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We are welcoming on the phone Judge Susan Crawford is our guest.
Good morning Judge Crawford.
I did want to ask you real briefly.
Our unelected co-president, Elon Musk, has announced that he is going to be in Wisconsin on Sunday night.
to personally hand over two checks for a million dollars for people who have already voted.
I'm wondering if your campaign is going to have a surprise announcement about handing out millions of dollars anytime soon.
People are also mad.
I think seeing Elon Musk come in and try to prop up the failing campaign of Brad Schimmel is really, really disturbing to people.
And people know Brad Schimmel's record.
They know that...
He left all those sexual assault kits untested when he was Attorney General.
They know about his extreme views on abortion, his support for the 1849 abortion ban in Wisconsin.
And I think a lot of voters are really disgusted with that, but they're also really enthusiastic about my candidacy and working really hard to get out the vote.
Yeah, thanks, Jane.
I wrote a piece last week on that and Judge Crawford, I wanted to ask, you know, since he refused to join these multi-state lawsuits taking on opioid manufacturers and took campaign dollars from Purdue Pharma, what does his record on this issue tell you about what type of justice he'd seek to be on the Wisconsin Supreme Court?
Brett Schimel has always been about politics, partisanship, and special interests throughout his career.
We're seeing him do the same thing now.
He has not prioritized the health and safety of Wisconsinites.
That's what he did when he was Attorney General, and I expected what we would see from him as a justice on the Supreme Court if we ever got there.
He has openly said that he wants to be part of Trump's support network on the court.
He's obviously accepted millions and millions of dollars of support from Elon Musk.
And Elon Musk, we know is in it because he's got financial interest in the state of Wisconsin.
His company Tesla filed a lawsuit against the state of Wisconsin, a case that's moving through our courts right now.
I think Elon Musk is looking to buy himself a seat on the Supreme Court so that he has some access and influence over the Wisconsin judiciary.
And I think he won't stop here in Wisconsin either.
I think he's looking at this as kind of a test case.
He's obviously got financial interests all over the country.
So I think if he can make this work here, we'd see him try to play the same game someplace else.
Of course, the election is Tuesday, April 1st.
You can vote early.
And if you're not sure where to go, go to myvote.wi.gov.
Myvote.wi.gov.
All you have to do is put in your address that is going to bring up where you want to go cast your ballot, where you can vote early, what is going to be on your.
ballot.
It's very important.
Turnout is very, very important.
We discussed Judge Crawford an article earlier this morning about early voting is already at like 500,000, which is big for a spring election in Wisconsin.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that, you know, they've started rethinking that those positions because they've seen that it doesn't actually help candidates and, you know, I encourage everybody to go and cast their ballot vote early.
It's an important exercise in democracy and we want to make sure that.
There's great turnout for this race.
I am asking people to vote for me because I'm the only candidate who's really pledged the affair and impartial justice who will interpret the law on the Supreme Court rather than partisan arm of the federal government.
But people should vote.
So I'm on the road right now heading to Beloit at the moment.
Additional stops today, tomorrow, Sunday, and Monday right up until the end of the campaign.
And we have been on the road basically for the last week nonstop, talking to as many voters as we possibly can in this.
big final push.
We're just going to try to end really strong and encourage people to get out the vote.
It is
We're going to continue our conversation with Dan a little bit more about
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When we were talking to Judge Crawford, Dan, and we only touched on this briefly, but again, our non-elected co-president, Elon Musk, now announcing he's going to be in Wisconsin on Sunday, to hand out million dollar checks to people who got paid $100 to sign this petition against activist judges.
How is this legal?
It used to be a poll tax was when we charged folks
or made them jump through hoops, unnecessary hoops in order to get to vote.
Isn't this a poll gift?
Well, I think for one, Elon Musk is openly acting more egregiously than any right-wing fever dream about what liberals might do in an election.
And of course, not a single so-called conservative will care, because this is never actually about election integrity for them.
It's only ever about power.
So that's for one.
And two, it does seem like I've poked around a little bit on this.
There was a post from Rick Hassan on the election law blog saying that this looks to be violating Wisconsin law.
And just in from the official statement from the Democratic Party of Wisconsin chair, Ben Wickler, he said that Elon Musk, quote, Elon Musk has committed a blatant felony.
by offering money for votes in order to help Brad Schimmel.
Musk's illegal election bribery scheme to put Brad Schimmel on the Supreme Court is a chainsaw attack on democracy and the rule of law in Wisconsin and our nation.
So that's what we're up against right now.
That's what we're looking at.
Yeah.
And I think it is, it's just so, you know, we've heard so many claims for so long over the years from Wisconsin Republicans about, you know, if this type of activity happened, you're right, if it was George Soros or somebody on the laughter, whatever it might be, you know, a conservative talk radio would just spontaneously combust.
This is nothing more than the, the, at least in the past, I would say George Bush Tea Party years and on of this, being able to switch lanes with no explanation.
And anytime you're called off for hypocrisy, they just brush it off their shoulders and keep walking forward.
I mean, we mentioned it earlier in this, in this hour a year ago, early voting was theft.
It was egregious.
It was anti-American.
You hated the elections if you tried to vote early.
And then all of a sudden, just on a Tuesday, it's great.
I mean, Donald Trump in a speech would say, you got to vote early and say how terrible it was.
And people are like, yeah, totally, I guess.
And then that's it.
They don't have to answer to why all of a sudden they just changed their mind.
They never have to explain why they changed their mind or think what they do.
Roy Cohn playbook.
And if you don't know who Roy Cohn is, I highly suggest that you look him up.
He was the guy that Roger Stone learned everything from.
And Roy Cohn is the lawyer that Donald Trump has referenced more than once.
Where is my Roy Cohn?
And his three world rules were never accept responsibility, double down.
And blame the other guy attack attack attack attack and never ever admit that you were wrong No,
Just can't see me.
No worries
So it's just so over the top what's happening with this right now.
It's so far over the top and it's You know, but Wisconsin had this is a piece that I wrote a wrote about a couple weeks ago Wisconsin has a unique opportunity to send a message to Elon Musk
unbelievable amount of spending and activity and bribery that he is bringing to this election, it will be a shot heard around the world.
It will resonate.
in such a profound way if Wisconsin to voters defeat this.
We have such a unique opportunity in front of us right now.
And it will also have a profound effect if it works because Elon Musk will take this to every state around the country and do the exact same thing.
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And Dan, this just breaking as we came back on the air, we were talking about our unelected co-president Elon Musk, who's going to be coming to Wisconsin on Sunday.
This posted on Twitter knew Elon Musk has just deleted this tweet from 1 a.m.
about his upcoming talk in Wisconsin.
The rules surrounding these checks have drawn some legal scrutiny.
Talking about Elon's post Sunday night, I'll give a talk in Wisconsin entrance limited to those who have voted in the Supreme Court election.
I will personally hand over two checks for a million dollars each in appreciation for you taking the time to vote.
And now that post is gone.
That seems to be where this is headed.
And I think the fact that the Wisconsin, you know, minutes after we just read the statement right before the break from Ben Wickler at the Wisconsin Democratic Party talking about how this is blatantly violating Wisconsin election law, saying he committed a blatant felony, and the fact that he takes the post down.
Uh, just minutes after that press release goes out.
That's, that's pretty interesting.
It's very
I mean, it seems like he should, uh, at least take note of the fact that this is happening and that's could warrant an investigation and perhaps just to say that.
We are looking into this just as we are looking into, you know, all so many other things surrounding, you know, election law regarding the spring election, right?
We're looking into all aspects of what's legal going into this and this, you know, clearly there are some red flags here.
or Tesla tips or something like the like like the Zuckerbucks and and just to just to clarify that the money that Mark Zuckerberg provided came in the form of grants that municipalities would apply for to help them to all municipalities could apply for to help them run their elections.
He was not giving out money to individual people to go vote.
Well, what's funny is that when Zucker bucks was happening, it's Mark Zuckerberg giving away money to all the democratic city so they can cheat on the election.
As soon as he came out and said, Hey, you know, we're going to do away with all this stuff.
And he became a friend of Donald Trump.
They never said anything about Zucker bucks again.
In fact, they probably welcome Zucker bucks now because he stood next to Trump at the inauguration and, you know, he's buddies with Dana White and all that stuff.
But I had a question for both you and Dan about.
uh, Brad Schimmel really fast.
Um, he has been running since the end of the last Supreme court.
He's been, he said he's been running for 18 months and he's been, he's doing the work.
Great.
Talking to people going all around the state.
And do you think that had he not aligned himself so hard, and I'm not, I'm not assuming, I'm, I'm no way saying Susan Crawford is going to win.
I'm just saying in the last week,
In a half, two weeks, there's been a definite stink on Brad Schimmel.
Had he just stuck to his plan of just running and he could say, Hey, Elon Musk can do whatever he wants.
Donald Trump can do whatever they want.
I'm going to run and have been more of a candidate like Susan Crawford.
Do you think he'd have better, I guess
If he put some daylight between that, between that movement and his own campaign, do you think he'd be, he'd be in a better position?
Cause I feel like right now people are.
really tired of Brad Schimmel, especially the fact that he's making no bones about declaring how he feels about all of these topics that are on the top minds of Wisconsinites.
If that's, if that question makes any sense at all, I just feel like had he just run a campaign, he'd been fine, but instead he just got immediately into bed with the mega movement.
So, so do you think it is something like if he had not, because I think this race is in many ways becoming a referendum on Elon Musk.
Yes.
Right.
And so is what you're saying that like, if he had not made this situation where this election became a referendum on Elon Musk, that he'd be in better shape?
Yeah, okay You know, I don't think he had a great record as Attorney General I mean that's something I wrote about in that piece on opioid settlements that he refused to take on opioid manufacturers at that time and you know We've obviously heard so many times about the the untested rape kits like there was a reason he was not reelected after one term as state Attorney General and I think he has been running
Even, you know, Elon Musk, the Elon Musk of it all aside, like even before all of that, he was running a just like an unbelievably partisan campaign.
And it seemed like the statement of his campaign was if we Trump won Wisconsin in November, if we get the, if we get Trump voters out in April, then we're going to win.
So I think that was the approach that he's really been taking all along.
Uh, is to just really, you know, go hard on being ultra partisan in this race.
And I think he's, he's veering into like Dan Kelly, Mike Gabelman territory over and over again, because I think that's the type of justice he would be.
And I think the, and that's the thing is when I think of Brad Schimel, I think of Dan Kelly, Dan Kelly appointed to the Supreme court under weird circumstances and then immediately not reelected because.
He was not the right man for the job.
And of course, took it like a professional too, by the way.
But yeah, okay, thank you.
Cause that's what I, cause he's, he tried to play this aw shucks.
Like, I'm just a guy who's trying to, I want to be, I want to do right.
Right.
And it is.
But I also think like at the end of the day, it's like, could we be talking on April 2nd and say, you know, if Schimmel wins, we're talking like, well, of course, the richest man in the world spending more money than anyone.
Yeah.
Doing all of this stuff in the final stretch, just like he did in November.
Couldn't we, you know, wake up?
that next morning say well of course that's what that's what guy he tried to buy a seat and he did
And now we're soaring past 100 million with more and more than double what the record was five years ago from one single individual.
And you know, don't so many of these elections come down to just following the money whoever spends the most has the best chance of winning an election.
Like I think.
You know, it's clearly, I think it's really Schimel's best chance to win is to just embrace as much of this spending as he possibly can, because I think a lot of it's going to field operations, too, and really get out the vote type of stuff.
And
going to be a huge factor, because, you know, in the 2023 race that Janet Protasewicz won, you know, there was less than two million people who voted in that election.
And there were more than, there was like close to 3.4 million people who voted in the presidential election last year.
So there are going to be about a million voters who voted last fall, who aren't going to be showing up in the election this year.
And you know, whatever impact that Elon's money that the Musk bucks.
uh, are going to have on this election, that's going to go a really long way.
And I think, you know, I think we're going to have, I think this could hit two million voters in turnout.
a by-election day and that's going to be, that will set a record probably for Wisconsin Supreme Court races, given all the spending, all the attention, all the national proxy war, right?
That this race very much has become, there's so much on the line with this.
There was so much on the line with this just for Wisconsin, just like it was two years ago in the protosewitz race.
There's so much more.
national symbolic resonance on the line for the race here between Schimel and Crawford.
Yeah.
It's a problem across the board.
What Elon is doing is taking this to a ridiculous new level that we have never seen before at a time where he is basically controlling the federal government.
Yep.
The merger of money and power that we're seeing emblem, you know, encapsulated by what's going on with Elon Musk is like nothing we've ever seen before.
Wisconsin voters have to show up and stop this.
And it would send such a profound message.
And if you sat out the last election, if you sat out the presidential election, please get up this time and vote.
It's gonna be a close election.
There is no front runner at this point.
We don't know what's gonna happen just in the next couple of days.
And as Rob McFarland has said when he's called in here and on other shows on Civic, talk to folks you know.
Talk to folks in your community.
Talk to folks who are friends at the grocery store.
And just ask them, hey, are you going to vote on Tuesday?
Do you have any questions about it?
Here's what I can tell you.
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Share what you know.
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This shouldn't be a thing.
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What?
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The first part from Ben Hooper and UPI, Otters escaped from Wisconsin's zoo enclosure amid snowstorm.
Keepers at the new zoo and adventure park in Green Bay said the North American river otters Louis and Ophelia.
escaped during a winter storm early on March 20th when they had a big snowstorm up there.
There was a little breach in the fencing that they managed to push through.
Their absence was noted immediately by zookeepers doing their morning rounds.
Tracks in the fresh snow were evident.
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Zoo security camera footage.
show the otters playing in the snow after they got out.
We will include this in our show notes so you can watch the video of it.
North American river otters are native to our area, so they're very comfy in the climate.
The zoo is surrounded by natural ponds and other waterways, so they're not really concerned about their well-being because they're kind of in their own natural habitat.
They still like to get them back.
Now the second part of their otter be a law.
Ben Hooper with the follow-up.
Headline reads, Raccoons impede attempts to capture Wisconsin zoos escaped otters.
The New Zoo and Adventure Park in Green Bay revealed not too long ago that the river otters Louis and Ophelia escaped during a March 20 snowstorm.
They have tried to set up traps to get the otters back.
Raccoons, quote,
have unfortunately impeded some of our efforts, even setting off the traps not long before an otter arrived and tried to go in.
Officials say they are now attempting to use raccoon-proof traps to ensnare the otters.
So the raccoons are coming to the rescue, essentially.
You're a fellow mammal.
Yeah, I got you.
I got you.
We got your back.
Yeah.
We got your tail.
Greg will have that in the show notes.
And I'm assuming there will be a part three of this ongoing series, Louis and Ophelia in the Wild.
Hopefully.
Some knucklehead isn't going to go looking for and harm them.
Some what?
Some knucklehead.
Oh,
Yeah.
Leave him alone.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Let him be happy and do otter things.
But thank you, Calvin, again, for finding another really good.
You're good at this, Calvin.
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