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He is a trooper, man.
Pat Crichtlow, just back in the country yesterday.
Dude, I'd take him day off if I had traveled to like Chicago.
Dude, text me last night, get back from Europe.
I'm like, I'm back.
Let's do this tomorrow.
I'm like,
what?
And then he did his morning show.
And Pat Crichtlow is going to join us.
After 9.30, we're going to bring him up to date on some things he might have missed.
Oh, yeah.
Just a couple of things.
Derek Van Orden essentially saying,
We don't need spring elections.
No.
What do we need those for?
We don't get enough turnout on the Republican side.
Let's just end it.
Enjoy the weather.
Don't worry about voting people.
Yeah, please.
Just enjoy spring.
So we'll talk to Pat Crichtlow after the 9 30 news and hour number two.
Missy Hughes will be here.
She is the secretary at the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation.
And we're going to talk about tariffs.
Yes, she just did a it was a nine day.
uh, economic trip to Europe with governor Evers, they wrote an op-ed piece as well on these topics of tariffs and how they affect Wisconsin businesses, especially small businesses
here,
which as we know, it's the
backbone of America.
That's right.
You search, you, they certainly are.
Uh, and then of course the last half an hour of the show, we try and lighten things up a little bit.
So Beth Heidorn from the resin, a Racine zoo is going to stop in.
They have a new arrival.
Ooh.
Yes, a little stripy one.
And I think that there's a naming contest.
So we're going to talk about the Racine Zoo's new arrival and all the things you can do this summer at the great.
It's a really sweet little zoo.
It's a wonderful.
It is.
It's a great way to spend like, you know, you can do a half a day.
If you can do a full day there, but it's not one of those zoos where you're walking like, oh my gosh, where do I start?
Yeah, very.
It's compact.
Exactly.
Yeah, it's really cute.
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We have some breaking news as we are coming on the air this morning and when I was driving and listening to you and Pat and there was, you were talking or it was Dan Schaffer, somebody talking about, hey, we have a lull in the elections.
Yeah,
didn't, you know, who doesn't want a little time off from having an election almost every single season.
That
was a
nice
morning.
Oh my God.
Because the news as we come on the air this morning from Allison Durand, Molly Beck and the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the headline reads, liberal Chris Taylor will challenge conservatives of Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Rebecca Bradley in 2026.
The 57-year-old former Democratic state lawmaker announced her plans that she will run for the high court today.
She says that over her 30-year legal career as an attorney, a lawmaker, and a judge, she has worked to make sure, quote, the law is used to protect Wisconsinites, their rights, and their freedoms, unquote.
Wait.
He said that?
Or
she?
She said that.
Chris Taylor is a woman.
Oh, I'm sorry.
My apologies.
I read Chris.
It was C-H-R-I-S.
I was doing so much stuff.
My assumptions?
We're incorrect.
I'm terrible.
Rebecca Bradley, 53, has announced she will be seeking another 10-year term on the court this after the April election, of course, where Dane County Judge Susan Crawford, handily, handily, handily.
Just like, just like Justice Protossewitz did as well.
One over Brad Schimmel.
What a shame.
And then gave liberal control of the Wisconsin Supreme Court until at least 2028.
Liberal candidates have won four of the last five Supreme Court elections, each of those by double digits.
And as Tony put on the live stream, isn't everyone liberal compared to Judge Bradley?
Because Judge Bradley, if you, I'll try to find and put in the show notes, but if you can just find out what she had to say the night of.
of the election in April.
Oh, she
was so gracious.
It was
gracious.
It was
so professional.
It definitely
didn't sound like a spoiled child who hasn't gotten their toy yet.
And I sat there with my mouth that gave going, are you serious?
Honestly, if you haven't, like it sounded like Daniel Kelly's concession speech.
Non-concession speech.
Yeah, we are all in danger of justice protests.
I said this to you before the show, Jane.
Yes, we are living in very divided times, and there seems to be a large group of people who hook onto this very vitriolic, very...
The nastier the better.
The nastier the better.
Just say a bunch of mean words, and oh my gosh, they're lining up to give you money.
But... In the last two Wisconsin Supreme Court elections, both candidates going against...
I mean, Daniel Kelly was, I think, more full-throated in his conservatism, but Brad Shimmel is a conservative.
Both elections were decided by at least a double-digit win margin, which says to me that in the sense of these types of elections, Wisconsinites can't do things differently.
You cannot.
We said this as well.
You can't convince me that in a 10 to 11 point victory between Justice Proto-Sawits and Justice Crawford or Justice Elect, I should say Crawford.
that some Republicans weren't voting for them, because it was so, it was a landslide
for them.
It was decided quickly, the announcements came in before the half hour mark on both.
So to me, I think if Justice Bradley wants to make headway with the people of Wisconsin, I mean, she'll probably get money
from outside
sources.
But if she wants to make headway with Wisconsinites, I think she needs to dial back that rhetoric just a little bit.
She can be conservative, be law and order, do all the things they do, but I don't think
That version of her from that night is going to play well with the people.
That's an interesting take.
Yeah, it is because I look at someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Yeah.
Who's.
Pretty popular, at least in her district, because they just convinced her not to run for governor in Georgia.
I think she would be because they think they think she would get crushed.
So maybe you maybe you have a point.
It's like we'll accept that kind of behavior to a certain level.
And after that, it's like, yeah, we need someone who's a little bit not quite so.
That is
a technical term.
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Taylor is 57, a former Democratic state lawmaker, and she has had a 30-year legal career.
And
that's going to be less than a year away
now.
Oh, I would bet that the ads, well, of course, again, it depends upon how quickly do you want to start spending the money that people are sending you?
Because Susan Crawford did not start really spending commercial money until I would say
it seemed like three
weeks.
I mean, it was, it was to the point where we were talking about like, if she wants to win, she needs to be places.
And, and I mean, whomever was in her campaign kudos because they did it right because she came out big.
She was on our show.
And pretty much after she was on our show and on other civic media shows and doing other interviews, the bombardment started to happen.
I saw
all the
more.
yard signs.
I saw tons of ads.
Some would say too many, but yeah, it was, I think that's something to be said about that versus what Brad Schimmel did, which even though he was running for 18 months,
he really didn't, he
pretty much announced after justice pros say what's one, that he was going to be running for the office.
And he ran around Wisconsin to this thing, but I don't,
Didn't help him, I guess.
It didn't because it lost.
But yeah, it'll be interesting to see when this starts ramping up and who gets out there first.
First.
Well, the election will be next April.
Grand.
I know.
I just rip.
I'm sorry, folks, but this is what we're in for.
This is what happens in Wisconsin.
Also announcing this morning from the Wisconsin Examiner, Eric Dunn, the headline says in Wisconsin's first congressional district.
Who?
Iron Stash, Randy Bryce, decides to seek a rematch in 2026.
Well, it's a rematch in as much as Heath.
Okay.
All right.
All right, Democrats.
Today he will seek the nomination to run against Republican incumbent Brian Stile in 2026.
Bryce says he expects the top issues to be preserving social security.
resisting Donald Trump's tariffs and attacks on immigrants and pushing back against the general climate of fear under Republicans.
His first campaign did not go so well.
No, it didn't because he ran on them on the platform.
I want to beat Paul Ryan.
And then when Paul Ryan said, I'm not running, his campaign went out because everyone wanted that was the thing is that's the biggest rule.
Don't run to beat someone.
run to win.
And he was running to beat Paul Ryan.
And when Paul Ryan said, I'm not, I'm not going to get reelection.
I'm taken off.
He is campaign deflated.
I was at his quote unquote victory party that night.
It was Dower.
Oh, I Randy Bryce.
Yes.
Oh, I bet.
And I just don't think he is.
And also just, it's a rematch sort of, but the big thing was like, he wasn't running.
He was running against Brian style, but the, the mode wasn't Brian style.
He just happened to be the guy.
And so I just, Democrats, Democrats and liberals, you could do better than this in my opinion.
Well, and weren't there some things about his past and child support and those things that came up that were problematic for Randy Bryce?
I might be speaking out of turn.
We'll double check on that.
But I just remember,
He had a lot of support.
I think he was, you know, again, the iron worker, the union guy, all that kind of stuff.
But again, he lost pretty handily to Brian style.
He
did.
And he, I mean, he got nationwide recognition.
He was, I remember when Sarah Silverman had a TV show on Hulu, he was on the show.
Like he was getting nationwide because he's.
Hard working the iron stash union like you can't deny his bona fides when it comes to a blue collar Wisconsin life and I'm not denying that and I'm not saying he's not a good guy I'm just saying he wasn't the right candidate at the time because they pushed him in the wrong way I think that if he wants to run again fine, but He has to bring it two times harder now.
He had I mean and Brian style is not stupid.
No, he's a good campaign He's been in that position for a while for a reason
And he learned well from Paul Ryan.
Yes.
The first CD here in Wisconsin has, for some reason, even though it's, it's purplish blue has always gone red for that, for that seat or not always, but recently for a long time, I guess now, but it's just that notion of you really want to win that.
I'm sorry.
I
don't, I don't think he's and prove me wrong.
Well, and maybe someone else will step up, you know, we're still a ways away from this.
Yeah, this is like a year and a half away.
We got time on this.
Tony, on the live stream, we were talking about when do you start spending money as a candidate?
You don't start spending until you can keep it going through election day, which makes sense.
And Cassandra, also, it's almost like the way they only campaign for a month in the UK is a good idea.
Cassandra, I'm telling you my husband talks about that all the time.
My husband is English.
He does not understand why we have campaign season for seven and a half months or longer.
None of
us
understand
it.
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This is not necessarily good news, especially if you wanted to buy a home.
From NBC News, mortgage rates cross back over 7% after U.S.
credit downgrade.
This happened on Friday.
Moody's downgraded our credit rating.
America's credit
rating.
My credit rating is actually pretty good.
So America if you need a loan.
But yeah, Modi's downgraded America's credit rating and now mortgage rates are back up over 7%.
This from NBC News home builders also seeing a steep drop in demand last month with sentiment among that group at the lowest since the end of 2023.
The average rate on the popular 30-year fixed loan is 7.04%.
The highest since April 11th.
Matthew Graham is COO at Mortgage News Daily.
He says the average mortgage lender had to account not only for the market movement in Friday's closing minutes, but also to the additional weakness seen this morning.
That makes for a fairly big jump day over day.
does little to change the bigger picture.
April surge and mortgage rates had a direct effect on the housing market, causing it to pull back right in the heart of the usually busy spring season.
This is a big time when a lot of folks trying to sell their houses.
Summertime's coming up.
You want to get into the new house and get set up before school starts and fall.
It's tough.
It's tough if you're trying to buy a
house.
It wasn't easy before it wasn't easy when they were the when we bought our house.
It was always the mortgage rate We well, I'll tell you what ours is right now.
It's it's it's 5.3 and that's after we paid to have it lowered by 0.03% I didn't know you could do that and to me that also just tells me that interest rates are a sham They're just whatever if I can buy a portion of it down then to me that's but
mortgage rates or interest rates being five were even seen by some.
And by us, like, oh, that's a lot.
That's a lot.
That's a lot of money.
Not to mention on top of that, that we were in such a battleground of.
real estate where it's competition.
Do you want to buy a house?
Cool.
Do you have 50 grand in cash on you as well to outbid the five other people who are trying?
Doesn't everyone just have 50 grand in cash laying around?
You know, I mean, I'll find it somewhere.
I'll sell a kidney or two or maybe it's, it was never easy.
It was, it hasn't been easy for years and this just makes it worse.
Not to mention the bigger picture is that we have lost our perfect credit, credit, credit rating.
And do not tell me it's because of Joe Biden stock market.
No, this is not because of the former president This is because of the less than five month.
No, yeah tomorrow five month mess.
We are in No Four month four month my I'm just waiting for I'm waiting to be like well, this is because of Joe Biden did x y and z. No, it's not well
Former president Biden, you know now we as he has stage nine cancer There is no stage nine by the way Donald Trump said that yesterday We know that former president Biden has has cancer
and aggressive
and aggressive form of prostate cancer and Current president Trump said yesterday.
Yeah, he's got stage nine.
There is no stage nine Which is good.
That's great
Stage four is still not
good.
Well, and what this is gonna do too, unfortunately, we've already had, we don't have enough housing for people who want to buy them.
And this is gonna make it even more difficult for home builders too.
And then we have tariffs against Canada and we get a lot of lumber from Canada.
So it just seems like this is not a good cycle.
if you're trying to get into the housing market.
It almost seems, Jane, as if it's a system that's not built for the middle and working class to hook onto that American dream and do exactly what we've been told for decades, which is have a family, buy a house, have kids.
It's like it's almost being rigged against us.
It's good if you're a venture
capital group, though.
You can
buy
lots of houses.
I'll buy ten of them.
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Just got back last night at a show this morning.
Joining us right now.
He is a trooper and the king of Yacht Rock.
Pat Crichtlow is here.
Good morning.
Welcome home.
How are you?
Oh,
thank you.
It's nice to be home.
But what a wonderful trip to Portugal where some friends got married.
One of the the the groom.
I've known the bride a lot longer from my TV days.
Yep.
But she married this wonderful man who who the one
flaw that she finds in him, I would disagree it's a flaw, is he is as crazy for yacht rock as anybody you would ever want to meet.
So
I already
knew this was the right
guy for her.
That's not a flaw.
That's not a boy.
There could be there are many, many worse flaws than that.
Oh, oh, don't I know it.
But anyway, no, wonderful trip.
Great to be back.
And I want to really thank Greg again for all the work to help with fill ins, keep the train running.
And, you know, putting up with
with a host who maybe showed this morning why you wouldn't necessarily do a show a day after a transatlantic flight.
But I figure, I liken it to those shows where the host purposefully has a certain number of alcoholic drinks only to prove why you shouldn't drink and drive.
Yes.
Maybe
jet lag has that same kind of experience on a person.
I'm just waiting for Pat to be like, so there I was.
Yeah, he's gonna.
10 o'clock this
morning, 10 o'clock
six, Pat's going to be in bed.
I did have somebody ask about a three o'clock meeting today and said, nope, I can do 12.
After that, there's no guarantees.
Nappy time for Pat.
That's right.
I was listening on the way in as I always do, Pat.
And you were talking about just some of the experiences you had in Portugal and my husband and I have been there a number of times and we're big fans of that country.
But you went to Nazaré, which if anyone has watched the 100 foot wave,
Oh, that is the place where extreme surfers go.
Wait, is that a TV show or is that just a
thing?
It's a series now on Netflix, I believe.
Okay, all right.
But if you search, if you just search Google for 100 foot wave, they have extreme surfers come in like October, November and December into this tiny little fishing village that was really not prepared for what it has become.
No, it's such a tiny village with extremely narrow cobblestone streets.
And yes, talking to one of the locals about, you know, what a beautiful place this is, beautiful beach, beautiful little town.
And they said, Yeah, we've always been here, the waves, they've always been here.
Somebody just figured it out.
Like, they have these big waves here.
And they are still trying to come to grips with all of these people who are showing up.
Yeah.
It's, it's, uh, you, I mean, I cut, you kind of feel for him on the one hand because again, like you said, that fishing village has been there forever.
The waves have been there forever, but it was only within the last 15, 20 years that it's really landed on a lot of, again, these super extreme surf surfers have found incredible conditions and it's very, very dangerous.
If you're not a professional, don't even think about it.
No,
and it is beautiful.
We they're they're in that slow time of the season
where the waves
aren't 100 feet tall, right?
Still very impressive, still very terrifying actually come to think about it.
But there is just so much to love about that country.
And, you know, Portugal was not necessarily on our list.
I mean, Europe overall was.
But now Portugal specifically haven't been we went to like half a dozen places throughout the country.
And if if for folks listening, if you get a chance, go.
Just go.
Travel is just, it's, I just think it's good for you.
I just think it's good for you.
Even if just, even if all you do is cross state lines, I think meeting different people, eating different foods, getting different perspectives.
I think it's really good
for us.
Jim and Brookfield put this on our text line and I didn't have time for it during the show where he said, good morning, Pat.
Glad to have you back on the air.
As Mark Twain said, travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness.
Yes.
And he said, driving overseas on a road using the metric system confirms Twain's quote, Jim from Brookfield.
Yeah.
Again,
we talked about that this morning about why are we still living out this Nate Barghetti,
you know, skid
from SNL
and still
using feet and ounces and pounds when there was a better system all along, but.
I could
go on and on.
That's a side note.
Feels like I
did this morning, yes.
That's a side note.
Speaking of that, Nate Bargatze, SNL hit.
I think we should put that in the show notes, just because it is so funny.
It's perfect.
It is.
If you need to just take a breath, like we do with Audio Sorbet or at some point during the day, check out that clip from Saturday Night Live.
Nate Bargatze, as George Washington, it is.
It's just priceless.
People, I mean, it's one of their biggest best sketches of recent years.
It's got 22 million views.
Yeah, it's great.
And they know about it over there.
They cited it
at one point where we were
having some kind of discussion.
They said, oh yeah, why are you still living like that skit that that Nate Park has?
We just laughed like, oh, they've heard about it over here.
Of course.
We don't have muskets anymore.
We have machine guns now.
Thank you very
much.
Oh yeah, that's really funny.
Well, anyway, welcome back.
Glad to have you back.
We thought we would
update you on a couple of things that were happening while you were away, just to get you kind of back up to speed.
Of course, Republicans trying to pass Donald Trump's big, beautiful bill.
It's the biggest bill.
It's the most beautiful bill ever of bills among the bills that we've had.
Donald Trump was on
Capitol Hill this morning trying to strong arm.
I mean, I'm sorry, convince some Republicans to vote in favor of this.
Here's what the president of the United States said this morning.
Quote, we're going to make a couple of tweaks.
I mean, we don't want to benefit Democrat governors.
Although I would do that if it made it better, but they don't know what they're doing.
We want to help all the states, but we have governors that are from the Democrat Party who have done a horrible job.
We want to benefit Republicans.
They are the ones that are going to make America great again, unquote.
So if you're in a Democratic state, and even if you voted for him,
You're out of luck, I guess.
We
have a
Democratic governor and a
Republican passport.
We're leaving again.
Get the passports ready.
Yikes.
Have we ever had a president before who's come out and said, I'm only going to help the states that have Republicans?
Yes, we
did actually have somebody like that once.
It was during the pandemic.
It was a guy named Donald Trump who said he only wanted to help the states, you know, the states with blue governors and blue states didn't need help with the pandemic.
Yeah, we had that guy once and we got rid of him and somebody
Let him back in.
I mean, again, the thing with the Roche motel is you got to renew it from time to time.
Otherwise, it doesn't work so much.
And somebody, somebody dropped the ball and the Roches are back in the house.
And this is just a thing that I just don't understand.
When did it become the Democrat, those Democrat governors?
Oh, this has been that's been in the works for a while.
When is what?
Why is Democrat supposed to be like a, a.
A cut.
It's an insult.
Yeah, why is it an insult by calling like, like the Democrat judges it?
Okay, whatever.
Well,
for the, for the same reason that Trump talked about President Biden's stage nine cancer, because they can't, they know it needles.
We're going to needle them by calling them, calling them the Democrat party and stage nine and look how, how much they get upset about it.
We get upset about it because
We don't like when people are wrong or when people lie or when people are mean.
And if that gets onto your skin, you know, or no, if you like watching that get under other people's skin, what does that say about you that this is what you're rooting for?
You're rooting against some of your fellow Americans just so that you can what say your team one.
Let me make this point about rooting for a team.
There are people who go, you've seen them, Jane.
They get so wound up when the Packers lose.
So wound up.
I
mean,
like, like almost violent when the team loses.
And you want to say to them, and I have said to some friends, guys, they don't care.
They're millionaire athletes.
They don't care.
And the same goes for these ones in Washington.
They don't care that you're rooting for them or not root.
They're
You know, they love having you as a fan because it keeps them famous and in power.
They don't care.
Stop investing so much about winning on behalf of a team, a team that does not know you.
And
isn't looking out for you either
and isn't looking out for you Hans Hans mentioned that this morning when you had him on the show He's saying there's so many people out there who are the blue collar working class of America who put themselves out quote him in the same bucket as those millionaires and billionaires and they think that if they win I'm gonna win and that's not true It's never been true when people are trying to snake the system
cut billions if not trillions in programs that usually help the people not military spending or taxing the rich that money usually goes right back to the rich it doesn't it's not a hey everybody here's a wonderful tax break for everyone no it's a my rich friends who got me here are going to get even richer now that's how it works it's never about us it's about them
what it
We've heard about trickle-down since the 80s.
Trickle-down economics.
We're still waiting for the great benefits from the trickle-down economy, which, again, I'm still personally waiting for.
Maybe I'm just bad with money.
Well, but, but Hans made a good point in an earlier visit with him about how part of the reason, now in this case, it's farmers.
And again, I want to warn people don't paint farmers with a broad brush.
They didn't all vote for Trump.
But you know, many farmers who did said, well, yeah, there was this trade war with China the last time he was in office, but he sent us these checks.
And so they feel like, oh, I made money off of Trump when, when actually they lost money.
Actually, we lost a lot more in trade than those subsidy checks that Trump sent out.
And they're feeling this time, Trump and the Republicans is, once again, if we can figure out what is the least amount of tax cut possible to give to the middle class, to farmers, to others, to make them think that this big, beautiful bill is a good idea, that it works for them.
If they can come up with just enough, people will go, well, I got my tax cut check, so I'm okay.
completely forgetting that two years, three years, five years down the line, your taxes actually went up.
And that's how they wrote the bill.
They wrote just enough of a cut
in the first
year or two to fool you.
And
don't let that happen again.
That's so important, Pat, because I think most of us have forgotten about that.
The tax cuts that he instituted in 2017, the big tax cuts for the ultra wealthy were made permanent.
the tax cuts for the rest of us were temporary and only lasted for two years.
So if you have paid when you've done your income taxes, because we have to, we've paid in the last couple of years where we had never done that for many years, you can thank Donald Trump or the Republican Party for that.
But they timed out in a way that they go, oh, you
see, that
was Joe Biden's fault.
No, it's how the bill was written originally.
Don't don't let them get away with it again.
It's always Joe Biden's fault.
No matter what it is, it's always is the stock market.
Joe Biden's fault.
Well, we started calling him while you were gone.
We started calling them the the dog.
He ate my homework administration because they got excuses for everything as far as how nothing is ever their fault.
Or it's the the five year old.
He did it.
Yeah, he did it.
I like that
one.
I love that.
It's like, well, why did why is the FAA shambles?
It's people just as fault.
It's his fault.
He rides a bicycle apparently.
Yeah.
He's married to a man.
It's his fault.
Weird.
And people have pointed out, you know, Sean Duffy and others voted against this stuff in 2019.
But you got to say it more than once, otherwise people will forget because they're going to blame it on Biden a hundred times, you know.
Don't take care of the ball.
Exactly.
That's one of the reasons why we're here to remind you of those little tidbits that some people would really rather that we forget.
Speaking of tidbits, we have a tidbit from Wisconsin Senior Senator Ron Johnson about Medicaid.
He's got concerns.
He has thoughts.
We'll share those on the other side.
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We are joined by the host of Mornings with Pat Critello.
Pat Critello is here, just talking about some of the things that you might have missed, Pat, while you were overseas, vacationing, well- That's what missed in quotes first, though, okay?
Things I might have missed.
Missed, exactly.
Yeah, missed.
Wisconsin Senior Senator Ron Johnson.
Oh, didn't miss.
Anyway,
talking about the big, beautiful bill that President Trump wants to pass.
But of course, there's cuts to one big program, even though I'm pretty sure they were told we will never touch Medicaid.
We will never touch Medicare.
We'll never touch Social Security.
Well, maybe this time.
Calvin, let's play that clip from Wisconsin Senior Senator, please.
If you really look at it, look at the numbers, and I look at the numbers, we will actually increase the deficit over the next 10 years going from right now 37 trillion dollars in debt.
CBO says we'll be at 59.
My guess would probably increase that by about four trillion dollars with the big new deal.
The big beautiful deal.
62 to 63 trillion dollars.
Again, you have to be honest.
And by the way, I know I know Buck at the end of the show.
Or I think you might ask me this last time, what are you going to cut?
It's impossible to say, you know, Medicaid absolutely have to go after that.
But what you need is a process.
Medicaid absolutely got to go after that.
And I will say this, Ron Johnson is the only one who is actually admitting that this is going to tack on trillions to the deficit because it is.
Right.
And.
he is concerned concerned again in quotes about the deficit and the national debt and yet he didn't appear to be that concerned in 2017.
No.
When when he was when it was made clear that that tax plan would add at least two trillion dollars to the national debt and they said oh that's okay it'll pay for themselves because you know trickle down.
Yeah.
Always pays for itself.
Yeah.
It did not.
Then there was concern about the the the debt and the deficit when
Joe Biden was in office and now a little less so again because we keep hearing oh it's it's going to pay for itself except a few people like Ron Johnson.
We're saying, well, I might actually be against this if it raises the national debt too much.
Don't believe it.
All he's doing is what he did in 2017, which is look for concessions like the last time around when Ron Johnson was a holdout until he got a particular type of tax break for something called past
through
corporations that benefited him personally and benefited some of his billionaire campaign donors.
So if he's setting the stage for that,
that's fully in character with what he's been doing.
But if I can, one other note on this national debt being $36 billion, it'll go to $59 trillion, and people say, well, that's just unsustainable.
The reason it hasn't been unsustainable.
is because if there's one thing the rest of the global economy wants, it's American dollars and American treasuries and American bonds.
They want in on the action of a stable, secure, democratic, with a small D economy.
But for what they're doing to get rid of our, you know, to trash our credit rating, as you were talking about earlier, and this trade war and everything else, if all of that tarnishes
faith in the U.S.
economy, then that deficit and that national debt, then it will really matter because we're no longer the one safe place where the rest of the world knows they can put their money in troubled times.
Well, and that's one of the reasons why Trump reversed himself.
When the bonds, when the bond market started having big, big twitches, all of a sudden, that's when he backed off on the tariffs.
That was like, oh, well, and he said, people are getting yippy.
I think he said, yeah, somebody's got the yips.
Okay.
Well, and then they said, and then when he backed off and the market recovered, everyone who supported him came on and said, see, you don't understand.
He's playing 40
chess.
It's the art of the deal, man.
But something that Ron Johnson made very clear in his, in the words he used, because if you want to look at programs like we've said before, look at wasteful spending, look at consolidations, look at ways we can take down costs.
Great.
Do studies talk to experts hold hearings do the process But he said we're going to you have to go after it and it's in the in the sense of Medicaid not with the study Medicaid We have to look at reductions.
We have to look at problems.
It's go after it to me That seems like they're just going in with Elon's chainsaw to say you're not getting this money anymore folks Sorry if you like Medicaid, but you're not getting it
Calvin do we have time to play that clip from Rick Scott the former governor of Florida?
Let's play this clip from Rick Scott, also chiming in on Medicaid.
Take
a
listen.
and people with chronic illness.
I remember when my brother couldn't get health care, I grew up in public housing.
Today that job might not get it because of what these states are doing.
They get more money to take care of able-bodied adults.
That's enough, Calvin.
I think it's important that people understand that not every employer offers health care.
They just don't.
They don't.
So don't tell me that you don't want a job.
You don't have health care because you don't want a job.
That doesn't make any sense.
That is the biggest
mistake we've made for generations now is linking health care access, affordable health care access
to
employment.
It was started during World War II at a time of wage controls and labor shortages.
It was the one benefit that was allowed and we have allowed that to continue to defining whether you get health care coverage or not, along with all the other tropes that he and Derek Van Orden love to talk about how poor they were growing up till they
push the ladder away and turn their back on the people, you know, from where they came from.
And speaking of Medicare fraud, by the way, Rick Scott, when he handled a company in Florida, I think I find $1.7 billion for Medicare fraud.
But let's not talk about that.
No, quite low.
Join him.
He'll be well rested tomorrow morning, starting at six a.m.
or not.
Thanks a lot.
That
really appreciate it.
News coming
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next.
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After the 1030 news, we're to lighten things up.
Beth Hydorn from the Racine Zoo is going to be joining us to talk about that wonderful facility and they also have a new resident.
That I believe they're gonna have a naming contest for so we'll talk about that and we'll end the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing today It is the hold the onions edition But right now though we're to talk about more serious subjects.
Missy Hughes is the secretary for the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation.
Good morning.
Missy.
Thank you so much for joining us We cannot hear you there we are
Okay, do you have me now?
We have you now.
Yes.
Okay.
Great.
Great.
And I'm sorry I'm not contributing to lightening things up, but hopefully we'll have a good
time
We saved that for the last half hour of the show, Missy, no problem.
So it's my understanding that you and the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation, you traveled around the state recently talking to folks about tariffs and what this is going to do to them, and especially the Wisconsin small businesses.
So can you share a little bit, Missy, what you heard as you were traveling around Wisconsin?
Well, I'm hearing from all of Wisconsin's businesses, whether small or large, real concern over the tariffs and the impact that not only the tariffs will directly have on their businesses with increased costs, but also the potential impact on the economy in general and causing a slowdown in the economy that will impact all of our businesses.
I am curious if anyone you have heard from have said
Have repeated Donald Trump who said that companies pay tariffs China will pay the tariffs and then until what?
Friday when he essentially said yeah Walmart should eat the tariffs because you know rather than pass the cost on to the consumers So for me that was the clarification that Americans are the ones who take the hit for tariffs.
Do people understand that when you're talking to them?
Well, certainly the businesses are really the first line of understanding that so let me give you an example We have a coffee company Located here in my town Wunderstate coffee that imports coffee from all around the world and when the tariffs hit Wunderstate had containers of coffee on the you know on the ocean
And in order to bring those containers of coffee on shore and bring them to Wisconsin and process them here, they had to pay the tariffs.
And that's not the country of Ethiopia or Columbia paying those tariffs.
It's Wonder State.
And they're trying to understand, how does this impact our business?
Do we have to increase our cost to the consumers?
Do we not hire the people we were thinking about hiring?
Because we're in the middle of they're growing like crazy, but they're really concerned.
maybe we can't hire, maybe we have to charge more for our coffee in our shops or to our customers.
Well, and it is this uncertainty, and we've talked about this a lot.
This causes problems for businesses large and small, as you've talked about, if you want to expand, if you want to hire.
The deals that we have right now are only temporary so the deal that we have with China is only for 90 days So how do you now I get to plan for 90 days?
And then I have to wait and see what Donald Trump does next and then we could have to you know We don't know what's going to happen.
That's got to make people crazy
Well think about think about our small Main Street businesses.
I've talked to restaurants that
are already looking at increased costs.
They're hearing from their distributor from Cisco.
We're going to have increased costs for your plastic wear, for your paper wear.
Those costs are happening right away.
We have small retailers who only keep a few weeks worth of inventory.
That's all they can afford to keep in their shops.
And they're looking at July and August.
They're busiest times of the year and saying, I'm going to have to pay more for that inventory when it comes across.
in a few weeks, how am I going to afford that?
How do I make it through the summer?
All of our Wisconsin businesses that operate on our main streets, they're headed into the busiest season of the year.
And with this uncertainty, they don't know what's going to happen.
We had the owner of Moore Bakery on, I believe it was last week, and she was talking to this thing right here, is that she has a very limited amount of supplies.
And she actually cuts deals with her customers to say, if you order ahead of time, and then I know exactly what I want,
I'll give you a discount.
If you don't, I have to charge you more because I don't know what you want.
And therefore I have to plan for the unknown.
And it's that sort of uncertainty that businesses do not like and enjoy.
And I have to imagine with your travels around the state that it's just more of it's like, what are we going to do?
I mean, I'm sure there are people who are frustrated, but it's just like, we just need some help.
We just need some advice and guidance.
And I feel like WEDC is there to help and guide, but from
A nationwide level, there's not a lot of guys just roll with the punches.
And how cool is it that this bakery is trying to think about how can I manage around this uncertainty?
How can I
be
creative and innovative?
You know, we saw our businesses do that during the pandemic.
They were incredibly innovative with curbside pickup
and think
about all the crazy things that our businesses did, but they're tired.
And having to do this kind of work day in, day out.
And if you think about a bakery,
I don't know about you, but I consider a bakery kind of a luxury moment, right?
And, and the customers are going to start thinking, well, maybe we won't have those extra muffins at our breakfast or maybe, you know, I won't stop and pick that up.
And all those little, um, somebody described it to me the other day as death by a thousand ducks nipping at you.
Yes.
And, you know, it's just it's incredibly hard for these businesses.
They're in a tough situation as it is.
They're they're rolling up their sleeves, they're persevering day in and day out.
But the ongoing uncertainty and, you know, planning for 90 days out, whether there's a deal or not a deal is just incredibly hard.
I'm a small business owner as well.
And one of the things that we talked about when we spoke to Will Sue, who's a ginseng farmer here in Wisconsin, is that what people don't realize is that small businesses from the beginning of the 20s, we got hit with the pandemic, well, actually before that, the first tariff war and then the pandemic.
And now this, and it just seems like we're always trying to
we're trying to take off off that mountain to be better and better and there's always something holding us back and it's it's no one wants a handout but we just want some help and what does the WEDC do to educate and find resources for those who are trying to just you know maybe it's finding grants or whatever what does the WEDC do in that in that vein?
Well, you know, we really found that during the pandemic we can be a trusted source of information for businesses.
And that is our goal first and foremost right now to have the information for businesses to understand what's the current state of affairs and how can we help make sure that you know what is truly happening right now and how to find your way through the kind of incredible amount of misinformation and true information that's happening.
So that's what we try and do first and foremost.
But I love that you brought up will because another thing we do is really help businesses explore other markets.
So export markets.
So I was actually just in China at the end of March talking about Will's incredible ginseng and how much China wants that ginseng that that's his primary market for American ginseng and especially Wisconsin ginseng.
And so helping our companies reach different markets and think about
How do I grow?
How do I build that resiliency is something that's really important to WEDC.
But the ginseng market is something that you really see caught in the middle of this tier of war and this ongoing trade war.
And it's crazy because it's such an opportunity for us to be able to export ginseng to China and have a great market there.
And we want to preserve that.
And for folks who don't realize, and maybe you missed our conversation with Will Sue.
Wisconsin is one of the main exporters of ginseng.
That is a big business here in Wisconsin.
And it is the most desired and most of the highest quality ginseng in the world.
And so we want to make sure that it's able to be shared throughout the world.
And it's really labor intensive too.
It is.
It's good heavens.
They sing to those plants at night before they tuck them in.
Missy Hughes is here.
She's the secretary of the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation.
And they have been traveling around the state talking to big businesses, small businesses about the state of affairs.
and the uncertainty surrounding the tariffs.
Missy, during the pandemic, Governor Evers focused a lot on Main Street and keeping Main Street businesses alive.
For people who may not realize what part of the economy do small businesses play in Wisconsin's overall economy?
How important is small business?
Well people will often say that small businesses are the backbone of the economy and I almost feel like it sounds trite They are incredibly important not only for the communities where those small businesses are located But we all want to live in business in communities that are thriving and that attracts big businesses So without those small communities without thriving mean streets people don't want to live here They don't want to come and live in Wisconsin.
So not only do they
They provide important tax revenue on a day-to-day basis, but they make the quality of life that we experience here in Wisconsin so valuable for the rest of the economy because they create this place where we all want to live.
I'm often reminded about how important small businesses are for teaching people about business, for kids who get to work in those small businesses.
I just had a conversation with Blue Dog Cycle here in Verroqua and they're talking about how the kids who come in and learn to work on their bikes, many of them have become mechanical engineers and other types of engineers
because they love
working with their hands.
And they actually want to have like an alumni meeting of Blue Dog Cycle to be able
to recognize how important it is that the kids who worked there have gone on to do great things with their life.
And kids learn the importance of family businesses, of showing up, of working hard, of representing the business really well.
So small businesses have this impact not only in tax revenue, but in the ongoing ripple effect that they have throughout the Wisconsin economy.
We hear so much about Wisconsin population, and Wisconsin's population is not growing.
Like we would like to see it grow and we need more people to move here.
What would help the environment in Wisconsin to get more small businesses to relocate to Wisconsin, do you think?
Well, we really see that Wisconsin is actually trending positively.
We have an increase in the number of people moving to Wisconsin.
Unlike our neighbors in the Midwest, lots of states in the Midwest are losing people.
We're gaining people.
And we need to recognize that that's because we have these really vibrant communities, because we have great education systems and we need to keep investing in those systems in our housing.
And I think that's what's really going to keep people here.
If you can't keep people, you can't
and attract people.
And so we have to see it that way, that how do we support our communities and how do we make sure that this is someplace where people want to live?
It's affordable housing.
It's good schools.
It's good roads.
It's all of the things that are basic to Governor Evers platform and the work that he's doing to make sure we're continuing to invest in our state.
That was one of my questions I wanted to ask, too.
I mean, we have to go to a break in a little bit, but we do want to talk about the op-ed piece that you and Governor Evers did put in the Wisconsin State Journal as well, talking about a trip overseas to Europe.
to attract business to Wisconsin and watching a trade or tariff war unfold in real time before your eyes.
So
we're going to continue our conversation with Missy Hughes, the secretary of the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation on the other side.
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We are joined by Missy Hughes, the secretary of the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation.
Yeah, and Missy, we mentioned it before in the previous segment, but you and Governor Evers published or wrote an op-ed, which appeared in the Wisconsin State Journal yesterday, titled, Trade Mission Strengthen Wisconsin's Global Ties and Uncertainty.
And the background is that,
You, when we were first reaching out to you to be on the show, you and Governor Eveners were overseas on a mission, on a trade mission.
You wanted to, the goal is to attract businesses to Wisconsin.
And you would talk to all different kinds of businesses of all different types of what, you know, the businesses that are involved in.
But while this is happening, Trump's tariffs, that announcement happens, and it seems from when reading this article, it's one, it's like you're looking at your phones going,
What is happening right now?
How do we, but also you're, you're talking to these groups about bringing business here.
It reminds me of a movie where like someone said something really offensive in the background.
They're going, well, we got to get going looking at their watches.
We got to get good.
I mean, how did that, first of all, what was that like for you to see that?
And also how was the interactions then after that to say, no, Wisconsin's still great.
Stay, come here.
Talk to us.
We are here for a reason.
And you said that you were the only ones from Wisconsin in at that conference.
Well, so we had the opportunity to take a few Wisconsin companies to Germany to be able to visit a huge advanced manufacturing.
convention.
And while we're there, not only are we trying to create opportunities for the companies that we take, but we're also talking to companies and countries that are interested in investing in the United States.
Remember, the United States is the largest market in the world, and there's such huge opportunity.
But our friends and our partners there, we're looking and saying, what's happening?
I thought we were friends.
It's, you know, it's like for you, Greg, you know, it's like you walk into a party and everybody's looking at you like,
what did I do?
You kind of smell.
Am
I wearing white after Labor Day was happening right now?
But, you know, it's amazing the opportunity that is offered by personal contact.
and by standing there and saying to them, yep, it's a little hectic right now, but Wisconsin is steady as she goes.
It is a great place to land your business.
And if you choose to come to Wisconsin, we will do everything we can to support your success.
And it's amazing how much that kind of personal opportunity and personal connection can really help to soothe some of the uncertainty that people are seeing and really experiencing.
It's really hard when, you know, you
I know that the Germans have been incredible, longtime partners and they're like, we weren't taking advantage of you.
We thought we were working together.
Why are you saying these things and emphasizing to them like, you know, we are here to be your partners, to support your success and what can we do together in the face of all this uncertainty and crazy, how do we work together and how do we move forward together?
So it's a real actual opportunity to
to shake hands, to remind everybody that there are opportunities around business connections and student exchanges and cultural connections that we can make that kind of can live below the political, you know, madness for lack of a better way.
But I would think too that any possible new connections or new interest in moving a business here from overseas
In their minds, that's gotta be, well, we're gonna hang back and wait and see what happens, right?
For sure, Jane.
The response that we were seeing was not only, we don't know what the tariffs are.
We don't know what's going to happen tomorrow.
This is super uncertain.
But also, again, what's going to happen with the overall economy?
Are we headed into a recession?
How can we assure success?
And we are going to wait and see to what happens.
And that's really hard to hear, especially when we had been on an incredible growth trajectory.
Wisconsin's economy is incredibly strong.
We saw really positive things.
happening, why can't we keep that trend going?
Yeah, Wisconsin, and I've said this many times, we've said this many times on the show, Wisconsin fared much better than many other states during the pandemic.
And a lot of that I credit to Governor Evers and his focus on Main Street businesses and helping keep them alive.
For sure, you know, working with Governor Evers during the pandemic, he was constantly asking me, Missy, what's happening on our main streets?
How do we support our small businesses?
How do we make sure they have what they need to keep going?
And, you know, but the same for me and for Governor Evers, we look at business large and small and say, how do we make sure they're successful and really rolled up our sleeves to be as responsive as we could be during a really uncertain time?
In the two minutes we have left, I just want to ask a really quick question.
For those who aren't business owners but are concerned, what can our listeners, viewers, what can they do to help?
Of course, go there and patronize the business.
But is there anything else we can do on this front to at least educate ourselves?
Well, I think really understanding the challenges that businesses are facing and thinking about, how can I support them?
But Greg and Jane, I don't want to gloss over.
shop local work with those communities and those businesses, walk up and down your street and think, how can I, you know, patronize this business?
Let's go and have a dinner there.
Let's order a pizza from our local folks, whatever we can do that if you can, if your listeners can focus their efforts there, it's going to help Wisconsin in many, many different ways.
Missy Hughes is the secretary for the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation.
We will include the article that you and Governor Evers wrote in our show notes.
If you ever want to check out the show notes, just go to our website, civicmedia.us, click on shows, go to Matt and Aaron Eyre, and there will be at least 100 prior shows with all of Greg's show notes and all of the links in those articles.
Missy, thank you so very much for your time.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
Thank you very much.
News is coming up next, and when we return, we're talking all things Racine Zoo.
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We were supposed to be joined by Beth Hadarn from the Racine Zoo, must have had our signals crossed.
Unfortunately, Beth unable to make it this morning, so we are doing what we call punting.
It's
called a punt.
It's like free jazz.
And we're going to do a little audio sorbet that was kind of an unscheduled audio sorbet.
When we take a breath, it's a cleansing for your ears, away from all the news and all the politics and gives us a chance to talk about lighter, salier things.
And I saw this as we were putting the show together this morning.
It is...
National Rescue Dog Day.
Oh, perfect.
I didn't know that.
Oh, I gotta go get a cake now.
Chris Moro, Civic Media Sales Manager is in studio with us.
You have a rescue dog.
I know Calvin, I believe you have a rescue dog.
Lots of folks have rescue dogs.
But it started us thinking about how we talk to our pets.
Do you have a pet voice?
Yeah.
What is the voice you use when you talk to your pet?
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
What is the voice you use when you talk to your pet?
8-5-5-7-5-Civic.
We'd really like to hear it.
Yeah, I mean, you can put it in.
You can text us.
But it's not the same.
Come on.
We want to hear how you talk to your pet.
Yeah, it's we all I think most of us do it I did when when when Berkeley
was still alive
Absolutely,
absolutely.
Yeah, I do too.
Yeah, I've always used my own voice when you talk to the dog because she You want her to know the tone of your voice you want her to hear the words
is
it comes to eat run pee all that stuff So I just use my voice I guess where I freak out or people freak out when they hear us having a conversation is the voice that
She answers in.
She talks
to you.
Of course she does, Chris.
Breaking news, Wisconsin has talking dogs.
Let me just back away from you a little
bit.
I think you'd be surprised, and when people call about how they talk to their dogs or cats, I'll bet you, I'll bet you up to half of the people you talk to, their dogs answer them back in some kind of a dog voice.
In a voice.
In a voice of some kind of human sounding
voice.
So when you talk...
To Reagan, your dog.
Yeah.
How does Reagan sound when she talks back to you?
Reagan
was rescued from Mississippi.
So she's a Southern doll.
So when she
got up here, she had a bit of a Southern accent.
So if I ask her, Reagan, you want to go outside?
She'll be, yes, I do want to go outside, daddy.
Reagan, what do you want for dinner?
I had me some crawfish or maybe some, you know, she answers in a Southern accent.
And she comes to work here now.
And then you've,
oh, she hangs around.
It's about a 45 minute to an hour drive.
We talk about traffic.
I mean, she'll look out that back window to watch out.
There's big old truck coming daddy.
So I'm glad my dash cam doesn't have audio.
Did your wife know you did this before you guys got married?
This wife
did.
She did.
But I was actually broken up with.
by a woman before this wife who heard me talk like that to my prior dogs.
She looked at me and she went, are you talking to that dog?
I said, yes, I've got to go.
This isn't
going to work.
This isn't going to work.
Seriously.
And she was gone.
She goes, you're nuts.
That's too far having
just a nice conversation with your pet.
I know.
Her loss.
Yeah, it was.
And they never got along any house.
The dog just told me glad she's gone.
Yeah.
I never like her
anyway.
Well, that was well before Reagan.
So that's a whole different
voice.
It's a different voice.
So that won't
bring up.
What is your pet voice?
Come on.
You know you do it.
We all do it.
855-752-4842.
We would like to hear the voice you use when you talk to your pet.
I always when Barclay was still, it was puppy head.
Hello puppy head, how's my puppy head?
You're such a good
puppy, who's my favorite puppy?
She's you on the live stream.
So this is a bit hard for me to call while working, but I tend to use a more cutesy voice with my rabbit and it's rabbit and rat.
They really get confused when I start talking to them in Chinese though.
I would think so.
Yeah.
I told you off air, we were just talking about this before, that my sister has, well she has two dogs now, but she had her dog Maddie, who's still around, and when they got Maddie, she would do this voice that was like, and I would sit there and watch her and be like, you are an adult with a job.
You have children,
you
pay taxes.
You sound like a crazy person right now, all in my head, I never said it out loud, because I fear her.
And I was like, I was like, that's just, I don't understand why she would, it's so dumb.
I am telling you right now, if there was a listening device in my home, they would think I was crazy.
Cause I'm just like, who's a sweet bubble girl?
I love
the bubble
girl so much.
I mean, but it's something about that too, Chris, that you said that, as you're like, like I wanted to know my voice.
So when I gave her commands, now granted, I don't say like, oh, do you want to eat some food?
I'll
say eat.
sit, stay, go outside.
But she also might think that I'm just an insane man with a lot of, cause I literally talked to her like a four year old kid.
I just, I can't help it cause she's so
cute.
What I love about this is before he got Maybell, he was one of those you pet people.
You know I am never gonna be a pet person The dog
will never sleep on the bed
between us
right dog will never be on the couch that
I'm never going
to do that
buddy I feel like I'm being misrepresented here if we check the tapes My big fear was that I was afraid I wasn't going to love them as much as my friends did because my people the way people love their house I've never had a dog before and so I'm like well, maybe I'm not equipped with
that maybe I'm gonna be an awful person because I'm gonna be like sit stand lay down pee no and that's it no the moment she was in my arms I was melted like a butter on top of a
hot
stove we all do and and and it's changed how I view certain things too like I keep animals cruelty in movies just I can't do it no I can't do it
855-752-4842.
Today is National Rescue Dog Day.
You don't have to be a rescue parent in order to call.
We really just want to hear how you talk to your pets.
What's your pet voice?
Come on.
You do it.
You do it.
You know you do.
855-75 Civic.
Brian from Milwaukee is brave.
Good morning, Brian.
Thank you for joining us.
Do you have a pet voice?
Yeah, we have two Saint Bernard's and with the Rora.
She's an older dog, but we call her sweet pea.
So we all the time You know, it's oh hey, sweet pea what's up, you know type of thing and then there's Buster who's a younger dog He's another Saint Bernard, but he's two so he's looking through her puppy and with him We're I just call him buddy.
He's my little buddy.
Yeah, but the funny thing is with him is when he's sleeping he
Sounds like one of the three Stoogers.
We actually took a... I could do that.
She was laying on the arm of the couch, and Aurora was laying right next to him on the other part of the couch.
And when he started doing this, she really looked at him like, what the hell is wrong with you?
Who brought this dog?
My wife actually sent me to get a sleep study because she thought I had sleep apnea from snoring.
I was gone that night, and the snoring was happening.
It
was the dog.
So I got hooked up to all this stuff, and had an awful night's sleep, and the dog was snoring the whole time.
Reagan needs
a
CPAP.
Yeah, the dog is still in the bed, and
I'm on the
couch.
Thank you, Brian.
That's great.
And good for you for having two Saint Bernard's.
Wow.
They're so beautiful.
I would just have its own couch for that, those big dogs.
Own bedroom.
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
It is national rescue dog day, but regardless, we would like to hear the voice you use when you talk to your pet.
Come on, you know you do it.
We all do it.
8-5-5-7-5 Civic, Ollie from the Northwoods is on the line.
Good morning, Ollie.
Do you have a dog or a
cat?
Currently I do not but when we did I used to talk kind of in a little little kidsy voice, but now I don't I'm handicapped and Can't really have a pet so I talked to my daughter's dog and he talks back and we talk
No, wait, Ollie, does the dog use dog words or people words?
No, he uses the same kind of doggy language.
He'll talk back.
Every time I call, he comes instinctively to her and sits and talks to me over the phone.
Oh, that's hilarious, Ollie.
That's amazing.
I love that so much.
That is so funny.
No,
it's granny.
Just
checking it.
Is it a husky that your daughter has?
Because I know huskies are very, very vocal dogs.
He is part husky.
She has three dogs, two that are rescue dogs, and he is part husky.
Yep.
That's so funny, Ollie.
That's great.
Thank you so much.
I have two questions.
One, Chris, when you talk to your dog, Reagan, do you talk in a Southern accent?
No, no,
she needs to know who I am.
I mean, I'm very serious about this, Greg.
I don't talk to kids in a baby voice.
I mean, it's like, hey, get up there and get in your high chair.
Well, they're kids.
Who cares about
kids?
They're going to listen to adult talk.
Who
cares about
kids?
Dogs, they want to hear you as you.
I'm my authentic self.
And so is Reagan.
That's why she comes up like that.
Meanwhile, she's like, I don't know why he talks like that.
He thinks I talk like
this.
This is my voice.
I'm from New York.
Calvin, do you have a voice?
Does anyone in your house have a voice they use with the dogs?
I don't know that I have a specific voice.
It's kind of just something that comes over me when I'm with the dog.
Which is?
I don't know.
I can't replicate it if the dog's not.
It has to be in the moment.
It has to be in the moment.
But I agree with Chris.
I kind of give voices.
Dolly, my corgi doesn't really have a voice, but Willie's kind of dopey.
He just...
He's like, okay.
There you
go.
Oh, I
don't feel so bad.
Oh, see,
that's the thing is if I gave a voice to Maybell, there'd be two voices.
When she's with mom, it's, oh my God, you're the greatest person.
I love you so much.
You're the best mom in the world.
When she's with me, she's like, would you just feed me already so
I can go over there
and sit down?
Cause you are a lot.
You're a
lot.
I'm a lot
with her because I'm, oh, I, she's not the.
cuddliest dog.
She'll cuddle in her ways.
But those videos you see where they like jump on you and just lay down and they're
with
you, she doesn't do that.
Maybe not yet.
So sometimes I'll just be like, I'm just going to scoop her up and hug her.
And she literally I'll hug her and she'll go like, let go of me.
Too tight dad.
It's too tight.
This leg, you're freaking me out.
We only have a couple of minutes.
Don't be shy.
Yeah, we really want to hear you.
We know you have a voice eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five Seven five civic and if you are ever looking for something or you need a laugh and you need a break and you need a little audio Sorbet Just go to Google and search for talking Huskies.
Oh my there are videos of people having entire arguments with their dog
Our Husky was, I'm sorry, Husky was the number one choice for us until someone sent us a few of their videos of how they vocalize.
And I can't be that guy in the neighborhood.
I can't be the guy
with the insane Husky.
Oh my gosh, no thank you.
We're going
home right now.
Also
if you're interested in rescue days, so if you're interested in rescuing a dog.
Contact your local rescue contact my
contact medic.
They are swamped with dogs Milwaukee area Animal Domestic Control Commission.
We'll put that in our show notes as well Thank You Chris moral for stepping in glad to be here.
I won't be able to show my face at the door
Oh, she's a southern
bell, huh?
This shouldn't be a thing is on the way hold the onions edition stay with us This is Matt near on air on the civic meet
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Oh my gosh.
Today is National Rescue Dog Day.
Well done, moms and dads.
And just to pet owners everywhere, we love you.
And we were talking about the voices that we use when we talk to our pets, because I think most of us do that.
And then we started talking about Huskies a little bit.
Matt from Germantown just texted in, our Husky is so sassy.
argues whenever we want her to do things.
Huskies have the opinions.
They have opinions.
They want to do things.
I was at the dog park last week and someone who had a Husky, they were leaving and that Husky just got up on the sunroof.
On
the car?
Yep.
And as they were driving away and like the half the body is out with a pause on the roof, just like looking at the world saying, I'm a Husky, deal with it.
I love dogs so much.
They are.
They're fantastic.
Yes.
Tomorrow.
Yes.
Coming up tomorrow.
Tomorrow is Wednesday.
That's it, everybody.
Have a good day.
I'm just double checking to make sure.
Yes.
Tomorrow is Wednesday.
And we're going to be talking to Kathy Giorgio.
She is a Waukesha North High School graduate.
And she is an author.
and she's actually on a wall of fame in her high school, but they don't stock her book.
No, they have banned her
book.
They have banned her book.
So we're gonna be talking to author Kathy Giorgio tomorrow in hour number two, right after the 10 o'clock news to find out what the situation is.
Award-winning author,
on their Hall of Fame in the school where she graduated here in Waukesha, and yet they will not carry her book.
Yeah, and she actually has a piece that's just published and something called People Magazine US.
I don't think to be confused with People
Magazine.
The actual People
Magazine.
But she has written a response to this, and yeah, we're looking forward to having her, and it's gonna be a great conversation about where we're going with.
banning books
again.
Yeah, banning books.
That will come up tomorrow.
After the 10 o'clock news, I hope you can join us for that.
It is getting late, Calvin.
10.55.
That means it is time for...
This shouldn't be a thing.
As always, if you have a thing you think should not be, send it into Greg and me at jamesaysatcivicmedia.us.
This from NBC News.
Joseph Lemur with the byline, the headline reads, Texas man, Suze, what a burger for nearly $1 million because the restaurant didn't hold the onions.
That's it, folks.
That's the whole story.
The lawsuit says Demery Ardell Wilson ate a meal that caused an allergic reaction because of onions that were in the burger even after he requested that there be none.
The petition filed.
In April, it says, Whataburger failed to act in accordance with the appropriate standard of care, causing Wilson to suffer personal injuries.
I'm not making fun of allergic reactions from food because they can be really deadly.
No.
It seems a little extreme.
Yeah.
The filing does not mention what Wilson ordered.
He ordered onions.
No.
But the traditional Whataburger.
Yeah.
features a beef patty with mustard, tomato, lettuce, pickles, and diced onions on a bun.
Their website does have a page listing possible allergens, but not onion.
His filing says there was a manufacturing defect in the food at the time it left Wilson's possession.
Wait, what?
Yeah, this sounds like a stretch.
Adding that what he ate was defective because it was unsafe to eat.
and it was rendered unreasonably dangerous.
The filing claims that Waterberger was negligent by providing Wilson with a meal including onions and that the inclusion of onions rises to the level of a manufacturing defect.
Mr. Wilson is seeking monetary relief over 250,000 but less than a million.
Ah, there really is.
Which includes damages, penalties, costs, expenses, pre-judgment interest, and all other relief.
Plaintiff expressly reserves the right to amend this damage calculation as discovery progresses.
There is nothing in here that says that he had to be hospitalized or that what happened from this allergic reaction
We'll see what happens with this.
I mean, this is not the first time something like I think last year a woman died after eating food at Disney and After they had made explicit like she is allergic to these things.
She cannot eat these things at all and she died of anaphylaxis and Disney said they didn't owe them money because they had a Disney plus account and in the Disney plus a crown agreement you waive certain rights to legal actions and they try to apply that
contract to their lawsuit, Disney paid up.
They were like, oh, we look real petty right
now for 50 grand.
Yeah, I would say.
The plaintiff's lawsuit against Whataburger is not the first time he has done
this.
In 2024, he filed a suit against a Sonic drive-in that got dismissed a month later.
So this might be Mr. Wilson's effort to hit on somebody who's gonna pay up.
I mean,
if I'm allergic to any food, even if I say no onions and I say I'm allergic, I'm still checking my burger.
I'm still
checking my food because I don't want to go to the hospital and or die.
That wraps up today's episode of...
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It means the world.
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