Manly Men And Finger Pointing (Hour 1)

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Manly Men And Finger Pointing (Hour 1)

Matenaer on Air · Mon Apr 7, 2025

Jane Matenaer

Good morning and welcome.

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Busy busy show coming up for you today after the 1030 news.

More rules for men.

I'm sorry, you guys, they're not coming from me.

Do

Greg Bach

I get

Jane Matenaer

to cry in public yet?

That you're going to have to wait.

There are more rules that manly men need to follow and jobs for manly men.

Again, this isn't coming from me.

This is coming from all the people.

on Fox.

Okay.

So stick around for that.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

I'm sorry.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

And I just I don't make these rules.

I just I just say them out loud.

Greg Bach

That's true.

That's true.

I don't I don't put the blame on you.

Jane Matenaer

All right.

Also, in the next half hour, a senator who actually does things for constituents, I know it's shocking.

Yeah.

But Wisconsin has won.

Who actually does things on behalf of the people who voted for her we will talk a little bit about that at 1050 next hour very excited beyond the cheese's back This is where we take time to highlight a business in Wisconsin that is be not in the dairy industry Yeah, so we're gonna talk to Jeff Burns.

He is the president of the wine brander shoe company

been around in Wisconsin for a long, long time.

They make very sturdy work boots called Thoroughgood.

I gotta

Greg Bach

look these

Jane Matenaer

up.

You should.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

So Jeff Burns will be here after the 11 o'clock news to go beyond the cheese with the Wine Burner Shoe Company.

Of course, next hour at 11.30, our audio sorbet segment.

I'm not saving it anymore.

I love it.

I am not saving it anymore.

Yes.

What thing have you decided to use?

You're not going to keep it for just special occasions anymore.

I am not saving it anymore.

Start thinking about that now.

Yeah.

We'll kick that around after the 1130 news and then we will wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it is the birds of prey edition.

Watch out.

There's a video element as well.

You're going to want to stick around for that.

To start off, though, just very briefly, the markets are still crashing.

But don't worry.

Trump's agriculture secretary was over.

She was on TV over the weekend.

And she has this to say about the tariff announcement.

Calvin, play that clip, please.

President Trump.

laid out with a giant graphic of all the countries where tariffs were going to be what are you called reciprocal tariffs were going to be imposed and you're imposing a 10 percent tariff on the herd in mcdonald islands the herd in mcdonald islands have zero human inhabitants they have zero exports they have zero imports they do have a lot of penguins why are you putting import tariffs

on islands that are entirely populated by penguins.

Well, I mean, that, come on, Jake.

Obviously, here's the bottom line.

We live under a tariff regime from other countries.

We have not too long.

The McDonald Islands is not imposing.

The idea that America goes first.

I mean, come on.

Whatever.

Jane Matenaer

There you go.

Whatever.

Don't worry about it.

Whatever.

It's fine.

Dow Jones is at 37,850, sorry, 47,844, 831.

Okay, yeah, the doubt continues to fall, but whatever, it's

Greg Bach

fine.

Nothing makes me take an adult person more seriously than saying whatever

Jane Matenaer

to

Greg Bach

a question that while wrapped with a firm tongue in the cheek from Mr. Jake Tapper, who by the way, I was mad at you, you're back.

Is important like like like like they said like this was built off like an AI generated type of thing for all the places they wanted to tariff and and Yeah, okay fine now answer for them.

Don't act like he is so in don't be so indignant that he dares ask about your plan

Jane Matenaer

Whatever

Greg, whatever.

And by the way, you guys don't worry, the president has his pulse firm, his fingers firmly on the pulse of the economy.

He posted on Twitter this morning.

He's going to a baseball game today.

Greg Bach

Well, who doesn't want to kick back with America's pastime?

Jane Matenaer

And most importantly, over the weekend, he won his golf tournament.

Greg Bach

Yeah, I want to take like a few seconds to talk about that really quick because we briefly mentioned it last week.

three soldiers were killed in a training exercise and four, I'm sorry, you're right, four in Lithuania.

Lithuania is a deep ally for this country.

They did a ceremony with the president, the defense minister and the head religious cleric of that town.

The president wasn't there.

He didn't send Pete Hegseth there.

He went to the dignified at Dover, but the president wasn't even there.

No, he had his golf

tournament.

He had a golf

Greg Bach

tournament.

So once again, tell me how this administration loves vets.

And I really, really gets, but, but hey, man, enjoy the baseball game.

It's, I'm sure it's a nationals game.

Jane Matenaer

Well, yeah.

So he'll be have fun today.

That's nice.

Uh, yes.

Uh, again, we're not going to be labor the, uh, the stock market.

We'll move on.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

You can see it on your television.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah.

Just, uh, turn on.

any of the cable channels.

Greg Bach

Except Fox News.

Jane Matenaer

Well, actually, Maria Bartiromo this morning said, oh dear, we could be headed for a recession.

That's a pretty big acknowledgement from Fox.

How could anyone know that when they took their stock ticker off the... I think they actually had it on this morning.

Last week, in case you missed it, Fox removed the stock ticker when things were crashing.

That's one way to...

I don't know, just pretend that everything is fine.

It's all good.

It's all good.

Anyway, speaking of things not being fine, we're going to back up a little bit.

And it was only last Tuesday that we went to the polls.

Are you serious?

Tomorrow is only a week.

Greg Bach

It feels like a month

Jane Matenaer

ago.

Doesn't it?

It feels like ages ago.

But yes, it was one week tomorrow that Susan Crawford was elected to the Wisconsin Supreme Court, crushing Brad Shimmel.

by 10 points in Wisconsin.

That's huge.

And so there's a lot of postmortem now

going

Jane Matenaer

on on why how did this happen?

Why did this happen?

Wisconsin Public Radio Rich Creamer with the byline conservatives look for answers point blame.

Following spring election losses, social media post call for Wisconsin Republican Party Chair Brian Scheming's resignation.

Now.

In case you have forgotten, when Brian Shimming took over in Wisconsin as the head of the Wisconsin Republican Party, he said, we have to embrace early voting.

Greg Bach

He said that as well as we have to get rid of some of these long held beliefs of the Republican Party.

Right.

He did an interview with JS online in December of 2023, but specifically speaking about early voting, they have to embrace it.

And that they did.

Jane Matenaer

And they did.

Very much so exactly and I mean the turnout the the results could have been even worse Yes, if they had not convinced at least some of their Voters to vote early.

Yeah, so Brian shimming was the one who was essentially like, okay I know we've been saying that it's all Voting early is voter fraud and there's cheating and it's rife with you know cheats and all that stuff Yeah, that's not true.

And so they embrace embraced they called it bank bank your vote.

Yep

Jane Matenaer

Now they're gonna come after Brian shimming because they want someone to blame I

Greg Bach

mean What is Brian shimmings, okay, here is a here is a moment where I'm going to defend Brian shimming I Really was excited to see what he was gonna do with the Republican Party in Wisconsin.

I was disappointed to see that he Basically went for the same tropes in his tweeting.

They did as you said

They did embrace early voting.

I think that was a big deal for the Republican party here in Wisconsin.

It was.

And across the country.

But he, what is he to do when the world's richest man comes in and says, I want to control this election?

I'm going to basically finance most of it.

I'm going to be the guy who has the purse strings.

Is Brian Shimmins supposed to step forward and say, no Elon Musk?

This isn't, this isn't a good plan.

be a little more stealth, be a little more like, you know, try some other methods of putting money in, but yeah, we'll take your money.

But don't show up to Green Bay in a cheese hat, which backfired for him.

It got him a lot of bad press.

Or is Brian Jimmy supposed to stand back and say, it's the world's richest man standing next to the president of the United States.

What am I going to do?

I mean, really, I mean, I really feel bad for Brian Jimmy.

I'm sure I have a feeling in his head.

He has a lot of ideas for the GOP in the state that will never come to light because he won't be allowed to because of Robin Voss, Reince Priebus, the national committee and just the Trump administration and on the whole.

So of course he's the easy target.

He's the guy who want to

Jane Matenaer

change.

Yeah.

Well, and again, they need to have something.

They need to hang this on something or someone.

Our senior Senator Ron Johnson, who I saw over the weekend, he was all over television.

He's really good at that.

Janice, he's got concerns.

Let's play that clip from Wisconsin senior Senator Ron Johnson.

Calvin, please.

I can't explain that.

I mean, give the Democrats the credit.

They were energized.

They're all.

angry about the fact that President Trump won in November and I guess that has fired them up and then they, you know, have renewed anger over Elon Musk as well.

Although I think Elon's efforts were very welcome.

I think in general they were a net positive.

But again, when you can't, when you don't turn people out and people don't, you can lead a horse to water, you can't make him drink.

So again, disappointing result.

Greg Bach

Did Elon really make it in that positive?

No, they lost.

That's, I would say, a net negative.

Well, sorry, Jane.

I'm sorry.

After they lost, the voter ID thing went through, and that's all they cared about.

So that's... Right, right, right.

But look at the numbers, Mr. Johnson, Senator Johnson.

Half, half of the registered voters in Wisconsin turned out.

1.3 million people voted in...

Jane Matenaer

Oh, sorry.

Greg Bach

2.3 voted.

and a million voted for, a million point three voted for Susan Crawford.

Okay.

She won, but stop putting that towards anger or resentment.

And also Republicans voted for her too.

You cannot convince me otherwise.

You cannot convince me that some Trump voters voted for Susan Crawford for whatever their reasons are.

But this notion of like, well, chalk it up to.

They're just all man, resentful, angry, liberal, liberals.

It's the worst narrative.

Jane Matenaer

And I don't as you said, I don't think that's completely accurate.

No, I don't I really don't all right We're coming up to the break when we return Some people turned out over the weekend.

I heard there was some stuff happening.

I heard there were some things some Yeah, we'll talk about that if you were there, please Please if you went to the one of the protests the hands-off protests over the weekend Show us your checks tub from George Soros

That'd be great.

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around.

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And by the way, thank you so much.

to everyone who

Greg Bach

entered

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during our show.

They posted the results over the weekend.

Yeah.

We beat Todd Alba.

We won.

Thank you, Janie X. When it got posted on Saturday, I was like...

Are we sure this is accurate?

We should probably do a recount.

Yeah, definitely.

What is Michael Gabelman up to now?

I'm sure we could hire him to look into this.

Greg Bach

But no, as Todd said, he called you and conceded.

He said, for the good of America, we need to move forward and accept the number.

Jane Matenaer

It was great.

And we are still waiting to contact the grand prize winners.

Greg Bach

So once

Jane Matenaer

we contact them,

We will tell you the name, but congratulations to everybody who called in and won one of the three prizes, the Brewer's Tickets, the Chula Vista Overnight, the $100.

Thank you so very, very much for listening and for entering.

It was a lot of fun.

Greg Bach

Yeah, we had a really, really good time.

We

Jane Matenaer

did.

There were some activity over the weekend.

I heard.

Big protests.

This from the Wisconsin Examiner.

Big protests in cities throughout Wisconsin on April 5th.

Target Trump, Musk, and cuts to service.

This was all over the country.

And if

Jane Matenaer

you were at one of these protests on Saturday called Hands Off, let us know what it was like.

Check in with us at 855-752-4842.

Steve from Hayward texting in.

What a day on Saturday.

He's sharing a whole bunch of pictures.

This is Deep Red Spooner.

Props to Civic Media.

Keep up the great work.

Thank you, Steve.

And thank you to everyone in Spooner.

Steve also says he's still waiting on his check.

Greg Bach

Me too.

I've been to some protests and I never gonna check.

Jane Matenaer

Well, I heard that this morning when I was driving in, listening to Pat Krightlow on Up North News Radio and someone on the text line, of course.

What did he say?

Normal people don't protest on Saturdays.

Greg Bach

I don't even know what that means.

Okay.

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

So all I immediately thought of was, oh, okay.

So normal people only protest on Tuesdays in early January.

Cause that was all normal folks.

Greg Bach

I mean, I guess,

Jane Matenaer

but, but the Saturday people, I guess you were all paid.

So we would love to see the pay stub from George Soros, who's the boogeyman for everything.

I know he's, please send us your pay stub for the, I don't know how much, how much does a regular protester get paid per hour?

Is it 25?

Well, in

Greg Bach

these, in this economy, I'd say

Jane Matenaer

25,

Greg Bach

30.

Jane Matenaer

You think?

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

855-752.

or 842.

Cassandra is on the line from New London.

Good morning, Cassandra.

Thanks for joining us.

Good morning.

Yeah, I was in the Appleton rally on Saturday.

And you know what?

They keep talking about all these checks that everybody's getting, like for these different rallies and things.

I still haven't seen any money.

I've been to a couple things now, and I'm patiently awaiting my back.

But I haven't seen anything yet.

Um, unfortunately, um, no, it was great.

The energy was awesome.

Like it was, it was so cool to see.

I mean, it's spread out in Appleton.

They think that we have like somewhere around 2000 to 2500 people.

We're spread down like three blocks.

It was awesome.

Jane Matenaer

That's great.

That's great.

Cassandra, thank you.

Really appreciate you checking in.

Christine from Slinger listening on W. A. U. K. I. Living Washington County.

West Bend had a great showing at their protest.

I was there.

I was impressed with the numbers of people and the car horns honking in support.

I recently joined the Democratic Party of Washington County, surprised to learn how many live here.

I thought I was alone.

That's something that's

Greg Bach

really important.

You're not alone.

Dan Schaefer has spoken about that a lot.

The beginning of the purple wave in those counties.

has been for a few years now.

So yeah, go out and meet people.

There are more people thinking like you than you know.

Jane Matenaer

Absolutely.

Again, if you'd like to share your experience on Saturday, if you were part of these protests, 855-752-4842, let us know what it was like.

And there is another one coming.

This will be on April 19th.

This from Newsweek says nationwide anti-Trump protest planned for April 19th.

what to know.

And I will say this in the remaining time that we have, except for one incident that I saw in Indiana where there was an altercation between anti-Trump and pro-Trump people for the most part.

This was very peaceful.

Greg Bach

It was it was peaceful and no one really I mean that that incident in Indiana was a man who was trying to intimidate people who was waving a gun at people and Was arrested and then eventually let go they felt like he was just you know exercising his first amendment rights

Jane Matenaer

Fair enough,

Greg Bach

but

Jane Matenaer

I again for the vast majority Millions of people took the streets.

There was no destruction.

There was no violence.

This leads me to good

Yeah.

Let's continue this.

Stop attacking Teslas, my friends.

Yeah.

This is where I'm gonna get harsh.

We're gonna call this harsh corner.

Okay.

This does nothing good.

Okay.

By attacking Tesla dealerships.

This is vandalism.

This is a crime.

I don't care what your motivation for doing this is.

It's wrong.

It's a crime.

Knock it off.

Stop saying horrible things to Tesla drivers.

We don't know who these people are.

We don't know what their politics are.

You we shouldn't be.

It's wrong.

It's just wrong.

All

Jane Matenaer

right.

So knock it off.

All right.

We've left harsh corners.

We've left harsh corner.

Thank you very much.

When we return from the news, manly men rules for manly men.

I don't make the rules.

I just passed them along.

Stay close.

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This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Welcome.

Welcome to Matt Nair on air.

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It's a segment we'd like to call Audio Sorbet.

Oh, I like that mix.

I love that mix.

It was an interesting mashup there where we do a little, a little pallet cleanser and get away from all of the news, all of the politics, all of that stuff, lighten things up a little bit.

So next hour at this time, we're going to talk about I'm not saving it anymore.

I

Jane Matenaer

am sick of having my best dishes used once a year.

If that I'm sick of saving my favorite shirt or

Shoes or whatever.

Yeah, I'm not saving it anymore What is your thing?

Love

Greg Bach

this.

Jane Matenaer

What is your thing?

You are not gonna save anymore You're just gonna use it or wear it or do it.

Yeah, I'm not saving it anymore coming up after the 1130 news Did we want to do a quick clarification?

Yeah,

Greg Bach

we'd like to do a quick clarification on the text line We were informed that the soldiers who died

and Lithuania were currently at Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany.

That is incorrect.

As reported by the Independent this past Saturday, those soldiers were returned to the United States at Dover on this past Friday, met by the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, including some other Congress people, not the president.

He was golfing.

Nor the vice president.

And this is not the first dignified transfer, as it's called, that he has skipped.

But that is just to be clear.

They arrived last Friday back in America.

Jane Matenaer

Hexeth was there.

Hexeth was there.

President Trump was not here.

He was golfing, which he won by the way.

So that was the great news.

Oh, I'm sure he won by a lot.

He won his golf tournament.

We're going to get to rules for manly men from Fox.

Again, I don't make these rules.

I just report them.

But we did have a couple of texts I wanted to get to.

Brian from Marinette.

listening on WGBW in Green Bay.

There's going to be an empty chair town hall for where's Tony Weed in Depeer on Friday night.

Brian, this is your chance to make Flat Tony a thing.

Yep.

In Alabama, they are taking cardboard cutouts of their representatives who won't show up at town halls and taking the cardboard cutout instead.

So maybe, you know, to make it even more exciting, the empty chair event, bring a Flat Tony.

Bring a Flat Tony.

Bring a Flat Tony.

And Joe from Waukesha texting in, listening on WAUK, my wife, daughter, and I attended the hands-off protest in Milwaukee Saturday.

It felt great to stand with so many others.

The protest sign game was strong.

Also, if I ever get one of those Soros checks, I will make a sign thanking him.

It's all Soros money.

It's everybody was paid, you guys, everybody got paid.

Okay, here we go.

And again, I...

I don't make the rules, you guys.

Calvin,

Greg Bach

are you ready?

We're gonna get

Jane Matenaer

some advice.

This is the headline, Crisis in Masculinity.

Fox News pundit claims Trump's tariffs will make men more manly.

Okay, are good.

Batya Angar Sargan, a journalist, says that President Trump's tariffs will help bring manly men jobs back to America's working class.

which is facing a crisis in masculinity, quote, it's not just the destruction of the economic fatality of the working class, but there's been a spiritual decimation that has come along that a crisis in masculinity, because we ship jobs that gave men who work with their hands for a living and relying on brawn and physicality off to other countries.

And then we imported millions and millions of illegals to work in construction,

and manufacturing, landscaping, janitorial services to work in jobs that used to give American men access to the American dream.

So President Trump is saying no more to this and to the crisis in masculinity, which of course is why young men feel so attracted to what he's offering, unquote.

If you've been waiting for that landscaping job and you haven't found an opportunity for you.

We'd love to hear from you at 855-752-4842-855-75CIVIC about 15 years ago.

A man that I was working with decided to get out of radio.

And he and a friend of his started a home irrigation company.

Greg Bach

Oh, wow.

Jane Matenaer

I know.

So they come to your house.

And they put in, you know, your own irrigation so you can keep your flower beds watered and all that stuff.

This is 15 years ago.

Yeah.

And he told me we cannot get white men to work for us.

Really?

They don't show up.

They're not reliable or they just don't apply.

Yeah.

Because they don't want to do those jobs.

Greg Bach

Well, as I'm not going to speak on behalf of all of them, but I am a white male.

You are.

You're welcome, America.

And.

One of the things that we as white males and and as Americans, but you can break it down start with me We've been told is that those jobs are fine for college are fine for high school are fine for there for part-time time here and there But that's not it that you gotta get a real you gotta go to a four-year college Get a real job so you can get a house a wife children and a landscaping job.

Just that's just not that's or

If someone would have said, hey, do you want to do landscaping in high school?

I'm like, that's too hard.

It's hard work.

It's hard on your body.

I couldn't imagine doing it now.

Jane Matenaer

Roofing is hard work.

Paving is hard work.

Road work is hard.

Greg Bach

But that's the thing is you're talking about roofing, paving, roads, things like that.

And then let's also talk about

those manufacturing jobs that were shipped overseas.

Those jobs used to be good paying maybe union jobs,

Jane Matenaer

family sustaining jobs with a

Greg Bach

pension.

Yep.

But yet you're saying like, oh, um, work, work, one of these landscapes, a landscaping job can pay you, but it might not sustain a family either.

When we're talking about good middle class jobs, we're talking about jobs where you might be able to have a one.

Income home because it's it's so good, but that's just not the case and let's not forget who allowed the manufacturing jobs to leave this country our politicians So don't act like

It's a problem with men.

Men

Jane Matenaer

just... Well, they don't have the opportunities to do manly men jobs anymore.

Yeah, because they ruined it for us.

Well, and they don't want those jobs.

If you own a construction company, I would love to hear from you.

If you are a landscaper, I would love to hear from you about how easy it is because supposedly there's millions of people sitting on their butts on their couches playing video games.

Collecting welfare checks.

Collecting welfare checks.

Please tell me the endless list of applicants you're getting from young white men to work in landscaping companies and roofing companies.

Yeah.

855-752-4842.

Jean from Eau Claire is on the line.

Good morning, Jean.

Thanks for joining us.

Hi.

I just can't believe this.

I think the world's gone nuts.

You know, how can those most

unmanly men from Fox to find what a manly job is.

I mean, you know, I think that, you know, they need to get a little bit of experience in different areas before they make these called darn comments.

My dad, he worked in a factory.

All my uncles and relatives, they all worked in a factory.

And, you know, the conditions were horrible.

Yeah, they got insurance.

They got insurance.

They got

So vacation unless they were on strike because they'd usually end up going on strike both time vacation come and then they wouldn't get any pay I mean did these people worked without hearing protections?

A lot of them lost their hearing a lot of them were had asbestos poisoning I mean there's so many things you know these guys that think this manly men job thing is like oh the greatest thing in the world I mean come on and and you know they don't even use their brain I love the young people that are really intelligent

know that use their minds to create new things and I mean in playing videos and living down their parents' basement and I don't have kids but I'll tell you one thing I get really ticked off when they run down kids that live at home because they can't afford to buy a house and things that they've done in our country that hurt these young people they can you know what my

Jane Matenaer

Jeans on fire.

Jeans on the FCC edge there.

She's just about to fall off the FCC cliff.

Thank you so much, Jeannie.

Really appreciate you checking in as always.

855-752-4842 talking about rules for manly men from Fox and how getting rid of illegal immigrants and immigrants in this country is going to open up all kinds of jobs.

Manly jobs for Manly Men.

Because

Greg Bach

we can't forget that Fox is the arbiter of what is Manly.

Jane Matenaer

They are.

Greg Bach

Especially, I mean, like you talk about something like Jesse Waters.

Oh my goodness, he's got so many.

Jane Matenaer

We have several clips from Mr. Waters.

Did I set that up?

From Fox News.

Calvin, let's play this first clip from Jesse Waters on being a Manly Man.

Joe Biden used a straw.

Jane Matenaer

He did a whole segment.

about President Biden using a straw once.

Yeah.

There are, Jesse, I hate to break it to you.

There are photos of our current president drinking from a container that has a straw.

Greg Bach

I wanted to play the entire clip, but I'm not going to lie.

It gets real creepy at one point when

Jane Matenaer

he's

Greg Bach

talking about it too.

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah.

Jesse also has another rule.

And again, I'm not making the manly men rules.

I'm just repeating them.

Oh, Kevin, let's play that other that second clip, please, from Jesse Waters.

Let's talk ice cream.

Yeah,

Jane Matenaer

the

symbolism

of

a grown man holding an ice cream cone

is

awful.

Men should only lick ice cream cones on vacation.

What is going on?

Licking an ice cream cone as a man is a very personal thing.

It should not be done in public.

Jane Matenaer

What are you doing with this ice cream cone, dude?

Jesse

Greg Bach

Waters, I just want to tell you something, your coworkers are not laughing with you.

They're laughing at you.

Cause this is, it is, once again, it is another like two minutes after he's still talking about

Jane Matenaer

ice cream.

And licking and the whole, it's just, oh, Jesse.

It's

Greg Bach

very personal.

Jane Matenaer

855-752-4842.

Cindy from Appleton is joining us.

Good morning, Cindy.

What'd you want to say about this?

Well a couple things first of all I'm hoping to find out when one term Tony's No Tony's town hall is going to be what time anyway and where

And then as far as the manly stuff, come on, look at the agricultural field.

They can't get white men to work that anymore.

That used to be a real manly man's job and the construction trades, they can't find people either.

I mean, give me a break.

These people are just nonsensical.

Jane Matenaer

Appreciate it, Cindy.

Yeah, I don't disagree with you.

Greg Bach

Eric Vintosa, he texted us saying, good morning, Jane and Greg.

I ran retail shops for 15 years and my fellow white dudes typically made the worst employees of all in my opinion.

it's not hard work, it's work period.

He also says Indivisible Toso will be hosting an empty chair town hall for Ron Johnson on Wednesday, April 23rd at Denison in Milwaukee.

Said bring your energy, bring your questions, complaints, but leave your pitchforks at home.

But

Jane Matenaer

bring a flat Ron.

Bring a flat Ron.

We need our flat reps.

I just think this.

It could be fun.

I feel like we started business.

I think we could.

Hi, this is Jim from Manitowoc, listening in Green Bay on WGB.

W went to our hands-off rally, which was a success.

The problem is neither of our local papers have reported on it.

That's interesting.

Greg Bach

I mean, it's that I'm not totally surprised.

Jane Matenaer

And Liz from Sockville.

Landscaping is hard.

Yes, it is.

Landscaping is hard work.

So is roofing.

So is working on a construction site.

So is working on a road crew.

So is

plumbing.

So as electors or electricians in each bag, guys, that's all hard work.

Greg Bach

Those are all and those are all great jobs.

See, those are jobs that kids should be looking at school for training because those are the jobs that never go away.

They're recessing proof and they actually can provide

Jane Matenaer

a decent living.

Yep.

Calvin, right before we go to break, if we can play that on straws once more time, I just think it's important to it's a rule, guys.

I don't make them.

Joe Biden uses straw.

Jane Matenaer

No straws.

No straws, guys.

No straws.

Maintain that masculinity.

And only ice cream from dishes.

When I drink my Starbucks, I get the non-straw cup.

There you go.

See, because you're a manly man.

We have a break coming up when we return a senator who actually does something for constituents.

What?

It's such a rarity.

We have to call it out.

Stay close.

You were listening to Matt Nair on air.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

We'll be right back.

Good

Jane Matenaer

morning and welcome back to Matt Nair on air.

Jane Matt Nair, Greg Bach.

Dr. Slide on the board coming to you from our studio at Radio Park in Racine.

You can always join us, call her text.

The number is the same 855-752-4842.

Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter.

Just one quick thing.

You know, a lot of broadcast companies in Wisconsin and around the country are firing staff.

Yes.

Stripping away services.

like weather reports and news and sports.

Yep.

We here at Civic Media are doing the opposite.

Greg Bach

Yes, we

Jane Matenaer

are.

Our team at Civic Media is growing.

We are hiring right now qualified candidates to join our radio network.

You can take a look at all the open positions.

Go to civicmedia.us slash careers and check it out.

Take a look.

Maybe you're one of the folks who was recently let go.

There was one big company that just got rid of a whole bunch of people.

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So if you're on the beach, you can change a couple of levers.

Maybe you can become our co-worker.

That would be great.

Who knows?

Check it out, civicmedia.us slash careers.

Before we went to the break, we were talking about Fox, the arbiter of all things manly men.

And they're very excited because

The tariffs mean that manly men, jobs are going to be coming back to America.

OK.

Chuck from East Troy has thoughts on manly men.

Good morning, Chuck.

Thanks for joining us.

What do you want to say about them?

Yeah, I just want to say that our, as Earl England would say, our only child who is a Rocky War veteran and an iron worker, she's working on a.

building in Milwaukee right now there.

Anyway, a lot of Trump tards as she calls them that she works with.

There's a lot of people out there that they wouldn't do what she's doing.

They're scared to do what she's doing.

Anyway, that's all I have to say about manly men.

Jane Matenaer

Appreciate it, Chuck.

And more props to your daughter, man, for being an iron worker.

I had the opportunity to interview a number of women who were working on the FISERV when that was going up.

And it's a great job.

It's a lot of hard work.

I mean, all of the trades are, it's very hard work, but.

I like to think about what it would feel like to watch that building going up and knowing that you, you, you were a part of that.

Greg Bach

Exactly.

Just that idea of looking like saying to your kid, your grandkid, I helped build

Jane Matenaer

that.

I helped build that.

Exactly.

All right.

We're going to move on quickly because I do think she needs some props on this from the Wisconsin examiner Eric Gunn with the byline.

Baldwin joins legislation demanding frozen grants for farmers resume.

Yes, Senator Tammy Baldwin, who actually seems to do things on behalf of Wisconsinites, I know it's crazy.

All Wisconsinites.

All Wisconsinites, exactly.

She has introduced legislation that will order the ag departments to resume paying farmers on contracts they already signed.

That money is still languishing, that money was approved, and it still has not been released.

We've talked to Darren Von Ruden about this, who is the president of the Wisconsin Farmers Union.

And a lot of these farmers have already invested this money into new systems, or maybe a new equipment, or whatever.

They're waiting for this cash.

I haven't seen Ron Johnson anywhere talking about anything like this, or Derek Van Order.

Greg Bach

I was just about to say, you know, I know it's senators who are pushing forth this bill, but where?

Derek Van Orden.

Where is he?

Where are you?

You are on the ag committee and you half of your ads are on farms when you're running for office.

Are you are you going to put something together in the house with anybody?

Republicans, Democrats, independents, I don't care.

Are you going to do something of the same because you say you're a champion of the farmers?

Here's your chance to actually do something.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, prove

Greg Bach

it.

Jane Matenaer

Where are these guys?

Yeah.

Has anyone

We can do a whole different, where's Waldo?

We can do, where's Derek?

Where's Tony?

Where's Rojo?

Well, we know where to find Ron Johnson.

He's always on Fox.

Greg Bach

I know where to find Glenn Rothman to, pancake

Jane Matenaer

breakfast.

He loves breakfast.

He's very good at breakfast.

Yes, but Tammy Baldwin has joined 15 Democrats and two independent senators, Bernie Sanders and Angus King of Maine to sign off on this.

quote Donald Trump and Elon Musk are stiffing our farmers and processors taking away resources these folks were guaranteed threatening small businesses ability to stay open and people's livelihoods Senator Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin one of 17 co-sponsors on this measure US Department of Ag has stopped reimbursing farmers and organizations for money they've spent

Despite contracts, they all ready signed with the agency.

Greg Bach

This just reminds me of more the same like with regard to what's happening in Madison right now with the joint finance committee.

There's money, it's been voted on, it's been promised and committed and now it's just sitting there and they want to cancel it.

I mean, and here's the question I have to ask, do farmers have an actionable response?

Can they say to the country, can they say to the ag department, you promised us, we have a contract.

We want our money or we're taking to court.

But well, is that the only enforcement?

I know I'm just saying that's But we're getting to the point now where it feels almost litigious where they have the only move they have If this doesn't go through they have to go through Crosby.

Jane Matenaer

Just cut me a check, please Oh, and by the way, we had a question about where the empty chair Tony event is going to be Yeah, this room Cassandra

Empty Chair Town Hall, April 11th, 6 p.m.

at Depeer Community Center.

That's the weed and Empty Chair Town Hall, April 11th, 6 p.m.

at the Depeer Community Center.

Think about a flat, Tony.

Just as a, you know, as an extra perk.

Extra reason to go.

I was gonna say, it's a reason to go.

It's a reason to go.

News is coming up next.

When we return, we're going beyond the cheese.

Oh, yeah.

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