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That means Dan Shaffer will be here from the Recon Population Area after the 11 o'clock news.
Lots of things to talk about, including the news that just broke yesterday that Ben Wickler is not going to run for reelection to head the Wisconsin Dems.
We'll throw it out there and see what you think.
This is from Wisconsin Public Radio, Joe Schultz with the byline.
Democratic state lawmakers announced bill to crack down on election bribery in Wisconsin.
It is co-sponsored by two Democrats, including one of them, Lee Snodgrass.
Calvin, we have a clip from Representative Snodgrass.
Can we play that please?
Candidates and issue groups should use the strength of their message to attract voters to their cause, not cash bribes or promises of financial reward.
It is a gross perversion of our democracy and must not be allowed to continue in future elections.
Failing to act is tacit acceptance that our votes are for sale.
Republicans and Democrats alike decry money and influence in our elections.
Rejecting this premise is something members of both parties should be able to agree on.
We are very hopeful that the petition payment prohibition
Act will see widespread support as well as we all seek to remove undue influence and preserve our American democracy.
Well actually Jane, yes we can.
There was a poll that was conducted here in Wisconsin by a group called 1960 campaigns.
We have the information a sample size of a little over 150 people and the key takeaway is that 88% of Wisconsinites.
Let's see, I want to read the exact wording of what they say.
88% of Wisconsin voters statewide are extremely concerned or very concerned about the influence of money in politics, 88%.
And that was done via text message and interactive voice calling.
So this is, I mean, this is something my guess is that this group got together right after the election said, Hey, we've heard a lot about the news and it shows it's not everybody in Wisconsin.
It's not.
half of Wisconsin, but 88% of people contacted.
That doesn't mean they contacted 88, I'm sorry, 850 plus Democrats.
They talked to random people.
Right, right.
Is this something on which we can all agree?
Should we have a special measure to make sure that, I don't know, situation like we just went through?
Elon Musk standing on stage handing out million dollar checks.
And of course, there's always the complaints about George Soros, George Soros, George Soros.
Well, then again, we should all be able to agree on this, because Citizens United, as much as we would like it to, is not going anywhere.
Nothing It's a nothing expenditure to them.
These are people who it's point zero zero whatever of their personal wealth That says something to me where it's like if it's an if I'm giving a thousand dollars to a candidate myself That means I really believe in that candidate because that's a junk, but you know
$10 million, and that's just sort of like, ah, just take it.
10 million, 20 million.
Take it out of the French cheese budget.
It doesn't matter.
So then they shouldn't be a part of it then.
Do we agree that there needs to be a clampdown on big money in Wisconsin elections from both sides, from all sides?
Yup.
Yup.
Yes.
I don't, I don't see why this.
This wouldn't be like we're all going, yes.
Cindy from Appleton is on the line.
Good morning, Cindy.
Thank you so much for joining us.
What do you think about this?
Well, first of all, I heard that Elon Musk hasn't paid out anybody yet that he said he was going to, which I think there should be a law against that.
If you're going to make bribes, you should at least come through with them anyway.
that we can put that as an
Yeah, but I'm all for it.
The only thing is,
If we're going to do this, we cannot have somebody like we have in the White House right now who doesn't abide by the Constitution or the constitutional laws.
So I'm all for it as long as it's going to be enforced on both sides.
I agree with you completely.
Thank you, Cindy.
Really appreciate it.
This bill is aimed at tightening Wisconsin's election bribery laws in the wake of the record-setting state Supreme Court election that saw billionaire Elon Musk
handing out a pair of $1 million checks, which, as Cindy just said, we're not sure if that's been paid out yet.
But
Wisconsin's most recent state Supreme Court race was the most expensive on record.
The Brennan Center for Justice tracked more than $100 million of spending on the race.
Some 46 million backing Judge Susan Crawford, about 54 million
supporting conservative judge Brad Schimmel.
And as we said, state representatives Lee Snodgrass and Ahmad Rivera-Wagner announced that bill in a press conference yesterday morning.
While election bribery is illegal in Wisconsin, supposedly, lawmakers say they want to tighten the language in state law to stop billionaires from finding loopholes.
They also said Elon tried to circumvent the law
by paying people for signing a petition.
I mean, he made it a sweepstakes.
That's what he made a contest.
And that was the thing where everyone, when people were screaming, this is illegal, this isn't fair.
If he's just making a contest, there's nothing we could, he's not saying vote for Schimel.
He never said that.
The one thing, you know, when you're that rich, you have probably a, you know, a walkie-chase amount of lawyers working for
they're going to find the language that will make it legal and you're not going to jail, but it's also highly unethical.
And just let's also not forget how much of that money was probably given to Brad Schimel's campaign and he lost by 10 points.
That says something about Wisconsin.
That 88% of the people polled said that there's a problem with money in campaigning here in the state.
We didn't like it.
Nope.
Snodgrass says the Petition Payment Prohibition Act will expand election bribery to include payments offered in exchange for signing political petitions during an election period.
And that was Elon's thing.
You sign this petition against activist judges.
and then you could win, or then you got $100, right?
Yes, and he did, well, there was a $100 thing, there was a $20 thing, and then he was paying people $25 to knock on doors.
But he did something like this.
similar in the campaign, the presidential election too.
You click on something and you say you're going to, you, you support the first and second amendment.
Hey, we're going to give you some money and people lost their minds for that too.
It's like, yeah, it's a sweepstakes.
That's all it is.
And, and yeah, I want to see if those gigantic checks cleared.
We see you in the comments on the live streams.
This is one thing.
Please let us know.
Do you like this?
Okay.
This is, I'm, we were coming from a nonpartisan, right down the metal.
Do you have a problem with this kind of money being a hundred million dollars for a state supreme court race?
Think of all the good that that money could have done a hundred million dollars.
That record, please don't break that next time.
That's all I asked.
But yeah, I want to hear from.
Both are reps from Northeastern Wisconsin.
Cassandra says the fact that we need to even do this is ridiculous.
It should be common sense.
Money equals influence.
I would agree with you that it's common sense Cassandra, but the Supreme Court decided that money equals speech.
And companies are people.
Right.
Corporations are people.
That's working out so well.
Lee Snodgrass called on both political parties to come together to tighten Wisconsin's election bribery laws, saying there's widespread support for removing undue influence from elections.
I think this would be a good thing.
It's a good starting point.
Again, we can't, we're not, I'd love to see Citizens United overturned with the makeup of the court right now.
And if Trump gets to a point,
one or two more justices, that's never going to change.
And also remember too, like something like this gets put into action, it levels the playing field even more for individuals like ourselves to run for office, because one of the things that people are really afraid of is like, I got to raise all that money, maybe make it a little easier to make our voices be heard if you want to run for an office, especially, especially something within the state like assembly or state, state Senate, that's,
No, but anyway, this is
a measure that was introduced yesterday.
We will see what this happens if it even moves forward in the Wisconsin legislature.
And I would be very curious.
I want to see who comes out against it.
I want to see who's going to step out and say, no, this is terrible.
This is a bad idea.
We can't be cutting off the speech of all those billion and billionaires.
Hey, Axon has something to say.
I know they do.
Coming up, Brad needs a job.
I got some suggestions for him.
That's coming up next.
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Sorry guys, no more video games for you.
But Jane... No, lazy young men playing video games on couches.
Bad news coming your way.
That's coming up after the 1030 news right now though Daniel Bice in today's Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has a column after election loss Brad Schimmel Says he's eyeing Trump appointed US attorney job Unsuccessful Supreme Court candidate Brad Schimmel And current still judge by the way and still walkershaw County judge, but his term ends July 31st after six and a half years on the bench
He was elected so handily to that, oh wait.
Brett Schimmel got that job as a Waukesha County judge as a parting gift from outgoing Governor Scott Walker.
Well, I mean, that's what I've come to know of Scooter Walker is like what Daniel Kelly got on the Supreme Court.
the Wisconsin Supreme Court through nefarious deal.
He applied and he was nowhere near qualified for that job.
Scott Walker just loves to make people judges and the law is, you know, have a job, Jane.
I told about these
And I mean, Ron Johnson said it outright in an event, since becoming a senator, his wealth has doubled.
take these jobs that pay $174,000 a year.
Not a bad, not a bad junk of change for most of us.
I would absolutely take, right?
But then they walk out there being like, you know, they may have a million, $2 million, they're successful business people, but they walk out of Congress or the Senate and they're like worth 10, 20, 30, $100 million.
Oh
Do my favor first.
Brett Schimmel wrote to the journal Sentinel apparently, I am interested in the U.S.
Attorney appointments.
I have some private sector offers, but my preference is to continue in public service.
So he can keep trying to run for judge.
Well, we've heard so much about people sucking off the government.
Right eat the government teeth.
Yes sucking on the government teeth not working in the private sector Relying on the government That seems to be a pattern life long
it if your buddy has connections But the job that Brad shimmel apparently would like is now being filled in a temporary basis by Richard frailing He's been a first assistant US attorney in the Milwaukee office since 2015 Republican Ron Johnson and Democrats at that Tammy Baldwin soon will be setting up a bipartisan nominating commission
to accept and vet applications for this job, which is based in Madison.
Biden's nominee for the Western District never got confirmed by the U.S.
Senate after Ron Johnson switched his position and that wouldn't confirm her.
Yeah.
The commission will then forward names of the qualified candidates to Ron Johnson and Tammy Baldwin.
They send the names of their joint recommendations to Trump.
Trump then makes his pick.
Let's see if it's become between a Republican and Democrat.
I
I am I would pay money to the charity of your choice to see Ron Johnson and Tammy Baldwin in a room discussing U. S attorney picks Jim on Jim listening in Brookfield on It texted and as well.
I said Supreme Court Justice Rebecca Bradley owes her career to Scott Walker appointments as both a judge and the Supreme Court.
Yeah, there's so many favors that go on and that's why
even this week when they were debating the budget in the house, which eventually passed, and we had those couple of holdouts.
Yeah, they hold out until they go behind closed doors and somebody offers them something.
And then all of a sudden they're all on board.
It all makes sense.
I mean, I will, and we'll talk about this in probably in the next week or so, you know, Derek Van Orden's freak out over snap benefits in the budget and how it won't go down a single nickel.
It's going to probably go down like five, 10, 20 nickels, but yeah.
He voted for it.
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Today I don't feel like doing anything.
I just want to lay in my
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That was the point.
We're going to get to young men laying on couches, being the bane of our society in just a minute.
But Lou Ann Bird is joining us on the phone right now.
Good morning, Lou Ann.
You were out in DC, is that correct?
And so it was about the reallocation of the tax plan.
And I didn't really understand it all until now.
But I always knew that we were having a problem with getting the...
Hold on one second.
We have a problem with taxing the rich and not.
Not taxing.
Off the bat to the poor.
Right.
Sorry, it was going out right.
So I was able to go there and learn about the tax plan and then meet with my representative about how to, how to, what we can do about this because it's the biggest dichotomy was the fact that here we are.
I'm in their offices.
We are talking about, we're talking about these programs and we're here to complain about the tax plan, how it affects the poor and how they're going to have to find all this money because they are lowering the tax rate for the highest income people.
And then at the same time, they're cutting dosing.
I even got representative styles office aid to say, yeah, that what the president is doing is really illegal.
there's like they're going about it as business as usual and it's not you know I think that was the most baffling thing for me business as usual and it's not right so the experience of going there and then you know we got to meet with the representative and then I went back and in the hallway and then into Brian's style you know all he did was you know the tracking points
But he's angry, I could spend a great half an hour with him.
So that was good.
And I think, you know, looking back, it's helpful.
I don't get the sense that being there influenced them at all.
But I think it's helpful to come back here now and tell them what we're seeing and what they said and what we learned.
So it was a great experience.
I'm telling you, there were people there.
Medicaid is probably one of the biggest fears.
Medical research, there were doctors that showed up talking about how all of these, all of the findings around healthcare, around Alzheimer's research and brain damage, you know, when you have a brain injury, they are making all these strides and all that research is coming to an end.
So it's very serious what's going on.
And I am so glad that I could take my fight to DC.
And now I feel like I'm armed and ready to bring it back here and make sure that constituents in our district know what's going on, particularly by the next election.
But really, we've got to work hard before that.
We've got to make sure that Brian Stile knows what's going on.
And the damage they're doing.
You know, I said to him, you know, I'm here I told him about my husband and he oh, this is good for your listening He assured me and so does his office that if these those cuts are affecting us that We can contact his office.
He will open the case and he will check on that So there's a real sort of disconnect here between what?
the president is doing in what our legislators are telling us.
But what you can do, you've got to go online or you've got to call his office and ask them to open a case.
That's how it works.
So what they're saying is they will protect.
My question was always, how come our Congress people are standing up for the programs they've already approved?
And it's just, does it make sense to me?
They're not.
So what they're going to do though, they're allowing this does happen, all of these government efficiency cuts to happen, but then they're going to come back up and try to help those of us that are.
bold enough, brave enough to contact his office and demand our service back.
So we got to be really bold and really brave right now.
I bet it was a really interesting, interesting experience.
I would love the opportunity to go along with some, just to get into Congress and kind of get a feel of how things work.
Dr. Kristen Lyrely was out there not too long ago, also with a lobbying group.
And in her experience, at least, there was a lot of running away involved.
Sounded like to me.
Leland.
Thank you so very much.
And again, I would love the opportunity to go along.
It's pretty cool there.
I bet it is.
It's very interesting.
It's just to get into the halls.
There's a, there's an underground train.
I under, I've heard that.
Yeah.
All right.
Um,
Going back to young lazy men on couches.
speaking speaker of the house Mike Johnson is now blaming young men playing video games instead of working as he defends the GOP plan to gut Medicaid Slashing what Democrats say is 880 billion dollars
from this health program.
Medicaid provides medical care to one in five Americans.
And now they're all saying, because they passed this budget yesterday, they passed it last night.
And they're all saying, no, no, no, we're not going to cut Medicaid.
They're not going to touch it.
We're never going to touch it.
But mathematically, from what I have read, in order to achieve these huge
reductions in federal spending, they're going to have to touch some of these programs.
That simply is the reality of math,
It's going to be their thin defense.
And I mentioned it earlier, we'll talk about more in the coming weeks.
But Derek Van Orden, Congressman of the Third District said, Medicaid won't go down a nickel.
And that Democrats were
lying about it.
He was pretty loud about that.
But he voted for a budget that may have not stated it outright, but will eventually seek to defund or lessen the funding of Medicaid.
And that's the word of the congressman right there.
Speaker Mike Johnson says no one has talked about cutting one benefit in Medicaid to anyone who's duly owed.
What is that?
What we're talking about is returning work requirements.
So you don't have able-bodied young men on a program designed for single mothers and the elderly and disabled.
Johnson blames what he suggests is a large number of male gamers on Medicaid who are draining resources.
But here's another quote that just makes me go, hmm, we have a lot of fraud, waste and abuse and Medicaid.
Just one tiny example, the estimate is $51 billion a year in Medicaid is lost to fraud.
That's unconscionable.
That is horrific.
Where is it?
Where is the fraud?
Where is the abuse?
Show me the people who are doing this.
They've said the same thing.
about so many things.
The whole doge thing is we found all these savings.
We found all this fraud.
And because we found all this fraud, we saved all this money.
Fraud is a criminal act.
So if they are finding all of this fraud, then where is the legal part of it?
Well, the other question I'd say is he said 58,
Yeah, it really does.
Yeah.
But again,
I'm all about finding fraud.
I'm all about identifying abuse.
But don't just come out and say, I know instinctively that fraud is happening, that $51 billion worth of fraud is happening.
Just like I know in my heart, Greg, that millions and millions of illegals are voting.
And as you just mentioned too, there's going to come a time where someone on their side is going to say, all right, who's getting prosecuted?
Exactly.
Who's at least, at the very least, is going to sit in front of a Senate subcommittee on finance and say, to say, hey, we've got this information, this evidence, I'm sorry, evidence, the air quotes are doing heavy lifting here.
Answer for your crimes.
But no, it's just because you can easily just say,
numbers and walk away and no one says, well, where did you get that from?
His heart is an economist.
He just exactly is an economic heart.
Gene, I see you on the line.
We're coming up against the break.
We will take you when we get back and we're going to talk about Wisconsin's Republican delegations.
How do they feel about all this tariff stuff going on?
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Right before we went to break, we were talking about a speaker of the house, Mike Johnson, essentially blaming 51 billion dollars worth of Medicaid fraud on lazy young men playing video games on couches.
Gene from Eau Claire has been waiting.
Thank you for your patience, Gene.
What do you want to say about this?
Great show as always.
The biggest fraudsters, wasters, and accusers of taxpayer dollars and time are those sitting in those Republican seats in our Congress and our Senate and in our state.
These people shall blame
on everybody but themselves.
They never do any work and this is my personal opinion based on watching these gay hoos run our country.
So people watch live contact your representatives and the kids that work in the office are really nice.
So they do a good job and it's not their fault.
It's preface what I'm going to say before I say it that this doesn't include you.
I'll tell you, this is so sick.
Those people, we need to get them out.
We gotta vote them out.
But anyway, you guys have a great weekend and thank you so much for all you do.
Bye.
That actually doesn't count.
I would like to know what one thing Ron Johnson has accomplished on behalf of his constituents.
He did have one good program from a couple of years ago that I believe started under COVID.
That's the only thing I can think of that he's ever done for his constituents here.
I mean, most of them, that's, we saw that a lot with the, when the gerrymandered maps were still in a, in fact, we saw a lot of politicians who didn't need to work, didn't really need to put in the effort because their seats were safe.
And Ron Johnson, I mean, he's won three times now.
And where's Tony weed?
Where, besides yelling at people, where's Derek Van Orton?
No farm, but like these guys just are not responsible for any actions and are in action really when it comes down to it.
I also looked it up and I got a very concerned figure that said $880 billion is spent in Medicaid.
So Mike Johnson's claim that roughly like 7% of it is
Fraud?
Fine.
Okay, cool.
Where is it?
Then find it and prosecute it.
And at that level, as you mentioned to Jane before, is like, that's not lazy young men playing video games.
Those are highly organized schemes to try to scam Medicaid.
And he had a scheme working with rehab places and urine tests.
And they, they were scamming the government.
So.
If you're going to track down people like that and hold them accountable, I think that's great.
If there are $51 billion worth of young video playing men sitting on couches who are defrauding Medicaid, go get them.
That's great.
I just would like to see the process play out instead of just, as you said, coming out in front of a microphone and dropping this number and then walking away.
I just heard you guys mentioned Tony Weed's name and just wanted to remind people that we're having that nice little town hall that he's invited to.
That's
That's the Depeer Community Center.
It's at 6.
Dr. Lyrely is going to be there.
Yep, it's tonight.
It's at the Depeer Community Center.
It's at 6 p.m.
We invited him.
and not really hopeful that he'll show up
we're going to be there.
I also wanted to share some really like awesome news too.
We had a nice gathering of people here in New London to support a lot of the Haitian immigrants that were under threat of being deported in a couple weeks and the court's decision just came down
that they are putting a halt to the termination of those visas.
great.
They are safe, but again, you know, the appeals process
everything
We're really excited.
And Emily Zephos is going to be joining us on Monday to talk about that specifically.
But that's good news.
But as you said, we'll have to wait and see now what happens with appeals and the whole court process.
Thank you so much, Cassandra.
Really appreciate that update.
If you're in the new London area,
take a flat Tony and go to the and go to the town hall