The Most Incompetent People (Hour 1)

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Yeah.

So stick around for that.

We did want to start off though It's a week from today Right.

Yeah.

Oh my god.

Why don't you think it's Wednesday?

The election is a week from today.

Yep We are going to Select a Supreme Court justice Either Brad Schimmel or Susan Crawford.

We're gonna be electing a new head of the Department of Public Instruction

either Brittany Kinzer or Jill Underly.

And then, of course, there's that constitutional amendment as well.

But I think the state Supreme Court race has pulled in so much money.

And it's a very, very important race.

Yeah.

And just by the looks of what I'm seeing on social media from outside, like influencers in the political sphere, this is whether you want to talk about

What's at stake for Wisconsin, the money that's being spent, the candidates themselves, just like two years ago, just like two years ago, this is, this is an important race.

And I'm kind of glad that it's a spring, no, I'm not kind of, I am glad it is a spring race that there's not a lot on the ballot

because

it definitely gets swallowed up by other things.

If it, for some reason, I mean, it wouldn't be a fall thing, but

if it was during presidential time or was during, but it needs its own

attention.

It does.

This is very, very important.

And I think it's important because we have talked about this quite a bit.

Wisconsin Public Radio today, Rich Creamer with the My Line headline reads, Ron Johnson, Wisconsin senior senator.

Ron Johnson says, we have to thank Elon if Brad Schimmel wins the Wisconsin Supreme Court race.

This is very important to Elon.

Yeah.

This race.

Yes.

Because he has a case that could end up, don't tell me, before the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

And wouldn't it be nice if he had his guy on the Wisconsin Supreme Court, the guy that he's funneled millions and millions and millions of dollars to, in order to, I don't know, potentially rule in his favor.

But Jane, that.

Like, why would we be nervous about that?

It's not like Brad Schimel has gone around and told everybody what he thinks about certain cases and certain headlines have come through the news in the past few years, Jane.

That would be ridiculous.

Yeah.

During an online forum with Elon to promote conservative Supreme Court candidate Brad Schimel, Republican U.S.

Senator Ron Johnson said, quote, we have to thank Elon.

if Shimmel wins the April 1st election.

No serious, they have to, they have to send him a card.

Like, it's gonna be like a thing where Trump is gonna be like, you think, you think, Elon?

Make you better, make you better, let

him know how grateful you are.

Get to the grovelin,

that's the

worst, it's hardest on the knees, but get to the grovelin.

Get to

the grovelin, absolutely.

Elon's PAC recently started paying people 100 bucks here in Wisconsin.

to sign a petition against activist judges.

Okay.

A statement from Susan Crawford's campaign described this event as Elon Musk's check-in with his $12 million investment.

And Alicia Saunders on the live stream, I believe it was yesterday, said it brilliantly.

She said, well, yeah, of course I'm not going to vote for an activist judge.

I'm going to vote for Susan Crawford.

Susan Crawford, thank you.

Because Brad Schimel is the epitome.

of activist judge, period.

Yeah.

Strict conservative.

Yeah.

Constitutionalist.

Well, and

fair and we'll listen to the people.

Right.

Even though, you know, the 1849 abortion ban is not flawed.

It's perfectly fine.

It's really good legislation.

There's a really heartbreaking article in today's Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

referring to this 1849 ban and what it is doing to women who are alive.

Women who live in

Wisconsin.

And if you want any other, read that article, but also go back to in our archives and look for the show entitled Laurel's Story.

It's absolutely worth a listen.

It is hard to listen to.

Yes, it is.

It is very, very, she describes in great detail what happened to her.

This is what happens when you have a murky old Law on the books that does not define what a woman can do to receive good Proper health care.

This is health care.

This is health

abortion is health

care

Yeah, it actually is yeah eight five five seven five two four eight four two There's also another great story in today's Milwaukee Journal Sentinel from Daniel Bice Elon Musk doorknocker wants you to vote for Brad Schimel, but can't tell you why

Ooh.

I mean, I know that they're paying people now

to go

knock on doors.

And I'm assuming some of them are from out of state, but you would just have a little card to refer back to.

That's part of the training.

Like when you train doorknockers, you give them the bullet points, three or four things to talk about.

But no, they don't.

They just know because the doorknockers that are coming down, the mailers that come to my neighborhood are all

for Brad Schimmel with pictures of Donald Trump.

Right.

So it doesn't matter because Brad Schimmel has said he will be support the support system for Donald Trump.

So they don't need to know who Brad Schimmel is.

All you need to do is be like, you like Donald Trump?

Well, that guy's your guy.

I just have never heard before that it was the responsibility of a state Supreme Court justice to be a support system for the current White House administration.

It seems like a

first.

Yeah, it's I mean.

If anything, you are, you are a balance.

Well, you know, I've never heard that either.

I mean, the US Supreme Court can be a support system.

I mean, that's what they are right now.

Essentially,

for the most part

of Robert's had a little pushback

last

week.

That's not going to last.

Yeah, that's not

going to last.

But yeah, I'm sure I'm sure that Brad Schimmel dialed her play.

All right, cool.

Thanks, Brad.

Appreciate you.

I

don't know, whatever.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, if you'd like to join us.

Rob from Port Edwards is on the line.

Good morning, Rob.

Thanks for joining us.

What do you want to say?

Good morning, folks.

Great show.

Thank you.

I've been door knocking for Susan Crawford and Jill Underly, and voting no on the Constitutional Amendment for well over a month.

And the thing that I would suggest to the listeners out there

talk to people, actually go and talk to them.

They're bombarded on television and radio.

They're bombarded on radio programs.

You name the media source, and in large case, it's not getting through because you would be amazed at the number of people that once I actually talked to them said, well, one, I really wasn't sure when the election was.

Go figure.

I'm not going to ask them, why don't you know?

That's not right.

They don't necessarily know when and where to vote.

And in the small community, it's kind of limited.

There's only one place to go on the day of and the one place to go early.

And they really aren't sure about the candidates per se because they've shut them all down.

But if you talk person to person, a friend, a neighbor, someone that actually trusts you to give them the straight dope, it goes miles.

What do you say?

Thank

you so

much, Rob.

And

you are so right.

We've been saying this for a long time.

Share what you know.

Share what you know.

And it sounds like a small, insignificant thing.

It's not.

Just listen to Rob.

And something that Rob, Rob, I thought that was very, very important is that these campaigns can bombard people with commercials, radio ads, things coming to your mailer and get to the point where people are frustrated and upset and don't want to do anything.

If you talk to them and say, hey, don't worry about all that noise.

Let's just talk me and you.

What do you have questions about?

What can I do to answer?

Let's both look stuff up.

We can do this together.

It makes people feel better because I think a lot of people want to get involved in the process, but they're just hit with so much stuff that they get frustrated

or overwhelmed.

It's exhausting.

Absolutely.

We're going to switch gears a little bit when we come back.

Trump administration official has thoughts.

If you are complaining about not getting your Social Security check bad news for you, that's all on the way.

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And I'm proud

of them too.

Well, and doesn't it make you feel good to see their thought processes play out in an unsecured channel

when they're discussing war plans?

I just have Lee Greenwood just on a loop in my head right now singing right now how proud I would be American because of it.

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I did want to share this briefly before we get to the news because I think it's really important.

We've talked a lot about social security and what is going to happen now under a second Trump administration.

What's going to happen to social security?

They've already talked their closing offices all over the place.

Yeah.

But never fear, you guys, all is well.

One of Donald Trump's cabinet members was on Fox, I believe, recently talking about people on social security.

And if they don't, what happens if they don't get their checks?

Calvin, let's play that clip, please, from Howard Lucknick.

Didn't send out their

checks.

this month, my mother-in-law, who's 94, she wouldn't call and complain.

She just wouldn't.

She'd think something got messed up and she'll get it next

month.

A fraudster always makes the loudest noise screaming and yelling and complaining.

So essentially,

Howard Letnick, who is worth multi-millions,

That's why his mother-in-law is not going to complain about her not giving her social security check because she's going to be just fine.

If you don't get your social security check and you call to find out where it is, you're a cheater and you're a fraudster and you aren't deserving of that check.

Okay,

okay, all right, all right, all

right,

all

right.

So,

yeah.

Let's, I'm going to be Howard Lucknick's mother-in-law.

I'm 94.

And let's say I do need my social security.

And I also remember the days of big band, but I'm not calling that first month because I think something's up.

Okay.

Month two, I'm going to call and say, Hey, I didn't receive my check last month.

I'm not going to scream.

I'm not going to yell because I'm polite.

Right.

But I didn't receive my check this month as well as last month.

What's happening right now?

if they keep calling because they're not getting their checks, if they, if, let me put it this way, if there is a natural screw up, sometimes things happen.

The department will take their pathway to get it taken care of, get you your money done.

But if I'm not getting my check for the first month and then I'm not getting my check for the second month, then I want to know where is my money?

Not just why is it not my bank account, but what have you done with my money?

Because I know,

you guys want to cut Social Security.

So the scenario Mr. Lutnick is playing out is factually inaccurate to someone who's just trying to, as I've said before on the show, my mother-in-law, who's not 94, two-thirds of her income rely on Social Security.

There are a lot of folks who depend upon Social Security.

And

if she doesn't get that first

month, she's going to call.

Well, unfortunately now,

They're getting rid of people at social security.

So there are fewer people there are fewer people to answer the phones So the Trump administration's response to that is well, then just go to the office in person Unfortunately, they're closing social security offices around the country one could posit that they don't want they want to make it harder Yeah, for people to get their social security benefits

and also put a a

Make it seem like you are rude or fraudulent for even asking in the first place They're trying to make you look like a bad person for asking for that which you are entitled

to

so Don't listen to that said like if you don't get your money you call You do what you can to get through to them and you be I mean I'm always gonna be polite, but you're not a fraudster.

You're not a cheat You've put in you've paid your dues and the money's yours

Tony on the live stream says, so you go hungry for a week or two.

What's the big deal?

Yeah.

We're talking about meds sometimes or food or meds or rent for folks who depend upon social security.

Are you even talking about saying that to a human being?

Let alone an elderly person.

Just skip a lunch.

Skip a dinner.

Howard Lutnik's mother-in-law is going to be fine.

Therefore, your mother-in-law is going to be fine.

Apparently.

This is

so disgusting.

Calvin, let's play that clip just one more time before we go to break.

I think it's important that we understand what Trump administration officials think about social security recipients.

Didn't send out their checks this month.

My mother-in-law, who's 94, she wouldn't call and complain.

She just wouldn't.

She thinks something got messed up and she'll get it next month.

Oh, she's a nice lady.

A fraudster.

Hmm.

Always makes the loudest noise screaming yelling and complaining.

So if you call and complain, apparently

you are a fraudster.

And a grifter or a huckster will say something like that to make you feel like you're not entitled to what you deserve.

It's not.

It's an intimidation tactic.

Absolutely.

And so if you call and complain then what your name is marked.

Oh, I didn't even think about that.

Right.

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Well, I thought you would be a wonderful person to talk about.

all the most competent people.

Yes.

In the Trump administration, after that little oopsie, sharing war plans.

No, no, he said he didn't share war plans.

Oh, no.

No.

Oh, no, no, no.

Wasn't me.

There are recipes.

Oh, they're right.

For big missiles.

Sharing

recipes on an unsecured platform, not in a skiff, which is a secure place to.

doesn't the government have specific channels

why yes they do as a matter of fact my understanding is the government officials are required to use specific channels when in conducting their business especially these kinds of things so my you know there's so many things to unpack on this yes yes great I have another

question are while talking about these super secret plans that could you know be warlike are

you supposed

to also involve

journalists in their discussions.

Oh,

that's right.

Are you

supposed to like, it's like, I mean, we, I mean, I have a group chat with my sister and my wife.

I have a group chat with my mom and my sister.

And sometimes it's like, oh, mom's really getting out of my nerves.

Oh.

Yeah,

typically, I believe when you are discussing things among government officials, particularly, you know, war plans.

You don't include journalists.

No, that's not that's

not a tip.

You're not normally

on the fight list standard standard operating procedure.

No, it is not

I should be writing this down

and and to this reporters credits

He did not share everything that he saw and he could have.

Yeah.

Yeah, he didn't he didn't and thankfully it was it was that the Atlantic editor I mean the editor for crying out loud And but but it is it is stunning and I don't know you know right now that we have we have Tulsi gabbered and there's hearings going on as we speak About this and it should there should be I mean there there should be some

consequence to these actions.

There's so many things about this, you know, the reaction of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, you got to be kidding me with the eye roll thing because all we heard for years, what about her emails?

What about it?

You know, and ultimately, you know, there is some there there.

I mean, why are you using an email server?

Those are those are those are things that can be considered.

Where is the criticism now?

As far as I understand, Fox News is praising our leaders.

This is

what, Fox?

This is the spin.

This is the spin, at least for right now.

This is the spin from Fox News.

Host Will Cain says, quote, again, this unsecured discussion on signal, discussing war plans.

Quote, it is insight into the thought process and dialogue of our national leaders.

I think you will come away proud.

These are the leaders making these decisions in America.

You mean the same leaders who made the decision to have this discussion on an unsecured app?

Those leaders?

Those leaders.

Two things I'm going to say.

One, I don't disagree with you, Dom, on the whole Hillary Clinton email thing.

It was their go-to.

If they didn't have Benghazi, it was her emails.

But we also learned there were many other people in the government at the time who were using their own private servers, using different emails.

So it was the fact they were targeting her.

But also, I wonder what would have happened if, say, General Eisenhower would have written to the New York Times said,

hey, we

have this really good plan for storming the beaches of Normandy.

Here it all is.

Do me a favor, don't tell anybody either.

And

Fox News would be like, if

that

were to be the case.

speech party, you know what I'm saying?

And the response from Fox News, yes, this is insight into the thought process.

That is accurate.

And yes, these are the leaders.

Now the part in between about being proud.

totally disagree with.

I mean, this is it's like frat party central.

These guys are sending smiley facing emojis, fist bump emojis.

I mean, this is this isn't a joke, people.

And then what, Stephen Miller is on there trying to shake down Egypt and Europe.

What's what are we going to get?

What's the remuneration they're going to give us for this effort if we open up these shipping lanes?

They're looking for a payday.

Well, everything is quick pro quo with

this administration.

And that if these cats are using something like signal with for this kind of activity,

What else are they using it for?

Retain these records these things were scheduled to be deleted on specific time frames.

They're not only Hiding this from us.

They're dangerously Playing games here.

So from Franklin listening on WAUK.

I read that these chats can be set to delete

After a certain amount of time, so how many other texts have they sent using this platform that have already been lost?

And Hegseth and Trump both trashing the Atlantic and the editor, Lion Deflect is always their response.

Lion

Deflect, you're absolutely

right.

discredited news source.

It's the Atlantic.

It's older than your grandparents.

What are you talking about?

And the other thing too is when we come to a situation like this where you have to believe, you want to believe, there is no further down we can go on this.

I need to

ask the listeners who disagree with us, how do you defend this beyond, you can't say you have to be proud because that's a dumb line from Fox and you can't say it's a mistake.

How do you defense do you think there should be consequences in a real-world situation in a job if you shared company secrets?

You're gonna get fired So what is your defense or what do you think should happen?

And do you believe that there should be consequences listeners who disagree with us?

I wouldn't I would love to know I would love to

know

Unfortunately, I think for the hardcore supporters, there is no line.

There

is no

line.

Everything is

justifiable.

Everything is fine if it's done by

Trump.

Right.

There is no line and there is no consistency in their criticism.

If there were, they would be all over this calling for Pete Hague's this and everybody else's head.

And here's the other thing about this, you know, this leadership, our national security leadership.

No, we got, we got.

All these Intel folks, not one of these folks said, you know, maybe we should take this somewhere else.

No, no one, no one, no one stood up and said, Hey, this is a bad idea doing this on here.

Everyone was, yeah, let's do this tonight.

We got, we got a full operational ops that we're totally secure.

Hey Seth, what?

And then he gets in front of the cameras and his, his, not only the words that come out of his mouth, but his mannerism, his demeanor, the way he is, it is, it is.

And, and, and he basically pulled the night, uh, Eddie Murphy, raw.

Was it raw?

I think it was raw 87.

wasn't me yeah right no there were no there were no well yeah wasn't me there was no there was no war

plan no it wasn't me

no no no

half the chat saying it was you know it was this and he's saying it didn't happen and he has that he has that what what su was referring to when he when he's trying to discredit the atlantic a how dare you approach to it as well like so so

offended that anyone would dare question what they do.

That's how he comes in because he's just a bully.

He is an idiot bully who failed his way into this job.

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Kathleen from Libertyville.

Listening on WAUK, Hexeth was coming at the reporter like it was the reporter's

fault.

Now you included the reporter in this chat.

He didn't wiggle his way into this thing.

And also, if anything, Pete Hexeth should be calling this man saying, thank you for not sharing this.

What's your favorite kind of flowers?

Because honestly, he didn't have to say anything about the Atlantic.

He could just say,

Whatever is going to happen is going to happen and we will deal with if he decides to leak which would probably be classified information But the report said no he just simply said no and that for him should be the end of it But not all Pete.

Hey you Seth.

He's got to get all Boiled under the collar about it.

If you are just joining us.

We were talking about the incredible competence Displayed by members of the Trump administration talking about war plans and talking about it on signal

which is an app we can all use

or even with a journalist.

They didn't know they invited

that they.

Yeah.

Whoopsie doodles

from.

OK, that's the other thing.

That's the other.

And it's

his fault.

Can we can we also just take a moment?

This group of hardcore Trumpers.

Yes.

Who think the Atlantic and I'm sure the nation and MSNBC.

All of these.

They're nothing but commie rags.

Who.

invited the Atlantic, like if they wouldn't have invited Fox News or Newsmax or the Wall Street Journal or something, I get that.

But that's real, that is

dumb.

Well, and I guess what gets me also is we have heard from the beginning that this will be the most transparent administration in history.

It

is, we saw the

stuff.

Apparently so.

It's

open to anybody.

I mean... Well, and vice president,

Keeping Vance and pants up Vance and Vance was on this and he was softly questioning whether or not the timing is right Should we do this because there's some back and forth on that and Hicks out the way his response to the vice president was essentially Number one time isn't going to change the scenario and number two the longer we wait, you know it might leak

Yeah, that might that might happen.

It's all on there It is it is just it's amateur hour.

It's bushly gets all of those things and there's there's no Regret there's no Admission of of error ever never own anything ever it's always everybody else and everything else and again if this is happening on this kind of level just think of all the things that we don't know

yeah, and it goes back to

I'm sorry, but Donald Trump is the head of this, and all of his people in his administration have now adopted the, I don't take responsibility for anything.

It's the Roy Cohn

School of Public Defense.

Yes, yes.

You attack, attack, attack.

You never admit fall.

I mean, my God, we were talking about this last week, about five years on COVID.

Him being asked, do you feel a responsibility for your administration?

No, I don't take any

responsibility.

President of the United States, you know what you could do?

Honestly, Donald Trump, if you were smart, if you were this smart, you'd fire most of them and get people who are just as loyal to you and to show

I will not tolerate this kind of stupidity.

And that is largely their biggest qualification is the amount of loyalty they have to him.

Donald Trump speaking about this, uh, uh, walls, Mike Walls, National Security Advisor, Mike Walls, a lot of calls now for him to step down.

And, uh, the Trump administration is saying he's learned his lesson.

He learned his lesson.

Why would you fire someone who's already loyal and now owes you a favor?

Because now you're super loyal.

You know what I'm saying?

Now you got them under their th-

I did see that Mike, I'm sorry, Mark Warner, the Senator from Virginia, he is calling for, and they're in this meeting right now, this hearing right now, calling for National Security Advisor Mike Walls and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to resign.

He will never get rid of Hegseth.

I can see them sacrificing Walls as the sacrificial lamb.

He will

never get rid of Hegseth.

Hegseth was too much of a pretty boy for that.

He is a symbol for them.

And what I really want to know, and I haven't seen from the hearings yet, was it just the wrong digit?

Like, were they going to invite someone else and just go and board?

Right, right.

How did that happen?

I want to know, literally, did you go through and click and drag the wrong... I'm just curious, what was the actual functional practical invitation process whereby this editor from the Atlantic was invited to this?

We're going to continue this discussion.

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Welcome back to Matt and air on air Jane Matt and air Greg Bach Calvitini on the board Coming to you from our studio here at radio park in Racine You can always join us caller text at 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook YouTube and the platform shedding more users than a molting parrot If you're just joining us we're talking about this little oopsie

National Security Advisor Mike Walls, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, and many others in the Trump administration, discussing top secret war plans two hours before US troops conducted a bombing raid in Yemen.

They did this not in a skiff, not in a secure government facility, not even apparently using government-issued phones, unsignaled, which we can all use.

In fact,

NPR's Tom Bowman has just learned that a Pentagon-wide email went out last week about the vulnerability of using signal, quote, a vulnerability has been identified in the signal messenger application.

The app is the same one used by Pete Hegseth and other leading national security officials within the administration.

Dude, did you not get.

Did you read the memo?

Did you get the memo?

They got the memo.

Did you read

the memo?

Cindy from Appleton has been very patient.

Good morning, Cindy.

Thank you for joining us.

What do you want to say?

Well, with this national insecurity stuff, it begs the question, who are they selling us out to?

The highest bidder.

Well, yeah.

I agree.

It's the highest bidder.

Yeah.

And it's the it's the elons and the peter teals And I can name a whole bunch of guys who were in the first trump administration who are gonna make bank on this That's that's my opinion city.

What do you think?

I Don't I just honestly the incompetence and the stupidity is just more than my brain can comprehend anymore I mean, it's it's it's almost laughable, but it's not funny at all

No, I agree with you Cindy, I do.

Thank you for calling and thank you for listening.

It's just the kind of behavior that in any other situation, any business, you'd be fired into school, you'd be suspended.

Anything that would, you would act this stupidly, there would be real consequences.

If any other administration, any democratic administration, if this had happened under Obama,

or biden impeachment oh my god the screeching would never end but this has been the case with so many other instances

yeah they don't have consistency in their criticism and you're absolutely right jane to the point uh we heard donald trump yesterday when i asked about this i don't know i don't know what are you talking about

i don't know

i don't know if that were to be joe uh joe biden up there saying i don't know i don't know the right wing would be going freaking nuts

and now

competent yes of course these things but what do we see now and it's consistent if that were to be the case

I would also be like, damn, Joe, you know, when Joe got, I was like, whew.

I like to think in, when we observe and talk about these, these issues were consistent, you know, we have the ability to do that.

And I certainly want, you know, one side to win, you know, I'm a partisan in that regard, but I'm not going to willing to give up my own principles and values just because my guys on that team, if you see something so blatantly obvious, there's more than just the politics here.

This is literally a national security.

And all the all the screaming and crying and posting over the years from all these Republicans about Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, all you got to be very careful father.

And now they're defending to the last these efforts

and trying to sell it as it's a good thing.

It's a good thing.

It's looking how smart and competent they are.

I am still trying to wrap my head around the whole emotion, the whole emoji portion of it.

it is like being ruled by frat boys.

Yeah, it's juvenile.

It is.

It's absolutely

juvenile.

Frat boys, like they're being ruled by 12.

I'm sorry if there's any frat boys listening, I

apologize.

I guess going back to the original question I had in the earlier segment about those who disagree with us and what do you think the punishment should actually be, I guess the question is, if you think there should be no punishment, why are you so easily able to change?

Change the standard.

Disconnect.

Why is this okay to you?

Make that make sense to me.

I'm not that smart apparently.

And anywhere else in the chain of command in a military operation, if this were to happen, if it weren't, if it were a general or a sergeant, whatever the case, those cats would be gone.

Gone.

Gone.

Gone.

Gone.

855-7524842.

Ollie from the Northwoods on the line.

Good morning, Ollie.

What do you want to say about this?

Well, I agree with you about the frat boy things.

That's exactly what I was thinking when I first heard the actual transcripts of what they said.

They were like a bunch of frat boys setting up a panty raid.

And not only that, then they have to talk about the other boys in their class that they don't like.

And so therefore, they're standing out there talking about the other governments.

and who they don't like, which makes other governments look at us even worse than the day Trump...

Well, right, Ali.

How can other countries assume that the United States is trustworthy anymore?

Yeah.

Well, I mean, the Canadian, the guy who took over Justin Trudeau, said plainly, two and a half weeks ago, America is a country we can no longer trust.

Thank you, Ali.

I appreciate you checking in.

And that's Canada.

That's not one of our enemies.

That's Canada.

That's evil Canadians.

Oh, I knew it.

I knew it was

something in that syrup.

Not not only the national security risk, not only inviting the Atlantic editor, not only using emojis as our national security, I don't know, pom poms, they they rip on Europe and they try to extort Europe and in Egypt in this in this whole effort.

Oh, I'm so sick of bailing out Europe.

What are we going to get for it if we do this?

There's so much here.

Got to be.

Great.

We don't do anything for nothing, Dom.

You got to pay for it.

That ain't that the truth.

Dom Salvia, catch him this afternoon.

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She is a board member for Wisconsin Ukrainians.

Karina Tweedel is on with us.

Good morning, Karina.

Thanks so much for being here.

Good morning.

Thank you so much for having me.

Absolutely.

Karina, tell us a little bit about the organization that you're with and its founding and how it got started and all of that, if you would please give us a little background.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

So when the full scale invasion of Ukraine started, a lot of us felt very passionate about trying to do anything that we can to try and resist and support our relatives and friends in Ukraine.

And it was difficult to find an organization that was local where we could donate and they were

quite a few community members that gather together and form Wisconsin Ukrainians and I'm so proud to be a part of it.

We work directly with volunteers on the front lines who are able to pass along the medical supplies and other humanitarian aid that we're able to raise money for and ship directly to Ukraine.

I cannot imagine the level of frustration that you and other members of your organization must be feeling right now with the switch that has happened with the second Trump administration and its attitude towards Ukraine.

And at least for me, I find it especially disturbing when I see our elected officials coming out and essentially repeating talking points from the Kremlin.

They are repeating talking points from Vladimir Putin

and trying to place Ukraine as the aggressor in all of this, when it is Russia that essentially went in and went into Ukraine.

That's right.

It has felt really like a whiplash and a big betrayal.

I am so glad that you are mentioning that and saying so plainly that this is Russia's war against Ukraine, that Ukraine was invaded and with the

conversations that are happening right now with the narrative that we're hearing increasingly it does seem like this is from Russia's playbook which is just so surreal and extremely disheartening also frightening because this is not just some kind of political discourse we're having just about you know something that doesn't make an impact these are people's lives that we're talking about thousands and thousands of civilians that millions really who are

Ponds right now in this situation where I hope that our officials are simply uninformed.

I don't want to imply anything with intent, but it has been really difficult to see that Russia's rhetoric, the narratives that are clearly Russian propaganda have been stewed will nearly as if it's the reality where indeed

Ukraine has been invaded by Russia, and I really don't want for anybody to forget what has been going on when the full-scale invasion just started, where we saw Buche, and it's still happening.

Just hours after the latest talks, well, not the baby latest, but the ceasefire agreement with the infrastructure deal, Russia completely

disregarded that and there were so many attacks on Ukrainian civilian facilities, hospitals and energy facilities right after they said that they wouldn't do that.

But most importantly, I just want to remind our listeners about all of the atrocities that Russia created with the torch.

and abductions of children.

Thousands of children have been abducted from Ukraine.

And of course, with the deaths of civilians, what we saw with the visceral images from Buchan, this is happening, this continuous happening.

It's amazing to me that anyone would take Vladimir Putin at his word.

Vladimir Putin is not a trusted source.

This is not an honest, trustworthy...

Man, he's just not.

So I can't imagine what it's like for you to hear.

Vladimir Putin said this and they're not, you know, we have this agreement and it's all going to be fine.

And the next day he goes and breaks it anyway.

This is pretty much par for the course when you are dealing with Vladimir Putin.

Exactly.

With very conservative estimates, recently, President Zelensky mentioned that

There were cases of Vladimir Putin breaking ceasefire agreements since the military action started since 2014.

And this is a vague estimate.

Of course, there are so many more cases not just related to Ukraine.

I think that's another thing that gets lost in this.

really upside down narrative that this is not just about Ukraine.

Russia has been exercising imperialistic intent towards other nations for quite a while.

This is something that's a part of how the current regime functions.

And this is not just some kind of quarrel or a conflict.

I'm putting in quotes for our listeners in the video.

between Ukraine and Russia.

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Ukraine is defending itself right now.

Ukrainians are fighting for their survival now.

Well, and that's the thing that I've been saying that just escapes me, especially, you know, the the the MO of America is freedom.

That's the thing we talk about all the time.

Specifically with this administration, they talk about the star-spangling freedom of all freedoms that's freedoming and they just can't stop talking about freedom.

And to me,

Ukraine is a country doing exactly what we tried what we did hundreds of years ago to defend ourselves against an aggressor We fought for our freedom.

That is what Ukraine is doing and to even broach the topic that Russia should be given sympathy or at the very least Well, we don't know all the information and and and and we don't know what Zelensky is doing Zelensky is fighting for his people and that's the American way too and to see it any other way is

It's shameful is what I think it is.

Thank you for bringing that up.

I think it is an important point that this is about values here too.

What do we stand for?

And I would like to remind our listeners that

way back in 1994, which while it seems a while ago, I want to think that I live in a country that keeps its promises.

The United States was a part of the three nations that assured Ukraine that if Ukraine gives up its nuclear weapons to Russia that Russia, United Kingdom and the United States would protect Ukraine against anybody who encroaches on sovereignty.

So right now to act as if

United States has nothing to do with securing Ukraine's lasting peace is just really preposterous and feels like such a betrayal.

But absolutely what Ukraine is doing right now fighting for its survival is also standing for democracy and global peace.

I

think Ukraine's defending itself and standing against the tyranny, standing against

Russia just trying to change the world map.

However, Putin wants is the epitome of what America that I naturalized into stands

for.

This is

about American values, what Ukraine is doing right now.

We used to be the defenders of democracy around the world.

And we used to be the place that was encouraging democracies around the world.

And apparently that's not a responsibility anymore.

I want to talk Karina.

Karina Tweedel is our guest, by the way.

She's a board member of Wisconsin, Ukrainians.

And I want to talk more about the children that were abducted by the Russians.

And we did have a program in place, at least under the Biden administration, that was trying to find these kids and reunite them with their parents.

I believe the Trump administration has now done away with that.

So we have just kind of given up, we've just kind of given up on these kids and now they're going to be raised as Russians.

And it's something that's very emotional to me.

It's honestly difficult to talk about it, but Doge has recently defunded the Yale institution that has kept track of those abducted Ukrainian children.

And a lot of Ukraine NGOs, national government organizations, were using their data in order to find those kids and return them, reunite them with their families.

So it's extremely distressing.

And we're talking about over 19,000 kids and most likely more, but these are the official figures that we have.

Why?

And I think this also plays into the whole.

the desire of Russia to erase Ukraine and erase Ukrainian identity.

This is this is one way to do that.

We take their children and we tell them they're Russian and you are, you know, and it's just another way to disappear Ukraine and Ukrainians.

We're going to continue our conversation with Karina Tweedel, a board member of Wisconsin, Ukrainians.

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She's a board member of Wisconsin-Ukrainians.

Wisconsin-Ukrainians.

founded in 2022, supporting Ukrainian defenders by providing medical supplies, tactical gear, thermal wear generators, food supplies, and much, much more so far.

This organization has already allocated over $665,000, which is not a small amount of money.

Karina Tweedel, continuing our conversation.

Karina, there has been some...

criticisms, I guess, before Volodymyr Zelensky was elected president, as far as whether or not the government of Ukraine was on the up and up.

And it's my understanding that Zelensky was elected in order to take some of that on and kind of make it a better, cleaner kind of government.

Is that accurate or am I, or am I wrong?

No, I think even just you speaking about the changes that have been going on within the Ukrainian government is a testament to Ukraine's people speaking up and wanting change and wanting just government where they're able to prosper and express themselves.

I think that's a good sign that while it's not

pleasant to live through different changes.

I think that really shows how Ukraine is just becoming more and more democratic.

And sometimes you might hear some Russian propaganda about the blatant corruption that's happening, which Ukraine has done.

So much work to make sure that the especially the monies that have been coming for support of Ukrainian defenders the America's contributions have been they heavily Kind of like investigated just to make sure that things go where they're supposed to go.

So I think

the political situation within Ukraine is just getting better and better.

And it's really encouraging to see how the people feel like their voice does matter based on their actions.

And I think it's something that we should remember as well here in America.

It's so easy to get discouraged right now.

And part of what our organization does is bring people together.

And we're welcoming of anybody.

You don't have to be Ukrainian to participate in our events.

Once again, Wisconsin-Ukrainian Inc.

is the name of our organization.

And I feel like anybody who believes in freedom and justice is absolutely welcome to join our...

Rose and something that we do is empower people to know that their voice has a difference in policy that we are not going to just stand by and see our world crush.

We encourage everybody to reach out to their elected officials and we even train if somebody has never done that, I or lots of members of our organization would be willing to help them to reach out to their congresspeople and share that what our administration is doing does not represent

all Americans, and that we stand for justice, we stand for democracy and freedom all over the world.

What kinds of things are you hearing from people in Wisconsin?

Karina, I'm curious.

Were you asking about Ukrainians or just general population?

Just

general population of Wisconsin.

What kind of reception have you gotten from Wisconsinites?

Oh, sure.

You know, we've been really fortunate to hear so many encouraging words, especially after the just extremely difficult interview between President Zelensky and President Trump.

We've received so many words of support saying that, you know, that particular interview does not represent what Americans feel.

And it's been great to hear words of support.

I just want to encourage our listeners

to not only speak on their social media outlets, but also reach out to their elected officials.

But I am extremely grateful and I know all of our community members from Ukraine are just beyond grateful for hearing.

this overwhelming support that we've received after especially some instances where it seems that our administration, U.S.

administration has not been acting in Ukraine's or really U.S.

interests.

Yeah, the meeting between the presidents and the vice president was one where I wanted to, like, I'm glad you're hearing that because for me, I know that I don't have a line presence to President Zelensky, but I just want to be like, I'm sorry, that's not us.

We believe in you and what you are fighting for with your people.

So thank you so much for being here today, Karina.

Karina, we're going to put your organization's website link in our show notes after the show is over.

Other than financial support, what can folks do if they want to get involved real quickly?

You're welcome to go on our website.

We have a lot of events where we are trying to spread Ukrainian culture.

As you mentioned earlier, there's an attack on Ukrainian culture right now.

Ukrainian people are trying to be eradicated by Russia.

So by being interested in Ukrainian culture, this is definitely a way to resist.

And feel free to look us up at Wisconsin-Ukrainian's Inc.

And we are happy to have anybody at our events who just had

on egg decorating event happened just this past weekend.

So everybody's welcome to join.

Karina Tweedal with, as a board member with Wisconsin, Ukrainians again.

We will get that link in our show notes.

Karina, thank you so very much.

Thank you so much.

For your time.

Really appreciate it.

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This is the portion of the program that we like to call Audio Sorbet.

Cherub Angels.

We do.

Try to lighten things up a little bit and I wanted to share.

We got the nicest email from Todd last week.

Yeah.

Just saying how much he enjoys Audio Sorbet gives us all a chance to take a breath.

We know there's a lot of really important frightening disturbing things going on and we do spend a lot of time on this show Talking about those things, but we've all discussed this and agreed.

We all need a chance to take a breath Maybe get a couple laps.

It's good for you.

Yes, and there have been some people who have said it

We need to talk about the stuff we need.

And we do.

And we do.

And we do.

Every day we talk about it for anywhere from 60 to 90 minutes a day.

And I don't mean to sound like a jerk here, but it's your show, Jane.

And if we're going to, if we're going to keep it, and you want to keep it light in the last half hour, we got to laugh because however long he's in office, however long this goes on, you will laugh.

You will laugh with friends.

You will laugh with family.

You will laugh.

I hope so.

So let's laugh together.