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The Trump administration was going after a law firm that represented clients apparently he didn't like.
Huh, I didn't know that was legal.
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I thought it was we could we could speak out against the government and that was part of our right as American citizens.
What do
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Oh, yeah
freedom
a First Amendment
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Did want to start off, though.
Did you watch the Supreme Court debate last night between Susan Crawford and Brad Schimmel?
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Did you watch last night's Supreme Court debates?
And curious if you did.
What are your takeaways?
I saw something this morning that just kind of jumped out at me.
There's a far right publication in Wisconsin weighing in on the debate last night between Susan Crawford and Brad Schimmel.
Hard-hitting news from them talking about the big topics, the subject that really concerned Wisconsin and all of our citizens.
I know what you're talking about, Jane.
Tell them what they were talking about.
This searing criticism from
this publication
this
morning, here it is.
Did Susan Crawford crack a single smile during the debate?
I woke up realizing and knew that she really didn't come across very warm or likeable.
I'm not laughing at that, by
the way.
I'm laughing at you right
now, Jane.
You know, she'd be so pretty if she only smiled, Greg.
She'd be so, you know, you'd be really pretty if you smiled.
Oh, thank you.
No, not you.
Oh, that's pretty much to women.
You know, women should be smiley.
And does it?
Concern you that Susan Crawford didn't smile enough last night is is that because I know when I look to a Supreme Court justice I want to make sure they're smiley
That is the
first thing I look for when it comes to deciding important cases is
Were they smiling when they heard these arguments?
Did she show in those pearly whites?
She should like... Did she look... Did she look... She doesn't look smiley.
Do I want to hang out with her and drink some wine and talk about sex?
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I assume Brad Schimmel was smiley enough.
The whole time.
For this publication.
No, Jane.
Because I
didn't see any criticism of him not smiling.
Man can't smile, Jane.
Manly men don't smile?
Man serious.
Man must make justice.
So that's okay.
Absolutely.
In fact, if he smile, he might be lady or the gay.
Oh, we don't want that.
No.
Yeah, that kind of leads me to wonder if she didn't, at least in the mind of this organization, if she didn't do well.
If that's the one thing they're taking away from last night is that she didn't smile enough.
If that's your searing critique of the debate last night between Susan Crawford and Brad Schimmel, I get the feeling that you must feel she did pretty well.
I mean, the problem, not the problem, but what I've heard is that she did it.
She was prepared.
She spoke on the issues.
Brad Schimmel did not when asked, when asked if there was a case that he, like a case that his.
Supporters don't like his ruling on he's I can't remember a one like that.
He can't remember things and then afterwards Judge Crawford stayed behind to talk to the press and answered questions on her campaign and on her record Brad Schimmel left.
He didn't do the same He didn't want to be bothered by the press.
He didn't stay for questions.
He was too busy.
He was too busy like just you know being justice man Interesting manly man.
I don't know.
I'd say when I
I'm a man, some would argue.
I just can't believe that.
I mean, I know why they did this.
They did this because they want to get the reaction.
We're giving them what they want.
We're not calling them out by name because we're not going to do that for them, but she didn't smile.
She, she, yeah.
Oh, stab me through the heart man.
And when I wake up in the morning, there's a ton of things I think about before.
That's like, I woke up realized that was what you woke up realizing.
Well, they got to come up with something.
Yeah.
During what the debates, one of the moderators on WISN, Geron Jordan asked, and this is a reasonable question.
Why should voters trust or believe either one of you when they claim to be impartial?
Brad Schimmel says he doesn't control the money outside groups have pumped into the race.
Crawford says she has never promised anything to donors.
On the flip side, Brad Schimmel now, he's got big flyers out that say it.
He will support the Trump agenda.
I didn't realize that was part of the job of being a Supreme Court state justice.
That seems like that's new.
That seems new to me.
Yeah.
And right now, as it stands, when it comes to the money issue, Schimmel said that it's much more dangerous.
Who is funding?
Judge Crawford, but not him, but not him.
Well, he's Elon's guy.
He's Elon's guy and Elon has spent nearly three million dollars on his packs for Brad Schimel You know, but old George Soros comes up.
Oh, no
Well, and we talked about this before the show and we're both pretty Straightforward about the fact that we don't think any of these rich people should be able to do this.
No
No.
Citizens United was a terrible decision and we pay for it every single day.
Yes.
But in my estimation, because George Soros comes up all the time, George Soros makes a donation, the Elans make a donation, they cancel each other out.
Essentially, yes.
Elon is his own animal.
There
is no democratic equivalent of Elon Musk.
buying a Supreme Court seat in the Wisconsin State Court.
He's alone in that.
And Brad Schimel is Elon's pick.
Please don't take anything else away from this.
Brad Schimel is Elon's pick.
Elon might have a case going before the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
involving his dealerships here in the state.
So, you know, if you have something coming up before the highest court in the state, you want to make sure your guy's on there.
It's an investment.
And I don't, for one, I don't, like, I don't, for a minute, think when it comes to the topics.
I don't believe having
There are a ton of things for me that bother me about Brad Schimel and the money is just one of them You know, I don't believe him when he says he's gonna listen to the people when it comes to issues about abortion I don't believe that for sight.
I think he's nothing more than a Kavanaugh Gorsuch and Barrett where they're saying let the people decide let the people have spoken well No, you would be the person deciding this you would be the person banging your gavel and Stripping people of their rights fundamentally back to the 19th century
Let's go back to the 1800s, things were so good back then.
His words exactly, what is flawed in the 1849 abortion?
No, there is nothing flawed.
What is flawed?
Yeah,
there are no flaws according
to Brad Schimmel.
1849, you guys.
We're talking about last night's debate between Wisconsin Supreme Court candidates, Susan Crawford and Elon's guy, Brad Schimmel, several times, just as Judge Crawford rather accused Schimmel of saying different things to broader audiences.
than two groups made up of his absolute supporters, and he has.
She called attention to reporting by the Washington Post.
Schimel said that Donald Trump was screwed over by the Supreme Court when it came to the 2020 election.
Another reminder, Brian Hagedorn, a conservative, is the only reason that we didn't toss out the results of that election.
He sided with the liberal justices that it was a free and fair.
They did two recounts.
And Robin Voss, who spent our money trying to look for flaws in the election, came out and said this was a free and fair and safe election.
You go back to listen it when, when, when Brad Jimmel is talking to up front, when Brad Jimmel's talking to the, the, the, the local networks, he has cool column, cool, calm, collected and very reasonable.
He seems moderate.
He seems moderate.
He seems level headed, but you'd listen to him on, on, on, on those conservative shows, his real stripes come out and those stripes match the stripes of people like Elon Musk, who is spending big money on him and knows.
knows no matter what Brad Schimmel says.
He says he's not for sale.
He's not for sale because he is sold.
That'd be a good t-shirt.
Oh, Brad Schimmel's sold.
I just imagine that that name tag from the price is right.
It says Brad sold as is.
Wisconsin Examiner also reported that Brad Schimmel told a group of canvassers, again, small private groups, not the general public, not his ads that are going out and airing everywhere.
He told a group of canvassers he would be a support network for Trump.
That doesn't seem impartial to
me.
That doesn't seem
impartial.
Not one bit.
I didn't think that was his job as a Wisconsin Supreme Court justice.
And you just made a perfect example, and examples can be made with Amy Baconey Barrett and with John Roberts, putting aside political beliefs and ideologies to go for what is important here, and that is justice, the right decision.
You poopside your own biases.
to issue the correct response.
And someone like Justice Haggadorn should be lauded for that, because it would've been easy for him to say, nope, we're done, but he didn't.
Yep, absolutely.
Did you watch the debate last night?
We'd love to hear your impressions.
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I'll work on my smiling, gotta be smiley.
I don't want you to go home at the end of the show and say, oh, she just didn't smile enough.
It wasn't a very good show.
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Before the break we were talking about last night's debate, only debate before the...
election on April 1st.
We are, what, two and a half weeks away?
Two and a half weeks.
Two and a half weeks away.
Did you watch the debate last night?
I'd love to hear your impressions.
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As we pointed out at the beginning of the show, there is a right wing publication in Wisconsin.
On Twitter this morning, their big takeaway.
Did Susan Crawford crack a single smile during the debate?
I woke up realizing anew that she didn't come across very warm or likeable.
As a woman, there is nothing I love hearing more than
You should smile more.
You know, you'd be really pretty if you smiled.
People would like you more if you smiled.
Yeah, you'd be so much more effective as a justice if only you, if you just smiled a little bit.
I'm pretty sure that John Jay, who was the first chief justice of these United States Supreme Court, one of the things they've said about him is brilliant mind, dedicated to justice.
Great teeth.
Great.
Saw him all the time.
Nice purlies.
Nothing but purly whites all the time because that man was a smiling machine.
Well, and that's the most important thing.
Of course.
When you are considering, you know, someone going on Wisconsin Supreme Court, they better have a nice smile.
All my surgeons who've ever worked on this body right here, this face.
Smilers.
Smiling.
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Bill from Akanawa.
Good morning, Bill.
Thanks for joining us.
What was your takeaway from last night's debate?
Well, first of all, I'm smiling.
Second of all, as far as the debate, we can say this emphatically, Shifty Shimmel wasn't smiling.
No,
I just noticed that too.
But here's what's really interesting about last night.
This is really going to be a barometer, thermometer, whatever you want to call it, has America, has Wisconsin had enough of Trump.
Because if they have, she will win.
If they want more beatings, or want the beatings to continue, Schimel will win.
I really think this is going to be more interesting than Trump even winning the presidency.
Because the implication that Wisconsin is going to send throughout the country is either going to be very positive or very negative.
That's a great point Bill.
It's a really important race.
Good heavens There's an article about Brad Schimmel in the Wisconsin or the West the Wall Street Journal this morning
Wall
Street Journal mother Jones I mean there's we have a lot of eyes on Wisconsin as we always do but yeah, this is a big race and and you're right It's gonna it's kind of a referendum.
It's a
commentary on the Musk Trump agenda.
It's so far is in the first quarter of before the first 100 days I believe to yeah and
I mean, we're seeing all sorts of stuff come out of the White House, but just there's people not getting along.
And I mean, the stock market is, I mean, the Treasury Secretary said, oh, it doesn't, this isn't
a big
deal.
Three weeks of tumbling stocks.
And
I mean, do you want that kind of, what uncertainty coming to any sort of elected officials, elected positions here in Wisconsin?
Do you want that kind of uncertainty on the Wisconsin Supreme Court bench?
Do you want a guy who has said his job is to uphold the Trump agenda?
To support the Trump administration, Brad Schimmel has said that, out loud, while not smiling.
When Justice Janet was elected, she was elected handily.
A huge 12-point win.
I cannot believe for one moment that every single person who voted for Justice Janet was a Democrat.
or
unindependent.
I agree with you.
I think there were Republicans in there who were saying, nope, this is a this is a bridge too far.
This is a seat too important.
We need to make sure that we as Wisconsin are protected with good minds, making up good decisions for us.
And I think the same can be said for justice for Judge Susan is that we will have a mind at work here doing the good work for the people versus Brad Schimmel, who is
bought and sold.
We talked about this yesterday.
Is that the role of a judge?
Justice on the Wisconsin Supreme Court to support the presidential administration.
Jane, you know, it'd be amazing
if we had someone who was coming up soon
on the show
where we could ask that question.
Like an actual lawyer,
like a lawyer,
like a lawyer,
not just a lawyer, a lawyer who used to work for the U.S.
government.
If only we knew some.
Oh, wait, we do.
We do.
We do.
We are lawyer adjacent to Jim Santel, who is a lawyer.
A darn good one.
He's a darn good attorney.
He's going to be joining us after the 10 30 news Give us a little perspective on that he I don't know we'll have to ask about his you know his I would like to get his opinion on smiling and how important that is when you know Arguing cases in front of in front of a court.
I'm sure it's really important.
That's an L1 the first-year law school
smiling.
Yeah, there's a whole chapter on that
orts and smiling It's
And you better learn.
You better bring that smile.
Practice.
I just wish we had a
little ting, a little... You weren't loving whatever's coming over the text
line.
There's only so much time and we're just about out of time.
Thank you so much for everyone weighing in.
We can't share everything that comes across unfortunately all the time.
Some of it's not appropriate.
We have news coming up next and then we will come back with the always appropriate Jim Santel, host of Amicus, a law review on Civic Media Saturday mornings from 9 to 11, so stay close.
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We'll be back.
Don't ever say you're on your way down when God gave you style and gave you grace I'm pretty smart
Good morning.
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Jim Santel is here.
Good morning.
And you're smiling, Jim.
It's so important.
I only go to lawyers who smile.
Absolutely.
That is the principle credential that all of your listeners should look at.
If you're smiling at you, even though you're there, plainly to address some issue of challenge, maybe even great tragedy, let's be sure that we're smiling.
And again, the commentary on this.
Shifts what we should be talking about is you and Greg have just noted.
Well, we're gonna get into that But the reason we're referencing this and I'm having probably way too much fun with this There is a far right publication on social media this morning their big takeaway from a last night's debate between Judge Susan Crawford and Elon's pick a Brad Schimmel and I quote did Susan Crawford crack a single smile during the debate?
I woke up realizing anew that she didn't come across very warm or likeable.
I tell you, Jim, I love it when some stranger tells me, you know, you'd be really pretty if you smiled more.
That's just, it's so life affirming.
Right.
And in addition to being misogynist, sexist, discriminatory, all those other things, it's good to know that that's where the campaign is.
Also note in the category of footnotes to this that
The Crawford campaign about a week or so ago did file a complaint indicating that the Shimmel campaign in the course of a video, a televised ad, actually altered her smiling face to make it look like a frown.
Interestingly, here's the quote from the campaign, the Shimmel campaign saying, they acknowledged they did this.
They acknowledged they did it.
After they got
caught.
But they said it would be disrespectful to the victim.
This was about a case that Judge Crawford handled, but already been traumatized by the mistake that led to the release to show Crawford smiling when she should be feeling ashamed.
Wow, high marks for gymnastics and trying to explain your being caught.
And it's so very sad.
It really is.
And tragic.
It really is.
Deadly serious.
It genuinely is.
And whoever gets on the Wisconsin Supreme Court is going to rule on things that affect our daily lives here in Wisconsin.
I'm curious, Jim, Brad Schimmel, very proudly now, out with these great big mailers that must have cost a lot of money.
Thank goodness he's got Elon backing him.
That essentially says, oh, you have one.
I am here to support the Trump agenda.
put me on the Wisconsin Supreme Court so I can enact the Trump agenda.
I didn't think judges and we're supposed to do that.
They're not supposed to do that.
Let's start with your good point, Shane, which is, even though we moved far beyond this, this is supposed to be a non-partisan election.
There was a time in our lifetimes, the time in Greg's lifetime, maybe not in Calvin's, but in Virtuey, everyone else's lifetime.
When these things, these kinds of things, these political statements and promotions would get you in big trouble.
And they don't anymore.
As for these flyers that, yes, are showing up on my door on a regular basis, in addition to the notion that we do not, even in this time of partisan politics for a Supreme Court race, we do not.
We do not.
We cannot.
We cannot be promoting any candidacy.
based upon overtly political agendas.
And aside from that, take a look at this one.
Again, I've spoken about this in the past.
President Trump is winning for our country.
Vote for Brad Schimmel, and therefore you will be promoting advancing the Trump agenda.
Now, Judge Schimmel, former Attorney General Schimmel, you know better than this.
You know that that's not only wrong in terms of basic what you do.
But it's wrong in terms of civics.
Look at what he's telling people, relying upon, presumably, their lack of information, that he will secure borders, he'll make safer cities, and ensure sensible spending.
None of those things, except in the most tangential way, is ever on the docket of the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
And this is what's so upsetting Jane and Greg, and that is that in addition to, again, it's partisan, but it's also telling the voter from Brad Schimmel,
I think you're stupid.
I think that I can rely upon the fact that you do not know what the Supreme Court does and therefore I'm simply going to appeal to kind of very visceral sense that yes, he can be there promoting Donald Trump on the bench in Madison.
It is civics 101 that he's wrong and it's cynical and should in and of itself be disqualifying.
for his candidacy.
And just briefly, I'm curious, what kinds of cases come up before a state Supreme Court?
Absolutely.
Again, this is the point.
The great majority, then we know about some of the big one, right?
Voting issues recently, all kinds of things.
Those are a very small percentage of what the Wisconsin Supreme Court does.
not at all to indicate that the docket is boring.
That's not the message here, but an awful lot of things related to contracts and business and real estate and the interpretation of laws.
And frankly, most people don't need to know about.
Yes, there are also cases involving matters coming up from the lower courts.
Plainly, the circuit courts, the appeals courts, family law, children's matters, criminal cases every so often come up.
We do not hear about the great majority of them because they're addressing some specific legal issues that are not at all partisan in nature.
They're not at all political.
They're still disagreements.
But again, the great majority of the cases before the Wisconsin Supreme Court, even the lower courts, are just not political.
And let me assure you, regardless of whatever side of the political aisle you may be on,
They're not addressing things like securing the border, the southern border.
That's a federal issue in the Constitution.
Safer cities, those are things for village presidents and municipal mayors, those kinds of things.
Spending, that's legislature, that's a county executive and a county board.
The Supreme Court just doesn't do those
things.
One thing though, if I understand correctly,
One thing that can come up in front of the Wisconsin Supreme Court are issues related to, say, business.
And if someone has a particular business that wants a particular license that they're unable to get for whatever reason, you would take something like that and work its way up to the state Supreme Court.
Say if I had, I don't know, like a car dealership or something.
Right, exactly, exactly.
And all kinds of things like that come up through the administrative process.
you can appeal from the administrative process into our courts, could get up to the Supreme Court, and it is a reflection of the kinds of nuts and bolts things that a Supreme Court, even the lower courts do on a regular basis, licensing issues, permitting issues, as I said before, real estate property, sometimes divorce issues, things that are very much, again, I think most of your listeners do find these things interesting because they are intellectually engaged, but they don't make the headlines because they're not
of the partisan nature that sometimes animates those headlines.
One of the things we heard in the past year and a half was, you know, especially when it came to the review of the legislative maps, was that Justice Jenin needs to recuse herself immediately.
She needs to recuse herself immediately.
She said they were rigged, so therefore she needs to recuse herself.
Well, based on
all of these statements coming out of Brad Schimel's past, whether it's abortion, whether it's voting, whether it's, he would have to recuse himself for almost any big cases coming through because he has made his, he has given his personal decision on what he believes should happen with these cases, whether it's abortion, whether it's maps, he has said, or, or like, I mean, I don't see January six coming up in front of them, but like,
He's given his opinion on January 6th.
He's given his opinion on the 2020 election.
So it almost seems like he's made himself, if by their standards, who are yelling at Justice Janet, he should be recusing himself on almost a weekly basis then.
Absolutely.
And you list some of those things, Greg, that are out there.
Plainly, we should all be moaning the fact that somehow this is now just a part of our regular practice.
It wasn't that way.
I'm looking once again at one of the flyers.
And he is talking about believing Wisconsin voters should determine abortion.
Again, you know, that is a written statement of his.
We can use what he can do.
And this is the reason why it's so sad that we've got these flyers and these advertisements out there.
How about some promotion that say, I am a judge who will interpret the law according to the legislative intent.
I am a judge who will ensure that due process is afforded
every single litigant in our Wisconsin system.
I am a judge.
I'm a justice who will ensure that when it comes to interpreting the Constitution, I will apply contemporary standards, but also be respectful to history.
All those kinds of things.
There's a huge number of things you can, in fact, advocate about and describe yourself as instead of all of this political pablum.
And that's the problem.
I think the reason why a duck
The reason why I can't say that is because I believe that voters nowadays don't want to read that.
They want to read, oh, my biases will be confirmed, the things I like will be here, and the things I don't like will be gone.
I don't want someone who's going to think I want someone who will do doings better than thinking.
If you're just joining us, Jim Santel is our guest, former U.S.
attorney, currently an acting attorney.
Host of amicus a law review Saturdays across the network from nine until 11 talking about last night's debate between Judge Susan Crawford and Elon's pick.
Brad Schimmel also last night and Brad Schimmel has said this repeatedly that he thinks that voters should decide the abortion issue.
Should this man not be aware that we don't decide things like that in Wisconsin?
There is no vehicle.
For state voters to do that, we don't have the referendum system in order to do that, right?
We do not.
And perhaps you're thinking about other states who do, in fact, we've seen that around the country.
Wisconsin is not one of them.
How does that come about?
That was, again, a procedural decision a long time ago that we do not have that mechanism.
It is a concern, once again, that somehow Judge Schimel is so cynical.
that he believes that just by saying that, he will therefore prompt people to think, oh, oh, in fact, that's what he will accomplish when in fact, not only can't he do that, he doesn't have the authority to do it.
It is
as soon as he's unbound.
And that's one of the things that, you know, he's playing on people's possible ignorance of the process, too, because he might say, let's let the people decide.
Oh, that's what I believe.
That sounds
great.
That sounds great.
And then like, oh, wait, we don't get to decide.
He said the judge said we get to decide what happened.
And that's another problem, too, because then you have to
Do a process story and you have to educate people on how the things happen and then it's like are you even listening to us at this point?
It becomes very very wonky, which I think we like wonky, right?
Wonky is wonky is intellectual.
Wonky is in the weeds.
Wonky is understanding what's going on and sometimes it does require more than just a flyer that has our current president's face on the top of it saying that we will indeed get get Donald Trump
in the Wisconsin Supreme Court by voting for Brad Schimel.
It requires some sophistication and some specificity that we need to bring back into all these campaigns.
And again, to the extent that the voters out there in Wisconsin and other places, I think they're okay with that.
I realize we've got a lot of things going on.
These are important things.
Before you go into the polling place, spend some time figuring out what the reality is and what the civics of all of this
really can support.
And I would really encourage you to check out the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
They recently had an article on both Judge Crawford and on Brad Schimmel.
If you don't feel you don't know enough about them, there are avenues for you to to check that out.
We can include those articles in today's show notes.
If you if you've never checked it out before after the show is over, Greg puts up our podcasts and then includes show notes that include articles to things that we've talked about.
If you would like to find out more, people are busy.
We understand people are busy and you have a life and you don't have time for all of this.
That's why we try to help break things down a little bit and make it a little bit more digestible for us, too.
And you can also be smiling while you're reading through
all of that.
It's so important to smile, Jim.
I was
going to ask on one of those door hangers, is President Trump even smiling?
No, it's a grimace.
It's a grimace.
It's so much more effective if he was smiling.
That's really a shame.
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Former US Attorney Jim Santel is here.
We were talking about last night's Supreme Court debate between Judge Susan Crawford and former Attorney General and Elon Musk picked Brad Schimmel.
We're going to move on, Jim, to something that has kind of been under the radar, but I do think it's really important that people
understand what's going on.
President Trump signed an executive order a couple of weeks back, stripping lawyers at a firm called Perkins Coy of their security clearance and access to government buildings, essentially because he didn't like the clients they represented, right?
That's right.
One of those clients, by the way, was a person named Hillary Clinton.
She used to be a presidential candidate.
She was our secretary of state, a senator from New York, and happened to be the first lady, among other wonderful things that she has done in her career.
Perkins Coe does represent a lot of individual campaign folks, and also it takes positions when these things come forward.
Nothing wrong with that.
That's what private law firms do all the time.
They have clients who pay them to represent them in court.
That is the American way.
We've been doing that for 240 years.
And so Donald Trump comes along and once again, in perpetuation of his view that I'm going to be your retribution.
Right.
At which he said during the campaign, now I'm going to go after some of the law firms.
We've gone after the media.
We've gone after many other people.
Let's go after federal employees who aren't doing any work.
Let's now go after law firms.
Let's go after the lawyers.
Again, this is a sort of Shakespearean first thing we do.
Let's kill all the lawyers, which again is not a lawyer joke.
It's an invocation of the notion that lawyers keep us all honest.
Thankfully, we also have a federal district court judge.
And this is the other great news, Jane and Greg, that we've been talking about recently.
We've got a judge named Beryl Howell.
We have seen her a lot in many of these big cases, including some of the January 6 cases.
She issues a temporary restraining order, says no, Mr. President.
Like all those other federal judges, we're approaching 50 now who said, you can't do these things, Mr. President.
And she, yes, she says, you can't stop them from coming into federal buildings.
You can't subject the firm's contracts with federal contractors to review.
All those things are in violation of the First Amendment.
And along the way, she says,
that she talks about how this is a different constitution.
She criticizes Donald Trump saying that it sends little chills down my spine that the Trump administration claimed it as the executive power to label people as threats and bar them from engaging with the government.
She noted that many of the lawyers who worked in the Trump related cases have since departed the firm.
and the language again was overtly broad in targeting the firm.
And indeed, the firm has come forward and said, we've got clients who are now leaving us.
We've got clients who are now afraid by the intimidation of a president of the United States of America.
This is a violation of the First Amendment, commercial rights, all kinds of things of the highest order.
She'll have another hearing coming up next week.
She will almost certainly make this a permanent injunction.
It'll go up to the court of appeals, maybe to the Supreme Court.
The issue which we always are concerned about is, will Donald Trump follow the law?
And we have a judge saying, you can't do this, or will he instead, as he's done in the past, say, I don't care.
And that's once again, when we get the constitutional crisis.
Jim, isn't something like this the thing that sets the US apart from so many other countries, we are able to hire
legal representation and say, I don't like this thing the government did or is going to do to me.
And I have the right to challenge that.
What the Trump administration is saying, I don't want to hear any criticisms against my administration and you don't have that legal recourse anymore.
And I will shut you down if I think you're going down that road.
That should send chills off everyone's back, right?
Yes.
Shane, you've got it just right.
These things are not just in law school.
Oh, they are.
They're implicit and explicit every single day in law schools around the country.
But we've got to recognize, I appreciate a good lawyer joke as much as anybody else does, and smiling through all those genuinely.
But the reality is that it's precisely what you said, Shane, if I've got a reason to believe that I have been damaged in some way,
A civil right has been trampled upon.
I've got a property interest, something related to my family, my children, contracts, the commercial things that you talked about before.
Our approach in this country is you can go into courts.
They're open.
And most often, and this is a big issue in America, of course, I go to lawyers.
Why?
Because they know the system and they can represent me well.
It's kind of like saying, I'll do my own surgery.
You would do that in the medical area, right?
So you go into court with someone who knows something about it.
And indeed, we have said when it comes to criminal cases that you've got a constitutional right to an attorney, and there are an awful lot of people out there, including the State of Wisconsin, who are advocating now for something that is a next big and important step.
It takes a lot of resources, but it's also the notion that maybe you've got a constitutional right to civil representation as well.
That's a bit more controversial, but it underscores the fundamental notion that lawyers, again, in confidence with you, can figure out whether you've got a claim.
can file a lawsuit and can represent you are obliged to represent you as aggressively as they possibly can.
That's our system.
Jim Santel hosts amicus a law review every Saturday morning across the network from nine to 11.
Check it out.
It is a great show.
Thank you so much.
Jim really appreciate it.
Keep smiling.
Oh wait, you
don't have to.
You're a
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I just stepped outside.
It's really nice out.
Not for long.
Well, enjoy it today.
I feel like we should call it weather and wine when it's night's weather.
That's what we deserve.
That's what we deserve.
Yeah,
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We did want to spend a little time on this because this is a big issue for a lot of folks.
Social security is an important thing.
And we had brought this up a couple of weeks ago when it was reported in the Wausau Daily Herald that the Doge website, of course, which is supposed to list all of the great savings,
that Elon and his lackeys have found, they listed a social security office in Warsaw that they were going to shut it down as part of their big cost-saving measures.
We have been accused of fear mongering, Greg Bach, when we talk about these things.
We're actually just reporting things that appear in publications.
But OK, here is something that just happened.
This is from The Washington Post.
Social Security scraps far-reaching cuts to phone services after a Washington Post report.
So this is what they were going to do.
The Trump administration and Elon Musk.
Late yesterday, the Social Security Administration dumped plans.
They were going to end phone service for millions of Americans who file for retirement and disability.
because they wanted to cut this off to root out alleged fraud.
So what they wanted to do, you would no longer be able to call a Social Security office if you had questions, if you wanted to apply, if you had anything, no more phone calls.
Now you would have to rely on the internet and in-person offices
in order to process your claims.
Of course, that's going to be problematic if you're in one of these communities where they want to shut that office for cost savings.
That could make it a little sticky.
There was so much pushback on this, they've now backed off, but only because I'm assuming other fear-mongering outlets like us shared their plans.
Well, and that seems to be the way, I mean, like I'm looking.
I hate that I'm looking at this right now.
I'm looking at the doge.gov website.
And all it is is tweets.
It's, if you scroll, if you look at it, you scroll down, it's just tweets.
It's all this.
It's not like here.
Like, like before they were showing the seats, which were being taken down at a phenomenal because they were
making so many mistakes
or make it like they did not spell millions.
Millions doesn't start with a B. It starts with an M like as in millions, but
The things they're just putting and the everything they're putting on here is just to to rile up their base the USDA at USDA was funding a $397,000 grant in San Francisco Bay Excuse me to educate queer trans and BIPOC urban farmers and consumers about so you gotta click you gotta click see that thing is you gotta find out more yeah about food justice and values align markets That's not a bad thing
food justice, food deserts, making sure that people have access to growing access to supplies.
They make it seem like it's a horrible thing, and they're cutting these programs.
And they're putting these ones up on the front now because they're the ones that will rile that base up.
The receipts before, they took down because it just, it's too-
Well, it was so inaccurate.
It's so dry.
This is now, you basically have your own little doge tweet central, and it's just...
I don't like it.
Well, again, they backed off on this plan.
They were going to make sure that people could not call Social Security anymore, which a lot of elderly Americans do.
I know people who are not necessarily Internet savvy, who rely on making phone calls to process claims and things like that.
They were going to cut that out and make people elderly and disabled.
We either rely on the internet or go in person, which is so easy for everybody, and it's not, to process their claims.
But again, the pushback was so great.
From this portion of it now, they've backed off.
However, customers will no longer be able to change a direct deposit routing number or other bank information by phone.
They say that is where all the fraud is and again, I'm not against finding, I'm not against finding waste and fraud and abuse.
I'm really not.
I just
want to know
the specifics of where you found it.
And I want someone to be held accountable then too because if it's fraud, if it's wasteful spending, cut it if it makes sense.
If it's fraud, please bring someone to court and say this person, but what I'm hearing when you're saying this is
You have someone who's not computer savvy calling, I need to change my routing number.
It's fraud if you're doing it in a fraudulent way.
If that's something that happens on a regular basis and a number is, it's taken down incorrectly, that's not fraud, that's called a mistake.
And you rectify the mistake when you don't get your check.
But I wouldn't...
refer to this as like the main well of fraud.
According to the Trump administration, approximately 40% of Social Security direct deposit fraud happens when someone calls the agency to change their direct deposit bank information.
So that's going to stop at the end of this month, according to Doge.
The statements did not say how much fraud is believed to happen through this channel.
All it says is all other social security administration telephone services remain unchanged.
Jane, what is the E in do stand for in this situation?
I believe it's efficiency.
Does this sound like a really efficient use of time, energy, manpower, all those things.
And then is it sound like it's efficient for the people who have to make these phone calls?
No.
Yeah.
So in recent days, this article from the Washington Post Musk's team at Social Security.
has led to a fast downsizing of staffers and services.
They had considered these telephone service changes to claims processing until again, all of this pushback happened.
That's why it's important that we stay up on this stuff.
And I know it's exhausting and I know sometimes it's dry and I know sometimes you're like, well, that doesn't affect me.
Ultimately,
it will.
It does.
Anybody who's listening to this, anybody?
who has a job who's of any age, they're paying into social security.
This affects you because this is what we're talking about now.
Meanwhile, in the Congress, they're working to gut social security.
They're working to gut Medicare and Medicaid.
They're making it so that they won't even need these phone lines anymore because there'll be no more money to give away to begin with.
And me, 47 years old, I won't even, I won't even bother when I hit the age I get to collect on because it'll be done.
It'll be a thing of the past.
And people who are lying it right now will be, I don't know what will happen to them.
Will they just get to get the rest of their money and they'll be done?
I mean, this is just such, I cannot believe that people who voted for Donald Trump wanted this to happen.
I don't think they wanted this.
Regular folks.
I'm talking
about regular
like working class, blue collar people.
They didn't want to see their social security get, get messed with.
But here we are.
Here we are.
Chainsaw on hand, and this year is going to hurt people.
Well, good heavens.
I mean, Elon said it.
There's going to be two years of pain.
And that seems to be the new mantra now.
I have seen some Trump officials on various outlets talking about, yep, it's going to be bad for a couple of years, but ultimately, down the road, it's going to be great.
when
they're all out of office.
That's
the new sell.
That's the new selling position.
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Good morning, Jean.
Thanks for joining us.
Well, thank you so much for the service that you provide because people need to know this information because of the fact.
And they've spread so many lies and misinformation that poor people
They need to hear this information because this is going to affect the whole economy.
They stopped this, and it isn't an entitlement.
It is an insurance policy that people have paid in for years and years, so people need to know and understand it.
And I hate to say it because I've been independent and I've voted for people in the past.
but not anymore because if they look at history the same thing kind of happened under the bush not like that but you know people's claims weren't being processed they had less feedback time and then when obama got in
Boy, they had call back numbers.
You know, you didn't have to wait for two, three hours on the line.
And Obama had it where you could press this thing, and they'd call you right back, you know, when it was your time, and you didn't have to sit on the phone.
I mean, there's just such a difference in the way Democrats handle people and the way Republicans abuse people.
So thank you very much, guys, and keep up the great work.
Thank you.
Thank you,
Gene.
Thank you so much, Gene.
Really appreciate it.
Alright, Brittney Merlot.
We're gonna talk weather and start lightening things up a little bit when we return.
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Today, Todd will chat with Chef Dan Jacobs.
He's working with Main Street Alliance.
We've talked to them a number of times about they are having a day of action next week, and they're going to talk about what the next Wisconsin budget could include to support.
Main streets around Wisconsin, main streets and small businesses are critically, critically important.
Politicians like to call us the backbone of communities.
And the backbone of the economy.
So yeah, join Todd today from noon to 2 p.m.
It should be a great discussion.
And then they always do their own lightning up.
of things with what's worse.
It's a lot of fun.
So join Todd today from noon to two.
She joins us every Thursday at this time for a little weather and wine.
Civic media meteorologist Brittany Merlo.
Good morning, Brittany.
You're a meteorologist.
This stuff is good for you.
I know changing weather is exciting.
Yes.
Oh, yeah keeps me on my toes.
I know right this one.
We're working in Hawaii would be so boring you did nothing to talk about That is not the case here in Wisconsin.
We have nothing but non-stop.
It feels like whiplash weather
Yep tis the season for it.
So my goodness.
We've got everything going on Everything you could think of is probably headed our way.
So a
little bit of everything
Yeah, I want no complaining.
No, I'm just kidding.
You can complain about this one.
This one's pretty bad.
So here's what we've got going on
Nice, comfortable today, right?
Gorgeous, sunny.
It's
beautiful.
Yep.
Can't complain.
Love it.
OK.
But tomorrow, things are going to be changing.
It's going to get windy.
We're going to see gusts up to about 30 miles per hour.
We could also have some small storms in the morning.
So don't be shocked if you hear some claps of thunder early.
Those aren't the bad ones.
That is moving in along that warm front.
We are going to have those winds whipping us to temperatures in the low to mid 70s, which is
crazy.
Yes.
Crazy.
It's outrageous.
I know.
So a gorgeous warm day, but we're not looking at much sunshine.
It's also going to get a little humid and muggy.
Nothing oppressive, but you're going to notice a difference, right?
OK.
And those things are all acting as fuel for severe thunderstorms.
And it's the classic setup when we get these crazy warm temperatures spiking up and then a cold front slams into that.
That's what we're going to see tomorrow night.
So a strong line of storms wants to push into south and western areas around nine o'clock.
quickly moves over to the Madison area around 10 and in towards Milwaukee around 11 and we're looking at a slight risk for those areas all the way from the cross to the Dells to Milwaukee and what a slight risk means is scattered severe or isolated and intense strong storms so that means
It's going to be worse down into Illinois.
It's going to start to weaken as it pushes into Wisconsin.
And yes, we could still get a couple leftover tornado warnings are possible.
Wow.
And then also some damaging wind gusts approaching 70 miles per hour are possible and some hail.
So this is definitely the stronger of it is going to be into our southwestern parts of the state.
And then, of course, it is going to lift north.
Everyone's going to get storms tomorrow night.
But far into the Northwoods, it'll just be some more thunder, heavy rain and hail.
Well, certainly people want to stay up on those on the potential for any tornadoes.
That's really frightening.
But so we're 70 mile an hour winds.
That's not good.
Nope, both do some pretty bad damage.
So and people are like, it's winter.
It is.
And we had a tornado in February last year, if you remember.
So that was the first time we ever had a February tornado.
So middle of March isn't too crazy.
I guess these days.
I think the only thing that's consistent about Wisconsin, whether it's its inconsistency, no matter what, throw a dart on any month in the year and you can say, well, it's December.
So there's going to be snow, probably not, not at all.
I
was trying to forecast for the draft in Green Bay and I'm like, okay, I know what the average is, but let's be real.
April in Wisconsin, anything can
happen.
Well, and I think it's important what you just said with the time that we have left Brittany, I want to talk about the cuts that the Trump administration is making at the, at NOAA.
and the National Weather Service.
And I just read something that they're stopping training now for a meteorologist.
In the past, they have sent meteorologists to areas that are dealing with wildfires and floods and things like that.
And those people actually report to like local television stations and help them coordinate the information that's going out to the public.
Now, those positions have been eliminated.
They've cut that program.
What does that mean?
I
mean, loss of communication.
from where it's coming from to the TV, out to us as residents, we're in more risks from all of this.
I mean, if we're taking away our younger population of scientists trying to learn, they're not going to learn.
And we're going to be stuck with retiring people, aged people.
Like what?
Where's the future?
And the weather's only getting worse.
So with those people missing, there's just major problems ahead.
And plus the forecasters, you think about a severe weather outbreak.
That's about to happen right now into Illinois and portions here.
There are less people working there.
This means delayed warnings going out.
This is all going to affect us.
It's scary stuff.
And as
a meteorologist, you can't do forecasts if you don't have the data that is collected by these agencies, correct?
Correct.
I mean, model forecasters that put in all the data to put out what I'm looking at to tell you the forecast right now is going to get worse and worse.
So even my forecasts, you know, if I don't have the data, what am I going to give you?
I guess I'll put the question out to the people who think that all this is great as far as who they voted for.
Tell me why this is good.
Tell us, tell me why less information, less communication, especially in this kind of situation, why that's better for us as a people.
I'd love to hear from you.
Brittany Merleau joins us every Thursday at this time.
Hang on to your hats this weekend and please stay up on the forecast.
We don't want anybody to get hurt.
We want everybody to have a good weekend and we will join, we will see you again next week.
Brittany, words are hard.
It's
okay.
Thanks.
We have news coming up next.
When we return, we're going to talk all things sports with the Journal Sentinel Sports Guru.
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We have some basketball action this afternoon, JR.
We do.
I love March.
March is the best.
It's not just basketball.
It's the
Sort of the NFL free agency was going on.
That's kind of cool thing leading into the draft.
Baseball is wrapping up.
We're getting to the real stuff here toward the end of the month.
We'll actually have games in March.
So this is the time of the year for gurus, for Journal Sentinel Sports gurus, like myself.
Absolutely.
Happy times.
It is a happy time.
The basketball gets going in earnest really for Wisconsin and Marquette, both of whom played this afternoon, early afternoon games in the conference tournaments.
Wisconsin will play Northwestern.
getting going very soon here in the Big Ten tournament.
They kind of need the win to keep their hopes alive of hosting games in Milwaukee.
Hosting is the wrong terminology, but to be assigned a first round venue in Milwaukee, they really need to be a solid top three seed in the tournament.
They had a late, late regular season loss to Penn State.
That's just really bad.
I mean, Penn State wasn't playing for anything.
It was in the Cole center, just a really rough loss.
And I really feel like right now that is the difference between them playing in Milwaukee or getting sent to like Denver or Seattle.
So they really, really need to win this game.
probably could stand.
I mean, obviously they could stand to win a whole bunch of these games.
They're still going to the NCAA tournament.
They're safely in.
There's no concern there in some regards that makes this tournament just to tune up for, for the big one.
But, oh man, they could really, really use that victory.
And, uh, it's, it's been, it's been tough for both teams.
Both men's basketball teams have really been in late season swoons, Marquette as well.
Like if Marquette, I mean Marquette could win the biggest tournament and that would help their cause to some degree, but really they're kind of.
They're down now to like a six, seven, maybe even an eight seed and if they're an eight seed.
They would play one of the four best teams in the tournament in the second round.
That would be a really tough, tough road to hoe for them.
So, uh, it has not been a great second half of the season by any stretch for Marquette.
They could stand to show well also, but again, they are also safely in the tournament.
There's no concern there.
So these tournaments are fun, but really the big stuff begins with selection Sunday followed by the tournament next week.
Just in case you wanted to catch today's game, by the way, JR, uh, Wisconsin at Northwestern broadcast starts today at 12 30.
You can listen on.
media stations WLAK and Amory at WFHR in Wisconsin Rapids and also on WRCE in Richland Center again, Wisconsin at Northwestern today, our coverage starts today at 12.30 on those stations.
So on to from basketball.
I just like as we share notes in the morning about what we're going to talk about.
I love the the bucks are bad.
But last week,
but last week.
Bucks good.
Yeah.
Well, you know, it's it's an up and down.
It's a it's a journey for the Milwaukee.
It is.
They have lost three consecutive games.
They play the Lakers tonight.
LeBron James will be unavailable.
He's injured.
Luka Donch is a little banged up.
Good, good game coming up for the box because they're scared.
This is part of a really tough schedule.
They got 18 games left in this season.
I think it's kind of asking a lot for them to finish 500 in those games.
You know, nine to nine would be, I think, pretty solid given how tough the schedule is.
They just haven't shown well against really elite competition.
The Lakers are pretty good.
Oklahoma City will be facing off the Bucks in the not too distant future.
That's going to be a very difficult test.
And then they've had these recent losses to teams that aren't elite, but are kind of in their bracket, you know, Indiana, they lost the other night on a basically a buzzer beater.
It was, it was not quite a buzzer beater, but with three seconds to go, a three pointer by Tyrese Halliburton, Oshkosh's own really burned the Bucks with a foul.
They made the free throw and the Bucks lost by one.
They lost to Orlando before that.
They lost to Cleveland in pretty convincing fashion in between those two games and Cleveland is one of the elite teams right now.
So the Bucks just, just.
are missing something like they do they do have stretches where they win games they're a playoff team they're a sound playoff team but there is such a big chasm between where they are and the very best teams in the west too but primarily but the east it's it's the nicks it's the cavaliers and it's the Celtics they would be in those teams not one time this year so they absolutely need to figure out a way to level up i mean they've got two of the best players and you know in basketball they just
Don't have it when it comes to winning, you know, winning against really tough competition.
There's a five game West Coast road trip coming up.
That's really going to test them.
You know, like I said, most of these 18 games left are primarily against pretty good teams.
They're going to win some of those.
But really, like if you wanted to say what are the buck's best wins this year, I think you could distill it down to like two games.
They beat Denver at home, which was really nice.
They beat Oklahoma City in the NBA cup final, which was their most impressive performance by far.
That game doesn't even count in the standings.
And it was a long time ago.
They have to show that they're that team because that team can win the NBA championship.
The team we have seen since
then just is simply not that good.
Calvin, you were upset with a particular call.
You want to chime in on this?
Well,
going back to the end of the Indiana game, credits Tyrus Hill, Halliburton, incredible shot, fantastic shot, but I don't know in what world Yannis followed him.
He looked to be straight up.
I didn't see any contact in the lower body.
It's a
bad call.
I think it was a bad call.
It was a miserable call, for sure.
I agree with you, Calvin.
I would say this, though, the shot goes in, so it's already tied.
I mean, bucks are probably going to overtime.
Maybe they lose it over time.
It wasn't like that call took a loss, you know, took a win from them.
But yes, it made it much easier for the Pacers to finish that off.
It was not a good call, but.
It's the risk you run you just they gave up too good of a look I think with three seconds left off of an inbound and Halliburton has been kind of this agent of chaos, you know He likes to mimic dames, you know dame time celebration.
He likes to he's been some teta tets I guess with the bucks and Tyrese Halliburton, so There's been
a dance
there has been a bit of a dance a dance if you will and
I think we're, we're kind of headed down a path where he's like kind of one of them arch nemesis of the Milwaukee Bucks going forward.
If you're just joining us, JR Radcliffe is here.
He joins us every other Thursday from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel to talk all things sports.
You mentioned the Packers free agency briefly.
What, uh, what exciting, scintillating things came out of that or, or not so much.
It was
not scintillating.
It was, it was not scintillating.
It was.
Fine.
I mean, I really, and I think I've even said on this program, I thought the, the Packers would be maybe more involved on some of the bigger names.
I thought they were equipped to do that.
They, they brought in a guard offensive lineman named Aaron Banks.
He's fine.
A cornerback named Nate Hobbs from the Raiders who's intriguing.
I think there's some, some upside there, but these are not, these are not even like top 50 guys on the, on the free agent market.
At the same time, they lost some players.
Nobody I think is going to be upset that they lost.
Truly key contributors last year.
Like Josh Myers, their center was probably the biggest name who went elsewhere.
But there's definitely a sentiment that they could be better without him, you know, like they could maybe Aaron Banks comes in Elton Jenkins moves to center.
Now we're talking about a much, much improved line from what they were last year.
So that's not a huge loss.
Eric Stokes just never really developed.
He was a first round draft pick speed guy who maybe just didn't quite have the skills and then injuries took away the gifts he did have.
So.
That was that was unfortunate, though, his career arc, but his departure is not going to be felt too dramatically by the Packers.
A.J.
Dylan, fan favorite, Philadelphia Eagle.
So that's maybe a tough one for fans.
But but he did not play last year.
He was injured and quite honestly was kind.
I mean, the writing was very much on the wall that he was on his way out anyway.
So we're not, you know, you're not talking about a loss there in terms of on the field stuff.
So there the free agency is not.
Over per se there they could they could still add some some guys but again We're not talking about big names there.
There's a possibility of a trade There's a possibility that they you know still still do something dramatic before the draft But they're probably not this is probably the team that they're gonna run with and then they'll hope to supplement some stuff in the draft Calvin you want to chime in on this?
speaking about AJ Dylan's fan favoritness and
The way this Wisconsin election turned out, maybe this increased his fan favoriteness in many people's eyes, but
I
saw it as a fall from grace when he attended the Donald Trump's Green Bay Rally and appeared to fully endorse and support the current president's bid for the presidency.
You know that may have
I mean, I don't want to cast aspersions anywhere across the world, but like Green Bay Packers fans are kind of a lot of in that boat.
So like, I don't know if that really impacted his fandom.
I think, you know, when it comes to sports fans, like, are we fickle?
Yeah.
Are we fickle?
Oh God.
Yes.
Of course.
Of course we're fickle.
Like, you know, on field performance, Trump's everything.
Trump's the wrong, maybe the, but like when it comes to like political affiliation or anything like.
Ultimately, if you succeed on the field, that's going to supersede everything.
I think AJ Dillon, he got hurt.
He just wasn't that effective.
He wasn't as good as I think his skill set suggested he should be.
And not that that made people sour on him.
He still had his fans.
He's a Dork County superhero, but I think people just kind of let him go.
You know, they kind of maybe moved on from him.
They should have made AJ healthy
again.
Yes, make AJ.
Yes.
Maha.
Maha.
I'm not sure.
We'll
wrap it up with a little bit of brewers.
What is happening with the crew?
Obviously a preseason is underway.
Yeah.
We're a couple of weeks away from
I've never heard sport.
I've never heard baseball called preseason.
Well, they're not in the regular season yet.
I'm not making fun.
I just I'm
I've never heard someone refer to baseball as breeze.
It's fine.
It just, it was a new way of taking it in.
MLB's got, you know, like it's MLB, not the MLB, although there's, there's respect to them.
A lot of people are calling it the MLB lately.
It's a clubhouse.
It's not a locker room.
You wear a notes or something else.
It's a manager.
It's not a head coach.
You know, like we've got, baseball's got some, some particular.
It sounds like wrestling is like, you're not wrestlers.
We're superstars.
Calm down the rock.
Yeah.
Um, so we're two weeks, two weeks away.
Spring training is almost over two weeks, uh, March 31st is the start of the season.
So, uh, that's actually the start of the home home opener.
They'll, they'll have a series in New York before that.
I think things are pretty much on track.
My favorite thing to watch is a relief pitcher named Craig Yoho.
Y O H O people are going to love him.
Really?
Because they already have so many relievers and, and they don't want to.
It's just a roster crunch, essentially, but make make no mistake.
He is one of their best relievers.
He is sensational.
He's a guy that they got out of Indiana.
He had arm trouble.
They paid him next to nothing when they drafted him in 2023.
He has been dominating the minor leagues.
He's totally out of the blue, basically.
He's it's a long story, but basically they signed him to save money elsewhere in the draft.
And he has not only saved them money elsewhere in the draft, he himself is fantastic.
I wanted them to bring him up last year.
They didn't do it.
I, you know, you will see him this year.
It's not going to be right away.
But I think this is going to help Brewers fans move on from Devon Williams very, very quickly.
I don't know if he's going to be their closer right away, but.
He is just that good.
And they they have they have a few young players that are worth watching, but that that guy I think is going to make a major impact this year.
And you'll remember him because his name is Yoho.
Well, I was going to say, I hope he does well because those are just memes waiting to happen.
The play on Yoho is I mean, the possibilities are endless.
He can
only come up to pirate music.
That's it.
We
have to we have to work on that.
He throws a very good change up.
They're calling it the yo-yo pitch right now.
So.
We are, um, this is, this is going to be a big moment.
Um, and you know, nice thing, Reese Hoskins, he's doing pretty well in spring training.
He's at five home runs.
I think it's five.
Maybe it's only four, but he's, he's really pounding the ball.
He, he hit home runs last year, but was ultimately not that good.
Like it was a really rough signing, but let's imagine him being fully healthy coming in this year, being a little bit better.
That would be a massive upgrade for the brewers.
If the guy who, the incumbent at first base turns out to be a more complete offensive player this year.
There's a, there's some really, there's some, there's some nice signs there.
Greg, I'm starting to feel.
slightly positive thoughts.
We're leaning a little bit more into it.
Are you feeling hope?
I shall extinguish that.
Not hope.
That's not good.
Crazy.
Hope
makes Bruce fans very uncomfortable.
It's not that to that degree.
It's just, you know, like things are going okay.
There's really no other bits of injuries, but nothing.
first shattering Brandon Woodruff is on track.
You know, the guys that you want to see performer performing, you know, Jackson Cherry is hitting the ball really well.
Reese is hitting the ball really well.
It's
not
hope, but it's it's not and it's not
pessimism either.
I love I love that.
I just that should be a shirt.
It's not hope, but it's not pessimism either.
JR Radcliffe, you can read all his wonderful stuff in the Milwaukee Journal set.
No, thank you so much, JR.
Appreciate it.
We'll see in a couple.
Alright, see you in a couple weeks.
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A federal judge ordering the Trump administration to offer reinstatement.
to thousands of fired probationary employees at the Department of Defense, Treasury, Agriculture, Energy, Interior, and Veterans Affairs.
The judge said that the mass firings are a sham, strategy by the government's office to try and sidestep legal requirements for reducing the federal workforce.
We'll see what happens with this.
I don't know, call me crazy.
It doesn't seem efficient to come in with a chainsaw to an agency and fire a whole bunch of people only to be ordered by a court to bring them all back because you can't do that that way.
Yeah, I mean some would say it's a brainless thing to do and
a waste of time waste of
money Let's just see how the supporters justify this one.
Oh, the courts are left leading
But again this breaking just as we're coming back on the air tens of thousands of fired federal workers must be reinstated immediately Judge US District Judge William Alsup described the mass fireings as a sham strategy
by the Trump administration to get around legal requirements in order to legally shrink the federal government.
It is 11.53, Calvin.
That means it is time for.
This shouldn't be a thing.
Should you have a thing you think should not be?
Email it to Greg and me.
Jane says at civicmedia.us this from the Associated Press.
No byline that's unfortunate headline reads man found with live turtle concealed in his pants by TSA at New Jersey Airport a Pennsylvania man going through security was found to have a live turtle in his pants It was found Friday after a body scanner alarm went off at Newark Liberty International Airport a TSA officer then got the lucky duty of patting down the man
and determined, I think there's something in that area of your pants.
When questioned further, the man reached into his pants and pulled out a turtle about five inches long, wrapped in a blue towel.
He said this was a red ear slider turtle, which is apparently a popular pet.
The man was escorted from the checkpoint by Port Authority Police.
and then ended up missing his flight.
Oh, well, the turtle was confiscated.
It's unclear at this point if the turtle was the man's pet or why he had it in his pants.
Excuse me.
I don't mean to be forward, but he said, turtle in your pants, you just happy to see me.
This a quote from Thomas Carter, who is the Federal Security Director for New Jersey for the TSA.
We have seen travelers
try to conceal knives and other weapons on their person, in their shoes, and in their luggage.
However, I believe this is the first time we have come across someone concealing a live animal down the front of his pants.
as best as we could tell, the turtle was not harmed by the man's actions.
Oh, it was harmed.
Up here in its brain.
Psychologically, that turtle is never going to be the same.
No.
He said the incident remains under investigation.
It's unclear if the man will face any charges or penalties.
My favorite part of this entire story, the turtle confiscated.
Not clear if the turtle was the man's pet.
or why he had it in his pants.
What I really enjoy about that story is he told them what kind of turtle it was as if TSA were going to be like, oh, well, then go on.
Sir, you've been upgraded and your turtle has its own seat
now.
It's a red-ear slider turtle.
Why didn't you say so?
Move up into first class.
You
both have TSA pre-check, of course.
He gets a free seat.
There you go.
That wraps up today's edition of...
This shouldn't be a thing.
Tomorrow is
Friday.
It is.
Dan Schaefer will be here.
He is the founder of the Recombobulation Area.
He is also Civic Media's political editor.
Yeah.
I highly encourage you to join us in hour number two when Dan Schaefer is here.
I am working on a blog post that hopefully will be posted sometime next week.
We do talk about this.
We know things are serious.
Yes.
We know that people are concerned.
We are too.
Yes.
And that's why, personally, I think it is really important to find whatever small speck of good every day.
I agree.
If we
can.
If we can.
There's nothing wrong with that.
And more importantly, as you say, Jane, what do you say?
Well, I'll get there.
OK.
Thank you, Greg
and Calvin and all of our engineers without you.
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And thank you most of all for calling and for texting and for listening.
I do not say that lightly.
It really does mean the world.
I hope you find some joy today, even just a little bit.
And you have the chance to share it.
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