Can You Spare A Dime...For A Parade? (Hour 1)

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Can You Spare A Dime...For A Parade? (Hour 1)

Matenaer on Air · Mon May 5, 2025

Jane Matenaer

and welcome, welcome to Matt Nair on air.

Jane Matt Nair, Greg Buck, Calvin Butenoff.

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It is the first Monday in May.

What does that mean Jane on the first Monday of the month we attempt yes To do a segment we call beyond the cheese where we highlight a business that is outside of the dairy industry and we love the dairy industry in Wisconsin We're very pro dairy go ice cream But it's just an opportunity to highlight other things

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because

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we have so many other little gems in the state That I think a lot of I I didn't know about this.

Yeah, and we should

support these people

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because they're

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here in Wisconsin.

So Mitchell Hoyt, who is the owner of Skinny Sticks, is going to be joining us.

And I believe we got this from Melissa K,

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our colleague

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here at Civic Media.

Award winning Melissa

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K. Award

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winning Melissa K about their maple syrup operation, which is based in Wisconsin.

So we're going to find out why it's called skinny sticks of all things.

when we're talking about maple syrup and how that whole thing got going.

And Mitchell was hoping to join us on the live stream.

We'll see if that happens.

He's actually making deliveries today.

Greg Bach

So he's

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going to be in his car.

I see.

So he said, we'll see how that my internet connection is.

Otherwise, he'll be joining us on the phone.

But

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Mitchell Hoyt

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will be here from Skinny Sticks in hour number two.

And then we will wrap it up as we always do.

With this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it's the Buddy Can You Spare a Dime Edition.

That comes your way around 10.51.

So I hope you can join us for that.

Wanted to start off though, just with a little.

Acknowledgement and celebration of our colleagues here at Civic Media.

Wisconsin Broadcaster Association Awards were handed out on Saturday night in Madison.

It's a big deal for TV and radio stations in the state and a chance to see colleagues and former colleagues and people who were fired and people

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who fired you.

I saw a lot of, this was my first time doing, I am very new to radio, but I, and this was my first WBA and this is what I saw a lot of.

the turning of the head and seeing someone who either you didn't like at your work, and this is not like us, I'm talking about like, this was a room full of like 200 people.

But that turning of the head and seeing someone you didn't like, didn't want to see, like seeing an action and you go, oh hey!

So

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and so, oh my gosh, what have you been up to?

Greg Bach

You look

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great, excuse me, I gotta go over

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there now.

I'm gonna stand right over there and just look out in the middle

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distance, sorry.

And if you weren't listening to the tail end of Pat Crichtlow show, radio and TV people are the worst audience on the planet.

We don't shut up for anybody.

It's embarrassing.

Greg Bach

That's kind of true.

There was at no point, even like, yeah, there was no point where people were not talking.

Jane Matenaer

No.

And it's great that we all like seeing each other so much, and there's so much to catch up on.

But you have a speaker, and there's big TV screens all over the room.

It's not like nobody knows the person is up there giving a presentation.

Greg Bach

I think the people running the sound next year should just turn up the speaker louder and louder.

Why are they so loud?

Because you won't be quiet.

Jane Matenaer

No, just let me be the monitor.

Let me be the room monitor.

Just a riding crop in your head.

And hit your table.

Greg Bach

You want a

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fresh one?

You want to keep doing this?

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Do you

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want to keep doing this?

Yeah.

Because I started shushing.

It's like, this is impossible.

There's too many people in here to shush.

Yeah.

So yeah.

Hey, fellow broadcasters, can we get it together and shut up for 10 minutes?

Greg Bach

You're talking like every other hour out of the day.

The sound of silence is a gorgeous thing.

Try it.

Do you ever do that, Jane?

After a show, you're talked out.

You're like, you

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drive home in complete silence.

Yes.

Absolutely.

All the time.

So my fellow broadcasters, it's something to shoot for.

But

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civic

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media?

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We did really well.

We won first place in 11 categories.

A lot of it.

Local news coverage.

Shout out to Melissa Caver.

Brittany Merlot.

Brittany Merlot took on three awards herself.

Maggie Dawn took home two and just.

Don Rosen

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across the hallway from RJN.

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RJN won two awards.

WAUK won an award.

And then we placed in, I think, 27 other categories.

Wow.

So, you know, for a company that's been around for less than three years, I feel like that is where, like the awards themselves, it is very much, it's, we get dressed up in a nice clothes and we high five ourselves.

Compliment each other.

Oh, so we're just so good at this.

We're so good.

Complimenting in the things we do.

When the industry shows that kind of recognition to a very young company like Civic Media, I think that's saying something about our mission and what we do and who we're talking to and what we're talking about.

So I just want to say congratulations to everyone.

Absolutely.

From Sage Wilde, all the way down to everyone else who's been doing the great work for years and years now.

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Well done, really.

Well done to our colleagues.

We got second.

We got second.

Greg Bach

For Matt and Aaron.

For Matt and Aaron.

Hey.

I'll take it.

Absolutely.

Yeah, Matt and Aaron, we are a young show, folks.

We are.

We are a young show.

We got more to do.

We're going to get our gloves on.

Next year.

Next year.

Yeah, we're going to do some road work after the show.

By road work, I mean, I'm going to get in my car and drive home and sit in the couch.

Jane Matenaer

But yeah, it was a lovely evening.

And as we had talked off the air too, it's, you know, we work with all these people around the state.

We don't.

We aren't often in the same room together.

So it was nice to actually, people that we see on Zoom meetings, and I'm sure a lot of people remember this, remember this from COVID when everybody was working remotely.

It's just nice to actually be physically in the room with Todd Michaels, with Melissa Kay, with Brittany Merleau, with so many folks who are stationed all across the state.

So it was a lovely, lovely event.

Thank you to the WBA for putting it together and we'll work on our manners.

for next year.

Greg Bach

And

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we'll see how that goes.

Wanted to start off with this.

This happened later on Friday after we were already off the air.

But the Wisconsin Examiner, Baylor Spears, with the byline, Governor Evers calls the White House border czar's threats over ice guidance, chilling.

Now, this controversy comes from directions that Governor Evers had given to state employees on what to do if ice shows up.

This is my understanding.

They are within their legal rights to do some of these, to require identification, things like that.

And it's my understanding again, Governor Evers simply took what is legal and gave it to his, to the state employees and said, here's how you handle this.

Should I show up?

There you go.

Tom Homan, White House Borders are.

and all around.

Good guy.

Essentially threatened to

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arrest Governor Evers.

Yeah.

He had, I'm trying to find the, cause he had a very like, you know, oh, way to see what's coming.

Like, why are you doing like, that is not a, like, you want to have a argument or a discussion, then call him up and talk to him or say, Hey, I'll have a discussion.

But like this.

wait to see what's coming.

Oh, cool.

Now you're threatening us.

Pretty much.

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His quote continues, you cannot support what we're doing and you can't support sanctuary cities if that's what you want to do.

But if you cross that line of impediments or knowingly harboring or concealing an illegal alien, that is a felony and we will treat it as such.

Governor Evers has already said he was not telling state employees to break the law.

should immigration officials come into state buildings, quote, a Trump administration official in not so many words apparently threatened to arrest me.

The goal of this guidance was simple, to provide clear, consistent instructions to state employees and ensure they have a lawyer to help them comply with federal and state laws, nothing more, nothing less.

But Republicans and their right wing allies, including Elon Musk, lied about this guidance, spread misinformation, they never do.

What are you talking about and accused me of doing things?

I didn't do or say fueling a fake controversy of their own creation This is in a three-minute address that governor evers issued on Friday after borders are Tom Homan made those comments.

So Wait to see what's coming I guess

Greg Bach

Yeah, that just seems really nice and doesn't make me worry about the safety of others including I mean just now as we're seeing with all of these, you know arrests

American citizens, you know, like they, they're, they're arresting people incorrectly.

They're shipping them off.

They're arresting judges because they don't like the cut of their jib apparently.

I mean, this is just turning into a thing of it goes back to what we've been talking about for over a year now, which is here are the goalposts.

This is what we're going to do, but we're going to change the goalposts.

Watch out.

And when do the goalposts not include you anymore?

When are you someone who can be disappeared?

arrested, accused, whatever it is, or at the very least, not supportive

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enough.

Enough, exactly.

The guidance sent by the Department of Administration, the Evers Administration, sent out to state employees, told them to stay calm.

If an ICE agent rather enters their office, told them to ask agents for their names and badges to verify their identity, ask why they're there,

Ask for documentation like a valid warrant.

That doesn't seem outside

Greg Bach

craziness.

No, no, you have every right to ask for the, for, what do they call it?

It's two words to do

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process.

Do process.

And then it said, state employees should call the office of legal counsel to consult an attorney.

So again, he's not saying, put a bag over this person's head and escort them out of the building and hide them and put them in the trunk of your car and then drive them to an undisclosed location.

That's not anything.

That just happened.

Greg Bach

He, as well as any good government official or lawyer or whomever is in this business, is trying to avail you of your rights in the procedures and the due process of these actions happening, just so you can be safe and know what protects you, who protects you and how to get that protection.

And what does the

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law say?

Exactly.

And what does the law say?

We're gonna move on when we return.

I wanna get Cindy in here.

Cindy from Appleton is on the line.

Good morning, Cindy.

Thanks for joining us.

Well, I was at the rally for the unwelcome Ron Johnson in Appleton here on Saturday.

It was probably about 150 to 200 of us.

And I thought it was very appropriate.

They had a chicken dinner, of course, for the chicken.

I don't think he even showed up.

Of course not.

No,

no,

he's in Florida.

Anyway, yeah, well, he was supposed to be there.

So that's what apparently what all these people came for.

But did he did he actually

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say he was going to be there?

Well, he was supposed to be there because it said on the invitation that Ron Johnson would be there.

Interesting.

Yeah, he

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doesn't

show up to

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anything.

What was the chatter like, Sandy?

What did you hear?

Oh, well, from all of us was pretty aggravated.

People are aggravated.

They're just, it's all about democracy and rights now.

And, you know, there were some cute costumes.

Oh, there was a woman dressed up in a dinosaur that said, don't let democracy become extinct.

And then there was an actual person with a chicken costume on that said something to the fact of chicken.

There's no eggs in Wisconsin because of all the chicken in Washington, DC.

So fine

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costuming and fine signage.

I

Greg Bach

always love that.

That's great.

Thanks a

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lot, Cindy.

Thanks for the little update.

Appreciate that.

Yeah, it seems it.

Rojo is all over Fox.

I mean, if I want to find him, I know where to go.

I just go to Fox cause I'll, I'll see Ron Johnson there.

He did talk to you was a Jake tamper over the weekend.

Really?

Let me look that up.

Yeah.

He talked to, uh, I believe it was, it was major network news over the weekend and.

I interviewed Ron Johnson once, many years ago.

Sorry.

I had to interrupt him four times because he, like so many politicians, they talk in circles.

Yes.

They talk in circles.

Yes.

And that gives them the opportunity to say many words without actually saying anything.

Oh, yeah.

He never answers questions.

Greg Bach

And he will do his best.

I mean, if you want a great example when Earl had him on months ago,

nothing but railroading and talking over and it's nothing but accusations against the Democrats or the worst people on earth and they cheat and they lie and there's no proof but he needs to get through the segment so he just keeps talking.

Well and he's really good at it.

He is because he just

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keeps going which is why I had to interrupt him four times and he really liked that a lot.

We will return with another lawmaker.

You just kind of popped up.

Where have you been?

Fitsie.

It's all coming up.

Stay close.

You're listening to Matt Nair on air on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Yeah!

Jane Matenaer

Good morning and welcome to Matt and Air on Air, Jane Matt and Air, Greg Bach.

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We were just talking with Cindy from Appleton chimed in.

She was at a dinner over the weekend that was meant for Ron Johnson and Chris Alfheim.

who is district 17.

District 18 18 district 18 texted in and said that Ron Johnson was there along with Tony weed.

She said I saw pictures.

Greg Bach

Okay.

Jane Matenaer

So I appreciate that.

Greg Bach

Thank you for the clarification.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah.

Thank you for the clarification.

I want to I don't want to I don't want to run them down if they were actually have the

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nerve

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to show

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up.

And honestly, thank you because I mean, there's no it's

It's very prevalent and very common now for them just not to show up.

And my experience of Ron Johnson says he's going to and he doesn't.

So the fact that he was there, all right.

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Chris also says it was a fundraiser.

Of course they were there.

Shaking hands.

Excellent point, Chris.

I think that kind of that was the swish.

I don't know if he's held a town hall recently.

Hmm if you know I would please let us know 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 But it just seems like Scott Fitzgerald once he got to Washington He's just kind of never we never see him anymore

Greg Bach

He had a town hall in March and we talked about that we played some clips from it.

Jane Matenaer

Thank you for reminding me

Greg Bach

people were like just

booing him and he had a real tone-deaf attitude towards where the tariffs were and and this is he was like the start of this whole thing along with a senator I believe from Georgia a Republican senator from Georgia went to a town hall and let's talk to the people and the people were mad so yeah that the 5th of March was the last time we'd seen him in public but before that he's not a guy who shows up a lot well

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he popped up

Over the weekend on WISN's Up Front, they get great guests.

And Matt Smith has done a really, really good job.

But they were talking about the fallout after the FBI arrested Milwaukee County Judge, Hannah Dugan.

And so Fitzgerald said there's been a lot of discussion with Chairman Jordan about that, talking about Jim Jordan.

I don't think anything is really fully developed to the point where Congress would be weighing in on anything specific.

But certainly it falls under our purview if there are some things that emerge for us to take a look at.

Scott Fitzgerald is a member of the House Judiciary Committee.

He did acknowledge the unusual nature of FBI agents putting Dugan in handcuffs and arresting her inside the Milwaukee County Courthouse.

Quote, I know the optics were certainly strong.

I think many of my colleagues that have seen it were wondering if it had to be handled that way.

Well, and we talked to Jim Santel, who is an attorney and a former US attorney.

And he said, no, if the suspect is likely to flee, then they do that.

Then they cuff you and they take you into custody.

If there's a high likelihood that you are not going to flee, here is the date.

show up at the federal courthouse.

And that's what happens then.

This was performative.

This was done for the photographs.

Greg Bach

And it was also, I mean, it's still going on.

And she has been suspended by the Wisconsin Supreme Court on from her job for the time being.

And Pat has talked about it, and we have talked about it.

If you look at the course, the chain of events,

There's not a whole lot here.

This just shows that she was obstructing justice.

So yeah, this was a performative thing.

And I love it when they say, I love it when politicians say, well, me and my colleagues wondered if it needed to be handled that way.

Well, then why don't you say something out loud saying it was handled incorrectly?

Oh, you don't want to do that.

I know.

I know.

Why show common just garden variety guts?

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Fitzgerald, former state Senate Majority Leader, this again from WISN up front, cautioned Republican lawmakers from moving too quickly, some like former Governor Scott Walker have called on the legislature to immediately remove Dugan.

Fitzgerald says, quote, I think they should wait.

You know, like we said, it was not premeditated, I don't feel, but certainly any type of knee-jerk reaction that puts a judge in a position where they've actually committed a crime.

needs to be scrutinized and reviewed at length.

It looks like the Wisconsin Supreme Court is doing that right now.

Thanks, Fitz.

Yeah,

Greg Bach

wonderful.

See

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you.

Thanks for showing up.

Six months or whatever.

Nice to see you.

Yeah.

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Ollie from the Northwoods on the line.

Good morning, Ollie.

What do you want to say about this?

Well, I don't want to stir up anything, but I just can't help but wonder

with all this coming after Dugan and going after Evers, if that doesn't have a lot to do with the fact that Elon Musk wasn't able to buy Wisconsin, and if they're not showing us, this is a little bit of payback.

Jane Matenaer

That's really interesting, Ollie.

That really is.

Would we put Petty?

I would go with Petty for this administration.

They would absolutely be Petty.

Greg Bach

Petty is nice.

That's a nice word.

Vindictive.

That's the word I would use.

Jane Matenaer

It's a little

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more.

Jane Matenaer

That's really interesting, Holly.

Appreciate that.

And Jean from Eau Claire is on the line.

Jean, you got the last word before we go to the news.

What do you want to sing?

By the way, congratulations.

You guys are doing a great job.

Thanks, Jean.

You know, this is coming from Scotty Walker, the guy who handcuffed elderly women for singing in the Capitol.

Why am I not surprised?

These are the people that use cruel treatment.

And I don't like that word performance because, you know, when I go to a performance, I want to see something happy or stuff like that.

This is God darn fascism in your face to scare the heck out of your terrorist type activities to hurt our country.

And it's just disgusting because all the world sees it to him.

What do they think about us?

Not too pretty.

But hey, keep up the great work and have a good day.

Jane Matenaer

Thanks a lot, Gene.

Appreciate it.

News is coming up next.

Stay with us.

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We're going to be joined by Mitchell Hoyt with Skinny Sticks Maple Syrup.

It's our Beyond the Cheese.

Try to do it once a month on the first Monday of the month where we highlight an industry or business in Wisconsin outside of the dairy industry.

So we're going to learn about Mitchell Hoyt.

and skinny sticks, and how they got their name, among many, many other things.

I'm looking forward to that.

Also, at 10.30, as we always do, it's kind of turned into what we call audio sorbet, an opportunity for us to all take a breath, little cleansing for your ears as we lighten things up for the last half hour of the show.

We're gonna talk about pillows.

Very important.

We're talking about pillows.

It's pillow talk.

It's not the fun kind of pillow talk.

Now it's flat and squishy or soft and puffy.

Where do you land?

I'm really glad you framed it in those words.

Where do you land on pillows?

Flat and squishy or a soft and puffy?

I'll even, can I

Greg Bach

open it up just a tiny bit?

Jane Matenaer

Certainly.

Greg Bach

Just throw also your bed preferences, you know, do you like a nice soft bed?

Do you like a harder bed?

Do you have a sleep number bed?

Do you sleep on the floor?

I don't know.

Do you pronounce it hammock or hammock?

I don't know.

But yeah, pillows, that's, it's interesting, Jane, when you bring up something for audios or bae.

And I'm not thinking about that at all.

You're like, pillows.

And I'm going, yeah, absolutely.

Jane Matenaer

You're pro pillow.

Greg Bach

Oh, I'm pro pillow, but I'm also

Jane Matenaer

like, I know what you want to talk about.

I understand.

Well, and this stems from this weekend when we were in Madison instead of the night.

So yes, at 1035, we're to start with pillows.

Pillows.

Flatten squishy or soft and puffy.

We will take your calls and then we'll wrap up the show as we always do with, this shouldn't be a thing today.

It's the buddy.

Can you spare a dime?

If you ever have a thing you think should not be send it on to Greg and me at Jane says at civicmedia.us J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S Jane says at civicmedia.us White House busy over the weekend issuing memes.

I really really feel like our the the White House social media accounts are run by fret fret bows.

Yeah, I do.

Yeah

They're 22 years old.

Wouldn't this be funny if we did this?

Well,

Greg Bach

they're not only run by, they're not only run by frat bros or like just infantile children, they're run by really mean people.

Like, like the White House Twitter page was never a hotbed of like gossip or anything.

It was just, you know, a statement from the White House.

A statement from the White House.

President Biden did that.

Even back in Trump won, it was just Trump won Trump.

President Trump is doing a speech now.

It's like this Like trolling vindictive.

There's that word again vindictive just mean spirited social media account where they're just posting the sickest junk

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, it's disturbing to know that that is our official White House account.

Greg Bach

Yep.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, that's ours You see this stuff go by and so it's like that must be a joke.

No, no, no It's actually the official White House account.

Nope.

So over the weekend the official White House account

posted an AI generated picture of President Trump dressed as the Pope.

Greg Bach

Awesome.

Jane Matenaer

I am not a person of faith.

I was raised Catholic.

I have not been a practicing Catholic for decades, but I have many good friends who are Catholic.

It's been interesting to see the reactions from this.

Yeah, yes.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

If you were a Catholic, did this bother you or not?

Maybe I'm overreacting.

And it's just a good chuckle.

And isn't that funny?

And oh, he's just kidding.

You know, he's president Trump is such a kidder.

But considering that the conclave to select the next pope starts Wednesday, it just seemed a little tasteless.

Greg Bach

Well, and also it goes, I mean, here's the thing is,

we had Dr. Lyrely on this morning, and she said, you know, in Northeastern Wisconsin, there are a lot of Catholics, and she spoke to people, and it was not just Catholics, it was people of all faith, people of no faith, who found the whole endeavor disrespectful to the memory of the Pope, because the Pope had just died, too.

Like, I think it was within a week, when that was posted.

Yeah,

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this was a couple days ago.

Greg Bach

It was within the first week of him being gone.

And also, let's not forget, and for all those people out there who are like,

This is the second time he has posted a meme or an AI portrait of himself as a essentially non-elected leader.

He had a king, he had the king one, which as we know is bestowed upon by God.

And now it's the Pope.

So like, it's not funny in the first place because it's disrespectful to the memory of

of

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it.

It's

Greg Bach

also disrespectful because he doesn't like, he's very, he's been vocal about, he didn't like Francis.

He has said horrible things about Francis.

And I take that as a slight against Catholics and he doesn't respect, well, he doesn't respect anybody.

So, and he just sees himself as this all powerful being.

Like it's not funny.

It's not funny at all.

I wouldn't find it funny if Barack Obama would have done it.

If Joe Biden, if anyone else would have done

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it,

Anyone, I don't care who it is.

It's not funny.

But if anyone else had done it, the outrage would be over the top.

How dare you?

Absolutely blasphemy all of that.

But when it's Donald Trump, he gets a pass.

It's a joke.

He gets a pass.

Have a sense of humor, Jane.

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Was this AI-generated picture of Donald Trump as the Pope offensive, or is it just a good chuckle?

Seriously, I would really like to know.

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This article in the Milwaukee Journal sent a note from Drake Bentley with the byline says the Archbishop of Milwaukee had strong words for President Trump making light of the Catholic Church's most serious mourning period, saying it was, quote,

Very unfortunate, unquote.

Are those

Greg Bach

strong words?

No, they're not.

That's like, bad bet, naughty.

And Trouble Park could probably call him a loser, because anyone who criticizes him is a loser.

Jane Matenaer

Milwaukee Archbishop Jeffrey Grobe sent in an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel May 4th.

I guess I find it to be an unfortunate thing, an unfortunate thing.

In my own understanding, just of what it means to be a Christian and a person of good will is to be respectful of other people's circumstances.

Greg Bach

Well, you didn't describe Donald Trump at

Jane Matenaer

all.

The church, Catholic Church, is in a period of mourning over the death of Pope Francis, and now it's a pivotal moment looking into the future, and it's a very serious time.

And whoever it is wants to quip and make fun, be it Christianity, Catholicism, Judaism, Islam, we've lost great respect for moments like these.

And so it is what it is, I guess, but it's very unfortunate.

New York's Cardinal Timothy Dolan, formerly Archbishop of Milwaukee, when asked about the image by reporters, Dolan replied that he hoped Trump, quote, didn't have anything to do with that.

Well, you know, it wasn't good.

Unquote.

Greg Bach

Boy, some really strong words from

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Catholic

Greg Bach

faith.

Also, he may have not created it, but he posted it on, he didn't even retweet it.

He posted it on his social media pages.

So it's not like someone else did it.

And he said, Oh, I like that.

No, he, someone gave it to me.

Like, I want to put that up.

He didn't create it.

Of course.

He doesn't know how to do that stuff, but he posted it.

He endorses

Jane Matenaer

it.

He endorses it

Greg Bach

100%.

And I'm sorry.

I was expecting stronger words or maybe even like something of a cuss in there somewhere.

But these are not strong words.

This is what you tell the rich kid whose father is bankrolling your school.

It's very unfortunate

Jane Matenaer

that Donnie did this.

And he shouldn't do

Greg Bach

it again.

Jane Matenaer

And don't forget, Cardinal Timothy Dolan has delivered prayers at both of his inaugurations as well.

855-752-4842 as a Catholic.

Do you find this insulting or is it just a chuckle and we should all let it go?

Carol from Waukesha, listening on WAUK, texting in, I am Catholic and I found it insulting and rude.

It was disrespectful to Pope Francis and felt like it was making a mockery of the conclave.

Thank you for that, Carol.

Appreciate

Greg Bach

it.

Alicia on the live stream says the Pope AI picture gave me some seriously bad feelings.

Jane Matenaer

Brian from Milwaukee is on the line.

Good morning, Brian.

Thank you for joining us.

What did you want to say about this?

Good morning.

Yeah.

Um, no, I totally agree being a lifelong Catholic to this is completely offensive.

Um, I have friends that do support Trump and they said, oh, can't you just take a joke?

And other friends, I know that our Catholic said, no, we can't, you know, what would happen if this was your religious leader or religious figure that just passed away and now the whole, you know, uh,

How can I put this?

The whole church is now in, in, you know, reshuffle as we look for a new pope.

You know, this is not a joke.

Yep.

You know, we don't get it as, you know.

Jane Matenaer

Yep.

I appreciate that, Brian.

Thank you very much.

Really appreciate the call.

855-752-4842.

Leave a comment if you're watching in the live stream on Facebook, YouTube, or what used to be Twitter.

Greg Bach

I think that, you know, I love it when they say something effective.

Why can't you take a joke?

I don't know.

Why can't you?

Because when the day comes, when Donald Trump passes away, you know that the world is going to be filled with disrespectful and terrible images of him and AI art that are going to be celebrating his demise.

And I'm not endorsing that, but it's going to happen.

And let me ask you, will you have a sense of humor that day?

Will you react well when someone says, well, it's just a joke.

Just get

Jane Matenaer

over it.

Just

Greg Bach

take it as a joke.

I would also like to just point out as a total nerd that yesterday was May the 4th, which is May the 4th, which he was a Star Wars day.

Right.

He posted another A.I.

image of himself as a Sith Lord Jedi.

Jane Matenaer

I don't think he meant to be a Sith.

Do you?

The big discussion is that it's a red lightsaber.

Which makes everybody knows that the red lightsabers were the bad guys.

Correct.

in the Star Wars universe.

Greg Bach

And like I said, he didn't create this.

I'm sure someone did who knew, like- Oh, he posed for that picture, come on.

It's a life-like painting, Jane.

Jane Matenaer

It's completely like just totally true to life.

Cassandra on the live stream says, Trump being tasteless, say it ain't so.

Also remember the issue with the Summer Olympics opening ceremony, yes.

Oh my God, yeah.

They thought they were making fun of the Last Supper.

Oh my God, the hair.

melting and the shrieking from people like Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Remember that?

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Oh,

Jane Matenaer

wow.

Greg Bach

And I remember watching people try to calmly explain to them what that image actually was portraying.

But man, were they just like, I don't remember a blue person being in the in the last supper.

painting myself.

But you know, that doesn't matter.

It was what it was to them.

And it was an affront to Christianity

Jane Matenaer

and America and

Greg Bach

freedom and freedom fries, Jane.

Jane Matenaer

Oh, yeah, it's just an interesting juxtaposition when you look at what they choose to be outraged over.

And then when it's something like this, it's like, oh, where's your sense of humor?

Greg Bach

Yeah, Jesus.

Jane Matenaer

Where's your sense of humor?

Why aren't you fun anymore?

Greg Bach

Yeah, my god, liberals are so downer.

When we

Jane Matenaer

return.

And we will return.

Greg Bach

Just like the Sith.

Jane Matenaer

I don't want to spend a lot of time about this, but there was a long, long, long interview with President Trump that Kristen Welker did over the weekend where he dropped some really interesting tidbits.

Well, we'll look at those tids and bits.

On the other side, stay with us.

You're listening to Matinair on air.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

We'll be right

back.

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