Fly Me To Jersey (Hour 1)

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Hour number two, Tracy Morgan, her key has a gluten free bakery in Milwaukee.

And we're going to be talking about tariffs.

And in particular, she's a small business owner.

And we've talked before about small businesses are having a tough time dealing not only with the uncertainty, but now the hike in the tariffs and how that is affecting their business and just supply chains and all that stuff.

So Tracy is going to be joining us around 1006 at 1035.

It's a segment we call Audio Sorbet.

Or we take a little break from the news.

Thank you, Calvin.

It's like ear cleansing as

a word.

Get away from politics.

So today at 10 30, they're out with the list of the most popular names in America, boys and girls names.

So we're going to talk about those.

And then we want to know what do you wish you had been named?

Yeah.

I think there's a lot of people who aren't necessarily you come to just deal with it after.

a certain amount of time after a certain age.

But I know as a kid, I really wanted a different name.

And it's not just like a regular, like, you know, like, oh, my name is Frank, I'd rather be Steve.

If you want to be like, you know, Zorba Frankenstein, that go for, we want, we want, like, what, what did you want as a kid name?

I always think of the movie Big Daddy where he, he named himself Frankenstein, the kid does cause he's like, he can name himself whatever he wants.

Yeah, anything.

Go for it.

Just be FCC compliant.

So that will be at 1035.

And then we'll wrap up the show as we always do with a segment called This Shouldn't Be a Thing.

Today it's the Kitty Gotta Grill edition.

You want to stick around for that.

And as always, if you have a thing you think should not be, send it in to Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us.

To start off with though, I thought we would

Kick it off with Wisconsin residents, Sean Duffy from the Department of the Dog ate my homework.

We don't know what happened.

Who's fault is it now?

Somebody else's fault.

It's just not my fault.

It's

not this

administration's fault.

It's got to be somebody else's fault.

Sean Duffy, of course.

In the news as the head of the Department of Transportation, there have been problems at the Newark Airport that we're going to get to in just a second.

I did want to mention this very briefly.

There was a really serious fire at an apartment complex in Milwaukee within the last couple of days.

About 100 residents were displaced.

Five people have died in this fire.

And now these 100 folks are staying in a temporary shelter and they're being helped out by the Red Cross.

Wonderful.

So if you would like to do something to assist, you can always

donate to the Red Cross, get in touch with them.

Maybe there's something else that you can do, but contact the local Red Cross after this big fire at the Highland Court Apartments in Milwaukee.

Now again, 100 residents in temporary shelter.

They lost, they've lost everything.

I know it's not completely applicable, but this is just always a good time.

Whenever you talk about the Red Cross, we talk about things that are happening, tragedies for people.

There's never not a good time to give blood, make an appointment.

Go out, just take an hour of your time, give blood, it helps so much, they're always in need.

Yes.

And we'll put a link to the Red Cross in there, in our show notes as well.

You can always find our show notes at civicmedia.us, click on shows, go to Matt and Air on Air, and there's at least 100 former earlier episodes that you can go back and listen to if you so choose.

But going back to Wisconsin's own Duffster, here is the headline from the Independent.

Sean Duffy blames Biden for Newark Airport Crisis, but also says it should have been fixed during COVID.

when Trump was in office.

Whomp, whomp.

This is just so inevitable, it seems.

Yes.

And I guess what bothers me even more, this assumption, I think, that no one's gonna go back and check.

You mean just a calendar?

Yeah, exactly.

Just this, I'm gonna say this thing that's a blatant lie, that's blatant BS, and nobody's gonna check it, and everyone's just gonna swallow it and go on with their day.

Yeah, no.

No, but the other thing I think about too is that it's a classic example of people like Sean Duffy, however you want to look at him, whether it's, hey, he's a Republican, he's a Trump or he's rich, he's this, he's that.

He's just a guy who doesn't care enough to know when things actually happened or like affect people.

Like if he would, you know, he was staying on brand, he never would have said during COVID.

He would have said, you know, during the Biden administration, they could have fixed this.

We were trying to, we were trying to build back America.

You know what I mean?

Like there are different ways you could focus the blame, but he's, he doesn't care.

So he just said during COVID and that was dumb of him.

I don't know, maybe he doesn't

actually

realize who was in charge when COVID hit.

Well, that's what I'm talking about.

He really just doesn't care enough to know things.

So he says whatever, and then he does things like this.

He says just dumb

stuff.

Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy on Monday, largely blaming a string of problems at Newark International Airport and the larger issues with our flight, air traffic controllers, all of those things.

On the Biden administration,

But he also accidentally indicted Trump for not doing more.

Here's the quote.

We didn't have to be here.

This did not have to be our story.

Over the last four years, the administration, they knew this was a problem.

And by the way, during COVID, when people weren't flying,

That was a perfect time to fix these problems, unquote.

It would have been a good time

to

fix these problems.

Yes.

And you know who was in charge at that time, Donald Trump.

Yeah.

I think that the thing he's going around talking about now is that these are like decades old structures, their equipment is old, they need to be updated.

And that's fine.

That's absolutely fine.

But we're also dealing with an administration that's slashing and burning jobs departments.

So

And they're not using that money for infrastructure.

They're going to use that money for tax cuts.

So where are they going to get the money?

He is positive that they're going to get the money.

Where are they going to get that money from?

Because if you think about all of the airports, just the major ones, just go, every state has a major airport, pretty much.

Pretty much.

How much do you think it would cost to overhaul all the towers in all the major airports?

And some of them have to, like you, to California, they probably have at least three major airports, if not more.

So you're talking about

Billions of dollars.

Where's that money gonna come from?

Well,

they're gonna raise the debt ceiling to four trillion dollars.

Oh cool That's you know, so all all the problems disappear.

Yeah, I would really like to find someone I think I'm gonna I'm gonna speak with you know, I want to find someone to take us through the timeline of this all because Yes, I don't doubt that fixes and upgrades can be made, but I also don't remember blackouts

and malfunctions and planes flying at each other and helicopters crashing and people dying over the past even four, five, six years, even during Trump won.

This all seemed to be starting in the past few months.

And that also coincides with them firing a lot of people who work in the airline industry.

So I'd love to know the timeline of all of these things.

So we can, and I don't want to blame.

I don't, because I think absolutely we can make the changes and upgrade, but

It just seems too convenient, of course, because that's what they want to do.

It's it's Biden's stock market.

It's Biden's FAA.

Yes, unless it's good.

1200 points yesterday, folks.

We are the best ever.

We're so good.

America's back.

Airlines and unions have called on the government to do more for decades.

So again, I'm not saying that there's not plenty of blame

to go

around.

We could we could do this.

We could say the same thing about the immigration problems.

Mm hmm.

That can has been kicked down the road for decades under both administrations.

Yeah, both sides are to blame for not doing the work that's needed because it's easier to do nothing and bloviate on a podium than it is to actually put your name on a piece of legislation and fight for it.

And

stand up for

it,

exactly.

Again, airlines and unions have been calling on the government to do more for decades under the Biden administration.

Then, the head of the Department of Transportation, Pete Buttigieg, asked Congress to provide more funding to hire thousands of new air traffic controllers.

Guess what happened?

House Republicans blocked that effort.

And I'm pretty sure when that happened, wasn't Sean Duffy a congressman at the time?

I think he was.

I think

he was.

If he wasn't, I know that there was a similar piece of legislation that he voted against.

And he was also...

a lobbyist for the airline industry.

Which I did not know until like over the weekend

yet.

Duffster was lobbying for

the

airline industry.

And he wasn't lobbying for our safety or for lower prices or anything like he was looking to deregulate deregulate because they love nothing more than no rules.

Some FAA jobs that were eliminated this from the Associated Press did have direct roles in supporting safety inspectors and airport operations.

Remember when

Trump 2.0 came in They immediately fired about 400 people from the from the aviation industry Great 400 what

what what a what a move to make America great again?

Absolutely, and then I saw something yesterday that because Duffy and his wife live out east now and she works on Fox Yeah, and he was saying on the one hand Newark is perfectly fine

You can fly in and out of Newark.

No problem.

I know, you know, we're having issues But it's it's all good and then in the same sentence in the next sentence He said however, I did rebook my wife's flight and moved her out of Newark.

Yeah That's not necessarily reassuring.

No, it does not give a lot of confidence even though and he also said everything is working fine now He said that it's just a lot of conflicting messages coming through

I mean, at the end of the day, whoever's in charge, I want them to do the best job, and I want them to fix the airports.

If the airports need a fixin', fix

the airport.

Well, but my other concern, and we're just about to go to break, but my other concern is they're gonna open the doorway for Elon to take this all over with one of his systems.

It's a mess.

What are we gonna do?

Let's give it to Elon.

Elon will fix it.

Elon's kind of net around

here.

Elon's on the trip with Trump.

Oh,

really?

Overseas, yes.

No, I thought they were breaking up.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Oh,

man.

Maybe he doesn't want him seen around here so much.

But Elon is still very much in the White House.

Yeah.

When we return, speaking of planes, we're going to continue our conversation about flying.

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There's been a snag now.

We'll talk about that coming up with Todd Alba after 9.30, so I hope you can stay tuned for that.

Didn't want to talk about flying since we started off talking about Sean Duffy, the head of the Department of Transportation.

And of course, Donald Trump has now accepted a free jumbo jet from the Carter government.

Perfectly normal

Pam Bondi said it was fine

Pam Bondi who by the way?

Oh, yes

before she became our Attorney General and before she had that office in Florida.

Yeah Pam Bondi was paid a hundred and fifteen thousand dollars a month by the cutter government to lobby for them for

what like I guess

ski cutter I'm not sure I don't know She was a lobbyist

for the cutter government.

And now they want to give our president a free jumbo jet.

Nothing to see here.

No emoluments clause.

This couldn't possibly be a payoff or a quid pro quo, considering that Trump just announced they're going to have a property in cutter.

No, no, no, they wouldn't ever do

that.

This is just, I mean, once again, Trump fans.

Make it makes how is this okay when the when any other president Bush Bush senior Obama Obama Roosevelt Couldn't accept gifts like this couldn't probably couldn't accept a gift of like even a cheap watch They have to hand it over to the gifts group and so they can register it Archive it as gone.

Yep.

How is this okay?

How is this good?

And it's not free Jane

Let's remember all right.

This is not a free plane because not just the fact it comes with the request and really the demand of influence from this plane because that's how this president works is Influence because you know if he wants my yeti cup I can give that to him and see what it gets me but it's gonna be refurbished to be

an Air Force One plane.

And who would be

paying for that refurbishment?

Don't tell

me.

Let's see here.

We're talking about the refurbishment.

We're talking about the upkeep.

We're talking about all the security.

We're talking about the people who have to work on it, the secret service who have to manage, and the pilots who have to fly it.

That money comes out of the pockets of Donald Trump himself.

I'm kidding.

It's the taxpayer.

Yeah, we would get to pay for those refurbishments.

To

the tune of tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars

over time.

And then after his term ends,

Assuming it ends it's gonna go to his library.

That's

what I heard.

Yeah, it's gonna go to his library So we're getting a plane for four years not even like three

and a half

years

not even for a decade

That's the different that's a different discussion, but yeah, this is just nothing, but I mean it is literally

Like, you know, the elephant in the room?

This is the plane in the room.

This is bribery to the nth degree, and you cannot make this make sense to me.

You cannot make this.

There isn't a version of this where they say, well, if the government of Qatar give it to the American people, no,

this

is a violation of the Constitution.

One of many.

It's a grift.

It's a grift.

Even, and this is what blows my mind, even Laura Loomer, the hard-right activists and Trump whisperer,

has spoken out against this.

Laura Loomer.

Folks, it's Tuesday, May 13th, 926 AM.

Write

it

down.

And Jane McNair is about to do something I thought that was never gonna happen in my life.

Jane, how do you feel about Laura Loomer's thoughts?

I agree with her.

Oh my God!

I know, Calvin.

That's exactly how I feel.

Here's her quote.

How are we ever supposed to see the U.S.

under the Trump administration designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization if the U.S.

is now going to accept a $400 million jet from Qatar to fly the U.S.

president and his staff around?

Calling this a stain on his administration, Loomer says, I love President Trump.

I would take a bullet for him.

But I have to call a spade a spade.

we cannot accept a $400 million gift from Jihadists in suits."

Well, I guess I would have toned down a little bit on the homophobia, but I understand the sentiment, and I agree with the fact that just that, even if there was nothing having to do with the Muslim Brotherhood, which maybe speaks to my lack of knowledge of who runs the country, but still, it's a $400 million plane.

Nothing to see here.

Nothing to see here except for the giant plane landing on our collective wallet

Well, and the other thing too now security officials are saying there would be all kinds of issues with going over this plane To make sure I don't know there aren't spying devices on board Well, that just is why would a different country do something like that?

That's what I'm talking about too.

It's it's it's not just the Okay, yeah, so as far as I can tell I just want to look at the bro the Muslim Brotherhood does not run cutter, but

Yeah, that's the thing is when they have an Air Force One built, as far as I remember from those documentaries I watched as a kid, it's built from the ground up, custom made for this country.

They don't just take some TWA playing from 8070, like let's refurbish this puppy and put some, let's put some up.

White walls on it.

We got a bunch of comments on the text line.

Jack from Merrimack Trump accepts a half a billion dollar flying palace from Cutter.

Can we say four in a monuments time from West Alice?

How is it that the senator who got caught with all those hidden golden bars and had to go to prison?

How is that?

Okay.

Then for Trump and his plane and jumped from West Bend, Hillary Clinton couldn't keep a $475 necklace when she was secretary of state, but Trump can keep a $400 million plane.

And the answer that is.

apparently so well we'll see how that shakes out we have news coming up next when we come back Todd Alba will be here stay close you're listening to matinee around here this is the civic media radio network

Good, good morning.

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a really fun segment called What's Worse, which is so good.

Todd Alba is here.

Good morning, my friend.

How's it going?

I am fantastic.

Jane, Greg, Kelvin, how the heck are

you?

Good.

Good to see you.

I really do love What's Worse.

It's so much fun and it's just so interesting.

What what people choose.

Well, I appreciate that.

And probably one of the reasons it's so good is I have little to nothing to do with it.

CP Chris Paul's is the one that writes all those normally.

Once in a while, I get to add my two cents.

But, you know, sometimes it's just a little bit like fun and crazy.

And then like yesterday, we did one, I think it was, what's worse, commenting on weight loss or not commenting on weight

loss.

That's so good.

It

actually, it actually, we have.

We actually had people call it and it ended up being like a more serious discussion about what proper how do you handle that kind of color called anyone had gone through weight loss and he kind of gave so I mean sometimes It's more thoughtful than you might assume but you guys know that's the fun part of radio You work without a net and he never know what's gonna happen next

it really was a great conversation though and so many valid points

I really related to, I went through a period of time where my mother died.

I lost my job and my mother-in-law died all in the span of like three and a half months.

And I lost 30 pounds because I just couldn't eat because I was so, I was a mess

and I

couldn't eat for three and a half months.

So I lost all this weight and everybody would go, oh, you look so good.

And I'm like, thank you.

I think I'm dying.

So that's one of those things that you really need to keep in mind.

You don't know what people are going through.

So you kind of got to be careful.

It's just about choosing your words.

I could, I could honestly, I mean, I had a podcast where we talked about these topics, talking about like body positivity, mental health and those things.

And really like, I went through something similar where I, I didn't, I'm saying, I take that back.

I didn't go through a very stressful period, but I lost a lot of weight.

And before I did, a coworker of mine is like, Hey, Greg, you don't need to lose weight.

Ladies love big guys.

I'm like, Hey guy, no they don't.

Then that doesn't help me.

But then I lost like a lot of weight, like.

significant amounts through Weight Watchers and hard work.

And he, I saw him like a year and a half later, he goes, man, you're looking so good.

And he literally walked up and he goes, cause let's, let's face it, you were kind of fat before I was like, ah, cool.

No dude.

No.

Todd, I can talk on this topic for a long time.

And you're right, it does get heavy because people just, we want the best.

We think we're saying a nice thing.

You're looking so slim and trim, you look great.

Well, what did I look like before?

Right, right.

So yeah.

So

what is today's?

That's why I love the question because I didn't write it.

But, you know, because we all, I think all the situation where it's like,

Do I say something?

Am I a jerk if I don't recognize

it,

compliment them?

Or am I harming?

It's like, so one of the listeners said, you know, I just say, you look great.

And I said, that's kind of where I'm at.

You know,

believe

it or not.

And I don't say it and people really don't.

Yeah.

Hey, it looked great.

Yeah.

That's that.

Today's, uh, boy, I should know that shouldn't I?

Hang on.

Hang

on.

Today's today's what's worse.

You got hours before this show.

This comes right

from United.

Right.

This comes right from the old United Methodist church book.

What's worse, guilt or shame?

So that's what's coming on today.

I'll have to think on that one.

That's a good one.

That's coming up today.

Two to four PM across the network on the Todd Alba show.

A couple of things we wanted to kick around though.

Todd, this is from Wisconsin Watch and the headline from Larry Sander with the byline reads, how Wisconsin Republican lawmakers tweaked the state aid formula to benefit GOP communities.

New analysis finds population tier formula Republicans crafted

to deliver more local state aid has given a bigger boost to red parts of the state.

Is this a surprise?

Interesting how that works, isn't it?

It is.

It's not a surprise, nor is it unexpected.

Yeah, I mean, we had Kelba Royce from the Joint Finance Committee, State Senator Royce on our show yesterday.

I know you've had, I believe, her on other people in joint finance before.

We're right in the middle of the budget writing process and it is controlled overwhelmingly by Republicans.

That's just the way it works in pastures when Democrats have controlled the Assembly and or Senate.

What happens is all the members of the joint finance, I think there are six from the majority party on the assembly side, six of the majority party on the Senate side, and then two each from the minority party.

So Democrats only have four people in total on the committee.

And so what happens is it goes through and gets written and surprise, surprise, Republicans are funneling quietly.

More money more benefits to their districts and in runner parts of the state then go to the blue parts now Governor Evers has to either sign that veto it or line item veto it whichever he chooses at the end of the day

But it really goes back and people who are around, you know, as long as I have been, which has been a while.

Lee Sherman Dreyfus, who actually was a very in many ways progressed.

He was the Republican governor who signed in the first law in the nation to protect LGBTQ folks from discrimination in the workplace.

So Governor Dreyfus did a lot of good things.

But one of the things, he was the chancellor at Stevens Point, UW Stevens Point before he became governor.

And he was famous for saying that Madison is 77 square

surrounded by reality.

And so there's always been this, this kind of fight between, you know, oh, you know, those folks in Madison and in some cases over the years, politicians have used Milwaukee and you know, you know, Tommy Thompson was famous, I think it was Scott McCallum, one of them towards the end of one of their terms said stick it to Milwaukee.

That was Tommy Thompson.

That was Tommy Thompson.

I remember it like it was yesterday about the stadium.

Yes.

And Tommy forgot that we were on the edge of social media and that you couldn't, you know, newspapers weren't the only way to gather information anymore.

And so we've seen.

We've seen this kind of battle between ideology, between the rural parts of the state and Madison and Milwaukee, the two central, you know, urban areas of the state.

And look, I plead guilty of back when I was running for office in 2004 in Southwest Wisconsin.

On this stump, if I recall, I said a couple of things like, you know, it's unfair that Madison and Milwaukee get disproportionate amounts of funding.

And I think there's a little bit of truth to that sometimes.

But I also think, if I'm being honest with myself from 20 years ago,

the population in those areas may require more more percentages of money to go there.

But when you're running in rural Wisconsin, it's a lot more popular to say what I just said,

say the truth,

or at least the whole truth.

So so I think this is and in fairness, when Democrats have controlled, you know, people may remember him, Wally Kanicki, when he was the Speaker of the Assembly, a Democrat, lots of money went to Milwaukee at the time.

So

Again, I think this gets back to having honest conversations that I wish our politicians would have about not just what benefits each of us politically, but what benefits us as the state.

And the reality is, I've gotten a little older and you learn things a little bit at a time, that if our cities, if our urban areas aren't doing well,

the rural areas aren't doing well.

And if the rural areas aren't doing well, the urban, we're all in this

together.

Together, exactly.

And we're talking to

them greedy, you know?

Yes, absolutely.

And the other thing too, though, I think, Todd, I mean, a lot of our smaller communities are really hurting, but there are many different reasons for this.

And I heard Corrine Hendrickson that we've talked to who has a child care center, and they were talking about

Unless we do something to support families in more concrete ways, small towns are going to continue to die.

Small, they're going to see schools closing just because they don't have enough kids to go to schools.

They're not going to have firefighters.

They're not going to have the volunteer services that these small communities need.

And a lot of it goes to housing, having enough housing and also childcare.

And if we're not gonna if we're not gonna fund those things it's not gonna get better.

Yeah, I Wish I had a magic wand that I could do something about this that I don't but I heard Karina on your show She was our show like she's making the rounds.

That's like this

great man.

There's a great spokesperson for

child care and and I and all those points you made her absolutely spot-on Jane and

And again, childcare doesn't affect just Republican households or Democratic households.

It affects everyone that has a kid, regardless of how we vote.

And I just wish there was some way not to take anything away from some of the protests going on across the state right now.

But I wish that we could take those things that are more divisive and let's have a protest just on childcare.

or let's just have a protest on housing, things that actually bind us together and leave all the other flags and everything else at home for one day, because I think if we were more unified on things that affect everyone, I actually think that could have an effect.

I was gonna say, you know, one of the things that we have, whether it's...

Politicians who are running for office politicians who are sitting in office even Joseph Peckie when he's running for the Democratic Party, Wisconsin I always want to know what they're hearing from people at the doors and they're always gonna be knocking on doors in the city or knocking on doors in the rural areas and those those kitchen table topics are the ones that connect us and There's always this and and both sides are very guilty of this is like, oh, you know, we don't we don't what do I care about farmland?

You should care a lot about farmland or what do I care about the cities?

You should care a lot about the cities because

this sort of, and I agree with you, Todd, is that these things that are like the most important that are on the chopping block in Madison right now are the things we need to be raising our voices a lot, and that's, you know, and if you cannot attend a protest or go to a town hall, you could always call your elected officials, and you can do that by going to myvote.wi.gov, be respectful, be kind, you're talking to an intern or an aide, but enough people,

call and tell them, hey, this is what we need.

That can tip the balances.

But at the same time, you know, the Joint Finance Committee just had four meetings around the state of Wisconsin.

I know in one instance, one person waited nine hours, nine hours in order to get up and make her comments.

And after they held these four things around the state and we found out that the top three things that were of concern to people were education,

health care and child care.

And then the Republicans stripped all of those things out of Governor Eber's budget.

So I would be frustrated.

And I really I'm thinking about going next time to make comments before a joint finance committee just to make sure that they all put their phones down when I'm talking to them because I have a feeling they're all playing Candy Crush because they're not paying attention to what people are saying.

that I will go just to take a video of that.

I mean, that is like, that would be magical because Jane McNair would be like the substitute teacher coming in and be like, boys, put your phones

down.

Exactly.

You know, I mean, that would be magical.

Exactly.

Put your phones.

I'm not going to start talking to you until you all put your phone in front of you face down.

And I know I have your attention fly.

Look at me.

I mean, honestly, I wish I saw more.

People doing that whether it's public comments or whatever when I see politicians on their phones I want to I just I want to see someone like a teacher just be just stop talking and I'm like what's going on?

I'll keep talking when you pay attention to me.

This is what you're doing is disrespectful.

I had a math teacher who used to walk around with a yardstick and slam it down in the desk in front of you.

If you felt if he felt you weren't paying attention, we need a little more of that.

I might

have a 12 inch ruler and she said,

settle, settle.

Exactly.

We're going to continue our conversation with Todd Alba of the Todd Alba show from two to four.

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The kitty got a grill edition.

I encourage you to stick around for that one right now.

What?

Yeah, you got it.

You got to do it.

Got a grill edition.

Kitty got a grill.

Talking about great segments.

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So I stick around for that.

That's coming up at the end of the show right now.

We are joined by our friend and colleague.

Todd Alba from two to four across the network.

And we were talking about the joint finance committee having four meetings and listening to hundreds of people and essentially throwing everything out that they heard from those people.

And we had a text in from Tiffany in River Falls listening on WLAK in Amory.

And she said, I called my reps last week about the childcare budget.

And here is the reason their staff gave me.

I asked them why they are stripping out over 600 items.

They said they're separating finance from policy.

They don't want the governor creating policy through the budget.

So they stripped all policy out and expect the legislators to introduce bills and create legislation in order to get things funded.

Now, you used to speak Republican.

Can you interpret that for me?

Yes, as a matter of fact, I can thank you so very much for asking J Matt turn

Uh, I'm oldest remember act 10, uh, when, uh, in order to pass act 10 while the Democrats were, uh, in Illinois, uh, Scott Fitzgerald stripped out the quote unquote policy from the fiscal matters because you didn't need the Democrats to pass the, uh, the, uh, policy part.

And that's all they got.

That's all they got act 10 done.

They separated it out.

So it's just, it's old parliamentarian tricks.

And, uh, my, my feeling is they're, they're salty.

And look, I,

I called this out on my show a little bit on the governor's creative veto pen last time around and went to the Supreme Court, of course.

We don't have to go through all that, but just on the education stuff.

Look, I'm all for more money for K-12 education.

I think it's terrible Republicans have underfunded it, but Evers got fancy with his veto pen and made it 400 years

by

vetoing out certain numbers and whatever.

I just think it was a bad look.

um at the end of the day and now so now as republicans are retaliating by saying we're not going to put any numbers in digits in the bill it's all going to be spelled out because it makes it harder for him to veto things so

You know, I think this is just another trick by Republicans and the JFC.

It was more disturbing to me, actually.

I think you guys talked about it yesterday morning.

I picked it up with Jack Kelly from Wisconsin Watch in the afternoon.

And that is, you know, forbidding certain things from being talked about in the next round of the joint finance hearing.

You know, it's like the old soup Nazi from Seinfeld.

No finance for

you.

No

bill for you.

That's just, I mean, that's crazy, isn't it?

Yeah.

Yes, and it is something that is done.

I'm sorry, but only by Okay, let me before I make this statement Let me ask you a question top has there been a time that you've seen where Democrats whether it's state or federal have in the face of criticism critique losing their power have changed the rules so drastically that it just looks like poor sportsmanship and sore losing because like

You look at, they lost seats because of redistrict maps.

They lost the control of the court.

I mean, they lost it being solidified.

They changed the makeup of certain committees in Madison, and now they're saying, well, Woodrow's not going to talk about those things.

I mean, this is just a group of people who are petulant babies.

Yeah, I mean, the honest answer is off the top of my head.

I don't know to this degree.

I mean, I think there's arguments we made when I was at Decker was his first name.

State Senator was late to like 2007, 2008.

He beat Judy Robson for the majority leader of the Democrats after they won back control.

And he was kind of a jerk.

He changed stuff in the state Senate, which actually kind of screwed over some people in his own party, actually.

So so so that's that's one minor example.

But I just think that that.

You ask a great question Greg in my personal opinion.

I think it's just that and Trivielson's talked about it on our show We've just moved on both political spectrums towards this zero-sum game.

Yeah,

yeah Everything or nothing.

Yeah, right and if you even talk to the other side, you're a bad

traitor

and I just don't think that serves

That doesn't serve the greater good, in my opinion.

Well, and this is a prime example, and we're not going to have nearly enough time to talk about this, but Trump killed this woke program and accidentally screws MAGA voters.

The Digital Equity Act, because it had the word equity in there, got the attention of Trump minions.

So now they're cutting funding, and that could eventually cut off millions for red parts to get them online.

Hello because it was called

hello foot.

Let me shoot

you.

Yeah From truth social out.

I hate saying that he tweeted out a truth social.

This is direct quote quote

It all caps.

Racists.

No more woke handouts based on race, unquote.

Now, the problem is, as Jane, you said, a lot of these funds were going to red states and Patty Murray, Senator Patty Murray, who is on the House Appropriations Committee, said, with Trump moving to block these funds, these states could now be denied thumb or possibly all of that money that goes to Red Stasca from Greg Sargent at NewRepublic.com.

Yeah, that seems like not a good thing.

because the word equity was in

there.

That again, that's where we just go into this bizarre world of word salad and killing things because of what they're called.

And it's sad, but never sad to join you and Greg and Kelvin.

It

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Today we're going to talk about names.

The most popular names in America are out.

We want to find out what you wish your name was.

So think about that now and you can join us after 1030 it

could be any name you want anything just FCC compliant But yes, yes, something

you

as a

kid or maybe even as an adult I wish my name was blank.

What do you wish?

You're you had been named.

That's after the 1030 news right now though We are joined by the owner of is it more or mor foods?

It's more.

It's more means mutt.

It means mother and Swedish

Mother

and

sweet, Tracy Morgan-Hernke is our guest.

Good morning, Tracy.

Thank you so much for joining us.

No, thank you for having me.

Now, from what I understand, you have a bakery and you specialize in gluten-free, which has become a really big thing in the last 10 to 15 years.

Yes, I do.

In the United States, it's become a very big thing in the last 10 to 15 years.

In Europe and other places, it's been recognized the way we look at it today or even better than how the United States looked at gluten-free.

So you are offering options for people who have like celiac disease?

Correct, correct.

So a little backstory very fast.

I was the first employee outside of family at the first dedicated brick and mortar gluten-free grocery store in the United States that happened to be on 6th and Lincoln.

So I grew up with the industry.

I worked for the gluten-free trading company in London, John, who owned it for roughly a decade and learned with everyone else what gluten-free meant in the United States.

How interesting.

I mean, and it's

Again, this has become a much more, the awareness has grown a lot in the last 10 years to 15 years.

And it's a great option for people again, who have celiac disease and who have other problems with grains.

But we've been talking a lot about small businesses and the uncertainty.

especially for small businesses.

One day, tariffs are 145%.

The next day, they're 30%.

The next day could be 15.

It's, you know, and in 90 days, it could change again.

So as a small business owner, Tracy, what kinds of challenges are you facing right now?

Many.

But I went into this year knowing this administration's focus on tariffs and tried very hard to bring in pallets of things that are now just sitting in my space, you know money sitting on a shelf because I didn't know what things were gonna look like in six months.

Will I be able to get them?

What does that forecast look if COVID taught me anything in this business is

try to prepare as much as you can on the front side if you can.

And

that's the problem.

You may not have the money that you can just have $2,000 worth of chocolate sitting on your shelves, waiting to put it into banana bread, very little pieces of it at a time.

So, but those are the things that I did.

And because of because you are gluten free specifically, the ingredients that you work with are already more expensive than say just your run of the mill baker, right?

Correct.

Correct.

I tell people that my base flour, which all of my recipes are multi layers of flour and starches in order to mimic what wheat flour has inherent to inherently so

And because working with Linda and John at the Gluten Free Grocery at the Trading Company, I saw a lot of companies come and go.

So when I started developing my own recipes, I didn't want to be beholden on any one company's one for one and then have it disappear.

So I bring in individual flowers on pallets and then we mix here in-house to try to keep everything as predictable as possible.

And some days, you know, it works.

And some days it's more challenging.

However, a typical on the industry side, I just received a flyer from restaurant Depot, which is nationwide, a 25 pound bag of all purpose wheat flour is under $8 a pound or for that package.

My brown rice flour for 50 pounds is close to $50.

Oh

my gosh.

Wow and something you said too is that this is not just stuff you can go find locally you're looking all over the place for these products and and I'm assuming looking outside the country for some products maybe and it always affects I mean small business of small business costs are always Gonna be a hard part of the bottom line, but for you I imagine it's even worse.

It's even more expensive

It to some extent yes, and I'm not bringing in things myself from other countries I'm trying to find distribution centers that are doing that already and You know so I work with people out of Michigan out of New York out of Oregon You know that's just for flour now.

Let's talk about spices.

Let's talk about extracts.

Let's talk about oils I don't use soy or

corn oil.

I use palmus oil, which is an olive oil because it's, you know, just cleaner in a lot of ways.

And so where are we sourcing that?

Well, it's not coming from the US more than likely it's coming from, you know, the Mediterranean areas.

So it's just interesting.

We saw an influx, obviously, with

COVID and then we saw another influx with the beginning of the Ukrainian war and Now we're seeing you know eggs and everything else that's happening and now we have tariffs to deal with

That's something that I've heard small businesses talk.

I believe we Time is an illusion and construct, but I believe we had some oh, it was it was Will Sue from the ginseng farm.

Yeah, we just talked to him It was constantly these these hurdles it was it was you know first trade war

Then it was COVID, then second trade war.

And now, I mean, I didn't even think taking into consideration the Ukrainian war.

I mean, it seems like every time small businesses are trying to jump off that mountaintop to fly, there's something pulling them back down.

And it is.

It's an interesting, I don't even like the term pivot anymore, because it's just duck and weave.

It's not even a pivot.

It's duck and weave, which what direction does that look like today?

or for the near future, and then we just roll with it.

So for myself and my customers, I started more because my son was 13 pounds at a year in failure to thrive.

He is not celiac, but he cannot consume gluten.

He was gluten intolerant before it had a term in the medical community, which is non...

So with that I also he had other food intolerances and so I stayed away from typical white rice flour potato starch corn starch and Mind you I've been doing this since the early 2000s So since then other items other flowers have come through to be like oh, that's safe and those sorts of pieces But for instance, I could not locate until just recently

quinoa that certified gluten-free that was less than $10 a pound.

So I was physically milling it in-house for the recipes I used it for because my consumers, my customers, which are our more family, I don't care if you order from us once, once in a while or all the time, we're here because of you.

And that's our purpose.

gluten-free is already more expensive.

Gluten-free for a Stoliac is their medicine.

And there's no discounts coming through your insurance company to be able to buy food that's going to keep you healthy.

So I try to mitigate all of those unexpected costs as much as I can for them by what we do in-house.

So I recently was able to find, finally, yay.

quinoa that I can just purchase and not have to worry about that here or even um flaxseed meal that I use because I have a lot of um we everything that we do with every recipe we try to see how far we can cast the net and how many people we can bring to the table because it's also about inclusion and being welcoming and feeling like when you go someplace

They want you there

and

we eat around everything.

We just do.

And

so if you are going someplace and you have a dry salad because no one thinks you can do anything else, yeah, don't want to go next time.

Right.

Right.

You know, so that's what we do.

So things like flaxseed meal I you know, I was purchasing it from the East Coast and now I found a better better version of it on the West Coast and it's just trying to Figure out what works the best in the products that we create and how can we keep our clients as healthy as possible?

I'm thrilled and willing to pay more money to find ethically sourced Palm oil

that is, you know, not wrecking our rainforest and all that kind of stuff.

So those are personal beliefs that I have that I'm bringing into the business and I'm willing to.

Go that extra mile to spend that extra money and figure out how to work it into what we do if you're just joining

us Tracy Morgan her key is our guest She's the owner of more foods which specializes in gluten-free products We got about two minutes before we got to go go to the break Tracy just to give you a little heads up.

I'm sorry to interrupt you What did you want to say?

No, I it's fine, but it's so

I had to contact another small business I worked with for packaging, and I asked her, hey, how much are the clamshells going for right now?

And she said, I have to raise the cost by $10 because it tariffs.

And that's just on the plastic piece.

I put the stuff in.

Yep.

And as a small business owner, your profit margin must be pretty tight the way it is.

Oh, incredibly tight.

So what we ended up doing through COVID, we had pre-orders like a lot of places.

We had some circumstances that led us to carry that business model longer.

So now what I have told my customer base, every week we offer a pre-order menu.

And on that menu are some items.

And if you order ahead of time, you help me with my budget.

I want to help you with your budget.

Therefore, I'm going to charge you less than if you walked through the store and just bought that loaf of bread because there's no waste for me.

Sure.

If

I can not have waste in both raw ingredients and employee hours, which quite honestly are the two biggest expenditures I have, I'm going to pass that on to you as my customer.

And so that's what we're doing with the pre-order menu.

Small businesses are the backbone of our economy.

They really are.

We've heard that so much, especially during COVID.

I think that's one of the reasons why Wisconsin fared better than some other states because Governor Evers was very specific about making sure that our main street businesses, our small businesses like yours, were able to keep going and stay alive.

Check it out.

We will include a link in our show notes to more foods.

If you need something gluten-free, absolutely check it out.

Tracy Morgan-Herkey is the owner and she has been our guest.

Thank you so very much, Tracy.

Really appreciate it.

We'll get back with

you in a couple of

months and see how things are going.

Okay, we'd love that.

Have a great day.

You as well.

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Thanks again to our guest, Tracy, joining us talking about it's got to be really tough to be a small business owner right now.

I can't imagine just the planning.

It is.

Yeah.

As you would know.

Yes.

So, and if you have anyone.

who would like to talk about their situation.

We would love to talk to them.

You can always reach out to us at janesaysatcivicmedia.us j-a-n-e-s-a-y-s.

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This shouldn't be a thing.

Please let us know at Jane says at civicmedia.us Real briefly before we go to the bottom of the hour news this from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel from John Dietrich and Daniel Bice Milwaukee County Judge Hannah Dugan's case expected to go before a federal grand jury as soon as today.

The 66 year old Dugan is accused of a obstructing

a U.S.

agency and concealing a person to prevent and arrest.

These have a maximum penalty of six years in prison and a $350,000 fine.

Sentences, though, in cases involving nonviolent offenses typically are much shorter.

You will remember this case.

It was earlier this month or last month, I believe.

A suspect appeared in Dugan's courthouse.

She was accused of letting him use a different

exit into the public area where ICE agents were waiting.

And then he walked past the ICE agents from things that I have read.

One of the ICE agents rode down in the elevator with him.

But when he walked out of the building is when they grabbed him.

So he is still in custody, which is good.

I have no problem with that.

I think the big issue here is the entire performative of the cuffing

of Judge Duggan, it was meant to shock.

Yes, it was meant to send a message.

Yes, to other judges.

Yes.

I mean, the whole thing was very murky when we broke the news on a Friday.

And by Monday, we'd already...

We had already found a more information, which was being reported in some publications versus others, because she literally showed him a different door that let him down the same hallway that everyone else walked through.

And as you mentioned, Jane, he walked past ice agents.

He rode on an elevator with some of them.

This wasn't, they weren't.

She didn't put him under his under her robe and sneak him out.

Here's a secret passageway through my chambers.

Right, right, come this way.

It was literally just saying go out that door.

And he was as exposed to the elements of law enforcement as he would have been through the regular door, I guess.

And also, and we talked about this with Jim Santel, if you want to go back to last week's episode, he talked about the fact that there was a different kind of warrant that was also presented as well.

Right,

right.

That has certain ramifications.

I'm not going to try to.

Repeat it because it's law speaking.

He's smarter than me But if you want to listen to more about that and I'm sure he'll be talking about that this weekend on Emma kiss as well But this is just this is performative.

This is this is you better watch yourself Yes, it's an intimidation against a judge and you know the Wisconsin Supreme Court swooped in and said we're gonna suspend your look your license to judge and to practice law People were asking questions about that apparently that is a very common thing to do as well just to make sure there's no problems, but

I mean, Matt Rothschild spoke about this morning on the show, and he said he doesn't even believe this is going to get anywhere, because there's no basis for what she did to break the law.

And she's put together a pretty high-powered legal team

as well,

including a former U.S.

attorney and a former U.S.

solicitor general.

And they issued a statement saying Judge Dugan will defend herself vigorously and looks forward to being exonerated.

Trump officials have said they routinely execute warrants and make arrests in public buildings because they know where and when a person is expected to be and they know that that person passed through security and therefore would be unarmed.

This is an ongoing thing.

We will have an update for you tomorrow, I'm sure.

But she's supposed to make an appearance or make a plea a little bit later on this month.

So we will find out what happens with that May 15th,

but what it all comes down to after everything is said and done and you know whether or not this goes any further than a grand jury They're arresting judges now.

Hey, I mean we already have evidence of them deporting individual incorrect individuals whether they are us citizens or persons who have their their placement in this country protected This is just

Absolute intimidation and this is the the whiffs of a fascist movement of we don't like you You're not American enough get out and we're gonna send you somewhere else to

What some have called concentration camps in El Salvador.

This is concerning.

We will be following this story.

And again, speaking of Jim Santel, he joins us now every Thursday from 9 30 until 10.

So Jim Santel will be joining us a little bit later on this week.

We have news coming up next.

And then we will lighten things up when we come back.

We're talking about names.

What do you wish you had been named?

I can't wait for this.

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This is the part of the show that we call Audio Sorbet, where we take a little breath and lighten things up a little bit and get away from the news for 15 minutes or so.

The angels have arrived.

The angels have arrived.

And so we're going to talk about names.

They do this every year.

We hear the top.

names for boys and girls in the United States, what's popular, what's not.

So the top 10 girls' names, according to CNN, are Olivia, Emma, Amelia, Charlotte, Mia, Sophia, Isabella, Evelyn, Eva, and Sophia, and the top boys' names, Liam, Noah, Oliver, Theodore, James, Henry, Mateo, Elijah, Lucas,

and William.

My question is, what do you wish you had been named?

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, 8-5-5-7-5-Civic.

Maybe you love your name.

Yeah.

And you're thrilled with

it.

Maybe it's a family name.

It's tradition.

It was inherited, you know, but passed down.

You have to be something the third.

Yeah.

That's great.

But...

I think a lot of kids, and I know I did.

I really wanted to be named something else when I was a child.

I did too, because my name, well, first of all, just for rhyming sake for bullies, my name is a cavalcade of trauma.

But also just, yeah, I mean, my name isn't a family name.

Gregory yeah, no one in my name known my family name that my middle name is my grandfather's name So that's fine, and then you know Steven Bach.

I already have an uncle Steve so probably wouldn't have happened but Yeah, I just and now you never felt like a Greg I mean I I think that I think the excitement of the name dictated who I became Because Greg as I've said before is of the man like you've never seen a movie

Like, every time you see a movie and terrorists have broken, the world is coming to an end.

We need help.

Call Jack.

Call John.

Call Chris.

Get Greg

on the phone.

Call Greg quick, he'll fix it.

No one's ever, there's never been like, oh, this character for the new Mission Impossible movie, his name is Greg.

Oh, he also works in accounting and he gets killed in the first four minutes.

And there's also rarely villains that are named Greg.

I feel like there's more villains gonna be named Greg.

Yeah, the closest I'm gonna get is when it's like Russian, it's Gregor, and that sounds a little

threatening, but if you're

Russian and you're Gregor, you're probably like, what, it's just, my name's Gregor.

What do you wish you had been named?

Maybe this goes back to childhood.

I like my name now.

Because now Jane is a unique name.

But it wasn't when I was a kid.

I grew up with tons of Janes.

Jane

was a

very, very common name in the 60s and 70s.

And then of course we had the Dick and Jane books.

And then there was also Tarzan and Jane.

I cannot tell you.

How many times oh You're Jane.

I'm Tarzan Yes, that's exactly the reaction I had and I I really really hated my name because it had no zip it had no pep No pizzazz had no pizzazz.

It's just plain Jane.

I just have I'm I'm I am I am not apathetic.

I'm indifferent at this point.

I am of

47 year old man, my name is Greg, it's not gonna, I'm not changing it now.

I tried Gregory for a moment.

No one.

See, I could see you as a Gregory.

But no one hooked on, no one would call me that.

I have a friend and his name will remain nameless, but he went by a nickname and it was a nice nickname.

It wasn't like shorty or baldy or it was just like a two letter nickname.

One day he said, I don't want to be called that anymore.

I want to be called my full name and we were like,

No, we're not calling

you

that.

It's too late.

You've decided too late and...

You've been branded.

You

went to Europe.

We don't care.

Okay.

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