Mondays With Mr. Global (Hour 1)

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Mondays With Mr. Global (Hour 1)

Matenaer on Air · Mon Apr 21, 2025

Good morning and welcome, welcome to Matinair on air.

Jane Matinair, Greg Bach and Calvin Butenoff coming to you live from our studio here at Radio Park in Racine.

You can always join us.

Call or text.

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You can leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube and what used to be Twitter coming up after the 1030 news.

Mr. Global, Matt Randolph will be here.

He is an oil and gas industry expert.

Many things to talk about with Mr. Global, including energy prices and prices at the pump.

Which we've had many discussions about.

Many, many.

So, Matt Randolph will be joining us after the 1030 News.

If you have a question for him, please send it in to janesaysatcivicmedia.us, J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S, Jane says,

at civicmedia.us, the same for our guest in hour number two, Colleen McCarthy, whose VP of organ and tissue donation for VersaVe Wisconsin is gonna be joining us to talk about organ donation.

Yep, she came through sometime last year with both a recipient and a donor.

Yes.

The mother of a donor and a recipient.

So

impactful.

So impactful.

And they were here to answer questions, especially Colleen who was here to answer questions as far as

You know, when, where, how, just please give us those questions.

We want to be able to answer them for you because we know it's a scary topic, a little intimidating for some, but Colleen is here to help.

Absolutely.

And then we will lighten things up in hour number two, starting at 1130 with a segment we now call audio Sorbet.

Little delayed Sorbet there.

We're going to talk about lyrics that we get wrong.

Yeah.

Song lyrics that we have gotten wrong over the years.

You just hear it wrong, but you can't help but sing it that way.

Yeah.

And there's so many.

And you never tell anybody they're wrong because if you tell people, then you're like embarrassed for the rest of your life.

Well, until you get, unless you get caught by your

singing along

and you sing the wrong thing.

So that's coming up at 1130 and we will wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it's the sand between your toes edition.

Great Lakes are involved and there's a video element as well So stick around for that did want to start off this morning though with acknowledgment acknowledging rather the passing of Pope Francis who has died at the age of 88 He did make a surprise appearance yesterday for Easter services in Rome He also met with Vice President JD Vance yesterday, but the Vatican announced about 735 this morning that Pope Francis had died of course

accolades pouring in from all over the world.

If you would like to share any memories you have of Pope Francis, 8-5-5, 7-5-2, 4-8-4-2, that's 8-5-5, 7-5-Civic.

Of course, I immediately thought of the movie Conclave after the news broke because that will be happening now

once

the Pope is laid to rest.

And they will go into a conclave to select the new Pope, which can be a very long process.

Yes, it can be.

And not everyone was necessarily a big fan of Pope Francis.

No, he was a both a transformative and a lightning rod of a figure inside and outside the Catholic Church.

And, you know, I'm a kid who was brought up Catholic, went to Catholic school, Catholic tradition, all the sacraments that I could possibly get to the point I left.

And I was a Catholic youth minister and we always had Pope John Paul and Pope John Paul II was fine.

He was charismatic.

Very much so.

But.

Pope Francis was something different.

He, I mean, you can say a lot of things about him, about the Catholic church, about his views, but you cannot deny that his word and his rhetoric definitely kind of went more with the idea of Jesus and.

helping and being of service.

Being of service, welcoming the less fortunate, all of those things.

In 2013, Pope Francis became the first Latin American and the first Jesuit pope.

He chose his papal name to honor St.

Francis of Assisi, the patron saint of the poor, a name he strove to embody throughout his papacy.

Apparently one of the first and kind of shocking things that he did,

after he was selected as Pope, and then you go out into the big balcony in Rome, and he didn't wear the big red cape.

No.

And that was a big break with tradition.

If I'm not mistaken also, he shunned a lot of the trappings of the Pope.

Like, I guess there are like custom made, I think they're Gucci shoes or Versace shoes.

Yes.

That they're made for, and he didn't want to, he wanted to keep

his look, his ideas as just about service, about helping about being about being of the people.

He tried his darkness to be of the people, which, you know, is very, very admirable, especially in this time of our of world leadership.

Yes.

In 2018, Francis took a small step in reconciliation.

This is from TMJ for apologizing to abuse survivors.

After defending a Chilean bishop who was accused of ignoring abuse, later he apologized to scores of indigenous people in Canada who suffered abuse at Catholic-run schools.

He also, and I had forgotten about this, defrocked Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, who was accused of abusing men and children for decades.

Francis also addressed other areas of contention, including the role of women in the church.

putting women in more senior roles at the Vatican.

And he also made headlines in 2016 after saying the church, quote, should apologize to the person who is gay, whom it has offended and encourage parents to welcome their LGBTQ children.

That's probably going to be one of Francis's biggest points of his legacy.

And it's important to remember when Francis was Jorge,

back in South America as a Cardinal and Archbishop, he was vehemently against gay marriage.

He was vehemently against homosexual.

He very much preached the notion of this is not of God's nature.

This is not, you know, and he did something that not a lot of adults do, especially adult men, is he slowly changed his mind over time.

And he changed his where his where his message was going.

And yes, there are some things that he defended.

He never said abortion is fine.

He never said women can become priests.

He never said gay couples could get married.

He endorsed civil unions.

But the progressiveness of Francis in this, in that church, in this country, in this world.

is something that will always be remembered.

And I struggle with it myself too.

There's always things about him and the papacy that I will always have a problem with.

But I cannot deny that he came at it with a message of love, inclusivity, acceptance, and trying to be, trying to, as I said before, spread the message of Jesus, which is, you're all my children.

Yes.

It is

going to be interesting to see because he was not widely loved by all Catholics around the world.

No.

Certainly more conservative Catholics had a lot of issues with Francis and some of his messages, particularly about the gay community.

And it's also, if I remember correctly, he made it possible for divorced people to take communion.

Yes.

And just really quick, the other thing I want to mention, he said that it was okay for trans folks to get baptized in the Catholic Church.

He didn't want them to feel that they weren't part of it either.

He looked at the world from a modern viewpoints like, you're divorced.

That's a shame.

But it's part of life but it's part of life and you shouldn't be locked out of the traditions Especially especially in a world that's going to church less and less that are turning their their backs to religion because of these really rigid dogmas and and It keeps people away.

It makes people it makes people leave sadly too like I know people I know people who have left the Catholic Church not because they wanted to leave because they were told to leave

is they weren't welcome

because they weren't welcome and when you

And I just, I think that if we see anything, if we do see a, I really hope this isn't the case, but with the incoming Pope, if we see a going back to a stricter adherence to dogma, it's going to seem inconsistent and hypocritical too, because Pope Francis said it was fine.

He said it was good.

He said I'm allowed.

He said I'm welcome.

And now you're saying I'm not?

What's God's word to me then anyways?

Who says that you know anything?

You know, it's gonna bring a lot of consternation.

It will be interesting.

Again, this will be an interesting process to watch.

And I think, again, with the movie Conclave having come out last year, providing a little more insight into...

fictional, you know,

backdoor dealings

in the selection of the next pope.

I think there's going to be a lot of interest in this.

President Donald Trump did comment on his social media platform today.

Rest in peace, Pope Francis.

May God bless him and all who loved him.

Of course, during Trump's first term, Pope Francis said building a border wall was not Christian, at which point Donald Trump called him disgraceful.

It's one of those.

That was them.

Well, that's one of those tweets.

I'm like, oh, he didn't write that.

Someone else wrote that one for him because he was too busy writing some of the most poisonous messages he's ever put out on Easter.

Oh, do you would you like to share part of President Donald

Trump's Easter message

that he

posted yesterday?

For those who don't know, he went to his truth social and posted what could only be described as a long screed.

Let's see.

Of love and acceptance.

Of love and acceptance here.

Oh wait, no, that's the wrong one.

That's from Holy Week.

My apologies.

I pulled up the wrong one.

Here we go.

Happy Easter to all, including the radical left.

It just, my email just, oh here.

Happy Easter to all including the radical left lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring down murders, drug lords, dangerous prisoners, the mentally insane and well-known MS-13 gang members.

And I'm going to skip down to some other stuff here.

Sleepy Joe Biden purposely allowed millions of criminals to enter our country, totally unvetted and unchecked through an open door, open borders policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous.

He didn't write that part.

Act ever perpetrated upon America.

And then finally, yes.

And to all those who cheated in the 2020 presidential election.

You

lost.

You lost the election.

You lost.

In order to get this highly destructive moron elected, I wish you with great love, sincerity, and affection.

a very happy Easter.

Now I read like one third of that.

It rest is just as disgusting and stupid.

Did he mention haters and losers because if he didn't then I don't I guess I'm not part of his blessing and his good wishes.

He must have been he must have been told to try new language because not happy Easter to all the haters.

Radical left lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard.

That's so much softer.

That's nice.

Okay, we're going to move on.

Just about break time here.

And when we return, boy, things are moving smoothly at the Department of Defense.

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After the 1030 news, he is back.

Matt Randolph, Mr. Global should be here waiting for confirmation.

I'm pretty sure he'll be here.

He showed up a couple of weeks ago when he wasn't scheduled.

He's like, I thought I was supposed to be here, but I keep wanting to hang

out.

Yeah, wrong day.

But Mr. Global will be here.

We're going to talk about energy prices.

And what that is going to mean for heating and cooling as we head into summertime.

And we want to start firing up the air conditioning.

Mr. Global, Matt Randolph, going to join us after 10.30.

And just a reminder, make sure you join Todd Alba today from noon to two PM before he moves to his new time on Wednesday.

We're all moving.

Yep.

Todd will be from two to four starting on Wednesday.

But today at 12.30, Todd will join Civic Media's own Jimmy Cusca.

They're going to be talking about potential changes to the WIAA, and then they will have an olfactory edition of What's Worse.

Oh, oh, no.

Oh, it should be a good one.

Oh,

no.

Oh, yes.

I

joined Todd today from noon to 2 p.m.

across the civic media radio network.

More just incredible competence and security coming out of the Defense Department.

This

in political today from the headline reads, former Pentagon official warns, department's dysfunction could topple Pete Hegseth.

John Iliatt, the former top defense department spokesperson, a big Trump supporter.

I just want to clarify this from the outset.

A big Trump supporter is the one who has written this opinion piece in political

And he says the Pentagon is in total chaos.

This after the New York Times reported over the weekend, signal gate number one wasn't enough, where Pete Hegseth was sharing war plans, attack plans with a whole bunch of people, including a journalist.

Who he

accidentally added.

Yeah, who accidentally got added somehow.

That's kind of disappeared a little bit, but now it's back.

Yes, it is because now we find out That he did another signal chat again talking about this attack on Yemen that included his wife his brother and his personal attorney

What

I just want to know if the attorney's first message was, hey, Pete, can you call me right now?

Apparently not.

Well, this is a personal attorney, not a government attorney.

No, that's what I'm saying.

Even a personal attorney would know you don't, you should not be doing

this.

What is with him?

I have read reports he has taken his wife along to security briefings.

Do you remember when Hillary Clinton

was trying to do things in the White House and the way she was excoriated by being included on any kind of top level meetings.

But Pete Hexeth just brings his wife to everything.

Apparently he needs a chaperone all the time.

Hillary Clinton is a shrew because she wants it.

That's right.

Pete Hexeth is just a good husband.

He's a good American.

And then over the weekend, this happened late Friday, they fired three top officials on Friday.

Okay.

Accusing them of leaking sensitive information to the media.

What?

What?

I know.

I'm just, I'm just sharing the information.

Ugh.

EggSeth has chastised Pentagon officials for how they handled revelations about the original signal chat and then pointed to other leaks that caused embarrassment.

The guy who wrote this.

Yeah.

was sidelined after he defended the removal of a Jackie Robinson story about diversity in the military.

But again, he is a big Trump supporter.

Wait, he defended the removal?

He defended the removal.

He's a big, and he is a big Trump supporter, and he is the one who's saying this is a mess.

This is absolutely a mess.

The three fired staff,

say they do not know why they were terminated.

The three say they have not been told what exactly we're being investigated for, if there is an active investigation, or even if there was a real investigation of the leaks to begin with.

They charge that unnamed Pentagon officials have slandered their character with baseless attacks on the way out the door.

Trump advanced administration's mission to make the Pentagon great again, they all support that.

But no,

Now, one of them mentioned Pete Hegseth.

Of course you don't.

Of course you do not.

You don't mention the guy up top who's clearly one of the biggest bumbling idiots.

And so not qualified.

I mean, that is that right there.

I mean, like, like when I hear people defend the bona fides quote unquote of Pete Hegseth, that's some grade A cult drinking the Kool-Aid type of thing or flavor it if you're a historian.

The point is, is like,

They cannot admit anything of like, nah, he's not the best choice.

He's his choice.

So whatever.

But like, no, no, he's really, really qualified.

He's, he's a guy who knows what he's doing.

He's, he's there at the ground level with the troops.

No, he's not.

He worked for Fox for so many years and he's not the guy.

You want like.

Get a force there's got to be a four-star general walking around that building was like Trump is amazing Yeah, but this Pete Hexeth dude who like has no qualifications to barely work in the Pentagon let alone

run it Todd from Depeer texting and listening on WGBW and in Green Bay relax Jane I'm sure Hexeth's wife and personal attorney hacked their way into the chat Pete probably doesn't even have his wife's phone number on his phone

I don't know that you're

wrong,

bud.

People are saying, I don't know.

Many people are saying.

Many people are saying.

Many people are saying.

Oh, my gosh.

But you know what, though?

And I didn't want there to be another one of these to keep it back into the... But we shouldn't forget about these things.

They should be in our mind at all times that these sorts of actions are happening with the individuals that Trump has personally picked.

Selected,

yes.

And selected.

To run his administration, to run his cabinet.

These are the individuals who are just the best people.

Speaking of security and the most competent people, Kristi Noem's purse got stolen over the weekend.

She had her passport in there, her keys, $3,000 in cash.

I'm surprised there wasn't a guard in there.

Yeah, that's a whole nother discussion, but we have to move on.

News is coming up next.

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On Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter, it is Monday we are joined by Mr. Global.

Matt Randolph is here.

He is an oil and gas industry expert, which is not something you can just get assigned and you don't get to call yourself that.

There are actually

processes you have to go through and years in the industry you have to go through before you become an oil and gas industry expert.

I like to say that Matt, because there's always someone on a live stream who says, Mr. Global's always wrong.

I encourage them to go to your YouTube channel and tell you that you're wrong.

Yeah.

They never tell me what I'm wrong about.

They just say you're wrong.

Right.

Right.

They're kind of light on specifics.

Just this blanket, Mr. Global is

wrong.

Yeah.

The last time you were here, someone sent a message just as you were leaving, of course.

And I sent it to you.

And the whole gist of it was telling us all how easy it is to just start drilling and you just don't get it.

I'm

like, OK.

You just don't get it, Matt.

Maybe they think or mean like conceptually I'm wrong or maybe it's some more abstract thing We don't know

about must be are you even real man?

Just to clarify I just do want to clarify for people who may have never heard you on our show before You do own ace an oil company, correct?

You actually like drill for oil

Yes,

and you've been doing this a long time

Yeah, 33 years.

There you go.

Oh Just again, I just want to get that out in front For anyone who may never have caught you on our program before just do a little reset here And again man has his own channel on YouTube.

I highly encourage you to follow him on YouTube It is eye-opening you will learn so much and again, please point out the flaws in Matt's logic

That's the best part of the videos as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, me too.

I love it

We got to find joy and happiness wherever we can Matt.

That's that's kind of what it's about I wanted to start off with a drill baby drill This is what we were promised as Donald Trump was running for president It was gonna be drill baby drill and we're gonna be energy independent and everything is great So where are we right now?

Not quite a hundred days in where are we with the drill baby drill crowd?

We're

Well, I don't know where we are with the crowd, but with the drill baby drill thing, I'd still not a thing.

It's not a thing.

Yeah.

Just write that down.

Write that down.

Not

not a thing.

All right, got it.

We have less drilling rigs now than we did then.

So we're losing.

We're maybe he meant less drill baby drill, but we're certainly not drilling more.

But I thought all of Donald Trump's policies were.

As opposed to enable oil companies to drill more and therefore, you know, gas is going to come down and the price to heat and cool our homes is all going to come down.

So where are we in all of that?

Well, the only thing that enables companies to drill more is higher prices.

If they make more money.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's it.

There's nothing else.

There's no regulation.

There's there's nothing.

There's no good feeling.

Just the money, right?

They do it for money.

And so they got to have the money to do it.

And the money's not there because of the trade war.

So oil prices have fallen over the trade war and we're not drilling.

But we weren't going to drill anyway.

As soon as Trump got elected, the oil companies came out and told him, we're not going to do that.

Yeah.

Did he not talk to them at all beforehand about what their plans

were?

wanted him to do as much damage as could be done through their competition, which is renewable energy.

So the whole EPA, EV policy, through more EVs on the road, more renewable energy, that's why they elected Donald Trump.

It didn't have anything to do with them wanting to drill more.

It's because they wanted to be able to drill longer and longer way out in the future.

And Donald Trump is delivering to them what they wanted.

They're like, thanks, but

we're not going to drill.

Well, where is the price of a barrel of oil right now?

This morning, it's about, man, everything's crashing again this morning because China hit Trump in the mouth.

It's about $62 this morning, I think.

Because when we've had you on before and we've talked about this, and correct me if I'm wrong, but.

Once it gets below $60 a barrel, oil companies aren't making any money and therefore they are not going to do more drilling because it is costing them money.

So, you know, you hear about breakeven prices a lot.

You have breakeven prices for new wells, which is the cost to drill and complete a new well.

And then you have another breakeven price for existing wells that are already producing, right?

So really anything below about 70.

We'll put a stop to a lot of new drilling.

You can make money with older existing wells that are already producing under 70, but for new drills, which is very critical to the United States, you really needed about $70 because this is 2025 and inflation is a thing.

And the breakeven price continues to rise, just like the price of everything else continues to rise.

Is there

a price at which even an old rig will, you know, if the

price drops to

a certain point where they even say, yeah, turn off this set of rigs because it's not even doing anything good for us now.

It's very specific to companies because companies have different structures and contracts in place and different operating costs.

There are definitely companies out there that can drill at $60 oil, right?

So when we talk about breakeven prices, we talk about sort of the average over the whole industry in the United States, because there's other companies that can't even drill at 75.

And so what are their leases like?

What's their royalty position on their acreage?

Do they have 100% of all the mineral rights, or do they have 80%?

All of those things matter.

The issue in the United States is the decline curve on new wells.

And what that means is when you first drill a new well, it produces more than it will ever produce initially.

And as every day goes by, that production

goes down

every single day.

The best day is the first day.

That's the best day always will be, right?

But in order to just maintain production in the United States,

we have to drill probably seven or eight thousand wells a year just to keep oil production exactly the same.

So if that number drops to say five thousand as far as new wells drilled, then you're going to see a pretty significant drop in overall oil production in the United States.

If you're just joining us, Matt Randolph is here.

He is known as Mr. Global, and we're talking about oil and gas and electricity and heating our homes and all of those things.

Jack from Miramec is on the line.

Good morning, Jack.

Did you have a question for Matt?

Good morning.

Yes, I do.

Could he please explain the mineral depletion allowance that is the tax break that oil companies did?

I'm sure he's taking advantage of it.

If I had an oil company, I would be too.

Thanks a lot, Jack.

Matt, what do you want to say about that?

So there's a couple of different ones that he's talking about.

And so let's say you're an oil company and you have 100,000 acres, right?

You place a value on the oil and gas, the hydrocarbons that exist within that acreage, right?

And that value is placed on the current commodity price.

So let's say oil is 70, natural gas is 350.

You can say,

the hydrocarbons in my acreage is worth however much money.

It's supposed to call it a billion dollars, right?

Well, if the price of oil drops to say $60, then you write down, right?

That's a loss on your books because you've lost $10 per barrel of value within your acreage and you can write that off on your taxes.

Also, as you pull hydrocarbons out of your acreage,

That's called depletion because you're depleting the reservoir.

You also get a tax break for that as well.

Wow, okay.

I mean, it's not illegal, right?

You're doing what's allowed.

Yeah,

it's just like if you owned a brick and mortar business and the value of that building dropped, like if the county came in and said this building that used to be worth a million dollars is now worth $700,000.

That's a loss in your

business.

So it's the same way and renewable energy has the same thing, right?

They depreciate their wind turbines, their solar panels.

This is the way to depreciate your actual minerals that exist.

I think it's important too, I want to go back a little bit to the oil companies.

They're big.

Motivation in supporting the Trump administration was that the Trump administration wants to kill alternative energies like wind power and solar power and they just want They want to keep drilling and they want and now we're going back to coal apparently clean coal is is going to be a thing which I didn't realize coal can't be clean But you are not entirely against all forms of alternative power either even as an oil guy No,

we need

Other than coal, because I don't like coal, but we do need every type of energy we can harness right now.

Energy demand around the world is already growing at the fastest, excuse me, fastest pace ever in history.

And regardless of climate change, whether it was a thing or not, we would absolutely need all of this energy just to meet demand in the future.

So we should still be investing in solar.

We should still be investing.

I know you're not a huge fan of wood turbines, because at least when we've spoken before, you've said that the outlying cost is just not necessarily, the ROI isn't necessarily the best.

Well, it's not really about ROI.

It's about reliability.

I'm a big fan of solar.

Solar has huge upside.

In 20 years, solar isn't going to look anything like it looks right now.

It's going to be crazy.

The technology advancements we'll see.

But wind, it's more of a reliability issue and us not having.

The thing that will help wind is much better battery storage capability.

And you have to have that with wind because it's so intermittent.

So if you could pair really good battery storage with wind, it would be OK.

of, you know, you look at oil and gas, nuclear, solar, wind, hydroelectric power.

Wind is the least reliable power of all sources of power.

And that's my

issue with wind.

It has

nothing to do with the fact that it's renewable.

It's that it's the least reliable.

When you talk about improvements in solar, where are those developments going to be coming from?

Because it doesn't look like we're going to be investing in that here.

Well, everyone else will be able to enjoy that.

But just the efficiency of solar panels, you know, a solar panel's efficiency is very low right now.

And it uses only a very small amount of the actually energy it absorbs.

And when you just double, when you're able to double that, that just puts solar on a whole other different level.

And solar is going to be huge.

Everyone is saying it.

Everyone knows it.

One day solar is going to rule the world when it comes to energy, unless something else like fusion or something comes in.

But yeah, solar's got a huge upside, massive upside.

Will there also be, I mean, investments in making it smaller, like making the panels smaller and more affordable?

Yes.

Okay.

So you know how the phone used to be this big?

That's what's going to happen to solar instead of an eight by 10 solar panel on your house.

You know, one day you could literally have a single solar panel on your house that's maybe the size of a tile, like a one foot by one foot.

That's amazing.

That will power your entire house.

That is going to happen.

And when I say that, people think I'm nuts.

And I'm like, no, just think back through history of what technology has given us.

Right.

That day is coming.

that day is coming, and I think it'll happen in my lifetime, and I'm pretty old, so that says

a lot.

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And we're going to talk about the importance of organ and tissue donation.

And if you are thinking about becoming an organ donor, it's really easy to do.

You do it when you get your driver's license renewed.

And there's a little dot on there that marks you as an organ donor.

But we're going to talk about why it's so important and what an enormous difference you can make.

for people left behind.

So please stick around for that.

If you have questions for Colleen, absolutely.

You can call in.

You can also email it at janesaysatcivicmedia.us.

Right now that we're joined by Matt Randolph, who is known as Mr. Global.

I highly encourage you to follow him on YouTube.

He has his own channel.

Matt, we're going to play a little clip from one of your recent videos.

Calvin, do you have that clip ready, please?

Let's hear from Mr. Global.

We all have our own experience with Donald Trump.

Personally, I watched hundreds of businesses and tens of thousands of jobs and my industry disappeared because Donald Trump crashed the global oil and gas market.

That's in his first administration, okay?

I watched that and then I watched him convince people in the oil and gas industry that he was the best thing ever for them and that we were going to drill baby drill.

What's happening to those people right now?

Yeah, they're not drilling baby drilling that is not happening and I think it's important that again to reiterate and explain how Donald Trump crashed the market during his first administration because a lot of people aren't aware of this So if you wouldn't mind just going back over that

Yeah, so it was called the great crash in 2018 and we see some things happening right now similar to what happened in 2018

Donald Trump convinced OPEC to increase production so he could place sanctions on Iranian oil.

And once OPEC increased their production by a million barrels a day, Donald Trump granted Iran waivers and allowed them to sell oil again.

And that crashed the entire global market.

And yeah, that's the great crash of 2018.

We lost

over almost 35% of our rig count in 2019 as a result of that, that happened at the end of 2018.

There was some talk about the Jamal Khashoggi murder being a subject of that because once he got to Saudi Arabia to increase production,

then basically the United States forgave Saudi Arabia or said Saudi Arabia didn't have MBS specifically, didn't have anything to do with the Khashoggi murder.

So all that was going on at the same time too.

So it's like we traded a life for some cheap gas for a while and cost a lot of people their jobs.

That's basically what happened.

Thank you for that.

Again, I think it's important for people to understand how many things are interrelated

when we talk about these things as well.

Matt, we've got about three minutes left, and I did want to talk a little bit about we're heading into summertime.

People are going to be firing up their air conditioners.

Let's talk about the cost of energy and how things, what do you perceive over the next couple of months as far as people's electric bills and things like that?

So if we have a really hot summer, and guess what?

It's 2025, so we probably will.

It's been a long time since we haven't.

People's electric bills are going to be

They're going to be high.

They're going to be like they were in this last winter.

People were sending me $1,200, $1,400 electric bills, especially in the Northeast corridor part of the United States, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania.

There's a lot of deregulated states up there.

That is the worst place in the country, that in California for electric bills.

But we get into the summer and we get really hot temperatures.

We're going to experience that again.

Whatever you saw this last winter, if you had really high bills, you're going to see that again this summer because we use a ton of natural gas to generate electricity and natural gas prices.

have fallen some, but that's because it's spring and we're not using any temperatures are very mild.

But as soon as we start using more and with more exports, those electric bills are going to skyrocket again this summer.

But I, Donald Trump promised that we were going to be, we're going to pretty producing so much energy that I don't know.

I mean, I assume my electric bill was going to be like $10.

He said it would be cut in half.

So don't forget the fact that 100% of the oil

production increases that we've had since 2016 almost 10 years 100% of the oil production increase has all been exported.

We're not keeping any of it.

And the same thing is happening right now with natural gas and natural gas exports.

Any production or increase in production with natural gas that we see right now is going to go straight overseas, which means it makes our prices more expensive.

It's not cheaper if you don't keep it here and use it, right?

And this is why the Biden administration was trying to slow down LNG exports.

He came out and specifically said this is going to be harmful to people's utility bills.

Trump come in, you know, wanted to export all the natural gas we can.

I'm not opposed to exporting natural gas, but I am opposed to doing it.

So someone has to pay $1,500 a month for their electricity.

So some company can make another billion dollars to send it overseas when we can use it here.

That's the thing that I'm against.

And we haven't even talked about the effect of tariffs and Canada and all of that.

So we will get Mr. Global back on.

There's always so much more to cover.

There really is.

Follow him on YouTube.

It's so eye-opening.

And please, if you doubt the veracity of Mr. Global's answers,

Ask him about it.

Question him.

Tell him he's wrong.

It always works out so very, very well.

He might make a video about you.

Absolutely.

Matt Randolph, Mr. Global.

Thank you so much, Matt.

We'll see you later.

Take care, Matt.

Thanks, guys.

News coming up next.

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Good morning and welcome to Matt and Air on Air.

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and what used to be Twitter coming up a little bit later on this hour.

After the 1130 news, we try and lighten things up for the last 30 minutes of the show.

We're going to talk about song lyrics.

We all get wrong.

So start thinking about those song lyrics.

We all sing incorrectly.

That's coming up after the 1130 news.

And then we'll wrap it up as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it is the sand between your toes edition.

There is also a video.

element involved with that so I hope you can stick around.

Right now though, delighted to have her back in studio with us.

Colleen McCarthy with Versity is here along with Gloria Werner and I'm so delighted to have you both.

This is something that we're really passionate about on our show and I think the more people learn and the more people understand the less intimidating and frightening and

And more people are just more open to thinking about that's something I could do.

This is something that I would like to do.

So thank you both ladies for coming in this morning.

Colleen, you may wanna pull that mic down just a little bit so we can hear you.

All right.

Gloria, first of all, thank you for being willing to talk about your story and your experience.

If you would just explain for the audience who's listening, your experience with organ donation.

So I'm a donor mom our 14 year old son passed away as a result from a brain injury and We were faced with the question of would you Have you ever thought of organ donation and when my husband and I

Thought about it.

Our son was a very he loved helping people He we knew that he thought it was thought it was cool if he could save someone's life and we've had a really good experience through it and Actually have met his heart recipient

Wow

was a four and a half year old little boy from Green Bay only two hours from our home So through that it's made me really want to raise awareness for organ donation because the

because we have seen such a huge impact and We don't have our son, but we have we get to watch this little boy and he's 12 now.

Oh my goodness.

Yeah,

so um, so we have just come a long way So I just want to show people that even as a donor mom

that it can be rewarding.

I'm so sorry for the loss of your son first and foremost.

Thank you.

But and also grateful to you and your husband for making that decision.

That's gotta be, this is something you had obviously, you had not discussed with your son was a teenager.

I'm sure that's not the discussion that you ever had.

Right.

Were you a little taken aback when people first approached you about your son becoming a

donor?

I think, of course, you know, I think

because it's like you,

first you don't want to accept the fact that he's dying,

right?

You know, so then

when they ask you, it's kind of like, oh, you know, but our older son, when he got his license, he was approached with that question and we're like, why not?

You know, and I know I signed my license because I'm like, well, I'm not gonna need my organs when I'm gone, right?

You know, so just knowing our son, like I said, he would have,

You'd have been like, uh, you know, that's cool.

You

know, it's got to kind of feel like he's looking down now, watching this 12 year old go on to live a life.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it, and it's awesome.

And we have a great relationship with them and they come, we have a play for Kate events that we do every year to raise awareness for organ donation and they come every year and people get to meet them.

That's so awesome.

That is.

That is not necessarily the case for everyone.

Not every donor family will meet the recipient, correct, Colleen?

That's right.

That's right.

You know, it is...

such a emotional timeframe for both their transplant recipient and the donor family.

And so after some time passes, it's common for the families to decide to write each other.

But, you know, just having that connection, being able to share a little bit about who your loved one was, the transplant recipients are so grateful, you know, even if they may not have the strength to write that letter, because they may feel

all the emotions, you know, they understand that they got the second chance at life means that somebody had just a devastating loss.

And so they, these transmit recipients are so grateful.

And I think our donor families like Gloria are just amazing people.

They just the best of humanity.

And how Gloria and her family honor Cade through his legacy of

sharing with the community what this gift really did.

It's just so incredible what donation does for families, both the donor families and the transplant recipients.

Gloria, when you talk to folks, what are some of the stopping points for people?

What questions do people ask you about?

Or do you ever feel like there's this, well, that was lovely that you do that, but I could never do that because.

Well, I think some people are afraid that...

they're not gonna be saved if they have their organ if they have their license signed if they're an organ donor and There's just so many myths.

I think out there.

Is

that really a thing?

It is.

It is.

It

is.

Right.

You're right.

And that's why There's they do these outreach tables and we try to have get a raise awareness to let people know that all these myths are not true and

Just so I'm getting I just want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly

There are some people who are concerned that if you have a donor dot on your license, they're not going to work very hard to save you because they want to donate your organs.

That's not a thing.

Correct.

It's not a thing.

It's not a thing.

You know, the hospitals.

the physicians, the nurses, all the hospital staff do everything they can to preserve life to save a life.

And our organization, the organ procurement organization that serves Eastern Wisconsin, we are only involved when it is determined that a patient is futile.

And that's that partnership and collaboration between hospitals really ensures that the donor families have as much support as possible wrapped around them during a very difficult time.

And there are also very specific circumstances, correct?

that's right

in order to be able to donate an organ

that's right you know organ donation is very very rare in order for somebody to be considered

uh, as for an organ donation, they have to be in a hospital on a ventilator and pass away in a hospital.

And so that narrows down the number of people that could potentially be donors.

So

it's a

very, very specific criteria.

And if you think just, you know, from a national perspective, you know, about two and a half million deaths every single year in the United States, but only 17,000 deceased organ donors last year.

So every single opportunity is so rare and the hospitals, the donation teams just need to surround these families with as much.

support is possible to help them through this really tough time.

If you're just joining us Colleen McCarthy is here from adversity and we're talking about organ and tissue donation and Gloria Werner is here.

She is a donor mom whose son donated his organs in his heart and now a 12 year old is moving forward with a life because of that wonderful gift that you gave.

How many people are signed up to be organ donors?

In Wisconsin, about 54% of people that have a driver's license are signed up.

That's not terrible.

It's not terrible, but I know in Wisconsin we can do better.

I think, you know, when just the public polls say, you know, 90% plus people support organ donation, but just a little over half actually take the step to sign up.

And so this is why we are in the community.

This is why we are so happy to partner with Gloria and Play4K to keep spreading awareness.

It wouldn't it be amazing if 90% of people that think donation is a positive thing to take

that stuff to actually sign up.

Are we just all assuming that someone else is going to do this?

Is that what it is?

I

think so.

And people don't talk to their families about their wishes either.

That's the other thing.

If

you are signed up, talk to your family because it's really hard for the families to let them go or to do that sometimes.

But if this is something that you want, you need to talk to your family so that they don't override this decision that is yours, right?

to make sure that they understand what you want.

That's right.

You know, donation should be part of all your advanced health care planning, end of life planning.

And it's an important decision to make.

And I think it's not a fun topic to talk about sometimes.

It's not.

You have to take the step to plan for what you would want.

And when you make that decision, when you sign up to be an organ donor, that is a legal decision.

And so you want to be able to share that with your family.

But that is just the decision that we will honor.

people have the right to make that decision for themselves.

But when that time comes, it is just a very difficult time for family.

And so if the family understands and knows what their loved ones' wishes are, that helps just a little bit during a tough time.

Yep.

If you are already signed up to be an Oregon donor, please make sure that your family understands what your wishes are.

As you said, it's a difficult, horrible time.

But again, if you know what you want and what you want to see carried out on your behalf, it's just critically important to do that.

For folks who are not on a ventilator in those very specific circumstances, you can still donate, correct?

People can still be considered for tissue donation and tissue donation is an amazing gift.

One tissue donor can help over 75 people through

skin grafts.

So people that

have had suffered from third-degree burns, a skin graft can help with that.

Bone grafts can help people with fractured spines or prevent amputation.

So these gifts are life enhancing, life saving can help people walk again, can help people see again through cornea donation.

So tissue donation is so incredible as well.

So corneal donation is considered under tissue.

That's right.

Oh, that's really important to know.

That's really important to know because again, not everyone is going to fall under those very special

circumstances where you're on a ventilator in a hospital and that's where you expire.

Don't let that stop you from signing up to be an Oregon donor.

Seriously.

If 75 people, that's remarkable.

That's just remarkable.

It is.

The piece that that gives to the families is really comforting.

You know, people find healing power in donations.

So not only is it a gift for these transplant recipients, but it is also peace and comfort to the donor family that have lost a loved one.

If you have a question about organ donation, give us a call.

Send in a text 855-752-4842.

You can also leave a comment on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube and what used to be Twitter Cassandra from New London.

is up.

Cassandra will take you on the other side.

Stay close.

You're listening to Matt Nair on air.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

We'll be right

back.

Yeah!

Good morning and welcome back to Matt and Air on Air.

Jane Matt and Air, Greg Bach and Calvin B on the board coming to you from our studio here at Radio Park in Racine.

You can always join us, call or text at 855-752-4842.

Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube and what used to be Twitter.

Colleen McCarthy is here from VersaVie and so is Gloria Werner who is a donation mom.

Your son passed away about eight years ago at the age of 14, and you not only donated his heart, you were telling me off the ear gloria, but what other organs did he donate?

His liver, both his kidneys and his pancreas.

That's amazing, and you've heard from all four recipients.

Yes, we have.

His liver went to a teenage girl, and his kidney and then kidney pancreas went to two elderly gentlemen.

What did they say?

One

of the...

the kidney trans kidney recipients He was a Vietnam bet and when he was he donated one of his kidneys to his brother before he went and then now that or and now he needed one so he got Got kind of bumped on the list up on the list then so he got his get one of Cade's kidneys and the other elderly gentleman.

He was a grandpa and now he can

play with his grandkids and could live a normal life and didn't have to, you know,

probably

be in dialysis, I'm assuming.

Yeah, forever.

Yeah.

And the teenage girl that got his liver, they just said that she was doing well and hope that she.

You know continued so what

a wonderful testament for your son's life

So it was pretty pretty awesome to hear from him and that is so rare like we know we're very fortunate It's not usual that

yeah, well, and it's a very individual thing Colleen as we were talking about not everyone wants to to follow up and have that relationship But if you're able to do that, that's just a

But an extra gift, I guess.

We're going to talk to Play For Cade in just a second.

But Cassandra from New London has been waiting very patiently.

Good morning, Cassandra.

Did you have a question about organ donation?

I really had more of a comment.

So I actually am a nurse that works with donors and families.

You know, just kind of talking about like the myths and things that are out there.

I know you guys touched on it and just to kind of say, you know, we do do everything we can for these patients that come in, whether it's a traumatic brain injury or something else.

And, you know, we do everything we can and, you know, it's, it's so hard.

And I thank Gloria for coming on and telling her story because the.

The families, you know, it's it's very selfless especially in such a tough time I get a ton of you know, just I feel so much gratefulness in my job, you know when we get to do these things and You know, we truly do like I said, I can't say it enough, but we do everything that we can for these patients and then You know when we have done everything we can this is the one silver lining that we try to get from

This terrible experience because you know, it's it's hard on the care team as well, especially I mean We have had young people like Cade as well and that's always it's so hard and we we try our best and Sometimes you know, there's limits to

what you can do.

Sure.

I appreciate it Cassandra and again It's just it's important to remind people these are falsehoods that people are telling about

about organ donation and the process of organ donation, no one's going to try and speed up your demise in order to donate your organs.

That's just not how it happens.

Tell us about Play For Cade, Gloria.

So Play For Cade originated when we wanted to do something to remember Cade each year and a wonderful friend of mine, she's like, she runs the baseball program in Rubicon and Cade was huge into baseball, both my boys were.

And she's like, we're going to do a baseball tournament called Play for Cade.

And so it's morphed into like a five day.

Wow.

Yeah, we start baseball on Wednesday.

It's Mother's Day weekend every year.

And we also, so we have three levels of play for baseball.

So when we play at a couple of different locations, now all the other communities have gotten involved.

That's so cool.

It's

it's it's absolutely amazing, the support.

But then we also do beanbag tournament because at our like family camping, my nieces and nephews, they remember Kate and Cody, my other son, they always would win the bags tournament.

So my niece is like, we got to have a bags tournament.

So she runs the bags tournament and it is just, it is definitely a hoot.

And so anyway, and then we also, one of the highlights of the weekend is we get all of Cade's

friends and our oldest son, Cody's friends, and they play against the Ashpin old timers, which

is

a softball team.

And they're all like 65 to 90 year old gentlemen who they, so they play a game against them.

And it is

fantastic.

It's like a comedy sports.

They come in their Grange Rock with their walkers and their kids.

Fair fight, fair fight.

Yeah,

yeah, exactly.

Oh,

that's great.

So anyway, so we just, so, and it turned into this huge organ donation awareness is what we do.

And we have like big posters.

We feature people in the community that we know that have had either recipients or live donors or, you know, regular, you know, donors.

And it's, it's pretty awesome.

That's the best way to get the word out though, right?

Is just talking to people one-on-one if you have the opportunity to explain the process, to explain how this works, to take away some of the mystification and some of the scariness about it, right?

Which is why we like to have you here.

We've only got about a minute left.

We had one question I wanted to get to.

Can you be too old to donate, Colleen?

No, you cannot be too old to donate.

And that is another myth.

People think I'm too old, I'm too sick, but no.

The oldest donor in the United States was 96 years old and he donated his liver.

And

it really highlights, you know, these people that are waiting are so sick, they have no other option.

They will pass away if they don't get a second chance.

And so the transplant hospitals have had amazing success, transplanting organs from more medically complex donors or older donors, and they can still have a great outcome for a recipient.

If you have questions or anything, we're going to put the link in there so you can contact Verciti and find out more.

We'll also put a link in there to play for Cade.

would like if you're in the Rubicon area Hartford that's my old stomping ground that's where I grew up go go go watch the game between the old-timers and the kids that sounds great Gloria Warner thank you so very much for sharing your story really really appreciate it Colleen McCarthy always lovely to see you thank you so very much news is coming up next stay close you were listening to Matt Nair on air this is the Civic Media radio network

Good morning and welcome, welcome to Matt and Air on air.

Jane Matt and Air.

Greg Mock, Calvinator on the board, coming to you from our studio at Radio Park in Racine.

You can join us, call or text.

The number is the same, 855-752-4842.

Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream, on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter.

Want to give our thanks again to Colleen McCarthy from Verciti, and also to Gloria Warner, who is a donor mom, her son.

died at the age of 14 and went on to help four people.

Because of his organ donation.

It's amazing.

It

is amazing.

It's kind of a miracle.

Get

that dot on your driver's license.

Tom from Jackson did have a question we didn't get around to.

Do you have to die in a hospital to donate an organ?

From what I understand, Tom, you do need to be in a hospital on a ventilator in order to donate organs.

However,

Tissue donation, which can include your cornea, I believe she said.

You don't have to be in a hospital.

You don't have to be on a ventilator.

So you can still sign up to be a donor.

Even if you don't die in a hospital on a ventilator, they are going to be able to use something.

And we will put Versi's information into the show notes today.

And I encourage any and all of you to contact them with questions.

For any questions, absolutely.

And also,

to sign up for blood donations as well.

We always, always, always need blood.

There's always a shortage.

So contact them, find out more, get down there, get that dot on your ID because it's so, so very, very

important.

hundred people that's That's a that's astonishing.

That's amazing.

That's crazy pants amazing.

It

is

so again, even if you only help one person Yeah, it's worth it and talk to your families about it if you did if this is something you've decided to do as an individual I don't care how old you are.

Yeah Talk to your immediate family.

So they know what your wishes are.

Yes, absolutely.

And so they will follow those

OK, it is time to lighten things up just a little bit for the last half an hour of the show for a segment we like to call Audio Sorbet.

The Harps.

The Harps.

Set the tone.

Wrong song lyrics.

Yeah.

We've all done it.

We've all sung them.

We've all been pretty confident in what we think the band is saying until someone catches us out and goes, that's not.

That's not

you know, it's not

that's not what they're saying, you know, it's not the lyrics right that's not actually what they're saying So what song lyrics did you always get wrong?

Yeah, 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 civic we're talking wrong song lyrics Which song lyrics have you often gotten incorrect 8 5 5?

7524842.

I'll

kick it off right now.

There's an oldie but goodie.

And before I say what it is, I want Calvin to play the clip.

It is from the Beatles song, Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.

Calvin, can you play that

clip?

So growing up yes, we all know it's the girl with kaleidoscope eyes correct But I always saying that's the girl with kaleidos go by goes by

the what the girl with

kaleidos You know she's got a version of peanuts and whatnot Jane That's a bro.

It's a real condition that people she should be able to walk down the street and be recognized as a human

I'm amazed you knew what Colitis was.

Because it just sounded right to me.

I didn't realize.

I never knew what it was.

It's just the girl with Colitis.

Yeah, of course.

The girl with Colitis goes by.

Of course.

Naturally.

Yes.

And

finally some recognition

for the people who suffer with Colitis.

Exactly.

Yeah,

that was, that was a good one.

I always liked that one.

855-752-4842, witch.

Song lyrics, have you always gotten wrong?

8-5-5, 7-5-2, 4-8-4-2, Chris in Madison listening on WMDX, Bad Moon Rising, there's a bathroom on the right.

Yes, no, it's there's a bad moon on the rise.

Isn't that what it

is?

Are you sure, Jane?

I'm

pretty sure.

I think that's what the liberal

media wants you to

believe.

There's a bad moon on the rise, not there's a bathroom on the right.

There is

a bathroom

on the

right.

And

line of

match.

All right.

Tom from West Ellis is on the line.

Good morning, Tom.

Which song lyrics have you always or did you used to get wrong until it was pointed out that, yeah, it's not that.

Well, it wasn't me.

It was a friend of mine who honestly thought that Elton John's someone saved my life tonight.

He looked at me and says, why is he seeing someone shaved my wife tonight?

Wow

Tom, you may want to have a second look at that friend.

I'm not mmm But you know what?

I don't know why someone shaved his wife tonight.

It happens.

It happens just it happens We're accepting of all people.

You know, did he ever explain why he thought it

was that?

Was that the last time you ever hung out with him?

That is priceless.

Thank you

so much, Tom.

That's great.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Which song lyrics have you misheard over the years?

There's a lot of them too.

A lot of them that are classic.

People often think Justin Timberlake is singing.

It's going to be May.

And it's going to be me.

Yes.

Yes.

So that's now, well, it's, it's a, it's a thing now in this, um, and bye-bye-bye.

It's going to be me.

He says me, but he says may.

So now everyone says, Oh, you know, well, just in a few days, Jane, it's going to be

May.

It's

going to

be May.

855-752-4842.

Misheard song lyrics, which is your favorite.

Jim from Timberlake is on the line.

Good morning, Jim.

Thanks for joining us.

What is your song lyric?

Good morning.

This is Jim for Brookfield.

But anyway, all good.

The Beach Boys song, California Girls digs a French bikini.

My buddies always would sing it a fresh bikini, but it's a French bikini and a flying girl.

So anyway, with the Beach Boys, California Girls.

I appreciate it, Jim.

Thank you so much.

We all do it.

We've all done it.

When I go to the beach, I always have a fresh bikini.

You like it to be fresh.

It might be fresh.

It's new.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Steve from Madison is joining us.

Good morning, Steve.

What is your song, Lyric?

Hi, from the Stone song, Honky Tonk Woman.

I always thought it was met at Gypsy by Room Queen in Memphis, but it's gin-soaked.

Well,

to be fair, it's Mick Jagger.

You never know what he's saying.

That's true.

There's a wonderful scene in the movie Jumping Jack Flax.

with Whoopi Goldberg, where she's trying to, before the days of Google, she's trying to decode the lyrics of Jumping Jack Flash.

It's hilarious because she cannot figure out what that man is saying.

Appreciate it, Steve.

Thank you so much.

Calvin, can we play clip number two, please?

Because this is a classic one that someone has a text in about.

Play clip number two, please.

Eric from Madison.

Jimi Hendrix.

Excuse me while I kiss this guy.

That's right.

That's been misquoted for decades.

Decades.

Excuse me while I kiss the sky.

The sky.

But everyone's like, really going to kiss a guy?

I guess Jimmy's open minded.

Jimmy was cool.

He's a

cool dude.

Steve from Mount here.

A horrible listening in Madison on WMDX shares gypsies, tramps and thieves.

I said tramp and Z's.

I think

I told you this when we were kicking this around some time ago, the TV show full house.

I didn't pull a clip, but the TV show full house, their theme song starts with the lyric, whatever happened to predictability.

Okay.

And when that show came out, I was very young and I didn't really.

whatever.

I heard whatever happened to the Dicta Beniti.

I thought Dicta Beniti was like a singing group from the 50s.

Yeah.

All right.

I wasn't that smart.

I was in remedial reading.

The point is I heard that.

And one day, of course, I sang it in front of my sister and she was like, what did you just say?

I'm like, whatever happened to the Dicta Beniti?

It's like, that's not what he's saying.

Who's Dicta

Beniti?

You tell me

it's been a mystery.

Wrong song lyrics that we were convinced at one time were correct.

Wrong song lyrics 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Linda from Eau Claire is on the line.

Good morning, Linda.

Thanks for joining us.

Hi.

You know that one song, Blinded by the Light?

Yes.

That one, the chorus is wrapped up, isn't it like a douche in the night?

It's a, yep, it's a deuce.

It's a deuce.

A deuce and a quarter.

Revved up like a deuce.

Yep

You're not the only one

who's been singing

douche for a

decade.

That's

exactly what it sounds like

Yes, especially the Manford man version.

Oh, yes, the man for man sounds like you just saying do you like?

Okay.

Wow.

It's a very clean person

Liz from sockville listening on wak.

Thank you Linda really appreciate that It's so embarrassing, but I thought the Rolling Stones were singing pistachio Instead of can't start me up.

Okay

My three brothers made an entire song of alternative lyrics.

That is

very... That's a stretch.

That's a stretch.

Yeah.

Aaron Zommer says, when I first heard Get Lucky by Daft Punk on the radio, the volume was so low, I did not hear, I'm up all night to get lucky.

I heard, I love my Mexican monkey.

What?

Especially when the robots are singing it too.

I get that, Aaron.

I get that.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, misheard.

song lyrics Megan C. and Wauwatosa, listening on WAUK.

Benny and the Jets, this is classic.

She's got electric boobs, her ma has two.

You know, I read it in a magazine.

You're not alone, Megan.

They're electric, electric boobs.

But it's, she has electric boots, a mohair

suit.

A mohair suit.

You know, I read it in a magazine.

Yeah.

Um, this one for me as a Metallica fan is great.

Cause I've never heard this before.

Uh, Steven Green Bay listening to WGBW knew a guy who thought Metallica was singing sad patrol instead of sad, but true.

So I have a song called sad, but true.

But now all over here's sad patrol.

Misheard song lyrics eight five five seven five two four eight four two this one uh no name coming in on this one uh we built the city from uh starship we built this city the line is we built this city on rock and roll yes he heard it as we built this city on sausage rolls

Okay.

I like that.

All right.

Um, what are the other things too about this whole thing?

I think I don't know if Calvin brought this to the table or if you brought the article about people getting wrong lyrics tattooed on their body.

Okay.

This is, this is recent to Calvin.

I think.

Yeah.

This was trending recently.

There's a young thug.

The rapper has a lyric where he says hustlers don't stop.

They keep going, but it's become a meme where I'll just play the song.

So you know what it sounds like.

Yeah,

and it does sound like he's saying horses.

It does

sound like horses.

But

he's also not wrong.

So then this young kid got a tattoo of horses don't stop that

he's

going.

So I want to just be clear too.

He didn't just get a tattoo.

He got his entire back covered in this idea of a tattoo.

It says

Which, by the way, with gorgeous horses tattooed on his back.

Oh, that's nice.

It looks really nice, but it says, horses don't stop, they keep going.

But he's also not wrong.

And I say, find your glory, find your bliss.

Just write your own song.

Yeah, exactly.

You can write your own song to go along with it.

Song lyrics that we frequently get incorrect looking at another one.

Celine Dion's My Heart Will Go On.

Yeah.

The one from Titanic.

Yes, yes, yes.

I believe that the heart does go on.

I believe that hot dogs go on.

Well, yeah, I guess.

Okay.

All right.

And finally from Greece, I got heels.

They're made of plywood.

No, it's I got chills.

They're multiplying.

It happens.

It happens.

Wait, I got what?

We got things.

We get things wrong from time to time.

Oh my God, that's funny.

When we return, we're going to wrap up the show as we always do with Tisbat.

This shouldn't be a thing.

Stay with us, you're listening to Matt and Aaron here on The Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome back to Matt and Air on Air.

Jane Matt and Air, Greg Bach, Kelly Teenie on the board, coming to you from our studio here at Radio Park in Racine.

You can join us, call or text at 855-752-4842.

Leave a comment.

If you're watching on the live stream, on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter right before we went to the break, we were doing a little segment on Ms.

Herd's song lyrics.

And I just want to get a couple more in Stacy listening in Madison on WMDX.

My 12 year old son thought Dirty Deeds done dirt cheap was Dirty Deeds thundersheep.

I love that.

Dirty Deeds.

And you

know he said Dirty Deeds thundersheep.

Thundersheep.

Thundersheep.

Love it.

And Jan from Oak Creek just to tell you there's an older book called Cues Me While I Kiss This Guy.

That's so great.

It's a compilation of misheard song lyrics I think is out of print.

But you might be able to find it somewhere.

I found mine at a used bookstore.

It's great fun.

That's great, Jen.

We will look for that.

Have a good day and good luck on your new schedule.

Thank you

very much.

Wednesday.

When is that?

Wednesday.

Wednesday.

9

to

11.

9 to 11.

Things are going to be shifting a little bit on the civic media schedule.

Not to worry.

It's going to be mornings with Pat Kratlow from 6 to 9.

Us, we're moving up.

Greg and Kelvin and I from 9 to 11.

Tom Hartman takes over 11 to 2.

Todd Alba from 2 to 4.

Maggie Dawn from 4 to 6.

Nightlight with Pete Schwabba from 6 to 8 p.m.

Fans of John and Gordy in Madison and Mano and the mayor in Green Bay.

No worries, they're staying right there.

Earl Ingram will be continuing to do special reports and some deep dives on issues specific to Milwaukee.

So he's going to be doing a lot of great work in that way as well.

So that's all coming up on Wednesday when we shift things a little bit here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

It is 11.53, Calvin.

That means it's time for...

This shouldn't be a thing.

As always, if you have a thing you think should not be, send it in to Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us.

J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S, Jane says...

at civicmedia.us.

This is from the Herald Times reporter, Dan Basso from the Lansing State Journal with the byline, headline reads, Rock Hunter rescued after sand nearly swallows him on Lake Michigan Beach.

I found this over the weekend Saturday while at Vans Beach in Leyland, this is in northern Michigan rock hunting,

My boyfriend was quickly consumed by what looked like two inches of water right along the shore.

This is from Brian Sitka.

It took him just seconds for him to be this deep.

He was waist deep.

His leg caught sideways, which actually stopped him from sinking more, but then they couldn't get him out.

So they're looking for rocks along the shore.

on Saturday just minding their own business.

Looks like a little two inches of water.

They say firefighters who eventually got called because they couldn't get him out.

He stuck up to his waist in the sand right on the shore.

I

don't understand why Jane or Calvin or anyone isn't freaking out about this more.

This is a quick sand issue here, okay?

This isn't

something that you see very often.

No.

There's speculation that this man was walking in an area

where sand from harbor dredging had been dumped and it wasn't stable yet.

It's unexpected he hit a soft pocket where perhaps the sand hadn't settled.

We have never had an incident like this.

Yeah, of course not.

The Leyland Township Fire and Rescue were called out.

Firefighters dispatched to aid him.

They found him stuck in the sand.

They got a life jacket to him.

And they got a rope around him and got a rope around him.

And finally firefighters help dig around him so they could get his legs out.

It took about 10 minutes.

If that was me, I would just be sitting there making all the fun.

All the

jokes.

All the jokes.

Because

come on.

You could have been there for a long time.

Yeah.

Without their help says his girlfriend.

He never would have gotten out had this been a single person a child or an animal I can't say the outcome would have been the same.

Please be aware.

I don't want this to happen to you Stay safe and welcome to spring There's a video element we will include in the show notes so you can take a look at this But again, it was a happy ending.

She says after warming up we've had nothing but laughs about this

from this wild adventure.

You can call them Johnny Quicksand for the rest of his life.

Oh, Johnny Quicksand.

I like that.

Coming up on the show tomorrow, Pat Craitlow is going to be here.

We can't wait.

We cannot wait.

He's going to be joining Todd Alba.

We're going to be going back and forth between Todd and Pat Cratlow.

Moving forward here on Civic Media and then later on in the week, Sean Fetaplace from Main Street Alliance is going to join us on Wednesday in our new hours.

And we're going to talk specifically about the Trump tariffs and what is the reaction from Wisconsin's small businesses and how are they being affected by this?

Small businesses really drove Wisconsin's economic recovery after COVID.

I'm seeing videos all over the place of small businesses, farmers, everyone who's seen, all their prices going up because of tariffs.

And as all politicians will tell you,

Small business.

It's the

backbone

of America.

We'll see how

that's being handled by the Trump administration.

We'll be talking about that coming up on Wednesday.

Thank you, Greg and Calvin and all of our engineers.

Without you, nothing works.

And thank you most of all for calling and for texting and for listening and sharing your silly song lyrics.

It absolutely means the world.

I hope you find some joy today and you have the chance to share it.

Keep it right here.

News is coming up next on the Civic Media Radio Network.

We'll see you tomorrow.

Kathryn Lake

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Jane Matenaer

Good morning and welcome, welcome to Matinair on air.

Jane Matinair, Greg Bach and Calvin Butenoff coming to you live from our studio here at Radio Park in Racine.

You can always join us, call or text.

The number is the same 855-752-4842.

You can leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube and what used to be Twitter coming up after the 1030 news.

Mr. Global, Matt Randolph will be here.

He is an oil and gas industry expert.

Many things to talk about with Mr. Global, including energy prices and prices at the pump.

Which we've had many discussions about.

Many, many.

So, Matt Randolph will be joining us after the 1030 News.

If you have a question for him, please send it in to janesaysatcivicmedia.us, J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S, Jane says,

at civicmedia.us, the same for our guest in hour number two, Colleen McCarthy, whose VP of organ and tissue donation for VersaVe Wisconsin is gonna be joining us to talk about organ donation.

Greg Bach

Yep, she came through sometime last year with both a recipient and a donor.

Jane Matenaer

Yes.

The

Greg Bach

mother of a donor

Jane Matenaer

and a

Greg Bach

recipient.

So

Jane Matenaer

impactful.

So impactful.

Greg Bach

And they were here to answer questions, especially Colleen who was here to answer questions as far as

You know, when, where, how, just please give us those questions.

We want to be able to answer them for you because we know it's a scary topic, a little intimidating for some, but Colleen is here to help.

Absolutely.

Jane Matenaer

And then we will lighten things up in hour number two, starting at 1130 with a segment we now call audio Sorbet.

Little delayed Sorbet there.

We're going to talk about lyrics that we get wrong.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

Song lyrics that we have gotten wrong over the years.

You just hear it wrong, but you can't help but sing it that way.

Yeah.

And there's so many.

Greg Bach

And you never tell anybody they're wrong because if you tell people, then you're like embarrassed for the rest of your life.

Jane Matenaer

Well, until you get, unless you get caught by your singing along and you sing the wrong thing.

So that's coming up at 1130 and we will wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it's the sand between your toes edition.

Great Lakes are involved and there's a video element as well So stick around for that did want to start off this morning though with acknowledgment acknowledging rather the passing of Pope Francis who has died at the age of 88 He did make a surprise appearance yesterday for Easter services in Rome He also met with Vice President JD Vance yesterday, but the Vatican announced about 735 this morning that Pope Francis had died of course

accolades pouring in from all over the world.

If you would like to share any memories you have of Pope Francis, 8-5-5-7-5-2, 4-8-4-2, that's 8-5-5-7-5-CIVIC.

Of course, I immediately thought of the movie Conclave after the news broke because that will be happening now once the Pope is laid to rest.

And they will go into a conclave to select the new Pope, which can be a very long process.

Greg Bach

Yes, it can be.

Jane Matenaer

And not everyone was necessarily a big fan of Pope Francis.

Greg Bach

No, he was a both a transformative and a lightning rod of a figure inside and outside the Catholic Church.

And, you know, I'm a kid who was brought up Catholic, went to Catholic school, Catholic tradition, all the sacraments that I could possibly get to the point I left.

And I was a Catholic youth minister and we always had Pope John Paul and Pope John Paul II was fine.

He was charismatic.

Very much so.

But.

Pope Francis was something different.

He, I mean, you can say a lot of things about him, about the Catholic church, about his views, but you cannot deny that his word and his rhetoric definitely kind of went more with the idea of Jesus and.

helping and being of service.

Jane Matenaer

Being of service, welcoming the less fortunate, all of those things.

In 2013, Pope Francis became the first Latin American and the first Jesuit pope.

He chose his papal name to honor St.

Francis of Assisi, the patron saint of the poor, a name he strove to embody throughout his papacy.

Apparently one of the first and kind of shocking things that he did.

after he was selected as Pope, and then you go out into the big balcony in Rome, and he didn't wear the big red cape.

Greg Bach

No.

Jane Matenaer

And that was a big break with tradition.

Greg Bach

If I'm not mistaken also, he shunned a lot of the trappings of the Pope.

Like, I guess there are like custom made,

Jane Matenaer

I think they're Gucci

Greg Bach

shoes

Kathryn Lake

or

Greg Bach

Versace shoes.

Yes.

That they're made for, and he didn't want to, he wanted to keep

his look, his ideas as just about service, about helping about being about being of the people.

He tried his darkness to be of the people, which, you know, is very, very admirable, especially in this time of our of world leadership.

Jane Matenaer

Yes.

In 2018, Francis took a small step in reconciliation.

This is from TMJ for apologizing to abuse survivors.

Yeah.

After defending a Chilean bishop who was accused of ignoring abuse, later he apologized to scores of indigenous people in Canada who suffered abuse at Catholic-run schools.

He also, and I had forgotten about this, defrocked Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, who was accused of abusing men and children for decades.

Francis also addressed other areas of contention, including the role of women in the church.

putting women in more senior roles at the Vatican.

And he also made headlines in 2016 after saying the church quote, should apologize to the person who is gay, whom it has offended and encourage parents to welcome their LGBTQ children.

Greg Bach

That's probably going to be one of Francis's biggest points of his legacy.

And it's important to remember when Francis was Jorge,

back in South America as a Cardinal and Archbishop, he was vehemently against gay marriage.

He was vehemently against homosexual.

He very much preached the notion of this is not of God's nature.

This is not, you know, and he did something that not a lot of adults do, especially adult men, is he slowly changed his mind over time.

And he changed his where his where his message was going.

And yes, there are some things that he defended.

He never said abortion is fine.

He never said women can become priests.

He never said gay couples could get married.

He endorsed civil unions.

But the progressiveness of Francis in this, in that church, in this country, in this world.

is something that will always be remembered.

And I struggle with it myself too.

There's always things about him and the papacy that I will always have a problem with.

But I cannot deny that he came at it with a message of love, inclusivity, acceptance, and trying to be, trying to, as I said before, spread the message of Jesus, which is, you're all my children.

Yes.

Jane Matenaer

It is going to be interesting to see because he was not widely loved by all Catholics around the world.

No.

Certainly more conservative Catholics had a lot of issues with Francis and some of his messages, particularly about the gay community.

And it's also, if I remember correctly, he made it possible for divorced people to take communion.

Greg Bach

Yes.

And just really quick, the other thing I want to mention, he said that it was okay for trans folks to get baptized in the Catholic Church.

He didn't want them to feel that they weren't part of it either.

He looked at the world from a modern viewpoints like, you're divorced.

That's a shame.

But

Jane Matenaer

it's part of

Greg Bach

life but it's part of life and you shouldn't be locked out of the traditions Especially especially in a world that's going to church less and less that are turning their their backs to religion because of these really rigid dogmas and and It keeps people away.

It makes people it makes people leave sadly too like I know people I know people who have left the Catholic Church not because they wanted to leave because they were told to leave

Jane Matenaer

is they weren't welcome because

Greg Bach

they weren't welcome and when you

And I just, I think that if we see anything, if we do see a, I really hope this isn't the case, but with the incoming Pope, if we see a going back to a stricter adherence to dogma, it's going to seem inconsistent and hypocritical too, because Pope Francis said it was fine.

He said it was good.

He said I'm allowed.

He said I'm welcome.

And now you're saying I'm not?

What's God's word to me then anyways?

Who says that you know anything?

You know, it's gonna bring a lot of consternation.

Jane Matenaer

It will be interesting.

Again, this will be an interesting process to watch.

And I think, again, with the movie Conclave having come out last year, providing a little more insight into...

fictional, you know, backdoor dealings in the selection of the next pope.

I think there's going to be a lot of interest in this.

President Donald Trump did comment on his social media platform today.

Rest in peace, Pope Francis.

May God bless him and all who loved him.

Of course, during Trump's first term, Pope Francis said building a border wall was not Christian, at which point Donald Trump called him disgraceful.

Greg Bach

It's one of those.

Jane Matenaer

That

Greg Bach

was them.

That's one of those tweets.

I'm like, oh, he didn't write that someone else wrote that one for him because he was too busy writing some of the most poisonous Messages he's ever put out on Easter.

Oh, do you would you like to share part of?

Jane Matenaer

President Donald Trump's Easter message he posted yesterday

Greg Bach

those who don't know he went to His truth social and posted what could only be described as a long screed of love and acceptance of love and acceptance here's point

Oh wait, no, that's the wrong one.

That's from Holy Week.

My apologies.

Jane Matenaer

I pulled

Greg Bach

up the wrong one.

Here we go.

Happy Easter to all, including the radical left.

It just, my email just, oh here.

Happy Easter to all including the radical left lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring down murders, drug lords, dangerous prisoners, the mentally insane and well-known MS-13 gang members.

And I'm gonna skip down to some other stuff here.

Sleepy Joe Biden purposely allowed millions of criminals to enter our country, totally unvetted and unchecked through an open door, open borders policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous.

He didn't write that part.

Act ever perpetrated upon America.

And then finally, yes.

And to all those who cheated in the 2020 presidential election.

Jane Matenaer

You lost.

You lost the election.

Greg Bach

You lost.

In order to get this highly destructive moron elected, I wish you with great love, sincerity, and affection.

a very happy Easter.

Now I read like one third of that.

It rest is just as disgusting and stupid.

Jane Matenaer

Did he mention haters and losers because if he didn't then I don't I guess I'm not part of his blessing and his good wishes.

He

Greg Bach

must have been he must have been told to try new language because not happy Easter to all the haters.

Jane Matenaer

Radical

Greg Bach

left lunatics who are fighting and scheming

Jane Matenaer

so

Greg Bach

hard.

That's so much softer.

Jane Matenaer

That's nice.

Okay, we're going to move on.

Just about break time here.

And when we return, boy, things are moving smoothly at the Department of Defense.

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After the 1030 news, he is back.

Matt Randolph, Mr. Global should be here waiting for confirmation.

I'm pretty sure he'll be.

He showed up a couple of weeks ago when he wasn't scheduled.

Greg Bach

He's like, I thought I was supposed

Jane Matenaer

to be here.

But Mr. Global will be here.

We're going to talk about energy prices and what that is going to mean for heating and cooling as we head into summertime and we want to start firing up the air conditioning.

Mr. Global, Matt Randolph going to join us after 10.30.

And just a reminder, make sure you join Todd Alba today.

from noon to two p.m.

before he moves to his new time on Wednesday.

We're all moving.

Todd will be from two to four starting on Wednesday.

But today at 12.30, Todd will join Civic Media's own Jimmy Cusca.

They're going to be talking about potential changes to the WIAA.

And then they will have an olfactory edition of What's Worse.

Oh, oh, no.

Oh, it should be a good one.

Oh,

Jane Matenaer

yes.

I joined Todd today from noon to 2 p.m.

across the civic media radio network.

More just incredible competence and security coming out of the Defense Department.

This in political today from the headline reads, former Pentagon official warns, department's dysfunction could topple Pete Hegseth.

John Iliatt.

the former top defense department spokesperson, a big Trump supporter.

I just want to clarify this from the outset.

A big Trump supporter is the one who has written this opinion piece in Politico and he says the Pentagon is in total chaos.

This after the New York Times reported over the weekend, signal gate number one wasn't enough.

where Pete Hegseth was sharing war plans, attack plans with a whole bunch of people, including a journalist.

Who he accidentally added.

Yeah, who accidentally got added somehow.

That's kind of disappeared a little bit, but now it's back.

Yes, it is.

Because now we find out that he did another signal chat, again, talking about this attack on Yemen that included his wife.

his brother and his personal attorney.

Greg Bach

What?

I just want to know if the attorney's first message was, hey, Pete, can you call me right now?

Jane Matenaer

Apparently not.

Well, this is his personal attorney, not a government attorney.

Greg Bach

No, that's what I'm saying.

Even a personal attorney would know you don't, you should not be doing

Jane Matenaer

this.

What is with him?

I have read reports he has taken his wife along to security briefings.

Do you remember when Hillary Clinton was trying to do things in the White House in the way she was excoriated by being included on any kind of top-level meetings?

But Pete Hexeth just brings his wife to everything.

Apparently he needs a chaperone all the time.

Greg Bach

Hillary Clinton is a shrew because she wants it.

That's right.

Pete Hexeth is just a

Jane Matenaer

good husband.

He's a good American.

And then over the weekend, this happened late Friday, they fired three top officials on Friday.

Okay.

Accusing them of leaking sensitive information to the media.

What?

What?

I know.

I'm just, I'm just sharing the information.

Ugh.

EggSeth has chastised Pentagon officials for how they handled revelations about the original signal chat and then pointed to other leaks that caused embarrassment.

The guy who wrote this.

Yeah.

was sidelined after he defended the removal of a Jackie Robinson story about diversity in the military.

But again, he is a big Trump supporter.

Wait, he

Greg Bach

defended the

Jane Matenaer

removal?

He defended the removal.

He's a big, and he is a big Trump supporter, and he is the one who's saying this is a mess.

This is absolutely a mess.

The three fired staff,

say they do not know why they were terminated.

The three say they have not been told what exactly we're being investigated for, if there is an active investigation, or even if there was a real investigation of the leaks to begin with.

They charge that unnamed Pentagon officials have slandered their character with baseless attacks on the way out the door.

Trump vans administration's mission to make the Pentagon great again, they all support that.

But no,

Not one of them mentioned Pete Hegseth.

Of course you don't.

Greg Bach

Of course you do not.

You don't mention the guy up top who's clearly one of the biggest bumbling idiots.

And so not qualified.

I mean, that is that right there.

I mean, like, like when I hear people defend the bona fides quote unquote of Pete Hegseth, that's some grade A cult drinking the Kool-Aid type of thing or flavor it if you're a historian.

The point is, is like,

They cannot admit anything of like, nah, he's not the best choice.

He's his choice or whatever, but like, no, no, he's really, really qualified.

He's, he's a guy who knows what he's doing.

He's, he's there at the ground level with the troops.

No, he's not.

He worked for Fox for so many years and he's not, you want like.

Get a force there's got to be a four-star general walking around that building who's like Trump is amazing Yeah, but this Pete Hexeth dude who like has no qualifications to barely work in the Pentagon let alone

Jane Matenaer

run it Todd from Depeer texting and listening on WGBW and in Green Bay relax Jane I'm sure Hexeth's wife and personal attorney hacked their way into the chat Pete probably doesn't even have his wife's phone number on his phone

I don't know that you're wrong.

People are saying.

I don't know.

Many people are saying.

Many people are

Greg Bach

saying.

Oh my gosh.

But you know what though?

And I didn't want there to be another one of these to keep it back into the... But we shouldn't forget about these things.

They should be in our mind at all times that these sorts of actions are happening with the individuals that Trump has personally picked.

Jane Matenaer

Selected, yes, hand selected.

To run

Greg Bach

his administration, to run his cabinet.

These are the individuals who are just the best people.

Jane Matenaer

Speaking of security and the most competent people, Kristi Noem's purse gets stolen over the weekend.

She had her passport in there, her keys, $3,000 in cash.

I'm

Greg Bach

surprised there wasn't a guard in there.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, that's a whole nother discussion, but we have to move on.

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It is Monday.

We are joined by Mr. Global.

Matt Randolph is here.

He is an oil and gas industry expert, which is not something you can just get assigned and you don't get to call yourself that.

There are actually processes you have to go through and years in the industry you have to go through before you become an oil and gas industry expert.

I like to say that, Matt, because there's always someone on the livestream who says, Mr. Global's always wrong.

I encourage them to go to your YouTube channel and tell you that you're wrong.

Yeah.

They never tell me what I'm wrong about.

They just say you're wrong.

Jane Matenaer

Right.

Right.

They're kind of light on specifics.

Just this blanket.

Mr. Global is

Greg Bach

wrong.

Yeah.

The last time you were here, someone sent a message just as you were leaving, of course.

And I sent it to you.

And the whole gist of it was telling us all how easy it is to just start drilling and you just don't get it.

Jane Matenaer

I'm like, OK.

You just don't get it, Matt.

Maybe they think or mean like conceptually I'm wrong.

Or maybe it's some more abstract thing we don't know

Jane Matenaer

about.

It must be.

Are you even real, man?

Just to clarify, I just do want to clarify for people who may have never heard you on our show before, you do own an oil company, correct?

You actually like drill for oil.

Yes, I am an oil company.

Yes.

Jane Matenaer

Yes.

And you've been doing this a long time.

Yeah, 33 years.

Jane Matenaer

There you go.

Oh Just again, I just want to get that out in front For anyone who may never have caught you on our program before just do a little reset here And again man has his own channel on YouTube.

I highly encourage you to follow him on YouTube It is eye-opening you will learn so much and again, please point out the flaws in Matt's logic

That's the best part of the videos as far as I'm concerned.

Damn, me too.

I love it.

Jane Matenaer

We got to find joy and happiness wherever we can, Matt.

That's kind of what it's about.

I wanted to start off with a drill, baby drill.

This is what we were promised as Donald Trump was running for president.

It was going to be drill, baby drill, and we're going to be energy independent and everything is great.

So where are we right now?

Not quite a hundred days in.

Where are we with the drill, baby drill crowd?

We're...

Well, I don't know where we are with the crowd, but with the drill baby drill thing, I'd still not a thing.

Greg Bach

It's not a thing.

Yeah, just write that down.

Write that down.

Not

not a thing.

All right, got it.

We have less drilling rigs now than we did then.

So we're losing.

We're maybe he meant less drill baby drill, but we're certainly not drilling more.

Jane Matenaer

But I thought all of Donald Trump's policies were.

As opposed to enable oil companies to drill more and therefore, you know, gas is going to come down and the price to heat and cool our homes is all going to come down.

So where are we in all of that?

Well, the only thing that enables companies to drill more is higher prices.

Jane Matenaer

If they make more money.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's it.

There's nothing else.

There's no regulation.

There's there's nothing.

There's no good feeling.

Just the money, right?

They do it for money.

And so they got to have the money to do it.

And the money's not there because of the trade war.

So oil prices have fallen over the trade war and we're not drilling.

But we weren't going to drill anyway.

Like we told, you know, as soon as Trump got elected, the oil companies came out and told them we're not going to do that.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah.

So.

Did he not talk to them at all beforehand about what their plans

were?

wanted him to do as much damage as could be done through their competition, which is renewable energy.

So the whole EPA, EV policy, through more EVs on the road, more renewable energy, that's why they elected Donald Trump.

They didn't have anything to do with them wanting to drill more.

It's because they wanted to be able to drill longer and longer way out in the future.

And Donald Trump is delivering to them what they wanted.

They're like, thanks.

But we're not going to

Jane Matenaer

drill.

Well, where is the price of a barrel of oil right now?

This morning, it's about, man, everything's crashing again this morning because China hit Trump in the mouth.

It's about $62 this morning, I think.

Jane Matenaer

But because when we've had you on before and we've talked about this.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but once it gets below $60 a barrel, oil companies aren't making any money and therefore they are not going to do more drilling because it is costing them money.

So, you know, you hear about breakeven prices a lot.

You have breakeven prices for new wells, which is the cost to drill and complete a new well.

And then you have another breakeven price for existing wells that are already producing, right?

So really anything below about 70.

We'll put a stop to a lot of new drilling.

You can make money with older existing wells that are already producing under 70, but for new drills, which is very critical to the United States, you really needed about $70 because this is 2025 and inflation is a thing.

And the breakeven price continues to rise, just like the price of everything else continues to rise.

Greg Bach

Is there a price at which even an old rig will, you know, if the price drops to a certain point where they even say, yeah, turn off this set of rigs because it's not even doing anything good for us now.

It's very specific to companies because companies have different structures and contracts in place and different operating costs.

There are definitely companies out there that can drill at $60 oil, right?

So when we talk about breakeven prices, we talk about sort of the average over the whole industry in the United States, because there's other companies that can't even drill at 75.

And so what are their leases like?

What's their royalty position on their acreage?

Do they have 100% of all the mineral rights, or do they have 80%?

All of those things matter.

The the issue in the United States is the decline curve on new wells.

And what that means is when you first drill a new well, it produces more than it will ever produce initially.

And as every day goes by that production

goes

Jane Matenaer

down

every single day.

It's the best day is the first day.

That's the best day always will be right.

But in order to just maintain production in the United States.

we have to drill probably seven or eight thousand wells a year just to keep oil production exactly the same.

So if that number drops to say five thousand as far as new wells drilled, then you're going to see a pretty significant drop in overall oil production in the United States.

Jane Matenaer

If you're just joining us, Matt Randolph is here.

He is known as Mr. Global, and we're talking about oil and gas and electricity and heating our homes and all of those things.

Jack from Miramec is on the line.

Good morning, Jack.

Did you have a question for Matt?

Good morning.

Yes, I do.

Could he please explain the mineral depletion allowance that is the tax break that oil companies did?

I'm sure he's taking advantage of it.

If I had an oil company, I would be too.

Jane Matenaer

Thanks a lot, Jack.

Matt, what do you want to say about that?

So there's a couple of different ones that he's talking about.

And so let's say you're an oil company and you have 100,000 acres, right?

You place a value on the oil and gas, the hydrocarbons that exist within that acreage, right?

And that value is placed on the current commodity price.

So let's say oil is 70, natural gas is 350.

You can say,

the hydrocarbons in my acreage is worth however much money.

It's supposed to call it a billion dollars, right?

Well, if the price of oil drops to say $60, then you write down, right?

That's a loss on your books because you've lost $10 per barrel of value within your acreage and you can write that off on your taxes.

Also, as you pull hydrocarbons out of your acreage,

That's called depletion because you're depleting the reservoir.

You also get a tax break for that as well.

Jane Matenaer

Wow.

OK.

I mean, it's not illegal.

It's right.

You're doing you're doing what's allowed.

But yeah,

it's just like if you owned a brick and mortar business and the value of that building dropped like if the county came in and said this building that used to be worth a million dollars is now worth 700,000.

That's a loss in your

business.

So

it's the same way and, you know, renewable energy has the same thing, right?

They, they depreciate their, their wind turbines, their solar panels.

This is the way to depreciate your actual minerals that exist.

Jane Matenaer

I think it's important too.

I want to go back a little bit to the oil companies.

They're big.

Motivation in supporting the Trump administration was that the Trump administration wants to kill alternative energies like wind power and solar power and they just want They want to keep drilling and they want and now we're going back to coal apparently clean coal is is going to be a thing which I didn't realize coal can't be clean But you are not entirely against all forms of alternative power either even as an oil guy

No, we need

other than coal because I don't like coal.

But we do need every type of energy we can harness right now.

Energy demand around the world is already growing at the fastest, excuse me, fastest pace ever in history.

And regardless of climate change, whether it was a thing or not, we would absolutely need all of this energy just to meet demand in the future.

Jane Matenaer

So we should still be investing in solar.

We should still be investing.

I know you're not a huge fan of wood turbines, because at least when we've spoken before, you've said that the outlying cost is just not necessarily, the ROI isn't necessarily the best.

Well, it's not really about ROI.

It's about reliability.

I'm a big fan of solar.

Solar has huge upside.

In 20 years, solar isn't going to look anything like it looks right now.

It's going to be...

It's going to be crazy.

The technology advancements we'll see.

But wind, it's more of a reliability issue and us not having.

The thing that will help wind is much better battery storage capability.

And you have to have that with wind because it's so intermittent.

So if you could pair really good battery storage with wind, it would be OK.

of, you know, you look at oil and gas, nuclear, solar, wind, hydroelectric power.

Wind is the least reliable power of all sources of power.

Kathryn Lake

And that's my

issue with wind.

Kathryn Lake

It has

nothing to do with the fact that it's renewable.

It's that it's the least reliable.

Jane Matenaer

When you talk about improvements in solar, where are those developments going to be coming from?

Because it doesn't look like we're going to be investing in that here.

Well, everyone else will be able to enjoy that.

But just the efficiency of solar panels, you know, a solar panel's efficiency is very low right now.

And it uses only a very small amount of the actually energy it absorbs.

And when you just double, when you're able to double that, that just puts solar on a whole another different level.

Um, and solar is going to be huge.

Everyone is saying it.

Everyone knows that solar's going, one day solar is going to rule the world when it comes to energy, unless something else like, you know, fusion or something comes in.

But, um, yeah, solar, solar's got a huge upside, massive upside.

Greg Bach

Well, there also be, I mean, investments in like making it smaller, like making the panel smaller and more affordable.

Yes.

Greg Bach

Okay.

So you know how the phone used to be this big?

That's what's going to happen to solar instead of an eight by 10 solar panel on your house.

You know, one day you could literally have a single solar panel on your house that's maybe the size of a tile, like a one foot by one

foot little

thing that will power your entire house.

That is going to happen.

And when I say that, people think I'm nuts.

And I'm like, no, just think back through history of what technology has given us, right?

That day is coming.

that day is coming, and I think it'll happen in my lifetime, and I'm pretty old, so that says

Jane Matenaer

a lot.

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After the 11 o'clock news, Colleen McCarthy is going to be in studio along with a couple of guests and we're going to talk about the importance of organ and tissue donation.

And if you are thinking about becoming an organ donor,

It's really easy to do.

You do it when you get your driver's license renewed and there's a little dot on there that marks you as an organ donor.

But we're going to talk about why it's so important and what an enormous difference you can make for people left behind.

So please stick around for that.

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email it at janesaysatcivicmedia.us.

Right now that we're joined by Matt Randolph, who is known as Mr. Global.

I highly encourage you to follow him on YouTube.

He has his own channel.

Matt, we're going to play a little clip from one of your recent videos.

Calvin, do you have that clip ready, please?

Let's hear from Mr. Global.

We all have our own experience with Donald Trump.

Personally, I watched hundreds of businesses and tens of thousands of jobs and my industry disappear.

because Donald Trump crashed the global oil and gas market.

That's in his first administration, okay?

I watched that and then I watched him convince people in the oil and gas industry that he was the best thing ever for them and that we were going to drill baby drill.

What's happening to those people right now?

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, they're not drilling baby drilling.

That is not happening.

I think it's important, Matt, again, to reiterate and explain how Donald Trump crashed the market during his first administration, because a lot of people aren't aware of this.

So if you wouldn't mind just going back over that.

Yeah, so it was called The Great Crash in 2018.

And we see some things happening right now, similar to what happened in 2018.

Donald Trump convinced OPEC to increase production.

So he could place sanctions on Iranian oil and once OPEC increased their production by a million barrels a day Donald Trump granted Iran waivers and Allowed them to sell oil again and that crashed the entire global market And yeah, that's the great crash of 2018 we lost over almost 35% of our rig count

in 2019 as a result of that, that happened at the end of 2018.

There was some talk about the Jamal Khashoggi murder being a subject of that because once he got to Saudi Arabia to increase production,

then basically the United States forgave Saudi Arabia or said Saudi Arabia didn't have MBS specifically, didn't have anything to do with the Khashoggi murder.

So all that was going on at the same time too.

So it's like we traded a life for some cheap gas for a while and cost a lot of people their jobs.

That's basically what happened.

Jane Matenaer

Thank you for that.

Again, I think it's important for people to understand how many things are interrelated

when we talk about these things as well.

Matt, we got about three minutes left.

And I did want to talk a little bit about we're heading into summertime.

People are going to be firing up their air conditioners.

Let's talk about the cost of energy and how things what what do you perceive over the next couple of months as far as people people's electric bills and things like that.

So if if we have a really hot summer and guess what, it's 2025, so we probably will.

It's been a long time since we haven't.

People's electric bills are going to be

They're going to be high.

They're going to be like they were in this last winter.

People were sending me $1,200, $1,400 electric bills, especially in the Northeast corridor part of the United States, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania.

There's a lot of deregulated states up there.

That is the worst place in the country, that in California for electric bills.

But we get into the summer and we get really hot temperatures.

We're going to experience that again.

Whatever you saw this last winter, if you had really high bills, you're going to see that again this summer because we use a ton of natural gas to generate electricity and natural gas prices.

have fallen some, but that's because it's spring and we're not using any temperatures are very mild.

But as soon as we start using more and with more exports, those electric bills are going to skyrocket again this summer.

Jane Matenaer

But I, Donald Trump promised that we were going to be, we're going to be producing so much energy that I don't know.

I mean, I assume my electric bill was going to be like $10.

He said it would be cut in half.

So don't forget the fact that 100% of the oil

production increases that we've had since 2016, almost 10 years, 100% of the oil production increase has all been exported.

We're not keeping any of it.

And the same thing is happening right now with natural gas and natural gas exports.

Any production or increase in production with natural gas that we see right now is going to go straight overseas, which means it makes our prices more expensive.

It's not cheaper if you don't keep it here and use it, right?

And this is why the Biden administration was trying to slow down LNG exports.

He came out and specifically said this is going to be harmful to people's utility bills.

Trump come in, you know, wanted to export all the natural gas we can.

I'm not opposed to exporting natural gas, but I am opposed to doing it.

So someone has to pay $1,500 a month for their electricity.

So some company can make another billion dollars to send it overseas when we can use it here.

That's the thing that I'm against.

Jane Matenaer

And we haven't even talked about the effect of tariffs and Canada and all of that.

So we will get Mr. Global back on.

There's always so much more to cover.

There really is.

Follow him on YouTube.

It's so eye-opening.

And please, if you doubt the veracity of Mr. Global's answers,

Ask him about it.

Question him.

Tell him he's wrong.

It always works out so very, very well.

He might make a video about you.

Absolutely.

Matt Randolph, Mr. Global.

Thank you so much, Matt.

We'll see you later.

Take care, Matt.

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As we always do, with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it is the Sand Between Your Toes edition.

There is also a video element involved with that, so I hope you can stick around.

Right now though, delighted to have her back in studio with us.

Colleen McCarthy with Vercity is here, along with Gloria Werner.

And I'm so delighted to have you both.

This is something that we're really passionate about on our show.

And I think the more people learn and the more people understand the less intimidating and frightening and and more people are just more open to thinking about that's something I could do.

This is something that I would like to do.

So thank you both ladies for coming in this morning.

Colleen, you may want to pull that mic down just a little bit so we can so we can hear you.

All right.

Gloria, first of all, thank you.

for being willing to talk about your story and your experience, if you would just explain for the audience who's listening, your experience with organ donation.

So I'm a donor mom.

Our 14-year-old son passed away as a result from a brain injury.

And we were faced with the question of would you...

Have you ever thought of organ donation and when my husband and I?

Thought about it.

Our son was a very he loved helping people He we knew that he thought it was thought it was cool if he could save someone's life and we've had a really good experience through it and Actually have met his heart recipient Wow was a four and a half year old little boy from Green Bay only two hours from our home So through that it's made me really want to raise awareness for organ donation because the

because we have seen such a huge impact and We don't have our son, but we have we get to watch this little boy and he's 12 now.

Jane Matenaer

Oh my goodness.

Yeah, so um, so we have just come a long way So I just want to show people that even as a donor mom

that it can be rewarding.

Jane Matenaer

I'm so sorry for the loss of your son first and foremost.

Thank you.

Jane Matenaer

But and also grateful to you and your husband for making that decision.

That's gotta be, this is something you had obviously, you had not discussed with your son was a teenager.

I'm sure that's not the discussion that you ever had.

Right.

Were you a little taken aback when people first approached you about your son becoming a

donor?

I think, of course, you know, I think because it's like you, first you don't want to accept the fact that he's dying, right?

You know, so then when they ask you, it's kind of like, oh, you know, but our older son, when he got his license, he was approached with that question and we're like, why not?

You know, and I know I signed my license because I'm like, well, I'm not gonna need my organs when I'm gone, right?

You know, so just knowing our son, like I said, he would have,

You'd have been like, uh, you know, that's cool.

You know, it's got

Jane Matenaer

to kind of feel like he's looking down now, watching this 12 year old go on to live a life.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it, and it's awesome.

And we have a great relationship with them and they come, we have a play for Kate events that we do every year to raise awareness for organ donation and they come every year and people get to meet them.

That's so awesome.

Jane Matenaer

That is.

That is not necessarily the case for everyone.

Not every donor family will meet the recipient, correct, Colleen?

That's right, that's right.

It is such a...

emotional timeframe for both the transplant recipient and the donor family.

And so after some time passes, it's common for the families to decide to write each other.

But, you know, just having that connection, being able to share a little bit about who your loved one was, the transplant recipients are so grateful, you know, even if they may not have the strength to write that letter because they may feel.

all the emotions, you know, they understand that they got the second chance at life means that somebody had just a devastating loss.

And so they, these transmit recipients are so grateful.

And I think our donor families like Gloria are just amazing people.

They just the best of humanity.

And how Gloria and her family honor Cade through his legacy of

Sharing with the community what this gift really did is just so incredible what donation does for families both the donor families and the transplant recipients.

Jane Matenaer

Gloria, when you talk to folks, what are some of the stopping points for people?

What questions do people ask you about?

Or do you ever feel like there's this, well, that was lovely that you do that, but I could never do that because.

Well, I think some people are afraid that

they're not gonna be saved if they have their organ if they have their license signed if they're an organ donor and There's just so many myths.

I think out there.

Is that really a thing?

It is.

It is.

It

is.

Right.

You're right.

And that's why There's they do these outreach tables and we try to have get a raise awareness to let people know that all these myths are not true and

Jane Matenaer

Just so I'm getting I just want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly

There are some people who are concerned that if you have a donor dot on your license, they're not going to work very hard to save you because they want to donate your organs.

That's not a thing.

Correct.

It's not a thing.

It's not a thing.

You know, the hospitals.

the physicians, the nurses, all the hospital staff do everything they can to preserve life to save a life.

And our organization, the organ procurement organization that serves Eastern Wisconsin, we are only involved when it is determined that a patient is futile.

And that's that partnership and collaboration between hospitals really ensures that the donor families have as much support as possible wrapped around them during a very difficult time.

Jane Matenaer

And there are also very specific circumstances, correct?

That's right.

In

Jane Matenaer

order to be able to donate an organ.

That's right.

An organ donation is very, very rare in order for somebody to be considered...

uh, as for an organ donation, they have to be in a hospital on a ventilator and pass away in a hospital.

And so that narrows down the number of people that could potentially be donors.

So it's a

very, very specific criteria.

And if you think just, you know, from a national perspective, you know, about two and a half million deaths every single year in the United States, but only 17,000 deceased organ donors last year.

So every single opportunity is so rare and the hospitals, the donation teams just need to surround these families with as much.

support as possible to help them through this really tough time.

Jane Matenaer

If you're just joining us, Colleen McCarthy is here from adversity and we're talking about organ tissue donation and Gloria Werner is here.

She is a donor mom whose son donated his organs in his heart and now a 12 year old is moving forward with a life because of that wonderful gift that you gave.

How many people are signed up to be organ donors?

In Wisconsin, about 54% of people that have a driver's license are signed up.

That's

Jane Matenaer

not terrible.

It's not terrible, but I know in Wisconsin we can do better.

I think, you know, when just the public polls say, you know, 90% plus people support organ donation, but just a little over half actually take the step to sign up.

And so this is why we are in the community.

This is why we are so happy to partner with Gloria and Play4K to keep spreading awareness.

It wouldn't it be amazing if 90% of people that think donation is a positive thing to take

that stuff to actually sign up.

Jane Matenaer

Are we just all assuming that someone else is going to do this?

Is that what it is?

I

think so.

And people don't talk to their families about their wishes either.

That's the other thing.

If you are signed up, talk to your family because it's really hard for the families to let them go or to do that sometimes.

Jane Matenaer

But if this is something that you want, you need to talk to your family so that they don't override this decision that is yours.

Right?

To make sure that they understand what you want.

That's right.

You know, donation should be part of all your advanced health care planning, end of life planning.

And it's an important decision to make.

And I think it's not a fun topic to talk about sometimes.

It's not.

So you have to take the step to plan for what you would want.

And when you make that decision, when you sign up to be an organ donor, that is a legal decision.

And so you want to be able to share that with your family.

But that is the decision that we will honor.

people have the right to make that decision for themselves.

But when that time comes, it is just a very difficult time for family.

And so if the family understands and knows what their loved ones' wishes are, that helps just a little bit during a tough time.

Jane Matenaer

Yep.

If you are already signed up to be an Oregon donor, please make sure that your family understands what your wishes are.

As you said, it's a difficult, horrible time.

But again, if you know what you want and what you want to see carried out on your behalf, it's just critically important to do that.

For folks who are not on a ventilator in those very specific circumstances, you can still donate, correct?

People can still be considered for tissue donation and tissue donation is an amazing gift.

One tissue donor can help over 75 people through

skin grafts.

So people that

have had suffered from third-degree burns, a skin graft can help with that.

Bone grafts can help people with fractured spines or prevent amputation.

So these gifts are life enhancing, life saving can help people walk again, can help people see again through cornea donation.

So tissue donation is so incredible as well.

Jane Matenaer

So cornea donation is considered under tissue.

That's right.

Jane Matenaer

Oh, that's really important to know.

That's really important to know because again, not everyone is going to fall under those very special.

circumstances where you're on a ventilator in a hospital and that's where you expire.

Don't let that stop you from signing up to be an organ donor.

Seriously.

If 75 people, that's remarkable.

That's just remarkable.

It is.

The piece that that gives to the families is really comforting.

You know, people buying healing power and donation.

So not only is it a gift for these transplant recipients, but it is also peace and comfort to the donor family that have lost a loved

Jane Matenaer

one.

If you have a question about Oregon donation, give us a call.

Send in a text 855-752-4842.

You can also leave a comment on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube and what used to be Twitter.

Cassandra from New London is up.

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Jane Matenaer

Good morning and welcome back to Matt and Air on Air.

Jane Matt and Air, Greg Bach and Calvin B on the board coming to you from our studio here at Radio Park in Racine.

You can always join us, call or text at 855-752-4842.

Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube and what used to be Twitter.

Colleen McCarthy is here from VersaVie and so is Gloria Werner, who is a donation mom.

Your son passed away about eight years ago at the age of 14, and you not only donated his heart, you were telling me off the ear gloria, but what other organs did he donate?

His liver, both his kidneys and his pancreas.

Jane Matenaer

That's amazing, and you've heard from all four recipients.

Yes, we have.

His liver went to a teenage girl and his kidney and then kidney pancreas went to two elderly gentlemen.

Jane Matenaer

What did they say?

One

of the...

the kidney trans kidney recipients He was a Vietnam bet and when he was he donated one of his kidneys to his brother before he went and then now that or and now he needed one so he got Got kind of bumped on the list up on the list then so he got his get one of Cade's kidneys and the other elderly gentleman.

He was a grandpa and now he can

play with his grandkids and could live a normal life and didn't have to, you

know,

probably be on dialysis, I'm assuming.

Yeah,

forever.

Yeah.

And the teenage girl that got his liver, they just said that she was doing well and hope that she.

you know, continued.

So what a

Jane Matenaer

wonderful testament for your son's

life.

So it was pretty, pretty awesome to hear from him.

And that is so rare.

Like, we know we're very fortunate.

It's not usual that you can do it.

Well, and it's a

Jane Matenaer

very individual thing, Colleen, as we were talking about.

Not everyone wants to follow up and have that relationship.

But if you're able to do that, that's just a

But an extra gift, I guess.

We're going to talk to Play For Cade in just a second.

But Cassandra from New London has been waiting very patiently.

Good morning, Cassandra.

Did you have a question about organ donation?

I really had more of a comment.

So I actually am a nurse that works with donors and families.

You know, just kind of talking about like the myths and things that are out there.

I know you guys touched on it and just to kind of say, you know, we do do everything we can for these patients that come in, whether it's a traumatic brain injury or something else.

And, um, you know, we do everything we can and, you know, it's, it's so hard.

And I thank Gloria for coming on and telling her story because the families.

you know, it's very selfless, especially in such a tough time.

I get a ton of, you know, just, I feel so much gratefulness in my job, you know, when we get to do these things.

And, you know, we truly do, like I said, I can't say it enough, but we do everything that we can for these patients.

And then, you know, when we have done everything we can, this is the one silver lining that we try to get from

this terrible experience because, you know, it's hard on the care team as well, especially, I mean, we have had young people like Cade as well.

And that's always, it's so hard and we try our best.

And sometimes, you know, there's limits to

Jane Matenaer

what you can do.

Sure.

I appreciate it, Cassandra.

And again, it's just, it's important to remind people these are falsehoods that people are telling about.

about organ donation and the process of organ donation.

No one's going to try and speed up your demise in order to donate your organs.

That's just not how it happens.

Tell us about Play For Cade, Gloria.

So Play For Cade originated when we wanted to do something to remember Cade each year.

a wonderful friend of mine.

She's like, she runs the baseball program in Rubicon and Cade was huge into baseball.

Both my boys were, and she's like, we're gonna do a baseball tournament called Play for Cade.

And so it's morphed into like a five day.

Wow.

Yeah, we start baseball on Wednesday.

It's Mother's Day weekend every year.

And we also, so we have three levels of play for baseball.

And we play at a couple different locations.

Now all the other communities have gotten involved.

That's so cool.

It's absolutely amazing, the support.

But then we also do beanbag tournaments because at our family camping, my nieces and nephews, they remember Kate and Cody, my other son, they always would win the bags tournament.

So my niece is like, we got to have a bags tournament.

So she runs the bags tournament and it's just...

It is definitely a hoot.

And so anyway, and then we also, um, one of the highlights of the weekend is we get all of Cade's friends and, um, our oldest son Cody's friends and they play against the Ashpin old timers,

which is

a softball team.

And they're all like 65 to 90 year old gentlemen who they, so they play a game against them.

And it is.

Fantastic.

It's like a comedy sports.

I bet they come in their grain truck with their walkers and their

Jane Matenaer

fear

fight.

Yeah, exactly.

So anyway, so we just so and it turned into this huge organ donation awareness is what we do.

And we have like big posters.

We feature people in the community that we know that have had their recipients or live donors or, you know, regular, you know, donors and it's

It's pretty awesome.

Jane Matenaer

That's the best way to get the word out though, right?

Is just talking to people one-on-one if you have the opportunity to explain the process, to explain how this works, to take away some of the mystification and some of the scariness about it, right?

Which is why we'd like to have you here.

We've only got about a minute left.

We had one question I wanted to get to.

Can you be too old to donate, Cully?

No, you cannot be too old to donate.

And that is another myth.

People think I'm too old.

I'm too sick.

But no, the oldest donor in the United States was 96 years old and he donated his liver.

Wow.

It really highlights, you know, these people that are waiting are so sick, they have no other option.

They will pass away if they don't get a second chance.

And so the transplant hospitals have had amazing success, transplanting organs from more medically complex donors or older donors, and they can still have a great outcome for a recipient.

Jane Matenaer

If you have questions or

anything.

We're going to put the link in there so you can contact Vercity and find out more.

We'll also put a link in there to play for Cade.

If you would like, if you're in the Rubicon area, Hartford, that's my old stomping ground.

That's where I grew up.

Go, go, go watch the game between the old timers and the kids.

That sounds great.

Gloria Warner, thank you so very much for sharing your story.

Really, really

appreciate

Jane Matenaer

it.

Colleen McCarthy, always lovely to see you.

Thank you so very much.

News is coming up next.

Stay close.

You were listening to Matt Nair on air.

This is the

Radio

Network.

Jane Matenaer

Good morning and welcome, welcome to Matt Nair on air.

Jane Matt Nair, Greg Mock, Calvinator on the board, coming to you from our studio at Radio Park in Racine.

You can join us, call or text.

The number is the same, 855-752-4842.

Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream, on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter.

Want to give our thanks again to Colleen McCarthy from Vercity and also to Gloria Warner, who is a donor mom for son.

died at the age of 14 and went on to help four people because of his organ donation.

It's

Greg Bach

amazing.

Jane Matenaer

It is amazing.

It's amazing.

It's kind of a miracle.

Greg Bach

Get that dot on your driver's license.

Jane Matenaer

Tom from Jackson did have a question we didn't get around to.

Do you have to die in a hospital to donate an organ?

From what I understand, Tom, you do need to be in a hospital on a ventilator in order to donate organs.

However,

Tissue donation, which can include your cornea, I believe she said, you don't have to be in a hospital.

You don't have to be an ventilator.

So you can still sign up to be a donor.

Even if you don't die in a hospital on a ventilator, they are going to be able to use something.

Greg Bach

And we will put Versi's information into the show notes today.

And I encourage any and all of you to contact them

Jane Matenaer

with any

Greg Bach

questions.

Absolutely.

And also,

to sign up for blood donations as well.

We always, always, always need blood.

There's always a shortage.

So contact them, find out more, get down there, get that dot on your ID because it's so, so very, very

Jane Matenaer

important.

hundred people that's That's a that's astonishing.

That's amazing.

That's crazy pants amazing.

It is so again, even if you only help one person Yeah, it's worth it and talk to your families about it if you did if this is something you've decided to do as an individual I don't care how old you are.

Yeah

Talk to your immediate family so they know what your wishes are absolutely and so they will follow those Okay, it is time to lighten things up just a little bit for the last half an hour of the show for a segment We like to call Audio Sorbet the harps the harps set the tone wrong song lyrics

Greg Bach

Yeah,

Jane Matenaer

we've all done it.

We've all sung them.

We've all been pretty confident in what we think the band is saying until someone catches us out and goes that's not

Greg Bach

That's not

Jane Matenaer

you know, that's not that's not what they're saying, you know, it's not the lyrics right that's not actually what they're saying So what song lyrics did you always get wrong?

Yeah, 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 civic we're talking wrong song lyrics Which song lyrics have you often gotten incorrect 8 5 5?

752-4842.

I'll

Greg Bach

kick it off right

Jane Matenaer

now.

Greg Bach

There's an oldie but goodie and before I say what it is, I want Calvin to play the clip.

It is from the Beatles song Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.

Calvin, can you play that

clip?

Greg Bach

So growing up

Jane Matenaer

yes,

Greg Bach

we all know it's the girl with kaleidoscope eyes correct But I always saying that's the girl with kaleidos go by

Jane Matenaer

goes

Greg Bach

by

Jane Matenaer

the what

Greg Bach

the girl

Jane Matenaer

with

Greg Bach

kaleidos?

Jane Matenaer

You know

Greg Bach

she's got a version of peanuts and whatnot Jane That's a it's a real condition that people she should be able to walk down the street and be recognized as a human I'm amazed you knew what kaleidos was because it just sounded right to me I didn't realize I never knew what it was.

It's just the girl with kaleidos Yeah

Jane Matenaer

Of course it's

Greg Bach

what the yeah

Jane Matenaer

naturally yes

Greg Bach

and

Jane Matenaer

finally some recognition for the people who suffer with

Greg Bach

colitis exactly yeah that was that was a good one I always liked that one

Jane Matenaer

eight five five seven five two four eight four two which song lyrics have you always gotten wrong eight five five seven five two four eight four two Chris in Madison listening on WMDX Bad Moon Rising

There's a bathroom on the right.

Yes.

No, it's there's a bad moon on the rise.

Isn't that what it is?

Greg Bach

Are you sure, Jane?

I'm pretty sure.

I think that's what the liberal media wants you to believe.

Jane Matenaer

There's a bad moon on the rise.

Not there's a bathroom on the right.

There is

Greg Bach

a bathroom

Jane Matenaer

on the right.

And line of

Greg Bach

match.

Jane Matenaer

All right.

Tom from West Alice is on the line.

Good morning, Tom.

Which song lyrics?

Have you always, or did you, used to get wrong until it was pointed out that, yeah, it's not that?

Well, it wasn't me, it was a friend of mine who honestly thought that Elton John's, someone saved my life tonight.

He looked at me and says, why is he saying someone shaved my wife tonight?

Jane Matenaer

Wow, Tom, you may want

Greg Bach

to have a second look at that friend.

I'm not mmm.

But you know what?

I don't know why someone shaved his wife tonight.

It happens.

Jane Matenaer

It

Greg Bach

happens.

It happens.

We're accepting of all people.

Jane Matenaer

Tom, did he ever explain why he thought it was that?

He honestly thought that's why

he said that Elton was singing.

Was that the last time you ever hung out with him?

Yes.

That

Jane Matenaer

is priceless.

Thank you so much, Tom.

That's great.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Which song lyrics have you misheard over the years?

There's a lot of them too.

A lot of them that are classic.

People often think Justin Timberlake is singing It's Gonna Be May.

And it's gonna be me.

Greg Bach

Yes, yes.

So that's now, well, it's a thing now in this, in bye-bye-bye.

It's gonna be me.

He says me, but he says may.

So now everyone says, oh, you know, just in a few days, Jane.

Jane Matenaer

It's gonna be may.

It's gonna be may.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, misheard song lyrics, which is your favorite.

Jim from Timberlake is on the line.

Good morning, Jim.

Thanks for joining us.

What is your song lyric?

Good morning.

This is Jim from Brookfield.

Anyway, all good.

The Beach Boys song, California Girls, digs a French bikini.

My buddies always would sing it a fresh bikini, but it's a French bikini and a Hawaiian girl.

So anyway, it was the Beach Boys, California Girls.

Jane Matenaer

I appreciate it, Jim.

Thank you so much.

We all do it.

We've all done it.

When I go to the beach, I always have a fresh bikini.

You like it to be fresh.

It might be fresh.

It's new.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Steve from Madison is joining us.

Good morning, Steve.

What is your song, Lyric?

Hi, from the Stone song, Honky Tonk Woman.

I always thought it was met at Gypsy by Room Queen in Memphis, but it's gin-soaked.

Well,

Greg Bach

to be fair, it's Mick Jagger.

You never know what he's saying.

That's true.

There's a wonderful scene in the movie Jumping Jack Flax.

with Whoopi Goldberg, where she's trying to, before the days of Google, she's trying to decode the lyrics of Jumping Jack Flash.

It's hilarious because she cannot figure out what

Jane Matenaer

that man is saying.

Appreciate it, Steve.

Thank you so much.

Calvin, can we play clip number two, please?

Because this is a classic one that someone has a text in about.

Play clip number two, please.

Eric from Madison.

Jimi Hendrix.

Excuse me while I kiss this guy.

That's right.

That's been misquoted for decades.

Greg Bach

Decades.

Excuse me while I kiss the sky.

The sky.

But everyone's like, really going to kiss a guy?

I guess Jimmy's open-minded.

Jimmy was cool.

Jane Matenaer

He's a cool dude.

Steve from Montmartre here.

A horrible listening.

In Madison on WMDX shares gypsies, tramps, and thieves, I said tramp-n-z's.

Chipsies, trappingsies.

Greg Bach

I think I told you this when we were kicking this around some time ago, the TV show full house.

I didn't pull a clip, but the TV show full house, their theme song starts with the lyric, whatever happened to predictability.

Okay.

And when that show came out, I was very young and I didn't really.

whatever.

I heard whatever happened to the Dick Debenete.

I thought Dick Debenete was like a singing group from the fifties.

Yeah.

All right.

I wasn't that smart.

I was in remedial reading.

The point is I heard that.

And one day, of course, I sang it in front of my sister and she was like, what did you just say?

I'm like, whatever happened to Dick, but it's like, that's not

Jane Matenaer

what he's

Greg Bach

saying.

Who's

Jane Matenaer

Dick Debenete?

You tell me it's

been a mystery.

Jane Matenaer

Wrong song lyrics that we were convinced at one time were correct.

Wrong song lyrics, 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Linda from Eau Claire is on the line.

Good morning, Linda.

Thanks for joining us.

Hi.

You know that one song, Blinded by the Light?

Jane Matenaer

Yes.

That one, the chorus is wrapped up, and is it like a douche in the night?

Greg Bach

It's a, yep, it's a deuce, because it's a deuce and a quarter.

Revved up like a deuce.

Yep You're not the only

Jane Matenaer

one who's been

Greg Bach

singing

Jane Matenaer

douche

Greg Bach

for decades.

Jane Matenaer

That's

Greg Bach

exactly what it sounds like.

Jane Matenaer

Yes,

Greg Bach

especially the man for man version.

Oh, yes, the man for man sounds like you just saying do you like?

Okay.

Wow.

It's a very clean person

Jane Matenaer

Liz from sockville listening on wak.

Thank you Linda really appreciate that It's so embarrassing, but I thought the Rolling Stones were singing pistachio Instead of can't start me up.

Okay

My three brothers made an entire song of alternative lyrics.

That is

Greg Bach

very... That's a stretch.

That's a stretch.

Yeah.

Aaron Zommer says, when I first heard Get Lucky by Daft Punk on the radio, the volume was so low, I did not hear, I'm up all night to get lucky.

I heard, I love my Mexican monkey.

What?

It's, I get, especially, especially when the robots are singing it too.

I get that,

Jane Matenaer

Aaron.

I get that.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, Ms.

Herd, song lyrics, Megan C. and Walward Tosa, listening on W-A-U-K.

Benny and the Jets, this is classic.

She's got electric boobs, her ma has two.

You know, I read it in a magazine.

You're not alone, Megan.

There are a lot of electric, electric boobs.

But she has electric boots, a mohair suit.

Greg Bach

A mohair suit.

You know I read it

Jane Matenaer

in.

In a

Greg Bach

magazine.

Yeah.

This one for me as a Metallica fan is great because I've never heard this before.

Steven Greenbay listening to WGBW knew a guy who thought Metallica was singing sad patrol instead of sad but true.

So I have a song called Sad But True, but now all I'll ever hear is sad patrol.

Jane Matenaer

Misheard song lyrics eight five five seven five two four eight four two this one uh no name coming in on this one uh we built the city from uh starship we built this city the line is we built this city on rock and roll yes he heard it as we built this city on sausage rolls

Greg Bach

Okay.

I like that.

All right.

Um, what are the other things too about this whole thing?

I think I don't know if Calvin brought this to the table or if you brought the article about people getting wrong lyrics tattooed on their body.

Okay.

Jane Matenaer

This is, this is recent to Calvin, I think.

Yeah.

This was trending recently.

There's a young thug.

The rapper has a lyric where he says hustlers don't stop.

They keep going, but it's become a meme where I'll just play the song.

So you know what it sounds like.

Yeah,

and it does sound like he's saying horses.

It does sound like horses.

But he's also not wrong.

So then this young kid got a tattoo of horses don't stop that he's going.

Greg Bach

So I want to just be clear too.

He didn't just get a tattoo.

He got his entire back covered.

in this idea of a tattoo that says, which by the way, with gorgeous horses tattooed on

Jane Matenaer

his back, it

Greg Bach

looks really nice, but it says horses don't stop, they keep going.

But he's also not wrong.

And I say, find your, find your glory, find your

Jane Matenaer

bliss.

Just write your own song.

Yeah, exactly.

You can write your own song to go along with it.

Song lyrics that we frequently get incorrect looking at another one.

Celine Dion's My Heart Will Go On.

Yeah.

The one from Titanic.

Yes, yes, yes.

believe that the heart does go on I believe that hot dogs go on well yeah I guess okay all right and finally from Greece I got heels they're made of plywood no it's I got chills they're multiplying

It happens.

It happens.

Wait, I got what?

We got things.

We get things wrong from time to time.

Greg Bach

Oh my god, that's funny.

Jane Matenaer

When we return, we're going to wrap up the show as we always do with Tisbat.

This shouldn't be a thing.

Stay with us.

You're listening to Matt Nair on air on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Jane Matenaer

Welcome back to Matt and Air on Air.

Jane Matt and Air, Greg Bott, Kelly Teeny on the board, coming to you from our studio here at Radio Park in Racine.

You can join us, call or text at 855-752-4842.

Leave a comment.

If you're watching on the live stream, on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter right before we went to the break, we were doing a little segment on misheard song lyrics.

And I just want to get a couple more in Stacy listening in Madison on WMDX.

My 12 year old son thought Dirty Deeds done dirt cheap was Dirty Deeds Thundersheep.

Greg Bach

I love that.

Jane Matenaer

Dirty Deeds.

And you

Greg Bach

know he said Dirty Deeds

Jane Matenaer

Thundersheep.

Greg Bach

Thundersheep.

Thundersheep.

Jane Matenaer

Love it.

And Jan from Oak Creek just to tell you there's an older book called Cues Me While I Kiss This Guy.

That's so great.

It's a compilation of misheard song lyrics I think is out of print.

But you might be able to find it somewhere.

I found mine at a used bookstore.

It's great fun.

That's great, Jen.

We will look for that.

Have a good day and good luck on your new schedule.

Greg Bach

Thank you very

Jane Matenaer

much.

Wednesday.

Greg Bach

When is that?

Wednesday.

Jane Matenaer

Wednesday.

9 to 11.

9 to 11.

Things are going to be shifting a little bit on the civic media schedule.

Not to worry.

It's going to be mornings with Pat Kratlow from six to nine.

Us, we're moving up.

Greg and Kelvin and I from 9 to 11.

Tom Hartman takes over 11 to 2.

Todd Alba from 2 to 4.

Maggie Dawn from 4 to 6.

Nightlight with Pete Schwabba from 6 to 8 p.m.

Fans of John and Gordy in Madison and Mano and the Mayor in Green Bay.

No worries, they're staying right there.

Earl Ingram will be continuing to do special reports and some deep dives on issues specific to Milwaukee.

So he's going to be doing a lot of great work in that way as well.

So that's all coming up on Wednesday when we shift things a little bit here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

It is 11.53, Calvin.

That means it's time for... This shouldn't be

Greg Bach

a thing.

Jane Matenaer

As always, if you have a thing you think should not be, send it in to Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us.

J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S, Jane says...

at civicmedia.us.

This is from the Herald Times reporter, Dan Basso from the Lansing State Journal with the byline, headline reads, Rock Hunter rescued after sand nearly swallows him on Lake Michigan Beach.

I found this over the weekend Saturday while at Vans Beach in Leyland, this is in northern Michigan rock hunting,

My boyfriend was quickly consumed by what looked like two inches of water right along the shore.

This is from Brian Sitka.

It took him just seconds for him to be this deep.

He was waist deep.

His leg caught sideways, which actually stopped him from sinking more, but then they couldn't get him out.

So they're looking for rocks along the shore.

On Saturday, just minding their own business.

Looks like a little two inches of water.

They say firefighters who eventually got called because they couldn't get him out.

He stuck up to his waist in the sand, right on the shore.

I

Greg Bach

don't understand why Jane or Calvin or anyone isn't freaking out about this more.

This is a quick sand issue here, okay?

This

Jane Matenaer

isn't something that you see very often.

No.

There's speculation that this man was walking in an area

where sand from harbor dredging had been dumped and it wasn't stable yet.

It's unexpected he hit a soft pocket where perhaps the sand hadn't settled.

We have never had an incident like this.

The Leyland Township Fire and Rescue were called out.

Firefighters dispatched to aid him.

They found him stuck in the sand They got a life jacket to him and they got a rope around him And got a rope around him and finally firefighters help dig around him so they could get his legs out It took about ten minutes

Greg Bach

if that was me I would just be sitting there making all the fun all

Jane Matenaer

the jokes

Greg Bach

all the because

Jane Matenaer

come on You're gonna you could have been there for a long time.

Yeah

Without their help says his girlfriend.

He never would have gotten out had this been a single person a child or an animal I can't say the outcome would have been the same.

Please be aware.

I don't want this to happen to you Stay safe and welcome to spring There's a video element we will include in the show notes so you can take a look at this But again, it was a happy ending.

She says after warming up we've had nothing but laughs about this

from this wild adventure.

Greg Bach

We call him Johnny Quicksand for the rest of his life.

Jane Matenaer

Oh, Johnny Quicksand.

And Johnny Quicksand.

I like that.

Coming up on the show tomorrow, Pat Craitlow is going to be here.

Greg Bach

We can't wait.

Jane Matenaer

We cannot wait.

He's going to be joining Todd Alba.

We're going to be going back and forth between Todd and Pat Cratlow.

Moving forward here on Civic Media and then later on in the week, Sean Fetaplace from Main Street Alliance is going to join us on Wednesday in our new hours.

And we're going to talk specifically about the Trump tariffs and what is the reaction from Wisconsin small businesses and how are they being affected by this?

Small businesses really drove Wisconsin's economic recovery after COVID.

Greg Bach

I'm seeing videos all over the place of small businesses, farmers, everyone who's seen, all their prices going up because of tariffs.

And as all politicians will tell you,

Small business.

It's the backbone of America.

Jane Matenaer

The

Greg Bach

backbone of America.

Jane Matenaer

We'll see

Greg Bach

how that's being handled by the Trump administration.

Jane Matenaer

We'll be talking about that coming up on Wednesday.

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Without you, nothing works.

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It absolutely means the world.

I hope you find some joy today and you have the chance to share it.

Keep it right here.

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We'll see you tomorrow.

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