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A lot of people applying for U.S.

passports.

And there are some issues.

There's always a scammer out there trying to make money off of somebody.

There's always a scammer

out there making money

on people.

Pretty much, unfortunately.

So Lisa Schiller from the BBB is going to join us at 9.35 to give you some heads up, give us all some heads up about what scams to be on the lookout for, particularly if you are applying for a U.S.

passport.

So stick around for that.

In hour number two at 10 o'clock, Bob Kennedy Jr.

Testifying yesterday on Capitol Hill, he's big on wearables.

Like an Apple Watch.

You have an Apple Watch, right?

I do not have an Apple Watch.

Oh, what is the thing?

This is

just a Garmin.

It's

not just a Garmin, but it's not an Apple

Watch.

It's not an Apple Watch.

Bob Jr., all big on wearables.

We should all have them.

We should all subscribe to them.

We'll kick that around next hour.

Very cheap, too, by the way.

Oh, yes, so reasonable.

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Yeah, at the age of 81.

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We have talked a lot about childcare because this is a big issue, not just in Wisconsin, but across the state.

This article from the Wisconsin Examiner, we have Eric Gunn with the byline.

Business leaders, now join the push for childcare investment in Wisconsin budget.

Last week, more than 75 business leaders sent a letter to members of the Wisconsin Legislature saying Wisconsin's lingering child care crisis can't go unaddressed any longer by state lawmakers.

Wisconsin at a workforce crossroads that prevent that presents significant challenges for businesses.

Yeah, if we lose child care and again, this additional funding for the child care accounts program expires.

Either the end of this month or early next month.

I think it's the end of this month.

The money will be gone.

Yeah.

And the estimate is that what one in four?

One

in four, which would equate to a thousand, a thousand

child

care centers that will close down.

That's on top of all the others that have closed over the years because of this ongoing problem.

One quarter of those centers will close because this has not come to a solution.

That is from Kareen Hendricks.

She is an expert.

a childcare provider, an advocate, and she has all the numbers.

And if you want to listen to a great interview last Friday, she was on the show in the first hour at 935.

She talked about this extensively.

But yeah, we are at a crossroads.

And it's once again, all of these groups of people who I'm sure they disagree on very many topics voted from different people, but they're all coming together to say, yeah, there needs to

be a solution here.

75 again 75 business leaders writing to the state legislature last week saying hey can we do something about this can we actually get this done yeah there is general recognition among business leaders that child care is essential for workers especially those with young children this from David Salada VP at the Greater Milwaukee Foundation he says the true cost of care and why most working families can't afford it

is a complex issue.

It is.

But this requires some sort of public investment to strengthen our childcare sector.

And of course, Robin Boss, he says he's open to working with the governor on childcare, but is still firmly opposed to writing out checks to providers.

But

I just

He doesn't want to work then.

He doesn't want to do this together.

He doesn't want to compromise.

He wants his way and His way is always no welfare.

Well, when you frame it like that Robin Yeah, you sound like the man who's who's who's king of the bootstraps, but this is not that is such a not Not nuanced answer to such a deeply nuanced conversation

seriously

and and your your proposal of giving tax credits to businesses to

open childcare centers in their facilities, that's insulting.

Why is it insulting?

Because they've made it very clear what these individuals need.

Childcare providers, parents, the businesses, they've made it very clear what is necessary to get past this.

But what do these...

Members of the Joint Finance Committee and Republicans do they say we've got a solution guys.

We got it.

So now it's great It's great.

We're gonna give money to businesses to open their own child

care centers fixed.

Well, and it's an interesting choice because on the one hand Robin Voss is very against giving money directly to providers Yes, but we'll give money directly to other industries to open a child care

center It's almost as if he doesn't think that child care providers are dot dot dot

business owners.

Because I don't know about you, Jane, if I was an elected official, one thing I would hate to go back to my district to and say is I am responsible for one quarter of a certain section of business closing.

Well, and then what about the fallout from that?

If we lose another thousand childcare centers, what is going to happen to the people who

depend upon that for childcare so they can go to work.

So we're going to start seeing more people leaving the workforce at the time that we need to encourage more people to get into the workforce.

I have a feeling that the overall thought of that Jane is, who cares?

Let the mom stay home.

The dads can go to work.

The way it was meant to be.

Call grandma, call grandpa, uncles, aunts, hey.

Hey, Grandma June, are you enjoying the twilight of your life?

Are you in retirement?

Come on over, take care of these kids for free, you're only 82.

But you're making a joke, but that has actually been brought up.

Oh, it is called sarcasm.

Yeah, but that has been brought up.

Yes,

exactly.

By the vice president of the United States of America.

Grandparents need to be stepping up, aunts and uncles need to be stepping up to take care of your nieces and nephews.

So people in that household can go to work.

And for the record, by the way, and this is also something that's been covered by Corrine many times on our show and on other shows, these childcare providers, these daycare centers, these business owners who I don't know if you know this, Jane, they are as the politicians call the backbones of this country.

Small businesses, yes.

They're not asking for billions of dollars.

They're not asking to get enough money to buy a second Maserati.

They don't even own a Maserati They're just they want to be able to pay their workers $13 an hour That is below the $15 general idea of minimum wage But they want to give them a small raise so they can live and they can and also so they don't have to raise their prices again

well, right and Don't you want qualified people?

to go into childcare and those guys have things because the other things that Republicans have suggested is well just like 16 year olds watch kids and put more kids together and put more kids together

those are the that was their big fix i think like a year year and a half ago was uh we're going to lower the age on who can take care of kids and we'll make sure that you can put like more kids in a room because

That solves the problem.

More children

in the

space with younger people who are less experienced.

That is the absolute solution.

Congratulations, Wisconsin Republicans and legislators of medicine.

You have fixed it.

Thanks a lot.

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If you would like to join the conversation, Christine and Slinger, listening on WAUK.

Greg, haven't you been paying attention?

These lawmakers don't answer to their constituents.

They just don't care.

I'm telling you, Christine, it sure feels like that.

I mean, he really does

anytime you try to every anytime you try to I don't even say take away the power of the legislative legislative branch I want to say anytime you try to introduce the opinion of the people Robin Voss always comes back with well this is a representative democracy well then represent the democracy and or someone like Chris Kappenga who says something effective they are the voice of the people well you're not you're not properly echoing the voice of the people you're out of tune because

Time and time again, this is a topic which Wisconsinites agree on.

There was a poll done that Kareen talked about which poll 2600 people and of that 2600 people there were parents in there and 80% are An overwhelming amount.

I think 75% did not use childcare But 80% of those individuals said we need to fix to the childcare crisis This is this is a this is a no-brainer.

It would be a win.

It would be a win for

Everyone.

Yeah.

And again, you know, we don't have a real high regard for our lawmakers.

This might actually boost their poll numbers a little bit.

If they actually did something that constituents tell them, yeah, we want this.

I mean, are you not frustrated listeners and watchers?

I mean, this is frustrating to me because these are the things that are going to benefit everyone.

And those wins are good for everyone.

And when they don't happen, when there's such obstinance, when they're sitting there going, well, we don't want to do this.

We don't want to do that.

What you're saying to me every single time is we don't want to give Governor Evers a win.

We don't want to give Democrats a win.

And we don't want to give the people of Wisconsin a win.

And that is to me just petty, childish behavior.

Well, but I go back to as well that Robin Voss and Lemahue and Keppinger.

They all believe they know best.

They know best.

That $4 billion surplus we're sitting on, they know the best way to spend it.

Yeah, we're a representative government, except when you're on the joint finance committee and you have meetings around the state, and then you ignore the top three issues that you have heard from the people you allegedly represent.

Yeah, there seems to be a disconnect there.

Folks, have you ever wondered how the voice of the people can be presented to our lawmakers?

Myvote.wi.gov.

You

can call them.

You can call them.

You can write them a letter.

It's very easy to do.

It's simple.

It won't take very long.

Be nice to the people you're talking to, but tell them.

And it doesn't even have to be childcare, by the way.

If this is not an issue that is firmly on your plate, whatever is concerning you.

my vote.wi.gov.

Stay with us when we return.

Well, this sounds like a good idea in Wisconsin.

Let's pay for it.

That might help.

All the details on the other side.

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I wanted to spend a little time about this actually right before we went to the break we were talking about an article in the Wisconsin examiner that talks about 75 business leaders in Wisconsin have now sent a letter to the legislature saying, yeah, childcare, can we fix this?

Can we do something about this?

That might be good.

John from Menominee Falls texts again, listening on WAUK.

It's all about the money.

If they spend money on the people who really need it in this state, then they don't get to have the massive tax cut for themselves so they can afford to live with nannies.

Take care for their own kids.

And there is a real amount of truth to that when, when legislator, cause a lot of legislators are, if not wealthy, rich, if not rich, well off and their lives consist of easier fix than other people and they don't understand that.

They don't understand that $250 a week per child average for childcare is hard.

We're talking about $13,000 a year.

If you're paying to what, $253 or something

like that, it works

out to like $13,000 a year.

Per child.

And as Kareen Hendricks put it, if this doesn't happen, she has to raise her prices again, which causes the parents to say, okay, can we even afford this?

Is

it worth me, is it worth both of us working

in

order

to pay this?

And it just, like I said before, Jane, they're inability to come to the table and really work on solutions that are compromised, if not something that just benefits everyone, the businesses, the businesses who sign this letter, the small businesses that are the daycare, the kids themselves who benefit from early childhood development, and the parents, the whole thing.

Your inability to do anything just makes it sound mean, makes it sound like you're doing this purposely.

Like you don't care about children, businesses, parents, like the whole thing.

It just, it doesn't matter to you.

Well, and I think in some of our discussions with Karine, she's almost kind of implied that when talking to our lawmakers face to face, it's like, do you understand what this means?

Yeah.

And they're like, yeah, okay.

Not my problem.

Yeah, it's we'll find a solution.

Don't worry about it.

Well, and again, we're we're big now up apparently this time around on Putting out programs that we just don't pay for From the Milwaukee Journal set now the Republican-controlled Assembly yesterday passed a GOP bill that aims to recruit out-of-state households to move here to help with work shortages But there's no grant money attached

So it's like here's this program.

We would like you to do but yeah, there we'd haven't put any money with it

What else is new?

I mean we're there's there are there are mandated educational changes that have been put into place That still haven't been paid for there's like 50 million dollars.

Yeah, like this is this this is not Madison does this all the time.

We have a program.

It was voted on you know, everybody agreed.

Where's the money?

Don't worry about that

It's coming later.

You pay for it.

We'll hit you up on the way.

We'll get the next time.

But yeah, this isn't surprise me at all.

Do

you think this just makes them look good?

That they're, look at our idea.

We're not gonna pay for it, but look, this is our idea.

Our idea, Senator Patrick Teston, Republican from Stevens Point and Representative David Armstrong, Republican from Rice Lake.

We direct the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation to set up a program to award grants.

for talent recruitment programs from outside the state to get people to move here.

But again, the discussion on funding is like, yeah, we don't know where we're going to pay for it.

It's just

look at our

great program.

Are you going to, I mean, will it be a thing where you reach out to, I'm just going to pick a company, SC Johnson here in Racine, you know, say to them, all right, here's some grant money or you provide grant money or see, it's so confusing.

You want people to move here.

This has been something that's been talked about for years.

Our population in Wisconsin has dwindled over the past couple decades.

And you want people to move young families, grow their families, buy property, all that stuff.

But you also have someone like Robin Voss who's like, we need to make sure that seniors don't pay taxes because we're gonna lose them if they have to pay taxes.

Their thing is making it look more attractive to live in Wisconsin by appealing to seniors.

And now they want to appeal to...

top talent in business, but they have no way of paying for it.

They want people to come here, but they have no clue on how to make that happen.

A spokesperson for Governor Evers told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Republicans made a baffling decision to cut spending to WEDEC despite the agency's success in driving economic development here in the state.

In 2024, Wisconsin saw a record investment of $2 billion in WEDEC-supported capital investments

The agency's talent, attraction efforts resulted in over 1,300 inquiries.

So again, great program.

Let's do it.

But let's just not ever pay for it.

We'll wait until Robin thinks this is a good idea.

That will be when there's a Republican governor.

We have news coming up next.

When we return, if you are trying to get a U.S.

passport, beware of scams.

The Bitter Business Bureau gonna be here when we come back.

Stay with us.

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Sadly, we lost Bobby Sherman, pop idol from the 60s and 70s, has passed away at the age of 81.

So we were talking about who we had a crush on when we were kids, because he was mine.

Yeah.

He was my kid crush.

He was.

Okay.

Yeah, that dimple in his chin is adorable.

Stick around for audio survey coming up after the 1030 news.

Right now, though, we wanted to talk about a lot of people are applying for US passports.

And as always, there are some terrible people out there who want to scam you.

That's why she is here from the Better Business Bureau, Lisa Schiller.

Good morning, Lisa.

Thanks so much for joining us.

Good morning.

Thanks for having me.

Absolutely.

So let's talk about these scammers with

passports, what is going on for that?

And how can people protect themselves?

There's always something new going on, right?

This is the thing now.

We've been receiving a lot of reports to our BBB scam tracker.

People are jumping online as they do for everything.

You know, they're looking for a mover, they're looking to get a passport or a visa.

They do an internet search and up pops websites.

They click on them and start entering very personal information.

So

Again, seeing this uptick on passport and visa scans, this really involves a fraudulent website that people don't realize are fraudulent initially.

That trick people into paying for either obtaining or renewing travel documents such as visas and passports.

And it's not inexpensive.

I mean, I want to say renewing your passport is like $150, isn't it?

Yeah, you know and here's the thing is that a lot of these websites the price will be a little bit lower But yeah, and I think that's what kind of lures people in sure like I'm looking right now at some you know notes I made I looked up some of the scam reports somebody paid $98 somebody paid $66 but then said that they had to pay $25 extra for some service fees, so I think you know I

initially to people that $66 may look cheaper.

But then as they move along in the process, oh, well, now I have to pay this shipping fee or whatever it might service fee.

Well, and not to mention, as you said, Lisa, all of the personal information you need to provide in order to get a passport, you don't want to be giving that out to the wrong people.

That's your social security number.

I think that's really the worst part of the whole thing, you know, is all your personal information, especially when applying for a passport or a visa, you know, you expect to include every piece of information possible about yourself.

You know, nobody, a red flag would not go up like, oh geez, I shouldn't be giving my social security number.

You know, so there's applying all this information and, you know, I hate to even think where it's going to end up.

This is one of those, like the passport for me,

is one of those instances where I want to walk into a place.

Like I walk into the post office or I walk into triple A. They do, they help with passports as well.

And you talk to them first and you get the, cause you're right.

We are such a Google heavy society, Lisa that we just Google.

And if it's the first

thing that comes up,

if it's the top three, they have to be reputable, right?

There's, you can't be, you can't be on there if you're not reputable, Lisa.

So yeah, those are one of those things where even now I'm, I'm on my second passport.

I've been through the process.

I know what to do when I have to renew in like seven or eight years.

I'm going to do the same thing.

I'm going to go to the post office.

I'm going to say, all right, I need to renew.

What do I need?

Because I need to have that official confirmation tonight.

I don't really want to do it online.

It just even, even if the website's legit, I'm like, this doesn't make it a little twitchy.

Yeah.

Makes it a little twitchy.

Right.

Right.

You know, as it should, I mean, you know, like you said, I mean, even if the website is legitimate, you know, you're still a little leery.

And I think that's, you know, kind of where we're at in the world right now.

But, you know, bringing that up,

It's very important to note for people that really only a legitimate website will end in dot gov when it comes to the government and offering these types of You know travel documents or official documents of any kind You know be very weary of comm of course and even dot org You know in in these cases you have to look for a dot gov.

In fact, I put out a press release

Just this week on a particular scam website that we've been receiving a lot of reports on which was us passport and visa.org And I think that org is throwing people off and they're moving forward with it and they're losing about $88 a piece.

Well, and

that's the other thing too is on top of the the Volunteered information that can be used for whatever You're paying you pay that $66 and you pay that $50 for this and the $25 for the shipping fee, but then

when you find out it's not a real thing, then you just have to pay the $150 anyways

to get the

actual passport.

Yeah,

then you got to start all over.

Right, exactly.

Yeah, it's crazy.

You know, and like you said earlier, you know, everybody is going to Google, you know, I do it, we all do it for everything.

I feel like every time I talk about any kind of scam, it starts out that way, you know, whether it be, you know, moving scams or

You know, the grant, whatever it is, you know, it starts with online shopping scenes.

It starts with people Googling.

So have to be really careful.

Would you, and really quick too about this is, I think we always bring this up is that I think people have a tendency on this topic to think that scams affect the older folks, the elderly, those who aren't as tech savvy, but that's not true at all.

These, especially is something where you're looking at passports and.

Visas.org that's something that anyone can fall for that's something that anyone can say.

Oh, this looks official.

This is this looks legit those scams know no age

Yeah, absolutely.

Um, that is a very good point and and you actually you know with with a lot of scams nowadays I want us I don't know maybe most is is going too far but with a lot of scams we're seeing the younger

age groups falling for them.

And I think that's because, you know, the younger age groups are online more than so

much.

Sure.

If you're

just

joining us, we're speaking to Lisa Schiller from the Better Business Bureau of Wisconsin, and we're talking about the latest and

the freshest scam that's out there, which is a passport scam.

And of course, as I said before, if you're looking to get your passport online, make sure it ends in .gov, go from there or go to your local post office.

They'll take care of you as well.

You mentioned the moving scam, Lisa.

What is the moving scam?

Cause I know that when we moved into our house, even it wasn't even Googling, it wasn't even Googling off that website.

It was through U-Haul.

They offered all these services for movers and you could click a moving service.

look at their review and sometimes they said things like, I paid, they didn't show up.

And that's it.

They have your money.

Is that what you're talking about?

Or is it something more nefarious?

Yeah, no, and I mentioned moving because I happen to do a TV interview yesterday with a TV local TV reporter in regards to moving scams We see these on a regular basis with better business bureau did a study on moving scams just a couple of years ago and We've updated that information as well.

So moving scams really involve moving companies that

appear to be local, appear to be real legitimate moving companies, but really are either rogue movers or they could be brokers, third parties.

There's just so much involved when it comes to people moving.

May was national moving month, and we know that not only in the month of May because of college students ending their term, but it being summer in Wisconsin,

This is a good timing moving nobody wants to move in the middle of winter if they don't have to so it's just a more common time So I think the story was very timely, but you know We really just wanted to send out a message that you know watch out for for moving scams And you don't know who you're hiring to move your items a lot of times What happens is the companies don't want to come out and do an actual estimate and view your you know the items that you have

The merchandise that you have they want to give you an estimate over the phone which can sometimes be okay, but you know you have to be very Aware of the fact that you know once they come and pick up your items You know what is that price going to go up?

Is it going to double is it?

You know are they going to move your items and then once they drop it off say

You know, because if we hear this often, you know, I'm now you owe, you know, a lot more money because you have a lot more items than we expected.

And then, you know, the person goes, well, wait a minute, I agreed on this price and they go, well, guess what?

We're not giving you your stuff.

Your whole life is in our truck and now you're stuck.

And that is what we see happen all the time.

They, they hold the items hostage.

I mean, we've known, uh, you know, companies to, uh, and I use the term loosely sometimes.

But they put the items in storage and go, heck, if they're not going to pay us, then we're not giving them their stuff.

And that's what happens.

And so

how do we protect ourselves from this, Lisa?

Right.

Well, you've got to do your research on the front end.

You have to know who you're hiring.

Do your research.

Know who you're hiring.

Know where the company is.

They're well-established.

Um, you know ask a lot of questions when you talk to the moving company Make sure that you know, you ask if they're going to do the entire move or are they hiring a third party?

Is there going to be a broker involved because oftentimes there is and people don't realize that uh, you know until uh A truck shows up without any lettering on it.

Um, and even then people, you know, just kind of think oh the moving company's here Well, it's not the moving company that you contracted with or that you hired

you know, initially.

So, you know, ask a lot of questions, make sure you have a contract, make sure everything is spelled out in that contract, you know, as far as the costs, the pickup date, the delivery date, the place of pickup, the place of delivery, you can ask enough questions, really.

Unfortunately, that means that we're going to all have to start reading all the fine print on everything.

Those incy-beancy little teeny things that you can

barely read.

Yes.

Well, I think another, I think another aspect that's very valuable is if you are of a certain age, you have friends who have moved and you ask advice and you ask questions like, did you get movers?

Who did you use?

Did you like the experience?

My wife had an experience when she moved to Wisconsin.

She went through a broker who hired a company in Illinois and a company in Wisconsin, the company, the moving company.

Illinois got the wrong size truck and the company in Wisconsin never showed up.

So it was just a terrible experience from top to bottom.

So it's those are the things you have to go through to to say like, all right, well, now we know our lesson and we'll tell other people we said before and share what you know, if you have a friend who's moving.

share your experience.

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If you have a question for Lisa Schiller from the Better Business Bureau talking about scams, there's a whole bunch of them out there.

Ollie from the North Woods is on the line.

Good morning, Ollie.

Thanks for joining us.

What did you want to ask?

Good morning and hi, Lisa.

I've been wondering about this for a long time.

So many times you see the ads for this card or that card where you get

free money from the government to buy your groceries or do whatever you want with the money on this card.

I want to know, can you tell me, are they scams?

Are they for real or is it an insurance company trying to sell insurance?

Is this something you're familiar with, Lisa?

You know, I have to be honest, I am not at all.

I have not heard of this.

But, you know, in cases like this, I would invite you to please send me a, send me a photocopy.

You know, I'll be happy to look into it and get back to you personally.

and let you know what I found out.

I'm not familiar with

those cards.

Well, Lisa and Ollie, we'll put a link in our show notes so that you can email Lisa Schiller from the Better Business Bureau.

But the one thing I would say, that sounds too good to be true.

If the government is coming to you and saying, here's a debit card with free money on it, on us, that would,

I

think that should be a little warning sign to you.

We're gonna continue

our

conversation with Lisa Schiller from the Better Business Bureau.

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She is from the better business bureau.

We're talking all things scams.

Lisa Schiller.

is here and we wanted to talk a little bit about charity scams.

I, and I'm embarrassed to admit this because we have talked to you numerous times and I like to think I'm pretty savvy about scams because you've been a guest so often and I, you know, I'm, I know what I'm talking about.

I know what to look out for.

Yeah, no.

I fell for one over the weekend.

We have a colleague who has some medical issues with his family.

And I saw a post on social media, they're looking for, it's a go, you know, go, we're raising funds as, as their family goes through this medical problem.

And I jumped right on it and donated money.

And until I got a text a short time later from a colleague here at Civic Media who said, yeah, we did that three days ago and it was a scam.

So I ended up canceling my credit card.

I put in a dispute for the charge.

We'll see whether or not I get that back.

But how do we get more educated about those things, those charity scams, those GoFundMe kinds of things, Lisa?

Yeah, the GoFundMe is an entirely different thing.

And I could see how you would, I don't want to say fall for that.

But yeah, I mean, I could see that happening.

First of all when it comes to giving we're doing it with our hearts, right and and that's what leads us and You know, I think we've all done this where we've seen you know as a plea on social media or something and it tugs at our heartstrings and we can't give quick enough I know I've done it as well Jane and and those are especially tricky is that what happened?

Did you find out it was a fake go fund me page?

It was a fake.

Yep.

It

was a

fake.

Yep.

It was a fake charity.

Yep

Fake fundraiser.

Those are the worst.

And I know those people

burn.

I'm sorry, but I'm just going to throw that out there.

I hope they burn really slowly.

I'm just saying.

No, I hear you.

You know, that's just it.

If you see a GoFundMe or, you know, some type of plea for a donation, I guess you really have to, you know, maybe check with somebody before making the donation to make sure that it's legitimate.

And I know it's gonna take a little bit of extra time, but before you go ahead and insert your credit card number in, maybe just if there's any way to check with someone else, make sure it's

legit.

Yeah, I could have directly reached out to my colleague.

One text would probably have done it, and I would have, you're right, it was just taking that one extra step to make sure that it was legitimate, which I did not do.

Yeah.

Yeah, well, I mean, you know, and that's because you let, you know, you lead with your heart and that's, you know, we're human and that just makes sense really.

And again, those GoFundMe's are a little bit harder than, you know, than others because, you know, in any other case, I would say, you know, verify charity is legitimacy through the Better Business Bureau's charity arm, our website, give.org, you know, or another one.

But, you know, in that case, it's the situation is a little bit different.

Lisa, in the time we have left, you mentioned something about a press release you put out about storm chasers.

I am intrigued.

Yeah.

Well, it's that time of year where we're seeing at least I feel, you know, and I feel like every year it gets to be a little bit more and more.

There's more storms.

There's more tornadoes.

We hear about more hurricanes, flooding, right?

Wildfires.

Absolutely.

All

of

it.

Yep.

Yeah.

And so, you know, all of these types of natural disasters bring out really the best in people, um, and strangers that help in need, but it also unfortunately brings out, uh, you know, contractors who might want to take advantage of those who have already been victimized.

Um, so we did put out a warning and we have this weird weather going on again.

Um, we just want to make sure that homeowners, uh, are very aware that

You know, there are storm chasers and out-of-town contractors that like to solicit for business.

They go door to door.

And of course, I'll put a disclaimer that not all door to door contractors model storm chasers are scammers, but many of them may lack the proper licensing

that they

need.

They, you know, are not always local, which can be a problem should you need.

you know something down the road they're not just you know up the street where they can come out and you know fix uh you know something that came off of your roof that they had fixated on so um you know very important we have some really great tips number one contact your insurance company first so if you get contacted at your doorstep

you know somebody telling you that they're in your area they were doing work or they were driving by their contractor they happen to notice oh look at your roof right you know look like you had some hail damage you know people can be caught off guard and they can you know become very uh you know uh you know uh what nervous sure um and you know yeah because they're you know they they weren't aware of that and now someone's knocking on their door telling them oh there's a problem that's bad yeah

Yeah, so number one contact your insurance company ask about your policy coverage You know, maybe they will send somebody out to inspect the so-called damage before anything else is done And of course be especially careful of any door-to-door contractors oftentimes they they request that you sign over insurance checks to them All the time better business bureau recommends getting an invoice from the contractor and paying them directly if that is the case

uh, you know, always pay with a credit card if there's any payment from you that is needed.

Um, be cautious of any request to pay it upfront or of course in full upfront, um, storm chasers like to ask for full payment or very large down payment before any work begins, right?

Or any supplies are delivered.

Uh, this is a red flag.

And, you know, be wary of, uh, places you can't see like I just mentioned, um, you know, not only your roof, um, but also, you know, crawl spaces and, uh, you know,

That's it.

Lisa Schiller from the Better Business Bureau.

We will include all the contact information in there.

Use the scam tracker.

It's

very, very valuable.

Lisa, thank you so much.

Really enjoy when you join us and thank you for making me feel better about myself.

I appreciate that.

We have news coming up next.

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starts this hour with a little bit of this Robert Kennedy Jr.

appearing yesterday before a house hearing.

Democratic lawmakers repeatedly asked Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr.

in the hearing about his actions in the Trump administration so far, including what they call a lack of transparency now.

What?

Around major decisions.

Representative Frank Polone, a Democrat from New Jersey, told Kennedy he has promoted unfounded and unscientific theories without providing data or evidence.

Polone said, science is not on your side.

No,

it never has been.

That's what we were getting.

Polone asked Kennedy if he would keep Congress informed of his decisions and answer questions from members of Congress.

And Kennedy said, yeah, I will.

Oops, Palone said Kennedy had so far not responded to 10 letters from him.

But we're all about transparency.

We'll get right on it.

We'll get right on it sometime.

Yeah.

Kennedy said that his department has gotten an unprecedented number of letters from Congress.

So he's not going to give you a day.

He can't give a date.

It's almost like Jane that the.

Congress is concerned.

They're worried about the fact that the guy who's in charge of our health and human services department doesn't.

He's not a doctor.

He's not a scientist.

He doesn't even say, you know what I'm going to do in the absence of my experience and education on these matters.

put you out of the job immediately.

I'm going to surround myself with the biggest, brightest, most smart people in the world, and we will have solutions for you.

No, it's just, it is, it is once again, the obstinance.

And then if you ever watch these, these congressional hearings, he is so, so just not rude.

He's not rude.

He's just, he's annoyed by the questioning.

His

eyes tell everything and he does not.

care that he doesn't have an answer.

Well, I think a lot of them feel like they shouldn't have to be there.

Well,

exactly.

Why are you questioning me?

And something we don't talk about also is that he is a Kennedy.

Kennedys have a very long legacy in this country of not being questioned, of not being held to accountability, of not being responsible for their actions that have had detrimental effects to individuals, families, and the country.

So...

Yeah, I think he's just sitting there going, but I'm a Kennedy.

Don't you know who I am?

Don't you know who my dad was?

We wanted to play a little bit of an exchange between Robert Kennedy, Jr.

and Representative Schreyer.

She was asking him about reports that it's not exactly being forthcoming about everything and what he knows.

And what he does not know, let's not forget Robert Kennedy Jr.

has essentially said, don't take medical advice from me.

Yeah, exactly.

Yes.

He said it to Mark Polkhan.

Yeah.

Let's play clip number two, Calvin, from Representative Shryer and her exchange with Robert Kennedy Jr.

yesterday, please.

Secretary Kennedy, yes or no, have you ever treated pertussis or whooping cough?

No,

I've

had

it.

Well, I have.

And in infants, in fact, the one I treated

Weeks old came in because the baby just stopped breathing and turned blue.

You know, it's great There's a vaccine that prevents this.

Yeah, I know senator Cassidy Had concerns about your views on this and so when he voted to confirm you as secretary of HHS on February 4th He explained that decision by saying on the Senate floor that quote if confirmed

you will maintain the CDC's advisory committee on immunization practices without changes.

Mr. Secretary, question for you.

Did you lie to Senator Cassidy when you told him you would not change this panel of experts?

I

never made that agreement.

So are you saying that Senator Cassidy lied when he was on the Senate floor, lied to the American people?

I didn't see that statement by Senator Cassidy.

I've only heard it from you, but if he said that I agreed to it, it would be inaccurate.

We believe Senator Cassidy more than we trust you when it comes to vaccinations.

It sounds to me like you gave him the answer he needed to hear in order to get his confirmation vote.

And then as soon as you were secretary, you turned around and did whatever you want.

You fired all 17 members.

Yeah.

And I want to say something really quick about that clip that clip is nearly three minutes long I had to do some extensive editing in there because it's just too much right I will be putting that entire Just the entire clip at least not the entire exchange but the entire clip in our show notes So you can see everything I took out some of the she gets a little graphic with some of the details of how children suffer, but it is

It is an amazing exchange because she is forthright She is earnest and she is trying to get answers and this man as you put it It's just look away dog ate my homework.

I don't know whatever I I didn't lie I

didn't do it.

Well, and boy that is their go-to Answer is I didn't see that statement.

Mm-hmm.

I didn't see that statement I didn't see that report.

I don't know I don't know I didn't see the tweet.

Yeah, I live in a bubble.

I just don't see anything.

Yeah, yeah, and it's once again that thing of

This is a waste of my time.

How dare you even talk to me about this?

I have better things to do like going on podcasts.

Yeah.

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Testifying yesterday before a house committee.

That didn't really go so well.

One thing he would really, really like for folks to do is get a smart watch.

Boom, I got one you got one you are you are a good human you are a maha Well, I'm done with that watch

anybody want this watch Calvin you want this watch you can have

it Robert Kennedy, Jr.

Is all about smart watches and wearables as he calls them Kelvin can we play that clip from Robert Kennedy, Jr.

Please

we're about to launch one of the biggest advertising campaigns in HHS history

to encourage Americans to use wearables.

It's a way of people can take control of their own health.

They can take responsibility.

They can see, as you know, what food is doing to their glucose levels, their heart rates, and a number of other metrics as they eat it.

And they can begin to make good judgments about their diet, about their physical activity, about the way that they live their lives.

It really has a miraculous impact on health in our country.

And it's 80 bucks a month.

And we're exploring ways of making sure that those costs can be paid for.

The Osempic is costing $1,300 a month.

If you can achieve the same thing with an $80 wearable, it's a lot better for the American people.

Well, first of all, I want to say, I think wearables are fine.

If that's your thing.

I'm wearing a wearable right now.

You are wearing a wearable and you want to keep what your heart rate and it does all kinds of biometric magical things.

I mean, right now my watch is grossly underused.

I do it to monitor my heartbeat because that's important to me.

It tells me my, wearables are not expert levels on your sleep.

It will tell you if you slept well or not.

I take that with a grain of salt.

As you know, I'm more deeply into my sleep type kind of thing.

But it also, you know, get, track tracks my steps and it tells time.

Did you know it tells time?

I'll watch that tells time.

That's so groundbreaking.

So again, I'm not, I think wearables are fine.

If that's your thing, that's great.

I think that's great.

I don't know how you can mandate something like this, especially when we go back to.

Then first lady Michelle Obama trying to get healthier food into our schools and the screeching that came from the right about I have a right to feed my kids nothing but Oreos.

Who are you to tell me?

Yeah, I I don't know if he wants to mandate them, but I will say that I want to know how much money that's going first of all I just mean being whatever I'm being I'm being a petty boy

I don't think there is an advertisement campaign happening.

I think he said that in the moment to try to sound cool and sound like he's actually

doing

something.

Let's say it's not mad.

I don't think it will be mandated I think it will be highly encouraged and if there is a program out there So what are you saying now?

Are you saying the states or the federal government will subsidize this $80 a month give you partial reimbursement tax credit?

What's the plan there because that just sounds like more spending 350 million people take half of that.

That's a hundred and twenty five and 175 million people If they're all wearing watches and they're all in this program that is a lot of money right there

And also, and I take a lot of issue at what he said at the very end.

Osempic can be a great thing.

I think some people take osempic in the place of eating better and exercising.

Osempic, along with a balanced diet and exercise, can do a lot of good for you.

A wearable can be a part of that.

You don't do a wearable versus osempic.

If I have a glucose reader on my wrist, that's not just going to be

the reason why I lose weight.

It's going to be because maybe I am taking ozempic.

I am exercising.

It's not one versus the other.

Don't demonize ozempic.

Just say it'll be part of someone's health journey.

Yeah,

it is a piece of the puzzle.

Exactly.

It is just a piece of the puzzle.

And what I wonder is if this is going to be there, we don't need vaccines.

We don't need anything.

We

don't need any preventative health care.

You've got your watch.

You've got your wearable.

That's all you need to help you live a healthy life and get your wearable on your on your own It'll be a Trump wearable through the Trump walk.

That's another question I would love to look at who is investing in these wearables and what connections they have between members of Congress I think that would be very interesting.

Well, I wouldn't be surprised.

I mean, you know, I don't know that is well, could he go back to my original statement?

I don't think there's a program.

I don't think there's anything at all

because wearables is something that has never been discussed by anyone.

I've never heard anyone before Robert Kennedy Jr.

saying, you know, it was really great wearables.

I mean, they

all wear smart watches because it's the cool thing to do.

You got to buy an Apple watch because you have an iPhone and blah, blah, blah.

But I think if you really want to make a watch or a Fitbit, whatever that thing is,

A part of your health journey there is a place for it and there are ways and and the health and human services department should work on getting a program on the website to talk about the integration of Technologies into your health journey along with maybe medications if you need it talk to a doctor

Yeah, an actual doctor who like gives medical advice that but went to medical school

But not some like oh, we're gonna put a lot of money into an advertisement campaign.

What it Okay, how does that make us healthy again?

I know there are options, but that's nothing that's nothing that means nothing to me

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, Kevin.

How you feeling about wearables?

Is this something that you would... Do you have a... You don't wear a watch, do you?

No, I don't.

I... I find the idea kind of silly.

To be completely honest with you.

A watch?

No, the wearable.

Um... I didn't know.

I don't think a standard one can track your glucose.

I think that...

would be a pretty advanced one.

I don't have an

option online.

That's an interesting question.

We'll look that up during the break.

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should we

should do it in a

word.

We should maybe go

I think it's a great idea.

I do.

We

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Brewer's hosting the Pirates today at 1235.

Before we went to the break, we were talking about Robert Kennedy Jr.

testifying to a House committee yesterday, and he wants every American to use like a wearable watch so we can keep track of our health.

And I don't think that's a bad idea if people want to do that.

I

think having the choice to do it, I think that's great.

They're very

ubiquitous.

A lot of people have that.

A lot of people do do that, but he's saying, you know, how bad can it be 80 bucks a month?

Yeah.

And if, I mean, to me, that's code.

Whenever a rich person or a really powerful person or both, it's not mutually exclusive, says something like that, like $80 and kind of just tosses it away.

That's a rich person talking.

$80 a month.

comes out to $960 a year.

That is roughly, you know, that is, that may be a one mortgage payment for someone or half of their mortgage payment.

And because I am who I am, that's petty.

I looked it up.

I was very conservative with the number, 350 million people.

I have that, that's 175 million.

I said, all right, I'll just say if 70 million people,

And I think that's a lot too,

but I would say

70 million people took part in a program where you got your $80 a month subsidized by the government.

Cause he says we want to find a way to pay for this.

That would be $67.2 billion a year just for that one program.

So again, this, I don't think, and that just seems like, I don't know what's the phrase I'm looking for, wasteful spending.

Well, if we get rid of all of the other health services the US government offers, maybe we can just do wearables.

And that's all we need.

And I also looked it up, because we talked about it at the very end of the last segment, and Calvin brought something up as well.

There is no FDA-approved smartwatch that can monitor your glucose.

You have to do a finger prick, or as it says, an invasive...

Program Calvin brought up an article Calvin you so you you found something online about a I know actually some of my friends have this have this Item on them because they suffer from diabetes and they need to know their glucose at all times

Yeah, this is an article from March of last year talking about the first ever over-the-counter continuous glucose monitor and it's Still like it's some it's primarily targeted for diabetics.

It's still something that has

to be inserted into your

skin.

So if that's what Robert F. Kennedy means, he wants everyone walking around with tags connected into their skin that connect to their phones.

That sounds awfully like what people thought they were doing with COVID.

You mean injecting

microchips?

Yeah, precisely.

Well, and the thing too is that do you want to have a watch that has a slight pinprick on it that jams into your room?

I mean, I'm not being funny here.

I'm being totally serious.

This goes back to the notion.

I don't think there's a program.

I don't think this is anything he's truly thought about.

Because once they say, I have a lot of friends, I stop listening.

If you really want to put together one of the things that the Health and Human Services Program does in conjunction with states, lawmakers.

Religious and community leaders are looking at options on how to bring health to communities and you can do that and come up with a program that involves wearables.

Maybe it is a tax credit for wearables.

I don't know, but like there's other ways of doing this where you introduce a health journey into someone's life and give them the information needed, not just say, here's a watch, wear it.

That's and good luck.

That is.

That's dumb and Megan on the live stream says my question is where are their wearables for 80 bucks on

Amazon?

Don't buy them.

They have very low star ratings I researched my wearable for four months before I finally bought it because I wanted to make sure it wasn't what Megan was talking about

I didn't realize that there were because that's not something I would do I didn't realize there were that many Yes,

there's like $35 ones like

like I guarantee what does a $35 smartwatch do?

It's

a dumb watch.

Tells the time.

It's a dumb watch, yeah.

It's like.

It's a clock.

Yeah.

It looks like you just bought a watch.

Sir, I don't mean to call into question your intelligence, but I think you just bought a... Wait a minute.

This just says Seiko on it.

Yeah, I think it's a watch.

Yeah.

Now that we've talking about it, all of your phones, folks, will be bringing up smart watches onto your advertisements on Instagram, Facebook.

You're welcome.

We apologize.

Yeah.

And we apologize for that.

All right, we have news coming up in just a little bit.

Start thinking about who you had a crush on

when you were a kid.

Who was

your kid crush?

Who did you have a crush on when you were a kid?

Bobby Sherman has passed away at the age of 81.

He was even hot before David Cassidy.

Oh

my

goodness.

I

know.

I also want to bring up a teens heartthrob.

Teen Crush, who is still very crushable in today's day and age.

I love it.

He performed at Summerfest.

All right.

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and just going to let this play for a really long time.

Hey,

hey, hey.

Easy go.

Come on, baby, everybody.

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What are you controlling?

I'm controlling my laughter because if you're listening to this on the podcast, you probably didn't hear what we're talking about.

Jade was singing and dancing to a Bobby Sherman.

What song was that?

Easy Come, Easy Go.

Boy, she's all, she's flush, she's flush

with teen boy love.

Absolutely.

Bobby Sherman has passed away at the age of 81.

So we were talking about who he had a crush on when you were a kid.

So he really became big in like the mid to late sixties and early seventies.

And I think I became aware of him around when I was like nine or 10.

And Tiger Beat was a big magazine back then.

Yeah.

With all the photos of your pop stars and

Bobby Sherman was on my wall, baby.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, I grew up in the, that, when my brain came online was the early eighties and that was still around.

You'd still see like, you know, there were, I think Tiger B was still around back then too.

Oh yeah.

And you know, I have a sister and she had, she had her boy crushes and.

Do you remember who they weren't?

Well, the one.

But what I remember the most, I don't know if honestly, I don't want to speak on behalf of her because she'll yell at me.

Just kidding.

She loved George Michael.