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Big news that broke yesterday was that Ben Wickler is not going to seek reelection to head the Wisconsin Dems.
Huge news news.
He's been in that role since 2019 a few things have happened in the Wisconsin political universe since 2019 And Wichler has has played such a central role for for so much of it, you know flipping the Wisconsin Supreme Court Tony Evers getting reelected like there's a lot of really big wins that Wichler has had in his tenure as chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party And you know, I think you can almost
look at the last 15 years of Wisconsin politics as going from the Walker era to the
Wichler era.
Pat was talking about that this morning.
He said that according to the statistics, Ben Wichler in his time has raised over a quarter of a billion dollars for the state in fundraising versus Republicans who raised less than 100 million.
He's a fundraising machine.
But it's not just that.
That position
involves much more than just bringing in cash.
And I'm curious what you think Ben Wickler brought to this that really made
him a stand out.
I think there's so many different things.
Obviously, people are going to point to the fundraising.
It's easy to point to the numbers for these types of things.
But I think there is an approach to really being the big tent party that the Democratic Party wants to be and needs to be.
And I think he's somebody that will
Listen to everybody from all corners of the you know progressives and moderates and activists and different groups and things like that He's a recompobulation area subscriber, too And
so he
listens to all corners of of the Democratic Party and I think his communication strategy has been really effective You know that has been a really important part of you know kind of the approach that he was talking about bringing to the national DNC too, right?
And I think we see that here in Wisconsin in such a such a unique way
I don't know how many like state party chairs like kickoff campaign events like wickler was kicking off You know when Kamala Harris would come to last year when Tammy Baldwin is having rallies in Wisconsin It was oftentimes wickler would be the first person on stage.
I don't know how many states that's that is like that I would
think they should all do that honestly like you do if your party is the Democratic Party the person who's in charge of it should be like
That makes sense that they'd be the host in the public face and all of
that.
And I do think, you know, the approach that he's brought there, you know, from fundraising, from communication, from just like the different types of campaigns that they've, you know, propped up and just like look at the last few months and the people versus Elon Musk type of stuff that they were able to run with in the Susan Crawford campaign too.
And I just think, you know, he's really revolutionized the way that party chairs in Wisconsin.
operate and he's gonna have some big shoes to fill.
That's for sure.
Yeah, no doubt.
I mean, I'm sure there's gonna be, there are already some people who have announced that they plan to jump into this.
But I want to go back to one thing, especially about the recent race between Susan Crawford and Brad Schimmel, just about the door knockers.
And for so many years, it seemed like Democrats were avoiding heavily red areas because it's like, well, we're not gonna win.
So why should we even go there?
And
It seems to me like Wickler brought the opposite approach.
It's like we're going to knock on everybody's door and we're going to talk to everyone to hear what their concerns are, to hear what kinds of actions they would like to see taken.
Got to compete everywhere.
And he's really brought, you know, that type of approach.
And I think
I think we were in such a moment in Wisconsin after eight years of Scott Walker.
We
just felt like we were just pushed to the brink of things in just election after election, just kind of clawed back and flipping the Supreme Court and getting new maps and Tammy Baldwin getting reelected and Tony Evers getting reelected.
You look through the winning streak that Wisconsin Democrats have had over the last six, seven, eight years.
Wickler is at the very center of all of this, I think.
played such an important role in our politics.
And I was talking about this yesterday when I was on the Maggie Don show just right after the news broke.
This is a role that has taken on national prominence.
I think that has
been because of Ben Wickler being a model as a state party chair for the rest of the country.
I think one of the things, well not one of, excuse me, you asked what made him so successful, I think is,
his likability, his access.
You could easily access him as a person and talk to him.
We had him on the show many times.
He's been on our shows, Civic Media many times, because he wants to get the message out.
I also think he comes from a, and this is also to piggyback on what you said, Jane, as far as like knocking on doors.
He comes from a ground game experience and that thing of knocking on the doors, talking to people.
He's not a suit, sitting in an office, talking about how do we raise a billion dollars.
He wants to raise the money.
That is part of the gig, but he also wants,
to make sure that we are all in the know and what's going on and what they're trying to do.
So there's an energy about him.
I mean, he's, he's a, when you think about Ben Wickler, you smile because he's always smiling.
He's always so excited and that translates and that really energized Wisconsin and really brought in prominence on the national stage.
Absolutely.
And, and like you said, he's, he's.
Um, it's got so much energy.
Like we see him at, so I had this kind of bit going last year on the campaign trail, whenever I would run into Ben at an event, I would just be like, Hey, can we just do like a two minute social media video?
And I'll just be like, you know, whether I'm at the RNC or at, you know, a Harris campaign rally in Green Bay, I would just go up to Ben and just be like.
Hey, what are you doing here?
What do you have to say?
And he would just be like, ready to go.
And you just give this two minute monologue that was exactly what you're looking for and just so much energy.
And yeah, he's brought.
He's brought so much to the State
Party.
In a couple of minutes, we have left before we have to go to break.
What are some of the names that you've been seeing who might want to, because this is an elected position.
They're going
to have to
get elected to this.
Yeah.
So the Wichler's term will end in June when the State Party has its convention in mid June in Wisconsin Dells.
And Devin Ramaker, who is the former
executive director at the Democratic Party of Wisconsin.
He announced his campaign to become chair almost immediately after Wickler's announcement yesterday.
He's been a long time part of the party.
He was a leader in the Harris campaign in Wisconsin last year.
So, you know, he seems to be the kind of like
Insider right
yes
type of candidate.
He's been part of the party He's the one of those that group that's been there who's who's taken the step to become chair But I think they're gonna be I think this will be a competitive race like I don't think he's gonna going to be you know anointed That's
the next guy.
Yeah,
I imagine a wickler You know will probably have you know things to say about this race as it goes forward But I don't think he you know I don't think he necessarily wants to put a thumb on the scale for
for where things are going with that too.
I think, you know, I think you'd want to invite, you want to invite an open contest for this, right?
And so I think there's going to be a couple of names, a couple of other names that we'll jump into the mix too.
We're to continue recombobulating with Dan Schaefer from the recombobulation area.
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We're gonna lighten things up for the last half hour of the show, what we now call Audio Sorbet.
Lighten it lighten it things up getting away from politics just for 30 minutes So we can all take a breath.
So we're gonna ask about Something you did when you were younger and you are not doing it now No way know how not gonna know not gonna happen.
You cannot make me do that.
What did you do when you were younger?
And you look at it now and go, ah, no, that's coming up after the 1130 news.
Right now we're recombobulating with Dan Schaefer from the recombobulation area.
And we were talking about Ben Wickler's announcement that he is not going to be seeking reelection to head the Wisconsin Dems, other names being thrown around.
So I we're going to just throw some names at you, Dan.
And you'll see what I know.
See what you know.
I know some things.
I don't know all things.
But I know more than nothing.
You know many things.
Wow,
that was amazing.
Alex Lazarie
is a name that's being mentioned.
I don't think, I don't think Alex Lazarie is going to be in the mix for state party.
So when I was, when I was reporting on Ben Wichler's bid for DNC a couple months ago, Alex Lazarie's name was the, was frankly the name that I heard the most when I, about who might be next for state party chair.
But now I think Alex Lazarie has some other duties.
He took a job leading the host group for the 2026 FIFA World Cup.
to try to bring the World Cup to the New York area.
So I don't think he can run that bid and be state party chair in Wisconsin at the same time.
So I think Alex Lazar is out of the mix.
And that's what I talked to Pat about this morning.
I said, if you were going to be the state chair of the Democratic Party, this has to be your sole focus.
And Alex, God love him.
He's done a lot, but it would be one of his things in his portfolio.
And you can't focus on that.
He'd have to drop everything else, but you can't do.
He's a businessman.
So to me that's, no, you need someone who this is going to be their focus and their passion.
And I also, and I don't know him, and I know some of the things he's done and all of that, but I think there is, forgive me for saying this, there's a carpet beggar element there.
He's not a Wisconsinite.
He's not a true cheeser.
And, and I think, and I think true cheeser, true cheeser, but I think that will, I think that would work against him.
I do.
I
absolutely agree.
You know, I think that was part of the reason, you know, the Senate campaign didn't quite, he didn't, you know, ultimately win the nomination for, for Senate as well.
I think that's part of it.
But I think, you know,
Blanking on the exact name.
I think it's Democratic governors Association that he's been a part of Democratic governors had a pretty good year Yes,
they did
last fall even even considering so I think you know as a behind-the-scenes fundraising type of guy Organizing type of guy.
He's demonstrated that he's
a successful part of a democratic coalition, whether you want him to be the face of your state party.
I think that's a different question.
And I think, you know, perhaps his talents would be best suited elsewhere.
I think a democratic slash liberal slash progressive billionaire, because he's a billionaire, right?
I mean, he's part of a billionaire family.
Yeah.
I mean,
that shows that it's not just a Republican game when you're a billionaire and you can go out and a person like him can go out to those, those special high flutin meetings and be like, Hey,
We're trying to get things done.
You don't have to even be a liberal.
We just want to get it back from where it is right now.
So I think he's an important, important advocate to have behind the scenes in those conference rooms and those meetings with
big dollars.
I agree.
But again, I think he, I think he's better served and would serve the party better a little bit more in the background.
Talking about potential replacements for Ben Wickler, Greta Neubauer.
Greta Neubauer reached out to her yesterday.
She told me that she is not going to be running for state party chair.
So a little bit of news there, which I don't think has been reported, but Greta Neubauer is not going to have to step down party chair.
If she got the job.
Yeah.
She's the assembly minority leader.
She's been leading the assemblies, you know, campaign committee as well.
Like that's going into 2026.
That's
gonna be a big job.
You've got a
chance to flip the assembly.
Yes.
She's been a she's been an important leader there But she's not seeking the state party chair job.
All right.
What about Sarah got loose key?
Sarah got loose key You know her name came up a lot when I was talking about when I was reporting the wickler stuff during the during his bid for national chair Haven't heard her name quite as much lately But would not be all that surprised.
I mean, she's very ambitious and I admire her ambition to seek, you know a greater role
and currently as secretary of the state, she's trying to bring more to that.
She tried to bring more to the state treasurer role.
I expect we will not be hearing the last of her, but I don't know if she would necessarily be a front runner or something like that.
And then a friend of the show, friend of ours,
Joseph Pecky.
Joseph Pecky, I think, is entertaining a run.
He put a statement out yesterday.
It was kind of vague.
I didn't quite know exactly what it was trying to say, but I would not be surprised to see
him get into the mix as well.
I think that would be great.
I think he has a Ben Wickler energy in my opinion.
The man is passionate.
Wisconsin through and through, ground game mentality can speak to anyone on topics, gives you hope.
If you put that camera, if you put your phone in front of Joe's face and say, give me two minutes, he's going to give you two minutes and it's going to be substantive and it's going to have a great message.
Go ahead.
The one thing he did put out in his statement that I completely agree with is that I'm going to quote from him here.
He said, every conversation I've had about the future of our party gets to the same place.
Democrats have got to get better when it comes to how we communicate our message.
Could not agree more with that.
I don't know exactly what that means for what he's running for.
But I do think that is a really important part of what's going to be next for the party chair.
Without a doubt.
And as Greg spoke to, too, I think
Joe is the same kind of positive energy that Ben Weckler could bring because we had him on the day of the election We talked to him on April 1st and he was like let's not all jump off a bridge people You know, it's there's a lot to be positive about there's a lot to look forward to to and I think that's a really important Quality to have absolutely
We have news coming up next, and then we are gonna lighten things up a little bit, and we will also wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.
Today it's the Fast and Your Seatbelt Edition, so stay close.
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It's Friday, so Dan Schaefer is here from the Recon Population Area, also Civic Media's political editor, but we're gonna lighten things up for a little bit.
Last half hour of the show now we call it Audio Sorbet.
Get away from politics, talk about something else.
Take a breath, a collective cleansing breath.
And so we happened on this this morning because Calvin found this story about this hotel in Taiwan that has a, it's a pool Calvin that's what on the 30th or 50th floor and it's between two buildings.
So it's this big glass swimming pool.
That's between these two buildings in this high rise.
How high up is that thing Kelvin?
I'll have to look back at the story, but it's actually in London.
Oh, it's in London.
Yes, and How we came across the story is a unnecessary long story that is
Immaterial in material
but it
got us talking about I would never do that I would never swim in this pool if I was 25 years younger I probably would have no problem, but it got us on to
I'm not going to do this thing that I would have done when I was young.
I did it when I was young.
I'm not doing it anymore.
No way, no how.
You can't make me.
And for me, it's jumping out of planes.
I went skydiving three times when I was in my late 20s, early 30s.
Loved it.
It was great.
Would never do it again.
Because now I'm afraid of heights.
When did that fear start to develop?
Probably my late 30s, early 40s, and we were broadcasting from the Hancock building in downtown Chicago and they had built out that extension on the very top where you could look, you're looking at the ground.
Hot pass.
I'm not good with heights.
So even just
hearing you describe this to
me, even just hearing you describe this to me, I'm just like, nope,
nope.
There is that physical like, ugh, no.
And I couldn't even, I could not get up to the front of it and look out.
It's like, no, I'm not, no.
Bridget and I went to Memphis this past January.
And in Memphis, they have the Bass Pro Shop.
I think it's their headquarters or like their flagship store.
It's in a giant pyramid.
So if you've seen the Luxor hotel, it's a pyramid.
It's, I don't know why, but it's just what it is.
That's the Bass Pro Shop.
But you can go to the Sky Deck.
and you can for eight dollars go up to the sky deck and you walk around but at one point some parts of it are just like three foot see-through plastic glass play and and I told you before I knew it was like my smart brain knew it was safe
Saw people walking on it.
It was fine, but I looked like a child up there because I was like you never know You never know I can be the one I can be the one who don't I can be the one that causes a disaster.
I'll just it's fine like it was
When I looked directly out, which by the way, it was beautiful.
It was the Cumberland River.
You saw Arkansas from there.
It was gorgeous.
But then you look down, you're like, no, I can't do it.
What is something that you did when you were young, but you would never do it now?
855-752-4842 can be anything.
It could be rollerblading.
It could be rollerscoasters.
That's me, roller coasters.
You
don't roller coaster.
I
was, I was very afraid of roller coasters as a little kid cause it just looked very scary.
And then one time my friend said, just go with me on one.
We went on the demon at great America and I had a really good time.
Really and I was trying to remember the name of the blue roller coaster.
It's no longer there at Great America
shock wave
shock wave
Trying to think
of it.
Can I come to thinking I kept thinking thunder wave?
I'm like, that's not right But the shock wave is also was a fun and that that was fun It was a little scary, but it was more of a rush.
Uh-huh
And then at one point roller coasters became went from that to hey, do you want to come?
as close to experiencing death as possible without a lengthy commitment.
Well, try
Death Coaster 2025.
And it just became this thing of like 90 foot drop.
And like, no, I don't want that.
And so I see rollercoaster now and I get an immediate like.
That flutter,
right?
No,
thank you.
No, thank you.
Or as Chris from Waterloo puts it, just thinking about that makes a certain part of my body pucker.
Good to know.
Thank you very much.
Chris from Waterloo.
All right.
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
Whistler from Richland Center is on the line.
Good morning, Whistler.
What did you do when you were young, but you're not doing it now?
Climbing the water tower in my hometown, Spring Green.
Climbing the water tower.
Yeah,
this sounds like
Yeah, this sounds like the craziness of youths right there.
So that's just one of those outside ladders, right?
But it has a ring around it and it was only like 50 yards from my house
Oh geez,
you know in a school right there playground had to
Yeah,
oh, yeah, it's
there.
I
get it.
Yeah, it reminds me it reminds me of those scenes from that 70s show There were they would always like every few episodes they'd be on the water tower
talking and break paint the pot leaf on the
water tower
or
whatever
it is.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Appreciate that whistler.
Thank you so much.
And I love that.
I love it.
It was there.
You had to.
Well, right.
You know, it's right there.
It's in my backyard.
Matt from Middleton listening in text says, climbing a tree as an adult, you look like a crazy person.
That could be an event, though.
Adult tree climbing.
I can see that catching on, yes.
855-752-4842.
Things you did when you were young.
but you wouldn't do it now.
Yeah.
Um, Douglas from Madison, Jane, I feel like you, this, this one you can identify with driving too fast or taking risks driving.
Why are we more reckless when young, when we have more life at risk?
That's a
good point.
Yeah.
It really is.
I've actually, this is weird.
I know this is what I've developed, not a fear, but like almost to like an anxiety and annoyance with myself if I drive in the left lane.
If I'm on 94 driving and I'm in the left lane, I immediately become anxious because I feel like that lane is designed for speed and movement.
It's the Autobahn
lane.
And
I love
being in the middle two lanes.
I love being five, five or 10 miles over the speed limit.
But over that, I don't like doing it and I can't be in the left lane or I've just feel like everyone's speeding around me and I'm just, no, thank you.
I think that's such an interesting thing though, Douglas.
And I think most of us can relate to that.
We are so much more cavalier about injuries and death when we're young.
And we have a whole bunch of life to live yet.
And now when you get to be older and we're clinging on to every moment, it's like, no, I don't want to do anything that's going to risk it yet.
Yeah, I did so many dumb things as a young man, but not doing those anymore.
No, right, right.
OK, so you asked me about this too.
I was thinking about, so I am a big live, I love live music.
I
love going to a big concert and things like that.
I used to be the guy who would wait before the concert to be like, general admission.
I'm gonna be on the guardrail.
I'm gonna be
in the pit.
I'm gonna
be in the front
row.
I'm
gonna wait for hours just so I can, you know, be the front row for the Red Hat Chili Peppers or whatever it is and stuff like that.
I'm not doing that anymore.
I'm not fighting the crowds.
I'm not going to Lollapalooza.
I'll get
a
seat.
you know, the balcony seat for like the, the, the show that I'm seeing and enjoy it.
I'm not in the pit anymore.
I have binoculars now.
I went to go see Michael McDonald at a Christmas concert years ago.
And when he got on stage, everyone jumped to their seats, started clapping, whooping and yelling and about as he started playing, we all sat down.
And I think that was the first, that may have been the first concert I went to where the audience sat down.
I'm like,
Oh, is this being an adult?
I love this!
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, something you did when you were young.
Watch it, wouldn't do it now.
Tom from Jackson says, doing wheelies on my motorcycle.
I wouldn't even be on a motorcycle, even
at
my young age.
eight corn fights.
What?
Oh my God.
There's got to be a story there.
Ow.
I lived on eight corn drive, eight corn fights.
Ouch.
Sure.
855-752-4842.
Angie from Monroe is on the line.
Good morning, Angie.
What did you do when you were young and you're looking at it loud going, yeah, no.
Well, we used to have a thing called the wash out in Arizona where it grew up by.
And well, I used to hitchhike it to it.
And it was in between a marine base and an army base.
Nothing like it for young teenage girls to grow up around.
And just basically hitchhike and drink with any guy.
But he was just going off to the wash.
for wheeling out in the middle of the desert with people I don't know and oh my god I'm just telling you it was a blast but yeah
yeah you look back at now and it's like you think like how did I not die
because it was different that people were just nice
I'm sorry Angie what
there was a lot of serial there was a lot of serial killers now that I watched a lot of stuff back then
You lucked out Angie, you lucked out.
Wow, that's, yeah, I feel like, but I also feel like it gives you a sense of, there's a sense of like when, as you get older than two, you're like, ah, you know, let live and let live.
And you have these stories of just being cavalier and climbing water towers.
But those aren't these the things that we, if I had kids, I would absolutely tell them, do not do any of those things.
And they would say, did you do those things?
I would say.
Ask
your
father.
I don't.
Listening on WMDX she says this might not be exciting, but I can't pull all-nighters anymore.
I totally understand Megan I feel awful for days if I stay up much later than midnight because my body just won't let me sleep in I mean apart from the fact that I I work on patch show like even if I didn't I'd still go to bed around 9 9 30 wake up around 6 and Sleeping in like people like oh you're gonna sleep in on Saturday.
I might sleep until 8
Ooh.
Ooh.
Live in large.
Yeah.
What did you do when you were young and you look at it now and go, no, no way.
Not doing it.
Cindy from Appleton is joining us.
What's your thing, Cindy?
Thanks for calling in.
I used to be a mountain bike racer.
I don't do that anymore.
Ooh.
Did you wipe out bad?
Not really so much.
It was just all the other crazy people out there.
The older I got, the crazier seemed like everybody else was getting them like.
I'm getting too old to break a neck or, you know, end up in a wheelchair because I still have to make a living and pay for a house.
And, you know, this isn't paying me very much.
So as much fun as it was, as many people as I met and all the great places we used to mountain bike race that, and I think they still do this.
It's called the Wisconsin off road series, but not going there.
I
just, I feel like, thank
you, Cindy.
Really appreciate it.
Very lucky to be led into like.
Cindy the mountain biker.
Right.
Never would have expected that.
What was your thing then you did when you were young and you think about it now and it just makes you go, oh, no, I'm not doing that.
You can't make me.
I got another one.
How about drinking spiced rum?
Drinking Captain Morgan.
I can't drink that kind of thing anymore.
How about
everybody has like a bad experience with something that they drank
early in their early years and just like, oh, no, I'm trying not doing it
again.
Yeah.
Uh, uh, I drink at a Labor Day.
party, I decided to be really fun to drink a whole bottle of McGillicuddy's by myself.
Oh, no.
And I
tasted mint for a
week, and I just
wanted to
die.
Slow gin for me.
Oh!
See, everybody's got one.
Everybody's got one.
What is the thing that
you
did as a child and you wouldn't do it anymore?
Sharky from Racine, you get the last word on this.
What you got, Sharky?
Oh my god, Fox.
Fox Lake at a 40 miles an hour crack in a whip.
I never recovered.
Oh, the game cracked the whip.
Oh,
yeah, yeah,
yeah.
Okay, a lot of you are more like adventurous than me.
I'm just like, I won't go on a roller coaster.
But everybody's got their thing.
Yeah,
definitely.
Thank you, Sharky.
Appreciate that.
Thank you, everyone, for chiming in on things we did when we were young.
And thank you, Dan.
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Right before we went to break, we were talking about things we did when we were young that we would never do now and a couple of great ones that I wanted to get in.
Mike Clemens, our colleague here and a great sports reporter for Civic Media, hitting a Taco Bell drive-through after the bar is closed.
Oh, yeah, you're gonna pay for
that.
Oh, yes.
Pay for that big time.
We have River Bob in Vernon standing up on a motorcycle while cruising down the road.
Couldn't even do that when I was young.
Please, no, thank you.
And then we have Curtis renailing down barn roof while hanging on the side with a ladder tied to a tractor on the other side of the barn pulling me up.
What are you,
a
Buster
Keaton movie?
My goodness.
That's amazing and Calvin you had one too What you did when you were young and you wouldn't do it now
Well, I just have the not exciting it's like Carnival rides like turtle worlds what not but I have a really quick story about a funny story about heights My dad is deathly afraid.
We went to the st.
Louis arch when I was
like 10 years old
boy and he went up
But he when he saw out the windows he was so afraid he pretended to be looking in our in a backpack and Crawled across the entire way to get back to
how did he really?
Yes, he was terrified that that's debilitating fear of hearts but can't heights can be really really debilitating Glad he's okay me too glad he's okay.
All right.
It's getting late.
It's 11 53 galvan that means it is time for
This shouldn't be a thing.
As always, if you ever have a thing you think should not be, send it in to Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us, J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S, janesaysatcivicmedia.us.
This one Calvin found from the BBC Emma Rossiter with the byline and the headline reads, Unsecured Penguin caused helicopter crash.
in South Africa.
An unsecured penguin in a cardboard box the cause of a crash in South Africa, the penguin had been put in a box and on the lap of a passenger, but it slid off and knocked the pilot controls just after taking off from Bird Island in January.
The South African Civil Aviation Authority says the impact sent the helicopter crashing to the ground remarkably no one on board, including the penguin, was injured.
The authority said the lack of secure containment for the penguin was responsible for creating the dangerous situation.
The flight had been conducting an aerial survey of this particular island.
After completing it, the helicopter had landed
where a specialist asked they transport one penguin back to Port Elizabeth.
This report didn't explain why this penguin had to be transported, but they took it anyway.
When the helicopter was about 50 feet off the ground, the cardboard box containing said penguin slid off the lap of the person to the right of the pilot and hit the pitch control lever, causing it to move to the far right position, which caused the helicopter to roll.
unable to recover, the main rotor blades then hit the ground, and the helicopter ultimately crashed on the starboard side.
But,
as we said, the helicopter did sustain substantial damage, but both the pilot, the passengers, and the penguin were unharmed.
The report said all situations in future should be subject to established safety protocols, and that a proper evaluation of potential hazards should have been considered
The absence of a proper secured crate meant that the penguin's containment was not suitable for flight conditions.
Buckle up, baby,
just
buckle them up.
Yeah, there's problem solved.
Taking care of that problem, but everybody got
out.
Yes,
yes.
Okay, that is the important thing.
I know.
That wraps up today's episode of.
This shouldn't be
a thing.
Coming up on Monday, Emily Zephos is going to be joining us.
And we had talked about this a little bit earlier.
There was concern about some Haitian immigrants in Wisconsin worried that they were going to be expelled.
And that has apparently now been placed on hold.
We're going to talk to Emily Zephos about that coming up on Monday.
So I hope you can join us.
Lots of things coming our way next week.
Deb Cronmiller will be here from the League
of Women Voters.
Oh my gosh, we have so much next week.
On Tuesday, they did pass the SAVE Act yesterday in the house, which if you are a married woman who took your husband's name and it doesn't match your birth certificate, you might have some extra hoops you're gonna have to go through now in order to, I don't know, vote.
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