Show Us The Canceled Checks (Hour 1)

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Show Us The Canceled Checks (Hour 1)

Matenaer on Air · Mon Mar 10, 2025

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Jane Matenaer

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It is Monday, March 10th.

As of today, the average price of a gallon of 2% milk in Wisconsin, 318, the same since Friday, and the average price of a dozen large eggs here in the state, 624, also the same since Friday.

We have a jam-packed show coming up for you today.

We really do.

Randy Manor, retired Major General, is going to be joining us after 10.33.

What do we do now without any allies?

our best.

We're going to talk to Randy Banner about Ukraine, Canada, Mexico, Europe, kind of long-term allies of the United States, maybe not so much anymore.

Randy Banner will be joining us to talk about the implications because that will affect all of us here in Wisconsin.

I know it seems very, very far away, but there are ramifications.

that we need to keep in mind.

So Randy Manor will be joining us at 10 33.

If you have a question for Randy, please send it in now to Jane says at civicmedia.us.

Our money million millions is going to join us after the 11 o'clock news going to talk about the Apollo showcase coming up in Milwaukee.

Great opportunity for young black students to get up and perform.

So we're going to learn more about the Apollo showcase.

Coming up after the 11 o'clock news, 11.33, Chris Ramos from Blaine's Farm and Fleet is gonna join us.

I had heard a report on the farm report with Pam Yankee, who by the way is wonderful.

Everybody at the Midwest Farm Report is fantastic.

And she had done a thing about Blaine's mailing bees.

What?

Yes, they mail bees.

Lots of people are taking this on my sister's neighbor, actually.

has been raising honey bees for the last couple of years.

More and more people are doing backyard bees.

They male bees?

They male bees.

Do they female bees?

I believe they do.

And then we will, of course, wrap it up as we always do.

With this shouldn't be a thing.

We have an update for you on a previous tisbet.

Greg Bach

Nice.

Jane Matenaer

So stay tuned for that.

Right now, though, I did want to start off, since we were just talking about egg prices,

In case you missed it, over the weekend, President Trump retweeted an article from Charlie Kirk on his social media website that essentially said shut up about egg prices.

Greg Bach

But wait a minute, they were the ones talking about egg prices all last year.

No,

Jane Matenaer

no, no, we should shut up about egg prices.

Why though?

I mean, they're so affordable, Jane.

Yeah, just thought I threw that in there.

Also, as we were coming on the air this morning, the stock market down again,

And we have now effectively wiped out all of the stock market gains from November 5th.

Greg Bach

Yes.

And it's not just the Dow Jones.

It's all

Jane Matenaer

of them.

It's across the board.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

The talk of tariffs really going over well.

Greg Bach

And I was telling you this before it went on the air.

From Friday when we left to this morning, I couldn't keep up because anything tariff was

We're gonna suspend tariffs for a month.

We're going to raise tariffs on this.

Tariffs on this country, tariffs on Canada.

It's so confusing to me.

I couldn't even imagine being in the businesses that possibly could get a tariff.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and if there's one thing that business and farmers alike love, it's uncertainty.

True.

Makes their lives so, so much easier.

But we wanted to start off by talking Bernie Sanders.

Is Bernie Sanders 85?

I believe so.

Let me look it up.

He is well into his eighties.

Bernie Sanders, this from Wisconsin Public Radio draws a capacity crowd in Kenosha.

Three and a half thousand people showed up at UW Parkside last Friday.

He

Greg Bach

is 83.

Jane Matenaer

He's 83.

Yeah.

Greg Bach

It was huge.

And he has all the energy.

Jane Matenaer

He really does.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

Lots of people came out to see Bernie Sanders.

And again, they had to turn people away.

Greg Bach

My friend had, my friend went to the place and he went to the Kenosha stop and he was in the overflow room or the overflow because it was just too many.

They had to direct them and then they had to turn people away.

Right.

Eight.

Jane Matenaer

If you were there, by the way, we'd love to talk to you.

Yes, please.

855-752-4842 855-75 Civic Bernie Sanders talking about the average American.

They worry about what happens when the car breaks down.

You need to put a thousand bucks to get the car going.

If you don't have the thousand dollars, you can't get to work.

If you can't get to work, you lose your job.

If you lose your job, what happens to your family?

Bernie Sanders said, we have to come up with the ideas and the agenda that working people all over this country support.

Bernie, of course, backs publicly funding elections, raising the minimum wage to $17 an hour.

and universal Medicare for all.

He also compared fighting billionaires influence to American colonists who took on the entire British Empire.

And he believes the oligarchs can be beaten.

Yes.

It was a massive, massive turnout.

And Bernie Sanders was not the only ones who has been making the rounds.

Mark Pocan.

Greg Bach

Mark Pocan.

Jane Matenaer

Mark Pocan has also been out on the trail, essentially going to areas where the Republicans won't show up because now they're afraid of everybody.

Greg Bach

Well, now they're being told don't go there anyways.

Just don't even bother.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah.

Just don't go.

Yeah.

Just don't go.

We talked about this a little bit last week.

Of course, the Republicans' response to people showing up at these town halls who are not happy with their representatives and what is happening in the country right now, they're all being paid off.

Yes.

They're all being paid off.

No one's doing this out of their own volition.

No one's doing this because the Trump policies are having a direct impact on their lives.

No, they're all paid winers.

Greg Bach

We have the intelligence on our own live stream comments, quote, they are Democrats and losers.

Jane Matenaer

Oh, OK, good to know.

Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House.

has some comments about the protesters who have been showing up at some of these town halls.

Calvin, can you play that clip, please?

The problem is they're being ambushed right now by what are some, in many cases, paid protesters.

You've got George Soros funded groups.

They're very well organized.

They fill all the seats.

And so the actual constituents of these Republican members can't actually make it into the arenas.

Please show me the

Jane Matenaer

proof of that.

I just want to see one canceled George Soros chick.

Just one.

Just one.

And the memo just says birthday party.

Graduation.

Greg Bach

It's such an old trope.

It's almost like if we weren't dealing with the future of our country, it would be like a movie type of aspect to a plot line.

But when they went in doubt, they always go back to the well of George Soros dipping into his bottomless funds to, to, and also to pay people to either protest or go to town halls.

There are better ways of spending your money.

You know what

Jane Matenaer

I mean?

Take the

Greg Bach

results that you want.

Exactly.

Like he could go in and just, I mean, I'm sure he has his influence in the halls of power, but also just this notion of like, you know how I really want to invest my money?

I want to pay someone one time $50 or whatever to go to a town hall in a library in Wisconsin.

Right.

That's that's worth it.

Jane Matenaer

What a great investment.

Yes, we're big.

He's big on ROI.

Yeah, he's big on the on the return on investment.

And as always with Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, you don't actually need proof.

Never.

You just feel it.

You just you just

Greg Bach

feel it.

Well, you know, voter fraud intuitive.

They knew it.

Jane Matenaer

They know it exists.

They just can't prove it.

Greg Bach

No, no, they don't need to.

They just it's right here.

Jane Matenaer

They know.

Yeah.

They know in the core of their being.

Mark Pokan was on MSNBC recently.

Gavin, let's play that clip from Representative Mark Pokan here from Wisconsin.

Yeah, I did not see any limousines with George Shor's name on them, dropping people off.

We filled the streets with people.

And it was interesting, they came from La Crosse and Potosi and Toma and Platteville, all parts, by the way, not of my district, but of Derek Van Orden's, plus people from that area in my district, the western part of my district.

Again, a lot of people who are very much based in agricultural economy, this is going to hurt them a lot.

At the State of the Union, I brought a farmer who's lost two of his

grants, even though Donald Trump has said no farmers lost grants.

He's living proof that Donald Trump is a liar.

And he also is on Medicaid, his family, just to get by, because farming, especially small farms, is not all that lucrative, but you're helping feed your neighbors.

So people were just, you know, rightfully so very concerned.

And they just want to make sure that we're doing more.

I think that was one of the strongest messages they want Democrats to do exactly what we're doing right now.

And I know some other members are doing is getting into their districts and make them uncomfortable because they want to be

heard and their members won't listen to it.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, they did.

They're just, well, now the head of the NRCC is essentially told Republicans, yeah, don't hold those town halls anymore.

We don't want to do

Greg Bach

that.

But, you know, he did mention that that was Derek Van Orton's.

district.

And you know, Derek Van Orden isn't really big on doing anything for the people there.

And but if you do want to catch him, if you do want to get to him, there will be a dinner.

It's going to cost you Lincoln Day dinner 2025 celebrating 2025 success.

Okay, this Saturday, meet and greet 5pm dinner and program 6pm at the Phoenix Center and Richland Center was only $40.

George Soros, if you're out there, can you, can you spot us?

Maybe a scholarship fund for some people to go and see him?

Cause I'm sure they'd want to ask.

Derek Van Orton, some questions like, hey, what about the farmers?

Hey, how are you helping the farmers?

And also, why were you at January 6th and don't seem to care about it?

I mean, I'll just ask him some basic questions.

Jane Matenaer

Well, he's a very, very brave man, Derek Van Orton.

When he's up against teenagers, you know, when he's up against a teenage librarian or Senate pages.

Or some reporters.

Boy, he is one tough cookie, man.

Greg Bach

I just have a feeling and this isn't me willing into the world.

I just have a feeling there will be some nice piece of video after before or after this program on Saturday because I'll bet you there will be people at this event outside waiting for him like they were waiting for Glenn growthman at his town hall.

I would love to see that happen.

Please if you go send video if you get to ask him a question even better.

I'd love to see his

really mature

Jane Matenaer

response.

His well-reasoned response.

Yeah.

And if you do have a cancel check from George Soros, please, I would love, I would love, love, love to see your cancel check from George Soros that he paid you to go to a town hall to complain.

I just think if this money is so, so much out there, that's always their go-to excuse, we should have lots of folks who have these canceled, who have checks.

50 bucks says there's little kittens on the checks.

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the US and the rest of the world.

And especially the situation in Ukraine.

So stick around for that.

This does affect us here in Wisconsin, even though you may think it doesn't.

Greg Bach

Everything having to do with our international allies affects us in Wisconsin.

We've been talking about this for a year now.

Jane Matenaer

Yes.

And the importance of NATO and all of those things and why that matters and what that means to global supply chains and all those things so we will get into that with Randy Manor after the 1030 news right before we went to the break we were talking about Bernie Sanders big appearance in Kenosha on Friday well over 3,000 people and we had asked if you were there we would love to hear from you still at 855-752-4842 Andrew from Menominee

Texting in, I was at Bernie's Altoona Stop, organizing with Grow, which is grassroots organizing of Western Wisconsin.

The excitement was electric.

People are eager to do something to protect our communities.

That's great, Andrew.

Thank you for sharing that.

We'd love to see your check.

Greg Bach

I was gonna say,

Jane Matenaer

did you?

We'd love to see your canceled check from George Soros.

Greg Bach

It's probably like jury duty, you go and then you have to register and then they send you a check afterwards.

Jane Matenaer

Cause I did just get my check from jury duty.

What was

Greg Bach

that like?

You get like

Jane Matenaer

$2,000?

It was $25.

Yeah,

Greg Bach

maybe

Jane Matenaer

you can see a movie by yourself.

I'm gonna retire now.

Glad that's done.

We did also want to mention however, while we're on the subject, there is a big election in Wisconsin.

Coming up on April 1st correct Wisconsin Supreme Court seat between Brad Schimmel and Susan Crawford We just found out last week from the Marquette University law school poll that a lot of people still have no opinion about either of these candidates Fair enough People have lives people are very involved in other things as you should be it's a spring election Which is not usually a big turnout election.

Yep

There needs to be a big turnout on April 1st for Susan Crawford.

I think it's important that folks know this about Brad Schimmel.

He told a group of canvassers in Waukesha County last weekend he needs to be elected to Wisconsin's Supreme Court to provide a support network for President Trump and also shared complaints about the 2020

election results.

So he's still on that bandwagon.

Although he's not telling it.

I haven't seen him say that on any media outlets.

He does this in smaller groups when he's talking to supporters.

Yes.

I didn't realize it was the job of Wisconsin Supreme Court justices to be a support network for the sitting president.

Greg Bach

You know what?

I want to I'm going to write this down.

Because when Jim Santel comes on the show on Thursday,

I'd like to ask him if a sitting judge who's running for higher office as for the Supreme Court of Wisconsin is saying this, excuse me, is saying this, just an automatic conflict of interest period.

Is it a conflict of interest for certain things?

Because I will bring it up again.

The, the, the opposers of justice Janet protest, say, which lost their minds two years ago because she had said she thought the maps are rigged.

That was it.

So anything, but he is saying he needs to be a support

Jane Matenaer

network

Greg Bach

for Trump.

He has spoken, he has spoken outwardly on the 1849 abortion ban.

Jane Matenaer

He is

Greg Bach

all good.

He has worked to kill the ACA.

So really what you see as a man with nothing but conflict of interest in his outside work.

Why is this being, why is your candidate?

Jane Matenaer

Brett Schimmel, this is from wispolitics.com has repeatedly said he's running for the Supreme Court.

to bring impartiality back to the body at the same time he needs to be elected to the Wisconsin Supreme Court to be a support network for Donald Trump.

But he's going to bring impartiality back to the to the to the court.

Greg Bach

What world am I living in right now?

This is ridiculous.

This is this is this is what we've been talking about with Brad Schemel is

when he goes on, when he goes on upfront and when he goes, his commercials.

And I'm

Jane Matenaer

sure very

Greg Bach

reasonable.

And I'm sure on Wednesday, when he's debating

Jane Matenaer

Susan Crawford,

Greg Bach

he's going to come off as very level, very even keeled, very logical.

But this is not, this is a man, this is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

He is not going to, he's not going to roll with what the people say because the people have said what they wanted.

If abortion comes up, he will rule for the 1849 abortion ban.

Jane Matenaer

And that is

Greg Bach

not what Wisconsin wants, and that is trackable through polling data.

So do not let this man fool you.

He is a wolf in sheep's clothing, and he will rule as a support system of Donald Trump.

Support network bridge.

Support network, which, so to me, sorry I'm gonna throw out my little tin full of hab right now, you say something like a support network, who else?

That's more than one person, then.

Who else is in that network?

Is that other justices in Wisconsin, around the country, the Supreme Court?

What do you mean by network?

That's

Jane Matenaer

a very good question.

Sounds

Greg Bach

like almost like a conspiracy.

No.

Jane Matenaer

No.

Greg Bach

I want there to be a good race, but Brad Schimels is a flawed, flawed candidate.

Jane Matenaer

Share what you know.

Share what you know.

Yeah.

Sure.

What you know.

Greg Bach

You're

Jane Matenaer

right.

I know it seems like a small thing and it feels like spitting in the wind.

But again, we found out last week just how few people are really well versed in these two candidates.

So if it comes up over your brunch, you may just want to point out and we're not making this up.

These are his words.

Yeah.

Brad Schimmel wants to provide a support network for Donald Trump when he is on Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Big, big backer, as you said, of the 1849 abortion ban, which does not, there are no exceptions for rape or incest.

And the restrictions we have now are adversely affecting women's health.

Greg Bach

And we might talk about maybe this week, but an interaction that Cal brought up to us, I just want to say this really quick.

team is saying he is not supported by billionaires.

They're saying he is a grassroots candidate being supported by Wisconsinites, even though the U lines, the Hendricks and Elon Musk are dumping millions of dollars.

Jane Matenaer

These are not.

Greg Bach

These are not.

Jane Matenaer

Grassroots Wisconsinites or your neighbors.

Greg Bach

No,

Jane Matenaer

we have news coming up next.

When we return, retired Major General Randy Manor will be with us.

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Delighted to be joined by our next guest once again.

He has a retired

Major General from the United States Army, Randy Manor is here.

Good morning, Randy.

Thanks so much for making time for us.

Absolutely, Jane.

Good morning, Jane.

Good morning, Greg.

Jane Matenaer

I wish there were less to talk about.

I really do.

Because the last time I emailed you, I said, let's live in less interesting times.

That would be great.

Wouldn't it be?

That would be just to be bored every day.

Let's start with that horrible Oval Office meeting.

between Donald Trump and JD Vance and Marjorie Taylor Greene's boyfriend and Volodymyr Zelensky and I saw a commenter over the weekend say President Zelensky expected to have a meeting in the Oval Office instead he walked into the Kremlin

That's actually a very good way to put it.

It's just shocking how everything is turned up on end that we're now allied with Russia who

has never ever been reliable as a partner ever.

Even during World War II, Winston Churchill and Roosevelt basically were watching him at every turn and only because they were trying to get rid of Hitler, the allies should we say, but it's just shocking that we're not standing up for the concepts of freedom for our friends.

Jane Matenaer

We used to be the standard bears for democracies around the world.

We took it as part of our

mission to encourage democracy's growth around the world to try to make things better.

And apparently we've just abandoned all that and Vladimir is great.

And now we were like, as you said, we are more closely aligned with Russia now.

If you watch any Russian media, they are delighted.

They are delighted by what is coming out of the White House now.

Absolutely.

They cannot believe how lucky they are.

And of course, the sad thing is, is that the rest of the free world.

the way that we define free world, more free, is united against us, whether it's Europe or whether it's Japan, obviously even China.

And of course, Canada.

I have some friends in Canada that are extremely concerned with the insane rhetoric and economic policies on again, off again.

I mean, no offense, I could do a better job of leading this country by putting out decision options on a dartboard and throwing them blindfolded.

and then just repeat, rinse and

Greg Bach

repeat.

And since the last time we've spoken, the narrative that Volodymyr Zelensky is the aggressor and the invader and the starter of wars and a dictator has become the popular rhetoric.

And just this morning I saw, you brought up Canada, who will probably become, who might become the new Prime Minister of Canada, Mark Carney has said flat out in his acceptance speech,

We can no longer trust America.

That's

it.

And by the way, I want to tell you, I wish we had the presidential equivalent of that guy.

That guy is smart, versed, schooled, understands economic policy and the procedure and moving different levers up and down to be able to safeguard and do the very best for the people of Canada.

And no offense to your listeners, we are going to suck.

Everybody is going to find food costs going up at least 10%

this year at least 10% and you heard even the the maggot commentator saying stop talking about the price of eggs.

I remember that was the exact mantra back in October, November.

So we're going to talk about how it impacts the average American about food prices and about job opportunities and our farmers who are going to be hit left and right by all of these

by the world saying, screw America, we are not buying your crap because your president is an idiot and turning everything into this, you know, we're doing a tariff.

Oh, we're not doing a tariff.

Oh, we're gonna do, we have a Republican Senator that complained about the tariffs because of somebody from some business.

Oh, let's turn those tariffs off.

Oh, wait, never mind, let's put them back on again.

Oh, wait, let's double down.

It is absolute insanity.

My three-year-old grandson would do a better job of running this

Jane Matenaer

country.

The justifications by certain members of the media that this is a normal, that this is a normal way to run a country, this is a normal way to deal with the economy, changing your mind from day to day.

And as we mentioned when we first came on the air, because all the stock market gains now from November of if have essentially been wiped out, there is nothing farmers and businesses hate more than uncertainty.

They have to plan ahead.

That's right.

Absolutely.

I deal with a lot of corporations and trying to get their boards and their C-suite officers to be able to focus on what are the challenges and the opportunities under the new administration because there are challenges and there are opportunities.

The reality is it changes almost every day and that basically means whether it's supply chain costs, whether it has to do with employee turnover,

whether it has to do with how do they present themselves to their customers?

Where are they?

All of these things are up in the air and businesses do not like that.

So that's not business friendly whatsoever.

Americans want government to be out of their lives and I'm gonna be clear about this.

We want clean water.

We want clean air.

We want to be safe from international terrorism.

We want our borders to be secure.

What we don't want is for our food costs to go up.

by way more than 10%.

And I'm being conservative in that estimate, by the way.

Jane Matenaer

And we also don't want all of the people who check our food to make sure it's safe get fired.

That seems like a bad idea.

Yeah, you think.

Yeah, true.

So, you know, back to the situation that was mentioned relative to Ukraine, I find it just astounding.

Okay, we're cutting off all intel to the Ukrainians.

So now they are basically blind because

We had a partnership that they could count on us for for so many years during the when Russia invaded them to start.

And now it is literally they they're they're on their own.

The Europeans are trying desperately to be able to fill in the gap.

At the same time, they don't have the intelligence network that we do, meaning the United States military.

And it's just extremely sad.

It's it's going to not go well over there.

The best way to put it.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and essentially by us ending

this intelligence, this sharing of intelligence, we're leaving Ukraine wide open for Putin and Russia,

Greg Bach

right?

And then moving further as they see fit.

They will move the borders over.

They will pause and consolidate.

They will purge the local people, and then they will keep on putting pressure to continue to move toward the West.

Same thing.

I mean, they have a history of doing this, and they will continue to do this.

Greg Bach

It's almost yeah, it's like we didn't learn our lesson the first time this is

Yeah, yeah, I was the first general officer to Go into Russia after they invaded Georgia way back in 2000.

I think it was nine and The reason I was permitted to go by the president at the time was because we we had a treaty with Russia to be able to

inspect their nuclear weapons and for them to inspect ours and to be able to fly over their country in a US aircraft to be able to take pictures and the same thing we would host them to come over and verify by flying a Russian aircraft over our facilities.

In other words, we both watched each other and we verified sitting in the same aircraft and being on the ground.

I was outside of Moscow in a Russian missile base.

And I'm telling you, those days where we trust but verify, well, now we're trusting without verifying crap.

And that's going to not end well for the United States in any part.

of the military confrontation.

Jane Matenaer

If you're just joining us, retired Major General Randy Manor is our guest, and we're talking about the situation with Ukraine.

Now the U.S.

has pulled all of its intelligence sharing, and this does not bode well for the Ukrainian people.

It also, Randy, just does not bode well for us, as we're no longer a reliable ally.

No,

we are.

No, we are quite frankly, not only are we unreliable,

We are, quite frankly, the enemy.

We are the enemy of the Canadians.

The anger and frustration from our neighbors to the north is sadly well deserved.

It's just appalling what we are doing to our friends, all because we have a schoolyard bully running our country.

If the president was in a local school and he was 10 years old, his parents would be called every single day with the activities that he would be doing.

it would not be tolerated.

And I appeal to all the parents that are out there, would you allow your child to act like this?

The answer is no, you would not.

And you would not tolerate another child bullying your own in that same fashion.

This is inexcusable behavior, not commensurate with that, which we expect of our senior elected leaders to hold, or any elected leaders

Greg Bach

without that.

I completely agree with you, Randy.

100%.

I just feel like now is the day where I see so many videos of, of children and adults celebrating their own, uh, terrible behavior.

So I feel like they're almost, it's, it's a reflection of who's in charge of this, this thing of saying, well, we do whatever we want.

Cause we're America.

You don't like it.

Well, you can just get out.

That's our whole thing.

Just get out.

And that's where we live now.

And that's the unfortunate thing.

And I don't disagree with you, Randy.

I do think your three year old grand kid could run it better.

Jane Matenaer

I think folks are missing as well, Randy.

The economic impacts that things like this, maybe you're not seeing it today, but we're going to see it.

And if the United States, which Donald Trump, I believe, still wants to withdraw from NATO, one of the reasons America has had so many decades of prosperity is largely due to NATO policing the rest of the world and all of us so that

Supply chains can run and we can make trade agreements and all of those things, right?

Right as I mentioned to you before because of these tariffs and the uncertainty of the tariffs on again off again This is not only causing direct harm to American businesses It's ending relationships business relationships with other countries who say I can't count on the US I've got to find a secondary supply chain

to take care of my manufacturing.

And once they find those supply chains, they're not coming back because you want a reliable partner.

Just think about it in your local community.

If someone's providing you with produce or with food to your store or with parts, you want to know that it's not going to be, oh, we're charging you 25% more today.

Oh, actually, we don't have any for you because we don't like you.

Oh, wait a minute.

Wait, what?

I'm going to go for somewhere else and

Greg Bach

I'm

going to find

Greg Bach

this.

They're eventually going to stop trusting us and they're eventually going to just, we're going to be dried up and we can't provide for each other.

We need to have those import-export relationships.

Absolutely.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah.

Well, and we had talked to, we have the head of the Wisconsin Farmers Union on once a month now.

And the last time we did this trade war and these tariffs under the first Trump administration, the soybean market was permanently altered because of that.

Because countries that used to import our soybeans decided, as you said, we can't trust you.

We can't rely on you.

We're going to go to Brazil.

Exactly.

I think when this is all very evidence, by the way, very sad that the Republican National Committee put out the word to all of its national leaders to say, stop doing in-person town halls because of those nasty Democrats are breaking them up.

Well, let me just be clear about this.

The people have the right to speak.

Respectfully and according to the rules, the Republicans are basically saying screw you guys.

We don't want to hear from anybody.

Jane Matenaer

We're going to continue our conversation with Randy Manor, retired Major General for the United States Army.

Stay with us.

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We'll be right back.

Good good morning.

Welcome back to Matt and air on air Jane Matt and air Greg Bach Calvin air on the board committee from our studio here at radio park in Racine You can join us caller text at 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook YouTube and what used to be Twitter We are joined by retired Major General Randy Manor with the US Army talking about Donald Trump and

NATO and Ukraine and tariffs and we had one person saying well you know other countries tariff us aren't we just you know isn't this fair?

I

think the bottom line is that tariffs are something that should be used very judiciously and very carefully for specific industries for specific countries for specific durations of time to make points particularly whenever a country is trying to undercut our

prices whenever the government of that country subsidizes them to quite frankly to grab more market share.

So it's something where specific tariffs can serve your country well to do them, including the United States, blanket ones that go on again, off again, and very, very

Jane Matenaer

well

thought through, then that does not serve anybody well.

And in fact, we're finding

I mean, even the Kentucky bourbon manufacturers are in shock that, oh my goodness, Canada just put a tariff on that because Trump put it on them.

And of course, the Canadians are smart.

They just took all the US products off the shelf.

Don't even sell them.

Forget the idea of 25% tariff.

Yep.

Jane Matenaer

George on the live stream says, we finally have a president who's looking after the USA.

Randy, how is Donald Trump looking after the USA?

Do you need a moment to laugh?

100% not looking after the USA.

Looking after the USA is taking care of our American citizens to provide good jobs, low cost of fuel and food, and to maintain safe environments.

He is putting us at greater risk.

And guess what?

All the people who feel that way are going to find out in the next six to 12 months

These are good.

The paychecks are going to get smaller and smaller in terms of buying power.

So I basically say, burn it to the ground.

It's all going to we'll see what happens.

Jane Matenaer

And someone else accused you of being a warmonger.

Democrats are all warmongers.

Oh, and fearmongering or fearmongering, too.

Yes.

Actually, I'm not warmongering anything.

I'm not I'm not saying that I'm saying that what we are doing is the president is actually harming.

the average American person, particularly in red districts that are heavily dependent upon farming and manufacturing.

And by the way, people don't realize, I wrote an article for the Wall Street Journal that was published in October of last year talking about how Trump was politicizing FEMA and everything.

He has threatened to, not threatened, he stated he's going to cut all subsidies to all the states for emergency response.

Most states do not realize that 95% plus or minus a few points of their state emergency response offices are funded by the federal government.

Well, you know what?

Blue states, no problems.

They have the money on average to pay for these.

Many red states other than Texas don't have the extra funds.

So, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, Georgia.

don't have the excess funds to take care of their citizens whenever hurricanes or tornadoes or forest fires come in.

So my perspective is, let's just see, we're going to let everything play out.

and see if you are in a better state by the end of this calendar year or not.

Jane Matenaer

Well and the other thing I think that people are forgetting when we talk about Medicare and or not Medicare but Medicaid and who is on Medicaid a lot of folks in rural areas take advantage of Medicaid because that's they are in that situation and a lot of folks who are in the agricultural industry are on Medicaid.

Well the sad news is I am I am absolutely positively a fiscal conservative.

I believe that we should have only enough government to get by.

The government obviously should be more effective and efficient.

However, at the same time, the arbitrary firing of people, the getting rid of the pipeline of people who were hired under the past six to 12 months will absolutely impact people who are looking at getting Medicare, looking at Social Security, and looking also by the way for veterans.

There is no way

at all that you could reduce the workforce substantially the way that is happening right now without introducing automated tools to do it.

Well, guess what?

Automated tools take anywhere between six months to two years to put into place.

They're not coming.

So what does this mean?

And again, for any person who is going to be applying for Medicare, applying for Social Security, applying for veterans benefits, or have an issue with them,

In the next eight months, you're going to find longer wait times, slower responses, and it's all going to be because the Trump has said, you know what, we don't care about the average person, we are going to hack and slash the workforce rather than thoughtfully figure out how to make the government more effective and efficient.

So again, people from red counties and red districts voted for it, and I

want them all to deal with the consequences that will be happening by the end of the year.

It's not today.

And by the way, everything that I said in that Wall Street article, Wall Street Journal article, has come true.

So for the people who don't believe it, they just have to look backwards in time and look at where are we today.

And then the same thing applies.

Where are we going to be in six

Greg Bach

months

into this calendar year?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Greg Bach

I just want to say really quick to the fear-mongering text, too.

They said that Canada has 250% tariffs on dairy.

That's actually only if the Trump tariffs kick in.

That'll happen.

So there's the context and not fear-mongering.

Jane Matenaer

Randy Manners, thank you so very much for your time.

Retired Major General with the United States Army.

We will talk to you probably in about a month.

Things go well.

I'll never see you again.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you.

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