, uh, you probably have to consult with more attorneys because the moment you move that drop box, you are creating, especially he didn't move it inside.

He moved it into, as you said, his office and he

Jane Matt Nair (host)

locked

Greg Bach (co-host)

it, which means you are taking away the ability for people to vote, which creates disenfranchisement.

It creates intimidation.

So.

I am not a lawyer, but I worked with enough of them and I am lawyer adjacent that what he did just in the process alone Seems very at at at at best highly unethical.

Yes, but at worst possibly very illegal because as I mentioned as well on Monday If he was to do this you're then if he's just gonna do this the first thing you're gonna do is call your

your building department, your DPW, whoever's in charge of your building, and they're going to assign people then to get the Dropbox, put it on a dolly.

The mayor does not do

Jane Matt Nair (host)

this.

The mayor

Greg Bach (co-host)

doesn't put on a vest and gloves and a hard hat and smile for the pictures.

This was a stunt.

There was no doubt in the safety of the elections, because there's no doubt.

There's Dropbox voting, mail-in voting, absentee voting, however you want to do it.

is safe and it has been proven over and over again.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

What he

Greg Bach (co-host)

did was a pure and unadulterated stunt for the crowd because he was a new mayor and he wanted to score points with his supporters.

And that's what he did.

And this is where we're now at.

Yeah.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Now, uh, Bondalette County DA attorney Eric Tony will serve as the, the special prosecutor in this case.

And again, Tony has said in the past that, uh, yeah, drop boxes are illegal.

So I'm sure this is going to be handled completely fairly.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Yeah.

This doesn't feel like it's going to go right to the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Right.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

And this plays in with, of course, Donald Trump's meeting with Vladimir Putin on Friday.

Yeah.

And Vladimir Putin doesn't like mail-in voting, so we need to get rid of it.

It's really good, though, Jane, that

Greg Bach (co-host)

he hates mail-in voting so much that there's no mail-in voting in Russia whatsoever.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

But there is.

Wait, what?

There's mail-in voting in Russia.

Wait, what?

Yeah, I know.

That's called a fact.

Oh, man.

I hate that.

Can we do away with those?

On Monday, Trump announced on his social media website his intention to sign an executive order to lead a movement.

to get rid of mail-in ballots, very expensive, seriously controversial voting machines on the subject of voting machines.

Smartmatic just settled with Newsmax.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Oh, it wasn't Dominion?

Jane Matt Nair (host)

No, it was News.

It was Smartmatic, I believe.

Because there are two different makers of voting machines.

So they settled for $77 million.

Because Newsmax had again been accusing the makers of these voting machines that they were all corrupt.

No evidence for that.

One of those picky evidence things.

Greg Bach (co-host)

And between the two, I was going to say major media, but it's Newsmax, so adorable media centers, but between Newsmax and Fox now that's nearly $850 million paid out in settlements with a lion's share, of course, to Fox, but for accusing these companies of fraud.

And guess what?

You say things on air like this.

You are going to be held accountable and and yeah, I mean for Fox That's I mean in the news core news corp.

That's a blip.

It's a nothing to them right because they're still talking about it

Jane Matt Nair (host)

right so Yeah, although again if you go back to some depositions because Jean Pirro Who's on Fox on the five?

Mm-hmm?

she had to testify in this case and testified under oath

Joe Biden won the 2020 election.

Just saying.

Also, it's kind of interesting, the GOP spent millions of dollars in 2024 backing efforts for mail-in voting.

Yes, they completely changed course.

Completely.

Brian Schimming, who was head of the Wisconsin GOP, we got to change lanes, you guys.

We got to start embracing mail-in voting.

And again, I wonder...

whether they're looking down the road, there is the potential that you could be alienating your own voters.

By taking away mail-in voting.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Mail-in voting is just the beginning.

It's going to be cutting hours to early voting.

There's no more early registration.

You have to be registered.

You can register early, then there's a cutoff.

You can't register on the day of.

That's what I meant to say.

You can't register on the day of.

They want nothing more than in person, on the day,

paper ballots.

That's it.

If you are

Jane Matt Nair (host)

overseas too bad.

Yeah, Antonia in the live stream says mail in voting.

Isn't that the thing that helps our troops abroad steal elections?

Yeah, what's that going to mean for service members overseas?

If we get rid of mail in voting, they have to come back on the day.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Oh, no, that yeah, they won't be allowed to you can't you have to change all the you'd have to change all the procedures all the policies.

No, it would be

Maybe they would make a special dispensation for military people, but if you're a person if you are a citizen working overseas Well too bad.

You can't get here in time.

I guess you can't vote.

What a

Jane Matt Nair (host)

shame.

I know Maybe we'll give up for you and just to reiterate this one more time.

There has been no evidence zero evidence of any widespread voter fraud in this country in any of our elections None Zippo knowing it

in your gut, that's not proof.

Greg Bach (co-host)

The last mail fraud that I saw a story on happened last month and the person was a registered Republican who forged five ballots.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Stop saying those things.

That's not widespread.

You are listening to Matt Nair on air.

Gavin Newsom, up in that trolling game.

Stay close.

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Dominic Lee (Host)

morning and welcome.

Welcome to Matt Nair on air.

Dominic Lee in for Calvin coming to you from our respective studios at Radio Park in Racine and Civic Media's world headquarters in downtown Madison.

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That's fine.

We'll move on.

Yeah.

There's more baseball today.

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The Brewers at the Cubs.

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I wanted to spend just a little time talking about California governor Gavin Newsom.

Co-Host

The troll king.

Dominic Lee (Host)

He's ruffling some feathers.

This is from the independent Gavin Newsom expertly trolling Fox News stars by mimicking Trump online right down to the nicknames.

Gavin Newsom's pitch perfect parody has resulted in several Fox News hosts.

taking the bait and making the governor's point.

I believe we can start.

Dominic, we have a couple of clips that we wanted to play.

Yeah.

This is Dana Perino.

Co-Host

Oh, former press secretary for George W.

Dominic Lee (Host)

Bush.

Right.

Talking about Gavin Newsom's trolling game.

Let's play that clip, please.

Dana Perino (Fox News Clip)

For the last week, Gavin Newsom, and why am I giving him advice?

You have to stop it with the Twitter thing.

I don't know what his wife is.

If I don't know his wife, I would say, you are making a fool of yourself.

Stop it.

Do not let your staff tweet.

And if you're doing it yourself, put the phone away and start over.

And he's got a big job as governor of California, but if he wants an even bigger job, he has to be a little bit more serious.

The debate.

Dominic Lee (Host)

Yeah, there we go.

Yeah.

That is so funny.

Yeah.

That is just hilarious.

Stop it.

You're not being funny.

Co-Host

Where is your wife?

Dominic Lee (Host)

Where's your wife to step on you?

Come on.

Co-Host

I just

Dominic Lee (Host)

It's not totally not funny, Gavin.

Co-Host

You have a job to do and it's a big job being governor.

Do you hear yourself Dana Perino right now?

Have you ever looked at truth social ever in your

Dominic Lee (Host)

life?

Well, and here's what they're all upset about.

This is an example of one of Gavin Newsom's trolling tweets.

in response to that comment from Dana Perino.

Dana Ding Dong Perino, never heard of her until today, is melting down because of me, Gavin C. Newsom.

Fox hates that I'm America's most favorite governor, ratings king, saving America, while Trump can't even conquer the big stairs and quotation marks on Air Force one anymore.

Trump has lost his step.

This is all in caps, by the way.

And Fox is losing it because when I type America now wins, thank you for your attention to this matter.

That is California Governor Gavin Newsom tweeting in the style of Donald Trump.

Co-Host

Yeah.

I mean, really just someone say holding a mirror up to the problem

Dominic Lee (Host)

in general.

I couldn't say that.

Co-Host

I mean, they're all and they're all kind of, I mean, that's that.

goes back to the, you know, I made this point on Monday, but this is a group of individuals whose whole milieu when it comes to comedy and having fun and laughter is about punching down and making fun of people.

And the moment you call them on their shenanigans, they accuse you of being, you know, snowflakes and the woke liberal mob and all those things because they don't know how to make a joke without making fun of someone that is

Obviously, marginalized and struggling.

So when Gavin Newsom does it, it's just the worst thing in the world.

Absolutely.

Which just proves my point always that they don't understand irony, they don't understand comedy, they don't understand parody, they don't understand satire, and they fall for it hook, line, and sinker every single time.

Dominic Lee (Host)

But they're not getting it.

They're really not getting it.

We have another clip, Dominic, I believe from John Roberts, who is also on Fox.

Let's hear that, please.

John Roberts (Fox News Clip)

Gavin Newsom, meantime, posting this on X-Liz using all capitals, of course, trying to mock Trump, use Trump's style.

He's been doing this for a while now.

He says, quote, Trump just fled the podium with Putin.

No questions, nothing.

Total low energy.

The man looked like he'd just eaten three buckets of KFC with Vlad.

Admit it, Danny J. You're terrified because this was the worst week of your life because of me.

Gavin C. Newsom.

I think he's trying to be funny.

I don't know what he's trying to do, but it comes across as childish.

or you're the governor of the biggest state in the union, what are you doing?

Oh,

Dominic Lee (Host)

man.

You're right.

It's not funny, John.

It's totally

Co-Host

not.

If you just took all the words that are applicable to Gavin Newsom and put in Donald Trump, whether it's his name, his title, it's all still applicable, which is almost the definition of satire.

And it breaks my heart that these people

claim to be so intelligent and with it and whatever they are yet they cannot it's not even they can't take a joke they don't understand one and they don't then they and they can't possibly use these tweets for self-reflection because the moment they self-reflect they have to ask the the the enormous question is are we the baddies here are

Dominic Lee (Host)

we the

Co-Host

baddies

Dominic Lee (Host)

don't do that no no no no no no no we don't want to do that anyway Gavin Newsom's team

Keep up the good work.

Yeah, don't stop.

Please don't stop.

It's too amusing.

News is coming up next, and then when we return, yeah, slavery is bad.

The slavery was, yeah, it was always.

It's just in.

It was always bad.

That's new from Matt Nair on air.

Yeah.

Stay with us on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Introduction Narrator

Welcome,

Dominic Lee

welcome to Matt and Air on Air.

Jane Matt and Air, Greg Bach, Dominic Lee, in for Calvin, coming to you live from our respective studios at Radio Park in Racine and Civic Media's World Headquarters in downtown Madison.

You can always join us, call or text.

at 855-752-4842.

Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter.

Make sure you join Todd Alba today for the great Todd Alba show two to four.

He is broadcasting live today from Wisconsin Rapids.

Nice.

Where our sister's station is celebrating, I believe it's 85th.

Oh

Greg Bach

my

Dominic Lee

goodness.

On National Radio Day, today is National Radio Day.

Greg Bach

Jane, I want to wish you a happy National Radio Day because you are someone who is a vet, a pillar, a legend, someone who, when I am out and about with you or even in this building, people will say, I've been listening to you for a long time.

People have a relationship with you.

They love you, Jane.

Well, that's very kind of you.

And on this radio day, I say,

Happy.

I don't know.

I don't know where I was gonna land that plane.

I really just that one just I I felt all the feels but I really just couldn't make words happen.

Well, that was

Dominic Lee

lovely sentiments.

Greg Bach

Thank you very

Dominic Lee

much.

Again, I go back to I'm only a legend because I'm still alive.

So anyway, let's move on Watch her divert compliments like a pro.

I'm up Wisconsinite.

That's in our nature.

Yeah, let's slavery was bad boy.

There's a turn.

Yeah slavery

It was bad.

Greg Bach

I mean, just really

Dominic Lee

go out and limb with that.

And I embrace that statement.

Greg Bach

Jane, I have a question for you.

Now, I am someone who believes that the enslavement of people is wrong and has always been wrong.

But why are we talking about it now?

What brought this controversial discussion point to the forefront for you this morning?

Well, that

Dominic Lee

would be the president of the United States.

I've heard of him.

Donald Trump ranted on his social media platform earlier this week, quote, the museums throughout Washington, but all over the country are essentially the last remaining segment of woke.

The Smithsonian is out of control, where everything discussed is how horrible our country is.

how bad slavery was and how unaccomplished the downtrodden have been.

Nothing about success, nothing about brightness, nothing about the future."

Greg Bach

Last time I checked, and I am not a smart man, Jane, but museums don't really deal in the future.

Yeah, not so much.

Dominic Lee

They're more of a past-looking, backward-looking kind of institution.

Yeah, they're a whole

Greg Bach

stocking trade.

Of

Dominic Lee

course, only losers look back.

as we found out during the Texas floods.

Greg Bach

I think it's a, I'm going to make a major announcement today, Jane.

I'm announcing the opening of the Gregory S. Bach museum for the future.

It will be a room in my house.

Nice.

Where I will just sit there and people will say, so I'll be like, it's coming.

Doesn't look good.

It's coming.

It's coming.

I'm not sure.

Come back tomorrow.

I might have new results.

I love it.

I'm going to see if I can do the financing.

Maybe I become a Smithsonian, Smithsonian museum.

Like a satellite.

It won't be woke.

It'll be totally not woke, unwokified.

And we'll have a gift shop.

It'll just say, liberal tears power this museum.

There you go.

I've done something with my day.

Do

Dominic Lee

a proposal on

Greg Bach

that.

Send it to Stephen Miller.

I think he'd jump all over that.

I'm currently taking investments and investors.

You know reach out to Jane says stakeholders at

Dominic Lee

civicmedia.us Trump went on to promise quote We are not going to allow this to happen I have instructed my attorneys to go through the museums and start the exact same process done with colleges and universities Where tremendous progress has been made this country cannot be woke because woke is broke

We have the hottest country in the world.

Greg Bach

Oh my god

Dominic Lee

And we want people to talk about it including in our museums

Greg Bach

Do you remember in the last segment Jane when we were talking about the satirical tweets from Gavin Newsom?

Yeah, these are real from the president

Jane Matt and Air

United States.

This is real.

Greg Bach

Yeah, this is real.

These are real words coming out of his thumbs and I Sure

This is the hottest country on earth, Jane.

And we need our museums to show that.

Dominic Lee

Museums represent what happened in the past.

And I would think most responsible people include not so glowing things in that past, right?

We only learn from history if we acknowledge

Greg Bach

all of the history.

Yes, which anyone who knows anything about

Not just the history of America, but the presentation of the history of America is something that we have been struggling with since our inception.

We have a lot of problems that we've conveniently buried under the carpets.

And we were just getting to a point where that information was not only becoming readily available to find out, but more and more schools, more and more media outlets were starting to embrace these truths.

Because when we're you know, we're taught certain things in school and we don't think about them again and then you hear oh like I I had to hear from an HBO television show about the Tulsa massacre.

Thank you never in my life And that's like two years ago.

I had never heard of

Jane Matt and Air

it I never heard it

Greg Bach

shame on me and shame on this country for not teaching that We have a problem in this nation of not facing our own history and it is why we are constantly in

situations like this, where there is a man who's sitting in the Oval Office on his faux Twitter platform, telling us that we need to get it together people in our museums because it makes us look like a bunch of losers.

Stop talking

Dominic Lee

about the bad stuff we did.

Do you

Greg Bach

mind?

Yeah.

Do you mind?

We have guests coming over.

Dominic Lee

855-752-4842.

If you would like to join the conversation, we have a clip.

Have you heard of

PragerU.

Greg Bach

Oh, you mean the non-accredited, non-real college that's online, takes your money and gives you the information they want you to know?

And funded by Christian Nationalists, that would be

Dominic Lee

the group

Greg Bach

Prager University.

Dominic Lee

Yeah, Prager is being kicked around as they want Prager to handle the curriculum now of U.S.

students, because they're going to kill the Department of Education.

So they want to slide in PragerU and their version of history.

We have a clip.

from Prager University, from, uh, this is a little cartoon version of Christopher Columbus.

Let's play that clip from PragerU,

Jane Matt and Air

please dumb.

Greg Bach

Yes, slavery was bad.

So a couple of things I wanted to I wanted to make sure it is not being kicked around and it has actually been approved in the Florida Department of Education.

They've a Prager University Prager you kids as an educational resource because the Florida Department of Education review the content and determined that it quote aligned with the state's revised standards on quote grade.

Now that video is

Fascinating to watch because it is literally animation of a Christopher Columbus saying those things I am going to bet dollars to donuts that he never said the phrase no big deal

Dominic Lee

I have a feeling that you're right.

Greg Bach

I also don't think that he ever approached the topic of enslaved individuals with such a measured sense of message because he did not care about those people he

Boasted about the fact they needed to eliminate well in slave eliminate basically make them their servants he and While Prager you has a version of what they think he said I actually have real words of what he said I'm not gonna say all of them cuz not only do I I don't think I can say some of these things on here I don't want to say these words out loud cuz they're disgusting is that these are and they're directly from the diaries of

Christopher Columbus.

And I'm just going to read one really quick.

He said, as I arrived in the Indies, in the first island, which I found, I took some of the natives by force in order that they might learn and might give me information of whatever there is in these parts.

And so it was they soon understood us and we them either by speech or by signs, and they were very serviceable.

He goes on to say, we absolutely should, we should make these people our servants, because we be, we be, we be insane not to.

They are of sound mind and sound body.

We can use them.

With 50 men, we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.

That's another quote from him from his diaries.

So him being measured in his explanation on why we shouldn't be so not cool man about the topic of slavery.

No, he actually thought these people were nothing.

They were parasites to him.

They were there for his service and pleasure.

And I'm not gonna get to that point.

Dominic Lee

And I looked a little bit into the history of slavery, which, and yes, slavery was an existence for thousands and thousands and thousands of years.

But in at least one timeline that I found, there was a Japanese emperor or a Chinese emperor, BC, who tried to get rid of slavery.

And even in the 1400s, the Catholic Church said,

Slavery is fine, but not Catholics.

You can enslave everybody else.

But not them.

But not them.

They're good.

Greg Bach

They're

Dominic Lee

fine.

So, yeah, slavery's been around a long time.

It's

Greg Bach

always been bad.

It's always been bad.

And the thing too is this measure of, well, hey, Jane, Jane, Jane, before you get angry, before you start getting all upset about the past, you should let it go.

You have to understand what society was like I'm just gonna put it out here two points one.

I don't care It was wrong that it was wrong when we were doing it as a country It was wrong when it was when it was Jewish people in Egypt.

It was wrong Thousands of years before it was wrong whenever people did it was period wrong done and if you sit here and you took and you say hey Greg Take a moment.

You really get you're defending it

And you have no moral leg to stand on with me.

Period.

Should be

Dominic Lee

an easy agreement.

Greg Bach

It should be.

Dominic Lee

Slavery is bad.

Done.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Ollie from the North Woods has been waiting on the line.

Good morning, Ollie.

Thank you for your patience.

What did you want to say?

Ollie from the North Woods (caller)

You're right.

Slavery is bad.

But I have something that I would love to see.

It'll never happen, but it would be perfect.

when they are changing all the wording of the exhibit, they should put a sign up there that says Trump's grim fairy tales or

Greg Bach

Trump's fairy tales.

The impeachment.

The impeachment expressions were gone.

And now they're back.

And then on the national archives, I believe, sections of the Constitution having to do with the emoluments clause.

And due process.

Due process.

Just disappeared offline.

So he's already doing this.

He's trying in bits and pieces.

And now he's saying this on his social media platform so he can whip up and gin up support.

And people can say, yeah, this is, we should, our museum should show how much we rock.

No.

They should show the truth.

And our truth is murky.

And slavery is bad.

And yes, indeed.

And if you could take anything away from that, folks, today, that's the one thing.

Dominic Lee

It's bad.

Coming up, he's still dead, and he's still not going away.

A little upstate on the Epstein files.

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wanted to spend just a little time on this because he's still dead and he's still not going away as much as the Trump administration would like him to go away.

Yeah, Justice Department now says it will start giving Congress files from the Jeffrey Epstein investigation.

This is from the Associated Press.

A key house lawmaker said Monday, a move that appears to avert at least a potential separation of powers clash.

These Epstein records will be turned over starting Friday to the House Oversight Committee.

And we'll see what happens from there.

Greg Mock

Well, thank you Republicans for standing up and putting on your big boy shorts and saying it's time for justice to be served.

Jane Matt Nair

Well, yes and no.

Greg Mock

Are you

Jane Matt Nair

telling me, Jane, there's more to the story?

I believe there is more to the story.

We have a clip.

from Representative Robert Garcia.

I believe he's on CNN talking about who it might be worth worthwhile to subpoena.

When we're talking about the Epstein case, maybe some folks who had been close to it who might actually know information that would be valuable.

Dominic, let's play that clip from Representative Robert Garcia, please.

Dominic Lee

So Democrats already forced the vote.

Remember, none of these files would even be coming to the public or to the committee had Democrats actually not forced Republicans to release the files in a vote where we got bipartisan support.

So this is only happening because we forced it.

We are planning to do the same thing.

Republicans refuse to bring Alex Acosta in front of this committee that we're going to need to force that vote.

How is the one person that put together this

this deal for Jeffrey Epstein, that knows the case inside and backwards, that knows every single piece of those documents, that oversaw much of the case.

If not testifying in front of us, that to me is something that's very concerning, first of all, and should create for us all this concern across the country.

Jane Matt Nair

Thank you, Representative Garcia.

Dominic Lee

I

Jane Matt Nair

have been screeching about this for months.

Greg Mock

Yes, she

Jane Matt Nair

has.

Alex Acosta was working in Florida.

He is the one who set up that deal with Jeffrey Epstein knowing everything that they knew.

Yes.

He made it possible for Epstein to go out on work release.

He got to go back to his mansion and get more massages.

Alex Acosta is the one who worked out that sweetheart deal for Jeffrey Epstein.

And then Alex Acosta went on to get a job in the Trump administration.

He knows the details of what went down with this and no, nobody wants to talk to him under oath.

Greg Mock

I guess the question also I have is why are there no records?

Like there, there should be, there should be, I don't know if this is a word.

These are, there are records which should be able to be subpoenaed.

There it is.

Like the records on this deal, the records on the conversations he had, unless he didn't turn the tape recorder on and there was nobody in the room, but the two of them, this seems highly.

odd for what they struck back in the day for Mr. Epstein when he was alive.

And

Jane Matt Nair

if you go back and look at old tweets from our current president, from Don Trump Jr.

From 2023, you can find tweets from both of them.

Release all the Epstein files.

People have a right to know.

Release the files.

Release the files.

Yeah, that was the big mantra when they only thought that there might be Democrats on those lists.

Greg Mock

Which I never understood in the first place.

I know, right?

That's just as ridiculous to me that you would think that, you know, honestly, like...

As we mentioned with, um, the last topic with, with regard to enslaved individuals, it feels like when it comes to the trafficking of children, that's something that we can be like, Hey, it doesn't matter who you voted for, you're a criminal in scum.

If you are convicted of the crime, so therefore release the list and let the chips fall where they may.

And that went up to 2024 when you had people like Dan Bonjino and who is cash Patel.

Thank you very much.

They, they were also scripted.

They were.

they were talking about leaving their posts when they found out that this wasn't going to be released.

And just as a, you know, before we go to get ourselves hydrated up for the next hour, this is a reminder that Ghislaine Maxwell has been transferred to a low security club fed, a low security prison, minimum security prison where she could qualify for work release if she wanted to as well.

And they're having that conversation.

And this person was,

part and parcel to one of the greatest human trafficking crimes this country has seen in a long time.

And somehow we're being led to forget about it.

They would love

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people to forget

Greg Mock

about it.

They're focusing on other things, Jane, like all the crime in DC and the poison in his mail and voting.

And apparently how slavery had its upsides.

And our museums need to be hotter.

Yeah.

Hot Museums, people!

Jane Matt Nair

Get on board!

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Coming up this hour, Britneamer Lowe, civic media meteorologist.

Going to join us in about 15 minutes for a little weather and wine, as we call it.

Let us know what's coming up for the weather.

I think the rains have finally stopped.

Which is good People get a chance to clean up.

Yeah, and yeah, and some of the humidity I think is going to be lessening as well So Brittany will be here to let us know what's coming up as we head into the weekend the last half an hour of the show After the 1030 news we call it audio Sorbet where we take a breath get away from the news And we would this is a

Borderline, more serious audio

Greg Buck

sorbet?

I think it is an audio sorbet with an important question.

Jane Matt and Air

How do you self-care?

Yeah.

A lot of folks stressed out.

If you've been flooded, if you're still dealing with that, you're super stressed out.

A lot of folks are stressed out though with what's going on.

And we would really love to know what you do.

Where do you go to recharge?

Yeah.

And it doesn't have to be a big complicated thing.

It just can be, you know, sitting with a book for an hour.

Exactly.

If that's your thing.

Yes.

So how do you self care?

What is your self care routine?

That is our audio survey for today coming up after the 1030 news.

And as always, we will wrap up the show with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it's the glow up edition.

Greg Buck

It ain't what you think.

Jane Matt and Air

No, it's not.

Stay tuned for that reminder as well.

We do have baseball coming up later on today.

Our broadcast will start at 6 30.

Baseball yesterday never happened.

It was

Greg Buck

all practice rounds.

Jane Matt and Air

It was.

It was.

That's exactly what it was.

The brewers at the Cubs.

Later on today, our broadcast starts at 630.

Catch the game on WRCE and Richland Center, WISS in Oshkosh, here in Racine and Kenosha, WRJN.

If you're in Park Falls, catch it on WCQM and in Hayward on WBZH.

Crew at the Cubs, our broadcast starts today at 630.

Want to start off this hour talking a little bit about vaccines and vaccine hesitancy.

Now that Bob Kennedy Jr.

is in charge of the Department of Health and Human Services, which is issuing far different recommendations than actual doctors.

This is from The Washington Post.

RFK Jr.

Pediatrician Association clash over COVID shots for kids.

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommending all children ages six months to 23 months old, get a COVID vaccine as federal officials move to roll back.

Recommendations.

Greg Buck

Recommendations, by the way, not mandates.

Jane Matt and Air

Recommendations.

But if you are a parent, I would love to know.

What you're feeling about this yeah eight five five seven five two four eight four two I guess the question is who do you trust more the Americanist Academy of Pediatrics or Bob Kennedy Brainworm Jr Who's a lawyer he has no he has no medical experience none

Greg Buck

I'm struggling for words right now Jane because

I've fallen into some rabbit holes recently on social media, my fault.

And that's why it's really easy to get sucked in.

And that's why audio sorbet for me is going to be a good one because I also need to, I have, I'll be honest right now folks, not self caring very well lately.

So I'm going to use this as a way of getting some pointers.

All right.

But my point on this is seeing videos of individuals who are in the face of doctors.

to their faces, saying that they are wrong.

They aren't reading all the material.

They are misled, therefore misleading.

I truly don't know how we got here.

I don't understand this.

We're tough.

Again, we're talking about our kids and we're talking about mountains of evidence that

Jane Matt and Air

shows decades and decades and decades

Greg Buck

of evidence that shows that vaccinations, though does not prevent everything 100% is far better than not doing a vaccination.

And the maladies and the, I don't want to say side effects, they're not proven.

these vaccines do not cause autism.

Jane Matt and Air

As far as the vaccine injured, that was Ron Johnson's whole reason for writing for another term.

Yes,

Greg Buck

there are definitely cases.

There is an argument to be made that people will have adverse reactions of vaccinations.

It does happen.

But there is not enough evidence to show that the vaccines cause these reactions.

And these doctors who spend anywhere from, I don't know,

15 to 50 years of their career doing the research and doing the administration of these vaccinations who do the Recommendations and the advising being told by someone online.

Hey, I know something because I know a guy who knows someone you're wrong and the problem is is that that person who is being the who's being loud and obnoxious and

Jane Matt and Air

putting themselves out as the expert

Greg Buck

and frankly entertaining to view that

gets to another person who goes, you know, I got the flu vaccine once and I ended up getting sick, you know, and that breeds that kind of doubt.

And then one person turns into two and then three.

And then all of a sudden we're telling our kids, well, you shouldn't get vaccinated.

It's far better for you not to be herd immunity.

Jane Matt and Air

That

Greg Buck

is just the way to go,

Jane Matt and Air

brothers and sisters.

We're going to include in our show notes, by the way, after the show is done on our website at civicmedia.us.

Greg does a great job in our show notes, including links to articles that we talk about.

So if you would like to look into some of these things a little bit further, that's where you can do that.

There's a great article in PBS Wisconsin from August 18th, measles resurgence spurs memories of the diseases toll in Wisconsin.

before vaccines.

So they interviewed a whole bunch of people who are in like their early 70s, mid 70s and 80s before measles vaccine was widely available.

And their experiences with measles, it's not good.

No, no, it's not something we want to go through or have our children go through.

Greg Buck

Well, and frankly, I mean, I know a lot of the folks who directly

were affected by the first round of vaccinations, whether it's measles or polio, probably not with us right now.

They may be in there.

I just feel like it's such an insult to those individuals who stood in line and wanted to throw ticker tape parades for these medical experts who worked tirelessly to create a medicine which would eradicate a life-threatening disease worldwide.

We're sitting here going, well, you just didn't do your research, man.

Again, this is not about him.

I want to hear from someone who thinks this is a good idea.

Because I'm assuming that most of our listeners and people in the live stream are saying, to doi Jane and Greg, of course, vaccines are great.

And of course, this is the wrong way to go for the Department of Health and Human Services.

But I want to hear from the people who think this is a good idea.

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855-752-4842.

If you would like to join the conversation.

Numbers from the CDC.

of the approximate three to four million Americans who got measles every year before the infection, before the vaccination, three to four million people a year got measles.

About 48,000 of those ended up in the hospital, four to 500 died.

Measles can kill you.

We had a little girl in Texas who died last year from measles.

Greg Buck

Yeah, but if we've learned one thing, Jane, is that the death of...

the death of some do not, do not endorse the prevention for more or all.

I mean, we see that with our, we'd see that with our gun laws or lack thereof.

How many children have been killed in this country because of guns?

And then we're being told, well, gun laws are not going to solve anything.

Vaccine and Jane are not going to solve anything, Jane.

And we just, we poke and prod these kids, they're going to get, they're going to get measles of the autism and they're just going to be terribly, they're going to be up a crick.

Jane Matt and Air

We got a couple comments coming in on the live stream.

Adam in Oregon listening on WXCO is a parent of two young kids.

I'll take RFK Junior's own words and not listen to his medical advice.

I was like,

Greg Buck

where is this going?

Jane Matt and Air

And another listener on WAUK wants to stay anonymous, but as a nurse, I witnessed the suffering and death of way too many people from COVID.

This administration's actions are so incredibly wrong.

I can't imagine what our healthcare workers went through at the height of COVID when loved ones couldn't go see their loved ones as they were dying.

The number of hands,

Our doctors and nurses had to hold as people were expiring.

Greg Buck

I watched, I'm sorry.

I have a friend of mine who had to watch her mother pass away on an iPad.

How sad.

And Cassandra on the live stream says, we can all be traced back to Andrew Wakefield and Jenny McCarthy.

And I know that that's kind of like the, the go to the go to area and you're not wrong.

That was, I mean, it was absolutely, and she does, I don't, I don't know if she's still pushed at the narrative anymore.

I have no idea because.

hurt.

She's lost the credibility and the relevance.

But

Jane Matt and Air

I thought she never had any credibility, but that's just me.

Greg Buck

But that paper that she's the paper that Andrew Wakefield wrote that she was citing was dis was researched and discredited

Jane Matt and Air

and

Greg Buck

debunked debunked.

And he would had to disavow it.

And they're still talking about to this day.

and they still have credibility, well that's the thing is they still have credibility Jane because people use this singular report

Jane Matt and Air

as the basis of all of their doubt.

I really encourage you to read this article that we will put up in our show notes about folks in Wisconsin who lived before there were measles vaccinations.

One child was described as healthy

until they developed encephalitis, which is an inflammation of the brain at the age of two because of measles, it left her mentally impaired and deaf.

About 1,000 children every year before the measles vaccine suffered from encephalitis.

Greg Buck

Yeah.

Again, these are recommendations from experts.

These weren't, it wasn't anyone saying we need to mandate these if, you know,

If private companies want to mandate, if school districts want to mandate, that's for another conversation, that's for another discussion and the public process of debate and Robert's rules and all that stuff.

But what we're talking about here are the recommendations of experts who are- Who have spent years studying this.

Yeah, years.

And what I don't understand is why can they not accept just the recommendations?

Because at the end of the day,

The individual, the parents have the choice.

They can do it or not do it.

The consequences are theirs, but they have the choice.

So why get rid of the recommendations?

And then, if you have other recommendations, RFK Junior, and you're a fun group of people, let's see your evidence then.

That's too, like, if

Jane Matt and Air

they're

Greg Buck

recommendations.

Jane Matt and Air

They know when they're gut, Greg.

That's all

Greg Buck

they need.

If their recommendations are sound, then.

Give me the proof.

Give it to those experts.

Maybe they can incorporate into their recommendations.

But just to say, no, we're not, no, no, thank you.

That is, that is irresponsible on a level to me that I feel like is prosecutable.

Jane Matt and Air

You can find our show notes on the website, civicmedia.us, click on shows, go to Matt and air on air, and then scroll down.

for all previous episodes that there's about a hundred of them, so show notes will be in there.

Stay close, Brittany Merlot is next.

You are listening to Matt Naranier coming to you across the Civic Media Radio Network.

We'll be right back.

Matt Maier (host)

Good morning and welcome back to Matt Maier on air.

Jane Matt Maier, Greg Bach, Dominic Lee coming to you live from our respective homes at Radio Park in Racine and Civic Media's World Headquarters in downtown Madison.

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The number is the same at 855-752-4842.

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on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter before we get to our guest.

I wanted to share this text from David New Berlin.

He says, hey, it's the first time I'm seeing you guys on live stream this week.

Where the heck is Calvin?

Who authorized that?

I'm discombobulated.

Have Dan Schaefer call me.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Well, I've been I've been really like I've been looking deep into this Jane.

I've been diving about Calvin Calvin vacation.

Matt Maier (host)

I don't understand this and so

Greg Bach (co-host)

I've been told to what what what did they what did they say in their email?

I printed it out Mind

Matt Maier (host)

your business.

Okay.

So yeah, there you go.

He'll be

Greg Bach (co-host)

back on Friday.

Matt Maier (host)

Yes Calvin is taking some well-deserved time off and we're very very lucky to have Dominic

Handling things for us in Madison also very lucky to be welcoming our friend and colleague and civic media meteorologist Brittney Merleau is here for a little weather and wine So we're finally drying out

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Yay,

Matt Maier (host)

and now it's gonna cool off a little bit

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Yeah, so bust out the flannels get the hoodies ready.

Here we go fall weather.

Yeah, what?

Pumpkin spice,

Matt Maier (host)

everything nice, right?

Pumpkin spice is everywhere in the stores already.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

It

Matt Maier (host)

is.

I was in the grocery store yesterday.

It's everywhere.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Yes, it is.

It's too soon.

But ball weather, it's kind of perfect timing.

It's just a little dose of it.

It's not going to last.

Don't worry.

We still get a summer streak.

But it's kind of refreshing.

I'm excited.

I

Matt Maier (host)

am too.

I can actually feel it here in Racine that.

The dew points must be coming down

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

because

Matt Maier (host)

it's not quite so sticky.

So what do we got coming our way?

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Yeah.

So what we've got going on is a high pressure system settling in.

So nice sunshine, dry conditions as we go through the rest of this week.

But Friday night and into Saturday, it looks like a cold front moves through and that could spark some showers and storms.

That's the cold front that's going to bring in this autumn, nice weather.

So as we go into the weekend, beautiful, it is going to be sunny, dry conditions.

Breezy, too.

But we're looking at temperatures on Saturday in the low sixties far north as highs to low seventies far south.

And then on Sunday, we could potentially see temperatures highs in the upper fifties far north to sixties, low sixties far south.

And baby hangs on into early next week, too.

So a couple of days, maybe four or so, really feeling refreshed.

And then we start to bump it back up.

I mean, we've got Labor Day weekend.

We go in the water.

Matt Maier (host)

September and September can still be really beautiful and even until October we can get really beautiful weather so.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Oh yes we can still get those spikes and temperatures so it's not going away.

No complaining.

Oh, there'll be a

Greg Bach (co-host)

complaining, Brittany.

There'll be lots of complaining from the same people who like three weeks ago is like, it's so hot.

Matt Maier (host)

I'm that person.

Greg Bach (co-host)

I'm so cold.

Matt Maier (host)

And I'm always cold.

But I love the weather that's coming.

This makes me very happy.

I might be the only one, but we haven't opened our windows since May.

Me neither.

I mean, the air conditioner's been on.

So I'd love an opportunity to open up the house a little bit, get some air blowing through there.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Exactly.

I mean, every time that we maybe had a little refreshing weather, wildfire smoke was here.

So it's nice to finally have the relief.

Matt Maier (host)

Is it finally better up there, the wildfire smoke?

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Yeah, I've been looking at it all day and a couple of days ago.

Pretty by the way, it's in wasa, in case you

Matt Maier (host)

don't know.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Yeah, not up here.

It's not in Minnesota.

I'm not seeing it anywhere off to the West either, so we're good to go.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Okay.

Well, I mean, it's, it's the natural order of things.

I feel like we talk about this in, in, in pre-fall.

We're in pre-autom, I guess.

Pre-fall.

And then we talk about it, uh, pre-winter and all those things where we just seem to, and I include myself, by the way, just seem to forget the fact that this is Wisconsin.

It's subject to all four seasons.

You're, if you're watching, Brittany's like, yeah.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Cause you,

Greg Bach (co-host)

cause you are also a winter person, correct?

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Yes, I'm a snow queen.

I love it.

That's why I live here.

Obsessed with it, especially the lake effect snow.

Matt Maier (host)

Well, and I would think too, Brittany, for a meteorologist living somewhere like San Diego would

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

be

Matt Maier (host)

so boring.

Yep, snooze

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

fast.

Right?

Matt Maier (host)

And it's another beautiful day.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

It's 72 and sunny.

It wraps up my report.

I would run out of words to make it interesting.

Have people keep listening, you know.

Greg Bach (co-host)

The weather's going to be, you take a guess.

One of the things you did also mention really quick too about there was forecast on La Nina, La Nina.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Yes.

So we're looking ahead to fall and winter already.

The Climate Prediction Center came out with a La Nina watch.

So what that means is basically the ocean out in the area that we're really interested in is cooling down a little bit.

Not crazy, but a little bit.

So that tells us that, hey, we're going to go probably into a La Nina.

So fall and early winter, this could increase hurricane activity this fall.

This could also give us a colder and wetter winter.

And also more Alberta Clippers.

Hey, more snow.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Sounds like a basketball team.

I play for the Alberta Clippers.

And I know that we have a very limited time, but really quick, do they have any kind of forecast at least on snowfall coming up this year?

Because we know the Wisconsin has, the businesses up north have suffered the past couple of years.

Big time.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Yeah, no, no numbers on snowfall just yet, but just an increased amount because we're going to get more systems and more that jet stream here with the cold blast means more snow.

So good news, hopefully for us north.

Matt Maier (host)

Well, let's hope that a lot of these hurricanes don't develop because, again, we're still waiting.

I know Texas is still waiting.

Western North Carolina, they're still waiting for FEMA money.

I believe FEMA is going to be on the ground in southeastern Wisconsin tomorrow to take a look at the damage from the flooding two weekends ago.

But fingers crossed, things will be quiet.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

I know.

We've got Erin right now, flooding the outer banks of North Carolina.

Roads are going to be impassable.

High winds, flooding, it's on repeat.

Matt Maier (host)

Absolutely.

Brittany Merlo is Civic Media's meteorologist.

She joins us once a week for a little weather and wine.

Thank you so much, Brittany.

We'll see you next week.

News is coming up next when we return audio sorbet.

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network.

I can't remember the worst December Just watch those icicles fall What do

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I

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Jane Matt

Good morning and welcome back to Matt and Air on Air, Jane Matt and Air, Greg Bach.

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We do have some breaking news before we get to audio Sorbet.

Sarah Godlowski.

Not a big surprise.

Yeah, has announced her campaign for Wisconsin Lieutenant Governor.

She is currently Wisconsin Secretary of State, but Sarah Godluschi earlier about half an hour ago announced her candidacy during a press conference today in Madison.

Greg Bach

And then there's Sarah Rodriguez running for governor.

Yep.

We could we could have the Sarah's running.

Wisconsin.

Jane Matt

I don't hate this.

I do not hate that.

This is the portion of the program that we call Audio Sorbet, where we lighten things up, get away from the news, so we can all take a breath and recombobulate essentially.

Dang.

I know.

Recombobulation.

It's not just for the news.

There you go.

We want to talk about what do you do for self care?

A lot of folks super stressed out, exhausted, tired, anxious, angry, many things.

All the things that aren't

Greg Bach

good for

Jane Matt

you.

We're all feeling these things.

So what do you do when you need a break?

What is your go to?

Is it

I grab a book and I go sit in a corner for an hour.

Is it I go for a walk?

Is it I go hit something?

In a measured and healthy way exactly what is your way of doing yourself care these days 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 that's 8 5 5 7 5 civic You can also leave a comment if you're on the live stream We see the comments that come in on Facebook YouTube and what used to be Twitter.

Greg Bach

Yeah, I won't lie

I do not have a time-honored tradition of self-care.

Jane Matt

Or

Greg Bach

as far as all these things are going on, it's very, life is busy.

And when I get home, I generally just sit on the couch and watch television.

But it doesn't provide the release that I'm looking for and what a lot of people get out of their own versions of self-care.

So for me, as I said before, vested interest in listening to people and what they're doing because

Yeah, it's I suffer I suffer from a lot of stress and anxiety and a lot of it's put on by me I understand

Jane Matt

we all do that to ourselves though, but

Greg Bach

yeah, it's uh, it's I Don't know I would Reading doesn't do it for me because reading is just a frustrating activity.

Well, that's no fun Yeah, and and the television thing is fine, but it doesn't I'm not like I'm just gonna watch some crazy television.

It's just I'm kind of watching television to

get me through the day and be like, uh, take, allow the mind to stop talking

Jane Matt

to me.

Yeah.

So,

Greg Bach

so yeah, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm here for suggestions, everybody.

And Jane, what about you?

Jane Matt

For me, it is reading.

Okay, great.

That that's always been even.

from when I was very, very little.

Reading has always been a great escape for me.

I'm reading a biography of Julia Child right now.

I don't cook.

I don't like to cook.

This has nothing to do with cooking.

I just find she's an interesting person.

And for me, I can escape into that story.

Greg Bach

You

Jane Matt

know, when she, the time she spent in Paris and all that, it just is- She was a spy too, right?

She worked for the OSS.

She says she was a file clerk.

Sure.

Greg Bach

Of

Jane Matt

course

Greg Bach

she was.

Sure there,

Jane Matt

Jay

Greg Bach

Charles.

Dominic Lee

Sure, Julia.

We believe you.

Greg Bach

What

Dominic Lee

about you, Dom?

How about you?

How do you distress?

I was just going to say, yeah, I actually utilize self-care quite a lot.

And the main thing that I use is I play a lot of board games.

I'm a big board game guy, and I love playing risk.

Risk is something that I tend to play every week when I just want to...

Turn my stress down just get away.

Yeah

Jane Matt

So

Dominic Lee

now

Jane Matt

risk is about taking over the world isn't it

Dominic Lee

okay?

It is yes, it is okay, but it's it's something that sounds stress-free What are you gonna do to say

Greg Bach

destroy

Dominic Lee

my

Greg Bach

enemies?

Dominic Lee

And you know half the time I play online, too So it's not really a board game, but I it's still it still helps my stress levels go down You know and I enjoy it.

It's it's a stress-free game in my opinion.

I

I don't know about other people.

Hey, it works

Jane Matt

for

Greg Bach

you.

Dominic Lee

Yes, exactly.

That's great.

I just

Greg Bach

find that so fascinating because I've played risk and board.

So here, let's see.

This is where I malfunction.

This is my malfunction is that board games provide me a level of anxiety that make me just say, I don't want to play because I just worry about.

How many people are playing?

What are the rules?

How do we play this?

What are the rules?

I don't want to break the rules.

Can someone explain to me the rules?

I'm sorry, you have to talk about the rules so much I've never played this game before.

How about I just sit over here and watch television?

Jane Matt

We're not going to invite him to our game night, Dom.

I think we'll skip Greg's invitation.

Dominic Lee

Great idea, Jane.

Maybe we'll go something easy.

Don't invite me.

Yeah, we'll go like maybe we'll checkers first and we'll build up.

I'll play some UNO.

I'll play some

Jane Matt

UNO.

What about trouble which is

Dominic Lee

just play with the

Jane Matt

problematic that'll be fun.

It pops so much chain 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 How do you do your self care?

What do you do for self care 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 John from the nominee falls listening on WAUK My self care is yard work

Greg Bach

and then a beer on the deck and

That kind of that, uh, that is similar to, there we go.

Sorry about that.

I was looking at the live stream.

Uh, PJ on the live streams is I pull weeds in my garden if I need to step away from social media.

And that honestly right there is like one of the big things is

I guess you could count this as self care.

Something I've been trying to do is when I do watch television, I try to put my phone on the other side of the room.

So I'm not looking at a screen, then looking at a screen, then looking at a screen and looking at a screen.

Dominic Lee

So I

Greg Bach

try, if I'm going to watch television and watch a program, I'm going to put my phone down.

I'm going to put my glasses down and focus on the

Dominic Lee

thing right there and

Greg Bach

taking the information.

But yeah, that's very, very important to get away from that social media because.

It can be informative, but it can be so damaging to

Jane Matt

it's and it's exhausting It really is and I do this the same thing to PJ.

I'm on social media way too much because that's where news breaks Yeah, that's yeah, and but I will do the same thing out and I'm gonna do that today when I get home Boy, mine the weeds are doing really really well since we had all that rain.

They're like four and a half feet.

Oh, I know it's they look magnificent.

I can't I wish I could reclassify them

Greg Bach

Really quick side note here.

Remember a couple weeks ago.

We were talking about Amazon Prime buys and what like and Chris Alfheim talked about that she had got she had bought a flamethrower Yeah, I got a suggestion for a flamethrower recently on Amazon and I thought to myself it's a weed flamethrower It's designed for weeding.

I'm like don't tease this is either gonna go incredibly well or is going to be a disaster

There's no in between.

Jane Matt

Oh, that sounds bad.

That might be some self care right there.

That's burning down my house does not sound like a good idea for self care.

I think I'll stay away from the flame thrower for the week.

Cassandra on the live stream we're talking about how you self care.

Cassandra says about every eight weeks I go in for a facial, get a pedicure, just to get a break from the kids and the spouse.

Next week I'm going to a head spa.

I'd like to know what that

Greg Bach

is.

Jane Matt

Head spa is

Greg Bach

that is that code for therapy or is that like

They work on your your skull and like they do the massaging and they do you know treatments I've seen that online

Jane Matt

like a like a riku for your head.

Greg Bach

Yes, there you go I just want to say really quick shout out to Dom because Dom you're you're in your early 20s, correct?

Correct 22 and I feel like one I don't know what it's like to be a 22 year old in this society today There's a lot of things happening and you and and God willing you have a long way to go in life, but there's gonna be a lot of things

that are going to change for your generation.

Dominic Lee

Definitely.

Greg Bach

Your generation's embrace of self-care, normalizing it, encouraging it.

Talking about mental health.

Talking about mental health, encouraging for people younger and older and being there for people.

I just, seriously, when I hear young people talk about mental health and their ways of dealing with it, I just feel like it's like, oh, good.

At least one thing feels like it's being taken care of right now.

At least, you know, because even when I, I mean,

It's not eons ago, but it is decades ago, but when I was in my 20s Talk about that

Jane Matt

ever

Greg Bach

going to therapy my goodness

Jane Matt

Cassandra back on the live stream says it's uh, it's the latter special shampoos scalp massage Etc.

Etc.

We're taking your calls and your texts about how do you do yourself care?

We all need to break these days

Greg Bach

She also says I do therapy to both types of head spa double head spa.

Jane Matt

There you

Greg Bach

go.

There you go.

I like your inner

and outer.

I love

Jane Matt

it.

Teresa, I love this one.

I pound schnitzel.

Trust me, you don't need a therapist when you pound the heck out of it.

Recently, we have had extremely thin schnitzel in our house.

Greg Bach

I don't even know to do

Jane Matt

that.

I don't even eat schnitzel and I may just go get some so I can whack on it.

I

Greg Bach

would.

All right.

I just want to imagine Teresa at home just, you know, just

Bubbling and churning with stress and you know, whomever husband boyfriend whomever girlfriend wife I don't know Teresa, but just hands them the the the pulverizer

Jane Matt

the

Greg Bach

mallet the mallon says you know what to do right now Get it out.

Get it

Jane Matt

out.

It's right there.

It's waiting

Greg Bach

for you

Jane Matt

a Casper listening on WAUK pick up that guitar Greg That's what I do.

I know your abs.

I do not play it when you're stressed out.

Greg Bach

No because

Jane.

Okay.

I'm going to, okay.

The things that a lot of people do, do, do stress cause me so much

Dominic Lee

anxiety because I,

Greg Bach

when I think about playing guitar, I think about.

Am I playing well?

Am I playing right?

What am I playing?

Have I always?

It is such self-sabotage.

It is so unhealthy, Jane.

So that's why I'm taking your cues and a big fan of therapy as well.

But it's just, yeah.

Jane Matt

Open to suggestions.

Exactly.

Maybe I

Greg Bach

would love to actually get a head spa.

I think you

Jane Matt

should.

I think that's wonderful.

Terry on WAUK, I spend time with my dog.

And I play the New York Times puzzles.

There you go.

That's a good way.

John, from the falls, the weed flamethrower is incredibly satisfying.

Yes, I have one.

Oh, John, don't tempt me.

Yeah, weed

Greg Bach

flamethrower.

Ardith on the live stream says, I spent extra time with my giant schnauzer doggy.

She loves playing catch with me.

And I will say the morning.

And the evening, getting out of bed and going to bed is incredibly wonderful because it's just the three of us, me, Bridget and the dog, playing with, playing with Maybell.

She's all ready to get up on the day.

And it's just a nice way to leave the house.

Cause, and also she's always like looking at me like, where are you going?

I want to play.

Why are you not taking me with you?

Why

Jane Matt

don't you love me?

Dan from Wausau texting in, I go to my fully forested 40 acres in marathon County where I walk the woods and trails in peace.

This is great.

Japanese have termed it tree bathing.

Look that up.

That's a thing.

Tree bathing, which sounds strange at first, but it makes sense.

The energy the trees give off when you're hiking, you're just sitting on a stump and soaking up nature.

Greg Bach

I go to my fully forested 40 acres.

I mean,

Can you, Matt?

I mean, Dan can.

He does it all

Jane Matt

the time.

Well, Dan, we'll be there

Greg Bach

in about three hours.

Just looking at the expanse of your land and all solid tree.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

Okay.

There's another great idea.

Going for a good walk, an arboretum, or in the forest, going for a hike.

There you are.

Dominic Lee

Go outside.

Jane Matt

Go outside.

Touch grass.

Dominic Lee

You guys got to switch up tree bathing.

It looks so soothing.

It's cool.

Yeah.

I've never heard of it, but now I want to do it.

Jane Matt

All right.

Dominic Lee

Tree

Jane Matt

bathing.

But there's another road trip.

Wow.

A tree bathing road trip.

Dan, we're coming your way.

It's called Shinrin Yoku.

Of course it is.

My God.

When we return, we're going to wrap up the show as we always do with this.

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If you were with us right before we went to the break, we were, that was audio surveying.

We were talking about different ways that we, people are doing self-care these days.

Folks are exhausted.

And I wanted to just share, John, for a phenomena false.

Flamethrowers, tree bathing and schnitzel pounding.

Three things I thought I wasn't going to hear on the radio today.

If that's not a reason to listen to our show, Greg Bach,

I don't know what it is.

You listen in WBA?

We got variety.

It's the spice of life.

Just saying.

You know, you may want to consider

Greg Bach (host)

us.

Yeah, there you go.

Jane Matt (host)

OK.

Coming up tomorrow.

Oh, pack show.

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Yeah, it really is.

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Host of Amicus, a law review Saturdays from 9 to 11.

All things illegal.

Pretzel bite enthusiast.

Pretzel bite newly confirmed.

Yes, new pets.

Pretzel bite fan.

And, uh, Kate Riley is the president and CEO of America's public television stations.

We're going to talk to her about the recent cuts to the corporation for public broadcasting and what that means.

And, uh, all things sports with JR Radcliffe from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel in hour number two.

Hopefully some good news about today's game.

Otherwise we'll just pretend it never happened.

Greg Bach (host)

We're still in first place

Jane Matt (host)

and

Greg Bach (host)

we're still in first place with a great record and.

That's what I'm saying.

Jane Matt (host)

We'll take

Greg Bach (host)

it.

Jane Matt (host)

We will take it.

All right, Dominic, it is just about 1055 getting late.

That means it is time for.

Greg Bach (host)

This shouldn't be a thing.

Jane Matt (host)

If you find a thing you think should not be, send it into Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us, J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S, janesaysatcivicmedia.us.

This is from CVS News, Amy Pitchie with the byline.

The headline reads, Walmart recalls great value shrimp after FDA warns of risk of radioactive contamination.

Hmm the

Greg Bach (host)

frozen shrimp

Jane Matt (host)

but it's but it kind of the frozen shrimp were imported from Indonesia and Sold at Walmart stores as great value brand frozen shrimp according to the FDA They noted it has recommended Walmart recall these products

A spokesperson says, from Walmart, the health and safety of our customers a top priority.

We are working with a supplier to investigate.

Walmart also says consumers who bought the shrimp shouldn't eat it.

Good advice there.

Thanks Walmart.

And should throw it out.

You can also contact the store where you bought it for a full refund.

The shrimp could be contaminated with a radioactive isotope.

called Salisium 137.

I'd like 135 but that's although the FDA said so far no products as yet have tested positive for Salisium 137.

The agency issued the warning about the great value shrimp after it found some of this in a single shipment of frozen shrimp from this Indonesian company.

Customers who bought the shrimp if it's glowing

I would throw it away.

Actually, they tell you to throw it away.

Greg Bach (host)

Yeah.

Also, I just think it's funny, like, the recommendation.

How about the mandatory, like, removal?

Just

Jane Matt (host)

get rid of the shrimp.

Don't throw the shrimp away.

Greg Bach (host)

Yeah, just...

Jane Matt (host)

Just... Should be an easy...

Easy or fix.

Solicium 137 detected in the imported shrimp was below the level of concern for imported foods.

FDA says at this level, the product would not pose an acute hazard to customers.

I don't know if that makes me feel better.

No, it doesn't, not at all.

But it does carry an elevated risk of cancer, resulting from damage to DNA.

So avoiding products like the shipments is a good idea.

You want to reduce your exposure to low level radiation.

I think I'm gonna put that on a shirt.

Greg Bach (host)

That's on my that's on my things to do list It's always

Jane Matt (host)

reduce your the reduce your exposure to low level radiation

Greg Bach (host)

get water go for a walk take a breath.

Yeah, take a breath and Reduce my wrist a low level radiation.

It's a good mantra for life Thank you very much.

I worked really hard

Jane Matt (host)

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