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Good morning, Dan.
How you doing?
Good morning, Jane.
It's Friday.
We got a little light snow falling here in Racine, but all is good where it's going to be a beautiful weekend.
By the way, we have incredible weather coming up this weekend, so I hope you can get out and enjoy it.
But we wanted to start off with talking about the Market University Law School poll that came out yesterday.
And we talk about this frequently.
We live in kind of a different world because we are so involved in the news and so involved in staying up on things.
And we kind of look at other people like, what do you mean you don't know that?
But there are a lot of people have lives and they have children and they have elderly parents and jobs and all those things.
So it shouldn't be a surprise that not everyone is as well informed as they could be, let's say.
I think that was one of the main takeaways from a big picture standpoint from the poll.
It was the first poll of 2025, first poll of the Wisconsin Supreme Court and state superintendent races that are going to be on the April 1st spring election.
And as much as we talk about folks like Susan Crawford or Jill Underly, the majority of Wisconsinites do not know who
and opinion of many of them.
I think it was a little bit different for Brad Schimmel, being that he was the former attorney general, perhaps the fact that he has been running this campaign for 16 months, in addition to that as well.
But I think it just really shows the challenge that these campaigns are facing for as much as we've talked about them on the airwaves at Civic Media or online at the Reconbibulation area.
You know, there's a lot of people in the state of Wisconsin who just do not have opinions of these candidates.
You know, sometimes when you talk about the polling, it will be, oh, you know, they'll ask the question about like the candidates, but then they'll ask like the head to head.
And this is the, you know, liberal aligned candidate.
And this is the conservative aligned candidate.
And then people will just kind of fall into their typical part of
I think it was close to 40% of people did not have an opinion of him.
So I think the Marquette poll did not do a head-to-head poll between Crawford and Schimel.
And I don't think we would have really learned anything from it because we have so many people who have not formed an opinion on these candidates, which I think makes this final stretch especially important.
I think people are so tuned into what's happening nationally that the state level stuff maybe is still.
Even if we're even as we're getting, you know, millions and millions of dollars in ads and this is like blowing past all records and spending for a state court race, like it's it's it's still not the same.
You know, as as any other type of statewide race.
Yeah.
And his ads have been, the ads coming from the groups that he's funding have been like elect Brad Schimel to, to, you know, allow the Trump agenda to go forward and all of that.
And, and that's kind of been the approach from, from Elon.
And, you know, there was some polling on Elon, uh, here in this race too.
Do you want to talk about that?
Yes, please.
Okay.
So let me pull up the Elon polling.
By
the way, since we didn't have, I forgot to mention this before we went to the news at the top of the hour.
Another SpaceX rocket went boom last night.
Yeah, it exploded shortly after it was launched from Texas and it caused the grounding of flights over most of Southern Florida.
Fortunately, nobody was hurt.
That's the good thing.
But yeah, another rapid unscheduled disassembly from SpaceX.
And another masterful gambit, sir.
Yes.
Masterful gambit, Mr. Musk.
That went so well.
But anyway, let's get back to.
He meant to do that.
That was intentional explosion.
Tell us about Elon's numbers.
So not great for Mr. Elon Musk.
And if you look actually at the independent voters on this one.
You know, a lot of times independent voters will kind of track with what the rest of it is.
Independent voters are very low on Elon.
He only had 29 favorable to 58% unfavorable among independent voters.
What would you guess his favorability is among Democratic voters?
His favorability?
Yeah.
How many people, how many Democrats view him favorably?
Four people.
Pretty close.
So I think, you know, it would amount to a few people there, but 1%, 1% favorable to 97% unfavorable, the view among Democrats for Mr. Elon.
But what about Republicans?
Republicans that is 81% favorable to 11% unfavorable.
One of the real stories, and I think Craig Gilbert of the Journal Central wrote about this in his recap of the poll.
The divide is so stark.
Like you see the same in the polling on Trump, in the polling on, you know, a number of other figures in the Democratic Party and all that.
The divide, it's just like, it used to be kind of in the, you know, Republicans might be like a 70% favorable for Trump or something like that or whatever.
It's now just like Republicans have like 100% near favorability for Trump and Democrats are close to zero.
Like the
Going back to Brad Schimmel though, and this is from the Wisconsin Examiner from this morning.
And I think it's really interesting because
Brad Schimel does seem to be saying one thing on the campaign trail.
And then when he's in these more privately private events, it's an entirely different thing.
He is presenting himself to the public as this moderate.
He's the he's the rash, you know, the reasonable I back the blue guy.
Well, when he gets off into these more private events, that's not who he is, how he is portraying himself.
He was at a turning point USA event.
Turning Point, USA, rung by Charlie Kirk.
Yeah, and he's saying at the same time, while saying his goal is to bring objectivity to the court as well.
And, you know, he's made some comments this week about like just kind of going back to some 2020 conspiracy theory stuff that makes him sound like Michael Gabelman, former former state Supreme Court justice Michael Gabelman.
It's just like that level of stuff that's going
And don't forget as well, Brad Schimmel has come down on the side of the January 6th attackers at the US Capitol, believes they didn't get a fair shot.
They didn't get a fair trial.
And yeah, now in these private events, and again, we can include this article from the Wisconsin Examiner.
Yeah, there was, I'm still not sure about the 2020 election.
I'm still not sure about the results.
We spent over $2 million worth of taxpayer money to investigate fraud or fraud in Wisconsin.
And you know what?
They found nothing.
And who agrees with that?
Robin Voss.
It has overwhelming bipartisan support.
And not only in the people who are introducing this, but now we see in public polling as well.
So 67% of Wisconsin registered voters are in favor of extending coverage for Medicaid recipients to a full year for mothers after giving birth.
That is a pretty overwhelming number.
67% is a big deal.
And I think that just shows where voters are in this issue.
And I think people would really like to see the state legislature move forward with this.
That's where everything goes to die.
It doesn't matter how much.
Wisconsinites agree, even if they over agree overwhelmingly in favor of safer gun laws, say, or access to safe and legal abortions.
The vast majority of Wisconsinites agree about these things.
Robin Voss doesn't.
And that's where it ends.
And that's where it stops.
Exactly.
We're going to continue our conversation with Dan Schaefer, creator of the Recon Population Area and also the political editor for Civic Media.
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He joins us every Friday at this time, creator of the Reconpopulation Area and also Civic Media's political editor, Dan Schaefer, is here.
And we've been kicking around the latest Marquette University Law School poll that came out yesterday.
And Dan's gleaned some kind of things, some of the under the radar things that not everybody is necessarily talking about.
Everybody's gonna talk about Elon.
Everybody's gonna talk about the Wisconsin Supreme Court race.
But there are so many issues that this particular one polled and I wanted to talk about five under the radar one.
So we talked about the postpartum Medicaid expansion right before the break there.
Next one I wanted to talk about was childcare.
something we talk about that I've talked about a lot, you know, on this show and at the Reconbibulation Area and elsewhere.
And so the question in this poll was, do you favor or oppose a proposal by Tony Evers to include $500 million in the upcoming budget to make permanent a childcare subsidy that began during the COVID-19 pandemic, but is set to expire at the end of June?
Complicated question.
Yep.
But it broke down 54% in favor 45% opposed.
And if you look at the partisan divide on this one, it is really stark.
Democrats and independents favor making this subsidy permanent.
Republicans by an overwhelming margin are opposed.
to funding child care in the state.
I mean, the child care accounts program that this question is alluding to was recognized by the Wisconsin Policy Forum as an exceptional
program.
That's an unpartisan policy analysis shop.
And they have recognized that that how effective and and how important it has been to keeping childcare facilities open in Wisconsin, and raising wages for the people who are caring for our kids.
And so I think those are really important things.
But again, this is this has turned into a very red blue divide on this one in particular.
voted out of office or steps down.
How many Republicans, not just Democrats, but Republicans would be like, okay, can we get some work done?
Can I take something back to my district, to my people?
Because campaigning on childcare, expanding healthcare, I mean, all these things are great things.
People just agree on them.
And I feel like the moment Robin Voss, it makes his way out of those, his little power office, people are gonna be like, all right, let's
Now we can
But if you are, just let it go.
in this polling is on Act 10, which of course has been back in the news with the case, the case striking it down and the, you know, just kind of as it winds through its way to the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
So for this one, the question was on if Act 10 should be, do you hope that the court upholds Act 10 or strikes down the law as violating the state constitution?
Only 42% of Wisconsinites.
said that they would want to uphold the law, 54% saying that they would prefer to strike the law down.
It is almost 14 years exactly since that law was passed in the state of Wisconsin in, you know, that tumultuous spring in 2011.
And I think
It you know, it's one of those things you sometimes you look at how policies age, right?
The Affordable Care Act was one of those things that people were very polarized over yes early going but as it aged people's public opinion of it really has has been positive over the years Act 10 I think it's pretty interesting that it is an as much of a net negative as it is here because you see conservative touting this this Proposal, you know touting Act 10's as this, you know major success in Wisconsin.
Well
In large part, Wisconsinites are not feeling it in that way.
And I think it is really interesting that 14 years in, most Wisconsinites would prefer for it to be struck down.
And this is interesting too.
How many Republicans do you think sided with the strike down
What I'm hearing in these polling questions is that the Wisconsin that we talk about that we miss is alive and well in the people, not in the people passing the laws.
They are upholding the will of the people.
every single day they are occupying those offices, period.
Well, and I would hope that the Crawford campaign is going to look at some of these results and start tagging Schimel with this stuff.
because Schimel is against everything in this poll that people seem to be for.
And for people who have forgotten, Act 10 essentially, and this is a very simplistic explanation of it, but what Act 10 did was strip collective bargaining powers from every union that might not support a Republican.
Yeah, right.
And now, here's the thing that I really stood out as interesting to be on this, 34% of Republicans want.
Act 10 to be struck down.
So we were talking before that how these there's these huge divides You know on Elon Musk on Donald Trump and all these different things 34 a third of Republicans now want act 10 to be struck down I found that fascinating.
Well, and there's there's hey to
and not just in this upcoming election but in Primaries and general elections in the future over the next few years.
I mean, this is very telling information Dan very as actually makes me feel
A little better.
It makes me feel better because it means, oh, Wisconsinites still have the right mindset for what we need to do to move forward, which is our state model moving forward.
But yeah, unfortunately.
Network.
You made me
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As we always do, we try and lighten things up a little bit for the last half hour of the show.
We call it Audio Sorbet.
Just a little cleansing breath to get away from all of the news.
And that's why we have with us Peach Swabba, the host of Nightlight with Peach Swabba, six to eight PM across the Civic Media Radio Network.
Pete, that song is a new song from Dolly Parton, commemorizing her husband, Carl Dean, who passed away this week.
They had been married for 60 years, and we didn't really have a chance to mention it earlier this week, but just wanted to get a shout out to Dolly and to her longtime husband.
who was always in the background and didn't have a problem with that.
Well, that makes
Yeah, that was something else.
I kind of forgot she was married.
You know, like he just never heard about the guy, but they were together for like 60 years.
And she's like all over the news saying.
You know what a great marriage they had and she might be doing cartwheels behind the scene.
We don't know 60 years is a long time, but No, it's a kind of a pretty song.
I
It's a lovely, very sweet, very hopeful film about a farmer having some hard times in northeastern Wisconsin, and he bets the farm.
on the Packers winning the Super Bowl.
But there is one.
I went to see the movie about a month ago by myself and I came home and my husband said, how is the movie?
And he said, it was fine, except for this one thing.
There is a plot flaw in this movie.
And I just can't shake it off.
You finally went and saw it last weekend, Pete.
I want to know.
Greg's rubbing his eyes.
Did are you with me on this?
Before you answer that,
it right so here was my biggest issue and i like the film and andrews is a great guy i've had him on the show a couple times um and i'm amazed at what they've been able to accomplish my only issue or the thing i thought that jumped out it
at first was the girl Madison Lawler who plays the daughter.
Does it involve her?
No,
So in she's up on the second floor caulking windows.
It's fall.
Okay Later on in the film now it's winter
And she is going with her girlfriend to get in the car and there's snow on the ground.
And her friend says, oh, you better not leave that ladder there.
So she starts climbing up the ladder, which is wrapped in Christmas lights.
So they went around the second floor of the house and put Christmas lights around the second floor.
didn't move the ladder, wrapped the lights around the ladder, and then continued with the lights around the house.
No self-respecting Wisconsinite would do that.
Ever!
You know, here, first of all, I want to say you kind of tainted my whole experience, too, because I totally...
I finally get to see this movie.
I had the director on the show.
I've made an independent film.
I'm excited to see what this guy did.
And all I can think the whole movie is, what would Jane have had a problem with that?
What's Jane's issue with that?
What happened?
And that was kind of me watching the movie.
And my only issue was like when the daughter got the singing contract.
Right.
When the Brandon Sklenar character offered her a ton of money and they're about to lose the farm.
Take the money.
She has no connections.
She's in Door County.
She's never even, she's performed at two open mics, whatever it was, like you take that money and you get credit as a singer.
So that was my biggest issue overall, but I'm totally nitpicking.
I enjoyed the film and yeah.
That brings up, okay, I got two things I want to say.
One, this isn't like watching a movie and finding a flub.
Like, oh, he, you know, the car door was open and when he came back, the car door was closed.
This is all based on Jane's belief in the work ethic of Wisconsinites.
We're better than that.
But also if she's 80, she may have just looked at the letters and I'll get it later.
Because for some reason, her friend says, oh, you better not leave that letter there.
And she's like, well, I'm about to go on errands with you, but I'll stop everything.
And then she gets up on the ladder.
No, you just move the ladder.
She couldn't.
It was wrapped with Christmas lights.
But my other point is, and Dan, you bring up a fantastic point that I think needs to be talked about more.
I love to actually see this in a in a Marquette Law School poll, is I just watched the movie Love Hurts with Academy Award winner Kiwi Kwan.
That movie takes place in Milwaukee.
That movie is shot in Manitoba.
There are skyline shots of Milwaukee.
It looks very, very nice and fine.
It's entirely shot in Manitoba.
And when Bridget, my wife, said something like, because Wisconsin doesn't have tax credits for movies,
People want to make movies in the state, but they don't because they can't afford it.
And the state has no vested interests.
People would, I mean, come on, it's such a no brainer to me to have tax credits for people making movies here.
I mean, we have, the nice thing about Wisconsin is you, there's so much, so many different things you could film here.
We've got rural, we've got urban, we've got lakes, rivers, woods.
It's easy to bury a body here if you want to shoot like a serial killer movie No, it was constantly a great state and I know an example to use therapy I Want to go back to the ladder thing for a second though My issue my game my issue was Like I don't we didn't see it like you said move the ladder she gets up on the ladder She might have been wearing heels even I don't know because we're taking to go to church
Okay, so to move the ladder but get up on the ladder, that tells me she's doing a Belushi in Animal House where she's on the ladder and she's gonna hop and hop and maybe try to see her husband through the window or something.
So now that you say that, I'm doing a deep dive and it's all coming together.
Pete Schwabba is here from Nightlight with Pete Schwabba, which you can catch from six to eight PM across the network.
I wanted to touch briefly on something new that I have caught on Netflix.
Pete, it's called Running Point.
Yeah.
And it's a new comedy with Kate Hudson.
And it's kind of a Ted Lasso for NBA basketball.
Yeah.
And you can watch the whole thing.
I watch the whole thing in like two days.
And it's a lot of fun.
It's funny, it's sweet.
I think they are trying to be the NBA version of Ted Lasso was with soccer.
But I think the one issue that I have with it is it's almost formulaic like an old sitcom in that there's a problem at the beginning and that problem is solved by the end of the episode.
Everything gets wrapped up really neatly by the time that episode is over.
So, and there, it is more formulae, but that's Mindy Kaling.
Like I see, I saw the office when I was reading about it and some of the clips I've seen, it reminded me of the office, but I could see the Ted Lasso comparisons as well.
Dan Schaefer from the Recon Population Area.
Thank you so very, very much.
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I have a clock radio by the bed And you need an instruction manual to change the time on it.
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This shouldn't be a thing.
Wow.
This is from earlier this month.
An iron stomach speed eater broke a Guinness world record by eating 25 Carolina Reaper chili peppers in four minutes.
36.26 seconds.
Canadian Mike Jack, a YouTuber famous for his high tolerance for spicy food, broke the Guinness record for the fastest time to eat these 25 peppers at a restaurant in Ontario.
Carolina Reapers have a heat units measurement of 1,641,183.
The average jalapeno pepper is about 4,000 to 8,500.
That's crazy.
He did this at a place called Goat Fest.
That's just cherry on a Sunday.
I mean, that's why I love about Canada so much is that as as.
Canadian as you can get, I feel like Wisconsinites especially and Minnesotans, we can appreciate how Canadian Canadians can be because we get as Wisconsinites, we can be with the things that we do that are right within our state.
I love it.
The Reaper chilies were considered the hottest chili peppers in the world until last year when the Pepper X was introduced.
Jack telling Guinness World Records I might make it a little look a little easier than it is, but I'm burning up here I really feel it the peppers they are really really hurt a lot Jack does hold multiple Guinness World Record titles not all of them spice related Last year he broke a record by drinking a Capri Sun juice pouch
in 21.71 seconds using a paper straw.
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