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We want to do a little update quick on the four American soldiers who were tragically lost in Lithuania.
And as far as US representation, what we can say for sure is that President Trump will not be there, nor will Secretary of Defense Pete Hexeth, who will be there, will be the Lithuanian president, their defense minister, and their archbishop.
Pete Hexeth will receive the
will receive the soldiers at what's called the dignified transfer in at Dover Air Force.
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How you doing, Dan Schaefer?
I'm much more combobulated than I usually have been on a Friday as of late.
Also just want to mention one thing.
I know you have with the text to win contest.
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We want competitive Jane to win this one.
You don't want me to
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I think we were all
you know, two years ago in Janet Prada say what's won by an 11 point margin, it kind of wowed all of us.
Considering all that went into this race, all the astronomical levels of spending, the fact that Brad Schimel was running in this race for more than 16 months, the onslaught of Elon Musk money that came in the final stretch, I think this result is even more impressive than the one from two years ago.
I think Susan Crawford winning by a double digit margin
is just a tremendously impressive electoral performance here.
And, you know, I wrote this column published at the Reconbibulationary yesterday.
Gotta give some credit to the candidate herself here.
think that, you know, so much of this, we've been talking about this as, you know, the race as a referendum on Elon Musk.
you know, the changing realignment for turnout in spring election race and all these different narratives that have emerged.
I think we gotta give some credit to Susan Crawford, the candidate herself.
I mentioned in the piece that I wrote that, you know, I was at this event on March 4th in Milwaukee where she was, you know, fielding interview questions as a panel discussion for the Milwaukee Press Club and Rotary Club.
And it was at that event that it seemed like things really clicked.
for her.
And then, you know, about a week and a half later, she would clearly best Brad Schimmel in the lone debate.
in the race.
And I thought that's when she really hit her groove in the campaign.
And I was in Madison the night before the election, working on some stuff with our team here at Civic Media, was able to check in at a rally kickoff that Crawford was speaking at at the Majestic Theater in Madison.
And she was just speaking with a lot of confidence and a lot of just repeating the line that she had said many times.
You know, I never thought growing up as a little girl in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin, that'd be going up against the richest man in the world.
But here we are.
And then that line added one more to it.
But not just, but here we are.
But we won.
But we won.
And they won.
decisively
and
I quite honestly thought it was going to be a much closer race.
And I fully expected the count not to be finished until well after midnight.
And then Brad Schimel could go to the trope that now Republicans who lose
always do, which is blame Milwaukee and the late counting of the ballots and which is perfectly legal.
There's nothing hinky about that.
It's been happening for years and they the Republican control legislature could have done something about it and they chose not to so they can continue to go back to this as their excuse for losing.
Yeah, I guess we've we've just become pretty accustomed to these.
over the years.
But I guess credit to Schimel for conceding and saying that the race was over.
It's not exactly a high bar to clear, but we have had a lot of candidates in the state who have not cleared that extraordinarily low bar.
So at least there's that.
But yeah, just a really impressive win from Susan Crawford and got to give some credit to the candidate herself because she remained steady.
threw out a pretty wild campaign cycle, especially that final month.
And if you look at the, I can't remember who published the map, but everywhere in Wisconsin moves to the left on this election.
And I'm not going to be naive enough to say, well, that's it.
See you later, Donald Trump in 2020, whatever.
But as a numbers guy, Dan, who has watched these elections and crunched the numbers and looked at all the trends.
What do you think that says about Wisconsin when and Jane and I have discussed as we know with with a 10-point victory there are people who voted for Trump who voted for Crawford because there's something different about the statewide election especially the judges race that says Federal you're fine, but Elon's too much and these things are happening What does it say to you to just see Wisconsin for one night?
Just kind of move to the left a little bit on this matter
Yeah, I think there's so I think there's a couple things with it one is that you have to I think there is a real Elon backlash effect that was clearly happening in this election I think people are upset what what?
with his role in the federal government.
They are upset with Doge.
I think there is elements that this, you know, race became a referendum on Elon Musk.
And people may be not getting what they wanted out of this election result.
Another factor, I think, and this is a really important one, is just kind of the realignment that we're seeing in our politics.
And I think last year, Trump did especially well with
what those of us in the dorky political science community refer to as low propensity voters.
People who might not show up in midterm elections or vote in their local elections or school board races or whatever it might be, but people who do show up in presidential elections.
And so we had really high turnout for this spring election here.
I think it was like 2.3
million or
But it still wasn't as high as a presidential election.
And I think that is kind of what we're seeing in the realignment of our politics is like the super high turnout presidential races now benefit Republicans, especially when Donald Trump is on the ballot.
they're gonna face a real existential question about whether that coalition exists after Trump himself is no longer on the ballot.
But at the same time,
you have this dynamic where, you know, they have traded, the Republicans have traded some of those lower propensity voters that help them win presidential elections.
But the other side of the coin is that some of the more reliable every election voters are now shifting more democratic.
And so I think, you know, education has been a big, you know, a big factor in this, like the higher levels of education you have.
the more likely you are to vote in every election and now the more likely you are to vote Democratic.
So I think, you know, Democrats now have this sweet spot for turnout in some of these races in, I think, midterms and high turnout spring elections and other low turnout special elections that I think Democrats are going to have.
a built-in advantage for.
And this election had such high turnout, it was more like a midterm election.
friend Aaron Moriak, who breaks down election results, noted that Susan Crawford got more raw votes in the 2025 special election in a winning effort than Scott Walker did in 2018 in the midterms in a losing effort.
So I think that just goes to show how many people really turned out.
for this race.
It was at midterm election level turnout and I think that is kind of going to be a sweet spot for Democrats and I think it's something that we should remember.
looking ahead to the midterms in 26.
We're
And one of our listeners just suggested, let's give a little love to Jill Underly as well.
We'll do that on the other side when we come back.
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And we want to give a shout out to Steve from Hayward, who said, let's talk about Jill underlies when she deserves some recognition.
So she really was not very visible during this race.
I didn't think
So I wrote a piece about this, about the race after the primary when it was shaping up to be Jill Underlee versus Brittany Kinzer.
And I thought, you know,
Given some of the larger dynamics of this race, I thought it could be much closer than what we've seen in quite some time.
It has been since the 1990s that this race for this office was decided.
by a single digit margin.
Tony Evers regularly won by pretty wide margins when he was state superintendent.
And I think most of the kind of democratically aligned candidates have typically done better with this.
But this was a close race.
I mean, Brittany Kinzer obviously had a lot of money behind her race.
She was out campaigning everywhere.
And like you said, Underly, a quieter campaign, certainly compared to the Crawford and the Wisconsin Supreme Court race, but able to pull off the victory.
And I think some of the geography of this race was pretty interesting to me.
The geography of the results.
Underly did better than Crawford.
in a number of western Wisconsin counties, but did significantly worse in the Milwaukee metro area.
And I think, you know, you look at the wild counties, you look at Milwaukee County in particular, I think under Lee was at like 76% or something like that in Milwaukee County and under Lee was at.
So Crawford was at like 76% and Underly was at 67%.
So she ran pretty well behind Crawford in the Milwaukee metro area.
I think some of the issues that the Milwaukee schools have been having certainly plays into that.
But I think, you know, I think in a lot of rural areas in the state and Western Wisconsin, you know.
the people are pretty reliant on their public schools and want to make sure that they are electing a champion for public schools to this office.
And I think, you know, that's ultimately the decision that Wisconsin voters made.
I think people just being aware of what this would mean for them.
And we've talked a lot about how for the most part people like their own public school.
It's, you know, MPS is terrible, or that school system is terrible, but mine, I like mine.
And I think that really resonates.
And as you said, especially for rural areas who do not have a lot of educational opportunities, Brittany Kinzer, obviously being a big advocate for school choice and charter schools.
And I think the more people learned about that,
It's like, well, what's going to happen to my public school if they decide to start pushing more charters or more vouchers?
And it's like one of these polling things that if you poll, how do you feel about public schools?
People are, you know, man, whatever.
How do you feel about my public school?
Oh, well, I love it.
I love my school and my backyard.
And I think that is, you know, a really important factor for these kinds of races.
But, you know, again, it's.
This was a close race.
The fact that it was closer than the Supreme Court race, if you told me that on Monday, I would have been surprised.
I thought under Lee...
From some of the sources that I was talking to and all that thought under Lee would probably just based on incumbency based on a number of factors run a little bit ahead of Crawford The fact that she ran a few points behind Crawford I think is significant and especially like in the Milwaukee metro area and in southeastern, Wisconsin I think two of the counties you guys are there right now and racing right
that Crawford won that have been trending red in recent elections were Racine and Kenosha counties.
Those are also both counties that were won by Brittany Kinzer.
So I think there is some something going on here with southeastern Wisconsin more generally as it applies to, you know, just making decisions on education.
Really quick was did you get any insight from anybody in her campaign?
Why she kept so low on the radar?
I mean,
We talked, Brittany Kinzer, I heard her more on civic media than Jill Underly.
And it just doesn't see, as you said, it was sort of like her election to lose.
I just don't understand the strategy.
Yeah.
I mean, and I think, you know, there were stumbling blocks with Kinzer's campaign too, but the fact that she was every forum.
Event panel interview that was out there.
She seemed to be saying yes, too I think that's a better strategy to be out there and visible for people So I don't know
I think also Brittany Kinzer and I'm not saying Jill under liaison But I think Brittany Kinzer is truly passionate about education.
You could see it in her interviews.
This wasn't some like, you know Empty shirt.
She's not an Eric Havde.
Exactly.
Exactly.
She has she has a mission for education It just didn't align with a lot of people.
But yeah, Brittany Kinzer
I mean, her campaign, she got out there shook hands with everyone, talked to everyone, and I'm really surprised you'll underly won.
When we return from the news, it's a segment we call Audio Sorbet.
We're gonna lighten things up a little bit and talk about your favorite bad movie.
Your favorite bad movie, I'll give you mine just by telling you two of the characters, or the two of the actors, Charlton, Heston, and Anthony Zerbe.
Best bad movies, that's all on the way.
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We are joined every Friday at this time by Dan Schaefer from the Reconpopulation area.
Before we get to the best bad movies, Dan, I did want to give you a shout out.
I flew out of Mitchell international about a two weeks ago.
And I had a lot of time, so I was talking to the woman at the information desk, Nicola, lovely woman.
If you ever have time to kill, talk to her.
She's fantastic.
We stalked her half an hour.
But she said, people ask all the time where the recombobulation area is because they want to take a picture.
Yeah, we did.
We're very excited.
We won six Milwaukee Press Club Awards this year.
The most we've won in a year.
Very excited about, you know, a couple of the pieces that I was really proud of, particularly the feature story I wrote in the Fox Valley right before the election and another piece of breaking news about the RNC.
So I was very excited that those two got recognized in particular and also very excited for contributor Angela Lang, who was recognized, who was honored and now back to back years in the single editorial.
Category so shout out and congratulations to Angela as well.
This is not important, but it is our segment, Calvin, that we like to call Audio Sorbet.
Little cleansing for your ear away from all the politics and all the serious things, and we just like to lighten things up a little bit and take a breath.
So here is your question.
What is your favorite bad movie?
Best bad movie.
If it comes on the TV, no matter how many times you've seen it, you will sit down and watch it anyway.
What is your favorite bad movie?
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
We have a clip from one of my favorite bad movies, Calvin.
Play this clip, please, and then I'll tell you what it is.
Because the last man on earth is not
The movie is The Omega Man, with Charlton Heston and Anthony Zerbe.
And if you're my age, you know who that is.
Anthony Zerbe was a villain in first about everything he ever played.
But the movie The Omega Man is from 1971.
It's so bad.
It's so bad.
And yet you can't look away.
It's just, it's like, I have to watch this because now it makes me laugh.
And it was intended to be a warning of, you know,
Poisons in the air and there was a worldwide plague that killed just about everybody except for Charlton Heston and Anthony Zerbe's group of crazies and they have to duke it out and but Omega man Check it out.
Yeah, if nothing else just for the fashions because again it was from 1971 so the clothing the hairstyles and even the musical soundtrack from this film are it's just so
It's the epitome of the 70s.
Is
clip.
You gotta tell him, Shylan Breen is people!
We gotta stop him!
Sorry
Good morning you guys I am tied for a few but The Chinese bootleg version of Planet of the Apes that one is pretty self-explanatory that one blows my mind more Charlton Heston directed and produced and written by a one Tommy Wiseau a director that nobody has any idea what his origins are or if it's true or not
And then lastly, Birdemic, which sounds exactly like how it is, except you sit there wondering the entire movie, how did this many people get together and make a movie and edit it and not ask each other, why are we doing
up.
Stop asking questions.
film.
You sure look like a master to me.
This is Barry Gordy's The Last Driver.
It's about the power of the globe.
What does that
know.
the globe?
Yes, Jane.
The globe.
It is
Bridget asked me to watch the Meg and we got halfway through it and I was like, can I be done with this now?
Cause this is dumb.
I hate this.
And I don't do that for most movies.
I make it through.
I asked Dan what his favorite bad movie is and your response was.
Independence Day, which I don't think is a bad movie, but I get it.
But then you said any 90s disaster movie.
They often came in tandem.
It was like Armageddon and Deep Impact volcano and Dante's Peak.
So many
terrific 90s disaster movies.
There's been a few recent ones that have like reached the heights.
San Andreas with the rock was another terrific, enjoyably bad 90s disaster movies style, but Independence Day.
is either the best bad movie of all time, or the worst legitimately good movie of all time.
And it might be my favorite movie of all time.
And video livestream watchers can see over my shoulder, I have a signed photo, signed print from Independence Day signed by Jeff Goldblum.
The one of my very good friends got for me as a gift recently.
Oh, that's awesome.
A huge fan.
clip.
Scientists have been studying tornadoes forever, but still nobody knows how a tornado works.
It's a wonder of nature.
A young film see more often right there.
The sensors take scientific measurements.
You gotta get in front of the tornado and put in the damage pad.
You've gotta get further ahead of it.
I know what I'm doing.
Have you lost your nerve?
Tighten your seat belt.
It's a two o'clock.
It's heading this
way.
The storm's gonna be a lot bigger than we anticipated.
Cow.
I gotta go, Julia.
We got cows.
Hi there.
I would say Boondock Saints.
I said this over at St.
Patty's Day.
And I heard that thing about it and just let you know.
Boondock change three is going to be coming out.
I think that's
because we never learn our
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Just really quickly too, I want to mention this, there are about 1000 rallies and marches set for tomorrow.
These are grassroots groups that have said that April 5th is about, hey folks, let's all come together in one day and show the power of our voices and ensure our voices are heard.
about what we're seeing coming out of this administration.
So we will include this link in the show notes.
I know there are several happening around Wisconsin.
It's happening tomorrow.
And I expect there's going to be big turnout around the country.
Right now, it is 11.53.
Calvin, it's getting tight.
It is time for
this shouldn't be a thing.
A headline reads, Nevada man says seven seized tigers
or emotional support animals.
There's a problem here.
I don't see a problem.
Authorities in Nevada seized seven tigers.
From a property, the owner of the Big Cats claim they are his emotional support animals.
The Nye County Sheriff's Office worked with animal services to execute a search warrant at the home of Carl Mitchell, owner of Big Cats Entertainment.
Mr. Mitchell was being evicted from the property.
And the owner of the property was not being allowed onto the property to inspect.
We've known for several years, Mitchell had big cats on his property for the last two years.
This was in violation because he didn't have permits for it.
Mitchell was initially cooperative, eventually ended up getting arrested for resisting.
After physically struggling with a deputy, he should have gone and petted one of his big cats and then he might not have been so upset.
Our intention was to seize the cats according to the sheriff's office number one for public safety number two for the safety of the cats and then he went and struggled with the deputy Mitchell who is now out on bond Says the tigers are his emotional support animals quote the animals did not deserve to be snatched up knocked out with drugs shipped across the country when they were happy and Contents where they had lived for more than ten years
I'm a 100% disabled veteran with PTSD.
The VA and my doctors have approved the tigers to work as support animals.
Mitchell said six of these tigers were rescued from Joe Exotic.
Remember Joe Exotic?
Oh, I remember
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