Stay Informed, Be Prepared (Hour 2)

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You guys handled business.

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That's called tap dancing.

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And then in hour number two should be a very interesting discussion with Dr. Ben Weston, who

is the Chief Health Policy Advisor for Milwaukee County, and also Jim Case, who's the Fire Chief for Wauwatosa, and they're gonna talk about flood cleanup.

Yes, yes, we're gonna get, and please send your questions.

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We talked about this with Brittany last week.

This is something, especially southeastern Wisconsin, because we have not seen this hardly ever with regard to flooding.

We need to get used to this.

Therefore, it's best to have plans in place, whether you do want to invest in flood insurance, whether you want to look at, you know, maybe reinforcing your basement or just, just having the basic necessities around squeegee mop, what'd you call it?

A squeegee

mop, you know, batteries, bleach, bleach, can, like, and it sounds very whatever, but

Really, you don't think about it.

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because you can't see

anything.

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These are public officials.

These are not politicians.

Right.

We're not talking about the politics of it.

We're talking about on the ground.

Exactly.

Exactly.

So, yes, at

10

o'clock, we're very, very excited to have them on the show.

Also, then we never got to this yesterday because we ended up playing a rerun at 1035 for Audio Sorbet, our friend and colleague and host of Amicus the Law Review.

Thank you, Dom.

Jim Santel is going to join us.

about food discoveries late in life.

And there is a wonderful, wonderful story that goes with this audio sorbet.

And it's very unusual for Mr. Santel to join us for a non-law related segment.

So this is gonna be very fun.

1035 Audio Sorbet.

What's a food that you discovered late in life or a food you thought you didn't like and it just...

It grew

on you.

It grew on you all of a sudden.

It's like, oh, I love blank.

Exactly.

Yeah.

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Yes.

So if you can, please stay tuned for that.

Talk about the weather.

And again, in hour number two, we'll talk about this more extensively.

But Milwaukee County spokesperson, excuse me, says officials have heard unconfirmed reports.

Unconfirmed reports that FEMA is expected to arrive in southeastern Wisconsin later this week Mm-hmm We'll see I

you know for the for the sake of the municipalities and the people I hope something

I hope so too

my Concern is what we've seen coming out of Texas, Arkansas, North Carolina.

I mean

I don't believe any FEMA money went to California for the wildfires and

isn't Western North Carolina still waiting?

Yeah, I mean, it's there's a lot of there, you know, there, let's put it this way.

There are people in line ahead of us now who are waiting for some sort of funding to come through.

And while I'm happy to see that FEMA will be on the ground and I really hope that the people who are here from that organization are the ones with the true message and mission at heart.

It seems like a lot of these organizations, these, I should say departments in the government now are being populated by individuals who share the president's vision of austerity.

Well, that's why they're there.

You're

on your ownitude.

Yes.

And whatnot.

But I just really, really, really hope that the people can get some relief from them.

Governor Evers announced last week he is requesting a joint preliminary damage assessment from FEMA, which then determines if Wisconsin will meet the threshold.

which is necessary for a presidential disaster declaration.

That plays into two about reporting damage.

We

go back to that 2-1-1 phone number that they asked you to call, but at least last week there was such a volume of calls and a lot of calls went unanswered.

You can also do it online, which is what I ended up doing.

It's super easy.

Yeah, it's probably going to be your easiest way.

You're going to have to sit on the phone.

Just do it online and that way then also

There is an electronic version of it then.

I don't know if when you did it, do they send you a copy of your report to you so you have it as far as your records?

I mean, that would be something to be interesting to know.

But I just think doing it online allows them to compile easier as well.

And it saves you money.

It saves you time.

And again, this whole is about.

showing the federal government that there was enough damage just if I getting help from FEMA, which is why they're asking all of us who were affected by this to report the damage.

So far, people have filed more than 17,000 damage reports with early damages in Milwaukee County alone, estimated at over $23 million.

I saw the $30 million price tag yesterday, still a lot of money.

This is from WPR.

And I want to just give them credit for this.

And we've talked, again, as more stories come out about this and the damages that people have suffered.

Eric Truss lives next to the Monomony River in Wauwatosa.

He woke up the morning of August 10th to seven feet of water in his basement.

Seven feet.

I don't even,

yeah.

It's really hard to even wrap your head around that.

And I've seen other stories that said, not only did we have some areas, and I believe this was a particular to West Atlas, perhaps, floors of water up to the joists in the basement, and then another foot of water on the first floor.

I mean, that right there is 10.

10, 12

feet of water.

Yeah, it's just

that's a deep end of a pool.

That's just

crazy.

Yeah.

This I find

Very interesting.

We do have a letter from Gwen Moore, who's a Democrat, and Brian Stile, who is a Republican.

Also US Senator Tammy Baldwin calling on FEMA to act without delay.

They sent this letter, all three of them, Gwen Moore, Brian Stile, and Tammy Baldwin sent it to Kristi Noem, who is the head of the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees FEMA.

Ron Johnson did not sign that letter.

Well, because climate change isn't real, I guess.

A spokesperson for Johnson did not respond to a request for a comment before deadline.

In a post on August 11th on Twitter, Johnson addressed the storm and wrote that everyone in Wisconsin needs to monitor flood warnings to protect themselves and their families.

Thank you to the first responders working to keep Wisconsinites safe.

Okay.

So this is an interesting juxtaposition of

Responsibilities versus opinions and personal values because Ron Johnson, I believe is a very You got to do down your own type person bootstraps type person

fix it yourself What do you want handouts?

But as a congressman as a senator It is your responsibility to lobby you're I mean one of your jobs as elected official is a lobbyist you lobby on behalf of your state your district to get what you need whether it's money project those kinds of things and

I don't I would like for someone out there in the world to explain to me The political ramifications for him adding his name to this Because it just seems like a no-brainer.

I mean whether we get the money or not is a different conversation But Ron Johnson putting his name on the letter along with Brian style.

Thank you congressman style.

We'll get to him in a minute, but

putting his name on there.

Does I don't believe causes him political capital?

I don't think is going to be punishable by the GOP.

So his inability or his refusal, resistance from adding his name to this simple letter saying, can you please help us the government with the tax dollars that we pay into?

It's, it's, it's baffling to me.

It's not surprising.

It's not surprising because he, he

consistently does things where you say this is common sense and a no brainer.

And

why wouldn't you do this

on behalf of your constituents?

Yeah, I would honestly, I would love to ask Tammy Baldwin, have you gotten a call?

Have you made a call to Senator Johnson?

Have you had this conversation regarding FEMA money?

And does she have a, does she have any sort of information to share with us?

Because to me, when a state is this affected,

Of course the senators are going to talk to each other.

They're going to talk to the governor.

You're going to talk to the congressman.

There would be conversations going on because again, no matter what R or D behind your name, you are supposed to serve all of your constituents.

Yes.

Yes.

All of us.

It just seems like a no-brainer.

And maybe I'm a no-brainer.

Maybe I don't know what's going on.

But it just, for me, personally, feels very much like this is a simple thing to say, to put your name on, and a simple ask.

a standard operating procedure.

Ask if you ask me.

Absolutely.

And then you go on and you do your day and you talk about, you know, 9 11 and the vaccine injured.

You can go back to what you're doing and which is Fox news, news nation, all those things.

And I just simply sign your name, do what else you need to do.

Well, he must have thought that this would come back and bite him somehow, right?

because, again, looking for a reason why he would not sign onto this, he must assume that someone would be able to use it as a reason to attack him.

And that goes back to a simple thing we've seen in the past few months of asking a simple question and can't get a yes or no answer.

It's like, this is easy.

Why can't you just say yes?

Shouldn't be hard.

Agreed.

Derek Van Orden is back.

Town

Hall?

He was actually seen in person, not by constituents.

We'll talk about that on the other side.

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morning and welcome welcome to Matt Nair on air Jane Matt Nair Greg Bach Dominic Lee coming to you respectively from our home at Radio Park in Racine Also Dominic holding things down in Fort Calvin who's still on vacation He's back later this week.

Where'd you say he was on?

Calvin's on vacation.

He's on a vacation.

We don't know where he's at.

He wouldn't tell us.

We're like, where are you going?

He just kind of looked at me, stared me deep.

Deep into my soul, actually, was very odd.

I wouldn't tell you.

And then the next thing I know, he was gone.

Calvin will be back later this week.

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Just a reminder too, we do have some baseball.

There was a win yesterday.

Jane

Jane, I know that I know baseball isn't what you you're you're go to But in in in baseball parlances what yesterday was was a shellacking.

Oh shellacking

the official term seven zero nice our Number one first place brewers number nine headed by nine seventy nine victories I believe we are at right now beat the second place Cubs

was supposed to be a double header, but because of the rain and the lack of roofing and

today it's going to be a double header.

Yeah.

And so, so yeah, today at 120, there'll be a game and then 705 as well.

And Jane, we got details on that as far as we

do our broadcast again for this afternoon's game, the brewers at the cubbies.

Our broadcast will start at 1245.

And then that second game brewers at the cubbies later on our broadcast starts at six.

30.

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So again, we got the Brewers at the Cubs.

Our broadcast, first broadcast starts at 1245.

Second broadcast coming up at six 30.

We do have news on the way in just a little bit.

Then Todd Abba will be here to kick around.

Ellen voting.

You know, that's gonna be killed.

You know, that super safe thing that we've been doing for a very long time.

Republicans were

really excited about it last year.

They really, really liked it.

They really did.

Not anymore.

And then they had a conversation in Alaska about something fish.

I don't know with some guy.

I can see his house

from

there.

Yeah, that's right.

Well, we'll talk about that with Todd after 9 30, but wanted to get a mention in this.

Pat Crichtlow mentioned it this morning on his show.

Mornings with Pat Crichtlow.

This is from WEAU in Eau Claire, Derek Van Orden held roundtable discussion in Eau Claire.

Now that headline might lead you to believe that this was open to the public.

No, that wasn't.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

It was a business round table in Eau Claire, where business owners were invited.

You don't want just these willy nilly business owners showing up.

Sorry.

I pulled up in the head ahead of time, the press release from the U S chamber of commerce.

And they refer to it as a round table discussion in Eau Claire, Wisconsin with local business leaders on the

pro-growth business tax provisions in President Trump's one.

I really want Echo when we do that.

That'd be nice.

One big beautiful bill act.

Yeah, it was a private event where not a single constituent could go unless you were on that list invited and I believe a paying dues member.

There were there were caveats.

This was not a man of the people speaking to his constituents.

This was him telling a bunch of their voter people who voted for them.

Hey, we're doing a good job.

They're like, yeah.

Well, and

as Pat pointed out,

on his show this morning.

So Derek Van Orden was reportedly touting these tax breaks for businesses.

Now, the first Trump administration passed these tax cuts for businesses, which were permanent.

Correct.

The tax breaks for the middle class and the rest of us, those expired.

Well, we don't want to give you too much.

Well, exactly.

Let's not get kooky.

So the tax breaks for us expired.

The

Tax breaks for the businesses were set to expire Until they came up with the big blob of a bill.

Yeah, which then essentially kept those permanent tax breaks for a business in place So he's claiming your tax was would have gone up by X percent well That's because Trump cut your taxes by X percent the last time he was in office and this is what they tend to do with a lot of these measures is

It's all good for business and the ultra wealthy.

We want those changes made permanently if it's for the rest of us Well two three years, that's good enough.

Well, and this goes back to the old adage of you know, if we give these businesses the tax cuts forever Guys just wait you'll be showered in money the

Savings they have they will pass along to you.

Oh, yeah in price decreases jobs benefits all up your wages are going up, baby And what was interesting is if you listen to that segment Pat talk when he talked about and I would like to talk to him next Tuesday about this as well But he brought up a story about new coke with Parker his

producer.

Yes, and

what I cannot get this out of my brain I cannot stop thinking about those two topics in that same segment because

New Coca-Cola puts out New Coke.

The public overwhelmingly says, no.

We hate it.

So what does New Coke do?

They say, all right, we'll give you Coke classic back.

Here you go.

Our bad, our mistake.

Derek Van Orden is an elected official of the people of the third district of Wisconsin, the United States.

He is voting currently for things that are wildly unpopular by the people.

How does it that Coca-Cola, billion dollar brand,

has more invested with the people's ideas and their will to buy their product than Derek Van Orton, who says, I don't care what you think.

And I'm going to lie my.

face off to get me there.

He must feel pretty comfy in that seat.

Oh, indeed.

You know what

would help him to stay in that seat?

Getting rid of mail-in voting.

Yeah.

We should just mail-in voting.

It's bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.

Well, except for last year.

We're going to kick that around with our friend and colleague and travel companion Todd Alba after the news.

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An hour from now is the segment that we call Audio Sorbet where we lighten things up and take a breath and get away from the news.

We're going to talk about foods you discovered late in life.

We're

far

away Jim Santel our colleague here at Civic Media who does amicus a law review on Saturdays 9 to 11 We saw Jim Santel over the weekend.

He discovered a new food.

He did not know this existed This was novel for him He

was so interested and if you're interested in finding out what that food was you have to tune in

It was both the funniest and the most adorable thing I've seen in a while.

So cute.

So,

yes, we're going to talk about foods you discovered late in life.

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Todd Alba is here.

Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Jane.

Wait a minute.

Is the mic on?

Can you hear me or not?

We can hear you.

All right.

Awesome, Fanta.

I can't hear myself, but yeah, I can hear you.

As long as you can hear me, we're all good.

Welcome to

our yesterday.

Oh, yeah.

Yeoman's job down there.

I felt bad for you because I've been in similar positions, maybe not that.

for that long.

But I knew something was wrong when I came into the Madison Studios and where Dom had been sitting, blood everywhere.

And I thought, well, this could not have been good.

This was not good.

I was a little nervous

too.

There was a lot of

frantic activity going on behind the scenes yesterday as all of our engineers and everybody trying to get that

our issues resolved.

At one point, I was trying to work on something and I accidentally spilled and broke.

Jane's coffee mug and completely forgot about it.

And then later producer Jacob, who does the Maggie Dawn show, which is four to six Monday through Friday here on the Civic Media Radio Network, he says, why is there, why is there a broken coffee mug and sticky floor here?

I'm like, Oh, that's one of the many things I forgot about because the entire studio imploded on us.

Yeah.

I have more coffee problems.

Now I

got to use my new butter, my new butternut coffee cup.

So

from our

trip from from butternut so

before we go any further also may I say Greg Bach you look fabulous I mean he has a new summer do I have I tuned in yesterday on the because I thought well maybe my maybe my app wasn't working so I'm not gonna run I'll go to the live stream and then I said well clearly this is the cause the problems Greg has a whole new look and nobody can handle it you look great

Doesn't he, though?

Thank you very much.

I

appreciate

it.

Well, here, Clippy, a little

beard

Clippy, looks very, very nice.

Yeah.

I'm going for I'm going for early 90s failed comedian look, you know, just or being a band.

You're almost there.

Failed comedian.

I know.

I know.

There's a little bit.

There's a little bit of all the family Rob Reiner there.

We'll

blame my my dashing good looks on on the technical difficulties I'll take that we'll go with that.

Yeah, whatever works.

We are delighted to have you here and one of the things we wanted to talk about President Trump Who of course takes his best advice from Vladimir Putin the president of Russia Vlad reinforced

Trump's belief that mail-in voting is bad, and mail-in voting is nothing but corruption, and everyone who votes by mail is cheating.

And therefore, Vlad says mail-in voting is bad, so Donald Trump now wants to get rid of mail-in voting.

And Wisconsin's own Brian Style weighing in on this saying, we should take a look at that.

Yeah, it's so it's pretty shocking.

I watched the entire gaggle as they say with the press all gathers around in the in the oval office yesterday and Yeah, okay, so it went better than the first time that dove Lodomir Zelensky the president of Ukraine showed up because there was no You don't have the cards and all that nonsense.

They actually you know got along for the cameras But the the press was would fat way to you know, it was for Ukraine I get that I watched it.

What if I'm really interesting is

For people that know me, they know I'm big.

I guess it's just a lifelong thing.

I watched a lot of CBS and so I watched the CBS News Special Report, John Dickerson, who I think is a great anchor reporter.

He actually has spoken out about the Skydance Paramount merger.

And the post, when they come back to the studio after the whole thing is over, all they talked about was the Ukraine stuff.

And okay, there was some, I would call it moderate news at the most.

Okay, we're sitting down at the European leaders, yada, yada, yada.

Just like the whole thing up in Alaska, in my opinion, it was kind of a whole nothing burger other than the United States diplomacy being embarrassed and you're putting Vladimir Putin back on the world stage and literally using the U.S.

Marines to roll out the red carpet for him.

I

just want to

stop you right there.

I want to stop you right there.

Just to point out, we had U.S.

Marines on their hands and knees rolling out the red carpet for Vladimir Putin.

Didn't do that for Zelensky yesterday when the president of Ukraine met with him, but we rolled out the red carpet

for literally

for Vladimir Putin.

It was it was pretty sick in my opinion.

So during this press conference or gaggle, it was on Ukraine.

At one point, I believe it was a Fox News reporter asked Zelensky, will you be willing to hold elections?

And to summarize a pair of phrase, Linsky said, yes, sure, of course, but first we have to have peace because you can't have a legitimate election when a third of your country is unable to vote because they're occupied by a foreign country.

Right.

And Trump picks up on this and says, wait a minute, wait, wait.

So you're saying in three years, if we have something going on here, no elections.

Good.

Mm-hmm

good.

He said and then every that was let's get kind of nervously laughed and everybody kind of nervously laughs I think one right and and so I'm like let that that ain't good because we know the pattern right because you know He jokes about something that it kind of isn't a joke and then it happens And then he goes on which I think is more disturbing which he says he and again kind of a tangent

He says that he's working on an executive order, which he intends to sign, which will end all mail-in balloting of voting across the country, which he can't

do that.

Well,

he

can say executive

order, but sure state states rights.

Todd, what about states

rights?

States handle their own

elections.

It'll all come down to the Supreme Court, and I'm not sure about you, but I have no particular faith that those people will uphold the right thing.

The majority, at least the majority of the six conservatives.

So you're right.

You're right.

Technically, he can't do that, but he's going to try.

And I think what's important to your point, Jane, you're exactly right, is that it's a signal.

to Republican governors and Republican legislators, i.e.

Greg Abbott in Texas and Ron DeSantis in Florida, because you're right.

States can change that.

States can end that.

And he said the quiet part out loud yesterday, Trump did, that, hey, you know, what if we don't have mail-in balloting?

It makes it really difficult for Democrats to win.

So I'm sorry, that's kind of a longer explanation you wanted, but and you're right, style who sits on the committee that oversees federal elections, he gets on and he said, I support President Trump in doing this.

And also I saw US Senator Marsha Blackburn, Republican out of Tennessee.

She immediately jumped over.

There's a shock.

Yeah.

If you're just joining us on Matt and Aaron here on the Civic Media Radio Network, we are talking to Todd Alba, who is the host of his own show on 2 p.m.

to 4 p.m.

The Todd Alba show on the Civic Media Radio Night.

He is resplendent, by the way, in Brewer's attire and loving the fact that Brewer's number one.

I'm just going to point that out really quick.

But I want to get back to

something- Hang on, just to let you mention that, I have this in my pocket.

The giant communion host?

Oh.

Oh, it's

a pocket pancake!

Yeah!

I

thought it was a giant communion host, okay It's the it's the perfect thing for a morning mat and air on air breakfast treat a pocket pancake

seriously a cold pancake

We're not

entertaining Jane's crazy questions right now, okay?

That's a

whole other argument.

We could do a whole... I think I have an audio gripe about pocket pancakes.

Really?

We were all on pocket pancakes before and now all of a sudden you're anti-pocket pancake?

But

pulling the cold pancake out of your... There's just some crimes.

There's food crimes there.

I'm just... I haven't narrowed it down yet, but we'll

think about that.

But I'd like to get... I'd like to hook this back to this conversation.

about mail-in voting to something that is immediately pops into my mind.

First of all, let's just say there's a version of this story that ends all mail-in.

I'll make it simple.

There's a version of this story that makes it that you can only vote on the day registered in this country, period.

That's it.

You get rid of all other kinds of voting.

The amount of people this is going to affect, including their own voters, is something once again they are not thinking about.

And then my other thought goes to Mr. Brian Schimming, who in December of 2023 in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel when he first took the job as the head of Wisconsin GOP said, all sacred cows are on the table.

And one of the things he talked about with regard to their party and their inflexibility was mail-in voting.

And he was pushing the move in 24.

Slowly and then Donald Trump seemed to endorse it and it it got more traction people got behind it and Mail in ballot was a thing they were endorsing so now they have to change course again and say well, sorry everything We said a year and a half ago, but we were wrong I don't there I know they're not even going to address the issue in the first place But it goes back to my original point is the amount of people that will be affected by this

is astronomical, and that includes people who want to vote for them.

Yeah.

Well, and for one

thing, the W word is never going to cross his lips, that they were wrong.

That's a, they never, you can't ever say

that.

You can't ever,

ever, ever say that you were wrong.

It's we're going to take another look at.

Yes.

Not that I screwed up or I made a mistake.

It's like this, we need to have another look at this.

And it's interesting, Greg, because

Republicans in part credit early voting, including mail-in voting for Trump's 2024 win, and they spent months and months and months pushing Republican voters to vote by mail.

But now, since Daddy Putin says that it's bad, son Donnie is gonna do what Vlad wants.

Which also, if I'm mistaken, I saw this in an article, Russia has mail-in voting.

Yes.

There are countries, I believe there are at least 12 countries that have mail in voting.

And what

about

all our service members overseas?

Well,

that's part of the group.

We don't care about them, they shouldn't get to vote.

I know Brian should be pretty well back in my Republican days.

And I invited him on our show yesterday via Twitter.

We follow each other on Twitter.

Really?

And I said, come on the show.

Because I said, look, when when you called for Republicans to embrace and expand mail and voting, I gave you credit for that.

And I think because I share shimmings.

thought, I think, that all eligible U.S.

citizens should be able to vote and we should make it as accessible as possible.

When I used to go out and speak on behalf of my former bosses, I'd say, hey, I don't care if you're going to vote Republican or Democratic or something else.

Just vote.

Exercise your constitution.

Yeah, exactly.

We're going to continue our conversation with our friend and colleague and travel companion Todd Alba, host of the Todd Alba show from two to four as he eats his cold pocket pancake.

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Welcome, welcome back to Matt and air on air.

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Pacific Media's World headquarters downtown Madison just above State Street.

That's where Dom is.

We are joined by our friend and colleague and travel companion Todd Alba from the wonderful Todd Alba show two to four across the network.

Coming up today on Todd's show, you're going to be talking about mental health, Todd.

Yeah, I thought we'd touch on this a little bit.

I mean, I don't know.

You guys have talked about it.

We've talked about other shows and talked about it.

But there's a story in the in I think it appeared both the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and the Wisconsin State Journal over the weekend that I don't think got enough play, which is that the former women's basketball coach coach Mosley at Wisconsin is being sued by five former players along with former athletic.

assistant athletic director, Justin Doherty, for mental abuse and saying they created a toxic environment in which to play.

And Coach Mosley was allowed to quote unquote, resign at the end of last season.

And this comes after we had a reporter on a couple of months ago talking about

the death by suicide of a former University of Wisconsin track member of a woman.

And so, you know, look, I think they're...

I went to a thing this summer here in Madison.

Our usual friend, Kristen Brigh, hosted an evening with Monte Ball, former University of Wisconsin football star, and went on to play for Denver and dealt with addiction issues.

And now has been sober for several years, but an advocate.

And that evening was so powerful because there were mental health experts from UW Athletics there that evening.

And he was talking about

You know, you're 18, 19 years old.

So much pressure.

And you're a star, quote, you know.

And even in that time, remember, this is before NIL money.

Yeah.

And I think that what gets lost in today's athletics, and we, myself included, as fans sit in the stand and say, how could you not catch that ball?

You know, how could you not make that shot?

And.

And now you put on hundreds of thousands, if not in some case, a million dollars on these teenagers.

And then you have coaches, some, not all, because I think there are some coaches that are doing great with this, and it creates a really dangerous situation.

So I want to delve into that a little bit on today's

show.

That's really important.

It is.

And I think we forget they're kids.

They're really just kids.

That's a lot of pressure to deal with, and then you throw all that money in there, and then I'm sure there's family pressures.

Some of these kids have to become the breadwinner for the family at that point.

Yeah, exactly.

And you're 100% right, Jane.

And there are particularly, seems to be more often than not, maybe lack of opportunities on the women's side, I don't know exactly.

But particularly in football and men's basketball, Jane, you're exactly right.

These kids, you know, in middle school, high school, are saying the only way for my family to get out of poverty is for me to be a star.

And this is all on me.

And that's the way they look at it, whether the family really thinks that or not.

Right, right.

Well, it might be self-imposed pressure, but the pressure is there.

That should be a great show.

Join Todd this afternoon from two to four as he talks about our athletes and mental health and mental health, a much bigger discussion to have over many, many different areas.

In the time that we have left out, I do want to go back to the mail-in voting.

Of course, Donald Trump met with Vladimir Putin on Friday, gave him a...

red carpet welcome and Vlad says mail-in voting isn't safe so now Trump wants to get rid of mail-in voting and we have all the Republicans, surprise, who are jumping on board saying yes this this needs to be looked at we need to examine this even though there are Republicans who have said thank God for mail-in voting last year because that's what helped Trump win.

Yeah, and I appreciate you bringing it back because as you guys know from traveling with me Todd gets off on a tangent now and again And I think I did not make my one of my points was this coverage from CBS and not just them the other networks They never all they focused on was the kind of the Ukrainian nothing burger They never went back and actually talked I watched the CBS evening news last night what we're talking about right now

was never even mentioned.

Not even,

let alone a story, never even mentioned number one.

So I think that mainstream media really is, now you got MSNBC rebranding itself, more Trumponian.

That's a whole other kettle of fish.

This is, I think, an important point.

Derek van Orton from the third district of Wisconsin was going off on this a heat all in on Trump one gave it a of a balloting I rarely tweet at down at Derek Trump.

I'm not I rarely do this, but

I said hey

Hey, Derek van Orton your at whisk GOP chair at Brian shimmings said Participation in mail-in voting was critical the GOP having success by all accounts more Wisconsin ours did compared to 20

and Trump won Wisconsin.

Now Trump calls mail-in voting quote-unquote corrupt and says it has to be stopped, which would disenfranchise, to your point, Jane, deployed active-duty military and many disabled vets from voting.

Who's right?

And I think that I would just encourage folks, as we move forward, myself included, is less harping, screaming, and screeching, and use the big word as cognitive dissidents, the everyday word is, encourage people to look in the mirror.

encourage people to look in the mirror and say, does this line up with what you believe?

Because, hey, if Derrick Van Horten, I'll give him better for the doubt, wants to support military, which I do as well, and veterans, which I do as well, then you shouldn't be for ending male and ballet because it takes away the right to vote.

Well, and then Jenny on the live stream says, anytime

anytime find themselves in a convo about mail-in voting repeat mail-in voting is absentee voting like a broken record and I understand that point but at a certain at a certain point those individuals aren't gonna care they're gonna they're gonna start believing that the only way to vote is on the day in person and get rid of early registration as well

and let's not forget that is it newsmax

that just got fined $77 million for lying to their viewers about voting machines.

Something to think about there.

Thank you, my friend, Todd Alba.

Two to four today.

We'll see you in a couple of weeks.

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I made a mistake.

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The first game.

Both games.

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Dr. Ben Weston is the Chief Health Policy Advisor for Milwaukee County, also the Chief Medical Director for the Milwaukee County Office of Emergency Management, and Jim Case is the City of Wauwatosa Fire Chief.

Gentlemen, good morning.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Thanks for having us.

to start off with you.

I guess a little bit.

We're talking about flood damage and.

What a mess.

We have at least 13,000 households now in Milwaukee County alone that have reported damage and.

I said this last week in the first couple of days afterwards, it just gets worse.

All this story people with collapsed basement walls and 10 feet of water.

I mean, the basement was full.

They had a foot of water on the first floor.

It's really hard to wrap your brain around.

That's right.

I mean, you see a lot of it just driving around Milwaukee County in the different neighborhoods.

You can see, you know, park paths collapsed, baseball diamonds collapsed in, but really what you don't see is what's inside everyone's home and that lots of folks are really struggling here.

Whether it's just a little bit of water or a lot of water, it can create a lot of problems for those folks, not just in the

days and weeks ahead, but months and years down the road.

Absolutely.

We had six inches of water.

I feel so blessed that we only had six inches of water.

At the same time, I had a new water heater delivered yesterday.

That's $2,500 for folks who do.

We know a lot of people don't even have $5,000 worth of savings available to them.

How do you come back?

What if you lose your furnace and your water heater and your washer and dryer?

And in a lot of instances, Dr. Weston, insurance doesn't cover this.

That's right.

That's right.

And there's a lot of different layers to unpack here.

And so in the immediacy, as you're cleaning, there's hazards that you have to be careful of.

It could be that there's sharp objects under that water, whether it's in your driveway or in your basement, there could be electric currents.

There could be chemical runoff.

There could be sewage in that water.

And then even once that water is gone and things look okay, what's going on beneath the surface?

Are you having mold starting to grow in the pad underneath your carpet or in the drywall or the wood that got touched by that water?

And so those sort of things don't appear immediately, but they can cause respiratory issues and other problems down the

line.

regarding these floods here, especially in this location, southeastern Wisconsin, we've spoken to our meteorologist, Brittany Merleau, about this.

We're not used to this.

I said on the air that when I saw that video footage of the drone shot from Ampham Field coming back and showing the cars,

That was when I realized it was Milwaukee.

I thought everyone was, I'm like, this, why are people saying Milwaukee?

That's not Milwaukee.

This never happens.

But not only does it happen as we see, it's something we need to get used to.

And it's about planning for yourself.

We can't plan total damage, but what we can do is, and this is a question to both of you, is what can we have ready to go in our homes to be ready in these situations, whether it's just, you know, a good mop.

flashlight, batteries, that kind of thing.

What are your suggestions so people can at least be prepared a little bit if something like this occurs again?

Chief Case, we'll start with you

if you

don't mind.

Absolutely.

Good morning.

Thanks for having us.

Yeah, this is one of the messages that we continue to push out to our public, whether it's flooding, tornadoes, other severe weather, blizzards, anything like that, to have kind of a to-go kit.

That gold kit, we've pushed that message out for years now.

And it's everything you really need.

We talk about making sure you've got your medications.

If you do have to get out of the home quickly, that you take your pets and you take things you're gonna need for a while, because we've seen in past events, whether it's in this region or on the state or on the country, that while we hope to get you back to your house quick, sometimes it's days, weeks, or unfortunately months.

before you can get back to those impacted areas.

So to go kits with those critical documents, points of contact, where are you going to go, things like that, but also simple stuff.

A case of drinking water, you know, some bottled water, a flashlight, you know, some food that won't spoil, things like that, just so you can kind of hold your own for a while until the emergency response until we can get there.

Needless to say, it was an overwhelming flooding issue

and

everybody throughout Milwaukee County and Southeast Wisconsin, we were tapped.

We were calling in resources from other areas of the state to come help us.

So you may have to, unless it's a true life threatening, hey, we got to rescue you out of those rising waters, you may have to fend for yourself for a little while.

So yeah, being prepared for some of those things is a great idea.

Well, and Chief Case, this is something that we've mentioned as well.

This is where neighbors can step in and help if you have folks who, again, aren't pretty good, you know.

They're not going to have a water heater for two weeks.

They need to do laundry.

They need to take a shower.

They need to.

I did that for a week with a little house in the prairie and your water up.

You heat the water in the stove and stuff like that.

But if you can, if you can offer your neighbors a place to go again, to at least do a couple loads of laundry or take a shower or have to give the kids a bath, that that'll be huge because I'm imagining chief case for some of the damage that you've seen in Walworth, Hosa.

There are people who are going to be out of their homes for months.

absolutely yeah the neighbors helping neighbors you know our response force is limited we can only get to so many things and we encourage that but we also recognize there's a portion of our population that we push a lot of messages out in different media formats whether it's tv radio social media but we know some of our other populations whether that's non-english speaking or seniors things like that they don't get some of that messaging the ways

we normally push it out.

So, hey, not only to go check on them, but what the situation is.

And to let us know what their without a doubt, we're going to be longstanding.

And un a big impact on on this

If you're just joining us, Dr. Ben Weston is our guest.

He's Milwaukee County's chief health policy advisor and Jim Case, the fire chief for the city of Wauwatosa.

And we're talking about the flood damage after the floods from last weekend.

Dr. Weston, let's talk a little bit about black mold because again, if this is something you've only heard about, you know, on a side thing, there are very, very serious health ramifications that we're talking when we're talking about mold.

Absolutely.

There's a few key steps you want to think about when we're talking about mold.

So first, understand where that mold is likely to be.

So the mold's going to thrive and carpet in drywall and insulation, cardboard, furniture, really anything that's porous, anything that can soak up the water and give that mold somewhere to cling on and to grow.

Number two, you got to act quickly.

And if you haven't acted already, we're more than a weekend.

Now is the time.

Open the windows, open the doors, run fans, dry that area out, ventilate that area as well as you can.

And when you're doing all this, number three, you'll want to do it safely.

So you want to be wearing a mask.

You want to be wearing gloves.

You

want to be

wearing goggles if it's going to be splashing around.

You want to be careful how you're mixing your chemicals.

Don't mix bleach and ammonia.

You can create a toxic mix there.

And so you want to do this with caution, but you want to do it thoroughly, clean things, dry them out so that you're not dealing with this way down the line.

Yeah, most definitely if you could get to it again sooner is always better than than letting it wait.

But as we talked about to Dr Weston, if you don't have any power, this happened to us a number of years ago, you can't clean up the basement because you can't see anything.

That's right.

That's right.

There are

compounded challenges here, but at least you can start, you know, getting the flashlight down there, getting the wet stuff out.

And this goes back to helping neighbors.

There's a lot of folks out there who, maybe they're older, maybe they live alone.

They can't carry that couch out.

So knock on their door, say, how can I help you?

I heard you got water in your basement.

What can I do to help?

Cause to chief's case's point, you get the fire departments, you get public health, you get the county, everybody can only do so much.

And so helping each other at times like this is critical as well.

And unfortunately, as we're finding out,

flood insurance, it really depends upon what kind of coverage you have as far as whether or not this is going to help you.

That's right.

I mean, this is not something we see on a monthly yearly sort of basis, whether it's in Wauwatosa or the rest of the county.

There's areas that get some flooding here and there, but we're seeing unprecedented flooding houses that never thought they would have to worry about water damage.

that are getting not just inches, but feet of water.

So really an unusual event and something that people haven't planned for.

And here's the question.

I saw a story about a couple whose floodplain status was changed and they said that they did not know.

And I contacted my mortgage lender and I asked her about that and she said that if that were to happen, we would get a letter from the bank saying your floodplain has changed, you must have flood insurance for your mortgage.

But that's in my situation.

This is a question to both of you.

As far as floodplain and information, how do people go out and find that information, especially if it's changed so they can, if they do want to invest in flood insurance, how do they keep themselves covered on that?

Because that's, I mean, those are studies being done.

And if you're getting something in the mail, a lot of people just chuck the mail nowadays because it all looks like bills to them.

So what would they do to find this out?

Doc, I'll just jump in real quick from a municipality standpoint.

One of the things we encourage our residents to do is if you're not sure on something, contact your municipality, whether that's your city engineer or your building department.

They have all those floodplains mapped out.

They know all the residents that are listed in there.

And if they don't have the answer, they can at least get you in contact with someone.

As far as the insured side of it goes, obviously a little outside of my lane.

But yeah, I think whatever municipality you're living, whether that's city of Milwaukee, Wauwatosa, or throughout the county,

we have options to be able to dig some of that information up for you.

Well, and I think this is going to be important going forward because it's likely that some of these flood plain lines are going to change now because of instances like this.

Well, I

think, I think a great example, like we talked about down in obviously while it's also focused our area down in Hart Park, experienced significant flooding, significant damage to our football field, our senior centers and things like that.

But at the end of the day, that used to be

that experienced recurrent flooding in 1996, 97, 98.

And the decision was made in conjunction with the city, state and federal resources that we're not gonna rebuild and we're gonna basically purchase all those homes and now it's turned into a park.

While the flooding down there was significant, it wasn't life-threatening.

We didn't, we weren't getting people out of houses like we had in the late 90s and early 2000s.

I remember that chief.

I remember that because again, I was in New Berlin.

I had two and a half feet that time around.

But I remember when Wauwatosa bought all those homes.

And the whole idea was to give the water more area to have some place to soak in, right?

And we're going to be seeing more of this as we have to deal with things like this.

And it's never, it's never an easy discussion.

And we expect some of those discussions will probably happen here, you know, over the next few months of what's the right, what's the right choice?

I can't, can't say what that is now.

But, you know, some of those discussions may happen again now.

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Right now we are very happy to be joined by Ben West and Dr Ben West and Milwaukee County's chief health policy advisor and Jim Case, the fire chief from the city of Wauwatosa talking about the incredible damage from the floods from last weekend.

Over 13,000 people in Milwaukee County alone have so far reported damage.

Chief case.

Can you tell us?

why is it important for people to report damage to 211?

If you can't call that number, you can do it online.

But why is that important that people do this?

Absolutely.

It's kind of a one-stop shop, if you will, that when we had the initial damage, that was one of the places we were directing everybody to call.

Hey, to report your damage, let us know what happened to your house.

That allowed us

to after the initial life saving actions were taken that we can get out and do some of those damage assessments rather than knocking door to door and trying to hit every house in the region.

That gave us a little bit of focus so we can we can dial in on those those that were impacted.

As that continues it helps us gain a better develop a better situational awareness a better picture of how widespread this impact is.

but allow us to get help to the folks that need it.

And I think now we're shifting that a little bit and Doc Weston can jump in on this one.

Now it's more of what do you need, are the resources you need?

Do you need help with anything?

We talked about, hey, if you still have wet carpet in your basement or you're not able to get that furniture out, going to 211 or filing something on 211.com on their website gives them access to non-profit and groups that want to help do some of those things.

So Doc Weston, I don't know if you got more on that side.

No, that's exactly right, Chief.

So one of the things you can do when you register your damage on 2-1-1, in addition to documenting that damage, providing that information to federal resources to try to get support to our region, as Chief mentioned, you can also say, I need help.

I have furniture in my basement.

I can't get up.

I have drywall.

I need cut out.

I have water.

I need sucked out of the basement, whatever it is.

And then you can be, as Chief mentions, matched up.

You can be matched up with volunteer agencies that are saying, we want to help.

What can we do?

We get water out of basements, but we don't know where to start.

Who should we start with?

And that allows them to kind of go to communities, go to geographic areas and help folks out.

and you had mentioned earlier and I just have this vision in my head now of some elderly resident.

For people who have never had to remove carpeting that is soaking wet, it weighs a ton.

It weighs a ton.

My niece and her husband are in their 40s.

They're in good shape.

And she was talking about what a nightmare it was to get that stuff out.

So there are folks who are going to need a hand.

Is there a place for people to go, Dr. Weston, if they would like to volunteer to help people?

Yep, so there's a you can do that through two on one as well.

You can also We're working on getting a central repository for individuals right now.

It's more for businesses and organizations But we're working on a central repository for individuals that say I want to help out as well

and This is you know, this kind of wraps into where my question was going to go is

These are the good places to go and calling your municipality and imagine calling the fire department for questions as well.

Staying away from maybe social media influencers, things of that nature is not the way to find your information.

It's going to these groups, organizations, governmental entities and asking the questions to get the answers you need because that's, you need the right information and you need the accurate information from the experts.

Don't be following your cousin's dog walker's best friend who says it's fine to wade in floodwaters.

lot.

All right.

It's really dangerous.

As you said, Chief David, our case, you don't know what's in that water.

And

no, and

that's a great point.

And we're asking people, well, the waters reset, you know, went down a little bit, things are looking a little better in that respect.

Stay out of those areas.

We've still

got some significant damage along the rivers.

We don't know what those banks look like.

Areas have washed out.

There could be sinkholes, things like that.

So we just ask, even though right now, maybe there's not fences up, maybe it's not taped off anymore, just to stay away and quite frankly, to give us a little bit of space and a little bit of opportunity to continue this recovery process.

So

we don't add to the...

to the injuries and to the number of people that are impacted.

What we don't want is,

late in the afternoon on Sunday, we started to feel like things were getting a little better.

And we had a gentleman that decided kayaking down the river was a good idea.

So

we

had to send some resources out.

Fortunately, we were able to get them out after his kayak capsized and he was holding on to a tree.

But yeah, we're just asking people stay out of those areas, out of the parks, out of those impacted neighborhoods so that the work can get done.

Let's not make more work for our first responders.

I think they're kind of exhausted the way it is.

Uh, Wauwatosa Fire Chief Jim Case and Dr. Ben Weston Milwaukee County Chief Health Policy Advisor.

Thank you so very much for your time this morning, gentlemen.

We really, really appreciate it.

Thank you for the opportunity.

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