YOU’RE FIRED, wait…REHIRED!! (Hour 1)

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YOU’RE FIRED, wait…REHIRED!! (Hour 1)

Matenaer on Air · Mon Mar 24, 2025

Greg Bach (Host)

Good, good morning, everyone.

Welcome to Matt and air on air.

My name is Greg Bach filling in for Jane, Matt and air who will be returning tomorrow.

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Finally.

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And you also have sweet Calbee on the boards.

Calvin, how you doing?

You know, not too bad.

All things considered.

There you go.

All right.

And we also have today our special guest, our

totally awesome co-host for the morning.

She's here all two hours of matinee on air.

Put your hands together for executive director of black leaders, organizing communities, Miss Angela Lang.

Angela Lang (Co-Host)

Oh,

Greg Bach (Host)

thanks for

Angela Lang (Co-Host)

having me.

Oh,

Greg Bach (Host)

you got ovations.

Uh, before we go any further, just wanted to real quick here.

Uh, as always, we do it.

Average price of a gallon of regular milk in Wisconsin three 17.

No change from Friday.

Average price of a dozen eggs.

Five 61.

No change since Friday as well.

When I went, I will immediately bring prices down starting on day one.

Day one, Angela.

Day one.

Day.

What?

Not one.

Day 70.

I don't

Angela Lang (Co-Host)

know.

Greg Bach (Host)

Too many days.

Too many days.

10 weeks feels like, feels like two and a half months.

All right.

Now we're in a couple of things before we get started today.

We got a pack show for you.

We got, we got Angela here for the whole show.

We're going to be talking about firing yet rehiring.

We're going to be talking about Brad Schimel and Elon Musk bucks coming through again, but we also have a 10 30 very special guest.

Wisconsin state representative Darren Madison.

He is rep of the 10th district, which is Milwaukee.

He'll be here talking to us about what he's working on right now, including a town hall meeting.

I know it's a scary term nowadays for representation for people who are, who are elected officials, but he is having a town hall this evening, I believe, about criminal justice, criminal, uh, and, uh, what was it again?

Angela Lang (Co-Host)

It was unlocking the justice system, I believe, but there's a panel that he's on with a bunch of folks happening this evening to talk about local legislation and criminal justice stuff.

Greg Bach (Host)

Perfect.

He will be joining us at 10 33 this morning.

So do not miss that.

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So we got other things we're gonna be talking about.

Let's start the morning with some news that is affecting Wisconsin.

And that is, you're hired, you're fired.

You're re-hired again.

The Trump administration has fired a great many people, and the judges now are coming into the courts saying, nope, you can't do that.

You're sidestepping processes.

You're unconstitutional.

And this is actually having an effect on Wisconsin people, too, because of the 18,000 federal workers, I'm sorry, of the...

individuals who are fired, 18,000 are federal workers here in Wisconsin, close to 3,000 are probationary.

And while I've personally never been in a situation, Angelo, where I've been fired and then rehired,

Angela Lang (Co-Host)

this

Greg Bach (Host)

does not, this is not a place you want to be at because as it says in the article, the article, by the way, um, written by Madeline Heim, Natalie Ilebert, Mary Spacuza, and Caitlin Lobi, uh, it basically says,

that now that federal judges from California and Maryland have ordered the Trump administration to rehire these employees, many are in certain footing, returning to work, but are fearful for the future cuts or rehired, but placed on administrative leave.

So basically they don't know where they stand.

And limbo.

Yeah.

And these folks just want to work.

Angela Lang (Co-Host)

Yeah.

It's, it's one, it's like, it's playing with people's livelihoods, right?

Like I couldn't.

imagine right and especially knowing you know when you're about to get let go or fired like you you can kind of be like I not like you saw it coming but you understand maybe the things that led up to it right performance.

et cetera, but like this, it's been so sudden and it seems so kind of just arbitrary.

They're taking literally a chainsaw,

Greg Bach (Host)

you

Angela Lang (Co-Host)

know, I'm off taking a chainsaw to these various services and cutting jobs and letting people go.

But not only is it just letting people go and those individuals now having to figure out how to make ends meet.

But then when you are shaking up whole departments in these systems, that also affects the amount of care that folks can provide.

And I think of folks at the VA.

So it's like you're not only letting individuals go and people.

that we're working on now suddenly have to make ends meet.

But now you have veterans who's like services are being cut because positions in people have been eliminated and all of that.

And what I've heard too is trying to get back, you know, to order is also just going to take a while.

It's very quick to let someone go, but to actually get things on the workload back to where it needs to be.

People have said that they're set back years now at this point.

Greg Bach (Host)

Well, I'm glad you brought up the VA because I was going to mention that the that the employees that have been laid off in Wisconsin come from the medical centers for veterans and

Madison, Milwaukee, and Tomah, a U.S.

Geological Survey Science Center in La Crosse, U.S.

Department of Agriculture, and the U.S.

Forest Service, and the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration, AKA NOAA, those are all here in Wisconsin as well, and they're all being let go.

And the thing you just said, too, is you have two, regardless of the two roads.

If you fire a bunch of people, then what happens is, and we've all seen this, and we've all been a part of this where, you know, we've let go four people.

Well, are we gonna get raises or this?

No, in fact, what's gonna happen is you're gonna take on their workload with no title bump, with no raise, with nothing at all, and you have to get productivity back to where we were on Friday when we let them go.

Or, or, you fire a bunch of people.

And then you rehire them and you have to onboard them all again.

You have to go through all of the levels.

And granted, if they were fired a month ago, they probably don't need new training, but there will probably be some mandatory training they have to go through.

Yeah, because it's a government job, of course.

And so to me, it just, we've been, well, we've been saying it, but he's also shown it at CPAP, you know, the big,

overcompensating chainsaw.

This is not how you do things.

You don't run a business like this.

And personally too, you don't run the government like a business.

You just don't.

That's just not how it works.

But there are a bunch of people out there who say, yeah, this seems like a really good idea.

No, it's not.

This is what's happening now.

Angela Lang (Co-Host)

But eggs, we're supposed to be free, right?

We're supposed to have free eggs.

And the whole thing is we're making

government more efficient.

We're getting rid of waste.

And it's like, you're cutting people's livelihoods, families, right?

Probably summer vacations and trips that people are trying to pay for, for their families and all sorts of things that are being cut and that are now just being plucked out and now in this very chaotic mess.

And I, and it's, I'm not saying it's being breezed over, but it feels like it's being breezed over by the administration.

Like they're not talking about the human

side of it.

It's just like, of

Greg Bach (Host)

course

Angela Lang (Co-Host)

not.

And it's, it's, it's disrespectful to the people.

And these are some folks, you know, yes, there's a big chunk of folks that were on probationary status, but there are some folks that weren't on, you know, probation and have given significant time there.

And it just suddenly let go.

And they're like, Oh, yeah, well, we're working on it, you know, we're trying to figure it out.

But like,

The administration has proven time and time again that they're just plucking people from normalcy into this very chaotic state, whether it's through immigration, through people losing their jobs, or what have you.

And it's, I think, very chaotic and I think very daunting to think about all at once.

Greg Bach (Host)

I mean, yeah, if you want to run a government like a business,

I think that's just a tagline anyways, first of all, I think that's just, you know, that's something to make people feel happy about.

They're like, whoa, well, yeah, you know, Apple's a great business.

Well, you know, let's take Apple for example, when Apple does anything, do you know what they do before they make any sort of huge rollout?

They do research, they talk to people, they do testing, they do focus groups, they do all the things you need to do before you make a huge change.

And also they're gonna, and we talked to Dr. Lierly about this last week, you come at it with,

the most precise scalpel you can to make the best and most efficient cuts.

Nobody...

Nobody in this country, I believe, wants the government to be bloated and full of waste and full of spending and full of fraud.

First of all, still waiting for those fraud cases to come down.

Haven't seen any of them.

But meanwhile, on the live stream, I'm being told that we need to spend, yes, Greg, let's spend more than we take on.

That's untrue.

And I don't want to run the government like a charity.

I want to run it efficiently.

This is not efficiency because everything they're telling us so far has been

taken back has been mistakes and there are real people's lives.

So when you are flipping like this and say, well, let's just cut it, you do not care about these people's lives.

Because those vacations you talked about, Angela, those vacations do what?

Say it with me, help with the economy.

They invest in America, but instead, if they don't have jobs, they then have to go on unemployment insurance.

They then have to possibly apply for Medicaid.

Oh, that's right, you cut Medicaid.

So,

I don't know, I guess Doja's doing great work, apparently.

Show me the receipts more than a Twitter account.

That's what I would like.

Show me actual receipts from real people who know what they're doing.

Don't just fire people en masse and say, aren't we great?

Angela Lang (Co-Host)

And that's exactly...

what's happening and then you know to bring a little bit of lightness I guess depending on how you think about it I saw a clip over the weekend and it was posted multiple times so I'm pretty sure it was real it wasn't AI but like Elon was at like a dinner and he was like balancing spoons and everyone is like Elon what are you doing and it's like it just looked like a child

Greg Bach (Host)

at

Angela Lang (Co-Host)

like a grown-up function

that, like, doesn't want to be there so they start messing with the utensils.

They look

Greg Bach (Host)

like... Well, it's once again something he didn't invent, but he's doing it.

People are like, he's a genius.

But we're gonna keep the conversation going on the other side of the break.

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Greg Bach (host)

Good, good morning.

Welcome back to Matt and air on air.

My name is Greg Bach sitting in for Jane Matt and air who is on vacation.

We're turning tomorrow and we got Cal B on the boards.

We got Angela Lang, the executive director of black live black leaders, organizing communities.

Wow.

Talking is hard sometimes on Monday, Angela.

And we were talking about before, we were talking about the Trump administration getting, so the Trump administration has slashed a bunch of jobs through Doge who, according to the live stream, Doge is doing great work, still waiting for the proof on that, but you go ahead and say words, words can happen anytime you want.

But,

federal judges, and we talked about this with Jim Santel last week, have been stepping up and actually protecting the constitution saying, no, you can't do these things.

They are sidestepping processes.

They are unconstitutional on their face.

And you need to restore these individuals back to their jobs.

Well, just after that story broke this morning about the Wisconsin, uh, from the, from the Milwaukee Journal of Sentinel about those in Wisconsin who are being fired and rehired.

The Trump administration wants to go right to the Supreme Court to halt these judges' decisions.

Because they're saying, you don't have the power to do this.

Well, last time I checked, federal judges have the power to uphold and protect the Constitution if they see it being threatened.

And that's what they do.

So, I don't know.

But also,

This just broke.

This just came across my phone, Angela.

Trump says any country buying Venezuelan oil will face a 25% tariff.

You need a

Angela Lang (co-host)

moment.

What is with him in these tariffs?

And everyone is saying these are terrible ideas.

You have, you know, Justin Trudeau, you have everyone saying that these are bad ideas.

And he's just like...

Let's just roll with it.

I feel like this whole administration has just run on vibes.

Greg Bach (host)

Well, you know what?

You're not wrong.

I don't think you're wrong at all.

And I

Angela Lang (co-host)

don't say that in a good way, but then it's not to minimize the terrible harm and impact.

I don't say that flippantly, but like they're pushing more, you know, unconventional standards and pushing our society in ways that haven't really been stretched in a long time.

Greg Bach (host)

Well, I don't but I don't think you're wrong.

I think there this whole thing this whole existence in the political realm since the golden escalator of 2015 has been vibes has been Has been setting off the mood of certain individuals who feel left out or looked over and you know what those individuals have a legitimate gripe to a certain extent and I we can talk all day long about how some of them weren't listened to and they were told certain things and they got angry and I get that and I would

Love to have a conversation with those individuals, but the vibe now is and it happens almost every time because we've seen it Back and forth with the tariffs is I'm gonna put a tariff on Canada and and China Last second.

Yeah, we're gonna hold off for a month.

I'm gonna put a tariff on Canada Let's wait a month.

It's everything he can do everything the Trump brand as far as politics can go

to appease to his base, to appease to his fans, and to make them like him.

And they always love him, regardless.

They always love him.

But the moment it comes to actually doing the work and seeing that it could cause harm or the long run outcome, which by the way, Dr. Lairly and I talked about this last week as well, these tariffs are gonna have a really horrible effect on Wisconsin specifically.

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Yeah.

Greg Bach (host)

He doesn't want to see backlash of that.

So he sees the long term.

Oh, they might not like me in the long term So let's just hold back and and and I personally think he loves it when these judges strike down because he can say I tried Exactly I tried and and those those activists judges didn't let me have my way and they don't love America So I'm gonna talk to I'm gonna talk to my four friends at the court the highest court and see if that Roberts guy will help

Angela Lang (co-host)

out me

It's a classic playbook that he does all the time and you know, I'm thinking about how there's like no accountability as Well, you know as you keep saying like show us the receipts.

Yeah, you know eggs were basically supposed to be free things were supposed to be good on day one and like they're not right and this is like Objectively true whether it has touched your life or not yet.

It is going to at some point in the fact that you don't have you know

I'm not even going to call them, you know, these glorified YouTube live streamers on Fox because they're not journalists.

Like why are we not calling the question on this?

Like why are we saying like, Hey, you know, you say you're going to do these things on day one.

Do you think that that was a big promise?

Do you think you oversold that?

Like we're not, this isn't a debate.

Like things are rough right now.

And the fact that there's no accountability is also how we got here.

Greg Bach (host)

This

Angela Lang (co-host)

is like unchecked power to the extreme.

Greg Bach (host)

Yeah.

I don't think that.

Major networks want to have that talk because those major networks are owned by corporations and they're held by shareholders and those shareholders like their money.

And while I disagree with it, I understand it.

I enjoy money as well.

But it's up to us and up to you listening right now to share your knowledge and talk about how this makes you.

All those individuals who call us up and you can call us up and talk to us, whatever you want about it, whether you agree or disagree.

Yeah, but bring something to the conversation.

If you disagree, that's all I ask.

It's up to us to share what we know.

And we have things like the April 1 election coming up, which is very, very important.

I know we say it's the most important.

I won't call it the most important.

I'll just say it's one in a many very important elections we've had in the past few years.

We have the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which is trying to be won by a billionaire.

And that billionaire, by the way, is Elon Musk.

And we have a...

Department of Public Instruction, who someone who has never held a teaching license in Wisconsin wants to bring a full-throated support of private, I'm sorry, not private charter and school vouchers to Wisconsin as well, which is just supporting two school systems and does not have a sustainable model in mind.

Angela Lang (co-host)

Your priority as DPI should be public schools, hard stop period.

Greg Bach (host)

Yep.

And we will be talking more and more about actually we'll be talking about, we'll be talking about Brett Schimel in the second hour.

But if you have any questions on what's going on with your ballot, what's going on where you vote, you're going to go, excuse me, you're going to go to my vote.wi.gov for more information on that.

You can find your ballot, where you vote, who's representing you and whether or not you are registered.

Angela Lang (co-host)

And a referendum question

Greg Bach (host)

as well

Angela Lang (co-host)

on there and your polling place.

Greg Bach (host)

Exactly.

A very, very good place to go.

My vote dot w i dot gov.

When we come back, state representative Darren Madison will be joining us to talk about his town hall.

He's holding the town hall and you can show up and you can talk to him.

He's not afraid.

All right.

Don't go anywhere.

You're listening to Matt, Matt in there on air with Angela Lang is my co-host today.

You are listening to the Civic Media Radio Network.

Stay close.

Calvin (producer)

Good morning.

Greg Box (host)

Welcome back to Matt and air on air.

My name is Greg box.

Sitting in for Jane, Matt and air who is on vacation until tomorrow.

Thank you.

I'm a camera's on.

All right.

Uh,

Welcome back to Madden air and air.

My name is Greg box sitting in for Jane Madden air who will be returning on Tuesday tomorrow We had sweet Cal be behind the boards.

We've got Angela Lang as my guest co-host for the day We have Kendrick Lamar as the bomber because you can never stop listening that song I can't stop listening that song and also We spoke about it before but it is the election coming up a week from tomorrow Be a voter make a plan get out there

Find friends, talk to your friends, share what you know.

Myvote.wi.gov for all the information you need to do that.

Um,

Angela Lang (guest co-host)

block is going to early vote as a team tomorrow at the midtown location or the capital drive location.

I should stop calling it midtown.

Greg Box (host)

Angela Lang.

What does block tell us more about that?

Angela Lang (guest co-host)

Block stands for black leaders organizing for communities and we are a year round civic engagement organization.

So we will still be knocking doors post April to talk to the community and educate and get folks involved in local actions that are happening.

And we have a team of ambassadors who are basically canvassers on.

steroids who are knocking and engaging the community all year long through our things like community meetings and community cleanups and various events we have throughout the

Greg Box (host)

year.

Excellent.

Awesome.

So my vote.wi.gov, you can go, I will, I will have the, the link to block on the show notes for today as well.

If you want to be helping out, if you want to help out with that group as well, I mean it's, we need you to get out there.

We need you to talk to your friends.

This is a very, it's not a sexy election, friends.

This is a spring election, but there's a lot on the ballot that's important to everyone here in the state and it affects everyone.

So, myvote.wi.gov.

Angela, you have a guest with you today.

Tell us about our new friend.

Angela Lang (guest co-host)

Yeah, so state representative, Darren Madison, that's the only time I'll call him state rep because he is like honestly a little brother to me.

um and it's one of those scenarios where like the student becomes the teacher and I am so proud of the work that he's done um and how he continues to engage as an elected official and side note I saw um a post the other day from former state rep David Bowen and a picture of you all from like 13 years ago and I was doing the math on it and I was like yeah no we've known Darren for quite some time who was like a a little brother um that we feel we've been able to kind of watch grow up so um when things

of like guests and whatnot.

I had just run across a post about how Darren is going to be participating in a town hall this evening.

And I thought it would be a really good opportunity to talk about that and to talk about his work as well.

So let's start with the town hall tonight, what it's about.

What are your goals?

What are you hoping to get out of it?

Darren Madison (guest)

Yeah, absolutely.

It's twofold, right?

One, we are, we finally got an audit of the county jail, which

for advocates have been trying to get done for for years as folks have died in our in our local prisons.

One person for every year over the past 12 years and a lot of these deaths are preventable.

So folks are folks are trying to get a sense of you know based off our already bloated shares budget.

In other efforts, how are we actually ensuring that folks who are going through rehabilitation in our prison system are actually kept safe and actually having the opportunity to return to their communities.

And then two, I'm in the space to specifically talk about what's been happening at the state as it relates to the criminal legal system.

We just had these seven bills that just passed through the legislature that increase criminal penalties and increase the reach of our criminal legal system in ways that don't actually keep folks safe.

We already are 5,000 people over capacity in our state prison system, and this will add to that number.

make court cases harder.

Well then,

Angela Lang (guest co-host)

so quite a few things happening.

Appreciate you being able to break some of that down to you.

And one of the follow-ups I was going to say is like, how does this connect to the legislature?

And you broke that down very easily.

Can you talk a little bit and say whatever you would like?

I'm not trying to put you in a weird position.

But I do know a few weeks ago that the sheriff held also a similar type of town hall.

And there's been a lot of organizations and activists, myself included, who either weren't able to go or had said this time is not accessible and asked

the sheriff to kind of change to a different time.

And so why did you feel like it was important to have this kind of town hall, you know, just a few weeks after the original one?

Darren Madison (guest)

Yeah, absolutely.

And I didn't have the luxury of being at that town hall either.

Often people love to host town halls at times that are inaccessible to community.

You know, and this is another example of that, not our town hall, the other one.

is another example of that where it's often at a time where folks are still at work, often very short notice, and doesn't provide enough opportunities for community members to voice their thoughts and opinions.

Our county sheriffs have not hosted town halls in years, and this is before our current county sheriff.

I do appreciate that she hosted a town hall.

People have been making that request for a long time now.

I don't appreciate that it was only one and that it only, again, it was at a time that was inaccessible.

How that relates to this town hall is because our county shares are responsible for one of our jails and we've been asking them to do an audit as well of their own budget.

as it continues to put the county in a bad position financially.

And then also because, again, every time someone dies in one of these facilities, the sheriff doesn't give a real explanation to what's happening.

what could have prevented it and how they will change their practices and procedures to ensure folks are safe.

What folks want in community is transparency.

What folks want in community is reassurance that no matter what, what someone does, when they commit a crime, it should not be a death sentence.

It should be accountability.

Angela Lang (guest co-host)

Yeah.

Darren Madison (guest)

I appreciate

Greg Box (host)

that.

And not, and not to, you know, I'm, this is not a smarmy comment, but I feel like right now in politics and in the face of Doge and now the newly formed, I can't believe I'm going to say this.

I like goat out of Madison.

They're all about audit.

They're all about efficiency.

They're all about, but yet here you come with a request.

Hey, we need an audit of your department and you're getting pushback.

It's a, you know, all good for the, but not for me.

type of situation.

Darren Madison (guest)

Yep.

Oh, legit.

I don't even like talking about dope.

Greg Box (host)

You don't have to either.

I'm sorry I said it.

I didn't like saying that.

Darren Madison (guest)

I mean, I'm not on that committee.

But I heard Shae Sorwell talking about how he got pins for all of the members on that committee.

He also, you know, submitted this audit without

Without even consulting all members on that committee for municipalities and counties to tell folks how they're implementing the EI programs.

If you want to talk about efficiency, look at some of the state departments.

We should not be hampering local control in that way.

I trust local leaders to handle local government.

And it's our responsibility as legislators to be looking at efficiencies in our own state government.

And there are things that can be fixed, but that doesn't mean just simply eliminating programs and initiatives, which that's what DOGE is doing at the federal level.

And I hope GOAT doesn't...

function in that same trend.

Greg Box (host)

If you're just tuning in, you are joining us on Matt Naranair with our guest, Darren Madsen, who is the representative for the 10th assembly district of Milwaukee.

And we're just talking about a town hall meeting that will be held tonight.

And it seems, Darren, you are not afraid of town halls, which is great.

A lot of other elected officials seem to be nervous about holding town halls, but it's good to see someone who is voted in by the people who says, you know what?

Let's talk to the people because that's who we work for.

Um, something you just mentioned though about the whole efficiency thing is the, the GOP has long since this, as long as I was a little kid and I'm old was the party of.

You know, less control, less government.

Keep your hands off the local people because they can do it best.

We don't need more government.

And here is, uh, Madison coming in saying, mm, but you need our help.

We need to, you're not doing it the way we like it.

So we're going to step in and we're going to exert some control, even though we hate government.

We're going to govern over various municipalities and counties.

It's just, that's an observation.

I don't, you know, what do I know?

I just have a political science degree.

Darren Madison (guest)

No, you're spitting, you're spitting Greg.

I mean, honestly, um, constantly, you know, where I, you find often throughout the session in last session, um, when bills like the, like, um, these have come up, um, the common argument that, um, we use on my side of the aisle is that like it is these bills usurp local control.

I mean, at the end of the day, we're all elected by the people, and we have responsibilities, right?

It is not the role of state government to be local government or county government, right?

Calvin (producer)

Or

Darren Madison (guest)

school boards, right?

And we are consistently overreaching by setting mandates by not actually giving local municipalities, counties, and school boards.

the resources that they need to be effective.

And then when something wrong happens, we point the finger and we say, oh, why didn't you do this?

Why didn't you provide busing for all the students?

Why didn't you ensure there was no lead in water in our schools?

Why didn't you ensure there's public safety measures in our communities while we're also not giving, we're not giving any of these

these local bodies, the resources that they need to be affected.

The GOP loves to talk about how they are about small government and about being about efficiencies in a lot of ways.

As a socialist, I often talk about how I'm about efficient government.

If we have programs and we have models that we want to implement, we should be staffing those things to

um, a some sufficient, um, standard, right?

Um, but we're not doing that.

We're not doing that.

And then we, and then we say, look, look, this is how, this is how, you know, our government is failing us pointing the finger where it should be pointed, which is often at the legislature.

Greg Box (host)

I mean, that's, I mean,

I once again, I'm not going to disagree with what you're saying.

And we're going to keep the conversation going on the other side of the break because I want to talk about some things you just brought up, which were, you know, there's money sitting in the general, in the funds that are going to be, that can fund clean water initiatives and school initiatives and, and things like that.

And, and while the important work of the government, things like access to healthcare and, and affordable childcare is going unnoticed,

We're talking about enshrining voter ID into the Constitution.

I want to talk more about some of the more important issues that you have to deal with there.

And when we come back on the other side of the break, but you were listening to Matt Nair on air, our guest right now is Representative Darren Madison from the 10th District here in Wisconsin.

I've got my co-host, Angela Lange, hear the entire show and Calvin behind the boards.

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Calvin (producer)

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Greg Bach (host)

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Welcome back to mountain air on air.

My name is Greg Bach sitting in the big chair for Jane who will be returning tomorrow from her well-deserved vacation.

Also got sweet Kelby, Calvin, teeny behind the boards.

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And she brought a friend, a new friend of the show, representative Darren Madison, the state representative of the 10th district of.

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We're back talking to.

I was told to call him Darren from this point because he does not like being called representative Madison, although

Darren Madison (guest)

man of the people,

Greg Bach (host)

I mean, man of the people, Darren Madison.

You were talking earlier in the previous segment about, you know, the fact that we have now a Republican, we've had one for a while, but now they're on the whole doge bandwagon with their own goat, which come on, dude.

They want to, they want to identify these things they believe are very important problems to address here in Wisconsin.

And we, I've seen the polling, you've seen the polling, we know what people care about.

They care about quality water, quality education.

They, uh, they care about childcare for their kids.

They want to make sure that Wisconsin is the best day.

I mean, for some, it's about legalization of marijuana for some.

It's about access to abortion, but it seems like every time we talk about any of these issues,

Here comes Robin Voss with his friend saying, hey, you guys, you know what we need to do?

Voter ID isn't a problem, but we need to turn it into one.

So let's enshrine in the Constitution, even though there's a law in the book says he can't vote without an ID.

And also, by the way, there is zero case for voter fraud.

And just go to the Brennan Center for Justice.

They've published literally like six reports on this.

I mean, I guess, Darren, the comical question is, how do you keep sane?

But the real question is, how do you get the work done that you need to get done for your constituents in your district and make them realize these are priority concerns?

Darren Madison (guest)

Yeah, absolutely.

So, you know, the voter ID bill that'll be on...

be on your ballot as a constitutional amendment.

April 1st was literally the first bill we had to deal with this session.

Even though folks, like you said, on doors, the only conversations when I went around the state that folks talked about was housing inequities, access to food, and the price of groceries, medical.

medical issues, especially in the western part of the state, right?

Where you are dealing with the huge amount of hospital closures and medical care gaps, right?

You have folks who literally have to, you know, they go into labor, they have to drive three hours to get to a nearest hospital, which is dangerous.

And, you know, we've introduced bills that can help fill these gaps.

None of these bills I've gotten a hearing.

The only bills that we've heard

is voter ID, cell phones in schools, right?

The seven criminal penalties enhancers, several criminal penalty enhancer bills that we just have to deal with, which I will remind you, do nothing to keep people safe, right?

Like when folks commit a crime, they don't say, oh, you know, it's a class H felony.

So, you know, I'm not gonna do this, right?

Folks don't study law like that.

And then at the end of the day, it costs you as taxpayers literally hundreds and thousands of dollars to house these people for more and more years as we raise penalties.

And then we're also dealing with crazy audits like we talked about with dope.

I'm talking to my colleagues all the time.

on both sides of the aisle, as my office continues to draft bills, like cannabis legalization, like hemp regulation, as we are dealing with THC drinks that literally can be sold to anyone, and things like our healthcare and lowering the cost of prescriptions and things in that realm.

And when I talk to my colleagues across the aisle, they'll say,

Oh yeah, I really like this bill.

If it gets to the floor, yeah, I totally vote for it.

Greg Bach (host)

But they're

Darren Madison (guest)

not doing the work to help me get it to the floor.

Unless it's like, you know, I've gotten a few bills that have gotten Republican support before and have gotten them this session, like my parking bill, which I say is a public safety bill, right?

Because we should be able to trust parking structures that we go into.

in right now, they aren't required to be inspected at all post construction, but that's a whole series of things that we're working on, but it's just...

Greg Bach (host)

Yeah.

Well, Darren, I don't mean to cut you off.

We got it.

We're going to come up against a heartbreak, but I want to invite you back to the show again to talk about what you're doing because we want to listen to all the representatives and the information on the town hall will be in the show notes for tonight.

If you want to attend Darren Madison, thank you so much for being here.

Thank you so much for being our guest today.

Please come back.

Talk about the work you are doing.

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Angela, Angela, did you know there's an election coming up on April the 1st?

Angela Lang (co-host)

I think I heard something about it, something about Elon and trying to buy our Supreme Court.

Greg Bach (host)

Well, I'm, you know, I guess you heard it right because, I mean, so the candidates in the race are...

Judge Brad Schimmel of Waukesha and Judge Susan Crawford of Dane County.

They're both of Waukesha County and Dane County, respectively.

And Brad Schimmel has been running for a year and a half.

This is, and this is not, this is not, you know, this is not a dig.

He knew he was going to run.

He's been running for, and he's been running a pretty stealthy campaign, just going out there talking to people, which is important.

I give it up for anybody running for office who can make the multi-county journey around talking to people.

and also working a full-time job.

But it's not until recently that he has been saying some very, I don't want to say controversial things, because they're not in the sense of like they go along with the Trump way of thinking, because he has said he will be a conduit for the Trump agenda to Wisconsin through the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

He is a proponent.

of the 1849 criminal abortion ban.

He has said, quote, quote, there is no flaw in that ban, except for the fact that it was made in the mid 19th century when, you know, I don't even know if they were using anesthesia at that point, but you know, what do I know?

I'm not a doctor, but he's also talked about the fact that the sitting Supreme Court justices right now in Wisconsin,

maybe running their decisions on too much emotion.

Angela, I don't know if you know this.

Women, very emotional.

Very, very emotional.

Angela Lang (co-host)

You know, I love the argument of when people say, well, we can't have a woman president.

You know, they're just too emotional.

They're gonna get us into a war.

How have all the wars and conflicts started so

Greg Bach (host)

far?

We don't wanna hear that kind of truth, Angela.

But the thing is, is I believe that a Supreme Court, I believe any

judges race should be as nonpartisan as humanly possible.

I know that is impossible at this point, but as probable as it seems, it should be as nonpart, but Brad Schimel has thrown that away.

He is, he is campaigning to the right of the right.

He is saying things that are, he thinks that the J6 traders of the insurrection where they were, you know, doing traders things, trying to overthrow our election.

He thinks they couldn't have gotten a fair, a fair shot.

He thinks that Donald Trump is, is, is right in doing everything he's doing.

And I don't know why.

I mean, Angela, I know this, this is a naive question, but how does that, how does that sort of mentality peak your interest as a voter?

If you're trying to keep Wisconsin a balanced place to live, other than you don't care if it's balanced, you want your way.

Angela Lang (co-host)

Yeah.

It's a big question.

I think what's frustrating and what I've said before is that all Wisconsinites, no matter what side of the aisle you're on, should be upset that this out-of-state billionaire who is a member of the Trump administration and is actively shredding the Constitution or taking a chainsaw to it,

is trying to buy our state's highest courts, knowing that he has a lawsuit that potentially could go in front of it.

And I think that shouldn't be partisan, right?

This is a decision that Wisconsinites ourselves, who are born here, raised here, moved here, raised kids here, all of these things.

This is our choice to make, not someone who's a member of the Trump administration, because their big argument that they love to say is like,

Well, that's a state issue.

Well, you know, that should just be decided by the states, knowing that the states that decided usually goes to the Supreme Court.

So you're actually trying to buy that decision basically preemptively and basically having a through line to implement the Trump agenda through our state's highest courts.

And like that is wild to me.

Greg Bach (host)

And, you know, we've seen through the last market university poll that came out about some of the things that.

Wisconsinites agree upon and concern them and when they know that the question should should abortion be accessible 60% plus usually are saying yes Should marijuana be legal 78% I believe or more Wisconsinites the people not the elected officials not the judges nobody who's running a race or has a yard sign the people of Wisconsin generally have the same

ideas on what should be happening in Wisconsin.

We, you know, we should have great schools.

We should have access to, you know, when we're the only state that doesn't have some form of legal marijuana, Iowa has a form of legal marijuana, but we don't.

When, when women have to face the, you know, we had, we had a woman a couple of weeks ago who because of the current state of abortion access here in Wisconsin went into sepsis.

or do you have to go to another state?

All those, we come together and say, no, these should be accessible.

We need to make a great state.

Our legislators do not act like that.

They vote out of interest of the people.

And what Brad Schimel is doing is, in my opinion, even though he has said in a campaign ad that he will listen to the people and vote on these, and rule on these topics, I do not believe him for one moment.

He has also said that the people should hold a referendum on abortion.

That's not how Wisconsin votes on laws, either.

And the fact that he doesn't know that, remember that, or he's playing naive or dumb, doesn't make me feel confident in his candidacy.

Angela Lang (co-host)

I mean, I think also going back to the referendum that's on the ballot, I think a lot of folks see the tactic for what it is because people are like, well, if it's already a law, why do we need to put it into a constitutional referendum?

And people know it's a tactic to try and boost turnout for the Supreme Court race.

So Brad Schimmel is using that to his advantage.

And I found it very interesting because I watched the debate.

Um, and asked about the amendment and how they will be voting.

Um, judge Crawford said, you know, listen, um, this could potentially go in front of the Supreme court.

So I don't feel comfortable answering, but what I will say is that like, here's my track record of how I feel about the issue.

Right.

So it's like, okay, get it.

And Brad Schimmel notably was like, I'm voting yes on this amendment.

Hard stop period.

Um, and it's like, again, you know, she said why she wouldn't say so publicly.

And so for him to latch onto that and said, yeah, I'm voting yes for all.

all of these things.

Like again, it just felt a little inappropriate for a judicial candidate to talk about potential cases that could have a very real possibility of going in front of them if elected.

Or maybe what I heard was Brad Schimmel doesn't think he's going to be elected.

So he's going to publicly say his answer because he doesn't have to deal with that conflict.

Greg Bach (host)

Well, and that brings a very important thing that I've mentioned many times because I just want to bring I want to keep that stage set for total and utter hypocrisy that will happen in the next if Brad Schimmel wins.

Angela Lang (co-host)

Yep.

Greg Bach (host)

Two years ago, now Justice Janet Pro Saywich said that the maps were rigged and the right lost their minds.

They couldn't stop talking about recusal.

They couldn't shut up about recusal.

She's got to recuse herself because she said that they were rigged.

Oh my gosh, she'll never give a clean verdict.

She'll never give a clean decision.

This is rigged.

Susan Crawford has played the game of running for judge.

She has said what she needs to say.

Brad Schimel has just basically said exactly what he stands for what he thinks on all these topics Do you think do you think he or the GOP?

Do you think he will recuse himself or the GOP will call for it?

No, they will not they'll be like It's fine.

What did he say wrong?

He's he's speaking his mind when yeah, when is it when is it a bad thing in America when you can't speak your mind?

So

Jack from Merrimack, I see you on the line.

We're going to take your call on the other side of the break.

We're going to keep this discussion going with something that Angela brought up earlier in the segment, which is, uh, Elon Musk bucks are back in our election.

He's back baby.

And he wants to buy a seat on the Supreme court, just like Trump daddy.

All right.

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Greg Box (host)

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Welcome back to Matt and air on air.

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Today during the Dom Salvia show, but We when last left you we were talking about

Brad Shimmel being very forthright with his opinions during an election for a job that's supposed to be nonpartisan and just How the tables have kind of turned of course it just seems like there's always a double standard when it comes to this matter when Judge Protoss say which set justice I should say excuse me justice protoss say which said

that she believed the maps were rigged.

You thought GOP central in Wisconsin had like a gasket blown.

They couldn't stop talking about it.

But there's no, there's no problem with the other side.

Now that Brad Shimmel is speaking extensively on the issues that may come before the court.

And one of the biggest problems with that too is Elon Musk is giving tens, I believe at $15 million for this election.

And now he is,

He's offering a hundred dollars to anyone who will pledge to To not vote for activist judges who I believe it was I think it was if I'm not mistaken this morning during During patch show Alicia Saunders said something the effect of you're right.

I will not vote for activist judges I will vote for Susan Crawford in April.

So Yeah, we got a couple calls on the line Jack from Merrimack.

You're on the line.

What say you my friend?

Jack from Merrimack (caller)

Thanks for taking my call.

Yeah, that $100 from Musk.

I'm still waiting for my money from George Soros from the three town halls that I went to.

I'm not so sure I really trust that.

So, Musk has put in something like $15 million.

Now, he's a billionaire, and billionaires don't become billionaires by just throwing their money around.

He would expect to get something for it.

Now, we get a lot of, but what about his and what about George Soros?

Well, just for example, Schimel has stated

clearly and unequivocally, he wants to get in to support the Trump Musk agenda that

Angela Lang (guest co-host)

he

Jack from Merrimack (caller)

stated that.

And not only that, what's Musk going to get directly out of this?

Well, Musk actually will probably have a case before the court because he's suing to have his Tesla company be able to directly market cars.

in Wisconsin without going through a dealership.

That's a case that is likely to come before the court.

So there's a few things here in terms of overt corruption that Schimel is, basically he's espousing.

I mean, if he's going to follow the Trump agenda, he clearly is in favor of a bunch of

unlawful action, a bunch of unconstitutional action.

This guy's an outrage.

Greg Box (host)

Yeah, I mean, Jack, thank you so much for calling in.

We appreciate you.

Pat Crite Low really put it well when he said that, yes, George Soros is giving him money to the election.

He gives to a lot of elections.

He doesn't have any business before the court.

He can do what he wants.

You might not like it.

We might not like big money in elections, but

He's able to do that, but he's also not trying to influence a court he might be standing in front of.

Angela Lang (guest co-host)

Not a member of the like the Trump administration, you know giving press conferences with his kid on his shoulder and the oval office You know what I mean?

Greg Box (host)

And we've called for it over and over in Angelo here at matinee on air We we do the reporting big time We've called for someone to please send us a picture of the cash a picture of the check something that says George Soros Paid me to be here.

I will take it in Canadian quarters.

I'll believe you but the thing is

Someone on the live stream said big Jan, which I think you're referring to justice Janet protosewitz.

So, you know, let's just be a little bit more respectful than that was giving a $250 per vote.

That's a pretty big accusation to make.

Angela Lang (guest co-host)

Yeah.

Uh,

Greg Box (host)

you know, I just, I once again, I'd like to see someone saying I was paid, but you don't, you can't cause it doesn't happen.

Cause you know, that's all you have.

You have the

Angela Lang (guest co-host)

old talking points.

legal but like also like as as we were thinking of like the last call I had me think about like the bigger issue that I'm workshopping this like about the hundred dollars itself it's like again we said earlier it is not a secret that the eggs are expensive groceries are expensive child care is expensive and people are seriously struggling right and have all sorts of feels about the billionaire class and there's like the certain level of class consciousness

And here you are a billionaire, not only trying to like bribe voters, right?

Like put that, I guess, aside, but like you're a billionaire literally throwing out like chump change because you know people are desperate for it.

And that is just another level of like disrespect and like I think a bigger issue.

And it feels kind of dystopian.

I feel like all of this should just be in one giant Black Mirror episode.

Greg Box (host)

I was also just accused of taking money from George Soros.

I have nothing on me right now.

So I have.

I have a debit card that, you know, it's a nice debit card, but it's not from him.

He has not sent me a card in years.

Yeah, I just, I, when you talk, Angela, when you talk about people feeling the strain, you don't say Democrats, you don't say liberals, you don't say leftists, you don't say anybody who, it's people.

It's people.

And as the people who want to vote for Brad Schimmel and Donald Trump and...

Co-president Elon Musk, those problems, those are gonna trickle down you.

And if you want, if you want proof of that, Google Elon Musk, two years of pain.

He talks about the fact that we're gonna be two years of pain until this glorious comeback of America, which I still, if I can't get the receipts on what they're doing now with those, I doubt that in two years we're gonna see a glorious comeback for dear leader.

Sorry, did I say that out loud?

Tom?

If you can hold on, I will take your call at the other side of the break, but we're going to take a quick one to get some snacks and some water.

You're listening to Madden Air On Air.

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Jack from Merrimack (caller)

amazing.

Greg Box (host)

Good, good morning, everyone.

Welcome back to Matt and air on air.

My name is Greg box, sitting in for genuine Jane, Matt and air, who is on vacation right now will be returning Monday or sorry, not Monday to

Angela, I give up.

Angela Lange (co-host)

It is a Monday.

Greg Box (host)

It is a Monday.

Tomorrow she comes back.

It's Tuesday.

Thank goodness.

Come back for vacation on a Tuesday.

Just take that Monday off, people.

I got Calvin, Calvinator on the board today and we're talking about, we were talking about musk bucks.

We were talking about Brad Schimel, just, you know, saying all of the quiet things loudly with.

which will be with impunity, by the way.

There will be no repercussions whatsoever.

So Tom from LA has been very, very patient.

Tom, what say you?

Tom from LA (caller)

Hey, Greg.

So if you would like to say, I want to give my Wisconsinites a word of advice.

And that is when you go into the voting booth or when you're voting on your ballots, just remember the word Brad Schimel.

It actually tells you who he is.

He's a BSer.

Greg Box (host)

There it

Tom from LA (caller)

is.

And, um, and the thing is you need to realize that no matter what he says, he says different things to different crowds and he is just full of BS.

So again, when you look at that ballot and you see his name, you don't see a BS by Susan Crawford, the vote for Susan Crawford, vote no on the amendment and vote for under Lee.

But please just know that when, when they tell you who they are, when they show you who they are with their actual initials of their name, believe them.

Greg Box (host)

Yeah.

Thank you very

Tom from LA (caller)

much

Greg Box (host)

Tom.

We appreciate hearing from

Tom from LA (caller)

you as

Greg Box (host)

always.

Angela Lange (co-host)

Don't vote for BS.

That's a whole campaign right there.

Greg Box (host)

Vote for justice.

Susan Crawford justice.

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during Todd Alba's show and then another chance during Dom Salvia's show at 4 p.m.

Four times to win today for this hour.

You are playing for a hundred dollars cash and Your entry goes for the grand prize, which is a queen bed set from Verlo mattress.

So yes text to win contest is Underway happening right now speaking of Todd Alba.

He comes on after us at noon He will be reviewing the first week of the men's NCAA basketball tourney, which if you are watching well, Wisconsin They're gonna get some

They're going to get more rest.

How about we look at it that way, Angela?

They didn't lose.

They're going to get the opportunity for more rest.

And what I'll

Angela Lange (co-host)

say too, we all got to.

find time to rest wherever we can.

Greg Box (host)

You

Angela Lange (co-host)

know, there's, there's, there's a bright side of things, but this giveaway, this is a hundred dollar giveaway.

I can actually get behind.

Greg Box (host)

There you go.

There you go.

We're going to, they're also going to be talking about the women's hockey, which Wisconsin Badgers women hockey is, is undeniably a force to be reckoned with.

I'm talking to you 90s bulls.

Um, and the other news of the weekend.

And, uh, so yeah, keep it, keep it locked here.

after the news at 12 for Todd Alba from one to two.

Speaking of rest, that was a great segue, Angela.

Great

Tom from LA (caller)

segue.

Greg Box (host)

Yesterday, I had the first, my first day off, just nothing to do in three weeks.

And I sat and did nothing.

I mean, the only thing I did that would, would constitute exercise.

was getting up to grab another slice of pizza.

That's the most exercise I did.

And we watched a show.

It's a new, it's a new, it's from Shondaland, Shonda Rhimes, who I won't, I won't, I won't lie.

Her shows for me are not like appointment television.

I don't get like, but some of them I like, some of them are fine, whatever.

But she put out this new show called The Residence, which is a murder mystery based TV show in the White House.

Angela Lange (co-host)

I love it.

Greg Box (host)

Yeah.

And we watched an episode on Saturday and then we watched the rest, the other nine episodes yesterday.

And so that's what I wanted to know about.

And it's, it's, I mean, the cast is amazing.

Uzo Adaba is Detective Cornelia Cup.

You can't find a better name than doc, then detective Cornelia cup.

You've got Gia Carlo Esposito, Bronson Pinchot.

Who else?

There was, there was another one in there.

Jason Lee, who for me as a nineties kid fan of Kevin Smith, love that as well.

And there was another, Oh, Jane Curtin, Randall Park, the, the, the cast is stacked.

And it's just a fun murder mystery.

If you like after party on Apple TV plus, or you like the knives out movies,

This is just, this is great.

You're gonna, you'll be like, oh, I'll watch an episode too.

And you're like, I forgot to go to grocery store because you watched the whole thing.

Angela Lange (co-host)

Well thing.

Greg Box (host)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now you were telling me about a show, Angela, that you really enjoy.

What's, what's.

Angela Lange (co-host)

I am obsessed with it.

It's called paradise.

Greg Box (host)

Okay.

Angela Lange (co-host)

It's on Hulu.

It's got Sterling K. Brown.

He is basically, I mean, also just, that was reason enough for me to watch, honestly.

Because I was like, I don't know what this is.

I don't know if this is the vibe I'm going to like.

But I watched it because of him.

So he plays the president's secret service detail.

And the president is played by James Marsden, who, speaking of Shondaland, my favorite TV president is it's Gerald Grant from Scandal.

But James Marsden is playing a real good president.

And this is not a spoiler because you learned this in the first episode.

The president dies.

And

SPEAKER_01

the

Angela Lange (co-host)

last person to see him alive is Sterling K. Brown, his secret service.

And then you think that that's going to be like the plot of the story?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, you're

Angela Lange (co-host)

trying to figure out who dies.

But the bigger thing that you there's like a cliffhanger at the end of episode one.

Let's just say where they live is not what it seems.

OK.

And it's like real intense, real cool, a little dystopian.

But it's people talk about episode seven.

There's eight episodes.

Episode seven.

is the episode that people are like, that's the Emmy episode.

That is the best episode of.

like television that I've seen in a long time and I cried.

It was intense.

I saw Sterling K. Brown's wife do like a live reaction on TikTok as she's like watching it and she's like crying.

It's such a good episode, but it's such a good like Sterling K. Brown.

He acts his butt

SPEAKER_01

off

Angela Lange (co-host)

everything that he does.

Everyone is like give him all the things and thank goodness it's renewed for season two.

Greg Box (host)

Okay.

I

Angela Lange (co-host)

don't know when it comes out, but.

There will be a season two, which I'm excited

Greg Box (host)

about.

There was that movie he did with Jeffrey Wright that came out last year, American fiction.

That was so good.

Angela Lange (co-host)

I haven't seen it, but I heard it was really

Greg Box (host)

good.

Honestly, it is.

When you watch the trailer and then tell yourself, try to convince yourself, you think you know what it's going to be about.

And it takes a right turn.

And it's a beautiful story.

Folks, what are you, what were you watching this weekend?

What were you listening to?

What were you, you know, movies, TVs, podcasts that you want the world to know about?

855-752-484-2855-75 civic.

That's a call or text or drop something in the live stream.

We want to know what you've been, we've just been, what you've been up to this weekend.

Cause like I said, I got my first day off in many, many weeks and

when that happens, it is a nothing day.

It is going to be on the couch.

And it was raining too, so that even more so, and my dog was just quiet.

She just did not, she was like, I understand this vibe.

I'm here

Tom from LA (caller)

for

Greg Box (host)

it.

Let's just relax.

So we want to hear from you what you are watching right now.

Like seriously, like.

Binge watching that you just knocked out in a day Calvin you had a show that's really taken a hold for you that you really enjoy Tell us more about that program and where you can find it

Calvin on the board

Yeah, so I've um binged and now I'm all caught up on Amazon primes of Animated Tell a superhero show invincible.

Okay.

Um Yeah, it was really good.

I'm not if you know me.

I'm not really a big

Marvel or DC

Greg Box (host)

guy

Calvin on the board

fantasy and sci-fi Superheroes don't usually do it for me, but this is it's really good.

It's Stylistically, it's presented as like a just a 90s like superhero kids cartoon, but then it's Has like Mortal Kombat fight fatalities and

Tom from LA (caller)

people's heads getting

Calvin on the board

ripped

Angela Lange (co-host)

off

Calvin on the board

Yeah, yeah, it subverts the expectation gets pretty bloody, but it's really good and the cast is

insane.

The main cast is Steven UN.

Oh yeah.

Sandra Oh and J K Simmons and then Jillian Jacobs is in it.

Sassy Bates is in it.

Aaron Paul makes a guest appearance.

Walton Goggins is in it.

Like it's just if you think can think of a big like TV star or movie star.

they might have made a guest appearance on

Greg Box (host)

Invincible.

I do not know of anyone who is becoming like, he's, he's enjoying a Pedro Pascal type of moment that is Walton Goggins, a guy who's been around for decades, who is, if you look around, you're like, Oh, he's kind of on everything right now.

Cause he just works.

He's on white lotus, the righteous gemstones fall out.

Uh, I, if they, if they reboot or justify, which look like they're going to do, he'll be on that as well.

He's on this, this show.

I mean, I love me some Walton Goggins, uh, really quick, uh, Jim from Brookfield texted it and said he needed us to repeat the word for the contest.

Jim, that word is rest R E S T as in rest on a bed as in, if you win the grand prize, you get a queen size set.

from Verla mattress.

See what I did there?

This break into spring text doing contest is rest.

That's the word.

Um, yeah, I, that's the thing for me.

Like I love, see, I love Marvel and DC movies.

And I think part of the reason why I like it is, is that like, I know the level of violence I'm going to get.

It's a, it's a PG 13 amount of violence.

Whereas.

I have not watched the boys because I've heard, I

Angela Lange (co-host)

was like, so are you a fan of the boys?

Greg Box (host)

Oh, I've heard some, I've heard.

Well, I heard it gets real graphic on that show.

Angela Lange (co-host)

It's, um, it's a lot.

And I, I watch a lot of stuff.

I love like horror movies and stuff.

The gory or the better sometimes.

Um, but like, I guess because it's not a horror genre, I was like, this is a lot for me, but it's good.

Yeah.

Good show.

Greg Box (host)

All right.

Angela Lange (co-host)

Very good.

Greg Box (host)

Uh,

Tom from LA who just called in said he was watching basketball and white lotus, but haven't gotten hooked on white lotus yet.

I've heard, I mean, that's a show where I people, I heard people, it's a, it's a, it's a scene three.

Also what, Walton Goggins, uh, that's a show that people will blow through as well.

Angela Lange (co-host)

Yeah.

Greg Box (host)

So I

Angela Lange (co-host)

haven't seen the last couple episodes.

Greg Box (host)

I

Angela Lange (co-host)

feel like I'm just like waiting so I can just like watch a bunch of them all at once.

Greg Box (host)

That's how I feel about the last few episodes of Reacher and people laughing when I tell them how much I love the show.

Reacher, it's just such a, just such a, I mean, anyone can enjoy it, but I feel like I am now in that, in that 40, I'm 47.

I'm in that 45 plus group of just, I'm an old guy and I like to read books about guy punching guy.

Reacher is a show where guy punch guy.

Boo, I love it, you know, justice is served, reach your style.

Angela Lange (co-host)

I mean, and that's the thing is like, especially now, like the boys are very intense.

If you haven't seen it, um, I'm not going to lie.

I cried at the finale, not because it was some beautiful heartwarming thing is because I looked outside and I was like, Oh my God, this is happening.

Right.

So it's like, be careful of the stuff that you consume because if you are trying to.

rest and

Tom from LA (caller)

relaxation.

Angela Lange (co-host)

Yes.

Um, sometimes those things don't actually do that.

SPEAKER_01

And

Angela Lange (co-host)

then it's like my anxiety, honestly.

So sometimes we got to watch things like the Kardashians or whatever.

Like I don't need to think, um, and just watch and be.

Greg Box (host)

That's where I like the residence is perfect.

It's a comedy.

It's a murder mystery.

It's, it's, it's, uh, uh,

Agatha Christie for the modern age, you know, basically like one of the 98,000 shows on Brit box that deal with murder in small towns or whatever.

And also if you have Apple TV plus, I think if you need a good purifier, just watch an episode or two of Ted Lasso.

Yes, it is overly positive, but I don't think that should be a thing.

I think being positive is something we can all feel speaking of things that shouldn't be.

This shouldn't be a thing.

We're going to take a quick break.

And when we come back,

We have another installment of this shouldn't be a thing.

This time it's the keep your hands to yourself edition.

It's kind of weird, this one, but we're going to take a short break.

When we come back, we're going to end the show upright with Angela Lange, our co-host, Calvin Butonoff.

My name is Greg Box, sitting in for Jay Mattenare.

Mattenare on air is what you're listening to on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Break into spring, text to win contest keyword until noon is rest, R-E-S-T, don't go far.

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you

Greg Bach (host)

Good morning.

Welcome back to Matt and air on air.

My name is Greg box.

Sitting in for Jane, Matt and air.

She will be returning tomorrow to the big chair and I am sitting here just hanging out with two good, good people.

Calvin, butte and hop behind the boards here as always and my special guest host.

Executive director of black leaders, organizing communities.

Miss Angela Lang has been here all morning.

Angela, thank you so much for hanging out with me.

I always love doing

Angela Lang (guest host)

this

Greg Bach (host)

with you.

Seriously.

Angela Lang (guest host)

Yeah.

Always a good time.

Matt Rothschild, who I often guest co-host with, he just texted me.

He was like, you and Greg are doing

Greg Bach (host)

great.

Matt Rothschild, you are a nice human being.

I like you a lot.

He's also very, very good too.

He's wonderful.

Yeah, so I don't know if you saw this, but before we get into that, let's also talk about the break in the spring text to win contest.

The keyword is REST, R-E-S-T.

You have until noon to text the word REST, R-E-S-T through the Civic Media app.

must have the app to participate.

R-E-S-T is the word until noon.

And then at 1pm during Todd Alba's show, he will have another opportunity for you to enter.

And that's going to happen four times a day for the next two weeks.

All those entries will go in for our main prize, which is a queen bed set from Verlo mattress.

But for today, for this hour until noon, the prize is $100 cash.

So once again,

Text that word, R E S T into the civic media app and good luck.

Angela, um, we do a thing here.

You know this.

We have a segment at the end of the show, part of our audio sorbet.

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There it is.

Greg Bach (host)

We like to keep it light and fresh and fun.

This is, of course, our favorite ending segment.

You can also find us a podcast on civicmedia.us.

Calvin, it's 11.53.

It is time for This Shouldn't Be a Thing.

If you have everything that should not be, please send it to Jane and me at Jane Says.

at civicmedia.us.

You can also send us ideas for shows, ideas for guests, ideas for stories.

Contact us, let us know how we're doing.

I mean, some people love to tell us how terrible we're doing, but we still take those emails because, hey, all content is good content, someone once told me.

But today's edition is the keep your hands to yourself.

And here is the headline.

And I feel like as a woman,

Angela this well, I say anybody but I feel like a woman this can really identify with one a woman here a college student launches campaign to stop doubling statue from being groped

Angela Lang (guest host)

That this shouldn't have to be a thing that we shouldn't have to actually sit down and write a bill and policy and the only reason

a lot of policies exist, especially, you know, and whether it's Disney World or wherever, if there's a sign or if there's a policy, it's because it's happening and people don't want it to happen.

So how bad is it that someone has to launch a campaign to get it to stop?

That's concerning and gross.

Greg Bach (host)

Well, I'll tell you.

A college student is on a mission to protect an Irish statue that is frequently groped by passerbys.

Pedestrians are known to get handsy with Dublin's bronze statue of the fictional Molly Malone because of her low-cut dress as well as the urban myth that touching her will bring them good luck.

Angela Lang (guest host)

Just how we violate women's bodies, even inanimate women's bodies, like what?

Greg Bach (host)

Tourists and locals alike are frequently photographed doing such thing to the chest area of the statue.

So much that the bronze, wait for it, the bronze of the statue has faded.

You know, there's kissing the Blarney Stone, which I wouldn't recommend either, because I don't know where that Blarney Stone's been.

But hey, man, like here's the, you want to believe in good luck?

Good luck.

Go up to her hand, rub her hand and say.

Angela Lang (guest host)

Rubber shoulders, something.

Greg Bach (host)

Rubber shoulders, give her a hug.

There's millions of ways to do this, but you don't need to put your hands, because here's the thing is, if a friend of mine, a friend of mine, if he showed me a picture that I'd be like, really?

That's the picture you got for me from Ireland.

Angela Lang (guest host)

Right.

Like that, this is what you're proud of?

Greg Bach (host)

You could have brought me back a Guinness t-shirt.

I'd been more happy about this than that.

Angela Lang (guest host)

But

Greg Bach (host)

yeah, I'm wishing the college student all the luck in the world.

I mean,

Angela Lang (guest host)

I don't know how

Greg Bach (host)

they're going to do it, but I mean, the thing is when I pass the Fonzie Statue in Milwaukee, I give it a low five

Angela Lang (guest host)

or I,

Greg Bach (host)

you know, touch my thumb to his thumbs.

Hey, let's find a new way to find some good luck here and leave Molly Malone alone.

So folks.

That brings us to the end of another edition of This shouldn't be a thing Thank you to everyone who has texted who has called who is live stream comment We appreciate you remember you have about three more minutes

breaking the spring text-to-win contest, R-E-S-T.

Make sure you're doing that through the Civic Media app.

That's the only way you could enter.

And then Todd Alba will have one at 1 p.m.

as well as 4 p.m.

with Dom Salvia.

Angela Lange, thank you so much for being my co-host today.

Like I said before, I love hanging out with you.

Angela Lang (guest host)

Same.

It was great and it was cool to have Darren here too and, you know, friend of the show.

Friend of the

Greg Bach (host)

show?

No.

Darren, Darren mass.

And remember all the information we're talking about today will be in the, in the podcast notes, including the event tonight that he is going to be heading up that town, that town hall meeting.

Calvin engineers without you, nothing works.

Stay close.

Don't go anywhere.

We got news coming up and then Todd Alba at noon for you.

Stay, stay cool.

Stay amazing.

You are wonderful.

Let no one tell you differently, especially yourself.

You're listening to Matt and air on air on the civic media radio network.

Have a wonderful, wonderful Monday.

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