This White House Support Vets* (Hour 1)

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This White House Support Vets* (Hour 1)

Matenaer on Air · Thu Mar 6, 2025

Jane Matt Nair (host)

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It is Thursday, March 6th.

As of today, the average price of a gallon of 2% milk here in Wisconsin, $3.18, the same as yesterday.

The average price of a dozen large eggs here in the state, $6.24, also the same as yesterday.

Donald Trump

When I win, I will immediately bring prices down starting on day one.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

We're going to have a really, really busy show for you today.

Coming up at 10.33, our friend and colleague from Amicus, a law review, which you can listen to Saturday mornings from 9 to 11 across the network.

Jim Santel will be here.

Donald Trump just suffered a loss at the hands of the Supreme Court.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Yes.

And with an interesting player.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Very interesting player.

Jim will be talking with us about that among another, among another whole bunch of other things.

That would be words.

legal wise, because we are not lawyers.

That's why we bring experts on like people who are actual lawyers.

After the 11 o'clock news, Dr. Calico Schmidt is a veterinarian with the UW Madison Veterinary Medicine Group.

And I've been wanting to do this for a while.

I saw an article about a month ago about dogs getting Alzheimer's.

And this relates to my sister and I both had dogs that got into what Berkeley was 14.

And I think Nina made it to like 16.

But at one point, her little dog would, she would stand in the corner and she would just stare at the wall.

I know, it breaks your heart because they can't tell you what's wrong.

But if you're a pet owner, and if you have questions for Dr. Schmidt, please email those in,

Donald Trump

send those in.

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You can do that right now at 855-752-4842.

Dr. Calico Schmidt,

joining us after the 11 o'clock news, then a little weather and wine with Brittany Merleau.

Boy, did they get creamed up north.

Yes.

If you're in Hayward or Bayfield or, I think she mentioned Butternut this morning.

I love that town.

I just

Greg Bach (co-host)

can't believe there's a place in Wisconsin.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Oh, I from Butternut.

Butternut.

It makes me so happy that there's a Butternut at Wisconsin.

So, and, but then we have a big warm up coming.

So Brittany Merlot will be joining us at 1120.

Paul Noonan from the Acme Peck Inc.

their sports guru will join us at 1133.

And then we'll wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it is the all things must pass eventually edition.

Stay tuned for that.

Didn't want to start off though.

This is not good news.

Betrayed veterans from the Daily Beast rage over Trump's sweeping VA cuts.

Nearly 83,000 Veterans Affairs employees are now facing the X in the name of efficiency.

And we did reference this briefly yesterday.

We didn't actually play the clip from a Donald Trump lackey.

Greg Bach (co-host)

It's Habba.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Alina Habba had this to say about Americans veterans.

Calvin, can you play that clip, please?

Alina Habba

Well, as you know, we care about veterans tremendously.

I mean, that's something the president has always cared about.

Anybody in blue, anybody that serves this country.

But at the same time, we have taxpayer dollars.

We have a fiscal responsibility to use taxpayer dollars to pay people that actually work.

That doesn't mean that we forget our veterans by any means.

We are going to care for them in the right way, but perhaps they're not fit to have a job at this moment or not willing to come to work.

And we can't, you know, I wouldn't take money from you and pay somebody and say, sorry, you know, they're not going to come to work.

It's just not acceptable.

Greg Bach (co-host)

That last part makes no sense.

I've listened to that last part maybe like 10 times.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

First of all, we're going to take care of veterans in the right way.

I'd love more details about what that means.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Also, we support anyone in blue,

Jane Matt Nair (host)

as you just said.

Except the Capitol Police.

Which they're nothing.

No.

And there is a plaque that is supposed to be put up in the House of Representatives honoring the Capitol Police who

protected our lawmakers on January 6th as that attack was happening at the Capitol.

Yeah, that plaque still hasn't been mounted because because they can't decide whether or not they actually support the Capitol Police apparently.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Well, there are people who actually say no police died that day.

You're not you're you're

Jane Matt Nair (host)

very correct.

Greg Bach (co-host)

You're very correct.

Nobody died that day.

But because they died a day later, a week later, that's totally different.

Had nothing to do with January 6th.

It was all Biden's fault.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

So Alina Habba.

If you were a veteran and I would love to hear from you when, how does that make you feel when you hear Alina Havas say something like that?

Maybe you're not fit to have a job right now.

Greg Bach (co-host)

It's too

Jane Matt Nair (host)

lazy.

You don't want to come in.

You don't want

Greg Bach (co-host)

to come in and go to work.

And that was the other thing too.

People who don't want to come in this underlying low rent targeting of remote work.

We're seeing it in Madison with Robin Voss.

He makes a big old deal about it when it's not a big deal.

In fact,

Reports have shown efficiency goes up productivity goes up when you allow people to work remotely, but this whole attack on remote work work from home That's not the proper road to use when Just of I'm gonna say crapping over the vets was what she is doing calling them lazy

Jane Matt Nair (host)

A memo leaked yesterday revealed that the VA in partnership with Elon Musk's DOGE will return to 2019 staffing levels.

The goal is to return to those levels even though the PACT Act in 2022 expanded VA health care and disability benefits to cover millions more veterans who had been exposed to burn pits and other toxic substances.

The V.A.

was contacted for comment from the Daily Beast, yep, no response.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Because the person who answers that phone got fired probably.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Senator Tammy Duckworth, who's a Democrat of Illinois and also a veteran of the Iraq War, put this on Twitter, mark my word, this is a Republicans plan all along, gut the V.A., then push to privatize the department so they can fund tax cuts for billionaires and our heroes.

will pay the price.

Vote Vets, which is a group that I follow on Twitter.

I encourage you to do that.

Vote Vets is a group that encourages veterans to run for office.

They call the plan infuriating.

If you are a veteran or the spouse of a veteran or the daughter or son of a veteran, I would love to know how you feel about this.

When you hear Alina Habba in Trump's inner circle saying, well, we're going to take care of vets the right way.

but maybe they don't deserve to have a job right now.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Well, Cassandra on the live stream is very frank about it.

She says, my dad was a vet and couldn't work because of his military service.

With respect, she can shove it.

Thank you, Cassandra.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Pre-concise and to the point.

An FCC compliance.

I really, I appreciate that.

The proposed layoffs at the VA will deliver a one-two punch where veterans are being laid off at the same time that it becomes more difficult for other veterans to get care.

This is just gonna be an ongoing

Greg Bach (co-host)

cycle of pain.

Yeah, well, and that's what we were told to expect for two years and also This is just the VA.

I mean the the executive order on the Department of Education They are going to gut anything they don't find necessary and it's the Republicans they don't find anything in the federal government Necessary they're going to do what they've been trying to do for decades, which is make it so small It's incapable of working and sell it off to the highest bidders

Jane Matt Nair (host)

I saw yesterday reports, of course, and we had talked about this a couple of weeks ago.

Donald Trump now talking about privatizing the United States Postal Service and privatizing Amtrak.

And is it the greatest idea to put everything in the hands of private individuals like Elon?

Is that the answer to all of our problems?

Nope.

And I

Greg Bach (co-host)

will once again give a very brief example of this theory in Racine.

Back in the 2000s, they wanted to privatize their garbage pickup.

They went and looked at different groups to do it.

They found out that not only were they going to pay more in a year for private garbage pickup versus having it be a public service, they were also going to not be able to provide customer service of the same quality because it's a private business.

So the city can give a certain the city can give certain guarantees But when it's privatized that's

Jane Matt Nair (host)

them

Greg Bach (co-host)

then it's it's not you're on your own Well, and

Jane Matt Nair (host)

when we talked about the postal service the postal service has to deliver to inconvenient areas That's part of their mandate.

They have to deliver your mail.

Yes, a private company isn't gonna have to do that.

No, they can change your mind like

You have to come here to get your mail.

Greg Bach (co-host)

We're giving you

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we're giving you complimentary P. O. Boxes eight five five seven five two four eight four two.

If you would like to join the show talking about Alina Habba in Trump's inner circle skating yesterday that maybe our vets don't deserve, you know, a job.

No, because

Greg Bach (co-host)

I don't even like saying it because like the idea of like her calling them.

And she didn't say lazy, but that is the take.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Well, that's

Greg Bach (co-host)

the inference.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

They don't want to come into work.

Exactly.

You don't want to come into work.

Al from Milwaukee is on the line.

Good morning, Al.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Al from Milwaukee (caller)

Good morning.

I am a Vietnam veteran, wounded six times.

My grandfather was in the army.

My mother was in the army.

My father was in the Navy.

My sister was in the Army.

I have two sons who were Marines and three uncles who were in the Army.

We came home and got cut off from everything, no matter what.

You go to other countries, the veterans are given free housing, they're given food for the rest of their lives, and they come to them for advice about

how to approach other issues dealing with war, what have you.

In this country, you get kicked to the curb.

And when I was Vice President of the Center for Veterans Issues in Milwaukee, a black-funded, founded organization which has been taken over by all white men, we did research on the VA.

And the VA, after Vietnam,

showed us that only one third of all of the veterans in this country get services through the VA.

But the VA has one of the largest budgets in our government.

And we could not find in our research any place that they audited the VA's budget.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

So, Al, I don't mean to cut you off, but we're coming up against the break.

So do you feel that these cuts are a good thing?

Al from Milwaukee (caller)

Definitely not.

These people earned what they were getting and they actually are on old more and These people all of this is about money.

It's not about the people or service to a country It's about Trump and that idiot from South Africa Gathering as much money in this

in this government if possible, so they can go do something else with it.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Yep.

Thank you so much, Elle.

And thank you and your family for your decades of service.

Seriously, we mean that.

Yes.

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Cindy from Appleton (caller)

Good

Jane Matt Nair

morning.

Welcome back to Matt Nair on air.

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Our friend and colleague, Jim Santel, host of Amicus Law Review on Saturdays across the network from 9 to 11.

Jim's going to be joining us after the 1030 News.

Donald Trump actually lost a case in front of the US Supreme Court.

I don't think he's happy about that.

We'll talk about that a little bit with Mr. Santel coming up very, very shortly.

I did want to address this just a little bit this morning because I think it's important.

especially when people wonder, what can I do?

I'm so frustrated, I'm worried, I'm concerned, what can I do to make a difference?

This came out yesterday.

Rich Cramer, excuse me with the byline at the Wisconsin Public Radio headline reads, poll shows many don't know about Crawford or Schimmel in pivotal Wisconsin Supreme Court race, this according to the Marquette University Law School poll.

that came out yesterday.

A majority of registered voters in Wisconsin do not have an opinion yet about Susan Crawford or Brad Schimmel, and the election is April 1st.

Yes.

Four weeks.

Four weeks away, this is a critically important race.

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Yeah.

Jane Matt Nair

If Brad Schimmel is elected to the Wisconsin Supreme Court, it will once again flip back to conservative control.

We've only just gotten fairer maps once Janet Protasewitz was elected.

If Brad Schimmel gets on there, I predict they will undo that almost immediately, because they want to make sure they lock in those Republican seats so they don't actually have to face their constituents who might be unhappy with them.

Yeah.

Agreed.

Because that's what it does.

If we go back to the old maps, this just insulates all lawmakers, essentially, Democrats too, from having to be accountable to their constituents because their seats are so safe, they don't have to respond.

That seems like a bad idea to me.

Greg Box

Well, I

Jane Matt Nair

would say

Greg Box

that... Excuse me, I would say that...

Almost everything Brad Schimel stands for is not a good idea because you look you you take a 30,000 foot view of him and it's not just the maps It's his viewpoints and abortion

Jane Matt Nair

1849 is great law where's the 49 abortion ban is a great law according to Brad Schimel quote.

Where's the flaw?

Where's the law

Greg Box

19th century piece of legislation

Jane Matt Nair

for women could vote.

Yeah

And by the way, he has the backing of ProLife Wisconsin, which doesn't want any exceptions for abortions, even the life of the mother.

Please think about

Greg Box

that for a moment.

And there's another aspect to him as well.

His viewpoints on the Affordable Care Act.

Jane Matt Nair

Yeah, he signed on when he was Attorney General under Scott Walker.

He signed on to a case in Texas.

trying to overturn the ACA, which is also known as Obama, Obamacare.

Greg Box

And so you have those three abortion, you have legislative maps, and you have the ACA pile on top of that.

Who's funding him?

You know who really likes Brett Schimmel?

Who,

Jane Matt Nair

Jane?

Elon Musk.

This guy.

Java the Musk Elon Musk really really likes Brad Schimel.

He's pouring in millions of dollars into Wisconsin Absolutely to make sure that Brad gets on the court and this is my speculation Elon currently does not have any company run Tesla dealerships in Wisconsin There is a chance that this could come before the Wisconsin Supreme Court ultimately.

Yes, wouldn't it be handy?

If Elon's guy was on the court, should that case come before them?

So

Greg Box

with the powers of the court tipped in the balances of the right, I think that Brad Shimmel being in that position would just help them get, well, darn near everything they want to get.

Jane Matt Nair

I guess my point is, and we say this and I know it, it might not feel like enough, but talk to people about what you know.

Talk to people about what you know about these candidates.

We got four weeks to inform people about who they're going to be voting for.

Yes.

And personally, I don't think it should be based on how many yard signs you see, but that does sway people.

It does

Greg Box

end commercials.

Absolutely.

Jane Matt Nair

When

Greg Box

Brad Schimmel is sandwiching his commercials around Susan Crawford commercials, and it's only going to get worse and worse and worse,

Jane Matt Nair

but

Greg Box

more money comes in and not just from Elon.

Diane Hendricks.

Oh, yeah.

The

Jane Matt Nair

U lines.

Greg Box

I mean, it is the usual suspects of millionaire and billionaire influencers here in Wisconsin for the right.

They're pouring their money into these campaigns for a judge's race, which is going to be more expensive than, you know, the last race.

Jane Matt Nair

855-752-4842.

Cindy from Appleton on the line.

Good morning, Cindy.

Thanks for joining us.

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

Well, I just joined.

Are you talking about the market poll?

Jane Matt Nair

Yes.

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

Yeah, I guess Brad Schimel is leading in the polls and 58% of the Wisconsinites don't know enough about either candidate.

How many years did we have stupid Schimel as our district or our general?

Yeah, I mean, it's like really people are your heads that deep in the sand the man

is violent, evil, and he spent more of our tax for your dollars on foolishness than you can shake a stick at, and 58% of the people just don't understand this stuff.

No wonder we're in such trouble, for God's sake.

Jane Matt Nair

But you know, Sidney, I know, but we talk about this a lot.

There are folks who have a lot going on in their lives, and being up on politics isn't their priority, and I'm not going to shame anybody for that.

That's why I am putting the onus upon us, to help people understand within your circle.

What we're talking about here Elon is Brad Schimmel is Musk's boy.

Yes is Elon Musk's boy Brad Schimmel completely supports the 1849 abortion ban, which will kill women Yes, it will kill women Brad Schimmel.

Thank you for reminding me Cindy also spent when he was Attorney General $10,000 of taxpayer money for these fancy schmancy commemorative coins talking about how his office kicked ass every day

a good steward of taxpayer dollars.

Greg Box

And Charles Franklin, who runs the Marquette University poll, will be on Maggie Dawn Show today at 2 p.m.

to talk about the breakdown.

Jane Matt Nair

So check that out as well.

We have news coming up next.

When we're back, Jim Santel will be here.

Stay close.

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Jane (host)

Good morning.

Welcome.

Welcome to Matt and air on air Jane Matt and air Greg box week.

I'll be on the board Coming to you from our studio here at radio park in Racine You can always join us caller text at 8 5 5 7 5 2 8 5 8 2 that's 7 5 8 5 5 7 5 civic leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook YouTube and what used to be Twitter just to remind you're the deadline to register to vote via mail or online for the April 1st

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It's really a great one-stop shop, including in case.

You're ever inclined to call one of your representatives.

Greg (co-host)

Jane, can I find phone numbers there?

Jane (host)

You can find all the applicable phone numbers right there, and they love hearing from us.

Should I swear and be mean?

No.

Okay.

Don't.

That's kind of the same rule we have for the show.

Greg (co-host)

If all you have are

Jane (host)

curse words and insults, then you have no argument.

So yeah, I wouldn't suggest that you do that, but I do encourage people to call.

Yeah.

Leave a message.

Just let them know you're thinking of them.

I think that's important.

Have a good

Greg (co-host)

day.

Have a good

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day thinking of you won't forget.

All right, joining us now from his somewhere in southeastern Wisconsin, and he is our friend and colleague who has a show on Saturday mornings across the network from 9 to 11 called Amicus Law Review.

Jim Santel is here now for our new weekly spot.

Thank you so much for carving out some time for us.

You are still an acting attorney.

You still actually do attorney things.

Jim Santel

I do attorney stuff and court things and all that fun stuff and a great to work on.

A number of different civil rights cases, human stuff, and we can chat about that sometime down the road.

If I can jump right into Greg's comment about things we say on the air, note as well that this president on February 18th entered an executive order in which he claimed

that yes, the Federal Communications Commission is now under his exclusive control, that he states what the law is and that this independent agency previously created by our Congress is now inside the Oval Office.

A stunning thing.

So Greg, watch what you're saying, not only before, but especially now because apparently the president is listening.

It's a stunning thing.

I don't mean to make light of it at all.

It is horrific.

Jane (host)

And is he actually allowed to do that?

This is mine now.

I'm taking this agency.

Now it's mine.

Greg (co-host)

That

Jim Santel

makes it quick.

Go on.

I'm sorry, sir.

No, no, it does beg a lot of questions.

And the answer is no.

And yet, as we're going to talk, I think in the next few moments here today and and every Thursday, which I'm very excited about, by the way, to be with you, I'm going to talk about the challenges to that.

And what do you do?

Well, as to the FCC, as to these other agencies, these likewise now brought apparently under the White House aegis here, the Federal Trade Communications, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the National Labor Relations Board, a part of the Federal Reserve that establishes our financial policy.

What's going to happen is we're going to be running into court now, challenging all these things, and eventually leading up to the Supreme Court, which, again, is we're going to talk.

does is now weighing in on all this.

Why are we doing this as Americans rather than focusing on things like education and environment and commercial policy and yes, overseas, international policy, healthcare, all those labor, commerce, agriculture, but instead we're running into court getting judges, requiring judges to say almost across the board unanimously, you can't do this, Mr. President.

That's the frustrating part about all of this.

Greg (co-host)

Because it seems like, and it seems like to me that executive orders in the sense of like the FCC is mine.

That seems almost like a proclamation type of level.

Like it's not really your day.

You can say it's yours, but it's not yours.

The FCC, but now what it does is instead of, it doesn't change anything other than you having to go to the courts and fight the executive orders language, which now just.

gums up are already slow working court system, takes time away from the work they should be doing on actual important things.

But like, I guess, cause that's the thing is like, everyone's freaking out about executive orders.

And I'm wondering which ones are important and which ones do we say, English has the national language.

Let's just focus on the important things.

Jim Santel

Right.

I think that's exactly right.

And some of the judges are saying just that, that is some of these do go to the core.

And those that do go to the core,

fundamentally are addressing this basic issue, which we all learned, I think, in grade school.

Maybe not, but the fundamental notion is Congress sets up all of these agencies.

It's the article one of our Constitution.

It's the big one.

Congress is the one that makes these decisions.

They put it in place.

They establish the rules.

And as a part of our checks and balances, the president, yes, can make decisions in these areas.

But the agencies then respond, the Congress responds, the courts respond.

And when a president simply says, as Louis XIV did, way back in the 17th century, here's some French this morning, right?

Le ta se moi, right?

Greg, you and I talked about a number of weeks ago.

When the president simply says, I am the law, which is what he said on February 18th.

And you follow that.

And if you don't, bad things are going to happen to you.

That's when, once again, as we're always saying so consistently, we now have an authoritarian government inconsistent with our Constitution, the basic ways in which our government works.

Jane (host)

There are so many different ways that this is problematic.

And I've spent a lot of time, Jim, because, again, one of Congress's main things is the power of the purse.

That is their power.

They control what money gets sent out, what gets appropriated where.

So that is their big constitutional power.

And I kept thinking about

If you are a member of the house, why would you cede that authority?

That's the best thing you've got.

That's your cudgel.

That's your thing.

I can only imagine that they are being promised that, well, if you just cede this power to the president, we're going to make sure you never have to run again.

And essentially, you'll never have to work another day in your life because you're never going to have to respond to your constituents.

Jim Santel

Right.

All you need to do is show up every so often at one of those house with the Senate buildings on either side of the Capitol will keep you there.

And Shane, I could not have said it more.

No one can say it better than you just did, which is you are elected by the people, whether it's some of the districts in Wisconsin or one of the other 434 other districts around the country to represent them.

If you make decisions, if you vote in certain ways and a majority of your voting constituents say no, all right, that's again, a part of our process and I recognize that power is a big thing, but that also affirms the fundamental notion that we do have a representative democracy.

If you are ceding, as you just said, that authority given to you by your local constituents and you go to Washington and say, you know what, I'm not going to do anything other than what the White House has told me to do.

You're in violation of the oath that you took.

You're in violation of the contract that you made.

with everyone who voted for you.

Jane (host)

If you're just joining us, Jim Santel is our guest.

He hosts Amicus Law Review Saturday mornings from 9 to 11.

It's a wonderful program.

You

Jim Santel

will

Jane (host)

learn so much.

And in actual human speak, as opposed to just lawyer speak, which is a whole different language.

We try.

Jim Santel

I

Jane (host)

know.

One of the reasons I wanted to have you on, Jim, this is from Esquire, the Supreme Court ruled against Trump, but it didn't stop Justice Alito from getting snotty.

I love the headline.

So Donald Trump did actually have a loss in front of the Supreme Court that happened this week.

Jim Santel

Absolutely.

And this is a big one.

This is a big one.

And the important reason it's so important, Jane and Greg and Calvin, that you address this for all your listeners is that this has got everything inside it, right?

It's got the usurpation of authority by a president.

It's got congressional action.

It's got, again, snottingness.

I would describe it as intellectual dishonesty.

We'll talk about some of the language that Alito has used.

It's simply wrong.

It's simply wrong.

It's intellectually dishonest.

It's got foreign policy.

And yes, it also has the continuing emergence of Amy Coney Barrett, distancing herself more and more.

We've talked about a lot of this on your show in the past.

from her conservative allies, watch her in the future and see what she does.

She joins John Roberts and handing this defeat to the president.

Jane (host)

When I saw that I almost fell out of my chair, seriously, and MAGA is up in arms now about Amy Coney Barrett.

They are furious that she sided again with the liberals, but then John Roberts did too.

which is nothing

Jim Santel

new for

Jane (host)

John Roberts.

Jim Santel

Every once

Jane (host)

in a while, he does something not nuts.

Jim Santel

That's a perfect way to describe it.

Because I really do believe, as we've discussed in the past, I think every so often he wakes up and thinks, gosh, this is the Roberts Court.

It's going to have my name on it for all time history.

And maybe on some of these really fundamental things, although again, he is also the one that eight months ago gave the president a pass on criminal activity, for which justice and aside,

Have you heard about this hot mic at the State of the Union?

Yes.

President walks over to John Roberts and says, thank you.

We won't forget.

Yeah.

Oh my goodness.

Oh my goodness.

Quid pro quo right there in the walls of the halls of the Congress.

But again, this is this is a situation where you've got maybe an emerging Supreme Court, maybe a little bit of the Chief Justice saying this is too far.

And so he also in a very brief order to get into the substance of this.

This is what Donald Trump did as he promised on January 20.

He halts all programs, all monies for what we know is USAID.

This is the foreign aid programs that does all sorts of things, medical care, food, businesses, commercial disease prevention, political instability.

When I was in Iraq, these are the folks who made things happen.

They are to develop an institution, a new government.

And Donald Trump comes in and again says horrifically,

stopping all of that.

And what happens is it goes to a judge named Amir Ali, we've talked about before.

He's in the federal district court in Washington, DC.

And Ali looks at this and says, first of all, again, no authority, no executive authority for the president to do this.

And he orders that it all be stopped.

At least the answer is what's called a TROA, temporary restraining order.

And again, indicates, tells the president, knock it off.

Let's get these funds flowing once again.

and about $1.5 billion.

The judge directs them to do that.

And again, in the category of this event, this new story has everything.

We've got the other major issue here, which is arguably moving toward a constitutional crisis.

Because as Judge Ali said, during the course of these initial proceedings, gets the attorneys back in and he says, what's going on?

Why are you not following what I told you to do?

the attorneys for the Department of Justice say, well, I can't, we've got some theories here that maybe your order didn't mean what it says.

He says, no, he says, no, do what I said, or I'm going to find you in contempt.

And it's then that the attorneys take this to the Supreme Court.

John Roberts briefly suspends, stays everything that the judge has done.

And then again, just yesterday issues this five to four decision, just a paragraph.

It's kind of convoluted because there's all this procedural history there, which I've somewhat glossed over.

But in the end, he says, nope, the president needs to abide.

At least he needs to follow the law.

He sends it back to the judge and says, be a little bit more particular about what exactly you need for them to do.

You should clarify what obligations the government must fulfill.

the judge in this case, he will jump right on that.

I'm sure he's on it today.

And he will tell the attorneys once again, here's exactly what you need to do.

Follow what I'm saying or else.

And again, if Donald Trump says no, we do have that constitutional crisis afforded.

Jane (host)

Well, and that leads to me.

And we're going to come right up against the break.

So we'll address this on the other side.

What does that or else mean?

Where does that or else take us?

And what could happen?

If we get to that point, Jim Santel is our guest.

He's host of Amicus, a law review across the network Saturday mornings from 9 to 11.

We're going to continue our conversation.

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Good morning.

Oh, welcome back to matinee here on here.

I'm getting all Dave brew Becky get that jazz vibe in the air.

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Today it is the all things must pass eventually edition.

Stick around for this one.

And if you ever have a thing you think should not be, send it into Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us.

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We are joined by our friend and colleague and host of Amicus Law Review Saturdays from 9 to 11 in the morning.

Across the network, Jim Santel is here.

And right before we went to the break, we were talking about kind of this surprising decision by the Supreme Court voting five to four to uphold a lower court ruling that will force Trump

to release $2 billion in aid already approved for this USAID program.

Right before we went to break, Jim, I asked, what if they don't do this?

I mean, some of his advisors, and I can't think of which one off the top of my head, have already said, just ignore them.

So the Supreme Court ruled this way, just do it, just do it.

One

Jim Santel (guest)

of those.

advisors, and I think all three of us, all of your listeners probably would put advisors in quotes, is the Vice President of the United States of America.

Jane has said just that.

He said, you know what?

Presidents do not have to follow what mere federal judges say.

No, you went to law school.

Apparently, you were sleeping through most of the constitutional law courses, Mr. Vice President.

But you do have to follow that and becomes relevant, Jane.

And Greg, just because, again, Judge Ali said, I'm ordering you to do this.

When they didn't do it, he called them back in.

He said, you're not defying my order.

You need to follow what we're doing.

And the government comes back and says, well, we're looking at these contracts case by case.

The judge interrupts him and says, no, no, no case by case analysis.

You released the $2 billion.

And he orders them basically by midnight of a day last week to

to put all this in place.

And that, as you just said, is when we get to the Supreme Court.

The question you raise is, now that we've got this order and we're going forward, do those same attorneys who said, we don't need to follow what you're directing, Judge Ali, do they do what they say?

And that is, that is the premise.

That's the predicate.

for a true constitutional crisis.

We talk a lot about things being constitutional crisis.

Watergate was not a constitutional crisis.

Why?

Because in the end, Richard Nixon complied with the order to release those tapes that spelled his doom.

He followed the rule of law and his presidency devolved after that.

Here, we have now, for the first time in our history, a president and his advisors who may be saying, we don't need to follow that.

And if that is the case,

where do we go?

What is the next step?

What is the next step?

There is no further check on that short of the people once again, like in South Korea and Israel before the Gaza War taking to the streets and saying, we are not going to permit this to happen.

That's what's looming.

And that's why this story is so very important.

That, of course, and including your favorite justice, Jane San Malito, and the language there also speaks to this issue.

He is, again, intellectual dishonesty, right?

What he says is that he's got an eight-page dissent.

You know, he thinks that does protest too much, an eight-page dissent in all this, and he says the law does, and he says, the judge is requiring you to pay this $2 billion, not because the law requires it.

Oh, yes.

Oh, yes, it does.

The Congress said, you've got to do this.

He said, but because a single district court judge ordered it.

Well, that too.

And now I wonder if you were sleeping through Law School Justice Alito.

We have judges all the time who order things.

They've taken up an appeal.

Remember the judge in Northern Texas who ordered a nationwide ban on Mipha Pristone?

Yes.

That was a singular judge.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

Now

Jim Santel (guest)

that gets reversed for all sorts of reasons.

But when he says it's intellectually dishonest to say it's not what the law requires.

But here's the big one.

Here's the big one.

He says it's judicial hubris.

He's talking about his colleagues.

that imposes a $2 billion penalty on American taxpayers.

No, no.

It's a penalty only if the budget of the United States of America and things the Congress does is a penalty.

If you buy into that crazy language, then you're right, Mr. Associate Justice.

But that's intellectually dishonest, and he knows it.

He just plain knows it.

That's why this is so very frustrating.

I guess Alito snoozed through Yale Law School and just became a tax expert.

Jane Matinee (host)

I think of Sam Alito missed his time in history.

He should have been around for the Inquisition.

He would have been great.

He would have been a happy guy, witch hunting and stuff.

Jim Santel (guest)

Right.

And he goes on to say, of course, that he's got this obligation to ensure that the power entrusted to federal judges is supported by the Constitution that it's not abused.

Judge Ali is not abusing anything, Mr. Associate Justice.

You're the ones who, by encouraging defying of this order, were setting us on the course of a true constitutional disaster here.

Judicial hubris?

No, judicial support.

It is stunning, Candidly, that all the justices of the Supreme Court are not voting in favor of supporting the lower court.

The fact that we've got four of them who are still out there saying, yeah, this is okay.

That should also be stunning for all your listeners.

I know it is.

Jane Matinee (host)

Check out Jim's show.

It's fantastic.

He's going to be joining us once a week every Thursday at this time.

Amicus Law Review Saturday mornings from 9 to 11 across the Wood Network.

Thank you so much, Jim.

Really appreciate it.

News

Jim Santel (guest)

is

Jane Matinee (host)

coming up next, and then we're going to talk dogs and Alzheimer's.

OK, it's going to be OK.

Yeah, that's all on the way.

Stay with us.

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you

Jane Matt Nair

Good morning and welcome, welcome to Matt Nair on air.

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I'll come into you live from our studio here at Radio Park in Racine.

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She is civic media's meteorologist.

We're going to talk about that.

They just got creamed up north with snow yesterday.

And now we've got this big warm-up coming.

So Brittney Merleau will be joining us after the 1130 news.

Paul Noonan will be here from the Acme Packing Company to talk all things sports.

And we will wrap up the show as we always do.

With this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it's the, this too shall pass eventually.

edition.

Stick around for that.

Right now, though, I'm really excited to have our next guest join us.

This has been in the works for a while.

Dr. Calico Schmidt is our guest.

She's a veterinarian with UW Madison's Veterinary Medicine.

Good morning, Dr. Schmidt.

Thank you so much for joining us.

How are you?

Dr. Calico Schmidt

Well, thank you.

I'm doing well, Jane.

It's good to be here with you, Greg and Kelvin, and thanks for having me.

Jane Matt Nair

Absolutely.

We have to start off with probably a question that you hear all the time.

You had to be a veterinarian, didn't you, because your name is Calico.

Dr. Calico Schmidt

I think you're right.

It's funny because my dad actually is not a cat lover.

So I was not named originally after calico cats, but my dad is an interior decorator and my mom went to school in textiles.

So I'm actually named after the calico fabric, but it works great for me.

Jane Matt Nair

I didn't even know there was a calico fabric.

Now I'm going to have to look

Dr. Calico Schmidt

it up.

Common for quilting.

So quilters out there will know about calico fabric.

Jane Matt Nair

Oh, that's fantastic.

One of the reasons why I had wanted to.

to you, Dr. Schmidt.

I had, and my family, we always had dogs growing up and I've had two dogs and my sisters had dogs and we're a big family of dog lovers.

And I saw this article a few months ago, cats and dogs get dementia.

And I don't know if this is something, maybe I'm the only one on the planet who didn't realize this, but I was like, they what?

So is this a very common problem for dogs and cats developing dementia?

Dr. Calico Schmidt

You know, that's an excellent question.

And I think it's something that we're just beginning to recognize more and more.

I read an article in which surveys of dog and cat owners asked them about whether they were seeing some changes in their aging dogs and cats that we have now identified as being a part of dementia.

And the numbers came back very interestingly ranging from 25 all the way up to almost 75% of pet owners recognize some of these cognitive

of changes in their pets as they get older.

Jane Matt Nair

My sister, for example, her little Nina, I think was about 15 or 16.

And in those last couple of years, Suzanne was always worried because she said Nina will pace around in circles, in circles, in circles, and then she'll stop and she just stares at the wall.

Would that have been a sign of Alzheimer's?

Dr. Calico Schmidt

Absolutely.

Veterinarians developed this acronym when we first started noticing some of these changes in dogs, and they started out with just four letters, G-I-S-H.

And of course, we've expanded that by now, but the first letter, the D, stands for disorientation.

So that sounds exactly like what your sister Nina's dog was noticing.

Sometimes dogs will appear kind of confused.

We'll see them sometimes walk into a corner or behind a chair and just act like they're stuck.

like they don't know how to get out of that corner.

Jane Matt Nair

It's

Dr. Calico Schmidt

really sad, actually.

Some dogs will be really used to going out the door of the home and know what side of the door to go to to go out.

And as they get older, they get confused and forget which side of the door to go to.

So all of those are changes that might suggest some cognitive decline.

Jane Matt Nair

Is there anything that can be done for this condition because we don't really have anything

That's a silver bullet for this condition in adults or in humans yet.

Dr. Calico Schmidt

Yeah, that's an excellent question too.

And I think this is one place where human medicine and animal medicine are showing some similarities.

So for example, there are some supplements that we found can be helpful in slowing the progression of decline in these cognitive changes.

So things like

omega-3 fatty acids and antioxidants have been found to help.

Unfortunately, we don't really have any cures, but there are some things we can definitely do to help.

And even some of the things that you hear now for senior adults.

as they experience some problems like getting out and getting some exercise and mental and social stimulation.

So even something as simple as playing with your dog or cat a little bit more or maybe offering some of those little food puzzle toys where they have to figure out how to get a treat out.

Those are all things that can help.

with some mental stimulation.

Jane Matt Nair

So we need to find like crossword puzzles for dogs.

Yeah, exactly.

But but but and you can like you said, that's a great thing, though, with the height the treat thing.

And there's so there's so many options now that didn't used to be even exist.

Greg Bach

Yeah, I mean, that's it's almost like children now, too.

Like when I was a little kid, the educational toys were terrible.

They weren't fun.

They weren't interesting.

But now even dog educational toys, just like children, they're engaging their fun, their bright colors.

and I mean, we have some of those toys from our dog who's not even two yet.

And she just gets into it.

And the question I have for you, doctor, is because my dog is not even two years old.

Jane Matt Nair

She's a youngster.

Yeah, she's a

Greg Bach

baby.

What signs can you look for in younger dogs?

Or does this start to show up at four or five?

And the reason why I ask is because I think of people who are diagnosed with early onset dementia.

If it can happen to humans, can that also happen to pets and are there things we can look for in pets at the age of like four or five?

Dr. Calico Schmidt

That's an awesome question.

And I don't think we are savvy enough to have recognized early onset dementia or Alzheimer's in our pets yet.

Typically, these signs will begin to show up as they age and become maybe what we'd call seniors.

So for dogs, people might start noticing these signs maybe between seven and 10 years of age for cats, 10 or older.

Yeah.

If you're just

Jane Matt Nair

joining us, Dr....

Dr. Calico Schmidt

She's not a wild

Jane Matt Nair

Craig.

Yeah.

Good.

She's still a punk.

She's still a juvenile delinquent.

She is.

She's two.

You called my dog a punk.

Well, much is.

Dr. Calico Schmidt is our guest.

She's a veterinarian with UW Madison's Veterinary Medicine.

The other thing in the time that we have left, Dr. Schmidt, that I wanted to talk with you about influencers are a real big thing.

Most of so many people now get...

All of their news and most of their information from people that they follow on YouTube or have a YouTube channel I'm really concerned about bad advice being given out by influencers, especially on things that you should feed your pets.

Dr. Calico Schmidt

Oh, that is definitely a topic that is

we're seeing a lot of controversy and I agree that some sources may not have a lot of scientific evidence and backing.

There are however some people who know what they're talking about so I think one of the first things we can do is just look at the source and ask where did that person or website get their information?

Is there research that backs up what these folks are saying?

And if in doubt, your veterinarian is always a really good resource too, and they can help you look into some of those questions.

Jane Matt Nair

Yeah.

If her name is Becky and her main job is reviewing yoga pants, I would maybe not get veterinary advice from her, but

Greg Bach

that's just me.

Unless Becky's like, my name is Becky.

whatever I went to this medical school.

Jane Matt Nair

Exactly.

There you go.

We

Greg Bach

love all Becky's.

Jane Matt Nair

Yes,

Dr. Calico Schmidt

we do.

You

Jane Matt Nair

have

Dr. Calico Schmidt

excellent scientific literacy skills.

Yeah, just know your source

Jane Matt Nair

and

Dr. Calico Schmidt

that that goes goes far.

Jane Matt Nair

The other thing I've been wondering about Dr. Schmidt is bird flu is a big concern now around the country and certainly here in the US.

And there had been some early reports about bird flu transferring to domestic pets.

Are you seeing a lot of that?

Dr. Calico Schmidt

You know, that's an excellent question as well.

And I think something that's a concern on everybody's mind.

And we have had some instances.

I don't know if we've had any patients here at the veterinary school, but I know across the United States, we've definitely had some cases of bird flu in cats that

can range from being very mild to very severe.

There've even been some deaths reported.

So it's a significant concern and something we're all watchful and aware of.

Jane Matt Nair

And the main thing would be to keep your cats away from birds.

Dr. Calico Schmidt

Yeah.

Yeah.

If you can keep them indoors, keep them in a safe place.

It's a little harder for dogs, but I don't know of any evidence in dogs yet.

Jane Matt Nair

I would really like to hammer that.

And this is going to make me very unpopular.

Keep your cats in the house.

Please they kill so many songbirds they kill so many songbirds and It shortens their lifespan, right?

Dr. Calico Schmidt

Yeah, it can and oh you just hate to see cats hit by cars Yeah, I'm inside

Jane Matt Nair

they get in fights.

There's you know, there's coyotes and all other kinds of things and I

Dr. Calico Schmidt

pray I

Jane Matt Nair

had some friends at one point are like well, it's their natural instinct to be outside put them in front of a window There you go.

There you go.

It was a natural for you to fix them either and you fix them so

Dr. Calico Schmidt

yeah

Yeah, there you go.

I know people who will take their cats out on a leash or harness, so there are safe ways

Jane Matt Nair

to do that.

That's great.

Or

Dr. Calico Schmidt

build them a little catio, like a little screened-in porch.

Catio!

Jane Matt Nair

Those are safe

Dr. Calico Schmidt

ways to do

Jane Matt Nair

it.

Isn't that awesome?

Have you not seen catios?

I've never

Dr. Calico Schmidt

heard

Jane Matt Nair

the term.

Oh yeah, they have catios.

They're great.

I love it.

Kurt from Madison is on the line.

Real quickly, Kurt, we got about two and a half minutes left.

Thanks for joining us.

What's your question for Dr. Schmidt?

Kurt from Madison (caller)

I have a nine-year-old female, Bernadoodle.

where I need her to lose at least 10 pounds, and she was on a metabolic dog food that proved to do absolutely nothing.

I've been trying to research the hell out of this about what is the best food, because I'm calorie counting, somewhere between seven and 800 per day, and she's not losing weight.

Dr. Calico Schmidt

Can you

Kurt from Madison (caller)

put any clarity on dog foods?

Dr. Calico Schmidt

That's an excellent question Greg.

Thank you for asking because obesity and overweight are such big problems for many of our pets and you're doing all the right things.

You're doing a great job of watching and counting calories.

We always start with hopefully your vet has helped you calculate good calorie amounts and cut back gradually.

Oftentimes we'll use that as a starting point.

Some dogs just have such

Good metabolisms that they are very good with their calories and we may need to cut back even further So if you're having trouble chat with your vet a little bit and they may have you gradually cut back on calories further If the current diet isn't working There are some special prescription diets that are even lower in calories and then of course just like they say for us as people Get out and do some more exercise to help burn some calories and that can help too Curt just all the right things

Jane Matt Nair

Kurt just expect her to look at you like when are you gonna feed

Dr. Calico Schmidt

me?

Jane Matt Nair

a salad.

Dr. Calico Schmidt has been our guest from UW Madison.

Thank you so much, Dr. Schmidt.

We'll get you back on.

Have a wonderful day.

Stay close.

Brittany Merlot, weather and wine coming up next.

You are listening to Matt Nair on air on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Greg Buck

Good

Jane Matt Nair

morning and welcome back to Matt Nair on air.

Jane Matt Nair, Greg Buck, Calvi Teeny on the board, coming to you from her studio at Radio Park in Racine.

You can always join us.

Call her text at 855.

7524842 Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook YouTube and what used to be Twitter She joins us every Thursday at this time for a little weather and wine Brittany Merleau is here civic media meteorologist.

You know what Brittany?

You should have been a Somalia You should have you should have worked in wine with a last name like like Merleau, but instead you're a meteorologist

Brittany Merlot

Yes, I am.

And I love every minute of

Jane Matt Nair

it.

I know you do.

You're so into weather.

And I know, I was listening this morning on the way in when you were on Pad Croy Low on Up North News Radio.

And Snow Queen, you went a little overboard for some of those areas up north.

I understand.

You should have calmed down a little bit.

Brittany Merlot

Oh, but those areas love it and they know it.

So we did.

We saw over a foot of snow in Baldwin.

That's in St.

Croix County.

Hurley, Ashland, all of those places picking up double digits.

I mean, it's a winter wonderland once again on the south shore of Lake Superior.

Obviously, Lake Effect Snow had a big role to play with this system because those winds were everything.

Calvi Teeny

Yeah.

I

Brittany Merlot

mean, they were whipping here in Wausau.

I think we had the state record at 54 miles per hour.

Calvi Teeny

Whoa.

SPEAKER_??

Yeah.

Brittany Merlot

We didn't even get that much snow here, probably anywhere from three to five inches or so.

But.

With those winds, you could not see a thing.

It was whiteout conditions.

Jane Matt Nair

That must have been terrible.

I bet there were accidents all over the place.

Brittany Merlot

There were.

There were, unfortunately.

Jane Matt Nair

Well, I did look at the extended forecast, and at least in southeastern Wisconsin, and I assume across the state, we have this big warm-up coming.

It might almost be get out and work in the garden weather come Sunday, at least for southeastern Wisconsin.

Brittany Merlot

absolutely.

Yeah, like you said, northern Wisconsin, we're not going to get that warm.

We've got a lot of snow on the ground.

It keeps us cooler, but south.

Oh my goodness.

Yeah, you're going to be hitting fifties by the end of this weekend into the mid fifties and low sixties early next week.

But there's a price to pay.

There always is.

It's not going to stay

Jane Matt Nair

that way.

Come on.

Let's just cut her off now.

Let's just cut her off now.

We lost her contact with Brittany Merleau.

She's gone.

Calvi Teeny

No.

Brittany Merlot

Don't you want to know?

Calvi Teeny

No.

No I don't.

Because it's

Jane Matt Nair

always snow or a wintery mix.

Now see, Mother Nature always slaps back.

It's like, enjoy this.

Ha ha ha.

We're back to reality.

So after this lovely stretch of weather we're going to have next week, then what's going to happen?

Brittany Merlot

So there's a chance of a little bit of a wintry mix, obviously midweek.

It's not that significant, but the one I'm talking about, let me tell you, over St.

Patrick's Day weekend, so it looks to bring in a lot of rain again, kind of a repeat to an inch of rainfall.

flips to the mix back to snow and that goes into Monday on St.

Patrick's Day.

So just a heads up that weekend is going to be sloppy and messy.

Jane Matt Nair

Is that also going to be with the most of the snow concentrated in the northern parts of the state or is that going to be more widespread across Wisconsin?

Brittany Merlot

I'm hoping just north.

Um, but of course that track changes as we get closer.

So,

Calvi Teeny

but

Brittany Merlot

it's a big one and it's going to hit

Calvi Teeny

us.

So what you're saying, Brittany, is that St.

Patrick's Day is going to be sloppy and messy and it's going to be bad weather.

I see what you did

Brittany Merlot

there.

Green beer.

SPEAKER_??

I see what you did there.

Brittany Merlot

Green beer.

I think spring green beer.

Jane Matt Nair

How long is it going to take for that snow to melt up north?

And I know they don't want us to.

I mean, good heavens, what a great time to snowmobile if it's going to be like 28 degrees and sunny.

That sounds like perfect weather.

Brittany Merlot

It sure is.

I mean, I want to go cross-country skiing out there.

I'm not going to be freezing

Jane Matt Nair

while

Brittany Merlot

doing it.

So I think we're going to have this weekend to be able to play in it.

I think by early next week, our temperatures are going to start to hit those 40s, maybe some 50s, so it'll start to melt some of that.

But far up north, it'll still be there.

Central Wisconsin, it's going to start to dissipate.

Jane Matt Nair

I heard you mentioned butternut this morning, which always just makes me happy to know that there's a butternut, Wisconsin.

I think it's adorable.

Brittany Merlot

Did you know there's a good now?

I thought that was hysterical, writing that yesterday.

Good now, Wisconsin.

Calvi Teeny

Good now, Wisconsin.

Good now,

Brittany Merlot

the snow stopped.

Calvi Teeny

How you doing?

We're good now.

I don't know why I sound like a Southern person, but I just sounded right in my head.

Britney, you mentioned cross-country skiing.

I know it's not totally cross-country, but the Berkey just happened.

Have you ever participated in the Berkabiner?

Brittany Merlot

Um, you know, I once signed up for it.

And then when I saw what that track is like, I said, okay, there's no way I'm going to finish.

And they tried their best to tell me just to tempt it.

And I was like, you're going to be picking me up with the medical ATV only halfway through.

But I've gone in many, many years

Jane Matt Nair

to get him

Brittany Merlot

on with the cowbell covered it and stuff.

But maybe one year, I need, I need more time with more snow to actually

Jane Matt Nair

work up to it.

Yeah, work up to it.

There's a lot of hills on that course.

from what I understand.

And that's what I was surprised when

Calvi Teeny

I heard about hills.

I thought it was just the 50

Jane Matt Nair

km flat track.

No, no, no, no.

Brittany Merlot

Now I've done the Fat Tire Berkey.

It's on the same track, but you're in a Fat Tire bike.

Jane Matt Nair

That

Brittany Merlot

one I attempted.

It was pretty hard.

And we did the half marathon and the snow was mushy and my legs were mushy.

Jane Matt Nair

I bet.

But again, trying to conquer some of those hills.

With cross-country skis.

No, that's a lot of work, man.

I'd

Brittany Merlot

probably

Calvi Teeny

get as tired watching

Brittany Merlot

your body.

Jane Matt Nair

I'm sure it is.

I'm sure it's great great exercise.

Yeah, just like swimming

Calvi Teeny

works your whole body low impact with cross-country But this is I mean, I think I told the story before but I used to work with a guy who who at least when I worked with him had done the past 20 Birkabinders Birkabinders and he always like I'm doing the Birkabinder this this year and he come back and he just Look he come back on Monday

And he'd look wrecked and he'd say the same thing every year

Jane Matt Nair

as my last year.

I'm never doing it again.

Nope.

Brittany Merlot

He might have had too many shot skis or something.

Jane Matt Nair

There it is.

I am shocked that there might be drinking surrounding events at the Berkebeiner.

That's so not like Wisconsin at all.

That's

Brittany Merlot

the goal.

Jane Matt Nair

That's the finish line.

No, I can have a beer.

Brittany Merlot joins us every Thursday at this time for a little weather and wine.

Well,

We will be blessing you this weekend and into early next week with this nice warm weather.

I've got daffodils coming up in my yard already.

And then we'll yell at you next Thursday when the weather turns.

Thanks a lot, Brittany.

Really appreciate it.

News is coming up next when we return.

Paul Noonan from the Acme Packing Company will be here to talk all things sports.

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Jane Matt and Air

Good morning, welcome back to Matt and Air on Air, Jane Matt and Air, Greg Bach, and the Board Lord coming to you from our studio.

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Paul Noonan is here.

Good morning, Paul.

How's it

Paul Noonan

going?

Hey.

Good morning all.

It's going great.

Jane Matt and Air

So we'll start with the brewers.

I have signed Jose Quintana.

What can you tell us about Jose?

Paul Noonan

Jose Quintana is, first of all, a very brewer signing.

He is on a very, very affordable deal that will cost them almost nothing, four million dollars.

Totally likely there's a big option mutual option for next year never exercised Jose Quintana has been around a long time.

He's 36 years old He's pitched for every team in the division except the Reds and he's actually been

quite the brewer killer when he's been with basically everybody else.

He is getting towards the end of his career.

This will be his age, I think 37 season, but he's still pretty effective.

He is when healthy and he's mostly healthy.

He's good for about 160, 170 innings a year.

He's ERA, Halber's right in the mid threes to low fours.

And he used to be a big fastball guy.

He's not anymore.

He throws in the low nineties, but he's been

Working in a very, very nice changeup over the last few years, which is a pitch the Brewers love.

If you see a brewer who doesn't throw 100 miles an hour, he probably has one of the best changeups in baseball.

And they needed somebody to solidify the rotation.

It was looking very, very light since Brendan Woodruff won't be back until at May at the earliest.

They really only had four reliable starters coming into the season.

This will at least shore up the rotation and give them a good baseline if Woodruff Cancer suffers a setback.

If Nestor Cortez, who's new to the team, has an elbow flare up, which he's been prone to lately, this should be in good shape for starting pitching now because of this.

So it's a positive.

It's something they really did need.

Greg Bach

I'm, I'm, I'm hearing everything you're saying and I really like that as long as stays healthy as the main point.

But if I was speaking to a friend last night about this and he goes, he goes, Jose Quintana, the most brewers thing the brewers can do cause it

Paul Noonan

was

Greg Bach

cheap.

It was easy.

And we're getting them, as you said, towards the twilight of his career.

Paul Noonan

Exactly correct.

This is the Brewers era.

Everybody else is all signed.

They're scrap heaping, as they always do.

They also re-signed Marc Canna last week, who has been on the team before, and at least is good at hitting left-handed pitching, which is not nothing.

So there's that.

But this is actually a pretty good one.

His upside is pretty solid.

If Kintana can stay healthy, like I said, he's pretty good at staying healthy, all things considered.

He's probably going to be one of the three best pitchers in their rotation.

And getting an ad like that this late for not much money is a pretty savvy signing.

I actually like this one pretty well.

Jane Matt and Air

Are the viewers having money problems or something?

But I'm serious.

And my level of sports knowledge is not that great.

But all I hear about, they're just so

Paul Noonan

tight-fisted.

I do think their general cheapness is a little overstated because they have gone out and gotten halfway decent people.

Occasionally in the recent past, like I was like, yes, Monty Grandel and Mike Moustakis who are good players who they actually ponied up decent money for.

The problem they have right now, and they are a cheapish team for sure.

But they're one of the teams that does not have a solid cable deal at the moment.

They basically have a one year deal with

whatever the gambling company is now to put on their games this year.

And all of the teams that have set cable deals for multiple seasons in the future are the ones who spent or are the Dodgers or the Yankees.

And everybody in this limbo with their regional sports distribution falling apart are the teams that have not spent a dime.

And the Brewers are currently in that area.

So it's baseball is the same.

We're owned by basically a billionaire, I think.

technically, Marc Gatzenazio is a little shy of a billion.

He is.

They could spend whatever they want, but the way that they run their businesses is like businesses, and if they're not going to break even-ish at least, they're not going to spend.

Not fair.

It's maybe not how it would.

It's not what I would do if I owned a baseball team.

But it is how they all operate in lockstep.

So yes, they have money problems in the way baseball teams have money problems.

Jane Matt and Air

It just seems to me it's such a Wisconsin thing.

It's like, look at my player.

I got him on

Paul Noonan

sale.

It's very old school moneyball that way.

And that is their front office definitely prides itself on surplus value that they create in these ways.

It is a thing they do.

And reading between the lines on a lot of recent interviews with the Brewers.

One thing the Brewers do have is the league's best pitching lab.

They are the best team in baseball at taking pitchers who struggle elsewhere and turning them into

True weapons the best recent example is probably Tobias Myers who was I think their best starting pitcher last year a guy off the scrap heap that the White Sox had early in the air just cut for no reason Yeah, who throws what is literally the best change up in baseball even better than Devin Williams airbender And just took him into the lab and basically said over simplifying just throw that pitch a lot more

take back the ones that you're not as good at and it instantly made him like a top third starter in the league.

They're just really good at that and they're kind of content to ride their pitching lab to success at the expensive kind of everything else.

Greg Bach

It just sort of sounds like they're happy with being a major league, minor league team.

Like they're happy with helping people out and you go out in the world and do your best.

The thing that sticks with me though, Paul, and I don't remember if we discussed it with you or we discussed it with JR, but.

That interview that Marc Antanasio gave a couple of weeks ago, well, it's just the most Pollyanna junk.

Like, well, I want to make deals, but the front offer says I can't.

No, dude, you're the owner and the office wants to make these deals.

Like you're not as, you're not as dumb as you're making yourself.

And, and also the whole thing of like, we don't know how baseball financials work.

Yes, you do.

You're the guy in charge of the checkbook.

And third, when he says, I'm not in charge of winning world series.

Yes, you are.

The buck stops with you, bruh.

Because if I'm a player on The Brewers and I read that, I'm like, why am I here if my owner doesn't have a vested interest in getting a ring?

Paul Noonan

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was me.

And that quote was very, very garbled and a little noisy.

I don't think he meant it's not my job to not win World Series.

I'm not going to put words in his mouth because who knows what he meant by that.

He needs, if anything,

Marc Atzanazio needs better people to tell him what to say.

The context of that was around the Christian Yellich extension that they did.

And it was about whether it was for fan, to make the fans feel good about signing somebody or to win.

And it, depending on how you want to read that, could be a criticism of the Yellich signing, which at the time I think was good, even though it was back abound on him.

But Marc needs to just not talk, honestly.

Owners, most owners are so good at just blathering on and not saying anything interesting.

I'll give Mark this.

He says interesting things, but they usually get people mad at him.

And the timing of that with the state just having given them another half a billion dollars.

Did you upgrades that they were frankly obligated to do themselves?

Yep.

I think technically speaking is just the most tone deaf thing ever.

Like the owners should view themselves as having don't just don't do damage.

You're not going to be super popular unless you go inside a bunch of guys.

If you're not doing that, you can only hurt yourself by talking.

So just do platitudes.

Have your team win.

I mean, they won the division last year.

Just fall back on that.

Say, hey, we win a lot.

That's all you have to do.

You don't need to be doing all the rest of this.

Say, our stuff is working is good enough.

But nah, he is not a polished speaker.

Greg Bach

What

Paul Noonan

do you

Greg Bach

think about the new season?

We win divisions.

We love Milwaukee.

Just keep saying that.

There you go.

There's your

Jane Matt and Air

script and you're done.

Boom.

Paul Newton is our guest from the Acme packing company.

We are talking all things sports.

So Bobby Portis got suspended from their bucks and the bucks are now seven and one.

Paul Noonan

They are on an absolute tear and Bobby Portis is interesting in that he is

if deployed properly useful, but he can also get himself in trouble on the court.

And I don't think a lot of this is noise.

I don't think they're winning necessarily because he's gone.

But they've had a good run of health here with having Yanis and Damian Lillard in pretty good shape.

Kuzma did suffer a sprained ankle, but he's been playing.

And it's I think if nothing else been a good opportunity to sort of generate chemistry with the new mix after the trade deadline.

And

Bobby Portis is, if nothing else, chaotic.

He's a high variance player.

I mean, he was extremely important to our last title that we won.

They don't win that title without Bobby Portis.

But he can be as bad as he is good.

And they have had quite a lot of bad Bobby this year.

And having him out of the lineup takes some variance away, if nothing else.

There's some less talented players on the Bucks to get more run when he's not there.

But it also kind of forces them to go with their, with Yanis, with Lillard and with Kuzma more and not appease Bobby getting him the ball every once in a while.

I think it's been good for him.

So hopefully while Bobby is suspended, he takes some notes here.

And when he comes back, you know, plays a little bit more into the role that he was in when they did win a title, but they've looked really good.

And it's they've had

Not the hardest schedule, but when they've played bad teams, they've beaten them badly.

Like they've lit up Dallas in their last game.

They've played them two at last three.

But they look like they're back to making contender.

They've climbed back into the four seed, which is, you want to be the four or the three or better as the playoffs roll around.

And if they can just, the health is everything.

Calvin

This

Paul Noonan

is an old team and health is everything.

But if they can run, make the, keep the four seed and develop with Portis gone and get some other people some run.

They can be contenders again.

Giannis is playing better than anybody in the league right now.

They look great.

Jane Matt and Air

I would love to see them kind of do a surprise.

We didn't expect, you know, have them get back in the playoffs and take the whole thing.

That would just be a beautiful thing.

It

Paul Noonan

really would.

It really... Lillard and Giannis is what it comes down to.

And if Giannis is playing at this level, he is currently playing at the same or better as...

his MVP seasons and his championship season.

And it's just a matter of being able to keep this up.

for another couple of months.

So we'll see.

Sometimes that happens.

Every once in a while, a team of veterans will run into a run of good health and get it done, and hopefully this is one of those.

Jane Matt and Air

We'll be sending healthy thoughts.

Healthy thoughts.

Healthy thoughts

Paul Noonan

to granola vibes,

Jane Matt and Air

yogurts,

Paul Noonan

things like that.

Sit

Jane Matt and Air

ups.

The NFL Combine happened, and a free agency begins soon.

What does that all mean?

Paul Noonan

the packers will definitely be shopping because they have a couple of positions of need and they have money, which they haven't had in a while.

They're starting to get Roger's space clear.

The people that keep an eye on free agency-wise, Devante is a free man.

And I don't know that they would necessarily want to have him back, but he does fit a need for them and that he's a great leader of man defenses, which they really struggled with last year.

would play outside.

But the real thing to keep an eye on is the Seattle Seahawks are going to trade DK Metcalf.

They're very good, very tall, very big, very fast wide receiver.

He's asked for a trade.

They've been engaged in talks, and the Packers have reportedly been engaged in those talks for something like a second round pick and probably one of Romeo, Dobbins, or Don Tavion wicks if they can get it done going back.

He would be a perfect fit.

He would basically replace what Christian Watson does.

He's better than

Christian Watson.

He is still relatively young.

If they can get that done, that would be phenomenal.

Combine-wise, they need to fill that position.

The guy to keep an eye on where he's going to end up going is Jaden Higgins, who's a receiver for Iowa State.

This draft doesn't have a lot of big receivers in it.

He's the best big one.

The Packers will have their eye on him.

It's what they need more than anything else except edge rushers.

One of the better edge rushers Max Crosby just resigned with the Raiders.

That's too bad.

There's still a few guys out there, but keep an eye on the DK Metcalf side.

That would be a big splash and a fun signing if they can get that done.

Calvin

Calvin, do you want

Jane Matt and Air

to jump in

Calvin

here?

Well, I was just going to comment.

I don't think the DK Metcalf trade as awesome as it would be.

It just doesn't feel like something the Packers would do.

But who knows?

Maybe they'll surprise me.

Hoping fingers crossed we can bring Devontae back.

I think that I think you could get him back relatively cheap And I think his leadership is exactly what our young receiving court needs.

I agree

Paul Noonan

with that too.

It'd be fun.

He's a good influence Don Tavion Wicks who is going to be entering his third year is a lot like Devontae Adams that their careers have really matched up well so far He'd be a great mentor for him specifically

Jane Matt and Air

Paul Noonan joins us every other Thursday from the Acme Packing Company.

Thank you so very much, Paul.

We will see you in a couple.

Go pack, go crew, go bucks.

Coming up, we're gonna

Greg Bach

wrap up the

Jane Matt and Air

show as we always do with this.

Shouldn't be a thing.

Today it is the This Too Shall Pass Eventually Edition.

Don't go away.

You're listening to Matt Nair on air on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Jane Matinair (host)

Welcome back to Matinair on Air.

Jane Matinair, Greg Bach, Calviente on the board coming to you from our studio at Radio Park in Racine.

You can join us, call or text.

at 855-752-4842.

Leave a comment if you're watching on the livestream, on Facebook, YouTube, and what used to be Twitter coming up on the show tomorrow.

It's Friday, Dan Schaefer will be here from the Reconvobulation Area.

Also, Civic Media's political editor at 11 o'clock, Pete Schwabba, host of Nightlight.

Here we go.

Is gonna be joining us at 11.30 tomorrow.

He finally saw green and gold.

Yep.

Gonna have the discussion.

Calviente (audio engineer)

Yep.

Jane Matinair (host)

about this major plot flaw.

I know I'm obsessing about this, but I'm really curious to see if... Just a little tiny bit.

Smidge.

Yeah, smidgen.

I'm really curious to see if Pete swatted... Pete saw the flaw.

If Pete saw the flaw in Green and Gold, the movie, which I loved, and I think you would love it too, go see it.

It's a really sweet, heartwarming film, and you'll feel good after you see it.

Except for that one major.

Oh, all right.

Oh, again, Pete Schwabba will be here tomorrow at 11 33 right now the way 11 53 Calvin that means it is time for

Greg Bach (contributor)

This shouldn't be a thing

Jane Matinair (host)

As always if you ever have a thing you think should not be send it into Greg and me Jane says at civic media dot US J A N E S A Y S Jane says at civic media

U.S.

This is from WFLA.com in Florida.

Surprise.

From Rachel Tucker with the byline headline reads, Florida man swallows almost $800,000 in stolen jewelry from Tiffany and company in Orlando.

Jathan Lawrence Gilder, 32, pretended he was representing a player for the Orlando Magic.

went into this jewelry store and said, Hey, I'm repping for this guy.

Yeah.

I want to see, you know, some, some high end stuff.

Show me the goods.

Show me the goods.

Yeah.

So he actually walked the forest his way out of the store with a pair of earrings worth $769,500.

A pair of almost five carat diamond earrings worth $160,000.

and a pair of eight-carat diamond earrings.

Do you know how big that is?

That's huge.

An eight-carat diamond is large, worth $600,9500, and accused of stealing a ring, worth almost $500,000.

So again, he goes into this jewelry store, says, I'm repping for a player from the Magic.

Let me see all this stuff.

And then he takes it and he runs.

They did stop his car.

where he was arrested on a charge of resisting also a minor 48 outstanding warrants out of Colorado.

A body scan conducted at the jail appeared to solve the mystery of at least the missing earrings.

They were not found on him.

They were found in his stomach.

Calviente (audio engineer)

That is absolutely crazy.

Cause anyone who knows anything about earrings, that could.

Really?

Oh, big time.

How

Jane Matinair (host)

big carrot diamonds?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, the foreign objects are suspected to be the Tiffany and company earrings taken in the robbery, but they will need to be collected.

It's such a nice way to call it after they pass through the suspects system prior to confirming that these are the stolen jewels.

Gilder, unfortunately, did just ask jail staff out of nowhere.

Am I going to be charged for what's in my stomach?

Yeah, you probably shouldn't have said that.

Florida, man.

Arresting trooper reported hearing Gilder say, I should have just thrown him out the window.

Calviente (audio engineer)

Okay, I have so many.

If Todd Alba is listening right now, can we cut into your first whole segment?

Because I have

Jane Matinair (host)

a lot of questions.

Calviente (audio engineer)

First of all, you thought to yourself, I should have thrown out the yes, absolutely.

Or

under the chair, under your seat, in your car, lots of things you could have done, glove compartment, I could go on.

Five options.

Just the diamonds alone, you could swallow an eight carat diamond, I think, depending

Jane Matinair (host)

on it.

If it wasn't

Calviente (audio engineer)

mounted.

Jane Matinair (host)

If it's not

Calviente (audio engineer)

mounted.

If it's just a loose gem, it's not gonna be great.

Yes, but it's an earring, so therefore it's mounted and it has sharpie points.

Yes.

And if it's got, if it's a diamond, my guess is there's tiny little diamonds too.

I mean,

the idea of passing it, the idea of the other way, either way, just put him in the hospital and take him out because that could end up

Jane Matinair (host)

killing him.

It's not going to be fun.

No, not going to be a pleasant experience.

He has been charged with first degree grand theft and robbery with a mask.

A search of his criminal history also reveals in 2022, he robbed another Tiffany and company store in Texas, but apparently that's one he got away with.

That wraps up today's

Greg Bach (contributor)

edition of... This shouldn't be a thing.

Yeah, don't do

Jane Matinair (host)

that.

News is coming up next, followed by Todd Alba, from noon to two, Maggie Dawn, two to four, Dom Salvia, four to six, and the great Pete Schwabba, six to eight.

PM, Pat Critello kicks it all off early mornings from six to eight on Up North News Radio and then Earl Ingram right before us.

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