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He is a trooper, man.
Pat Krightlow, just back in the country yesterday.
Dude, I'd take a day off if I had traveled to, like, Chicago.
Dude, text me last night.
Get back from Europe.
I'm like, I'm back.
Let's do this tomorrow.
I'm like...
What?
And then he did his morning show and Pat Crite was going to join us.
After 9 30, we're going to bring him up to date on some things he might have missed.
Oh, yeah, just just a
couple of things.
Derek Van Orden essentially saying.
We don't need spring elections.
No.
What do we
need those for?
We don't get enough turn on the Republican side.
Let's just end it.
Enjoy the weather.
Don't worry about voting people.
Yeah, please.
Just enjoy spring.
So we'll talk to Pat Crichtlow after the 9 30 news and hour number two.
Missy Hughes will be here.
She is the secretary at the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation.
And we're going to talk about tariffs.
Yes, she just did a it was a nine day economic trip to
Europe with Governor Evers, they wrote an op-ed piece as well on these topics of tariffs and how they affect Wisconsin businesses, especially small businesses here, which as we know,
it's
the
backbone of America.
That's right.
They certainly are.
And then, of course, the last half an hour of the show, we try and lighten things up a little bit.
So Beth Heidorn from the Racine Zoo is going to stop in.
They have a new arrival.
Oh, yes, a little stripy one.
And I think that there's a naming contest.
So we're going to talk about the Racine Zoo's new arrival and all the things you can do this summer at the great.
It's a really sweet little zoo.
It's a wonderful.
It's a it's a great way to spend like, you know, you can do a half a day if you can do a full day there.
But it's not one of those zoos where you're walking like, oh my gosh, where do I start?
Yeah, very.
It's compact.
Exactly.
Yeah, it's really cute.
And then we'll wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.
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We have some breaking news as we are coming on the air this morning and when I was driving and listening to you and Pat and there was, you were talking or it was Dan Schaffer, somebody talking about, hey, we have a lull in the elections.
Yeah,
didn't, you know, who doesn't want a little time off from having an election almost every single season.
That
was a nice morning.
Oh my God.
Because the news as we come on the air this morning from Allison Durand, Molly Beck and the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the headline reads, liberal Chris Taylor will challenge conservatives of Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Rebecca Bradley in 2026.
The 57-year-old former Democratic state lawmaker announced her plans that she will run for the high court today.
She says that over her 30-year legal career as an attorney, a lawmaker, and a judge, she has worked to make sure, quote, the law is used to protect Wisconsinites, their rights, and their freedoms, unquote.
Wait.
He said that?
Or
she?
She said that.
Chris Taylor is a woman.
Oh, I'm sorry.
My apologies.
I read Chris.
It was C-H-R-I-S.
R-I-S.
I was doing so much stuff.
My assumptions.
We're incorrect.
I'm terrible.
Rebecca Bradley, 53, has announced she will be seeking another 10-year term on the court this after the April election, of course, where Dane County Judge Susan Crawford handily.
Handily, handily.
Just like Justice Protossewitz did as well.
One over Brad Schimel.
What are you saying?
And then gave liberal control of the Wisconsin Supreme Court until at least 2028.
Liberal candidates have won four of the last five Supreme Court elections, each of those by double digits.
And as Tony put on the live stream, isn't everyone liberal compared to Judge Bradley?
Because Judge Bradley, if you, I'll try to find and put in the show notes, but if you can just find out what she had to say the night of.
of the election in April.
Oh, she was so gracious.
It was gracious.
It was
so professional.
It
definitely didn't sound like a spoiled child who hasn't gotten their toy yet.
And I sat there with my mouth at Gabe going, are you serious?
Honestly, if you haven't, like it sounded like Daniel Kelly's concession speech.
Non-concession
speech.
Yeah, we are all in danger of justice protests.
I said this to you before the show, Jane.
Yes, we are living in very divided times, and there seems to be a large group of people who hook onto this very vitriolic, very... The nastier the better.
The nastier the better.
Just say a bunch of mean words, and oh my gosh, they're lining up to give you money.
But... In the last two Wisconsin Supreme Court elections, both candidates going against...
I mean, Daniel Kelly was, I think, more full-throated in his conservatism, but Brad Schimmel is a conservative.
Both elections were decided by at least a double-digit win margin, which says to me that in the sense of these types of elections, Wisconsinites can't do things differently.
You cannot... We said this as well.
You can't convince me that in a 10 to 11-point victory between Justice Prostatewicz and Justice Crawford, or Justice Elect, I should say Crawford,
that some Republicans weren't voting for them, because it was so, it was a landslide
for them.
It was decided quickly, the announcements came in before the half hour mark on both.
So to me, I think if Justice Bradley wants to make headway with the people of Wisconsin, I mean, she'll probably get money
from
outside sources.
But if she wants to make headway with Wisconsinites, I think she needs to dial back that rhetoric just a little bit.
She can be conservative, be law and order, do all the things they do, but I don't think
That version of her from that night is going to play well with the people.
That's an interesting take.
Yeah, it is because I look at someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Yeah.
Who's.
Pretty popular, at least in her district, because they just convinced her not to run for governor in Georgia.
I think she would be because they think they think she would get crushed.
So maybe you maybe you have a point.
It's
like we'll accept that kind of behavior to a certain level.
And after that, it's like, yeah, we need someone who's a little bit not quite so.
That is a technical
term.
Yeah.
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If
you would like to join us, again, breaking news, as we came on the air this morning, Rebecca Bradley now has her first challenger for the spot on the Wisconsin Supreme Court Liberal State Appeals Court, Judge Chris Taylor, launching her bid to unseat her.
Taylor is 57, a former Democratic state lawmaker, and she has had a 30-year legal career.
And that's going to be less than a
year away now.
Oh, I would bet that the ads, well, of course, again, it depends upon how quickly do you want to start spending the money that people are sending you?
Because Susan Crawford did not start really spending commercial money until I would say it seemed like three weeks.
I mean, it was, it was to the point where we were talking about like, if she wants to win, she needs to be places.
And, and I mean, whomever was in her campaign kudos because they did it right because she came out big.
She was on our show and pretty much after she was on our show and on other civic media shows and doing other interviews, the.
bombardment started to happen.
I saw all the more yard signs.
I saw tons of ads.
Some would say too many, but yeah, it was, I think that's something to be said about that versus what Brad Schimmel did, which even though he was running for 18 months,
he really did.
He
pretty much announced after justice pros say what's one that he was going to be running for the office.
And he ran around Wisconsin to this thing, but I don't,
Didn't help him, I guess.
It didn't because it lost.
But yeah, it'll be interesting to see when this starts ramping up and
who gets out there first.
First.
Well, the election will be next April.
Grand.
I
know.
I just, I'm sorry, folks, but this is what we're in for.
This is what happens in Wisconsin.
Also announcing this morning from the Wisconsin Examiner, Eric Dunn, the headline says in Wisconsin's first congressional district.
Who?
Iron Stash, Randy Bryce, decides to seek a rematch in 2026.
Well, it's a rematch in as much as Heath.
Okay.
All right.
All right, Democrats and liberals.
Bryce announcing
today he will seek the nomination to run against Republican incumbent Brian Stile in 2026.
Bryce says he expects the top issues to be preserving social security, resisting Donald Trump's tariffs,
and attacks on immigrants and pushing back against the general climate of fear under Republicans.
His first campaign did not go so well.
No, it didn't because he ran on them on the platform.
I want to beat Paul Ryan.
And then when Paul Ryan said, I'm not running, his campaign went out because everyone wanted that was the thing is that's the biggest rule.
Don't run to beat someone.
run to win.
And he was running to beat Paul Ryan.
And when Paul Ryan said, I'm not, I'm not going to get re-election.
I'm taken off.
He is campaign deflated.
I was at his quote unquote victory party that night.
It was Dower.
Oh, I Randy Bryce.
Yes.
Oh, I bet.
And I just don't think he is.
And also just, it's a rematch sort of, but the big thing was like, he wasn't running.
He was running against Brian style, but the, the mode wasn't Brian style.
He just happened to be the guy.
And so I just, Democrats, Democrats and liberals, you could do better than this in my opinion.
Well, and weren't there some things about his past and child support and those things that came up that were problematic for Randy Bryce?
I might be speaking out of turn.
We'll double check on that.
But I just remember.
He had a lot of support.
I think he was, you know, again, the iron worker, the union guy, all that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
But again, he lost pretty handily to Brian style.
He did.
And he, I mean, he got nationwide recognition.
He was, I remember when Sarah Silverman had a TV show on Hulu, he was on the show.
Like he was getting nationwide because he's.
Hard working the iron stash union like you can't deny his bona fides when it comes to a blue collar Wisconsin life And I'm not denying that and I'm not saying he's not a good guy I'm just saying he wasn't the right candidate at the time because they pushed him in the wrong way I think that if he wants to run again fine, but He has to bring it two times harder now.
He had I mean and Brian style is not stupid.
No, he's a good campaign He's been in that position for a while for a reason
And he learned well from Paul Ryan.
Yes.
The first CD here in Wisconsin has, for some reason, even though it's, it's purplish blue has always gone red for that, for that seat or not always, but recently for a long time, I guess now, but it's just that notion of you really want to win that.
I'm sorry.
I don't, I don't think he's, and prove me wrong.
Well, and maybe someone else will step up.
We're still a ways away from this.
Yeah, this is like a
year and a half away.
We got time on this.
Tony, on the live stream, we were talking about when do you start spending money as
a
candidate?
You don't start spending until you can keep it going through election day, which makes sense.
And Cassandra, also, it's almost like the way they only campaign for a month in the UK is a good idea.
Cassandra, I'm telling you, my husband talks about that all the time.
My husband is English.
He does not understand why we have campaign season for seven and a half months or longer.
None of us understand it.
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This is not necessarily good news, especially if you wanted to buy a home.
From NBC News, mortgage rates crossed back over 7% after U.S.
credit downgrade.
This happened on Friday.
Moody's downgraded our credit rating.
America's credit rating.
Not my credit rating.
My credit rating is actually pretty good.
So America if you need a loan.
But yeah, Modi's downgraded America's credit rating.
And now mortgage rates are back up over 7%.
This from NBC News.
Homebuilders also seeing a steep drop in demand last month with sentiment among that group at the lowest since the end of 2023.
The average rate on the popular 30-year fixed loan is 7.04%.
The highest since April 11th.
Matthew Graham is COO at Mortgage News Daily.
He says the average mortgage lender had to account not only for the market movement in Friday's closing minutes, but also to the additional weakness seen this morning.
That makes for a fairly big jump day over day.
does little to change the bigger picture.
April surge and mortgage rates had a direct effect on the housing market, causing it to pull back right in the heart of the usually busy spring season.
This is a big time when a lot of folks trying to sell their houses.
Summertime's coming up.
You want to get into the new house and get set up before school starts and fall.
It's tough.
It's tough if you're trying to buy a
house.
It wasn't easy before it wasn't easy when they were the when we bought our house.
It was always the mortgage rate We I'll tell you what ours is right now.
It's it's it's 5.3 and that's after we paid to have it lower by 0.03% I didn't know you could do that and to me that also just tells me that interest rates are a sham They're just whatever if I can buy a portion of it down then to me that's but
mortgage rates or interest rates being five were even seen by some.
And by us, like, oh, that's a lot.
That's a lot.
That's a lot of money.
Not to mention on top of that, that we were in such a battleground of real estate where it's, do you want to buy a house?
Cool.
Do you have 50 grand in cash on you as well to outbid the five other people who are trying?
Doesn't everyone just have 50 grand in cash laying around?
You know, I mean, I'll find it somewhere.
I'll sell a kidney or two or maybe,
It's it was never easy.
It was it hasn't been easy for years.
And this just makes it worse.
Not to mention the bigger picture is that we have lost our perfect credit credit credit rating.
And do not tell me it's because of Joe Biden stock market.
No, this is not because of the former president.
This is because of the less than five month.
No, yeah, tomorrow, five month mess we are in.
No Four month four month my I'm just waiting for I'm waiting to be like well.
This is because of Joe Biden did x y and z. No, it's not
Well former president Biden, you know now we as he has stage nine cancer There is no stage nine by the way Donald Trump said that yesterday We know that former president Biden has
has cancer,
an
aggressive form of prostate cancer, and current President Trump said yesterday, yeah, he's got stage nine.
There is no stage nine, which is good.
That's great.
Stage four is still not good.
Yeah, I don't.
Well, and what this is gonna do too, unfortunately, we've already had, we don't have enough housing for people who want to buy them, and this is gonna make it even more difficult for home builders too.
And then we have tariffs against Canada and we get a lot of lumber from Canada.
So it just seems like this is not a good cycle if you're trying to get into the housing market.
It almost seems, Jane, as if it's a system that's not built for the middle and working class to hook onto that American dream and do exactly what we've been told for decades, which is have a family, buy a house, have kids.
It's like it's almost being rigged against us.
It's good if you're a
venture capital group, though.
You can
buy lots of
houses.
I'll buy ten of them.
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Just got back last night at a show this morning, joining us right now.
He is a trooper and the king of Yacht Rock.
Pat Crite low is here.
Good morning.
Welcome home.
How are you?
Oh, thank you.
It's nice to be home.
But what a wonderful trip to Portugal where some friends got married.
One of the the the groom I've known the bride a lot longer from my TV days.
Yep.
But she married this wonderful man who who the one
flaw that she finds in him, I would disagree it's a flaw, is he is as crazy for Yacht Rock as anybody you would ever want to meet.
So I already knew this was the right guy for her.
That's
not a flaw.
That's not a boy.
There could be there are many, many worse flaws
than that.
Oh, oh, don't I know it.
But anyway, no, wonderful trip.
Great to be back.
And I want to really thank Greg again for all the work to help with the fill ins, keep the train running.
And, you know, putting up with with a host who maybe showed
this morning, why you wouldn't necessarily do a show a day after a transatlantic flight.
But I figure I liken it to those shows where the host purposefully has a certain number of alcoholic drinks only to prove why you shouldn't drink and drive.
Yes.
Maybe done.
Maybe jet lag has that same kind of experience on a person.
I'm just
waiting for Pat to be like, so there I was.
Yeah, he's going to have 10 o'clock this morning.
10 or six.
Pat's going to be in bed.
I did have somebody ask about a three o'clock meeting today.
I said, no, no, no.
After after that, there's no guarantees.
Nappy
time for Pat.
The
one
thing though, I was listening on the way in as I always do, Pat.
And you were talking about just some of the experiences you had in Portugal and my husband and I have been there a number of times and we're big fans of
that
country.
But you went to Nazaré, which if anyone has watched the 100 foot wave.
Oh.
That is the place where extreme surfers go.
Wait,
is that a TV show or is that just a
thing?
It's a series now on Netflix, I believe.
Okay, all right.
But if you search, if you just search Google for 100 foot wave, they have extreme surfers come in like October, November and December into this tiny little fishing village that was really not prepared for what it has become.
No, it's such a tiny village with extremely narrow cobblestone streets.
And yes, talking to one of the locals about, you know, what a beautiful place this is, beautiful beach, beautiful little town.
And they said, Yeah, we've always been here, the waves, they've always been here.
Somebody just figured it out like they have these big waves here.
And they are still trying to come to grips with all of these people who are showing up.
Yeah, it's, it's, I mean, I kind of feel for him on the one hand, because again, like you said, that fishing village has been there forever.
The waves have been there forever, but it was only within the last 15, 20 years that it's really landed on a lot of, again, these super extreme surfers have found incredible conditions and it's very, very dangerous.
If you're not a professional, don't even think about it.
No,
and it is beautiful.
We they're they're in that slow time of the season where the waves aren't 100 feet tall, right?
Still very impressive, still very terrifying actually come to think about it.
But there is just so much to love about that country.
And, you know, Portugal was not necessarily on our list.
I mean, Europe overall was.
But now Portugal specifically haven't been we went to like half a dozen places throughout the country.
And if if for folks listening, if you get a chance, go.
Just go.
Travel is just, it's, I just think it's good for you.
I just think it's good for you.
Even if just, even if all you do is cross state lines, I think meeting
different
people, eating different foods, getting different perspectives.
I, I think it's really
good for us.
Jim and Brookfield put this on our text line and I didn't have time for it during the show where he said, good morning, Pat.
Glad to have you back on the air.
As Mark Twain said, travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness.
Yes.
Yes.
And he said, driving overseas on a road using the metric system confirms Twain's quote, Jim from Brookfield.
Yeah.
Again,
we talked about that this morning about why are we still living out this Nate Barghetti,
you know, skid from
SNL
and
still using feet and ounces and pounds when there was a better system all along, but.
I could go on and on.
Feels like I did this morning, yes.
That's a
side note.
Speaking of that, Nate Bargatze, SNL hit.
I think we should put that in the show notes, just because it is so funny.
It's perfect.
It is.
If you need to just take a breath, like we do with Audio Sorbet or at some point during the day, check out that clip from Saturday Night Live.
Nate Bargatze, as George Washington, it is.
It's just priceless.
People, I mean, it's one of their biggest best sketches of recent years.
It's got 22 million views.
Yeah, it's great.
And they know about it over there.
They cited it at one point when we were having some kind of discussion.
They said, oh yeah, why are you still living like that skit at that NAPAR Academy?
We just laughed like, oh, they've heard about it over here.
Of course.
We don't have muskets anymore.
We have machine guns now.
Thank you very
much.
Oh yeah, that's really funny.
Well anyway, welcome back.
Glad to have you back.
update you on a couple of things that were happening while you were away, just to get you kind of back up to speed.
Of course, Republicans trying to pass Donald Trump's big, beautiful bill.
It's the biggest bill.
It's the most
beautiful bill ever of bills among the bills that we've had.
Donald Trump was on
Capitol Hill this morning trying to strong arm.
I mean, I'm sorry, convince some Republicans to vote in favor of this.
Here's what the president of the United States said this morning.
Quote, we're going to make a couple of tweaks.
I mean, we don't want to benefit Democrat governors.
Although I would do that if it made it better, but they don't know what they're doing.
We want to help all the states, but we have governors that are from the Democrat Party who have done a horrible job.
We want to benefit Republicans.
They are the ones that are going to make America great again, unquote.
So if you're in a Democratic state, and even if you voted for him,
You're out of luck, I guess.
We have a Democratic
governor and a Republican passport.
We're leaving again.
Get the passports ready.
Yikes.
Have we ever had a president before who's come out and said, I'm only going to help the states that have Republicans?
Yes, we did actually have somebody like that once.
It was during the pandemic.
It was a guy named Donald Trump who said he only wanted to help the states, you know, the states with the, with blue governors and blue states didn't need help with the pandemic.
Yeah, we had that guy once and we got rid of him and somebody.
Let him back in.
I mean, again, the thing with the Roche motel is you got to renew it from time to time.
Otherwise, it doesn't work so much.
And somebody, somebody dropped the ball and the Roches are back in the house.
And this is just a thing that I just don't understand.
When did it become the Democrat, those Democrat governors?
Oh, this has
been
that's
been in the works for a while.
When is what?
Why is Democrat supposed to be like a, a.
A
cut.
It's an insult.
Yeah, why is it an insult by calling like the Democrat judge?
Okay, whatever.
Well, for the same reason that Trump talked about President Biden's stage nine cancer.
Because they know it needles.
We're going to needle them by calling them the Democrat party and stage nine.
And look how much they get upset about it.
We get upset about it because
We don't like when people are wrong, or when people lie, or when people are mean, and if that gets onto your skin, you know, or no, if you like watching that get under other people's skin, what does that say about you that this is what you're rooting for?
You're rooting against some of your fellow Americans, just so that you can, what, say your team won?
Let me make this point about rooting for a team.
There are people who go, you've seen them, Jane.
They get so wound up when the Packers lose.
So wound up.
I
mean,
like, like almost violent when the team loses.
And you want to say to them, and I have said to some friends, guys, they don't care.
They're millionaire athletes.
They don't care.
And the same goes for these ones in Washington.
They don't care that you're rooting for them or not root.
They're
They love having you as a fan because it keeps them famous and in power.
They don't care.
Stop investing so much about winning on behalf of a team, a team that does not know you.
And
isn't looking out for you
either and isn't looking out for you Hans Hans mentioned that this morning when you had him on the show He's saying there's so many people out there who are the blue collar working class of America who put themselves out quote him in the same bucket as those millionaires and billionaires and they think that if they win I'm gonna win and that's not true It's never been true when people are trying to snake the system
cut billions if not trillions in programs that usually help the people not military spending or taxing the rich that money usually goes right back to the rich it doesn't it's not a uh hey everybody here's a wonderful tax break for everyone no it's a uh my rich friends who got me here are going to get even richer now that's how it works it's never about us it's about them
what it
We've heard about trickle down since the 80s, trickle down economics that we're still waiting for the great benefits from the trickle down economy, which again, I'm still personally waiting for.
Maybe I'm just bad with money.
Well, but, but Hans made a good point in an earlier visit with him about how part of the reason now in this case, it's farmers.
And again, I want to warn people don't paint farmers with a broad brush.
They didn't all vote for Trump, but.
You know, many farmers who did said, well, yeah, there was this trade war with China the last time he was in office, but he sent us these checks.
And so they feel like, oh, I made money off of Trump when, when actually they lost money.
Actually, we lost a lot more in trade than those subsidy checks that Trump sent out.
And they're feeling this time, Trump and the Republicans is, once again, if we can figure out what is the least amount of tax cut possible to give to the middle class, to farmers, to others, to make them think that this big, beautiful bill is a good idea, that it works for them.
If they can come up with just enough, people will go, well, I got my tax cut check, so I'm okay.
completely forgetting that two years, three years, five years down the line, your taxes actually went up.
And that's how they wrote the bill.
They wrote just enough of a cut in the first year or two to fool you.
Don't
let that happen again.
That's so important, Pat, because I think most of us have forgotten about that.
The tax cuts that he instituted in 2017, the big tax cuts for the ultra wealthy were made permanent.
The tax cuts for the rest of us were temporary and only lasted for two years.
So if you have paid when you've done your income taxes, which we have to, we've paid in the last couple of years where we had never done that for many years.
You can thank Donald Trump or the Republican Party for that.
But they timed
out in a way that they go, oh, you see, that was Joe Biden's fault.
Exactly.
No, it's how the bill was written originally.
And.
Don't don't let them get away with it again.
It's always Joe Biden's fault.
No matter what it is, it's always as the stock market.
Joe Biden's fault.
Well, we started calling him while you were gone.
We started calling them the the dog.
He ate my homework administration because they got excuses for everything as far
as how
nothing is ever their fault.
Or it's the the five year old.
He did it.
Yeah, he did it.
I like that.
It's something else.
I love that.
It's like, well, why?
Why is the FAA shambles?
It's people just as fault.
It's his fault.
He rides a bicycle apparently.
Yeah.
He's married to a man.
It's his fault.
Weird.
And people have pointed out, you know, Sean Duffy and others voted against this stuff in 2019.
But you got to say it more than once, otherwise people will forget because they're going to blame it on Biden a hundred times, you know.
Don't take your afterball.
Exactly.
And that's one of the reasons why we're here to remind you of those little tidbits that
Some people would really rather that we forget.
Speaking of tidbits, we have a tidbit from Wisconsin Senior Senator Ron Johnson about Medicaid.
He's got concerns.
He has thoughts.
We'll share those on the other side.
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We are joined by the host of Mornings with Pat Critello.
Pat Critello is here just talking about some of the things that you might have missed, Pat, while you were overseas, vacationing.
I put
missed in quotes first, though, okay?
Things I might have
missed.
Missed, exactly.
Yeah, missed.
Wisconsin Senior Senator Ron Johnson, talking about the big, beautiful bill that President Trump wants to pass, but of course there's cuts to one big program, even though I'm pretty sure they were told we will never touch Medicaid, we will never touch Medicare, we'll never touch Social Security.
Well, maybe this time.
Calvin, let's play that clip from Wisconsin Senior Senator, please.
If you really look at it, look at the numbers and I look at the numbers, uh, we will actually increase the deficit over the next 10 years going from right now, 37 trillion dollars in debt.
CBO says we'll be at 59.
My guess would probably increase that by about $4 trillion with the big new deal.
Uh, the big beautiful deal, right?
62 to 63 trillion dollars.
Again, you have to be honest.
And by the way, I know, I know Buck at the end of the show.
Or I think you might ask me this last time, what are you going to cut?
It's impossible to say, you know, Medicaid absolutely have to go after that.
But what you need is a process.
Medicaid absolutely got to go after that.
And I will say this, Ron Johnson is the only one who is actually admitting that this is going to tack on trillions to the deficit because it is.
Right.
And.
He is concerned concerned again in quotes about the deficit and the national debt.
And yet he didn't appear to be that concerned in 2017.
No, when when he was when it was made clear that that tax plan would add at least two trillion dollars to the national debt.
And they said, oh, that's OK.
It'll pay for themselves because, you know, trickle down.
Yeah, always pays for itself.
Yeah, it did not.
Then there was concern about the the debt and the deficit when.
Joe Biden was in office and now a little less so again because we keep hearing, oh, it's going to pay for itself.
Except a few people like Ron Johnson were saying, well, I might actually be against this if it raises the national debt too much.
Don't believe it.
All he's doing is what he did in 2017, which is look for concessions like the last time around when Ron Johnson was a holdout until he got a particular type of tax break for something called past
through
corporations.
that benefited him personally and benefited some of his billionaire campaign donors.
So if he's setting the stage for that, that's fully in character with what he's been doing.
But if I can, one other note on this national debt being $36 trillion, it'll go to $59 trillion, and people say, well, that's just unsustainable.
The reason it hasn't been unsustainable is because if there's one thing the rest of the global economy wants,
It's American dollars and American treasuries and American bonds they want in on the action of the of a stable secure Democratic with a small D economy But for what they're doing to get rid of our you know to trash our credit rating as you were talking about earlier and this trade war and everything else if all of that tarnishes faith in the US economy then
that deficit and that national debt, then it will really matter because we're no longer the one safe place where the rest of the world knows they can put their money in troubled times.
Well, and that's one of the reasons why Trump reversed himself.
When the bonds, when the bond market started having big, big twitches, all of a sudden, that's when he backed off on the tariffs.
That was like, oh, well, and he said, people are getting yippy.
I think he said, yeah, somebody's got the yips.
Okay, well, and then they said and then when he backed off and the market recovered everyone who supported him came on said you don't understand He's playing 40
chest.
It's the art of the deal man But something that Ron Johnson made very clear in his and the words he used because if you want to look at programs like we've said before look at ways for spending look at consolidations look at ways we can take down costs great do studies talk to experts hold hearings
Do the process.
But he said, you have to go after it in the sense of Medicaid.
Now, we have to study Medicaid.
We have to look at reductions.
We have to look at problems.
It's go after it.
To me, that seems like they're just going in with Elon's chainsaw to say, you're not getting this money anymore, folks.
Sorry if you like Medicaid, but you're not getting it.
Calvin, do we have time to play that clip from Rick Scott, the former governor of Florida?
Let's play this clip from Rick Scott, also chiming in on Medicaid.
Take a listen.
Of course, one of the sticking points is this business about paying able-bodied 30-year-old men without dependence, welfare, with no work requirement.
Why do some of your colleagues have a problem with that?
It doesn't make sense to me.
Number one is if you don't want to work, you're the one that decided you don't want health care.
That's number one.
Number two, Medicaid is supposed to be for children that don't have health care.
and people with chronic illness.
I remember when my brother couldn't get health care, I grew up in public housing.
Today, that child might not get it because of what these states are doing.
They get more money to take care of able-bodied adults.
That's enough, Calvin.
I think it's important that people understand that not every employer offers health care.
They just don't.
They
don't.
So
don't tell me that you don't want a job.
You don't have health care because you don't want a job.
That doesn't make any
sense.
That is the biggest mistake we've made for generations now is linking health care access, affordable health care access to employment.
It was started during World War II at a time of wage controls and labor shortages.
It was the one benefit that was allowed.
And we have allowed that to continue to defining whether you get health care coverage or not, along with all the other tropes that he and Derek Van Orden love to talk about how poor they were growing up till they
push the ladder away and turn their back on the people, you know, from where they came from.
And speaking of Medicare fraud, by the way, Rick Scott, when he handled a company in Florida, I
think I
find $1.7 billion for Medicare fraud, but let's not talk about that.
No, quite low.
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