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And we also have today our special guest, our
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She's here all two hours of matinee on air.
Put your hands together for executive director of black leaders, organizing communities, Miss Angela Lang.
thanks for
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Uh, before we go any further, just wanted to real quick here.
Uh, as always, we do it.
Average price of a gallon of regular milk in Wisconsin three 17.
No change from Friday.
Average price of a dozen eggs.
Five 61.
No change since Friday as well.
When I went, I will immediately bring prices down starting on day one.
Day one, Angela.
Day one.
Day.
What?
Not one.
Day 70.
I don't
Too many days.
Too many days.
10 weeks feels like, feels like two and a half months.
All right.
Now we're in a couple of things before we get started today.
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We're going to be talking about firing yet rehiring.
We're going to be talking about Brad Schimel and Elon Musk bucks coming through again, but we also have a 10 30 very special guest.
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He is rep of the 10th district, which is Milwaukee.
He'll be here talking to us about what he's working on right now, including a town hall meeting.
I know it's a scary term nowadays for representation for people who are, who are elected officials, but he is having a town hall this evening, I believe, about criminal justice, criminal, uh, and, uh, what was it again?
Perfect.
He will be joining us at 10 33 this morning.
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So we got other things we're gonna be talking about.
Let's start the morning with some news that is affecting Wisconsin.
And that is, you're hired, you're fired.
You're re-hired again.
The Trump administration has fired a great many people, and the judges now are coming into the courts saying, nope, you can't do that.
You're sidestepping processes.
You're unconstitutional.
And this is actually having an effect on Wisconsin people, too, because of the 18,000 federal workers, I'm sorry, of the...
individuals who are fired, 18,000 are federal workers here in Wisconsin, close to 3,000 are probationary.
And while I've personally never been in a situation, Angelo, where I've been fired and then rehired,
does not, this is not a place you want to be at because as it says in the article, the article, by the way, um, written by Madeline Heim, Natalie Ilebert, Mary Spacuza, and Caitlin Lobi, uh, it basically says,
that now that federal judges from California and Maryland have ordered the Trump administration to rehire these employees, many are in certain footing, returning to work, but are fearful for the future cuts or rehired, but placed on administrative leave.
So basically they don't know where they stand.
And limbo.
Yeah.
And these folks just want to work.
It's, it's one, it's like, it's playing with people's livelihoods, right?
Like I couldn't.
imagine right and especially knowing you know when you're about to get let go or fired like you you can kind of be like I not like you saw it coming but you understand maybe the things that led up to it right performance.
et cetera, but like this, it's been so sudden and it seems so kind of just arbitrary.
They're taking literally a chainsaw,
you
But not only is it just letting people go and those individuals now having to figure out how to make ends meet.
But then when you are shaking up whole departments in these systems, that also affects the amount of care that folks can provide.
And I think of folks at the VA.
So it's like you're not only letting individuals go and people.
that we're working on now suddenly have to make ends meet.
But now you have veterans who's like services are being cut because positions in people have been eliminated and all of that.
And what I've heard too is trying to get back, you know, to order is also just going to take a while.
It's very quick to let someone go, but to actually get things on the workload back to where it needs to be.
People have said that they're set back years now at this point.
Well, I'm glad you brought up the VA because I was going to mention that the that the employees that have been laid off in Wisconsin come from the medical centers for veterans and
Madison, Milwaukee, and Tomah, a U.S.
Geological Survey Science Center in La Crosse, U.S.
Department of Agriculture, and the U.S.
Forest Service, and the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration, AKA NOAA, those are all here in Wisconsin as well, and they're all being let go.
And the thing you just said, too, is you have two, regardless of the two roads.
If you fire a bunch of people, then what happens is, and we've all seen this, and we've all been a part of this where, you know, we've let go four people.
Well, are we gonna get raises or this?
No, in fact, what's gonna happen is you're gonna take on their workload with no title bump, with no raise, with nothing at all, and you have to get productivity back to where we were on Friday when we let them go.
Or, or, you fire a bunch of people.
And then you rehire them and you have to onboard them all again.
You have to go through all of the levels.
And granted, if they were fired a month ago, they probably don't need new training, but there will probably be some mandatory training they have to go through.
Yeah, because it's a government job, of course.
And so to me, it just, we've been, well, we've been saying it, but he's also shown it at CPAP, you know, the big,
overcompensating chainsaw.
This is not how you do things.
You don't run a business like this.
And personally too, you don't run the government like a business.
You just don't.
That's just not how it works.
But there are a bunch of people out there who say, yeah, this seems like a really good idea.
No, it's not.
This is what's happening now.
We're supposed to have free eggs.
And the whole thing is we're making
government more efficient.
We're getting rid of waste.
And it's like, you're cutting people's livelihoods, families, right?
Probably summer vacations and trips that people are trying to pay for, for their families and all sorts of things that are being cut and that are now just being plucked out and now in this very chaotic mess.
And I, and it's, I'm not saying it's being breezed over, but it feels like it's being breezed over by the administration.
Like they're not talking about the human
side of it.
It's just like, of
course
And it's, it's, it's disrespectful to the people.
And these are some folks, you know, yes, there's a big chunk of folks that were on probationary status, but there are some folks that weren't on, you know, probation and have given significant time there.
And it just suddenly let go.
And they're like, Oh, yeah, well, we're working on it, you know, we're trying to figure it out.
But like,
The administration has proven time and time again that they're just plucking people from normalcy into this very chaotic state, whether it's through immigration, through people losing their jobs, or what have you.
And it's, I think, very chaotic and I think very daunting to think about all at once.
I mean, yeah, if you want to run a government like a business,
I think that's just a tagline anyways, first of all, I think that's just, you know, that's something to make people feel happy about.
They're like, whoa, well, yeah, you know, Apple's a great business.
Well, you know, let's take Apple for example, when Apple does anything, do you know what they do before they make any sort of huge rollout?
They do research, they talk to people, they do testing, they do focus groups, they do all the things you need to do before you make a huge change.
And also they're gonna, and we talked to Dr. Lierly about this last week, you come at it with,
the most precise scalpel you can to make the best and most efficient cuts.
Nobody...
Nobody in this country, I believe, wants the government to be bloated and full of waste and full of spending and full of fraud.
First of all, still waiting for those fraud cases to come down.
Haven't seen any of them.
But meanwhile, on the live stream, I'm being told that we need to spend, yes, Greg, let's spend more than we take on.
That's untrue.
And I don't want to run the government like a charity.
I want to run it efficiently.
This is not efficiency because everything they're telling us so far has been
taken back has been mistakes and there are real people's lives.
So when you are flipping like this and say, well, let's just cut it, you do not care about these people's lives.
Because those vacations you talked about, Angela, those vacations do what?
Say it with me, help with the economy.
They invest in America, but instead, if they don't have jobs, they then have to go on unemployment insurance.
They then have to possibly apply for Medicaid.
Oh, that's right, you cut Medicaid.
So,
I don't know, I guess Doja's doing great work, apparently.
Show me the receipts more than a Twitter account.
That's what I would like.
Show me actual receipts from real people who know what they're doing.
Don't just fire people en masse and say, aren't we great?
what's happening and then you know to bring a little bit of lightness I guess depending on how you think about it I saw a clip over the weekend and it was posted multiple times so I'm pretty sure it was real it wasn't AI but like Elon was at like a dinner and he was like balancing spoons and everyone is like Elon what are you doing and it's like it just looked like a child
at
like... Well, it's once again something he didn't invent, but he's doing it.
People are like, he's a genius.
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Good, good morning.
Welcome back to Matt and air on air.
My name is Greg Bach sitting in for Jane Matt and air who is on vacation.
We're turning tomorrow and we got Cal B on the boards.
We got Angela Lang, the executive director of black live black leaders, organizing communities.
Wow.
Talking is hard sometimes on Monday, Angela.
And we were talking about before, we were talking about the Trump administration getting, so the Trump administration has slashed a bunch of jobs through Doge who, according to the live stream, Doge is doing great work, still waiting for the proof on that, but you go ahead and say words, words can happen anytime you want.
But,
federal judges, and we talked about this with Jim Santel last week, have been stepping up and actually protecting the constitution saying, no, you can't do these things.
They are sidestepping processes.
They are unconstitutional on their face.
And you need to restore these individuals back to their jobs.
Well, just after that story broke this morning about the Wisconsin, uh, from the, from the Milwaukee Journal of Sentinel about those in Wisconsin who are being fired and rehired.
The Trump administration wants to go right to the Supreme Court to halt these judges' decisions.
Because they're saying, you don't have the power to do this.
Well, last time I checked, federal judges have the power to uphold and protect the Constitution if they see it being threatened.
And that's what they do.
So, I don't know.
But also,
This just broke.
This just came across my phone, Angela.
Trump says any country buying Venezuelan oil will face a 25% tariff.
You need a
Well, you know what?
You're not wrong.
I don't think you're wrong at all.
And I
Well, I don't but I don't think you're wrong.
I think there this whole thing this whole existence in the political realm since the golden escalator of 2015 has been vibes has been Has been setting off the mood of certain individuals who feel left out or looked over and you know what those individuals have a legitimate gripe to a certain extent and I we can talk all day long about how some of them weren't listened to and they were told certain things and they got angry and I get that and I would
Love to have a conversation with those individuals, but the vibe now is and it happens almost every time because we've seen it Back and forth with the tariffs is I'm gonna put a tariff on Canada and and China Last second.
Yeah, we're gonna hold off for a month.
I'm gonna put a tariff on Canada Let's wait a month.
It's everything he can do everything the Trump brand as far as politics can go
to appease to his base, to appease to his fans, and to make them like him.
And they always love him, regardless.
They always love him.
But the moment it comes to actually doing the work and seeing that it could cause harm or the long run outcome, which by the way, Dr. Lairly and I talked about this last week as well, these tariffs are gonna have a really horrible effect on Wisconsin specifically.
Yeah.
He doesn't want to see backlash of that.
So he sees the long term.
Oh, they might not like me in the long term So let's just hold back and and and I personally think he loves it when these judges strike down because he can say I tried Exactly I tried and and those those activists judges didn't let me have my way and they don't love America So I'm gonna talk to I'm gonna talk to my four friends at the court the highest court and see if that Roberts guy will help
It's a classic playbook that he does all the time and you know, I'm thinking about how there's like no accountability as Well, you know as you keep saying like show us the receipts.
Yeah, you know eggs were basically supposed to be free things were supposed to be good on day one and like they're not right and this is like Objectively true whether it has touched your life or not yet.
It is going to at some point in the fact that you don't have you know
I'm not even going to call them, you know, these glorified YouTube live streamers on Fox because they're not journalists.
Like why are we not calling the question on this?
Like why are we saying like, Hey, you know, you say you're going to do these things on day one.
Do you think that that was a big promise?
Do you think you oversold that?
Like we're not, this isn't a debate.
Like things are rough right now.
And the fact that there's no accountability is also how we got here.
This
Yeah.
I don't think that.
Major networks want to have that talk because those major networks are owned by corporations and they're held by shareholders and those shareholders like their money.
And while I disagree with it, I understand it.
I enjoy money as well.
But it's up to us and up to you listening right now to share your knowledge and talk about how this makes you.
All those individuals who call us up and you can call us up and talk to us, whatever you want about it, whether you agree or disagree.
Yeah, but bring something to the conversation.
If you disagree, that's all I ask.
It's up to us to share what we know.
And we have things like the April 1 election coming up, which is very, very important.
I know we say it's the most important.
I won't call it the most important.
I'll just say it's one in a many very important elections we've had in the past few years.
We have the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which is trying to be won by a billionaire.
And that billionaire, by the way, is Elon Musk.
And we have a...
Department of Public Instruction, who someone who has never held a teaching license in Wisconsin wants to bring a full-throated support of private, I'm sorry, not private charter and school vouchers to Wisconsin as well, which is just supporting two school systems and does not have a sustainable model in mind.
Yep.
And we will be talking more and more about actually we'll be talking about, we'll be talking about Brett Schimel in the second hour.
But if you have any questions on what's going on with your ballot, what's going on where you vote, you're going to go, excuse me, you're going to go to my vote.wi.gov for more information on that.
You can find your ballot, where you vote, who's representing you and whether or not you are registered.
as well
Exactly.
A very, very good place to go.
My vote dot w i dot gov.
When we come back, state representative Darren Madison will be joining us to talk about his town hall.
He's holding the town hall and you can show up and you can talk to him.
He's not afraid.
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Good morning.
Welcome back to Matt and air on air.
My name is Greg box.
Sitting in for Jane, Matt and air who is on vacation until tomorrow.
Thank you.
I'm a camera's on.
All right.
Uh,
Welcome back to Madden air and air.
My name is Greg box sitting in for Jane Madden air who will be returning on Tuesday tomorrow We had sweet Cal be behind the boards.
We've got Angela Lang as my guest co-host for the day We have Kendrick Lamar as the bomber because you can never stop listening that song I can't stop listening that song and also We spoke about it before but it is the election coming up a week from tomorrow Be a voter make a plan get out there
Find friends, talk to your friends, share what you know.
Myvote.wi.gov for all the information you need to do that.
Um,
Angela Lang.
What does block tell us more about that?
Block stands for black leaders organizing for communities and we are a year round civic engagement organization.
So we will still be knocking doors post April to talk to the community and educate and get folks involved in local actions that are happening.
And we have a team of ambassadors who are basically canvassers on.
steroids who are knocking and engaging the community all year long through our things like community meetings and community cleanups and various events we have throughout the
year.
Excellent.
Awesome.
So my vote.wi.gov, you can go, I will, I will have the, the link to block on the show notes for today as well.
If you want to be helping out, if you want to help out with that group as well, I mean it's, we need you to get out there.
We need you to talk to your friends.
This is a very, it's not a sexy election, friends.
This is a spring election, but there's a lot on the ballot that's important to everyone here in the state and it affects everyone.
So, myvote.wi.gov.
Angela, you have a guest with you today.
Tell us about our new friend.
Yeah, so state representative, Darren Madison, that's the only time I'll call him state rep because he is like honestly a little brother to me.
um and it's one of those scenarios where like the student becomes the teacher and I am so proud of the work that he's done um and how he continues to engage as an elected official and side note I saw um a post the other day from former state rep David Bowen and a picture of you all from like 13 years ago and I was doing the math on it and I was like yeah no we've known Darren for quite some time who was like a a little brother um that we feel we've been able to kind of watch grow up so um when things
of like guests and whatnot.
I had just run across a post about how Darren is going to be participating in a town hall this evening.
And I thought it would be a really good opportunity to talk about that and to talk about his work as well.
So let's start with the town hall tonight, what it's about.
What are your goals?
What are you hoping to get out of it?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's twofold, right?
One, we are, we finally got an audit of the county jail, which
for advocates have been trying to get done for for years as folks have died in our in our local prisons.
One person for every year over the past 12 years and a lot of these deaths are preventable.
So folks are folks are trying to get a sense of you know based off our already bloated shares budget.
In other efforts, how are we actually ensuring that folks who are going through rehabilitation in our prison system are actually kept safe and actually having the opportunity to return to their communities.
And then two, I'm in the space to specifically talk about what's been happening at the state as it relates to the criminal legal system.
We just had these seven bills that just passed through the legislature that increase criminal penalties and increase the reach of our criminal legal system in ways that don't actually keep folks safe.
We already are 5,000 people over capacity in our state prison system, and this will add to that number.
make court cases harder.
Well then,
Appreciate you being able to break some of that down to you.
And one of the follow-ups I was going to say is like, how does this connect to the legislature?
And you broke that down very easily.
Can you talk a little bit and say whatever you would like?
I'm not trying to put you in a weird position.
But I do know a few weeks ago that the sheriff held also a similar type of town hall.
And there's been a lot of organizations and activists, myself included, who either weren't able to go or had said this time is not accessible and asked
the sheriff to kind of change to a different time.
And so why did you feel like it was important to have this kind of town hall, you know, just a few weeks after the original one?
Yeah, absolutely.
And I didn't have the luxury of being at that town hall either.
Often people love to host town halls at times that are inaccessible to community.
You know, and this is another example of that, not our town hall, the other one.
is another example of that where it's often at a time where folks are still at work, often very short notice, and doesn't provide enough opportunities for community members to voice their thoughts and opinions.
Our county sheriffs have not hosted town halls in years, and this is before our current county sheriff.
I do appreciate that she hosted a town hall.
People have been making that request for a long time now.
I don't appreciate that it was only one and that it only, again, it was at a time that was inaccessible.
How that relates to this town hall is because our county shares are responsible for one of our jails and we've been asking them to do an audit as well of their own budget.
as it continues to put the county in a bad position financially.
And then also because, again, every time someone dies in one of these facilities, the sheriff doesn't give a real explanation to what's happening.
what could have prevented it and how they will change their practices and procedures to ensure folks are safe.
What folks want in community is transparency.
What folks want in community is reassurance that no matter what, what someone does, when they commit a crime, it should not be a death sentence.
It should be accountability.
I appreciate
that.
And not, and not to, you know, I'm, this is not a smarmy comment, but I feel like right now in politics and in the face of Doge and now the newly formed, I can't believe I'm going to say this.
I like goat out of Madison.
They're all about audit.
They're all about efficiency.
They're all about, but yet here you come with a request.
Hey, we need an audit of your department and you're getting pushback.
It's a, you know, all good for the, but not for me.
type of situation.
Yep.
Oh, legit.
I don't even like talking about dope.
You don't have to either.
I'm sorry I said it.
I didn't like saying that.
I mean, I'm not on that committee.
But I heard Shae Sorwell talking about how he got pins for all of the members on that committee.
He also, you know, submitted this audit without
Without even consulting all members on that committee for municipalities and counties to tell folks how they're implementing the EI programs.
If you want to talk about efficiency, look at some of the state departments.
We should not be hampering local control in that way.
I trust local leaders to handle local government.
And it's our responsibility as legislators to be looking at efficiencies in our own state government.
And there are things that can be fixed, but that doesn't mean just simply eliminating programs and initiatives, which that's what DOGE is doing at the federal level.
And I hope GOAT doesn't...
function in that same trend.
If you're just tuning in, you are joining us on Matt Naranair with our guest, Darren Madsen, who is the representative for the 10th assembly district of Milwaukee.
And we're just talking about a town hall meeting that will be held tonight.
And it seems, Darren, you are not afraid of town halls, which is great.
A lot of other elected officials seem to be nervous about holding town halls, but it's good to see someone who is voted in by the people who says, you know what?
Let's talk to the people because that's who we work for.
Um, something you just mentioned though about the whole efficiency thing is the, the GOP has long since this, as long as I was a little kid and I'm old was the party of.
You know, less control, less government.
Keep your hands off the local people because they can do it best.
We don't need more government.
And here is, uh, Madison coming in saying, mm, but you need our help.
We need to, you're not doing it the way we like it.
So we're going to step in and we're going to exert some control, even though we hate government.
We're going to govern over various municipalities and counties.
It's just, that's an observation.
I don't, you know, what do I know?
I just have a political science degree.
No, you're spitting, you're spitting Greg.
I mean, honestly, um, constantly, you know, where I, you find often throughout the session in last session, um, when bills like the, like, um, these have come up, um, the common argument that, um, we use on my side of the aisle is that like it is these bills usurp local control.
I mean, at the end of the day, we're all elected by the people, and we have responsibilities, right?
It is not the role of state government to be local government or county government, right?
Or
school boards, right?
And we are consistently overreaching by setting mandates by not actually giving local municipalities, counties, and school boards.
the resources that they need to be effective.
And then when something wrong happens, we point the finger and we say, oh, why didn't you do this?
Why didn't you provide busing for all the students?
Why didn't you ensure there was no lead in water in our schools?
Why didn't you ensure there's public safety measures in our communities while we're also not giving, we're not giving any of these
these local bodies, the resources that they need to be affected.
The GOP loves to talk about how they are about small government and about being about efficiencies in a lot of ways.
As a socialist, I often talk about how I'm about efficient government.
If we have programs and we have models that we want to implement, we should be staffing those things to
um, a some sufficient, um, standard, right?
Um, but we're not doing that.
We're not doing that.
And then we, and then we say, look, look, this is how, this is how, you know, our government is failing us pointing the finger where it should be pointed, which is often at the legislature.
I mean, that's, I mean,
I once again, I'm not going to disagree with what you're saying.
And we're going to keep the conversation going on the other side of the break because I want to talk about some things you just brought up, which were, you know, there's money sitting in the general, in the funds that are going to be, that can fund clean water initiatives and school initiatives and, and things like that.
And, and while the important work of the government, things like access to healthcare and, and affordable childcare is going unnoticed,
We're talking about enshrining voter ID into the Constitution.
I want to talk more about some of the more important issues that you have to deal with there.
And when we come back on the other side of the break, but you were listening to Matt Nair on air, our guest right now is Representative Darren Madison from the 10th District here in Wisconsin.
I've got my co-host, Angela Lange, hear the entire show and Calvin behind the boards.
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I was told to call him Darren from this point because he does not like being called representative Madison, although
man of the people,
I mean, man of the people, Darren Madison.
You were talking earlier in the previous segment about, you know, the fact that we have now a Republican, we've had one for a while, but now they're on the whole doge bandwagon with their own goat, which come on, dude.
They want to, they want to identify these things they believe are very important problems to address here in Wisconsin.
And we, I've seen the polling, you've seen the polling, we know what people care about.
They care about quality water, quality education.
They, uh, they care about childcare for their kids.
They want to make sure that Wisconsin is the best day.
I mean, for some, it's about legalization of marijuana for some.
It's about access to abortion, but it seems like every time we talk about any of these issues,
Here comes Robin Voss with his friend saying, hey, you guys, you know what we need to do?
Voter ID isn't a problem, but we need to turn it into one.
So let's enshrine in the Constitution, even though there's a law in the book says he can't vote without an ID.
And also, by the way, there is zero case for voter fraud.
And just go to the Brennan Center for Justice.
They've published literally like six reports on this.
I mean, I guess, Darren, the comical question is, how do you keep sane?
But the real question is, how do you get the work done that you need to get done for your constituents in your district and make them realize these are priority concerns?
Yeah, absolutely.
So, you know, the voter ID bill that'll be on...
be on your ballot as a constitutional amendment.
April 1st was literally the first bill we had to deal with this session.
Even though folks, like you said, on doors, the only conversations when I went around the state that folks talked about was housing inequities, access to food, and the price of groceries, medical.
medical issues, especially in the western part of the state, right?
Where you are dealing with the huge amount of hospital closures and medical care gaps, right?
You have folks who literally have to, you know, they go into labor, they have to drive three hours to get to a nearest hospital, which is dangerous.
And, you know, we've introduced bills that can help fill these gaps.
None of these bills I've gotten a hearing.
The only bills that we've heard
is voter ID, cell phones in schools, right?
The seven criminal penalties enhancers, several criminal penalty enhancer bills that we just have to deal with, which I will remind you, do nothing to keep people safe, right?
Like when folks commit a crime, they don't say, oh, you know, it's a class H felony.
So, you know, I'm not gonna do this, right?
Folks don't study law like that.
And then at the end of the day, it costs you as taxpayers literally hundreds and thousands of dollars to house these people for more and more years as we raise penalties.
And then we're also dealing with crazy audits like we talked about with dope.
I'm talking to my colleagues all the time.
on both sides of the aisle, as my office continues to draft bills, like cannabis legalization, like hemp regulation, as we are dealing with THC drinks that literally can be sold to anyone, and things like our healthcare and lowering the cost of prescriptions and things in that realm.
And when I talk to my colleagues across the aisle, they'll say,
Oh yeah, I really like this bill.
If it gets to the floor, yeah, I totally vote for it.
But they're
not doing the work to help me get it to the floor.
Unless it's like, you know, I've gotten a few bills that have gotten Republican support before and have gotten them this session, like my parking bill, which I say is a public safety bill, right?
Because we should be able to trust parking structures that we go into.
in right now, they aren't required to be inspected at all post construction, but that's a whole series of things that we're working on, but it's just...
Yeah.
Well, Darren, I don't mean to cut you off.
We got it.
We're going to come up against a heartbreak, but I want to invite you back to the show again to talk about what you're doing because we want to listen to all the representatives and the information on the town hall will be in the show notes for tonight.
If you want to attend Darren Madison, thank you so much for being here.
Thank you so much for being our guest today.
Please come back.
Talk about the work you are doing.
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