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But before we do all that, I am so very happy right now.
Cal, do you know why I'm happy?
Um, is it because it's Friday?
Close.
Close.
It is Friday.
There's no getting around that, but it's Friday.
And I have as our guest, Mr. Harry Cundabolu is here.
Oh,
hi, Greg.
Hey, Calvin.
Nice to meet you.
we go.
in.
So, Harry Gundobolu is a standup comedian.
He is an actor.
He is a director.
He is a writer.
He is a friend.
And he is headlining the laughing tap this weekend.
Now four shows.
We did a show last night.
We have two more shows tonight, 7.30 and 10.
tomorrow 7 30 and 10, but it's unfortunately Saturday night sold out.
And if you don't move fast, you're going to miss out on Friday today early, the seven 30, because that's almost sold out as well.
You're going to be late birds.
Come to the 10 PM shows.
That's where it gets a little weird, but, um, it's great to have you back in town.
Harry, it's been some time since I've seen you.
Lots happened in the world.
Lots happened with us.
And I just want to welcome you to the show.
How first of all, how are you doing?
I am doing fine.
All things considered.
You have to assume whenever people answer, there's a little asterisk connected to whatever they're saying.
All
All things considered.
now.
I started when I was 17.
So yeah, it's been 25 years.
I mean, it was a special show also, because we had the most diverse writing staff on television, I think probably still, to be perfectly honest.
Like, it was executive produced by Chris Rock, had W. Camau-Bella as this incredible host who was new to most Americans
that time.
And, you know, he had his writers do correspondent pieces, and I was lucky enough to do a bunch of those.
And, you know, it was a short...
lived a year and a half, but at the same time, it was influential.
Like, I see it now, like, talking to Bo and Yang and him telling me, like, the impact that show had on his life and so many other comics who felt like, okay, our voices can be heard now.
I think we were a little ahead of our time, which is always nice when they make the documentary later, but not necessarily good in real time, you know, because the show just...
It was it was too beautiful to live I
I mean there are shows out there You're like, oh, this is too smart to stay around people aren't gonna well the thing the thing too is you know, I had you know Kamau Purposely put together that writing room purposely put together so many diverse voices and when you see that now like You can always tell when you watch a show now when the cast and the production is diverse when it's done
with heart and art and purpose versus, you know, television and Hollywood just saying like, well, look at us.
We have some diversity here.
Done with great intention.
Yeah.
And, uh, you know, Kamau hired a lot of his friends, which is an incredible thing.
Yeah.
And at the same time, it's never easy telling your friends what to do and that you are the boss.
But he was he was in this really unfortunate position and a fortunate position where he had people who really understood his voice.
And at the same time, like you have to tell them what to do.
Yeah.
But it was special, you know, like I look back on that time and I can't believe it's already been 13 years like the show was.
gosh.
it's been it's been a long time you know and it's nice to see like Guy Branham has gone on to host his own show and write for other shows and uh you know uh Janine Brito has has created animated shows
then Aparna Nancerala has written a book and appeared on television all over the place
done i've done all right so it just feels like the legacy of the show continues with the folks that were associated with the show wrote on the show
You know, and it was, it was a, for me, it was really sad when the show ended, but like, you know, I read Kamau's book and I realized that as you said, it was, it needed to stop.
It needed to go on.
And that's when you move on and, and you basically hit the road.
Like you've been on the road constantly for, I mean, we met in 2015 in New York.
And I don't think I've seen a time when you're like taking a long break.
You just love, you love the work.
I mean, you really, really love the road.
There were there were two years in there that I took a break because I had to As of the result of a global pandemic
I
a government project No, it You know, I love I it's funny Greg.
I don't like being on the road.
I love the shows.
The actual traveling is exhausting and
know, I have a four-year-old now and it's Becoming more painful to leave though You know, I feel so privileged to have an audience and have such a deep connection with so many of the people that come to my shows that I feel like Alright, this is what makes it worth it.
And if it wasn't worth it anymore like I shouldn't be doing
Well, that's the thing too is that There I don't want to I'm not gonna
you know, begrudge other comedians.
Everyone's got their process.
Everyone has their style.
Everyone, you know, there are people out there who just love to talk about their everyday life and you talk about your everyday life, but like you put, there's a deeper connection to what you're going through as a person in this world, an experience you're trying to convey to the people who are in the audience.
And for those who aren't familiar, we have a snippet from Hari, he sent to us.
This will give you a nice, a nice taste of what you could come to expect this weekend and what you do as a comedian when you write your material.
Go ahead and play that Cal.
Nothing I could do on stage could possibly hurt race relations more than what Tucker Carlson has done in his career.
Even in the last year, man, he keeps pushing this white replacement theory, which is so racist, man.
And now he's denying it, but there's been so much footage of it, right?
And this theory, let me explain this theory to you.
The theory is that people from other countries are going to come to this country, and they're going to come and violent acts against white people and steal their jobs and interbreed with the white population and eliminate the white race, right?
That is not a theory.
It's karma, but it's not.
Not a theory.
Are you upset we stole your business plan?
It angers me so much.
Who is he talking about?
He's talking about me, my partner, my kid, and my parents.
Fuck that dude, man.
It's not even a legitimate theory.
It's not a theory, it's a fear you have.
A fear you have isn't the same thing as a theory.
I have fears too, right?
I fear that one day there's gonna be a bunch of other South Asian comics who are younger and more hungry and more talented than I am.
They'll take my spot, right?
I won't be able to support myself and my family, right?
I call this the hurry replacement theory.
And that, of course, would never happen.
There's no factual basis for that.
It would never happen.
Right?
I don't know if you're laughing sarcastically.
want to talk about politics and want to talk about the deeper things, you know, politics, racial identity in this and maybe because of the time they've spent on stage, they're not there yet.
You got to be really delicate with your pen and how you present yourself and what you want to talk about.
Cause sometimes you can just get down to like, wow, I just feel like I'm being yelled at right now.
But you do it in such a way that it's just like, you talk about these heavy topics and yet
We're still laughing.
We're still on board and we're like on your team because we want to see where you go next.
I mean, it's changed over time.
I definitely feel like I was more ranty early in my career and it took a while to understand that there is a way to keep the audience who might not be automatic, you know, who might not automatically.
Be into what you're doing on board long enough to hear the stuff that's a little heavier Like I love the clip that you played because I feel like it's a great example of what I do like it was it was about a pretty you know big topic about white replacement theory It's about racism, but it was also like it's about my family.
Yeah, it's about it's about You know my life it's it's about how it actually has an impact and it ends in a silly way which is is always like a
You know, something I aim to do, find a way to have a silly out so the audience is still with me.
That's something that I've watched you over the years get better and better at is being a silly guy on stage.
And it's really, really hard to see someone mix, you know, politics.
race relations and silly and make it work.
And you do it and just cause, you know, whether it's taking off your glasses and making a funny face or just what you did that video, it's, it always, it's, it's always very, very fun.
And we're going to keep the conversation going about comedy, comedy and general traveling.
We're just, you're listening to two friends talking right now.
So it's really, really fun.
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Hari Kandabolu is my guest for the half hour.
Don't go anywhere you are listening to Matt and Aaron here on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Good morning.
Welcome back to Matt and Aaron air.
My name is Greg box.
Sitting in for Jane Matt and air who is on vacation.
We'll be returning on Tuesday, but you got me hosting for the day as well as got behind the boards.
Sweet Calbee, Calvin Butenhoff.
And my guest is Harry Gundobolu, comedian, actor, director, all those other things writer.
He does all the things.
He does all the things.
Um, one of the things I did want to mention is he is got two, not just one, but two comedy specials available.
one on Netflix, Warny Relatives, and the new one, Vacation Baby, which is available on Hulu right now.
I feel like, I feel very privileged, Hari, that I've been around for both of those specials as far as opening and seeing the process of you going from a little maybe less of two hours of new material and taking that
and over the course of nine months, oh actually, to be perfectly honest, you pare it down even quicker than that, but by the time you get to that, that time for the special, it has been honed and polished and shined and you know, and you take such care with your words, it's not even just about,
Like, oh, I'm going to cut this joke.
It's like, I'm going to replace that word because this word is funnier than that word.
And I need, you know, to open it up for where I'm going to go next.
It's, it's such as Eric Idle said about Monty Python, their work.
He was all about the carpentry of comedy and making sure it's properly made.
Yeah.
No, I think I put a lot of effort into that, especially when you're tackling subject matter that's, uh,
aggressive you know about race about politics in general like that stuff counts like you're trying to get as much laughter and levity out of it as possible which is not easy considering the subject matter so you know I think in comedy wording does count and delivery obviously counts but I think I feel added pressure to deliver because
because like the subject matter is what it is, right?
Like it's delicate and I don't want to lose them.
And if I can keep them in by changing a word that gets one more laughing than great.
And the
I'm being censored.
It's like, first of all, no, you're not.
And yes, you can say anything you want.
That just means there are consequences to what you say.
And
You know, when you watch as much comedy as we do, it's, when you see someone say a joke or a word or a phrase that can be taken as offensive or taken as hurtful and you know that you're like, I know that's not what you were trying to say though.
You just didn't find the right words.
You didn't, you're just not working at it.
And if you just change this with this, you'll get your point across and you won't be punching down or just hurting people's feelings, which seems like.
No reason at all.
It's very frustrating, but it's also very hard because comedians now want to believe that they're the arbiters of truth when really we're silly clown standing on a stage.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there's obviously a great deal of truth in the words we say.
Otherwise it wouldn't resonate, but like we're also shaping truth while it's happening, right?
Like it is two things.
We reflect, but we also shape.
And I think the shaping part is scary part because that's where responsibility lies.
And that's what we don't want, which is impossible as an artist in a public sphere.
Like there is a responsibility with the words you say, right?
You're not just reflecting society.
Like people are actually being shaped by words, acting based on your words.
Like so, especially when I was younger, so much of my world came from comedy.
Like I understood the world through what I was watching.
You know, it doesn't matter that I grew up in New York.
When you're a teenager, you grew up on media.
You grew up on television and on the computer.
And so the things I was taking in, that's what the world looked like.
And so to me, there is a responsibility in that.
And to ignore that is either you're lying to yourself or to everyone else or it is extremely selfish.
Deal with it.
I mean, it's hard.
In my world, it's like, let me take that in and decide whether I agree or disagree and deal with the fallback from it.
That's what it really is about, is can you deal with whatever that pushback is?
And to be honest, for all these folks who are talking about getting canceled, who gets canceled?
Nobody really gets canceled.
If anything, the cancellation as a stand-up comic is worn as a medal.
And then you end up getting a lot more fans and you get maybe a different fan base or one you didn't necessarily expect, but that's what it ends up being.
And so all these first amendment kind of warriors, it's a two-way street.
You're going to get pushed back for what you say, but also, the thing is,
You have to be a good comic to succeed.
That's just kind of what it is.
You have to be good at your task.
Whether you're saying things that maybe I agree with or things that are incredibly damaging, you still have to be good at the art form.
At the end of the day, if you're good at the art form and you get canceled, that's a boost.
That's publicity and that's also people who are
who are on that bandwagon of you can't say anything anymore but this guy does, he says exactly what he wants to say and I'm all about that and everything like to me like to dismiss something as a joke is also to it's just a joke what does it really mean it's also kind of discredits the art form it's like yeah no we put in a lot of work on what we're gonna say because we think they are
like meaningful ideas.
So then when you get pushed back to say they weren't meaningful, what was all the work for them?
And that's where I, that's where I say like, Oh, it wasn't work for you.
You're just going on stage and doing whatever.
Whereas there's other people out there who are really crafting, uh, an art form for themselves.
So in the last few minutes we have, uh, you're in Milwaukee, you are working on the new hour.
There's a lot of, so, um, anything else you're working on, you want to talk about real quick?
I feel like the stand-up is the main thing.
I always have other things in my back pocket, but I'm still a stand-up comic primarily, and this is still the thing I love to do the most, and the thing I'm best at.
you know, right now I'm just like working on the next hour and then we'll see what happens around it.
But I think, and I think that's true with all comics, regardless of the level of success.
Like at the end of the day, like John Stewart still wants more butts in the seats because he's done television, you know, you still want to do stand up.
Well, and you have your chance to see Harry tonight at the laughing tap, 730 and 10 limited tickets for the 730 left, 10 o'clock available tomorrow, 10 and PM is also available Saturday.
early is sold out laughing tap.com.
Get your tickets now.
We want to see you down there.
You'll see how he performed and you'll see me perform.
You're welcome.
So thank you so much for being my guest today, buddy.
I really appreciate
it.
I'll
Yes.
Take good care of yourself.
Thank you everyone for listening.
We'll be right back.
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I
Believe we have a very special co-host
I wasn't even thinking about that, but that's a great, that's great.
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Thank you for reminding me.
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I'm gonna be a newsman again.
I'm gonna get my paperwork right here.
I'm very, very special like that.
Do you have, I know, I know that you are not a huge TV watcher, but in the annals of television history, there's always a good show out there that people like that just hits, whether it's a comedy, whether it's a drama.
whatever it is, and then it's gone.
One season gone, two seasons gone, and then it's just, and it always sticks with you, whether it's a show you watched as a kid or a show you're watching now, and you just wanna tell everybody about it.
And that's what I wanna talk about during this segment.
I wanna hear from everyone listening on the radio, listening on the app, watching on the live stream.
Share with us a TV show that was gone too quick.
One or two seasons, that's it, one or two seasons.
And we can share it out there.
I mean, watch it.
Because a lot of times most of these shows are streaming.
Calvin, do you have a show that hits with you?
You know, I was combing through canceled TV shows trying to find one.
And a lot of the ones that I really were thinking of still ran for five or six or seven seasons.
But one show that I did think of, it was called Revolution.
It was a sci-fi drama.
OK.
I want to say it was on Fox, but it was on one of the major networks in 2012 and it was like this post-apocalyptic like type thing where there was no electricity and it was really good.
It actually had Giancarlo Esposito in it.
Whoa.
Yeah, I know and He was definitely the biggest name, but there's other people you might recognize from other network TV shows now like
Tracy Spiridocus, she's been in like the Chicago Fire series, I believe.
One of those type of things.
But yeah, it was a really good show and it just, it ended, it was very clearly setting up for more and then it just, yeah, we're not, it's not coming back.
And especially with sci-fi shows, because sci-fi shows will build up these huge endings for their season.
They'll be like, all right, see you next season.
When we find out what was the thing that made the thing happen to the entire planet.
Oh, it was canceled.
Great.
But I see that a lot of shows, what happens is they'll, they'll turn those second seasons into comic books, those certain second seasons into other forms of media that you can at least take in.
But yeah, that's, that's gotta be so frustrating.
We've already got.
a bunch of great comments on the live stream or on the text line.
But before we do that, Wayne in Montello was asking for me to spell our guest name.
It's Hari, H-A-R-I, Cundabolu, K-O-N-D-A-B-O-L-U, Hari Cundabolu.
And he is a fantastic comedian.
You should come out and see him tonight or tomorrow.
We'd love to have you at the laughing tap.
One that's garnering.
I would say like so far, uh, it's gotten the most votes and I'm going to bring up Chris, uh, Alicia on the, the live stream, my favorite TV show that was canceled too quickly will always be firefly.
That's also agreed with by, uh, John and the nominee falls.
He said, one of my favorite shows ever was kind of like a dark version of Star Trek and a lot more likely canceled after two seasons.
Uh, and, but then they made the movie Serenity, which tried to tie it all up in a bow, but that is.
When you talk about shows gone way too soon, I think you're always going to run into somebody who says Firefly because it was just so interesting.
Did you ever watch Firefly, Calvin?
I have not.
It's one of those that up there with like Battlestar Galactica that I feel like I should watch.
I haven't ever gotten around
Another one here on the text line, Brian from Green Bay, favorite show canceled too soon.
I almost feel like he's messing with us.
This is a real show, by the way, what I'm about to say, this is a real show.
It was called Cop Rock.
It was a show back in, I believe the nineties, Calvin, that was a cop.
Imagine law and order with, but it was musical.
I'm not talking to comedy either.
I'm talking like a cop drama that was a musical.
It was ridiculous.
It was canceled, I think after three or four episodes because
They were like, at one point, I remember one of the episodes, a guy was singing about how he trafficked children.
I don't know how you write songs about that, but ABC, it was like, you know what, maybe this was a bridge too far and they took it off the air.
But yeah, Cop Rock was an actual show.
You can YouTube episodes and see just where we're at in the nineties with our thinking.
Another one.
Westworld Brian Milwaukee says Westworld was amazing cut short of the cliffhanger That was one of those shows that got huge huge ratings and then fell off fast people are like
The first season I will say Is one of the best seasons of television I ever watched I absolutely loved the first season of Westworld I got like two episodes in the second season and it just I completely lost interest It did nothing for me.
It also just sort of, it lost focus.
It went just everywhere.
And people were saying, I don't really care about this show anymore.
And that was the thing is, you're right.
People were talking about Westworld in that first season, like it was another Breaking Bad or Sopranos.
And then no one was talking about it because no one cared anymore.
But we're talking about your favorite TV shows that were canceled too quickly, one or two seasons.
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Bronwyn listening WMDX has Twin Peaks.
I never got on that show.
Very weird.
David Lynch, I'm not smart enough to understand his writing.
Just, I feel like you have to have a special kind of brain to understand it.
And Twin Peaks was one of those things where I'm like, I don't know if I can do that one.
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He says, Aaron says this, it might not be a good show.
But Pretty Little Liars had a spin-off called The Perfectionist that got canceled after one season, and I'm very upset about it.
I can't help but love the convoluted drama of Pretty Little Liars.
I never gotten to Pretty Little Liars.
That seemed like so much drama, but that sounds exactly what I was expecting was exactly what you got.
Someone listening, W.A.U.K.
says Oz.
That was another great show people really love.
That was a legendary show, a prison show.
pulled zero punches, uh, very, very violent, very, very gritty, very, very realistic and very beloved of especially that late nineties, early 2000s HBO Sopranos and that sort of programming.
People really love the show.
Marine listening and Nina loved quantum leap.
I did too.
That was a great show.
My mom and I used to watch that show every week.
I don't know if it was, I think that lasted longer though.
I think that was like five or six seasons, but it was still a great show.
And then they rebooted it.
And that wasn't bad, but they didn't need to.
I couldn't.
The reboot did absolutely.
I never saw the original, but the reboot, it was like grating to me.
I like turned it off every
don't know.
I just, I don't like and.
like anthology period pieces.
guess is really the bug me is like, Oh, this episode, we're in 1840, this episode, we're in 1940, like, I don't know.
It's just a little hokey to me.
I just like how much no, well, then don't watch the original because it's the exact same thing just with a different guy.
That's funny to me.
Well, we got got Chris Casper.
listening to mass in a WA UK says Stargate universe.
I never gotten to that world.
I'm not a huge sci-fi fan to begin with, but I feel like when you're talking about Stargate and all those shows, the fandom is built.
It's kind of like firefly.
It's the fandom is built so large now that to be at my age to say, Hey, you know, I feel like watching firefire.
They're like too late.
We're locked up closed.
No more, no more members are allowed cause all their fans are there.
So Chris listening.
to WMDX in Sauk County says the river from 2012, which I've never heard of.
Never heard of this at all.
No idea.
I'll have to look that up, get some context as a drama.
I have no idea.
Great shows canceled too soon from Joanna in Madison listening to WMDX.
Sense eight.
So good.
The wilds.
I watched Sense eight.
That was, that's an intense show done, done by the Wachowski, the Wachowski is.
and it has a lot of messaging in there and it's very intense and gets very, very steamy at some point during that show.
I would just say one of my favorites was Studio 60 on the sunset strip.
It was only end sports night.
Both Aaron Sorkin shows one lasted one season, another show lasted two.
Great Sorkin writing, great back and forth.
Mr. Luke Mathers, Cal.
The handsome and capable Luke Mathers is on the tax line a show called Alcatraz where prisoners for the 1960s were showing up modern day only ran for one season But I really liked it and it left off on such a cliffhanger.
That's where I feel like TV owes us if they're gonna cancel showing a cliffhanger We should at least get like a mini movie or something allow us to have some closure.
That's the biggest problem
when they cancel it and we get absolutely no closure whatsoever.
That, my friends, is the true crime of television.
And that is my statement for this segment.
We're gonna keep the show going for one more.
We've got this shouldn't be a thing.
It's okay to laugh edition, because it is okay to laugh.
You wanna laugh tonight?
Come to The Laughing Tap where Harry Cundamola will be headlining two shows, 7.30 and 10, two shows tomorrow.
only 10 p.m.
Is available laughing tap.com suited to their Calvin.
That's called a segway plug.
Now we're going to go take a break.
We're going to get some water, get some snacks, come back.
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We hope you have a really good time.
I want to thank Dr. Lierly for being my first hour co-host.
always bringing the good vibes, always bringing the good knowledge, always bringing the goodness because she is a good person with a great heart.
So also, I want to thank Hari Kondabola for being my guest for the first half hour of the second hour.
That makes sense.
The first half hour of the second hour, that made sense.
Great to talk to him.
I'm so happy he's in town because it's not just about seeing him perform, but he is a dear friend.
And it's always great to have him in my sphere of
Sight to see great comedy come on out laughing tap calm two shows tonight one show available for tomorrow Come say hi.
We'd love to say hi Calvin.
Are you gonna come say hi this weekend?
You know Don't lie to me.
Don't lie to me.
I'm not going to lie to you.
Okay, it sounds like a lot of fun Hari seems really funny.
Yeah, but I have plans with my video games
All right Okay, also PJ on the live stream says I agree the quantum leap Reap boot was horrible from our last month shows canceled too soon Yeah, I couldn't get through it.
I watched four episodes like this.
I'm done with this So but that's all in the past.
That's a quantum leap forward now because it is 1154 Calvin.
What time is it?
This shouldn't be a thing
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This shouldn't be a thing.
Make sure this shouldn't be a thing.
is more lighthearted.
We're not going super deep on things on this one.
We want to have some good times before we sign off, but today's, this shouldn't be a thing, comes courtesy of the independent.co.uk.
This is the, it's okay to laugh edition.
The headline reads as such, top UK comedy club bands, audience members with Botox after quote, numerous complaints.
So as we all know Botox is injected into your well into many places on your body But when it's injected into your face it limits the mobility of Emotion if you will smiling frowning laughing crying your face has more of a Stony feel to it if you get real deep into it and apparently at the top secret comedy club Who hosts some of the biggest names in comedy such as Jack Whitehall Amy Schumer and a guy named Dave Chappelle who I guess is funny
They're getting complaints from the acts they're getting complaints Calvin from the comics because they see audience members with Botox injections and they're not laughing Some would ask the question.
Are you funny in the first place?
But no, these are world-class comedians
And it says in a drastic move, those with Botox will be unable to see similar stars live at the London venues after stand-up acts shared their concerns that audience members with the frozen faces aren't reacting to their jokes.
This is a real article, by the way, this is not the onion.
The owner, he said it was a last resort decision because, and this is real, I mean, I own a venue.
And if your venue has a bad reputation, people aren't gonna come perform there.
And if comics are saying people aren't laughing, they're not going to come perform there.
So this venue owner said, all right, if you have Botox and you can't laugh, then you can't come to the show, which that's a limbo that I don't want to hopefully ever deal with.
But then we don't really deal with a lot of Botox in the Milwaukee area.
Calvin, what do you think about that?
It seems like it's be incredibly hard to enforce.
Yeah, but also I'm kind of surprised That this is like this sounds like a very LA problem.
Yes, and this little London club.
So I find that kind of funny
Again, are they funny though?
I've had numerous complaints from performers who find it increasingly challenging to gauge audience engagement and bounce off their reactions.
Comedy thrives on connection and facial expressions play a huge part.
We want people to laugh, cry, frown, sneer, but frozen faces from Botox impacts the entire atmosphere.
I get where you're coming from, but as someone who stood on many stages of many sizes, look somewhere else then.
Look somewhere else.
I know it's hard when they're not laughing at you, you're fixated on them, but if they have a face full of Botox and you know that, give them a sign then.
Give them a little paddle.
Like you're funny.
Snap finger, clap hands, or just go, through your mouth that you can't open up because you have no emotions left because your face is stuffed full of Botox.
Either way, if you've got a nice natural face, you are welcome at the Topseer Comedy Club.
And that Calvin is another edition of
This Shouldn't Be a Thing.
Once again, thank you to Dr. Lyrely.
Thank you to Harry Cundabolu for being my guest today.
Thank you Calvin.
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