To Boycott Or Not To Boycott (Hour 1)

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To Boycott Or Not To Boycott (Hour 1)

Matenaer on Air · Fri Mar 7, 2025

Jane Matenaer

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Wanted to start off with this, and I am very genuinely curious.

This is from the Milwaukee Journal.

Sentinel 40-day boycott of Target begins this week.

Here's what Wisconsinites should know about it.

And I had been seeing this on social media at least the last two weeks that this was coming.

And I am curious.

Do you take part in boycotts like this?

Do you think it's effective?

Greg Bach

Yeah

Jane Matenaer

8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 if you'd like to weigh in on this a 40-day target boycott kicked off on Wednesday protesting a target rolling back its DEI initiatives just after a nationwide 24-hour economic blackouts of major companies several including Walmart Lowe's and Metta

have reversed their DEI initiatives in recent months.

Some had already been rolling back efforts even before Donald Trump got back in office.

This latest boycott has been organized by a pastor in Atlanta and other faith leaders.

They're telling consumers not to buy anything from Target for 40 days, also the duration of Lent, which began with Ash Wednesday on Wednesday.

The website, according to the initiative's website, it's also asking people who are invested to sell any target stock that you might own.

Do you think this is effective?

Do you think this makes a difference to these companies?

Greg Bach

I think one day when they do the blackout days.

Jane Matenaer

The one

Greg Bach

day blackout?

I don't know because honestly, like I think what happens is a lot of people, they might say, yeah, I'm not going to do it.

And then within the week, they'll go to one of these places because there's so many of them.

There's so much ingrained into our lives.

And with a 40 in my fear and you want to boycott boycott and I understand why I believe in DEI and I'm going to post a Forbes article that lists all the companies.

So if it's target, then you should be including all the other ones, which include things like Disney, right?

Let's say 40 days happens.

There's a boycott.

It causes a great deal of strife for the company and, you know, stock prices, tank, things happen.

My only fear is that the adjustments they're going to have to make are going to affect the people at the bottom.

They're not going to be adjusting the CEO salary.

They're not going to be firing high, high executives.

They're going to be, they're going to be, you know, freezing.

maybe doing hiring freezes, maybe doing wage increase, like raise freezes, or just letting go of employees.

That's not to tell you to do it or not do it.

That is just my fear of a boycott like this.

What are the repercussions and who really is affected?

It's not Steven J. Target in Minnesota.

It's the lady who works at Target in Hibbing, Minnesota, who's doing this as a supplementary job to pay for, I don't know.

her medical supplies.

Jane Matenaer

That's a good point, because there will be fallout from this.

And as you say, it just seems like a pretty, it's a rarity when CEOs say, you know what, I'm going to take a pay cut.

I need to take a pay cut.

Yeah, that trying to think is that ever happened.

855-752-4842 boy cuts.

Do they work?

Do you take part?

What do you think about that, Sue, from Franklin?

We took part last Friday.

Any information on the impact of that day?

I don't have it at the tip of my fingertips, Sue.

I will take a look for it.

Brian from Milwaukee texting in, yes, I do take part in boycotts.

It's another form of protest to let our voices be heard.

I guess the one thing I think about this, though, is you need to have a certain amount

of economic stability in order to do that.

You know what I mean?

You need to be in a certain place financially where you can choose to skip these places and go somewhere else.

And not everybody has that flexibility.

Greg Bach

Well, like if I'm not going to Target, I can go to, I mean, if it's a Target blackout, I can go to Amazon.

If it's a, I'm looking at a Walmart blackout, I'll go to pick and save for groceries.

These there's not to say there isn't there isn't there isn't validity in having these sorts of actions happening.

I think actions are important, but What about the afterwards?

What about a year from now?

Jane Matenaer

What

Greg Bach

about, you know Winter of 2026 after this is all happened.

What is what what

Jane Matenaer

will we be?

Greg Bach

Where will it be?

What has been accomplished?

And if it's good, then how do you make?

How do you do more than how does it?

grow this into something bigger to really tell these corporations something.

Cause I'm all for it.

I'm all for telling corporations, Hey, there's more of us than there are of you, but we tend to, as a people in this country to say, yeah, raise our fists in the air.

And then in a week, two weeks, a month, six months, I gotta run a target

Jane Matenaer

really quick.

It's

Greg Bach

inconvenient.

It's inconvenient.

Oh, remember when we did that thing?

Oh my gosh, that was so cool.

But then you're going back there because you need something.

And it's like, well, I need it.

I gotta go to Walmart because there's a thing there and I know exactly what I'm running late.

Understandable.

We're all busy.

So I guess for me, I would love to know the plan,

Jane Matenaer

the whole plan.

The long-term plan.

Greg Bach

Exactly.

Jane Matenaer

If you're just joining us, we're talking about this 40-day boycott of Target that began on Wednesday.

If you're on social media and I think most of us are in some form or another, you have probably seen this kicked around.

Also, Amazon.

is the next one that is also being slated.

The People's Union expanding its boycotts to include boycotts of Amazon March 7th through the 14th, Nestle March 21st through the 28th, and Walmart April 7th through the 14th, and a second broader one-day economic blackout.

is slated for April 18th.

Now again, if not everyone is going to be aware of this, not everyone's going to be able to take part in this.

And again, I go back to people who are on the lower end of the financial scale, they just don't have the option.

Walmart is probably the place to go for mostly the cheapest that you can find.

A gallon

Greg Bach

of milk right now, Walmart in Wisconsin is the cheapest place to find a gallon of milk.

So I understand if some people can't take part

Jane Matenaer

or

Greg Bach

they say, look, my family eating is more important than

anything else.

And I don't want to harsh anyone's mellow or getting anyone's buzz on like sticking it to the man.

But like for me personally, there has to be a longterm plan.

What's next after you boycott target for 40

Jane Matenaer

days,

Greg Bach

then what, what are they going to do in, I don't want to say retaliation, but what is going to be their next step?

If they lose significant market share, or if they lose a lot of money or whatever that may be, because it ain't going to be the

Jane Matenaer

CEO.

who's in trouble.

That's a really good point, Greg.

It is.

That's an excellent point.

And if they lose enough money over these 40 days, do we want to see targets closing?

And all of the people who work at that target that are negatively affected.

Mary from Tosa texting in kudos to Costco for its support of DVI, the boycott of Target and like companies, gives people an opportunity to protest.

And I know that I think Costco's membership has jumped quite considerably.

since this all came down.

Greg Bach

Really?

Jane Matenaer

Oh, yeah, because they kept, they very specifically told their shareholders, we're not getting rid of our DEI.

I thought you meant the cost of their memories.

Oh, no, no,

Greg Bach

no.

Oh, no.

I mean, that's the thing is Costco is legendary for their, their takes.

Their CEO, the former CEO, he is a fireball of energy and human.

I mean, like just the hot dog.

Let's look up.

Costco hot dog price range and it's a story that I can't repeat on the air.

Oh my but it's it was them just being vehemently in favor of you know promoting from inside Education helping the people giving back when they can and doing things like this like DEI, which is you know, it ain't the devil It ain't the devil

Jane Matenaer

folks

855-752-4842.

If you would like to join our conversation, Robert from West Alice, I take part.

I haven't shopped at Walmart, Hobby Lobby or Chick-fil-A for years.

Robert West Alice though, I won't stop shopping at Target.

They're the only real competition to Amazon.

Greg Bach

Understandable.

Understandable completely.

I don't shop at Walmart.

I think in the past, I think in maybe the past 20 years, I've shopped there twice.

I don't go, well, Hobby Lobby, I don't need to go to, and

Jane Matenaer

let me just say,

Greg Bach

at a personal Chick-fil-A, overrated, it's fine.

Jane Matenaer

Thank you.

I went there once.

It's a chicken sandwich.

It's a fine chicken sandwich.

Greg Bach

It's fine in a pinch, but man, there doesn't need to be two drive-through lines, and there don't need to be 50 cars, and an army of people outside taking orders, it's a chicken sandwich.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah, I expected the first time that I went to Chick-fil-A that it was gonna be the chicken sandwich that changed the course of my life.

That didn't happen.

Maybe I need another one.

Greg Bach

They just don't want to make sure that...

the gays get

Jane Matenaer

married.

Well, it's priorities.

And from Chippewa Falls, I see you on the line.

We are up against the break.

We will take you when we return.

Boycotts, yes or no.

Do they work?

Will you take part?

You're listening to Matt Nair on air.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Don't call us.

We don't want to hear from you.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

Some lawmakers not happy their constituents are checking in with them.

Yeah, I'm shocked.

I'm shocked We'll kick that around after the 1030 news right now though We are talking about this nationwide boycott of target a 40-day target boycott kicked off on Wednesday to protest the company rolling back its DEI programs and our question to you is Will you take part in this?

Do you think it's effective or do you not care?

Don't think it makes any difference.

Does it matter?

Does it matter?

Does it affect these companies eventually?

What

Greg Bach

would you like to see

Jane Matenaer

come out of this?

Absolutely.

And from Chippewa Falls has been very patient waiting to get on the line here.

Good morning and thanks for joining us.

Good morning.

Yes, I do participate in those blackouts, but I basically buy local like I'll buy from the food co-ops or I'll buy from Woodman because it's employee owned.

But my daughter works for Target.

She's a packaging engineer there.

And that kind of scares me because she's a new employee.

And, you know, they're going to probably cut those people, not the people that really need to be cut, like the big CEOs that are spending a ton of money.

So I'm kind of with Greg on that.

I just don't know if it's going to hurt the working people or it really will hurt the CEOs.

That's kind of where I stand with it.

Jane Matenaer

That's a great point, and it really is.

And I think that's a very valid point as far as who is going to bear the fallout of this.

Because again, I am waiting for the day when I see a CEO stand up in front of a microphone and say, you know what, you guys, really, I'm getting paid way too much.

Greg Bach

I'm waiting for the day where a CEO or higher-up employees, executives,

are fired without a golden parachute.

That's the thing too.

Jane Matenaer

Even when they do a lousy

Greg Bach

job, here's

Jane Matenaer

your parting gift on the way out.

Greg Bach

I don't want to see people lose money.

I don't want to see people lose jobs.

I don't want to see Ann's daughter lose her job if she's the new person on the shift.

And I think that it's important to raise your voice.

I just feel like such a stick in the mud for this, but I want to see an action plan beyond 40 days.

I want to see what's the, you know, are you trying to get them to reinstate DEI?

If that's the case, all right, great.

If they do that, then, you know, you call- But what is your end goal?

Yeah.

What's the end goal?

What is the end goal?

Like that is the, that is, you know, cause I just have a feeling, call me whatever you'd like and people have called me many things.

Target can outweigh you.

Jane Matenaer

I think they have enough in reserves.

Greg Bach

Yeah, they're, they're very popular.

They're kind of all over the place.

Jane Matenaer

Christine from Slinger, listening on WAUK, texting in.

Hi, Jane and Greg.

Go to a protest.

Listen to the people there.

They are angry, scared and feel helpless.

I understand that, Christine.

Absolutely.

But again, I guess our question is, is this effective?

What do we want to see happen from this?

Greg Bach

Yeah.

And this is me asking in the most respectful, innocent way.

How is a blackout going to quell the anger, the fear that people at the protests feel?

Because I'm an American living in this country too, and I don't own a giant boat.

I don't have influence in Congress.

I'm nervous about what's happening every day in this country.

And what I think is that we as a people need to raise our voices when we can, but we also need to raise our voices at our leadership.

And right now our leadership, whether it's on the right or the left, whether it's on the right,

just lockstep with the current president, or it's the left who is consistently letting the people down with ping pong paddles and signs.

And there's a lot of disagreement about that too.

Jane Matenaer

Yes.

Greg Bach

On

Jane Matenaer

how the Democrats should be handling all of this.

Greg Bach

Exactly.

So I guess that my point is, is like we can raise our voices and keep our dollars away from these companies, but we also still need to be raising our voices at the people who make the laws that affect us.

Jane Matenaer

And we're to talk about that.

After the 1030 news, uh, Joshua, Joshua from Wausau, listening on WXCO.

My 13 year old daughter loves Chick-fil-A.

One of their mobile trucks came to Wausau recently.

It was about 20 degrees.

I said to a woman next to me, I can't believe we're standing out here for a chicken sandwich.

And she said to me, yes, but it's the Lord's chicken.

I guess I never took that into account.

The Lord is a chicken coop.

Oh my gosh.

How much are his ex?

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

We're talking boycotts.

Do they work?

Is this effective?

And what should the end goal be?

Eric from Milwaukee is on the line.

Good morning, Eric.

Thanks so much for joining us.

Yeah, I think if you want to send a message, you don't want to be one of those people standing on the sidelines where people are trying to do something to fight back.

And you say, well, I don't know.

I don't know.

I mean, the point you made before, they have a lot in reserve.

If they start to see dips and the number of people that are shopping there, I'm sure they'll make adjustments.

But, you know, these are the people that are starting to fight back now.

We all complain about the Democrats doing nothing.

Here is somebody doing something.

Don't just stand on the sideline, be lily-livered.

You know, say, OK, you know, let's do this.

There are other places you can go.

You know, I think we're just so coddled in this country sometimes.

a minor inconvenience.

Let's shop someplace else for a couple of weeks and let's see if it has an impact.

Maybe it will work.

Maybe it won't, but don't just stand on the sidelines and criticize the people that are doing something.

Jane Matenaer

That's my thing.

Appreciate it, Eric.

Thank you very much.

People are very frustrated and angry and frightened as Christine pointed out, and they want to do something.

They want to put this energy and this fear and this frustration into some direction.

Yeah.

And I totally get

Greg Bach

that.

I absolutely get it too.

I absolutely get it.

For me, if it's, if it's about getting these companies to reinstate DEI programs, that's great.

I believe in DEI programs.

I think they're important.

I don't think there, there's nothing evil about them.

Sorry, Robin boss.

But the point is, is, is for me, these, I still have, I still have questions and I, you know, I still have concerns about them.

So once again, I concur, I agree, I support all those things, but.

I, you know, we need to answer those questions as well, because if, if Target loses, if Walmart went on, they can take it out on their employees.

Jane Matenaer

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Greg Bach

Jane, that's not the only thing that's happening in and around Milwaukee when it comes to elected officials.

Our good friend, Mr. Derek Von Orton.

Van Orton is going to be doing a meet and greet on Saturday March the 15th at 5 p.m.

At the Phoenix Center in Richland Center, Wisconsin Todd all this hometown Todd all was hometown and folks if you want to go you simply get yourself $40 and you pay for tickets and you contact of the the the GOP there in Richland County and they'll put you on the list

a measly $40 for the, the honor, honor, the privilege, privilege of seeing Derek van Borden, Derek van Orden.

You may have seen him in such places like Congress, outside of the Capitol on January 6th, the stair, the staircase of the Capitol yelling at reporters.

He's all over the place folks.

He's everywhere.

But if you've got $40 just burning a hole in your pocket, March the 15th, meet and greet.

Phoenix Center and Richland Center of Wisconsin.

Get your tickets now before they're gone.

Jane Matenaer

Our elected official.

All you have to do is pay to see him.

Exactly.

So nice.

Two Jacksons.

Just 80 bucks for two people.

Come on.

Oh, that's a date, my friends.

Why not?

That's the only time you're ever going to get a chance to see him.

Oh,

Greg Bach

my gosh.

Make sure you ask him lots of questions in rapid succession.

Jane Matenaer

I'm sure that will be really welcomed.

Oh, yeah.

This kind of jumped out at me when I saw this pass along my social media feed yesterday.

prefers people do not call his office.

I bet you do.

Yeah.

According to WCPT820, Representative Bill Huzinga of Michigan is tired of his office phone ringing with calls from angry people who live in Michigan.

He's from Michigan.

He recently told a Kalamazoo based CVS affiliate that he quote,

prefers people do not call his office, unquote.

That should be put on a plaque and distributed to many, many, many of our lawmakers.

We'd rather you not call.

We'd rather you not call.

Or yes, call us.

We'll

Greg Bach

ignore you.

Yeah.

Leave a message at the tone.

Mr.

Jane Matenaer

Huzinga.

elected Republican for Michigan.

That's not a

Greg Bach

real last

Jane Matenaer

name, come on.

He prefers constituents go through his website.

Don't call his office, go to his website, and to be fair, they want people's addresses to be legitimized to confirm this is coming from people who live, who are his constituents.

Okay, I'll give you that.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

They genuinely do not care if people from Wisconsin are ticked off in Michigan.

Gotcha, right.

Greg Bach

Well, no, they're gonna they're going to they're going to pay more attention to

Jane Matenaer

their cons one would hope

Greg Bach

that's absolutely fine and I Jane just putting it out there Believe in the civic media app to bring people the news all across the land So if there's someone living in say Portage, Michigan or Holland, Michigan, who's represented by mr. Huzenga

Um, you just, you feel free to call 202-225-4401 because frankly we've all gone to websites that say contact me.

You sent it into the vacuum of that website.

Into the, into the black hole.

Nothing else happens.

Jane Matenaer

So

Greg Bach

no, no, sir.

You are responsible for listening to your constituents.

Actually you're.

your interns are actually.

Jane Matenaer

You're

Greg Bach

not the ones answering the phone.

Jane Matenaer

And I think it's important that we remind folks of that too, because we always encourage people to call.

Absolutely.

Our elected representatives here in Wisconsin.

If you want to bother somebody else out of state, you can do that.

But again, they're going to kind of discount you.

Yeah, exactly.

So I would prefer to see us keep our energies focused in Wisconsin or wherever you live, wherever you're listening to civic media.

Exactly.

Greg Bach

And if you live and you're represented by him, I mean, I've got the website right here.

It's contact.

There's three phone numbers.

It's great.

Jane Matenaer

Um, yeah.

So, uh, at least in this case, representative Bill Huzinga of Michigan, he would prefer people not call his office.

So that because I'm a bad person, if I lived in Michigan and I were his constituent.

Yeah.

That would kind of encourage me to call it.

Greg Bach

Oh, absolutely.

I would call.

I would call me like, Hey, is Bill there?

I just wanted to say anything.

Jane Matenaer

Okay.

As I'm worried.

Yeah.

We're worried about representative Huizinga.

Greg Bach

I'm very worried about representative Huizinga.

Is Doge there?

Are they like, are they, are they there trying to cut jobs there too?

I'm just trying to figure out

Jane Matenaer

how you do it, Bill.

I hope he still has

Greg Bach

his

Jane Matenaer

job.

Greg Bach

So if you live in the western part of South Michigan, the fourth district, give a

Jane Matenaer

call.

Call him and let him know you're concerned.

Exactly.

855-752-4842.

That's our number.

Cornell from, yes.

Cornell from Merrill is on the line.

Good morning, Cornell.

Thank you so much for joining us.

What do you want to say?

Thank you.

Thank you for taking my call.

Well, the shimmer adds what I'm upset about is why are they using sheriffs?

He's using sheriffs in his ads.

I really don't think that's right because

The sheriffs are paid by the taxpayers.

Jane Matenaer

I'm pretty sure Cornell, they're not supposed to do that.

You're talking about Brad Schimel being surrounded by law enforcement officers in uniform.

I'm fairly certain no one is supposed to do that.

But and correct me if I'm wrong, I believe Susan Crawford has also done that.

Greg Bach

Yeah, I don't

Jane Matenaer

think and I think that standard as so many that standard has been thrown out the window.

Greg Bach

Yeah, I mean, these are these.

I think Dan Schaefer put it.

best couple of weeks ago.

It's nonpartisan in name only.

I will mention though, when it comes to the Brad Schimel ads with the law enforcement officers, if you look it up, one of those law enforcement officers is in some hot water.

Jane Matenaer

And

Greg Bach

the Schimel ad has not come down.

That guy's still standing next to

Jane Matenaer

him.

So.

But again, that takes another level of people being willing to research it further.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

And as we found out from this Marquette University Law School poll that came out yesterday that we're going to talk more about with Dan Schaefer, a lot of people don't even know who these two people are, Brad Schimmel or Susan Crawford.

So expecting them to go that extra mile to look into who's endorsing these candidates and find out more of their backgrounds, that's a big ass.

Greg Bach

But that is where we asked the listeners right now and Jane brought it up yesterday and we've talked about it in the past.

Have a conversation with your friends, share what you know.

I don't expect anyone to vote for a person because we're saying we like them or dislike them.

All I'm saying is what we're doing here right now is giving you information and context.

Take this information, talk to your friends, help them make a best informed decision for themselves.

If your politics are what Brad Schimel is pushing, then I understand.

I get it.

I don't like it.

share what you know, talk to your friends.

It makes a huge, huge difference.

Jane Matenaer

It really does.

855-752-4842.

Bill from Account & Walk is on the line.

Good morning, Bill.

Thanks so much for joining us.

What have you got?

Well, I got to thank you guys for making the awareness.

of calling your elected officials.

I've been doing that for years.

And surprisingly, I had one.

I don't know.

I think it might have been Robin Boss.

He had an intern that answered the phone, and we had a decent discussion.

I wouldn't believe that they went, you know, half.

Now, whether that got to Robin or not, I could care less.

The point is,

The more we challenge these people, including you were talking about Brad Shifty Schimmel, if we call his offices for election and say, well, what about this?

What about this baggage that Brad carries with him?

Would you like to comment on it?

That gets back to people.

That gets back to him.

We're getting all this negative stuff, even on a campaign.

You guys have shown Wisconsin.

This is how we deal with this insanity.

I had a guy call me just this today, big Republican.

He says, well, how do you like things now?

And I said, I tell you what, I got a 32 ounce slurpee, a tub of popcorn, and I'm watching your chaos every day.

It's enlightening.

Jane Matenaer

What did he say to that?

What did he say to that Bill?

He hung

Jane Matenaer

up.

He hung

up.

I thought there were particles in my ears.

Greg Bach

Well, Bill, thank you very much for those kind words.

We really appreciate it because, you know, we can't see all your faces.

We don't know everyone we're talking to and we're hoping that we're at least at the very, at the very least of it all, getting through to people that being informed is important and then sharing that information with others, others as important.

Beyond that, it's kind of up to y'all and we hope you to get out there and vote.

and talk to people and show them how this from, from the DPI race to the judges race for the Supreme court, to questions on the constitution of Wisconsin, to Senate, to Congress, it all affects you, especially those, especially those Aldermanic and county supervisors.

Jane Matenaer

Absolutely.

It's all really.

It is.

It's all really important.

And I know we're all tired of hearing that.

And it's the most important election of our lifetimes.

Sometimes I'm tired of saying it, Jane.

But it is.

855-752-4842 talking about, don't call us.

We're going to ignore you.

A swing state Republican in Michigan, Representative Bill Huizenga, is tired of his office phone ringing with calls from angry Michiganders.

He quotes,

prefers people do not call his office, unquote.

Again, there is validity to that.

If they are inundated with people who are not their constituents, they're going to discount those.

And so he wants people to go to his website so they could check your address and make sure you're a constituent.

And I get that.

But I still find some more twisted pleasure in the fact that we all have phones.

I almost did yesterday.

I almost called a Democratic lawmaker in Florida.

I mean, okay.

But it's like, you know, again, he doesn't have to respond to me.

He doesn't care.

Greg Bach

He doesn't have to respond to you.

But if you're going to take the time to call elected official in another state, another district, there is, you're showing your concern to like, you're reaching out to them for a reason and you're showing their concern and they can't help you because they don't rep you, but they can listen to your point.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and Bill just said, I mean, even here in Wisconsin actually had a very good conversation with again, these are primarily interns lower level people who are answering these phones, which is why we always ask you to be respectful and don't swear and don't curse at the kids.

They're on the front lines, but they're not the ones who are making these decisions.

So please, please be nice.

And if you are inspired, say to call.

You can always go to myvote.wi.gov.

And all you have to do is put in your address and all of the elected officials who represent you come up and their phone numbers.

It's nice.

Greg Bach

It's convenient.

Jane Matenaer

It is convenient.

So even if they don't want to hear from us, we want you to hear from us.

I am a public servant.

Who don't you want calling?

I don't want the public calling me.

And don't forget, and I'm thinking about this, next Saturday meet and greet with Derek Van Orden.

It's going to cost you 40 bucks per person, but oh, I think it could be so, so worth it.

We'll include this in our show notes in case you would like to go.

It could be fun.

Let's have a

Greg Bach

group.

Well, I mean, I want to get a bunch of, um, uh, Marxist agitators and pay them to protest because that's what I do.

I pay protest.

Oh, I'm like the George Soros of Kenosha.

Jane Matenaer

All that money.

Greg Bach

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Jane Matenaer

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Jane Matenaer

Good morning.

Welcome back to Matt and Air on Air.

Jane Matt and Air.

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We were talking about contacting our elected officials.

and letting them know what you think.

And I had forgotten about this until Sue from Franklin texted it in and thank you so much for reminding me.

If you would like to call one of your representatives and you feel like you get a little tongue tied and you don't want to be that way, there's an app called Five Calls.

And my sister Suzanne had talked about this not too long ago and they actually provide scripts for you.

So if you want to make a call,

and you don't feel maybe like you're going to eat a lot of it you get nervous you know you have a lot of points you want to make and then you get excited or you get nervous and

you might

Jane Matenaer

forget so this is a this is a resource that you may want to check out we can include this in our show notes after the show is over the app is called five calls if you would like to contact one of your representatives and again we do encourage you to be respectful

Greg Bach

Absolutely.

Always be respectful, please.

Jane Matenaer

Ali from the North Woods is on the line.

Good morning, Ali.

Thanks so much for joining us.

What's going on?

Hi.

I have three quick points to make.

The first point is when I'm talking to family members or my grandkids especially, I try to make sure that they're informed about the candidate and make sure that they

remember to vote, but I always tell them, I can't tell you how to vote, but here's what I know about each person.

Good for you.

Yeah.

And I do that with anybody I talk to.

And then also I've made several calls to representatives here in Wisconsin.

I've had a

real good response from one and a real bad response from another.

I'll talk about the good or the bad response first.

I called Ron Johnson's office and it first got on with a very nice lady and we were having a conversation and she started talking about, well, the people voted for him.

He has a mandate, and I said, well, I don't think the people voted for Elon Musk.

And right then and there, her phone clicked.

Jane Matenaer

She hung up on you?

She hung up on me.

What?

Well, I thought so.

No, I thought so.

But within seconds, a gentleman came on the phone.

And I used that lightly.

Uh-oh.

Believe me.

Because he was the rudest

most condescending person to me that I have ever met my whole 70-some-year life.

He first of said, well, you're a Democrat.

And I said, first off, you have no idea who I voted for.

I said, I am a Wisconsin voter.

And that's all I've said.

And I said, you know,

We voted for, people voted for more than just Trump and he said, well, he had a mandate and I said, well, nowhere in his election campaigns that I saw didn't say that he was going to have Elon Musk as his

Jane Matenaer

co-president.

Yeah.

Thank you so much, Ali.

Appreciate it.

And I'm sorry that you had that experience.

That's really shameful.

Greg Bach

I mean, really, when it comes down to it, it sounds like the person she talked to was, in fact, Ron Johnson.

Honestly, what Ron Johnson does, he steals the narrative.

He steps on people's voices and he says, you're a Democrat.

You don't know what you're talking about.

That's a constituent.

Jane Matenaer

Aren't they supposed to be there for all of us?

Even if we didn't vote for you, you still represent the state that we all live in.

Are you only addressing concerns from Republicans?

Yeah, I mean

Greg Bach

that

Jane Matenaer

doesn't seem very American to me and I want George on the live stream George

on the live stream says

Jane Matenaer

how about this concept we elect folks and let them do what they do and not Micro manage them.

I don't know is calling our elected representatives and expressing our

unhappiness with their job.

That's micromanaging.

Greg Bach

I don't know.

Tell me if this sounds like micromanaging.

You have your little Minion Bros send out emails to all federal employees saying, what is five things you did this week?

Tell me that's not micromanaging.

As you say, change my mind.

That's

Jane Matenaer

our...

That's our right as a citizen.

Yeah.

Is to contact our elected representatives and let them know whether or not we think they're doing a good job.

Greg Bach

This guy in the live room sounds like he doesn't like freedom.

Jane Matenaer

I just makes me kind of

Greg Bach

want to make calls.

Also to counteract Mr. Guy, Elon is not their boss.

Elon's not in charge of them.

Elon's not in charge of the federal employees.

He's, no.

Not at all.

From what Donald Trump has said, he's not even in charge of Doge.

Yeah, he's an unelected dude with a chainsaw and other problems.

So nice try.

I wish you believed in freedom, George.

Jane Matenaer

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