Our Brand Is Chaos (Hour 1)

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Our Brand Is Chaos (Hour 1)

Matenaer on Air · Tue Apr 29, 2025

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There was a meeting

in Richland Center

in

Richland County, which is Richland Center is Todd's hometown, talking about concerns going forward.

And I think there are a lot of things that a lot of us can relate to as we map out the next several hundred days.

Today is the first 100 days of the second Trump administration.

Next hour, we will start off with talking about that.

And we would like to hear from you what sticks out the most to you.

Yeah.

And if there are victories, you think there are victories?

Share it.

Tell us less.

Yeah.

And give us details and tell us where we can show your work.

It feels like a thousand days, Gene.

Doesn't it though?

It's only been a hundred days.

A thousand, a hundred thousand days.

Yeah.

At 1033, that's our audio sorbet segment where we try to lighten things up a little bit so people, we can all, I should say, take a breath.

And we talked about this.

I think it was last month or the month before we talked about chickens.

Good chicken.

And backyard chinkens.

And now you can rent a chicken.

I did not know this was a thing, but it is.

America, we have

to stop.

We'll talk about it later, but come on, America.

We're going to

talk about rented chickens.

And again, if you are raising chickens, and I know Angie from Monroe, because she called in the last time we talked about this.

I feel like 60 of them.

But there are things you need to keep in mind if you choose to do this, including predators.

So that's all coming up.

Next hour and then we're gonna wrap up the show with this might be the best one that Calvin has found yet We'll wrap it up as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing today It is the great Schmeckles of history

great Schmeckles of history Yes,

the great Schmeckles of history is coming up at the very end of the show around 1051 so I hope you can stick around for that as always if you find a thing you think should not be

outside of politics.

Otherwise, that's what it would be every day.

Fun and funny.

Fun and funny and light.

Send it to Jane says.

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Fun, funny, or Florida.

Oh, that too, that works too.

We could have a whole just segment of Tisbets, just Florida dedicated.

Maybe we'll get around to that eventually.

I wanted to start off with this though.

I guess this is a good thing today.

This is from the Milwaukee Journal, Sentinel Sophie Carson, rather with the byline.

International students at UW Madison and other Wisconsin schools see their legal status restored.

Yeah.

More than two dozen students at Wisconsin schools saw their legal status as restored after the Trump administration originally terminated their records from a government database.

This means that the affected students and graduates can keep studying and working here for now.

The status of all 27 UW Madison students and alumni whose records were terminated in the database have been restored to active Marquette.

Madison College and MATC also said the statuses of their affected students have been restored.

This was part of a nationwide reversal in policy.

There seem to have been several of those in the first 100 days.

And Jane, I'm noticing something.

Are

you?

I'm noticing a pattern with this administration with regard to how they operate.

First of all, I want to reiterate something we said when we talked about when it was originally happening, which was the universities that were literally shrugging their shoulders saying,

We don't know.

And we have no advice to give these students because it just on Sunday, they were, it was fine.

On Monday, it was gone.

So, but, and this is, this is in reference to something that Will Westmoreland said yesterday in her show.

If you want to listen to that conversation, go to civicmedia.us and look him up in the second hour.

It seems like when the Trump administration does something that is wildly unpopular,

Either one person or a group of people will complain, protest, be worried enough, garner enough attention where they will then take care of that group of people.

If there's enough noise.

Exactly.

Will Westmoreland, this whole thing, us coming to him was from one farmer in Missouri, who was a Trump supporter, who was having problems.

And we found out yesterday, he's been taken care of.

And he got it.

And what Will said was, he got his payment right quick.

It seems like everything that gets a little attention, the Trump administration is quick to say, let's fix this thing right here.

Well, it's the squeaky wheels.

Oh, absolutely.

It's the squeaky wheels.

You got to make a big enough stink,

though.

And I don't know that that's standard across the board.

Yeah.

As far as people protesting things and the Trump administration reversing on it.

But it seems to be that when something's going wrong that we've heard about, it's being fixed.

It's never this underground thing we haven't heard about.

Oh, they're taking care of air traffic controllers, you know, that kind of thing.

We saw this in the news.

They got, they got flack for it.

They're going to fix it.

And they say, we took care of it, everybody.

Well, and I think at least for me, my big takeaway from this first 100 days is chaos.

Yes.

Yes.

Chaos and incompetence.

And so many of these cuts by Doge coming in and firing all these people who oversee our nuclear agencies.

I don't know the ones who actually know how this works and know where the stockpiles are and all of those things and have the codes and kind of important things.

Yeah, the lack of thought and the lack of due diligence into what should be cut.

And again, they've just come in with this chainsaw attitude.

It's, that has a word in it.

I don't like, we'll cut that program.

This has another, we don't like that state.

Let's cut that program.

This

group doesn't seem important.

We'll cut that thing.

The state can take care of it.

We'll cut that program.

Unfortunately, most of those programs are state and federal working and concert.

I mean, when you talk about chaos, Jane, I'm looking right now at the Dow Jones index from January the 21st of this year, where it was 44,025 points.

And if you look at it, it stays pretty.

Steady for about a month for about one.

Yeah on the one month anniversary It starts to crater and crash and then we get to where we were last earlier this month on April the 7th where it was down nearly 7,000 points So it's about chaos complete chaos and also not to mention a total lack of Accountability absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely

We're gonna talk more next hour at this time.

Yeah, your big takeaways from the first 100 days of the

Trump

administration But that that is my takeaway anyway is the chaos.

Yeah, and the Dare I say incompetence because that's what it seems like and the fear that it breeds That's intentional The feet that the fear is intentional at least at least in my estimation.

Well, yeah

Going back to the student visas that have been reinstated, this is a nationwide reversal in policy by the Trump administration.

The Department of Homeland Security terminated more than 1,500 student records in the student and exchange visitor information systems in many cases for no reason or for minor violations like traffic tickets or cases that had already been dismissed.

And remember when these terminations went out, they were told what you have 10 days.

Yeah, you have 10 days and you have to get out of here.

Yep.

There's no, there's no month.

There's no two months, the end of the school year.

Cause you know that some of the, like my friend is here on a student visa teaching while getting their PhD program.

When she showed up, when I saw her after the announcement,

White is a ghost on constant tears because I don't know what's going on.

I have no and no one can answer questions for me

Yeah, because the government wasn't able to respond to it either no because nobody know that they don't seem like they know what they're doing.

I know that shocking Just the fact and again this goes to the lack of precision with which this administration has

dealt with things.

These students were not criminals.

These students, they were given no reason for this.

None whatsoever.

And now they're back with no explanation about why that was reversed either.

And they're almost kind of taking a victory lap too on it.

Like we've took care of this.

It's fine.

We're good.

The schools say it doesn't believe the visa terminations were related to any participation in free speech events or political activity.

The rationale unclear.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio in March had said the U.S.

State Department revoked at least 300 student visas claiming these students were lunatics.

And they wanted to cause a ruckus.

Oh, great.

My grandpa is in charge of things over there.

I just want to clear up a thing, too, is participating in free speech events, protests, things like that.

That's all protected in the Constitution.

Isn't that part of the First Amendment?

They shouldn't be held.

They shouldn't be held liable for those types of things.

If you think differently, then tell me your thoughts on the Constitution.

The records again have been restored for the time being for these students, but the administration says it's working on a new way to review and terminate those records.

Justice Department attorneys said in federal court last week that immigration and customs enforcement still has the right to terminate these records for other reasons.

Neither UW Madison nor the students were given an explanation for the terminations

or for those records being reinstated, it had previously said it didn't believe any of the determinations again were related to free speech or protests.

I don't like his last name.

Let's revoke his visa.

Exactly.

And what does, I mean, how many times we've been through this where it's action, harsh action taken, totally reversed.

Let's act like it never happened.

And also, the way he said it and the way you just, Secretary Rubio's words is, is review and terminate.

That's their goal.

They don't wanna just take a look and make sure they want them out.

That is the ultimate goal, terminate these visas so they leave.

Well, and the thing to keep in mind, at least from my understanding, these students pay more than US students.

Their tuition fees are higher if you're coming from out of the country.

Okay.

Just like not every state has reciprocity if you attend a university in different states.

And let's just throw a big old cherry on this pile of garbage.

They're doing it legally.

They're doing the process that you all who have a problem with anyone who doesn't look like you said, well, why can't they just do it legally?

Why can't they just do it by the way?

They've done everything.

They did it.

They fulfilled every wish of your brain.

But somehow,

But somehow not good enough.

And I guess we just don't want foreign students anymore.

No, because

what we don't

want their money.

We don't want, you know, we don't want them.

What do they even contribute?

Jane?

Sorry, I'm getting dramatic while I'm being angry, but it's just it's so infuriating to me.

The hypocrisy that goes into wrapped around a big old pile of xenophobia.

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There are concerns about tourism over the summer and what that's going to mean for the US as it seems like we are less of a desirable destination for some people.

This is from the Milwaukee Journal's Sentinel Ricardo Torres with the byline Port of Milwaukee, expecting fewer cruise ships this summer

Tariff impact on shipping also unclear.

This is a crucial time of year for the Port of Milwaukee.

That means cruise ships are coming to town with what the uncertainty of tariffs, international trade and foreign tourism, port officials balancing what they know will happen versus the unknown.

Now, the Port of Milwaukee has become increasingly popular, especially over the last five years.

I remember.

driving once and being shocked when I saw a cruise ship.

I'm like, why is a cruise ship?

Nothing against Milwaukee, it's just, we're not a big, big, big city.

And I think of cruise ships, I think of the Caribbean.

So yeah,

when I saw one, I was like, oh,

we're fancy.

Well, but a cruise along the Great Lakes had become increasingly popular.

So that's become a big deal.

And I think last year,

was the highest amount the Port of Milwaukee had seen.

I think there were six or seven ships that came in over the course of the summer, which brings in some nice cash for restaurants and bars and shops that are close to downtown.

It's not a bad thing.

This is a concern for all over the country.

This is from the Guardian, U.S.

to miss out on billions of dollars as Trump's policies deter overseas tourists

The number of visitors in March down 11.6%.

I

mean, this is apt, but it's just two people.

I was speaking to a couple that I know over in England, and I said, hey, you guys haven't been here in nearly 20 years.

When you come back, not anytime soon.

I was like, oh, fair, fair, fair.

I asked, I didn't understand.

But the way they said not anytime soon, I'm like, oh, of course you're not.

Of course you're not.

In this Guardian article, they talk about a woman named Cheryl, who Cheryl says she travels to Iowa from her home in St.

Kitts every year.

She usually rents a three bedroom house for her and her kids, rents a car, they go out to dinner, they go to local attractions.

She typically spends 10,000 bucks.

Wait, she's from St.

Kitts and

she goes where?

She's from St.

Kitts and she goes to Iowa.

Must be home base.

I must know that story.

Must be old home base.

No, not this year.

No, not going to do it.

The Trump administration's high profile deportations and detentions at the border that mean that Cheryl originally Canadian isn't coming back to the U. S. She says, quote, I don't feel safe.

This isn't even actually her real name because she's afraid of reprisals.

I love my kids and my family more than anything.

It's only feeling unsafe that's stopping me.

I am too old and tired to sleep on concrete.

I'm,

wow.

I mean, the newly chosen Canadian prime minister put it best, I think, or put it in very blunt terms, I should say, last month when he said America is a country that we no longer can trust.

And if she spent $10,000, usually she probably could look forward to spending between 12 to $13,000 this year too, with everything going

up the way they are.

This was supposed to be a bumper year for US tourism after a steep drop off after the pandemic.

The number of international visitors was expected to finally get back to pre-2020 levels, but not anymore.

A tourism research group said that before Trump's inauguration, they predicted a 9% increase in international travel to the US this year.

Now they're expecting a 12% drop.

That's not good.

People in Spain and Germany have been particularly deterred with 25% and 28% fewer visitors.

Now I can already hear some folks saying, well, good, I don't want to be tripping over tourists in my town anyway.

OK.

They they they bring in lots of money.

They

they once again.

They contribute to the economy and then then you're fine.

They leave eventually.

They're only here for like a week or maybe a month if they're visiting.

Whatever it doesn't matter.

Like everything you.

Everything you want to make America great again.

Those individuals do because when tourism booms.

We boom.

And that's what also can make America great.

So this constant thing you're talking about, Jane, the hypocrisy and like, well, I don't like it.

Okay, fine.

Then let your, let your town die.

President Trump has said the decline in visitors isn't a big deal.

Quote, I could see a little bit of nationalism at work.

Asked, asked if people were scared to come to the US.

Donald Trump says, no, we treat our tourists great.

There's nobody, no place like this, just apparently not this year.

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Number of things we want to talk about with you this morning, Todd, but I found this article in the Wisconsin Examiner from last week, actually, Henry Redmond with the byline, Richland County community leaders discussed staggering ripple effect of Trump cuts.

Now you are from Richland Center.

I am proud, proud Richland Center native in the Driftless Southwest Wisconsin.

I guess the thing that jumped out at me, Todd, because they were talking in this article about some of the Head Start cuts and Head Start.

Right.

And I think it's one of those programs where people might have some misconceptions about who uses Head Start and who Head Start helps.

But there are Head Start programs in Richland County that a lot of folks depend upon.

And within this article, they talk about the poverty rate in Richland County, which is much higher than I would have expected.

Oh, yeah, it's rich.

I mean, grew up there, you know, spent roughly half of my life, various degrees there.

And it's a beautiful place.

Great place to be from, still a great place to deliver work, but it is one of the most impoverished parts of Wisconsin for a long time.

It was Lafayette County, which is down just south, two counties down south of the Wisconsin River along Illinois border, which was where the poorest, not the poorest county, of course, Menominee County, where the Menominee Reservation is, just to the north and west of Green Bay.

Adams and Juneau County at different times, but Richland County,

And part of that is that it's challenged by geography because it's in the beautiful drift

list.

It's gorgeous.

But

there is no four lane.

Yeah, there's no four lane.

You were there last year,

Jane.

And there's no four lane road that goes there.

They took out the rail transportation years ago for the rails to trails program.

There's no boat.

So getting getting goods in and out of Richland County is it can be a challenge is basically trucks.

And that's it.

So that is inhibited industry from.

from coming into that part of the state by a large, and also politically, with the exception of my former boss, Dale Schultz, when he represented the area, was Senate Majority Leader, and you had Steve Freese, who represented parts of Richland County when he was Speaker Pro Tem.

Other than those few years, there hasn't been a lot of political power for that area.

They don't get a lot of funds from the state that way.

There's a lot of challenges there.

There's a lot of great people, a lot of great things going on.

I read the story.

I hadn't seen it.

I'm glad you sent it to me.

Wisconsin Examiner, a great publication.

I think there's a couple of important takeaways from that.

I did call our news director at WRCE, WRCO, joined crew lots before I came on the air.

She was at the meeting and she had a story on it.

She sent it to me.

And not only people mentioned the Wisconsin Examiner story, but there were more people there as well.

I think it's important to remember, A, my understanding is it

was organized by State Senator Brad Paff, who is a Democrat of La Crosse area, represents the district just to the west of Richland County.

And so the county board chair, Dave Turk, the mayor, Todd Copperdoll, were not in attendance.

I don't know whether they were

invited

or not.

And number two, Tony Kurtz, the state representative for that area who happens to be Republican, was not there.

I don't know whether he was invited or not.

And I think that's where the under, at least in this story, it went unreported.

I think it's really important for all of our statewide listeners to understand.

Tony Kurtz has represented that area in the state Senate as a Republican.

with former state senator, Howard Markline, both on the joint finance committee.

After redistricting, Kurt Keprichland County, the democratically elected senator, Sarah Kieski, now represents that area.

And Kieski and Kurt are working and attempting in a bipartisan way.

Our colleague, Phil Knee, has a local morning show there, said that they want to come on his show together

and talk

about bipartisanship.

So I think it is important to report that and let people know that

There is at least an attempt

by

new Democratic State Senator Kieske and current Republican Tony Kurtz to work together.

That said, the article of my understanding, the Wisconsin Examiner, all very accurate.

And to your point, yes.

And you guys have talked about this.

I know we have as well other programs on civic media that these Medicaid cuts, these cuts that are coming up soon here in Congress, people like Derek Van Orton, others are going to vote on, this is going to impact

our hometowns including Richland County and Southwest Wisconsin.

Head Start is a big part of that.

Yeah, I know my former boss, his wife, Rachel Schultz, was the district administrator of the Richland School District, the Morning Summer Breakfast Program.

over the summer in the Richland School District was one of the most highly attended because kids just don't have enough to eat.

Some parents don't.

It's not just homelessness.

It is under housed

people

who are living with relatives on couches and that sort of thing.

So there's a lot of challenges there.

And yes, it is accurate that these cuts by Trump and also by the Republican Congress potentially are going to have a real effect.

Well, and again, I think there is this misconception, Todd, that these cuts and these programs only help people in urban areas.

And that's why for some, it's like, yeah, fine, cut it, you know, whatever.

It's in Milwaukee.

They get all kinds of state money.

They don't need this.

Cut it.

These cuts affect all of us, all of us.

Yeah.

No, absolutely.

And the Kickapoo School Administrator, which Richland County has several great public schools that were kind of divided up out there, Richland County, but Kickapoo represents the northwest part of the county Viola area.

It's a great local school, public school.

They do what have a great theater program.

They have great sports programs, great friends.

programs, great music programs over the years.

But it's by and large people in agriculture and little villages that make up the Kickapoo School District.

And without those funds for public schools there, they are going to be hurt.

Like you say, the Head Start program.

And to your point, Jane, and we talked about this a little bit on our show yesterday, Congress already went in once and they passed

of the reconciliation bill.

And now the getaway was saying, well, I didn't really cut Medicaid.

which is technically true, because now they have to go back in and actually fund what they voted for.

And the only way you're going to get there is to either A, not give the big tax cuts to the corporations, or B, make drastic cuts to Medicaid.

So I mean, if you can't add your cake, political cake and eat it too, and that's going to have real effects on Richland County, Waukesha, Green Bay, Amory and everywhere in between.

Well, and we've talked about this many times because we will get accused of being fear mongers.

and all those things.

But the math does not add up when they talk about trillions and trillions and trillions of saving that doge is finding.

And then they're going to read in state this big tax cut.

And that money has to come from somewhere and two million here and two million there.

It takes a lot of those to add up to a trillion dollars or several trillion dollars.

And and that's why we say.

Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, those could be on the block because that cash has got us come from someplace.

Do you have a grandmother who worked all of her life?

Her fingers, the bones, saved up, worked hard like my grandmother did in Richland County in the last 10 years of her life.

She found herself in assisted living and ultimately in a nursing home.

She was fortunate that she was able to pay her way to the end, but she, on the last couple of three years of her life, she looked at my mom and she said, Linda,

Why did your dad and I do this?

We scraped and saved so we can leave you kids something.

I'm paying $9,000 a month to be here.

And the woman next door, her money ran out three months after she's here and Medicaid's taking care of her for the exact same.

service and so our programs Decentivize people from saving but the point is that my grandmother have to be lucky.

She had the state retirement system She saved you know like a chipmunk and and could pay away But most people can't and so and so when we to your point Jane when some Republican politicians say oh, that's the you know the quote-unquote welfare folks the quote-unquote lazy people No, actually we all know that there's very few of those folks actually around number one But number two these are our parents our mom

and dads, our grandparents who've scraped and saved, and now in the retirement, our veterans for God's sake, who sacrificed for our country, and our kids, disabled kids, who are on Medicaid.

These are our friends and neighbors and family who are going to suffer because of the lack of a foresight by the Trump administration and Republicans like Derek Van Orten.

I was gonna say, I think your grandmother did what she did is the same reason my parents did and my grandparents did is because the government said, hey, you work hard, you save up, you save up for a rainy day.

And he sold this idea of this is how it was going to go.

And, you know, I'm thinking now to when Derek Van Orton was once again, yelling at an expert who was just trying to do her job, saying, we're not going to cut snap benefits by one nickel, his words by one nickel.

And as Jane said, if you're going to find these savings, guess what goes first?

It always seemed to be the benefits and the programs that help those who are less fortunate or need help.

Well, and then I saw this yesterday, and we're not going to spend a lot of time on this, but they want to give the defense departments another couple hundred million dollars.

This is an agency within the government that hasn't been able to pass an audit for 20 years, right?

It's been more than a decade since the Defense Department has actually been able to pass an audit.

And I think if you talk to people actually in the Defense Department, people are men and women in uniform.

They'll say, yeah, there's some areas we could stand to increase, but you know what?

There are other areas we could find deficiencies.

So again, I'm not sure those those calls for increases are coming from men and women in uniform, charging charge of those other programs.

It's from politicians who want to look good to people.

Exactly.

Oh, exactly.

And there is there is just a lot of that.

There is a lot of this positioning on important things.

just just because just just to make them look good just to make them look like they're like they're actually accomplishing something

yeah i i i really appreciate you bringing this story up because

places like richland county don't get a lot of love there's some great people there the tourism director was at this meeting uh the examiner's story was talking about and he talked about the lack of of people who are that it's hard to find workers uh a rockwell automation a big company there isn't expanding because they can't find workers uh immigration plays in this uh people work on dairy farms and orchards that sort of thing so so all of these challenges as you said jane uh rippled down i'm glad they're getting some love would have liked to see brad path show up when the richland county campus was closing and we couldn't get them to the camp

but we welcome him now.

And you're, that sticks.

Better late than never.

Well, it sticks in your craw and justifiably so.

It really, you're not wrong about that, Todd.

Tony Everson

come out.

We begged Tony Everson to come out there.

We bred Brad Path.

Nobody wanted to come out there.

And very quickly, you know, Everson Republicans gave Richland County $2 million and then it's going to cost a million and a half to replace one bridge to clean up the campus.

It's ridiculous.

We're going to continue our conversation with Todd Abba, host.

of the Todd Alba Show 2-4 here across the network.

Derek Van Orden, we're going to talk about him.

When we come back, stay close.

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As we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today, this might be in the top 10 Hall of Fame.

Calvin found this one.

Today's this shouldn't be a thing is great Schmeckles in history.

Great Schmeckles of history.

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Yes.

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Great Schmeckles in history coming up next hour around 1051.

Right now we're joined by our friend and colleague Todd Alba from the Todd Alba show now from two to four across the Civic Media radio network.

I did want to share this real quickly before we move on to Derek Van Ordenen is very important endorsement he just got.

But one of our textures on the text line we were talking about.

town halls and who shows up and who doesn't show up.

Sue from Franklin texted this in.

My friend got this yesterday afternoon with virtually no notice.

It was a notice about a town hall being held by Brian Stiles.

And here's what it read.

Hello, this is Congressman Brian Stiles.

Sorry I missed you.

I called to invite you to participate in my telephone town hall taking place right now.

If you get this message within 30 minutes, you can join.

Here's the number.

This is Congressman Brian Stile.

If you have any questions, contact me.

So yes, 10 to five people are heading home on a Monday.

Hey, I missed your call, but if you get this right now, you can join my telephone.

town hall because I don't really want to see in person.

Sounds like Congressman Stiles on the political version of Grindr looking for a hookup.

I was going to say, I thought these guys

hated remote work,

but you know, but super

from Franklin says her friend joined this and it was useless.

There was a survey done, but they could only push a button.

with their concerns.

So there was actually no way to offer any actual feedback because they don't want to hear from their constituents.

Wow.

Just it's just sad, right?

Yeah.

I mean, I just don't as someone who worked as a legislative aide for a majority of my life, that's just foreign to me.

Both my former boss, State Senator Dale Shultz and former US Congressman Scott Kluge.

Well, I think maybe I've told a part of this story before, but when I got hired by Klu, the interview was really brief, but he said, you know, I hire good people and, and I let you go do your job.

But if you, if you mess up, I bring in and I knock you upside the head and then let you go do your job.

You get three strikes and you're out.

Any questions?"

I said, no, he goes, great, you're hired.

That was it.

That was the

entire

interview.

And so I only got one strike in my entire five years with him.

It was because I got behind on constituent case work, and he did not tolerate it.

And of course, he never yelled at me or anything.

He brought me in and gave me old dad, you know, Todd, I'm really disappointed in you.

That

is the worst thing.

And

I'm devastated.

I was mortified.

Yeah.

And so, you know, I had it cleaned up within a week and it never happened again.

But so I guess coming from that type of situation, I just the whole idea of not responding to constituents, not having office hours, not having true listening sessions is completely foreign.

And to me, unfortunately,

You know, the internet provides good things, but also bad things.

I think the fact that these folks can can live in their silos and in the whatever sphere and it makes it possible for them not and also the huge amounts of money now in politics.

They don't have to go out and listen to their constituents and and we've lost something in my opinion.

Yeah, most definitely.

We don't have a whole lot of time left.

I do want to get to this.

President Trump announcing yesterday.

is endorsement for Derek Van Orden for re-election.

Donald Trump says Congressman Derek Van Orden and America first warrior.

For Wisconsin third congressional district, Derek has my complete and total endorsement for re-election.

He will never let you down.

Derek, look north.

Is all I'm gonna say.

Just look to Canada.

And see how those endorsements are going in case you missed this yesterday.

Polliver, who was the conservative in Canada who was running against the liberal, Donald Trump had soundly endorsed him.

Yesterday, Pierre Polliver put this on Twitter, President Trump, stay out of our election.

The only people who will decide the future of Canada are Canadians at the ballot box.

He was leading by 20 points two months ago, and he just lost.

I just thought it was amazing that he came out on social media and said, would you butt out?

You are not helping me.

Yeah, I would say two things a on the Republican Party They have a riff right now with their convention coming up there is a more more even more super Trumpy sect of manga in Wisconsin GLP in Eau Claire Milwaukee in Brown County Scream Bay who are trying to out Brian shimmy as the party leader

right right I

think part of it is Trump trying to fend off the more if you call him moderate magas from challenging Derek Van Orton perhaps in a primary But also I think it also has a great fear that you know Van Orton only won what three four points last time

And especially in 2026, assuming that elections are going to go smoothly, we'll assume that for a minute, that Derek Van Orton could be in some real trouble.

Rebecca Cook is getting a lot of endorsements.

It appears that she's not going to have a major challenger on the Democratic side.

But I actually kind of hope she does.

I think it's healthy.

And I think it's too soon to say that.

But I think Derek Van Orton is in some real political trouble.

Yeah, I think that.

This is not going to go the way I I bet you he's waving his hand saying thank you president Trump up behind He's saying oh god no, and I think we I want it next time you come back to I need to talk to you more about this more extreme maga sector

Well, I'll quickly disagree.

I think that Derek Middler, not only does he drink the Kool-Aid, he makes the Kool-Aid.

But I think he's just blind.

I think he's loving every second of it.

Bring it on!

Yeah, you're right.

Join Todd this afternoon, two to four at his new time across the Civic Media Radio Network.

Thank you so very much, my friend.

We will see you in two weeks.

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Coming up after the 1030 news is the segment that we now call Audio Sorbet.

Well, we lighten things up a little bit for the last half an hour of the show.

And this is something that we did talk about.

I think it was last month or the month before when the price of eggs were super high.

Yeah.

But about chickens.

Yep.

And a lot more interest in people having their own backyard chickens.

Now you can rent a chicken.

I didn't know that was a thing, but it is.

We're going to have a talk later.

We're going to talk about rented chickens after 10 30.

And I know Angie from Monroe, one of our listeners called in last time when we talked about this.

And if this is something that you want to do, and I know there's a lot of interest in it, there are some things you need to keep in mind that you may not have thought of because Angie, Angie, it was, I found it revelatory, some of the things that she shared.

And that was the thing is Angie, if you are listening right now and you know about this.

thing, have this new industry.

This rented chicken.

Send us some texts with the pros and cons or give us a call later when we're talking about it, of course.

But we'd love to get an expert's knowledge on how people are getting into your industry.

Chickens.

Chickens, baby.

They're very popular.

Today is the first 100 days, the first 100 days of the second Trump administration.

And what I would like to hear FCC compliant, of course.

Give me the one word description that you would use to describe the first 100 days of the second Trump administration.

855-752-4842.

You can text it in, you can call it in, keep it clean, please.

Just one word.

Just one word.

What is the one word that you would use to describe the first 100 days of the Trump administration?

Greg, what would be yours?

Chaos.

Chaos.

Chaos.

Mine would be incompetence.

There you go.

And when you mix those two together, it's never a good thing.

Chaotic incompetence.

And I even, I was thinking about a theme song for the first 100 days and I couldn't help but find a tune.

Calvin, can you play a tune for me real quick?

It would be funny if it wasn't real.

Yeah.

Definitely.

It's not funny.

No, it's not funny at all.

But what is your one word?

If you had one, one word to describe the first 100 days of the second Trump administration, 855-752-4842, Dave from New Berlin, Arson.

There.

She's you on the live stream.

I will allow it.

She wants two words.

Hot mess.

Hot mess is good.

That's a good one as well.

That works.

We will continue this.

Uh, during this segment, again, the one word that you would use to describe the Trump administration version number two.

I'm not sure if you're familiar with Daniel Dale from CNN, but he spends a lot of time going over Trump's speeches

and

calling out which, I'll just say it, their lies, which things he says in his speeches are lies.

He actually goes from false claims to exaggerations.

to doesn't mention or wildly exaggerates.

In his latest article, however, Daniel Dale bluntly said, Trump's recent claims about the prices of gas, groceries and eggs are lies.

Over the last week, President Trump has lied about the price of all of them, using this repeated deception to try to minimize widespread concerns that his tariffs will fuel inflation,

No, the price of eggs has not fallen 93% since Trump came back in.

What?

That came out of Trump's mouth.

93%, which would mean, and again, I don't math, but aren't that eggs would be like a nickel.

So they were around $556, $5.50 cents.

Okay.

So we'll do that.

We'll do that.

$550 times .93.

So there we go.

All right, so we're gonna take 5.5 minus 5.11.

That means that they were 39 cents.

Eggs should be 39 cents.

39 cents, a dozen, not a piece, a dozen.

Yeah, that's not what they are.

Again, Daniel Dale from CNN, know the price of eggs not down 93% since Trump came back in office.

The overall price of groceries isn't down.

There was no state, let alone three states, where gas was a buck 98 last week.

The president has been lying about a bunch of prices.

He claimed that the dollar 98 gas, which Daniel Dale says, no, that's not a thing.

The lowest price in the US was found at a gas station in Texas at 219.

The average national gas price from AAA is about 317 a gallon.

There is no state average price of gas below 270 a gallon.

Yeah.

Right now, I think the cheapest, well, no, well.

On Friday, there's a gas station by the tap.

That's always the cheapest in Milwaukee.

It was 269 a gallon.

Oh, that's nothing.

The next day, it was 289.

Oops.

Yeah.

855-752-4842.

What one word would you use to describe the first 100 days of the Trump administration?

Jean from Eau Claire is on the line.

Good morning, Jean.

Good morning.

One word.

One word.

Bile.

Bile.

I think

Jane you said it perfectly when you referred to it as Trump administration number two

That's the perfect way of putting it.

That's one way to put it Terry listening on WA UK says destruction Roger from Stevens Point on the text line clown show Adam listening in Madison on WXCO.

It says despicable Dan from Wausau non empathetic.

Is that a real word?

I think it is.

It is now.

It is now.

Carol from Waukesha, her one word describing the first 100 days of the Trump administration disastrous.

Liz from Salkville says destructive.

855-752-4842.

Your one word, keep it clean.

To describe the first 100 days of Trump 2.0, Sharkey from Racine is on the line.

Good morning, Sharkey.

Thanks for joining us.

Thank you.

I'll be nice with this.

Please do but it'll be soft diarrhea

Is there enough

there you go?

Appreciate it sharky C compliant at work stew

Luke on the live stream says our Luke in the text he's telling us it's apathetic would be the would be the Empathetic, so I guess yeah, it'd be apathetic versus non empathetic exactly.

Yeah, I mean honestly Can you go further like?

It's not even, it's not empathetic.

They honestly don't, they want to, as you said, the fear is real.

It's intentional.

Therefore, the hurt is real and intentional.

They love, they love seeing people scrambling in fear because they don't know what's going on.

Because if they're scared, they don't know what America really is great about, you know what I mean?

Well, I just think that

I mean, we've talked about this with Andrew Watkins.

We've talked about this with other people.

Empathy to some MAGA is a sin.

Empathy is a sin.

Elon, our co-president, said that empathy is responsible for the destruction of Western civilization.

And

then the following week, after people were setting alight his

those dealerships and the cars.

He was saying, where is the empathy for me?

He literally was saying, where is the empathy for me?

I've done nothing wrong, Jane.

I'm just trying to help.

Jules and Mohseny says on WXCO is saying inhumane.

That is actually a perfect word.

Inhumane.

Inhumane.

Cruel.

Cruel.

I mean,

yes.

Cruelty.

855-752-4842, your one word to describe the first 100 days of the Trump administration.

Jude from East Troy, garbage.

Louise from Kiwani, criminal.

Jules inhumane.

Kurt from Eau Claire, bully.

Dan from Wausau, egoism.

The opposite of altruism.

Absolutely.

And again, Ronnie from Horicon, cruelty.

855-752-4842.

Your one word to describe the Trump administration that is FCC compliant.

Nora from Milwaukee is on the line.

Good morning, Nora.

Thanks for joining us.

Killing.

Say that again, Nora.

Killing.

Killing.

Yeah.

Appreciate

you calling in.

And I'll wait for callers and textures and live streamers to give us one word.

But I want backup on the environment.

We've talked enough about why we think it is what it is.

But I want once again to show your work.

If you think this is great and wonderful, why?

Why was it doing to help you, the country, anybody else?

And we've talked before too, Greg, that...

I do not dispute that we can find waste within the federal government.

I don't think anybody is disputing that and saying everything is working just hunky dory and it's all just perfect and it's all just great.

No, there is waste to be found.

It's the manner in which you go about it.

And that's why I say my word is incompetence.

Because this does not seem like a terribly competent administration, even though Donald Trump says he surrounds himself by all the best people.

Sean Duffy, our head of the Department of Transportation, was on Fox News this morning saying, yeah, we need more air traffic controllers.

Oh, glad you finally came to the party.

You just fired a whole bunch of people from the FAA.

And didn't you tell them that some of them are going to have to work until they die?

Well, now he's saying that I think we should, you know, how can we get them to work longer?

How can we get them to work longer?

From what I have read, air traffic controllers are required to retire at 56 because it is such a high stress job.

Do we want people who are really, really highly stressed to stay on for another 10 years?

Does that sound like a good plan?

Not at all.

That's why I go with incompetence.

I like incompetence.

It's funny because they're all so connected, the incompetence breed.

Breeds inhumane action, which just seemed like I'm it's a word play, but it all it makes sense and they're all connected another word shizu puts on there is Ruthless that too Ruthless is a wonderful word to I personally I Whomever said inhumane it just

Everything feels purposeful and mean.

We'll keep this going.

855-752-4842.

Your one word to describe the first 100 days of Donald Trump 2.0.

Stay with us.

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100 days of the Trump administration.

Today marks the 100th day.

What is your one word?

Keep it clean, FCC compliant.

Your one word to describe the first 100 days of the Trump administration.

Lots of texts coming in.

I love this one from Dan and Wausau.

I learn new words when I can't swear.

See, it's good for all of us, Dan.

It's good for all of us.

Vindictive.

Vindictive.

Jake from Madison gross Chuck from East Troy scammed That's that's an important one too because we talked about this with Will Westmoreland yesterday and before and you know the amount of people out there who are saying this is not what I voted for even though Really, he's doing exactly what he said he was going to but still there are people out there who say My business is being affected.

I'm a farmer.

I'm an immigrant.

I'm this I'm that people are being affected and they're dumbfounded the fact that a politician

actually did what they were going to do.

Well, and unfortunately too, it depends upon where you choose to get your information.

Because if you watch certain sources, you will never hear about Project 2025, which we talked about four months leading up to the presidential election.

And we had people saying, well, none of my friends know about that, so it must not be anything.

I love that that was the barometer of what is truth.

And now my friends don't talk about it, so it can't be real.

What is the one word you would use to describe the Trump administration 2.0, the first 100 days, 855-752-4842.

And from Chippewa Falls is on the line.

Good morning, Anne.

Thanks for joining us.

My word is heartless or disaster.

There you go.

Heartless disaster.

We could do that too.

That works too, unfortunately.

Thank you, Ann.

Appreciate it.

Laurie from Hayward Scary.

He also doesn't do math.

He said he was negotiating tariffs with over 200 countries.

There are only 195.

Details, details, Laurie, details.

Mary from Tosa, I'm betting my money on psychotic.

That's also brings up another you know this time.

Yeah, but this time last year We were getting really worried about where the mind of Joe Biden was the fact he was older this you know, there was undeniable Moments where you're like this man might not be able to handle another four years.

Yep Let's not forget Donald Trump's not much younger and is having these same moments night.

But as we said earlier, he claimed that

Eggs were down 93%.

He just picks numbers out of the air.

Yeah, it is absolutely crazy as Christine and slinger lives listening on WA UK says within all caps with exclamation points chaos.

Oh, yeah.

Brian from Milwaukee Tornado.

Yeah.

855-752-4842.

What is the one word FCC compliant?

you would use to describe the Trump administration.

2.0, first 100 days.

Tom from El Canto, thanks for joining us, Tom.

What's your word?

I would say trying.

Trying?

Not necessarily successful in everything, but he's trying to accomplish the things that he promised to the people that voted him into office.

Fair enough.

Do you think this is an

Do you think this is organized, Tom, the way that they're going about this?

Well, no, not necessarily, but I think that they're trying.

They're not sitting on their hands for four years already planning what they're going to do in the next administration.

They're trying.

They're trying to accomplish the things that they said to the voters that they were going to do.

To be fair, there's not really a playbook for that because I'm in my 60s and I haven't seen any other president try, you know, as they may.

They may make a lot, lots and lots of promises before they're elected, but then once they're elected, they're more worried about future elections and what they're going to see.

Yeah.

Thank you, Tom.

I appreciate it.

I really do appreciate you checking in.

Okay.

And there are certainly taking lots of actions.

I disagree with him on one point.

I think that Joseph Biden's last term, this past term, got a lot done.

He tried and succeeded and the economy and things showed for that.

So yes, politicians can say a lot and do nothing and they do worry about reelection, especially congressmen, but there is

proof to show that the previous president tried and succeeded a great deal.

Tom on the live stream, I think has one of the better ones as well says retribution.

Yes,

which he has talked about.

There is a gentleman who lives down the street from my mother-in-law who has a flag that says Trump 2024, the revenge to her.

Oh, how lovely.

That's exactly what we want in our commander in chief.

Yeah.

And we don't have a lot of time to talk about this, but

And this happened really quickly this morning.

Amazon came out and said they were going to, you know, when you look at your bill, and they were going to include how much the tariffs were raising the price.

Caroline Levitt said that this was, she didn't say treasonous, but it was close, a hostile and political act.

Hostile and political act by Amazon.

They're not going after them because Amazon has already capitulated.

They said it didn't even exist.

They were like, no.

Well, we were never going to

do that.

Never happened.

Never happened.

We were never going to do that.

News is coming up next.

And then when we come back, we will lighten it up, I promise.

We're going to talk about rented chicken.

That's all on the way.

Stay close.

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With this shouldn't be a thing.

Thank you, Calvin, for bringing us this one.

Great Schmeckles in history.

Stick around for this one.

It should be good.

Right now, though, this is the portion of the show we call Audio Sorbet.

Where we just take

a

breath, get away from the news.

I think we all need to break.

Yeah.

To laugh a little bit.

This from Harvest Public Media, Skyler Rossi.

Headline reads, rented chicken.

More people take a crack at creating their own egg supply.

Now, we talked about this a month ago or two months ago when the prices of eggs were continuing to do nothing but go up.

And a lot more people have started raising chickens in their backyards.

Who is it who said from the Trump administration they said, well, people should learn how to raise chickens.

I think it was the

agriculture

secretary.

Yeah, that was awesome.

Become

farmers, everyone.

Yeah, there you go.

We'll just grow all our own food.

It's going to be fine.

I did not realize you could rent a chicken.

This is actually a business.

I know buying or renting chickens, say experts is hardly a cost-saving measure, but people in the business say people are very interested in that home egg supply.

Rent the chicken, which opened over a decade ago based in Pennsylvania, opened

10 years ago, based in Pennsylvania, partners with farmers and cities across the country to rent backyard chickens.

Quote, we've been so busy this year we haven't even been able to compare numbers versus last year.

When we looked in February, we were already about 20% ahead of this year versus last year at this time.

Hatcheries across the Midwest that supply backyard chickens also say they are flooded with orders.

The Murray McMurray hatchery.

It

just flows.

Murray McMurray hatchery in Iowa sells about 3 million chicks a year to people across the country.

Typically they sell out about two or three weeks in advance this year.

They are sold out through October.

So wait, I'm confused.

They're selling chicks.

That's for people who are buying

chickens.

But you can rent chickens.

I mean, I'm really happy their business is booming.

Honestly, if I had the wherewithal Jane, I would totally have some chickens.

I would be hated, hated.

And your

dog would hate you too.

My dog would be eating chicken every

night.

Which is why you would have to have an area for that.

Yeah, but I feel like I already rent a chicken.

Every every what I do is I just go to the grocery store and I buy eggs Where someone else has got their chickens.

It's off-site chicken rental.

That's how I see it's off-site chicken rental Very simple.

They package them up nice and I like

that Calvin did you want a chicken on the chicken discussion here?

Are you down for this?

Are you

gonna are you gonna rent a chicken Calvin's chicken rental?

I Don't have any interest in getting chickens.

I if I was gonna raise

something like that in my yard.

I think I'd go a little more low maintenance like the bees we talked about.

Bees are not low maintenance, are they?

Well, you just set it up and then harvest the honey at the end of the year.

That is a probably an intensive process.

But what I was going to say about chickens though is I live in like a subdivision with pretty close lots and there is one of our neighbors who has chickens and they only have like two and I don't really notice them.

So it's not that big of a difference.

They don't make that much noise.

They don't really.

I think it's the roosters that make noise.

If you just have chickens don't really make that much noise.

But if you want eggs, don't you need a rooster?

No, if you get a rooster, then you're going to start having chicks.

Welcome to science class.

It's basic

biology, Jane.

I think the problem too is like, well, for one, I don't know why I'd want chickens.

My wife can't eat eggs.

Like.

They make them nauseous.

But

also, I think that even if chickens themselves don't make the noise, we have a dog.

Our neighbor back behind us has two dogs, neighbor next door and over each have a dog and the other neighbor.

So I feel like if there were chickens, barking is all you would hear.

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

And PJ on the live stream says bees are a lot of work.

I don't think it's just harvesting.

I think you have to go out there and do the things and blah, blah, blah.

It just seems like it's more.

Yeah.

He says he worked on a PJ says, I worked on a bar B farm for two years and below it.

There is a ton of daily maintenance on beehives.

I did not know that.

I mean, I'm all for people getting a little more farming, especially if it's for like, especially to make you some money, making your own honey, making your own eggs.

That's great.

It's just, I personally like, I just think rented chicken is one of the most American

things

that's ever like, Hey, don't want to get, don't want to buy this.

Cause you still have to have all the.

Well,

here, but again, you can get different packages.

Oh, tell me about the packages packages from rent the chicken.

Very by location in Omaha, Detroit and Milwaukee.

Yeah.

A six month rental of two hens starts at about 500 bucks.

So OK, well, four feathered hens in St.

Louis offers six or 12 month chicken rentals starting at $95 a month.

But you have to commit for a year.

The most expensive.

chicken, chicken rental package, Greg Bach.

The golden clock package is $190 bucks a month.

Okay, so that includes full care.

We'll come out, we'll feed the chickens, we'll change out the bedding and the coop, make sure everything is going smoothly, just so it's pretty much the family only has to collect the eggs.

But if you're going to be shelling out $190 a month for someone else to come and take care of your rent to chickens, then you may as well be buying eggs.

You hear that

folks shelling out.

That's the thing.

That's my exact thought is like if you're going to be paying that much money, why not just do it yourself?

It seems how much like at that point you have to be selling them because if you're just eating them, that's a waste of money.

Yeah, it's while you're ending up at the hole.

So how much are you?

How much do you need to make to make any profit?

Like you got to clear your costs and then make a profit.

How many eggs can you sell?

Every farmer's market has fresh eggs.

I mean

I can drive through Kenosha County and see stands on people's

property and just pull over

eggs.

So this, I'm glad they're doing well.

I really am.

This is great.

Their business model is working.

People are like, I love everything about a farmer, but not farming.

This is very American.

I just think

it makes me laugh.

It makes me

laugh.

A rent to chicken packages.

I just, I love this.

Dan from Moise, listening on WXCO.

It is a steep learning curve.

but I got three chickens last August and it's fun.

Lots of poo and probably not a money saver, but neither is making maple syrup.

It's really about enjoying all of it.

And that's probably the best way to look at it, Dan, is it's work.

It's not going to be easy, but it's the process that you're enjoying and the reward, right?

When you eat eggs that came from your chickens.

It's a labor of love, essentially.

And yes, farm fresh eggs.

taste way different.

They look different.

They're so, so different.

So I would, I mean, like I said, if we had eggs in the house, I would buy farm fresh eggs all the time, but I'm just thinking why would I have chickens in my house?

My wife would be like, what are you doing?

The one thing I remember when Angie called in the last time we talked about backyard chickens, if this is something that you're considering and even if you live maybe even more, especially if you live in a rural area is to keep in mind.

Predators

oh God and not

just ground to predators, but sky predators Hawks Hawks in particular.

She

had mentioned how she wanted to do free-range chickens I believe it was Angie

Yeah,

she wanted to free-range chickens so they could go you know wander everywhere They want

to and

then she would come out and all the chickens are dead Not a good no not good

I assume, because this is the first I'm hearing and I wanted to be like, is anyone ever done this?

Please, if you know someone who's done this, tell them to contact us and give us a brief overview.

Oh, I'd love to learn more about this.

Jane says at civicmedia.us.

I would love to know more about the gentleman chicken fama.

As well as beekeepers.

Oh

yeah.

I

think

that

would

be a really interesting, just to find out how much work is involved.

Do you know what we can do on our proposed possible trip through Wisconsin?

Maybe find a bee farm.

Great

idea.

That's a great idea.

We're talking about rent the chickens.

It is a thing.

More people taking a crack at creating their own egg supply from harvest public media.

You can rent a chicken according to different packages.

Rent the chicken based in Pennsylvania.

But you can do it here in Wisconsin.

You can do it here in Milwaukee.

That is.

But again, and again, you can.

And we talked to.

Fleet Farm Yeah, not too long ago.

They were sending no

farm and fleet farm and fleet

they were sending

chicks Yeah, but again, it is an investment and don't think you're gonna get rich by selling chick by selling eggs because that's probably not how it works But if you're thinking about it packages from rent the chicken Very on look very depending upon location Omaha, Detroit and Milwaukee you need a six-month rental of two hands starting at about

500 bucks.

I think actually this is, you know what I'm, you know, going back cause at first I was very much like, Oh God, I'm thinking about it now.

If you're someone who wants to get into it, this is a good stepping stone.

It'd be a glow.

Yeah.

It'd be rather than buy, right?

For six months, see how you feel.

Rent for a year because, you know, we've all done those things where you're like, I really want to do this thing and you buy all the stuff and six months later it's sitting in your garage.

Yeah.

John from Oshkosh ISS.

This seems like it started in Illinois.

Not sure about that, John.

Uh, this, uh, rented chicken.

is based in Pennsylvania.

They've been around for a decade.

Or was this a dig at

Illinois?

There it is.

Seems like a total poser thing to do.

He was, he was ranking us.

I like, I feel like this is a dig at Illinois.

Dig at Illegions.

Rent a chicken.

Yeah.

It's up to you.

Yeah, it's up to you.

I mean, I'm not doing it, but, but more power to you.

Cluck, cluck.

There you go.

We're pro chickens.

And

if you

know anybody who's a beekeeper, I'm very serious about this.

We would love to talk to them.

Send it to janesaysatcivicmedia.us, J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S.

Jane says, atcivicmedia.us, I know one of my sisters, her neighbor has been doing backyard bees for a couple of years.

And I guess I just did not realize it was, it's not set it and forget it.

No, no, I mean, I guess it's however much you want to be involved too, like you can do.

the baseball to work or you mean like I'm going to really like do it.

Do it.

I mean, yeah, again, this is none of this stuff is personally like it just I like the couch.

I like my TV.

And if I just said they're going, I have to take care of the chickens now.

I'm like, this is not the life I chose.

I just want a t-shirt that says rented chicken just because it makes me

laugh.

Oh, folks, we're making that check out the merch store.

Ronnie from Oregon gets the final word and out and alternative to chickens are quail.

They're small and

much

easier to deal with as they need a smaller cage.

All right, that's another thing we're going to have to look more into.

Quail raising.

Come quail away.

Come quail.

Oh, thank you.

And on that note, we will have to break when we return.

We're going to wrap up the show like we always do with this.

It shouldn't be a thing today.

It's the great Schmeckles in history.

Stay with us.

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you

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Coming up on the show tomorrow, last day of April.

No, it's not April 30th.

You're all liar pants.

April 30th.

Tomorrow, the last day of April.

Dr. Kristen Lierly will be here.

Our friend and colleague, and now she has a show on the weekends and Saturdays and Sundays.

Dr. Kristen Lierly joining us tomorrow after the 9 30 news.

David Drake is coming back.

You know how I love David.

We talk about birds.

You do.

Sometimes

I just walk out

of the room and it's like I was never

here.

I come back and it's like, oh, cool.

All right.

We're still talking about birds.

David Drake will be joining us.

We're going to talk actually about the endangered species list.

This is not a laughing matter.

Yes, yes, yes.

There are some people now within the Trump administration who think that, yeah, do we need this anymore?

If we just destroy all their habitat, does that really constitute

harm.

It's not like I'm doing it.

Yeah.

So David Drake will be joining us in our number two tomorrow.

So I hope you can join us for that.

Right now, though, it is 1154, Calvin.

That means it's time for

this shouldn't be a thing.

As always, if you have a thing you think should not be, send it in to Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us.

Calvin found this one.

Calvin, I think this is destined to go into the Tisbat Hall of Fame if there ever is one.

This is from the Guardian, Kim Wilshire, that lucky reporter with the byline.

Headline reads, historians dispute by you tapestry penis tally after lengthy debate.

Two scholars at loggerheads over when whether dangling shapes depict a dagger or the 94th penis on a specific embroidery

In

a historical spat that could be subtitled 1066 with knobs on Two medieval experts are engaged in a battle over how many Schmeckles

are embroidered into the Bayou tapestry.

Oxford professor George Garnett drew worldwide interest six years ago when he announced he had counted 93 penises stitched into the embroidered account of the Norman conquest of England again from 1066.

The 88 year old professor said they're attached to horses.

88 of them are attached to horses.

The remainder

are attached to humans.

However, another scholar now, Defter Christopher Monk, says, no, it's not 93 Schmeckles on this embroidered piece, it's 94.

Have I ever told you, Jane, how much I love my job?

No, not lately.

I am

currently- Look at what

you learned.

I was, sure, okay.

I was gonna say things I get to say on the air.

I mean, the idea is like they're having a, they're having a

Schmeckle fight here.

I just think it's great that

This is what researchers, professors are researching.

And it is a, it is a, you know, a foundational educated discussion they're having too.

It's not two guys yelling at each other

in a bar.

No, no,

no.

It's two men in tweed jackets with the elbow pads.

Hatches.

Really going back and forth to say, no, sir, 93.

A running man depicted in the border of the tapestry has something dangling beneath his tunic.

One professor says it's the scabbard of a sword or a dagger the other professor says no no that's a schmackle I am in no doubt that the appendage is a depiction of male genitalia The detail is surprisingly anatomically

fulsome

Could you imagine a guy on like a day site going, I'm fulsome.

Like, yeah, that's just not, actually, no, that's a great word to describe

yourself.

That is a good word.

The Bayou Museum in Normandy, which is home to the 70 meter long embroidery, says the story it tells is an epic poem and a moralistic work.

The historians both insist that beyond all the stupid jokes and sexual innuendo, their work is not silly.

This is about understanding medieval minds.

The whole point of studying history is to understand how people thought in the past.

They were not crude, unsophisticated, or dim-witted, quite the opposite.

What I've shown is that this is a serious, learned attempt to comment on the conquest, albeit in code.

Okay, Professor Chop, trying to kill our fun for one thing.

And second of all, I think we could have learned all those things like...

90 91 Schmeckles ago like to find another to find another one proves nothing more like we understand that they didn't wear underwear or pants and they let them they let their freak flags fly all up fine and the horses were excited about war but I think that finding one more doesn't make it that much more educational like it doesn't like oh I didn't know I did not take you seriously

until the 94th Schmeckle Jane they want to be accurate yeah they're historians they want to be accurate Calvin any comments on this since you're the one who found this

Yeah, well in the next paragraph it says, and the Bayou tapestry size did matter.

The Horstorian pointed out that the battle's two leaders ride horses with the two largest tenuses in the tapestry.

The most

fulsome,

as it

were.

Clip clop.

That wraps up today's episode of...

This shouldn't be a thing.

Before it devolves any further, news is coming up next, followed by Tom Hartman.

Sorry, Tom.

From 11 to two, Todd Alba from two to four, Maggie Dawn, four to six, and Pete Schwabber wraps it up from six to eight PM.

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Coming up after the 930 News, our friend.

colleague and host of the Todd all of us show now from 2 to 4 p.m.

across the network Todd's gonna join us after the 9 30 news there was a meeting in Richland Center in Richland County which is Richland Center is Todd's hometown talking about concerns going forward and I think there are a lot of things that a lot of us can relate to as we map out the next several hundred days today is the first 100 days

of the second Trump administration next hour, we will start off with talking about that.

And we would like to hear from you what sticks out the most to you.

Yeah.

Greg Bach

And if there are victories, you think there are victories?

Jane Matenaer

Share it.

Tell us, Liz.

Yeah.

Greg Bach

And give us details.

And tell us where we can show your work.

It feels like 1,000 days, Gene.

Doesn't it, though?

It's only

Jane Matenaer

been 100

Greg Bach

days.

100,000 days.

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

At 10.33, that's our audio sorbet segment where we try to lighten things up a little bit so people, we can all, I should say, take a breath.

And we talked about this, I think it was last month or the month before we talked about chickens.

Good chicken.

And backyard chinkens.

And now you can rent a chicken.

I did not know this was a thing, but it is.

America, we have to stop.

We'll talk

Greg Bach

about it later, but come on,

Jane Matenaer

America.

We're going to talk about rented chickens.

And again, if you are raising chickens, and I know Angie from Monroe, because she called in the last time we talked about this.

Greg Bach

I feel like 60 of them.

Jane Matenaer

But there are things you need to keep in mind if you choose to do this, including predators.

So that's all coming up.

Next hour and then we're gonna wrap up the show with this might be the best one that Calvin has found yet We'll wrap it up as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing today It is the great Schmeckles of history

Greg Bach

great Schmeckles of history Yes,

Jane Matenaer

the great Schmeckles of history is coming up at the very end of the show around 1051 so I hope you can stick around for that as always if you find a thing you think should not be

Outside of politics, otherwise that's what it would be every day.

Fun and funny.

Fun and funny and light.

Send it to Jane says.

J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S.

Jane says at civicmedia.us.

The guidelines for what you want to send us.

Fun, funny, or Florida.

Oh, that too, that works too.

We could have a whole just segment of Tisbets, just Florida dedicated.

Maybe we'll get around to that eventually.

I wanted to start off with this though.

I guess this is a good thing today.

This is from the Milwaukee Journal, Sentinel Sophie Carson, rather with the byline.

International students at UW Madison and other Wisconsin schools see their legal status restored.

More than two dozen students at Wisconsin schools saw their legal status as restored after the Trump administration originally terminated their records from a government database.

This means that the affected students and graduates can keep studying and working here for now.

The status of all 27 UW Madison students and alumni whose records were terminated in the database have been restored to active Marquette.

Madison College and MATC also said the statuses of their affected students have been restored.

This was part of a nationwide reversal in policy.

There seem to have been several of those in the first 100 days.

Greg Bach

And Jane, I'm noticing something.

Jane Matenaer

Are you?

Greg Bach

I'm noticing a pattern with this administration with regard to how they operate.

First of all, I want to reiterate something we said when we talked about when it was originally happening, which was the universities that were literally shrugging their shoulders saying,

We don't know.

And we have no advice to give these students because it just on Sunday, they were, it was fine.

On Monday, it was gone.

So, but, and this is, this is in reference to something that Will Westmoreland said yesterday in her show.

If you want to listen to that conversation, go to civicmedia.us and look him up in the second hour.

It seems like when the Trump administration does something that is wildly unpopular,

Either one person or a group of people will complain, protest, be worried enough, garner enough attention where they will then take care of that group of people.

If

Jane Matenaer

there's enough noise.

Exactly.

Greg Bach

Will Westmoreland, this whole thing, us coming to him was from one farmer in Missouri, who was a Trump supporter, who was having problems.

And we found out yesterday, he's been taken care of.

And he got it.

And what Will said was, he got his payment right quick.

It seems like everything that gets a little attention, the Trump administration is quick to say, let's fix this thing right here.

Well, it's the squeaky wheels.

Jane Matenaer

Oh, absolutely.

It's the squeaky wheels.

You got to make a big enough stink, though.

And I don't know that that's standard across the board.

Yeah.

As far as people protesting things and the Trump administration reversing on it.

Greg Bach

But it seems to be that when something's going wrong that we've heard about, it's being fixed.

It's never this underground thing we haven't heard about.

Oh, they're taking care of air traffic controllers, you know, that kind of thing.

We saw this in the news.

They got, they got flack for it.

They're going to fix it.

And they say, we took care of it, everybody.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and I think at least for me, my big takeaway from this first 100 days is chaos.

Yes.

Yes.

Chaos and incompetence.

And so many of these cuts by Doge coming in and firing all these people who oversee our nuclear agencies.

I don't know the ones who actually know how this works and know where the stockpiles are and all of those things and have the codes and kind of important things.

Yeah, it the lack of thought and the lack of due diligence into what should be cut.

And again, they've just come in with this chainsaw attitude.

Yeah, it's that has a word in it.

I don't like we'll cut that program.

This has another we don't like that state.

Let's cut that program.

This

Greg Bach

group doesn't seem important.

Jane Matenaer

We'll cut that thing.

The

Greg Bach

state can take care of it.

We'll cut that program.

Unfortunately, most of those programs are state and federal working and concert.

I mean, when you talk about chaos, Jane, I'm looking right now at the Dow Jones index from January the 21st of this year, where it was 44,025 points.

And if you look at it, it stays pretty.

Steady for about a month for about one.

Yeah on the one month anniversary It starts to crater and crash and then we get to where we were last earlier this month on April the 7th where it was down nearly 7,000 points So it's about chaos complete chaos and also not to mention a total lack of Accountability

Jane Matenaer

absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely

We're gonna talk more next hour at this time.

Yeah, your big takeaways from the first 100 days of the

Todd Allbaugh

Trump

Jane Matenaer

administration But that that is my takeaway anyway is the chaos.

Yeah, and the Dare I say incompetence because that's what it seems like and the fear that it breeds That's intentional The feet that the fear is intentional at least at least in my estimation.

Well, yeah

Going back to the student visas that have been reinstated, this is a nationwide reversal in policy by the Trump administration.

The Department of Homeland Security terminated more than 1,500 student records in the student and exchange visitor information systems in many cases for no reason or for minor violations like traffic tickets or cases that had already been dismissed.

And remember when these terminations went out, they were told what you have 10 days.

Yeah, you have 10 days and you have to get out of here.

Greg Bach

Yep.

There's no, there's no month.

There's no two months, the end of the school year.

Cause you know that some of the, like my friend is here on a student visa teaching while getting their PhD program.

When she showed up, when I saw her after the announcement,

White is a ghost on constant tears because I don't know what's going on.

I have no and no one can answer questions for me

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, because the government wasn't able to respond to it either no because nobody know that they don't seem like they know what they're doing.

I know that shocking Just the fact and again this goes to the lack of precision with which this administration has

dealt with things.

These students were not criminals.

These students, they were given no reason for this.

None whatsoever.

And now they're back with no explanation about why that was reversed either.

And they're

Greg Bach

almost kind of taking a victory lap too on it.

Like we've took care of this.

It's fine.

We're good.

Jane Matenaer

The schools say it doesn't believe the visa terminations were related to any participation in free speech events or political activity.

The rationale unclear.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio in March had said the U.S.

State Department revoked at least 300 student visas claiming these students were lunatics.

And they wanted to cause a ruckus.

Oh, great.

Greg Bach

My grandpa is in charge of things over there.

I just want to clear up a thing, too, is participating in free speech events, protests, things like that.

That's all protected in the Constitution.

Jane Matenaer

Isn't

Greg Bach

that part of the First Amendment?

They shouldn't be held.

They shouldn't be held liable for those types of things.

If you think differently, then tell me your thoughts on the Constitution.

Jane Matenaer

The records again have been restored for the time being for these students, but the administration says it's working on a new way to review and terminate those

records.

Jane Matenaer

Justice Department attorneys said in federal court last week that immigration and customs enforcement still has the right to terminate these records for other reasons.

Neither UW Madison nor the students were given an explanation for the terminations

or for those records being reinstated, it had previously said it didn't believe any of the determinations again were related to free speech or protests.

I don't like his last name.

Let's revoke his visa.

Greg Bach

Exactly.

And what does, I mean, how many times we've been through this where it's action, harsh action taken, totally reversed.

Let's act like it never happened.

And also the way he said it and the way you just, Secretary Rubio's words is, is review and terminate.

That's their goal.

They don't want to just take a look and make sure they want them out.

That is the ultimate goal, terminate these visas so they leave.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and the thing to keep in mind, at least from my understanding, these students pay more than US students.

Their tuition fees are higher if you're coming from out of the country.

Okay.

Just like not every state has reciprocity if you attend a university in different states.

Greg Bach

And let's just throw a big old cherry on this pile of garbage.

They're doing it legally.

They're doing the process that you all who have a problem with anyone who doesn't look like you said, well, why can't they just do it legally?

Why can't they just do it by the way?

They've done everything.

They did it.

They fulfilled every wish of your brain.

But somehow,

But somehow not good enough.

Jane Matenaer

And I guess we just don't want foreign students anymore.

No, because we don't want their money.

We don't want, you know, we don't want them.

Greg Bach

What do they even contribute, Jane?

Sorry, I'm getting dramatic while I'm being angry.

But it's just it's so infuriating to me.

The hypocrisy that goes into wrapped around a big old pile of xenophobia.

Jane Matenaer

Coming up later on the show, great Schmeckles in history.

So.

Stick around for that.

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This is from the Milwaukee Journal's Sentinel Ricardo Torres with the byline Port of Milwaukee, expecting fewer cruise ships this summer

Tariff impact on shipping also unclear.

This is a crucial time of year for the Port of Milwaukee.

That means cruise ships are coming to town with what the uncertainty of tariffs, international trade and foreign tourism, port officials balancing what they know will happen versus the unknown.

Now, the Port of Milwaukee has become increasingly popular, especially over the last five years.

Greg Bach

I remember.

driving once and being shocked when I saw a cruise ship.

I'm like, why is a cruise ship?

I mean, nothing against Milwaukee.

It's just, we're not a big, big, big city.

And I think of cruise ships, I think of the Caribbean.

Jane Matenaer

So yeah, when

Greg Bach

I saw what I was like, I was like, oh, we're,

Jane Matenaer

we're fancy.

Well, but a cruise is along, along the Great Lakes had become increasingly popular.

So that's become a big deal.

And I think last year,

was the highest amount the Port of Milwaukee had seen.

I think there were six or seven ships that came in over the course of the summer, which brings in some nice cash for restaurants and bars and shops that are close to downtown.

It's not a bad thing.

This is a concern for all over the country.

This is from the Guardian, U.S.

to miss out on billions of dollars as Trump's policies deter overseas tourists.

The number of visitors in March

down 11.6%.

I

Greg Bach

mean, this is apt, but it's just two people.

I was speaking to a couple that I know over in England and I said, Hey, why do you like, you guys haven't been here in like nearly 20 years when you come back, like not anytime soon.

I was like, Oh, fair, fair, fair.

I asked like, I didn't understand, but they, the way they said not anytime soon.

I'm like, Oh, of course you're not.

Of course you're not.

Jane Matenaer

In this Guardian article, they talk about a woman named Cheryl, who Cheryl says she travels to Iowa from her home in St.

Kitts every year.

She usually rents a three bedroom house for her and her kids, rents a car, they go out to dinner, they go to local attractions.

She typically spends 10,000 bucks.

Greg Bach

Wait, she's from St.

Kitts

Jane Matenaer

and she goes where?

She's from St.

Kitts and she goes to Iowa.

Must be home base.

I must know that story.

Must be home base.

No, not this year.

No, not going to do it.

The Trump administration's high profile deportations and detentions at the border that mean that Cheryl originally Canadian isn't coming back to the U. S. She says, quote, I don't feel safe.

This isn't even actually her real name because she's afraid of reprisals.

I love my kids and my family more than anything.

It's only feeling unsafe that's stopping me.

I am too old and tired to sleep on concrete.

I'm,

Greg Bach

wow.

I mean, the newly chosen Canadian prime minister put it best, I think, or put it in very blunt terms, I should say, last month when he said America is a country that we no longer can trust.

And if she spent $10,000, usually she probably could look forward to spending between 12 to $13,000 this year too, with everything going

Jane Matenaer

up the way they

Greg Bach

are.

Jane Matenaer

This was supposed to be a bumper year for US tourism after a steep drop off after the pandemic.

The number of international visitors was expected to finally get back to pre-2020 levels, but not anymore.

A tourism research group said that before Trump's inauguration, they predicted a 9% increase in international travel to the US this year.

Now they're expecting a 12% drop.

That's not good.

People in Spain and Germany have been particularly deterred with 25% and 28% fewer visitors.

Now I can already hear some folks saying well good.

I don't want to be tripping over tourists in my town anyway.

Okay They they they bring in lots of money.

Greg Bach

They they once again They contribute to the economy and then then you're fine.

They leave eventually They're only here for like a week or two maybe a month if they're visiting whatever it doesn't matter like everything you Everything you want to make America great again those individuals do because when tourism booms

We boom.

And that's what also can make America great.

So this constant thing you're talking about, Jane, the hypocrisy and like, well, I don't like it.

Okay, fine.

Then let your, let your town die.

Jane Matenaer

President Trump has said the decline in visitors isn't a big deal.

Quote, I could see a little bit of nationalism at work.

Asked, asked if people were scared to come to the US.

Donald Trump says, no, we treat our tourists great.

There's nobody, no place like this.

Just.

Apparently not this year.

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Todd Alba is here.

Good morning, my friend.

How you doing?

Todd Allbaugh

Buenos dias, Buenos dias.

Jane Matenaer

I'm well.

Thank you.

How about you guys?

We're good.

We're good.

How is the new 2 p.m.

slot going?

Oh, it's fine.

I listen.

Todd Allbaugh

I always, I always listen to you.

It's fine, Jane.

Everything's

Jane Matenaer

fine.

It's good.

Change is hard for everyone, but it's only been, it hasn't even been a full week yet since we started doing, changing the lineup a little bit here at Civic Media.

So that's why we are now on nine to 11.

Tom Hartman takes over 11 to two and then.

the fabulous Todd Alba from two to four, Maggie Dawn, four to six, Pete Schwabba stays in his regular slot, six to eight PM.

Number of things we want to talk about with you this morning, Todd, but I found this article in the Wisconsin Examiner from last week, actually, Henry Redmond with the byline, Richland County community leaders discussed staggering ripple effect of Trump cuts.

Now you are from Richland Center.

Todd Allbaugh

I am proud, proud Richland Center native in the Driftless Southwest Wisconsin.

Jane Matenaer

I guess the thing that jumped out at me, Todd, because they were talking in this article about some of the Head Start cuts and Head Start.

Right.

And I think it's one of those programs where people might have some misconceptions about who uses Head Start and who Head Start helps.

But there are Head Start programs in Richland County that a lot of folks depend upon.

And within this article, they talk about the poverty rate in Richland County, which is much higher than I would have expected.

Todd Allbaugh

Oh, yeah, it's rich.

I mean, grew up there, you know, spent roughly half of my life, various degrees there.

And it's a beautiful place.

Great place to be from, still a great place to deliver work, but it is one of the most impoverished parts of Wisconsin for a long time.

It was Lafayette County, which is down just south, two counties down south of the Wisconsin River along Illinois border, which was where the poorest, not the poorest county, of course, Menominee County, where the Menominee Reservation is, just to the north and west of Green Bay.

Adams and Juneau County at different times, but Richland County,

And part of that is that it's challenged by geography because it's in the beautiful drift list.

It's gorgeous.

But there is no four lane.

Yeah, there's no four lane.

You were there last year, Jane.

And there's no four lane road that goes there.

They took out the rail transportation years ago for the rails to trails program.

There's no boat.

So getting getting goods in and out of Richland County is it can be a challenge.

It's basically trucks.

And that's it.

So that is inhibited industry from

from coming into that part of the state by a large, and also politically, with the exception of my former boss, Dale Schultz, when he represented the area, was Senate Majority Leader, and you had Steve Freese, who represented parts of Richland County when he was Speaker Pro Tem.

Other than those few years, there hasn't been a lot of political power for that area.

They don't get a lot of funds from the state that way.

There's a lot of challenges there.

There's a lot of great people, a lot of great things going on.

I read the story.

I hadn't seen it.

I'm glad you sent it to me.

Wisconsin Examiner, a great publication.

I think there's a couple of important takeaways from that.

I did call our news director at WRCEWRCO, Joanne Krulatz, before I came on the air.

She was at the meeting and she had a story on it.

She sent it to me.

And not only people mentioned the Wisconsin Examiner story, but there were more people there as well.

I think it's important to remember, A, my understanding is it

was organized by State Senator Brad Paff, who is a Democrat of La Crosse area, represents the district just to the west of Richland County.

And so the county board chair, Dave Turck, the mayor, Todd Caperdall, were not in attendance.

I don't know whether they were invited or not.

And number two, Tony Kurtz, the state representative for that area who happens to be Republican, was not there.

I don't know whether he was invited or not.

And I think that's where the under, at least in this story, it went unreported.

I think it's really important for all of our statewide listeners to understand.

Tony Kurtz has represented that area in the state senate as a republic.

with former state senator, Howard Markline, both on the joint finance committee.

After redistricting, Kurt Keprichland County, a democratically elected senator, Sarah Kieski, now represents that area.

And Kieski and Kurt are working and attempting in a bipartisan way.

Our colleague, Phil Knee, has a local morning show there, said that they want to come on his show together and talk about bipartisanship.

So I think it is important to report that and let people know that

there is at least an attempt by new Democratic State Senator Kieske and current Republican Tony Kurtz to work together.

That said, the article of my understanding, the Wisconsin Examiner, all very accurate and to your point, yes.

And you guys have talked about this.

I know we have as well other programs on civic media that these Medicaid cuts, these cuts that are coming up soon here in Congress, people like Derek Van Orton, others are going to vote on, this is going to impact

our hometowns, including Richland County and Southwest Wisconsin.

Head Start is a big part of that.

Yeah, I know my former boss, his wife, Rachel Schultz, was the district administrator of the Richland School District, the Morning Summer Breakfast Program.

over the summer in the Richland School District was one of the most highly attended because kids just don't have enough to eat.

Some parents don't.

It's not just homelessness.

It is under housed people who are living with relatives on couches and that sort of thing.

So there's a lot of challenges there.

And yes, it is accurate that these cuts by Trump and also by the Republican Congress potentially are going to have a real effect.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and again, I think there is this misconception, Todd, that these cuts and these programs only help people in urban areas.

And that's why, for some, it's like, yeah, fine, cut it.

You know, whatever.

It's in Milwaukee.

They get all kinds of state money.

They don't need this.

Cut it.

These cuts affect all of us.

All of us.

Yeah.

Todd Allbaugh

No, absolutely.

And the Kickapoo School Administrator, which Richland County has several great public schools that were kind of divided up out there, Richland County.

But Kickapoo represents the northwest part of the county Viola area.

It's a great local school, public school.

They do what?

They have a great theater program.

They have great sports programs, great friends.

programs, great music programs over the years.

But it's by and large people in agriculture and little villages that make up the Kickapoo School District.

And without those funds for public schools there, they are going to be hurt.

Like you say, the Head Start program.

And to your point, Jane, and we talked about this a little bit in our show yesterday, Congress already went in once and they passed

of the reconciliation bill.

And now the getaway was saying, well, I didn't really cut Medicaid.

which is technically true, because now they have to go back in and actually fund what they voted for.

And the only way you're going to get there is to either A, not give the big tax cuts to the corporations, or B, make drastic cuts to Medicaid.

So I mean, if you can't have your cake, political cake and eat it too, and that's going to have real effects on Richland County, Waukesha, Green Bay, Amory and everywhere in between.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and we've talked about this many times because we will get accused of being fear mongers.

and all those things.

But the math does not add up when they talk about trillions and trillions and trillions of saving that doge is finding.

And then they're going to read in state this big tax cut.

And that money has to come from somewhere and two million here and two million there.

It takes a lot of those to add up to a trillion dollars or several trillion dollars.

And

And that's why we say Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, those could be on the block because that cash has got us come from someplace.

Todd Allbaugh

Do you have a grandmother who worked all of her life?

Her fingers, the bones, saved up, worked hard like my grandmother did in Richland County in the last 10 years of her life.

She found herself in assisted living and ultimately in a nursing home.

She was fortunate that she was able to pay her way to the end, but she, on the last couple of three years of her life, she looked at my mom and she said, Linda,

Why did your dad and I do this?

We scraped and saved so we can leave you kids something.

I'm paying $9,000 a month to be here.

And the woman next door, her money ran out three months after she's here and Medicaid's taking care of her for the exact same.

service and so our programs Decentivize people from saving but the point is that my grandmother have to be lucky.

She had the state retirement system She saved you know like a chipmunk and and could pay away But most people can't and so and so when we to your point Jane when some Republican politicians say oh, that's the you know the quote-unquote welfare folks the quote-unquote lazy people No, actually, we all know that there's very few of those folks actually around number one But number two these are our parents our mom

and dads, our grandparents who've scraped and saved, and now in the retirement, our veterans for God's sake, who sacrificed for our country, and our kids, disabled kids, who are on Medicaid.

These are our friends and neighbors and family who are going to suffer because of the lack of a foresight by the Trump administration and Republicans like Derek Van Orden.

Greg Bach

I was gonna say, I think your grandmother did what she did is the same reason my parents did and my grandparents did is because the government said, hey, you work hard, you save up, you save up for a rainy day.

And he sold this idea of this is how it was going to go.

And, you know, I'm thinking now to when Derek Van Orton was once again, yelling at an expert who was just trying to do her job, saying, we're not gonna cut snap benefits by one nickel, his words by one nickel.

And as Jane said, if you're going to find these savings, guess what goes first?

It always seemed to be the benefits and the programs that help those who are less fortunate or need

Jane Matenaer

help.

Well, and then I saw this yesterday, and we're not going to spend a lot of time on this, but they want to give the defense departments another couple hundred million dollars.

This is an agency within the government that hasn't been able to pass an audit for 20 years, right?

It's been more than a decade since the Defense Department has actually been able to pass an audit.

Todd Allbaugh

And I think if you talk to people that actually in the defense department, people are men and women in uniform, they'll say, yeah, there's some areas we could stand to increase, but you know what?

There are other areas we could find deficiencies.

So again, I'm not sure those calls for increases are coming from men and women in uniform or actually in charge of those programs.

It's from politicians who want to look good to people.

Exactly.

Oh,

Jane Matenaer

exactly.

And there is just a lot of that.

There's a lot of this positioning on important things.

just just because just just to make them look good just to make them look like they're like they're actually accomplishing something

Todd Allbaugh

yeah i i i really appreciate you bringing this story up because

Places like Richland County don't get a lot of love.

There's some great people there.

The tourism director was at this meeting, the examiner's story was talking about, and he talked about the lack of people who are, it's hard to find workers.

Rockwell Automation, a big company there, isn't expanding because they can't find workers.

Immigration plays in this.

People working on dairy farms, orchards, that sort of thing.

So all of these challenges, as you said, Jane, rippled down.

I'm glad they're getting some love.

Would have liked to see Brad Paff show up when the Richland County campus was closed and we couldn't get them to the campus.

but we welcome him now.

Jane Matenaer

And you're that sticks

Todd Allbaugh

better less than never while it

Jane Matenaer

sticks in your craw and justifiably so it really did you're you're

Todd Allbaugh

not We beg Tony Evers to come out there we bred bred bred path Nobody wanted to come out there and and very quickly, you know Evers the Republicans gave Richland County two million dollars And then it's gonna cost a million and a half to replace one bridge to to clean up the campus.

It's ridiculous

Jane Matenaer

We're gonna continue our conversation with Todd Alba host of the Todd Alba show two to four

here across the network.

Derek Van Orden, we're going to talk about him.

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Today, this might be in the top 10 Hall of Fame.

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Greg Bach

Great Schmeckles of history.

Jane Matenaer

Oh, yes.

You want to stick around for this one.

Yes.

Great lady, nervous anticipation.

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Right now we're joined by our friend and colleague Todd Alba from the Todd Alba show now from two to four across the Civic Media radio network.

I did want to share this real quickly before we move on to Derek Van Ordenen, his very important endorsement he just got.

But one of our textures on the text line we were talking about

town halls and who shows up and who doesn't show up.

Sue from Franklin texted this in.

My friend got this yesterday afternoon with virtually no notice.

It was a notice about a town hall being held by Brian Stiles.

And here's what it read.

Hello, this is Congressman Brian Stiles.

Sorry I missed you.

I call to invite you to participate in my telephone town hall taking place right now.

If you get this message within 30 minutes, you can join.

Here's the number.

This is Congressman Brian Stile.

If you have any questions, contact me.

So yes, 10 to five people are heading home on a Monday.

Hey, I missed your call, but if you get this right now, you can join my telephone.

town hall, because I don't really want to see you in person.

Todd Allbaugh

Sounds like Congressman Stiles on the political version of Grindr looking for a hookup.

Greg Bach

I was going to say, I thought these guys hated remote work, but you know, but super

Jane Matenaer

from Franklin says her friend joined this and it was useless.

There was a survey done, but they could only push a button.

with their concerns.

So there was actually no way to offer any actual feedback because they don't want to hear from their constituents.

Wow.

Just

Todd Allbaugh

it's just sad, right?

Yeah.

I mean, I just don't as someone who worked as a legislative aide for a majority of my life, that's just foreign to me.

Both my former boss, State Senator Dale Schultz and former US Congressman Scott Kluge.

Well, I think maybe I've told a part of this story before, but when I got hired by Klu, the interview was really brief, but he said, you know, I hire good people and, and I let you go do your job.

But if you, if you mess up, I bring in and I knock you upside the head and then let you go do your job.

You get three strikes and you're out.

Any questions?"

I said, no, he goes, great, you're hired.

That was it.

That's the entire interview.

And so I only got one strike in my entire five years with him.

It was because I got behind on constituent case work and he did not tolerate it.

And of course, he never yelled at me or anything.

He just, he brought me in and gave me old dad, you know.

Todd, I'm really disappointed in you.

That is the worst thing, dude.

I'm devastated.

I was mortified.

And so, you know, I had it cleaned up within a week and it never happened again.

But so I guess coming from that type of situation, I just the whole idea of not responding to constituents, not having office hours, not having true listening sessions, it's completely foreign.

And to me, unfortunately,

You know, the internet provides good things, but also bad things.

I think the fact that these folks can can live in their silos and in the whatever sphere and it makes it possible for them not to and also the huge amounts of money now in politics.

They don't have to go out and listen to their constituents and and we've lost something in my opinion.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, most definitely.

We don't have a whole lot of time left.

I do want to get to this.

President Trump announcing yesterday.

is endorsement for Derek Van Orden for re-election.

Donald Trump says Congressman Derek Van Orden and America first warrior for Wisconsin third congressional district.

Derek has my complete and total endorsement for re-election.

He will never let you down.

Derek, look north.

Is all I'm gonna say.

Just look to Canada.

And see how those endorsements are going in case you missed this yesterday.

Polliver, who was the conservative in Canada

Todd Allbaugh

who

Jane Matenaer

was running against the liberal, Donald Trump had soundly endorsed him.

Yesterday, Pierre Polliver put this on Twitter, President Trump, stay out of our election.

The only people who will decide the future of Canada are Canadians at the ballot box.

He was leading by 20 points two months ago, and he just lost.

I just thought it was amazing that he came out on social media and said, would you butt out?

You are not helping me.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, I would say two things a on the Republican Party They have a rift right now with their convention coming up there is a more more even more super Trumpy sect of manga in Wisconsin GLP in Eau Claire Milwaukee in Brown County Scream Bay who are trying to out Brian shimmy as the party leader right right I think part of it is Trump tried to fend off the more if you call him moderate magas from challenging Derek Van Orton perhaps in a primary But also I think it also has a great fear that you know Van Orton only won what three four points last time

And especially in 2026, assuming that elections are going to go smoothly, we'll assume that for a minute, that Derek Van Orton could be in some real trouble.

Rebecca Cook is getting a lot of endorsements.

It appears that she's not going to have a major challenger on the Democratic side.

But I actually kind of hope she does.

I think it's healthy.

And I think it's too soon to say that.

But I think Derek Van Orton is in some real political trouble.

Greg Bach

Yeah, I think that.

This is not going to go the way

Todd Allbaugh

I

Greg Bach

I bet you he's waving his hand saying thank you president Trump up behind.

Todd Allbaugh

Oh, yeah

Greg Bach

He's saying oh god no, and I think we I want it next time you come back to I need to talk to you more about this more extreme maga sector

Todd Allbaugh

Well, I'll quickly disagree.

I think that Derek Middler, not only does he drink the Kool-Aid, he makes the Kool-Aid.

But I think he's just blind.

I think he's lovin' every second of it.

Bring it on!

Bring it

Jane Matenaer

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Thank you so very much, my friend.

We will see you in two weeks.

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Coming up after the 1030 news is the segment that we now call Audio Sorbet.

Well, we lighten things up a little bit for the last half an hour of the show.

And this is something that we did talk about.

I think it was last month or the month before when the price of eggs were super high.

Yeah.

But about chickens.

Yep.

And a lot more interest in people having their own backyard chickens.

Now you can rent a chicken.

I didn't know that was a thing, but it is.

Greg Bach

We're going to have a talk later.

Jane Matenaer

We're going to talk about rented chickens after 10 30.

And I know Angie from Monroe, one of our listeners called in last time when we talked about this.

And if this is something that you want to do, and I know there's a lot of interest in it, there are some things you need to keep in mind that you may not have thought of because Angie, Angie, it was, I found it revelatory, some of the things that she shared.

Greg Bach

And that was the thing is Angie, if you are listening right now and you know about this.

thing, have this new industry.

This rented chicken.

Send us some texts with the pros and cons or give us a call later when we're talking about it, of course.

But we'd love to get an expert's knowledge on how people are getting into your industry.

Chickens.

Jane Matenaer

Chickens, baby.

They're very popular.

Today is the first 100 days, the first 100 days of the second Trump administration.

And what I would like to hear FCC compliant, of course.

Give me the one word description that you would use to describe the first 100 days of the second Trump administration.

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You

Jane Matenaer

can text it in, you can call it in, keep it clean.

Please.

Please.

Just one word.

Just one word.

What is the one word that you would use to describe the first 100 days of the Trump administration?

Greg, what would be yours?

Chaos.

Chaos.

Chaos.

Mine would be incompetence.

Greg Bach

There you go.

And when you mix those two together, it's never a good thing.

Jane Matenaer

Chaotic

Greg Bach

incompetence.

And I even, I was thinking about a theme song for the first 100 days and I couldn't help but find a tune.

Calvin, can you play a tune for me real quick?

It would be funny if it wasn't real.

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

Definitely.

It's not funny.

No, it's not funny at all.

But what is your one word?

If you had one, one word to describe the first 100 days of the second Trump administration, 855-752-4842, Dave from New Berlin, Arson.

Greg Bach

There.

She's you on the live stream.

I will allow it.

She wants two words.

Hot mess.

Jane Matenaer

Hot mess is good.

That's a good one as well.

That works.

We will continue this.

Uh, during this segment, again, the one word that you would use to describe the Trump administration version number two.

I'm not sure if you're familiar with Daniel Dale from CNN, but he spends a lot of time going over Trump's speeches and calling out which, I'll just say it, their lies.

Yeah.

Uh, which lot, which, which things he says in his speeches are lies.

He actually goes from false claims to exaggerations.

to doesn't mention or wildly exaggerates.

In his latest article, however, Daniel Dale bluntly said, Trump's recent claims about the prices of gas, groceries and eggs are lies.

Over the last week, President Trump has lied about the price of all of them, using this repeated deception to try to minimize widespread concerns that his tariffs will fuel inflation,

No, the price of eggs has not fallen 93% since Trump came back in.

What?

That came out of Trump's mouth.

93%, which would mean, and again, I don't math, but aren't that eggs would be like a nickel.

Greg Bach

So they were around $556, $5.50 cents.

Okay.

So we'll do that.

We'll do that.

$550 times .93.

So there we go.

All right, so we're gonna take 5.5 minus 5.11.

That means that they were 39 cents.

Jane Matenaer

Eggs should be 39 cents.

Greg Bach

39 cents, a dozen, not a piece, a dozen.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, that's not what they are.

Again, Daniel Dale from CNN, know the price of eggs not down 93% since Trump came back in office.

The overall price of groceries isn't down.

There was no state, let alone three states.

Or gas was a buck 98 last week.

The president has been lying about a bunch of prices.

He claimed that the dollar 98 gas, which Daniel Dale says, no, that's not a thing.

The lowest price in the US was found at a gas station in Texas at 219.

The average national gas price from AAA is about 317 a gallon.

There is no state average price of gas below 270 a gallon.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Right now, I think the cheapest, well, no, well.

On Friday, there's a gas station by the tap.

That's always the cheapest in Milwaukee.

It was 269 a gallon.

Oh, that's nothing.

The next day, it was 289.

Jane Matenaer

Oops.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

855-752-4842.

What one word would you use to describe the first 100 days of the Trump administration?

Jean from Eau Claire is on the line.

Good morning, Jean.

Good morning.

One word.

One word.

Bile.

Bile.

I think

Greg Bach

Jane you said it perfectly when you referred to it as Trump administration number two

Jane Matenaer

That's the perfect way of putting it.

That's one way to put it Terry listening on WA UK says destruction Roger from Stevens Point on the text line clown show Adam listening in Madison on WXCO.

It says despicable Dan from Wausau non empathetic.

Is that a real word?

I think it is.

It is now.

It is now.

Carol from Waukesha, her one word describing the first 100 days of the Trump administration disastrous.

Liz from Salkville says destructive.

855-752-4842.

Your one word, keep it clean.

To describe the first 100 days of Trump 2.0, Sharkey from Racine is on the line.

Good morning, Sharkey.

Thanks for joining us.

Thank you.

I'll be nice with this.

Jane Matenaer

Please

do but it'll be soft

Jane Matenaer

diarrhea

Is there enough

there you go?

Appreciate it sharky C compliant at work stew

Greg Bach

Luke on the live stream says our Luke in the text he's telling us it's apathetic would be the would be the Empathetic so I guess yeah, app.

It'd be apathetic versus non empathetic exactly.

Yeah, I mean honestly Can you go further like?

It's not even, it's not empathetic.

They honestly don't, they want to, as you said, the fear is real.

It's intentional.

Therefore, the hurt is real and intentional.

They love, they love seeing people scrambling in fear because they don't know what's going on.

Because if they're scared, they don't know what America really is great about, you know what I mean?

Jane Matenaer

Well, I just think that

I mean, we've talked about this with Andrew Watkins.

We've talked about this with other people.

Empathy to some MAGA is a sin.

Empathy is a sin.

Elon, our co-president, said that empathy is responsible for the destruction of Western civilization.

Greg Bach

And then the following week, after people were setting alight his

those dealerships and the cars.

He was saying, where is the empathy for me?

He literally was saying, where is the empathy for me?

I've done nothing wrong, Jane.

I'm just trying to help.

Jules and Mozanie says on WXCO is saying inhumane.

That is actually a perfect word.

Inhumane.

Inhumane.

Cruel.

Cruel.

Jane Matenaer

I mean, yes.

Cruelty.

855-752-4842, your one word to describe the first 100 days of the Trump administration.

Jude from East Troy, garbage.

Louise from Kiwani, criminal.

Jules inhumane.

Kurt from Eau Claire, bully.

Dan from Wausau, egoism.

The opposite of altruism.

Absolutely.

And again, Ronnie from Horicon, cruelty.

855-752-4842.

Your one word to describe the Trump administration that is FCC compliant.

Nora from Milwaukee is on the line.

Good morning, Nora.

Thanks for joining us.

Killing.

Say that again, Nora.

Killing.

Killing.

Yeah.

Appreciate

Greg Bach

you calling in.

And I'll wait for callers and textures and live streamers to give us one word.

But I want backup on the environment.

We've talked enough about why we think it is what it is.

But I want once again to show your work.

If you think this is great and wonderful, why?

Why was it doing to help you, the country, anybody else?

Jane Matenaer

And we've talked before too, Greg, that...

I do not dispute that we can find waste within the federal government.

I don't think anybody is disputing that and saying everything is working just hunky dory and it's all just perfect and it's all just great.

No, there is waste to be found.

It's the manner in which you go about it.

And that's why I say my word is incompetence.

Because this does not seem like a terribly competent administration, even though Donald Trump says he surrounds himself by all the best people.

Sean Duffy, our head of the Department of Transportation, was on Fox News this morning saying, yeah, we need more air traffic controllers.

Oh, glad you finally came to the party.

You just fired a whole bunch of people from the FAA.

And didn't you tell them that some of them are going to have to work until they die?

Well, now he's saying that I think we should, you know, how can we get them to work longer?

How

can

we get them to work longer?

From what I have read, air traffic controllers are required to retire at 56 because it is such a high stress job.

Do we want people who are really, really highly stressed to stay on for another 10 years?

Does that sound like a good plan?

Not at all.

That's why I go with incompetence.

Greg Bach

I like incompetence.

It's funny because

They're all so connected, the incompetence breed.

It breeds inhumane action, which just seemed like it's a word play, but it all makes sense.

And they're all connected.

Another word Shizu puts on there is ruthless.

That too.

Ruthless is a wonderful word to describe.

I personally, I, whoever said inhumane, it just.

Everything feels purposeful and mean.

Jane Matenaer

We'll keep this going.

855-752-4842.

Your one word to describe the first 100 days of Donald Trump 2.0.

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like to have, I would like to have, I would like

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Greg Bach

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Marks the 100th day.

What is your one word?

Keep it clean.

FCC compliant.

Your one word to describe the first 100 days of the Trump administration.

Lots of texts coming in.

I love this one from Dan in Wausau.

I learn new words when I can't swear.

There you go.

It's good for all of us, Dan.

It's good for all of us.

Vindictive.

Greg Bach

Vindictive.

Jake from Madison, gross Chuck from East Troy scammed.

That's an important one too, because we talked about this with Will Westmoreland yesterday and before and the amount of people out there who are saying, this is not what I voted for.

Even though really he's doing exactly what he said he was going to, but still there are people out there who say, my business is being affected.

I'm a farmer, I'm an immigrant, I'm this, I'm that.

People are being affected and they're dumbfounded the fact that a politician,

actually did what they were going to do.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and unfortunately too, it depends upon where you choose to get your information.

Because if you watch certain sources, you will never hear about Project 2025, which we talked about four months leading up to the presidential election.

And we had people saying, well, none of my friends know about that, so it must not be anything.

Greg Bach

I love that that was the barometer of what is truth.

And now my friends don't talk about it, so it can't be real.

What is

Jane Matenaer

the one word you would use to describe the Trump administration 2.0, the first 100 days, 855-752-4842.

And from Chippewa Falls is on the line.

Good morning, Anne.

Thanks for joining us.

My word is heartless or disaster.

Jane Matenaer

There you go.

Heartless disaster.

We could do that too.

That works too, unfortunately.

Thank you, Ann.

Appreciate it.

Laurie from Hayward Scary.

He also doesn't do math.

He said he was negotiating tariffs with over 200 countries.

There are only 195.

Details, details, Laurie, details.

Mary from Tosa, I'm betting my money on psychotic.

Greg Bach

That's also brings up another, you know, this time, yeah, about this time last year, we were getting really worried about where the mind of Joe Biden was, the fact he was older, this, you know, there was undeniable moments where you're like, this man might not be able to handle another four years.

Let's not forget Donald Trump's not much younger and is having these same moments night.

But as we said earlier, he claimed that

Eggs were down 93%.

He just picks numbers out of the air.

Yeah, it is absolutely crazy as Christine and slinger lives listening on WA UK says within all caps with exclamation points chaos.

Jane Matenaer

Oh, yeah.

Brian from Milwaukee Tornado.

Yeah.

855-752-4842.

What is the one word FCC compliant?

you would use to describe the Trump administration.

2.0, first 100 days.

Tom from El Canto, thanks for joining us, Tom.

What's your word?

I

would say trying.

Trying?

Not necessarily successful in everything, but he's trying to accomplish the things that he promised to the people that voted him into office.

Jane Matenaer

Fair enough.

Do you think this is an

Do you think this is organized, Tom, the way that they're going about this?

Well, no, not necessarily.

But I think that they're trying.

They're not sitting on their hands for four years already planning what they're going to do in the next administration.

They're trying.

They're trying to accomplish the things that they said to the voters that they were going to do.

No.

To be fair, there's not really a playbook for that because I'm in my 60s and I haven't seen any other president try, you know, as they may.

They may make a lot, lots and lots of promises before they're elected, but then once they're elected, they're more worried about future elections and what they're going to see.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah.

Thank you, Tom.

I appreciate it.

I really do appreciate your checking in.

Okay.

And there are certainly taking lots of actions.

Greg Bach

I disagree with him on one point.

I think that Joseph Biden's last term, this past term, got a lot done.

He tried and succeeded and the economy and things showed for that.

So yes, politicians can say a lot and do nothing and they do worry about reelection, especially congressmen, but there is

proof to show that the previous president tried and succeeded a great deal.

Tom, on the live stream, I think has one of the better ones as well, says, Retribution.

Jane Matenaer

Yes.

Greg Bach

Which he has talked about.

There is a gentleman who lives down the street from my mother-in-law who has a flag that says, Trump 2024, the revenge tour.

Oh, how lovely.

That's

Jane Matenaer

exactly what we want in our commander-in-chief.

Yeah.

And we don't have a lot of time to talk about this, but, and this happened really quickly this morning.

Amazon came out and said they were going to you know when you look at your bill

Yeah,

Jane Matenaer

and they were gonna include how much the tariffs were raising the price mm-hmm Carolyn Levitt said that this was She didn't say treasonous, but it was close a hostile and political act ah hostile and political act by Amazon They're not going after them because Amazon has already capitulated.

Greg Bach

They said didn't exist.

They were like we were never gonna do

Jane Matenaer

that

News is coming up next, and then when we come back, we will lighten it up, I promise.

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That's all on the way.

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Greg Bach

If we lose to the white socks, I swear to

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You can listen to the game over the air.

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Great Schmeckles in history.

Stick around for this one.

It should be good.

Right now, though, this is the portion of the show we call Audio Sorbet.

Where we just take a breath, get away from the news.

I think we all need to break.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

to laugh a little bit.

This from Harvest Public Media, Skyler Rossi, headline reads, rented chicken.

More people take a crack at creating their own egg supply.

Now we talked about this a month ago or two months ago when the prices of eggs were continuing to do nothing but go up.

And a lot more people have started raising chickens in their backyards.

Greg Bach

who is it who said from the Trump administration they said well people should learn how to raise

Jane Matenaer

I think

Greg Bach

it was the

Jane Matenaer

agriculture secretary yeah that

Greg Bach

was

Jane Matenaer

awesome become farmers everyone yep there you go we'll just grow all our own food it's gonna be fine but I did not realize you could rent a chicken this is actually a business I know buying or renting chickens say experts is hardly a cost-saving measure but people in the business say people

are very interested in that home egg supply.

Rent the chicken, which opened over a decade ago, based in Pennsylvania, opened 10 years ago, based in Pennsylvania, partners with farmers and cities across the country to rent backyard chickens.

Quote, we've been so busy this year, we haven't even been able to compare numbers versus last year.

When we looked in February, we were already about 20% ahead of this year versus last year at this time.

Hatcheries across the Midwest that supply backyard chickens also say they are flooded with orders.

The Murray McMurray hatchery.

It just flows.

Murray McMurray hatchery in Iowa sells about 3 million chicks a year to people across the country.

Typically they sell out about two or three weeks in advance this year.

They are sold out through October.

Greg Bach

So wait, I'm confused.

Jane Matenaer

They're selling chicks.

That's for people who are buying chickens.

But you

Greg Bach

can rent chickens.

I mean, I'm really happy their business is booming.

Honestly, if I had the wherewithal Jane, I would totally have some chickens.

I would be hated, hated.

Your

Jane Matenaer

dog would hate you too.

Greg Bach

My dog would

Jane Matenaer

be.

Eating chicken every night, which is why you would have to have an area for that.

Greg Bach

Yeah, but I feel like I already rent a chicken

Every every what I do is I just go to the grocery store and I buy eggs where someone else has got their chickens It's off-site chicken rental.

That's

Jane Matenaer

that's how I see it's off-site chicken

Greg Bach

rental Very simple.

They package them up nice and

Jane Matenaer

I like that Calvin did you want a chicken on the chicken discussion here?

Are you down for this?

Are you gonna are you gonna rent a chicken Calvin's chicken rental?

I Don't have any interest in getting chickens.

I if I was gonna raise

something like that in my yard.

I think I'd go a little more low maintenance like the bees we talked about.

Bees are not low maintenance, are they?

Well, you kind of just set it up and then harvest the honey at the end of the year.

That is a probably an intensive process.

But what I was going to say about chickens though is I live in like a subdivision with pretty close lots

Jane Matenaer

and

there is one of our neighbors who has chickens and they only have like two and I don't really notice them.

So

Jane Matenaer

it's not that big of a decision.

They don't make that much noise.

They don't

really.

I think it's the roosters that make noise.

Jane Matenaer

If

you just have chickens don't really make that much noise.

But if you want

Jane Matenaer

eggs, don't

you need a rooster?

No, if you get a rooster, then you're going to start having chicks.

Greg Bach

Welcome to science class.

It's a basic biology, Jane.

I think the problem too is like, well, for one, I don't know why I'd want chickens.

My wife can't eat eggs.

Like.

They

Kathryn Lake

make them

Greg Bach

nauseous.

Kathryn Lake

But

Greg Bach

also I think that even if chickens themselves don't make the noise, we have a dog.

Our neighbor back behind us has two dogs, neighbor next door and over each have a dog and the other neighbor.

So I feel like if there were chickens, barking is all you would hear.

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

And PJ on the live stream says bees are a lot of work.

I don't think it's just harvesting.

I think you have to go out there and do the things and blah, blah, blah.

It just seems like it's more.

Yeah, he says he worked on a PJ says I worked on a bar beef farm for two years and below it There is a ton of daily maintenance on beehives.

Jane Matenaer

I did not

Greg Bach

know that I mean, I'm all for people Getting a little more farming, especially if it's for like especially to make you some money making your own honey making your own eggs.

That's great It's just I personally like I just think rented chicken is one of the most American things that's ever like hey Don't want to get don't want to buy this because you still have to have all the

Well,

Jane Matenaer

here, but again, you can get different packages.

Oh, tell me about the packages packages from rent the chicken.

Very by location in Omaha, Detroit and Milwaukee.

Yeah, a six month rental of two hens starts at about 500 bucks.

So OK, well, four feathered hens in St.

Louis offers six or 12 month chicken rentals starting at $95 a month, but you have to commit for a year.

The most expensive chicken, chicken rental package, Greg Bach, the golden clock package is a hundred and ninety bucks a month.

OK, so that includes full care will come out, will feed the chickens, will change out the bedding and the coop, make sure everything is going smoothly.

Just so it's pretty much the family only has to collect the eggs.

But if you're going to be shelling out $190 a month for someone else to come and take care of your rent to chickens, then you may as well be buying eggs to hear that folks shelling out.

Greg Bach

That's the thing.

That's my exact thought is like, if you're going to be paying that much money, why not just do it yourself?

It seems how much like at that point, you have to be selling them because if you're just

Eating them, that's a waste of money.

Yeah, it's, well, you're ending up with a hole.

So how much are you, how much do you need to make to make any profit?

Like you got to clear your costs and then make a profit.

How many eggs can you sell?

Every farmer's market has fresh eggs.

I mean, I can drive through Kenosha County and see stands on people's

Jane Matenaer

profits saying

Kathryn Lake

fresh

Greg Bach

eggs.

So this, I'm glad they're doing well.

I really am.

This is great.

Their business model is working.

People are like, I love everything about a farmer, but not farming.

This is very American.

Jane Matenaer

I just think it makes you laugh.

It makes you laugh.

Thank you.

A rent to chicken packages.

I just, I love this.

Dan from Moise, listening on WXCO.

It is a steep learning curve, but I got three chickens last August and it's fun.

Yeah.

Lots of poo and probably not a money saver, but neither is making maple syrup.

It's really about enjoying all of it.

And that's probably the best way to look at it, Dan, is...

It's work, it's not gonna be easy, but it's the process that you're enjoying and the reward, right?

When you eat eggs that came from your chickens.

Greg Bach

It's a labor of love, essentially.

And yes, farm fresh eggs taste way different.

Jane Matenaer

They look

Greg Bach

different.

They're so, so different.

Jane Matenaer

So

Greg Bach

I would, I mean, like I said, if we had eggs in the house, I would buy farm fresh eggs all the time, but

Jane Matenaer

I'm just thinking myself,

Greg Bach

why would I have chickens in my house?

My wife would be like, what are you doing?

Jane Matenaer

The one thing I remember when Angie called in the last time we talked about backyard chickens Yeah, if this is something that you're considering and even if you live Maybe even more especially if you live in a rural area is to keep in mind predators Oh God and not just ground predators, but sky predators Hawks Hawks

in particular, she had mentioned how she wanted to do free range chickens.

I believe it was Angie.

She wanted to do free range chickens so they could go, you know, wander everywhere they want

to.

And

then she would come out and all the chickens are dead.

Not a good, not good.

Greg Bach

I assume because this is the first time hearing I wanted to be like, is anyone ever done this?

Please, if you know someone who's done this, tell them to contact us and give us a brief.

Oh,

Jane Matenaer

I'd love to

Greg Bach

learn more about this.

Jane says at civicmedia.us.

I would love to know more about the gentleman chicken farmer as

Jane Matenaer

well as beekeepers.

Greg Bach

Oh,

Jane Matenaer

yeah.

I think that would be a really interested just to find out how much work is involved.

Greg Bach

You know, we can do on our proposed possible trip through Wisconsin, but we find a bee farm.

Jane Matenaer

That's a great idea.

That's a great idea.

We're talking about rent the chickens.

It is a thing.

More people taking a crack at creating their own egg supply from harvest public media.

You can rent a chicken according to different packages.

Rent the chicken based in Pennsylvania.

Greg Bach

But you can do it here in Wisconsin.

Jane Matenaer

You can do it here in Milwaukee.

Greg Bach

That

Jane Matenaer

is.

But again, and again, you can.

And we talked to Fleet Farm.

Not too long ago,

because they were sending chicks.

No,

farm and fleet.

Farm and fleet,

they were sending

chicks.

But again, it is an investment and don't think you're going to get rich by selling eggs, because that's probably not how it works.

But if you're thinking about it, packages from Rent the Chicken, very depending upon location, Omaha, Detroit, and Milwaukee, you'd need a six month rental of two hands starting at about

500 bucks

Greg Bach

I think actually this is you know what I'm you know going back because at first I was very much like oh god I'm thinking about now if you're someone who wants to get into it.

This is a good stepping stone

Jane Matenaer

It'd be a glow.

Yeah, I'd be rather than buy right for

Greg Bach

six months see

Jane Matenaer

how you feel

Greg Bach

rent for a year because you know We've all done those things where you're like I really want to do this thing and you buy all the stuff all the stuff and six months later It's sitting in your garage.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, John from Oshkosh is this seems like it started in Illinois not sure about that John this rented chicken

is based in Pennsylvania.

They've been around for a decade.

Or was this a Diggit?

Greg Bach

Illinois?

There it is.

Seems like a total poser thing to do.

He was raking

Jane Matenaer

up.

Greg Bach

I feel like this is a Diggit Illinois.

Jane Matenaer

It's a Diggit Illegions.

Rent a chicken.

Yeah.

It's up to you.

Greg Bach

Yeah, it's up to you.

I mean, I'm not doing it, but more power to you.

Cluck, cluck.

Jane Matenaer

There you go.

We're pro chickens.

And if you know anybody who's a beekeeper, I'm very serious about this.

We would love to talk to them.

Send it to janesaysatcivicmedia.us, J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S.

Jane says, atcivicmedia.us, I know one of my sisters, her neighbor has been doing backyard bees for a couple of years.

And I guess I just did not realize it was, it's not set it and forget it.

Greg Bach

No, no, I mean, I guess it's however much you want to be involved too, like you can do.

the baseball to work or you mean like I'm going to really like do it.

Do it.

I mean, yeah, again, this is none of this stuff is personally like it just I like the couch.

I like my TV.

And if I just said they're going, I have to take care of the chickens now.

I'm like, this is not the life I chose.

Jane Matenaer

I just want a t-shirt that says rented chicken just because it makes me laugh.

Greg Bach

Oh, folks, we're making that check out the merch store.

Jane Matenaer

Ronnie from Oregon gets the final word and out an alternative to chickens are quail.

They're small and much easier to deal with as they need a smaller cage.

All right, that's another thing we're going to have to look more into.

Quail raising.

Come quail away.

Come quail.

Oh, thank you.

And on that note, we will have to break when we return.

We're going to wrap up the show like we always do with this.

It shouldn't be a thing today.

It's the great Schmeckles in history.

Stay with us.

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Coming up on the show tomorrow, last day of April.

No, it's not April 30th.

You're all liar pants is 30th tomorrow the last day of April Dr. Kristen Lyrely will be here our friend and colleague and now she has a show on the weekends and Saturdays and Sundays Dr. Kristen Lyrely joining us tomorrow after the 9 30 news David Drake is coming back You know how I love David we talk about birds

You do.

Sometimes

Greg Bach

I just walk out of

Jane Matenaer

the room and it's like I was never

Greg Bach

here.

I come back and it's like, oh,

Jane Matenaer

cool, all right.

Still talking about birds.

David Drake will be joining us.

We're going to talk actually about the endangered species list.

This is not a laughing matter.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

There are some people now within the Trump administration who think that, yeah, do we need this anymore?

If we just destroy all their habitat, does that really constitute

harm.

Greg Bach

It's not like I'm doing it.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah.

So David Drake will be joining us in our number two tomorrow.

So I hope you can join us for that.

Right now, though, it is 1154, Calvin.

That means it's time for

Greg Bach

this shouldn't be a thing.

Jane Matenaer

As always, if you have a thing you think should not be, send it in to Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us.

Calvin found this one.

Calvin, I think this is destined to go into the Tisbat Hall of Fame if there ever is one.

This is from the Guardian, Kim Wilshire, that lucky reporter with the byline.

Headline reads, historians dispute by you tapestry penis tally after lengthy debate.

Two scholars at loggerheads over when whether dangling shapes depict a dagger or the 94th penis on a specific embroidery

Greg Bach

In

Jane Matenaer

a historical spat that could be subtitled 1066 with knobs on Two medieval experts are engaged in a battle over how many Schmeckles

are embroidered into the Bayou tapestry.

Oxford professor George Garnett drew worldwide interest six years ago.

When he announced he had counted 93 penises stitched into the embroidered account of the Norman conquest of England again from 1066.

The 88 year old professor said they're attached to horses.

88 of them are attached to horses.

The remainder

are attached to humans.

However, another scholar now, Defter Christopher Monk, says, no, it's not 93 Schmeckles on this embroidered piece, it's 94.

Greg Bach

Have I ever told you, Jane, how much I love my job?

Jane Matenaer

No, not lately.

Greg Bach

I am

Jane Matenaer

currently- Look at what you learned.

Greg Bach

I was, sure, okay.

I was gonna say things I get to say on the air.

I mean, the idea is like they're having a, they're

Jane Matenaer

having a Schmeckle fight here.

I just think it's great that-

This is what researchers, professors are researching.

Greg Bach

And it is a, it is a, you know, a foundational, educated discussion they're having too.

It's not two guys yelling at each other in a bar.

No, no, no.

It's two men in tweed jackets with the elbow pads.

Hatches.

Really going back and forth to say, no, sir, 93.

Jane Matenaer

A running man depicted in the border of the tapestry has something dangling beneath his tunic.

One professor says it's the scabbard of a sword or a dagger the other professor says no no that's a schmechel I am in no doubt that the appendage is a depiction of male genitalia The detail is surprisingly anatomically fulsome

Greg Bach

Could you imagine a guy on like a day site going, I'm fulsome.

Like, yeah, that's just not, actually, no, that's a great word to describe

Jane Matenaer

yourself.

That is a good word.

The biomuseum in Normandy, which is home to the 70 meter long embroidery, says the story it tells is an epic poem and a moralistic work.

The historians both insist that beyond all this stupid jokes and sexual innuendo, their work is not silly.

This is about understanding medieval minds.

The whole point of studying history is to understand how people thought in the past.

They were not crude, unsophisticated, or dim-witted, quite the opposite.

What I've shown is that this is a serious, learned attempt to comment on the conquest, albeit in code.

Greg Bach

Okay, Professor Chop, trying to kill our fun for one thing.

And second of all, I think we could have learned all those things like,

90 91 Schmeckles ago like to find another one proves nothing more like we understand that they didn't wear underwear or pants and they let them they let their freak flags fly all up fine and the horses were excited about war but I think that finding one more doesn't make it that much more educational like it doesn't like oh I didn't know I did not take you seriously until the

Jane Matenaer

94th Schmeckle Jane they want to be accurate yeah they're historians they want to be accurate Calvin any comments on this since you're the one who found this

Yeah, well in the next paragraph it says in the Bayou tapestry size did matter the Horstorian pointed out that the battle's two leaders ride horses with the two largest The most

Jane Matenaer

fulsome as it

word

Greg Bach

Clip clop

Jane Matenaer

That raps we have to end this that raps up today's episode of

This shouldn't be a thing.

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Sorry, Tom.

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