We Need TO Keep Our Court Fair (Hour 2)

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We Need TO Keep Our Court Fair (Hour 2)

Matenaer on Air · Thu Feb 27, 2025

Jane Matenaer

Good morning.

Welcome.

Welcome to Matt Nair on air.

Jay Matt Nair, Greg Bott, Calvin Butenoff coming to you live from our home here at Radio Park in Racine where you can join us.

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Yes, we have another election less than five weeks from today.

April 1st, Wisconsin voting for who will take a spot.

on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Brad Schimmel is running against Judge Susan Crawford, who joins us now on the phone.

Judge Crawford, thank you so very much for joining us.

Oh, wait, we put up the wrong picture.

Apologies for that on our live stream.

Calvin, can you switch that?

There we go.

Judge Crawford, thank you so much for joining us this morning.

Oh, thanks so much for having me, Jane.

Jane Matenaer

Judge Crawford, I wanted to start off with this.

Brad Schimmel, who is your opponent, has come down on the side of the January 6th attackers.

at the U.S.

Capitol, he says that they weren't given a fair shot in court.

At the same time, you are being accused of being soft on crime.

How do you respond to that accusation?

Yeah, you know, I was really shocked to hear that Brad Schimmel, who, you know, really touts his law and order credential was making excuses and defending these

you know, this violent mob that stormed the Capitol and attacked Capitol police officers.

So I think it just shows that, you know, his support for law enforcement is just on the surface.

It's not something he really believes in.

And, you know, I'm somebody who has deep experience as a prosecutor and later as a lawyer, defending people in court and now as a judge.

I'm just astonished at Brad Schimmel's defense of those people.

And then even he went so far as to say he had no objection to President Trump's blanket pardons of everybody involved in that insurrection.

So, you know, I'm almost at a loss for words.

comment on that.

Jane Matenaer

Judge Crawford, you are being hit pretty hard though on some of the cases that you've ruled on in the past.

Yeah, you know, that's Elon Musk's money, hard at work, trying to distort my record on public safety.

Those ads have, you know, all kinds of lies and misrepresentations in them.

I'm proud of the work I have done, both as prosecutor and as a judge.

I always put public safety first.

I make sure I give crime victims rights protection in the process.

And, you know, they're talking about cases where I sentenced people to several years in prison and long periods of supervision by the Department of Corrections afterwards.

Meanwhile, you know, we have

reams of cases, dozens of cases, where Brad Schimmel gave people no jail time or short jail time and released them for crimes like domestic violence and child abuse.

And those people went on to re-offend, you know.

That's the real test of sentences, did those people go on to create new victims and hurt people again?

And, you know, that's Brad Schimmel's record.

Jane Matenaer

Well, it's interesting that you say that right before you joined us, we were talking about some of the January 6th attackers who received those blanket pardons and a number of them had previous convictions or even current convictions involving rape and sexual assault.

And as you said, sexual abuse of minors.

Yep.

Yep.

A lot of those folks were, you know, repeat offenders and it wouldn't shock me if.

Those people go on to commit additional crimes now that they're back at large in the community.

It's really a shame.

Jane Matenaer

If you're just joining us, Judge Susan Crawford is joining us on the phone.

She is a candidate for the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

The.

Election is on April 1st.

And if you're not sure where to go, if you're not registered to vote, please take care of that.

Go to myvote.wi.gov.

All you have to do is put in your address and that will tell you what's on your ballot, who all of your elected officials are, how you can contact them, et cetera.

I also wanted to talk, Judge Crawford, about the 1849 abortion ban, which right now is on hold in Wisconsin.

But it also seems like Brad Schimmel is very much in favor of that law, which, if I understand it correctly, only has exceptions for the life of the mother, but even that comes with some caveats.

Yeah, absolutely.

And Brad Schimmel has said repeatedly that he thinks there's nothing wrong with that law, and it should be fully enforced.

And like you said, no exceptions for things like rape or incest or even sexually abused children in that law.

As I've been out campaigning, I have had doctors and midwives and women approach me and tell me really personal stories about women who were forced to go out of state for health care while that law was briefly in effect before the judge put it on hold.

And those are scary stories.

You know, these are women who were having a crisis in a pregnancy and needed health care and they were unable to get it in their own state and had to be transported to, you know, Minnesota or Illinois or wherever.

And that's, you know,

that has to be concerning to every voter in Wisconsin.

And I say every voter, not every woman, but every voter in Wisconsin should be concerned that a candidate for the Wisconsin Supreme Court thinks that that's no problem.

Jane Matenaer

And I think it's important, Judge Crawford, that folks also understand that just because this 1849 ban is on hold right now, that doesn't mean that the full range of services are available all over the state of Wisconsin.

We had a guest on earlier this week.

young married woman with a wanted pregnancy who had complications.

I believe it was in the second trimester.

She had to wait almost 24 hours before she was able to get the care that she needed and she developed sepsis and now is having problems conceiving and having another wanted child.

Yeah, exactly.

You know, there's just story after story like that.

And I was talking to an OBGYN the other day who told me that

before the 1849 ban was put on hold that they literally had patients who were, you know, lying in a hospital bed in critical condition while the doctors are in a huddle, you know, talking about, you know, is it close enough to her losing her life?

Can we take action?

Because they're concerned about liability, you know, doctors and hospitals are really worried about liability and they're, you know,

they're not going to rush into something.

So that's one of the problems with these laws that make an exception only for the life of the mother is how close to death are you going to let the woman get before you give her health care services?

It is.

Jane Matenaer

We've

heard those stories over and over.

That's where we're at and that's the result of the Dobbs decision from the US Supreme Court that took away over almost 50 years of constitutional protections that women could rely on.

Jane Matenaer

We were just accused by a listener of citing an outlying case of this Laurel who joined us this week.

This is not an outlier.

This is happening in emergency rooms.

Good heavens, we've talked about cases where women have been bleeding out.

in the parking lots of emergency rooms because they're not close enough to dead yet to get health care.

Exactly, exactly.

And I've had health care providers, as I said, approach me and tell me those stories themselves.

And it is somebody saying this is an outlier.

Well, how many women are you going to let die?

How many outliers before you do something about it?

You know and Brad Schimmel, you know one other thing with his position.

He said, oh we could have a referendum put it to the voters.

Well, Wisconsin law doesn't allow that.

We don't have a way to just let voters directly decide on an issue like abortion rights in Wisconsin.

You know, that's why it's in the courts and he wants to sort of pass the buck and say

you know, let the voters determine this in a referendum, which is impossible, or let the legislature decide this.

And again, the legislature has shown no interest in it, and that's why it's in the courts.

Jane Matenaer

We're talking about this before you joined us.

And essentially, it's it's his way to make himself look reasonable.

Like I just want to do what the voters want.

And all we have to do is have a statewide referendum, even though that is not a thing that exists in Wisconsin.

Exactly.

Yeah, he's, you know, he is trying to run away from his record.

He has been a long time opponent of abortion rights, dating back to at least 2012 when he signed on to Wisconsin Right to Life White Paper that said, you know, when Roe versus Wade is overturned, that 1849 law will go into effect.

He was advocating for that way back then.

Then as Attorney General, he was fighting to defend unconstitutional restrictions on abortion rights in Wisconsin, and not just in Wisconsin, but he was trying to defend unconstitutional restrictions on abortion rights, even in other states, waiting into litigation in other states to argue against women's reproductive health care rights.

So he's got a long, long record on this issue.

Hired a top lawyer into the Wisconsin Department of Justice, who we now know was

part of the conservative legal movement that developed a legal strategy to overturn Roe versus Wade.

And now he's saying,

Jane Matenaer

oh,

you know, gosh, Dobbs just sent it back to the states and maybe there can be a referendum.

This is a problem of Brad Schimel's own making.

This is what he wanted to see happen is for women to lose this constitutional protection.

And, you know, now he's trying to run away from that record.

Greg Bach

I think we played a clip of him.

talking and he asked the question, where is the flaw?

How is this wrong?

And to ask the question of a 19th century law, what's flawed with that?

Looking back now, almost 200 years later, to not even look at the language and say, what's wrong with this?

That says a lot about who he is.

And just the fact that he doesn't know that the people can't vote on a binding

Jane Matenaer

referendum.

He knows that.

I

Greg Bach

mean, or to play up that is just absolutely.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah.

Judge Crawford, we're just about out of time.

I know a lot of folks are wondering when you're going to take the gloves off and start running some ads and getting out in front of some of these attacks on you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, we've got more ads coming and I'll defend my record any day.

Like I said, I've always been about the safety of the community.

And, you know, we're going to fight off the lies paid for by Elon Musk.

And you know why Elon Musk is in this.

He thinks that Brad Schimmel is

you know, gonna be his bag man on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

And that's something that Brad Schimmel's really familiar with.

He once called himself Scott Walker's bag man back when he was attorney general and he's willing to sell out justice to the highest bidder.

Jane Matenaer

Just one more thing.

Do you promise not to have commemorative coins if you're elected to the Wisconsin Supreme Court and spend $10,000 of our taxpayer money on those?

Absolutely.

I will make that promise here and now.

Jane Matenaer

Appreciate that.

Thanks, Jane.

Judge Susan Crawford on the phone.

Thank you so much for your time, Judge Crawford.

Really, really appreciate it.

Stay with us.

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With this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it's the Flipping Your Wig edition.

It's a good one.

You may want to stick around for that.

She joins us every Thursday at this time for a little weather and wine.

Civic media's meteorologist, Brittany Merleau, is here.

Good morning.

I know you're sad, Brittany.

Brittney Merlot

I am.

I know.

I'm so sad.

I have been crying just as much as the snow has been melting across the state, honestly.

That's

Greg Bach

a lot.

I talked to a doctor.

You're

Jane Matenaer

a

Greg Bach

winter.

I

Jane Matenaer

want

Greg Bach

to.

Jane Matenaer

You're a winter weather fan.

You're all into the winter sports and snowmobiling and cross country skiing and all those things.

And yeah, those opportunities just kind of went woosh.

Brittney Merlot

Yep, they are gone.

Just as fast as they got here, they melted away.

I mean, we're just a muddy mess up north now.

I know it is down south as well, but I mean, we went from 12 inches of snow on the ground to just some piles now, you know, the plowed piles that are lingering.

Some shaded areas in the woods still have a little bit of snow, but even far up north, Hurley, Wisconsin only has four inches on the ground, so.

all snowmobiling done, skiing, everything, like you said.

Jane Matenaer

Well, the Berke got off okay, which is a good thing.

The Berkebiner got to do a regular run this year as opposed to last year.

But I was kind of surprised.

I know in the Milwaukee area in southeastern Wisconsin, we didn't get nearly the snow that you did.

But even looking around my neighborhood, all I could think of was

Most of it got absorbed, and that shows me just how far behind we are as far as moisture is concerned.

Brittney Merlot

Yes, absolutely.

50% of the state, as of early last week, was in a moderate drought.

So half of the state needed this melt, they needed the precipitation, and we definitely have more on the ways.

So it's not going to stop here, and we're entering, you know, as these seasons shift, the flooding season, another bucket of concerns headed our way.

Jane Matenaer

So what is coming?

What are we looking at today's Thursday?

What are we looking at for the weekend and then even into early next week?

Because I know you don't like to forecast too far out.

Brittney Merlot

Yeah, so the biggest concern right now is the lakes, the Great Lakes, honestly.

We're going to see some winds very, very feisty, gusting up to about 40 to 50 miles per hour on land.

This is going to start overnight tonight and through tomorrow.

All across Wisconsin?

Yes, yes.

So we're going to see some potentially wind advisories going out.

We could see some power outages.

So the brutal winds will have to battle.

But here's the thing.

We went from ice coverage on the lakes to a rapid melt.

I mean, they lost like 20% of ice coverage.

So everything's broken up and melting.

And then they're going to get these waves.

There's gale watches and warnings on Lake Superior and Lake Michigan.

And if you think about them climbing up to 10 feet high, moving those ice sheets around.

We're looking at potentially some damage that could happen along lakeshores.

So Lake Michigan tomorrow morning will be your biggest threat.

But then the wind shift and then it turns to the south shore of Lake Superior tomorrow afternoon and through those evening hours.

So lakeshore areas kind of looking out for that ice kind of moving in and shoving on shore.

That's going to be the next thing.

And then also river areas.

We have all this melt that just melted on this precipitation takes a minute for it to get to the river basins.

They're starting to swell.

So right here in Wausau, we're in an action level right now on the Wisconsin River.

So we could see some flooding pretty soon.

And I'm just watching those river gauges rise and rise across the state.

I mean, the ground was still frozen.

We still have frost about 15 to 32 inch depth out there.

So this water has got to go into those rivers and those ice chunks are going to break up and start floating down and then they could get jammed in.

cause more flooding, so flooding season, guys.

Jane Matenaer

If you've never seen the impact of ice shoves, just do a Google search on it.

For those of us who don't live along the lakeshore and, you know, along the shores of one of the Great Lakes, that can be massively destructive.

Brittney Merlot

Yes, nothing stops them.

They'll push houses right off their foundation if there's enough and these winds are going to be strong enough.

Jane Matenaer

Any more precipitation coming our way in the next week or so?

Any more rain on the way?

Brittney Merlot

So we're looking at a quick shot of light snow up north tonight.

But other than that, we have a big cold front pushing through tomorrow, which is why it's going to get so windy.

So that could spark up a few scattered showers or a few flurries with that as it moves through tomorrow afternoon.

But then we're really keeping an eye on the bigger storm that hits Tuesday and into Wednesday next week.

This one is going to pack a punch.

It's got a lot of precipitation with it and moisture and it could put down some snow accumulating into portions of the state.

Now, of course, we don't know exactly where accepting is changing and bouncing everywhere, but it is going to hit Wisconsin and we are looking at a good one to two inches of precip.

So in the form of rain or in the form of snow depends where you live.

Jane Matenaer

And that's Tuesday, Wednesday.

Brittney Merlot

Yep, and that's a big massive amount of pre-sip after we just melted all that snow.

Right, right is definitely going to be happening by next weekend in a lot of places.

Greg Bach

I want to reiterate something.

I think you mentioned on a patch show last week that for the most part, and by your expertise in your wizardry work and weathering, we're out of the cold snaps.

The deep freeze colds were moved past that point.

And now, you know, we're going to have those 30s and 40s days, but none of these 30 below zero days.

And is that, is that by your best, by your best judgment, is that where we're at?

Brittney Merlot

Yes, I think we're out of that no more deep freeze Arctic cold blast or anything like that Now again temperatures gonna be shifting even Saturday.

We're gonna be all below freezing in the in the 20s So that's kind of a swing.

We're gonna be going through as we go through the next few months, but no

pretty much major warmups and some mild cold snaps behind it is what we're looking forward to.

Jane Matenaer

It's only, we're only at the end of February.

We have all a march we got to get through yet.

Mother Nature every once in a while likes to come in with one of those March storms and it's that really heavy wet snow which disappears in two days, but it's a major pain in the neck.

So we're not completely out of the woods yet.

Brittney Merlot

No, we're not.

I see a couple of those in the future.

So hang on tight.

Jane Matenaer

She's smiling.

She's

Greg Bach

happy.

Of course she's smiling.

She's

Brittney Merlot

like Dr. Evil over

Greg Bach

here.

Inconvenient snow makes you happy.

Brittney Merlot

Hey, it's my job.

That's right.

I give me something to do.

Greg Bach

That's

Brittney Merlot

exactly.

Southern California.

I couldn't do it.

Nope.

Too boring.

Jane Matenaer

How boring would Hawaii be for a meteorologist, right?

Why bother?

Brittney Merlot

No

Jane Matenaer

way.

Yeah.

Why bother?

It's the same every day.

Greg Bach

Until it's a hurricane and they're like, oh, it's gonna get windy.

Jane Matenaer

Keep an eye on

Greg Bach

the

Jane Matenaer

winds tonight and tomorrow and especially if you've got big trees The ground is pretty saturated so that might cause some issues and maybe some power down to power lines as well Brittany Merlot is civic media meteorologist for a little weather and wine She joins us every Thursday.

Thank you so much.

Brittany really appreciate it.

Thank you Stay with us.

We're gonna talk all things sports with JR Radcliffe from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on the other side of the news you are listening to

The Civic Media Radio Network.

Good morning.

Welcome back to Matt and air on air Jane Matt and air Greg Bach Calviente on the board coming to you from our studio at Radio Park in Racine You can join us caller text at 855-752-4842 Leave a comment if you're watching in the livestream on Facebook YouTube and what used to be Twitter coming up on about 15 minutes We'll wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing today.

It is the

Flipping your wig edition, if you ever have a thing you think should not be, send it in to Greg and me at janesaysatcivicmedia.us, J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S, janesaysatcivicmedia.us.

Our next guest joins us every other Thursday to talk all things sports.

Journal Sentinel Sports Guru, JR Radcliffe is here.

Good morning, JR.

How are you doing?

Good morning, friends.

How are all of you?

We are good.

Good to see you.

Where would we like to start with sports balls?

How about March Madness?

Oh, yeah, we're almost there, right?

We are a couple days away from the start of March Madness.

So a couple things to watch if you are a Wisconsin sports Wisconsin basketball fan.

The University of Wisconsin is kind of in this.

They're really close to sewing up a chance to appear in Milwaukee.

Milwaukee will be hosting games at Pfizer Forum here for the, for the second time in four years, because they were here in 2022 as well.

So I guess, yeah, second and four.

Wisconsin was here last time.

There is a process through which teams that do very well get some geographic preference.

And the Badgers are in really good shape to play here.

I still think even after they had a really bad loss to Oregon a few days ago where they let a big lead get away.

It was just a very confounding loss, actually.

They're still in really good position to do that.

So they got to keep winning all the games they're supposed to.

And there's a big game coming up against Michigan State.

They could stand to win that too.

That would be nice.

That would probably guarantee it.

It's not a guarantee right now, but it's pretty close to one.

So that's something that I think people are going to be interested in.

Marquette will not be in Milwaukee there.

contractually and not allowed to be as the host, but they've been slipping a little bit.

They've had a rough go.

They had a really convincing win over Providence on Tuesday night.

So they're off the Schneiden to some degree, but it has not been a good second half of the season.

So they're still in the national rankings.

They're still in the 20s.

But it remains to be seen exactly how far they're going to fall in these seeds.

It was shaping up like there were going to be a two seed again this year, and that's not going to happen now.

So that's interesting.

And UW-Milwaukee is the horizon league where both UW-GB and UW-Milwaukee play.

There's chaos usually in the tournament.

It could be really any team.

Milwaukee, I think, has the capability to win that tournament.

They're not the top seed.

They won't be favored.

But they could easily sneak in as well.

Also, that's almost certainly not a team that will play in Milwaukee.

Although that's not ruled out.

It's very, very unlikely.

So yeah, there's plenty to follow here if you're a basketball

Jane Matenaer

fan.

Do you bracket?

And if you do, how much pressure is on you as a sports reporter to have like the best of brackets?

Greg Bach

Do you even bracket, bro?

My bracket, bro.

Um, I am far too high culture for bracketing.

I do a player draft where I draft 10 players along with several of my friends and most points wins at the end of the tournament.

Last year I had the number one overall pick.

I got Zach Edie, that seven foot monster for Purdue.

I won.

It was not of any volition of my own.

I just won because I got lucky, but, but whatever.

No, I, I think, I think I like.

envision a bracket.

I don't enter any bracket contest usually only because I can throw in a bunch of caveats that and this is true.

Nobody knows how this is going to go.

Like no one can predict the future in the NCAA tournament.

It is always random, always wild.

It usually shakes out at the end that teams that are in the final four certainly deserve to be there.

But but it might not be the top four teams in the tournament.

In fact, it almost never is the top four teams in the tournament.

So so it is a complete and exact wild science.

you know, every radio interview, I can, I can give you a matchup.

I can tell you who the, you know, like whether or not they, they match up favorably or whatever, but like, they could lose by 20 points.

You have no way, no way of knowing.

So it's, it's a very humbling experience, whether or not you're a sports guru.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and to me, that's one of the best things about the NCAA tournament is the fact that someone who you never expected could come and pull this off comes in and does the big upset.

I think that's a beautiful thing.

And then for people like me who fill out their brackets, depending upon uniform color, and if I like the name of the mascot, you know, then I have a better chance as well.

My daughter did fill one out last year based solely on which mascot she preferred.

She's 10 years old.

She did not fare better than me in this particular.

Okay.

All

Greg Bach

right.

It's fine.

Wow.

I

just want to be clear, but she easily could write like it's it's such it's and now that we have

had a couple instances where 16 seeds beat the one seed.

That was like the last frontier of normalcy where you could rely on, no matter what happens, the one seeds are always going to beat those 16 seeds in the first round.

Well, now it's happened twice that a 16 seed has beaten the one.

So now nothing is safe.

This is nothing you could predict.

Pretty likely the one seed is going to win, but you know, there's really no way to know for sure.

It's all, it's all, it's all crazy.

Greg Bach

But here's what we can report to you right now, folks, breaking news.

JR Radcliffe is better than his daughter.

Let's go.

That's right.

Now, Lydia,

Jane Matenaer

bring it.

I just bring it.

10 year old.

Greg Bach

I think I think that's how you I think that's how you you advertise the NCAA tournament.

You'd be like, Hey, your team could win it all or not.

CBS Sports.

I mean, this is one of the big problems with college basketball in general is you have a lot of people asking somewhat fairly, why do I watch all these months of regular season when the only thing that matters is the series of coin flips that happened

Jane Matenaer

in

mid to late March.

Like I totally get that.

I mean, like I said, at the end, the top four teams are

almost always teams that did not luck their way there.

Either they were a lower level team that really played at an elite level, or they're just really good teams.

I actually, I think Wisconsin could be one of those teams.

Like that's the thing about it is this Badger's team is

This organ loss is so frustrating because it falls in line with other previous like late season Badgers reminders that oh, they're not that good, but this team is really good I think this was just a weird one-off loss that they lost an overtime like so many crazy weird things had to go wrong I think this team is good enough and avoids the lulls that unfortunately

This game was an example of, but typically avoids those offensive lulls that have haunted past Badger's teams.

I think this is a really good Wisconsin team.

I think they're very much a candidate to go to the Final Four and it would not hurt to have the first two games in, you know, in Milwaukee.

Yeah, that'd be great.

Greg Bach

The question would be hard as an audience.

The city would be insane on fire.

You bet.

Jane Matenaer

J.R.

Redcliffe is here to talk all things sports.

Let's move on to the Bucks.

And what is going on?

Well, they've

been okay lately, but they're they're finally getting healthy.

They lost on Tuesday to Houston.

I found that game.

I found it encouraging because I think they played really, really good defense against a really good team on the road.

They did only score 12 points in the fourth quarter, which is really quite bad.

They only gave up 15, which was quite quite incredible.

But but 12 points.

I mean, they missed a lot of shots that I think they probably would make if they took the same shots again.

You know, for them, it is it is just about getting healthy and they are

in the middle of the pack in the Eastern Conference among playoff teams.

They're like in the four or five.

Don't really want them to get lower than that because then they get into this play in part of the tournament where they're going to wind up having to really sing for their supper and win games just to get in to face the really good teams.

You don't want that.

So that requires them to get a top six seed.

I think they're probably going to get that pretty safely.

The Pistons are on fire.

That's a problem.

The Bucks are back and forth with the Pacers.

Those teams are going to kind of be competing for the same terrain at this point.

So if you are a Bucks fan late in the season, cheer against Detroit and against Indiana, that might be against your instincts of similar sized markets that you normally cheer for, but like those are the bad guys right now.

And I do think.

As Yannis is getting past this minutes restriction after he dinged up his calf a little bit.

Damian Lillard, I think, looks pretty good.

Maybe not as good as we've seen him, but really good.

And Kyle Kuzma is up and down a little bit, but the new guys fitting in with those two guys.

And I think it's going OK for them.

I still don't see this team as a deep playoff team.

I haven't seen anything that convinces me otherwise.

But I do think this is a pretty good version of them.

Really good game on Thursday against Denver.

Denver, that's at Pfizer Forum.

That's five of the, you know, between Nikola Yolkic and Yanis, you've got five of the last six MVP trophies.

So that's pretty sweet.

Uh, if, if he does indeed play, which there's no reason to think he won't Nikola Yolkic, um, that would be, that'd be really cool.

So, uh, if, if you've got, uh, got nothing to do tonight, that'd be a cool thing to do.

Go check out the box.

Greg Bach

So I have a question that kind of broken into a couple of pieces and it says, Brad's a basketball question.

So you're welcome listeners.

There is always rumors about if this bucks team doesn't do well this season that.

Giannis might look other places to be.

I don't know how, start there.

I don't know how true that is.

Then on top of that, how good do the bucks have to do?

And I'm saying take a championship out of the running, but how good do they have to do for him to say, no, I'm going to stay here.

And if they just peter out in the first round, as he say, I'm going to lose my options.

So Lori Nichol, my colleague, did a really cool two-part series on Yanis.

One landed today, one yesterday, so I really encourage if people are interested.

It was a really candid interview and really tried to get into the psychology of how Yanis would answer this question, you know?

And I, first of all, I do think national media has a little bit of a...

I'm trying to use an appropriate word here.

They really like talking about this.

They're really into moving honest to another team.

More so than I would say comparable superstars.

I don't ever really understand that relative.

Like I can understand if it's, you know, you just don't get this for Yolkic, who plays for Denver,

Jane Matenaer

you know,

like if you want to, that's not a powerhouse market.

I don't know why people aren't saying, when is Yolkic going to move?

Yeah, they won a championship, but when did they get, when is he going to go to New York or LA, you know, and.

All I can think of is there's two things about Yanis.

One, he does play in Milwaukee, which is not a powerhouse, you know, by national standards, powerhouse market.

And two, he likes to talk.

He answers these questions and he talks about it and he entertains the possibility that someday he will want to move on.

And Lori, I think really did a good job kind of going in there.

Like he can't, he can't say to himself, I'll never want to go somewhere else.

Like he does say, which I appreciate because this is true.

Milwaukee didn't.

Milwaukee is lucky that Yannis didn't know better when he was a young kid that he came to the United States Saw this as like this amazing land of opportunity even though it was really cold in the winters and small by other city standards Like he didn't know any better and he grew to love this place

and

he developed a connection With this place and he's loyal and he doesn't want to go anywhere He doesn't want to leave and he has said that over and over and over and over and over like he wants to be here Yeah, the only thing that could happen and it isn't even like about wins and losses or where they fall in the playoffs like if it gets to a point where it's

clear.

The Bucks cannot contend for a championship.

They might not even be a playoff team.

Now I think that's where you're probably going to he's probably going to start talking about elsewhere.

But financially, the way that the salary cab works, this is the most lucrative situation for him to stay here.

The NBA has really built in rules that make it such that certain you know, your your current team can pay you more than a new team.

It's it's complicated, but

He can make more money here.

He is beloved here.

He right now can still win a championship.

You know, as long as Damian Lillard is healthy at this level, like, you know, he's in his 30s, but he's not, he's not like, he's not going to be 38 tomorrow or anything.

Like he's still capable of playing at a very high level.

I think the Bucks are going to retool a little bit this off season and maybe, you know, maybe we'll see a sort of renewed emphasis on the championship caliber team.

But, you know, as far.

As far as we know, everything he said, Giannis really, really, really does want to be here.

He can't throw away the possibility of playing somewhere else, but, you know, this is his home.

So I think, I think Bucks fans should feel comfortable.

Good, good.

Jane Matenaer

We had about three minutes left.

The NFL Combine.

Very exciting.

Very,

Jane Matenaer

I had

a really good time last year.

I got to go for the first time.

I loved it.

But that is such an insular media thing to say, because it is such a weird pseudo event to bring in all these players from around the country to Indianapolis and have them like do interviews and run, run drills, essentially.

It's, it's very weird.

Um, I think really only true NFL heads are into this.

Like people who really just get into the draft to the nth degree.

It's not, uh, it's, it's not

Jane Matenaer

a casual

fan.

Yeah, I don't think it's a casual fan thing, but, but I really would encourage people to go to jsonlinepackersnews.com cause Tom Silverstein is there and he's written some really interesting stuff.

This is a good chance for him to sort of meet with people associated with the Packers and agents and things like that.

And you know, there are some serious questions about whether or not Jair Alexander will be back next year that kind of.

Looks like maybe a divorce is on the horizon.

And it's just a question of whether the Packers can trade him or if they have to let him go, like how, how that's going on.

So there's, there's a lot going on there.

And, you know, and then there are some intriguing prospects to talk about, but, you know, there's so many of them.

It's impossible to know which ones will ultimately matter.

So it's a little bit of a, it's a little bit of a meat market.

It's hard to wrap your arms around, but I had a

Jane Matenaer

good time.

I loved it.

That's what matters.

That's what matters.

Calvin, you get the last word on this before we got to let Jair go.

Well, I was just going to make a hot taker prediction that the NFL combine might.

be a thing of the past in the near future a number of the top prospects are have the past years it's been increasing the amount decide to sit out of the drills at the combine and just participate in the physicals and interviews

yes i that is not a novel take i mean not it's a great take i'm sorry i don't mean to disparage it but yes a lot of people are saying this as well they feel like that it is dying and it might be it might be you're absolutely right

Most of these guys, like the big, big names, they know they're going top 10 in the draft.

They're not going to do that.

But I think those interviews and physicals are still important.

Like teams really value that stuff.

They're like face to face stuff, even as short as it is.

So I still think it has a place, especially if they send me, but I'm not positive.

Jane Matenaer

We'll see.

We'll see.

That's what it's about.

Send JR Radcliffe if he's not there.

Send his daughter.

Send his daughter.

That's great.

No, she can't come.

If I'm going there for a week, it is without my family.

I mean, I love my family, but like it's.

It's me and the state couch in Indianapolis.

That's what I want.

Jane Matenaer

Read JR Radcliffe in the Milwaukee Journal, Sentinel.

We'll see you in a couple.

Thanks a lot, JR.

Stay with us.

This shouldn't be a thing.

On the way next, you're listening to Matt Nair on air on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome back to Matt Nair on air Jane Matt Nair Greg Bach Calviente on the board Coming to you from our studio at Radio Park in Racine where you can join us caller text at 855-752-4842 Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook YouTube and what used to be Twitter coming up on the show tomorrow I will be not here.

What I?

Yes, I will be at home

We're having some stuff that I've worked on on our furnace.

When was I going to find out about

Greg Bach

Calvin?

Why am I the last one to find out things like this?

Who's hosting?

Are you getting one of them?

One of them day jobber guys coming in.

Jane Matenaer

One of the young

Greg Bach

kids.

One of the young, the youth.

Jane Matenaer

Greg will be hosting.

Greg will be sitting in the big chair.

Dan Schaefer will be here from the Reconpopulation Area, Civic Media's political editor.

Well, I'm okay with that.

There you go.

And Calvin will be here as well.

But yes, I will be back on Monday.

So join us tomorrow with Greg in the big chair.

Again, we have, I'm looking forward to having more intake vents put in on our first floor.

It should be very, very exciting.

I'll make sure and do a big TikTok video on it or something.

Yeah, I'm sure you will.

That'll really put Matt Nair on air on the...

on the radar of the Youngs.

I'm trying.

Giving it a

shot.

You're

Jane Matenaer

getting there.

Right?

And we're so close.

11.53, Calvin, that means it is time for...

This shouldn't be a thing.

Jane Matenaer

As always, if you have a thing you think should not be, send it in to Greg and me.

Jane says, at civicmedia.us, J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S, at civicmedia.us, this from CBS News.

headline reads man tried to smuggle about a dozen bags of cocaine under narco wig according to Colombian police Bogota Colombia police say they apprehended a 40 year old man trying to smuggle cocaine concealed beneath his meticulously attached to pay the man detained at Cartagena's airport earlier this week he was heading to Amsterdam

A scanner revealed the hidden cargo under his hair.

220 grams of cocaine packaged in small bags strategically placed under what they're calling a narco wig.

The street value of the drugs estimated about $10,500.

Organized crime groups are exploiting young people falsely suggesting they can easily get through security.

and then be the mules, which is essentially what they are.

Didn't work in this case.

Greg Bach

I saw the wig.

Yes.

Just the idea like, are you a drug mule on the go?

Try narco wig.

What was your first, well, how did you know it was your first clue?

Well, you look like a cone head because $10,000 a coke on someone's skull looks a little weird.

Jane Matenaer

Little, little extra height there.

Yeah.

Little extra height.

Exactly.

Video released earlier this week captured the moment an officer wearing gloves carefully removed the suspect's wig with scissors revealing approximately a dozen packets of cocaine.

Further statements have confirmed the suspect's prior criminal record shocker, including two previous drug trafficking convictions.

A report out last year found that the cultivation of cocoa bushes increased by 10% in Colombia in 2023.

Cocaine production up 53%.

from the previous year.

This is not the first time this has been tried though.

In 2019, a Colombian man arrested in Spain after they found a pound.

What?

A pound of cocaine hidden under his toupee.

Here's the kicker.

He attracted officers attention because he was considerably nervous and officers said his wig was of disproportionate size.

Greg Bach

That's who I'm talking

Jane Matenaer

about.

After questioning the man, they found a perfectly sealed package taped to his head containing 1.1 pounds of cocaine worth about $34,000.

So it

Greg Bach

didn't work out well.

Just like the term narco wig.

Jane Matenaer

Narco wig.

There's a whole market for that, apparently.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

I just see a 1970s commercial with a guy in a leisure suit.

Like, do you need a hair system, but also need a way to transport your cocaine?

Try narco

Jane Matenaer

wig.

Greg Bach

Glist,

Jane Matenaer

glist, glist, glist.

There's potential there.

There you go.

That wraps up today's edition of This Shouldn't Be

a

Jane Matenaer

Thing.

Coming up after the news, we have Todd Alba from noon to two, Maggie Dawn, two to four, Dom Salvia, four to six, Pete Schwabba.

Lightning things up with nightlight from 6 to 8 p.m.

Don't forget native roots radio also across the network and then tomorrow morning Pat Crite low is finally back I know Pat Crite low back for up north news radio from 6 to 8 and catch Earl Ingram right before us from 8 to 10 a.m.

Again Greg will be here tomorrow along with Dan Schaefer and Callan as well stay with us

Don't go away.

Thank you Greg and Calvin and all of our engineers without you.

Nothing works And thank you most of all for calling and texting and for listening.

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