We Need TO Keep Our Court Fair (Hour 2)

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We Need TO Keep Our Court Fair (Hour 2)

Matenaer on Air · Thu Feb 27, 2025

Jane Matt Nair

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Also the same since Tuesday.

although it is up 45 cents from last week.

We do have a really busy show coming up for you, especially next hour, lots of guests.

Wisconsin Judge Susan Crawford will be joining us.

She is running for the open seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

So Judge Crawford joining us right after the 11 o'clock news.

I think we will have a couple of things to talk with the judge about.

Just

Greg Buck

a few.

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Just a few, as she always does.

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We did want to start real briefly.

I wanted to just acknowledge this Oscar winning actor, Gene Hackman.

and his wife Betsy Arakawa were found dead in their home in New Mexico.

Gene Hackman was 95 years old.

His wife, 64.

Officials say foul play, rather, is not suspected at this time, but an exact cause of death has not been determined.

The Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office also says one of their dogs was deceased as well.

I'm sure there will be more coming out about this, at least speculation.

I hesitate to do this because we can veer off into crazy things.

But when we hear stories like this in the past sometimes, it's a connection to carbon monoxide poisoning.

Whether or not that is the case, I'm sure we will find out.

But rest in peace, Gene Hackman.

What a prolific actor.

Greg Buck

Oh my goodness.

I'm looking at his... I'm looking at his awards page.

Not even like the movies he made.

He's got...

two Oscars, two BAFTAs, three Golden Globes, one SAG award.

And between all of those, he's got 22 nominations just for those four awards alone.

So, I mean- He's in some of my favorite movies, The Birdcage.

Oh, God, The Birdcage.

He's so good in that film.

So

Jane Matt Nair

good.

Yeah, just, there are so many, many wonderful movies that Gene Hackman starred in.

And here's a little tidbit that you may enjoy.

He and Dustin Hoffman joined the Pasadena Playhouse in California early, early on, and they were both voted the least likely to succeed.

Dustin Hoffman and Gene Hackman.

Yep, what a bunch of

Calvin Butenoff

losers.

Greg Buck

Again,

Jane Matt Nair

Gene Hackman gone at the age of 95 along with his wife and one of their pets.

Should anything break with updates about this, we will certainly let you know about that.

But rest in peace, Mr. Hackman.

We did want to start off with this.

U.S.

Department of Education cuts funding for a UW teacher training partnership with MPS.

Greg Buck

I want to thank Todd Alba for talking about that this morning.

He brought this to my attention when he was sitting in for Pat Critlow this morning on Civic Media Mornings.

When I heard this, I told you, I'm like, this is ridiculous.

Jane Matt Nair

It is ridiculous.

Trump administration cancels over $600 million in teacher quality partnership grants at universities across the country, including UW Madison.

So this program, the UW Madison Teacher Residency Program was founded in 2023 partially because of a teacher quality partnership grant.

This was a program developed by the U.S.

Department of Education.

And what it does is it helps fund teacher education and residency programs in high-need school districts across the country.

So they're trying to fill a need

We have a tough time finding teachers in Wisconsin the way it is.

Yes.

Much less in districts that are more difficult.

That

Greg Buck

are underserved, yes.

Jane Matt Nair

Absolutely.

So this was planned as a three-year program.

It had a total of 36 students taking 14-month terms, taking UW courses online and in person.

People who graduate from this program graduate with a master's degree in special ed.

And in agreement, they will keep working at MPS for the next three years.

Greg Buck

Yes.

That's not unusual.

No.

Those are regular things that happen on programs such as this.

Jane Matt Nair

And we know as well that our special ed kids are already getting shortchanged in a lot of instances.

And now it's gone.

The first group to graduate was supposed to happen this summer.

But the program got a letter earlier this month from the education department Announcing the grants that helped funded was being terminated The letter also called the product that said the program wasn't aligned with the current Trump administration priorities specifically because of its quote emphasis on diversity equity and Inclusion on quote little little important thing here

Greg Buck

great.

Yeah.

Yeah Jane

Unravelling for me.

Would you

Jane Matt Nair

this partnership?

This is from the Badger Herald by the way this partnership is not a DEI program and is not focused on any particular identity groups The proposal stated the program's goal of recruiting from a diverse group of applicants as much as possible That's been perceived as contradicting

the Education Department under Trump, their current interpretation of discrimination, which includes the hiring of specific groups.

Greg Buck

Groups of teachers?

They can defend destroying any social program now by just saying it's DEI.

And people will just believe them without question.

Because they just, well, it's public education.

It has to be DEI.

It has to be DEI.

Isn't

Jane Matt Nair

that what we're blaming everything on now?

Planes are crashing and whatever happens.

Oh, it was a DEI hire.

Greg Buck

Yeah,

Jane Matt Nair

it's disgusting.

Greg Buck

We need teachers.

We need- Desperately.

And we have programs that will allow them to come in, get an education, learn how to teach, and give children education.

And all they have to do is stay in a school district for between three to five years, depending on the program.

And we cut that in our infinite wisdom because DEI is evil.

Has anyone ever yet been able to explain to me, because I'm not that smart, why DEI is so bad?

Like what makes it so terrible bad anti-American?

Jane Matt Nair

Well, because white men are getting first choice.

But

Greg Buck

I'm

Jane Matt Nair

assuming.

I'm a white guy.

Well, you must have faced massive discrimination over the course of your life, Greg.

Greg Buck

On a daily basis, my life is tough,

Jane Matt Nair

Jim.

Right?

You're a tall, imposing white man.

Greg Buck

Married to a woman.

Oh my gosh.

Well, there's a

Jane Matt Nair

drag on you right there.

Greg Buck

I mean, I'm an American white male.

Who has it harder than me?

Yeah,

Jane Matt Nair

definitely.

Greg Buck

It just seems like what happens is, why'd you cut the program?

Oh, DEI.

It was DEI.

And we don't do that here in America anymore.

It's all about meritocracy.

Right.

It's about earning

Jane Matt Nair

it.

It's about earning it.

Yeah, exactly.

Hello, Donald, Erica and Ivanka.

But anyway, terminations like these threaten to make people feel like the field of special education can be undermined.

Some students are being told that regardless of whatever changes in the education department, there will always be students with disabilities.

Yes.

who need additional support and specialized instruction.

Yes.

That's not going away.

And yet, we want to throw more money behind private schools who can reject those very kids.

Greg Buck

And not to mention, let's just look at the program itself.

These kids who signed up, signed up for a life of a service.

I always had hardship, but I don't want to say that because, but working in any school is tough.

Working in underserved schools is even tougher.

And when you cut programs like this, not only will there not be opportunities available to get the sort of partnership you need to get a mentor to like get job placement immediately.

Next, you, because of this kids won't even want to do it anymore.

Period.

Like there's going to be no opportunities to, to learn because they can't afford to go to school.

They don't want to go into student debt.

And the fact that this country, from a leadership standpoint, hates teachers.

Jane Matt Nair

Which is shameful.

Greg Buck

Which is shameful.

I mean, let's face it, Wisconsin did it bigger in 2010.

You know, that's how we hate teachers.

But now the US government has gotten a board and just made them seem like the worst people and made them seem like the enemy because they want to teach terrible CRT through their DEI and their...

other programs they know nothing about.

And

Jane Matt Nair

you think of where Wisconsin used to be.

Oh

Greg Buck

my God.

Jane Matt Nair

And how we were considered nationally.

The gold standard.

We were the gold standard

Greg Buck

for

Jane Matt Nair

education in Wisconsin.

Gold standard.

That's not the case anymore.

Nope.

We are going to switch gears when we return.

Are you looking for a non-paid job opportunity?

Sure.

Right?

Greg Buck

Yeah.

You're

Jane Matt Nair

not going to get paid.

But.

I heard I'd get paid.

No, I don't think you're going to get paid.

There's a non-paid job opportunity coming up for all of us next month.

We'll have details on the other side.

Stay close.

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Calvin Butenoff

She can't

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Good morning.

Welcome.

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After the 11 o'clock news around 1106, Judge Susan Crawford will be joining us on the phone.

Carving out a little time for us.

Appreciate that.

We're going to talk about the upcoming Wisconsin Supreme Court race April 1st.

Very important race.

Less than five weeks.

Yeah, less than five weeks.

And I think we have an appreciation for just how important this is considering all of the national attention and the national monies that are pouring into Wisconsin.

One wonders who wants to take over.

Does he carry a chainsaw?

I don't know.

It's a very important election.

Please make plans to vote April 1st.

Maybe get a group of friends.

Go cast your ballot.

Go out for brunch.

It won't take long.

It literally will not take long.

These tend to be low turnout elections, which is why it's really important, especially this time around, because control of the Wisconsin Supreme Court lies in the balance.

We just got fairer maps.

Just.

We just got a fair court.

Let's not.

So, yeah, keep that in mind.

Judge Susan Crawford joining us after the 11 o'clock news.

Right now, though, I did want to, this kind of jumped out at me this morning.

We talked about the some of the town halls last week, held by Republicans, including Wisconsin's own.

We never see him.

Scott Fitzgerald.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Never.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Never.

Glenn Grossman had one.

A couple other Republicans around the country had town halls that got a little heated.

A little bit.

Just a skosh.

But now we know why.

Mike Johnson, the speaker of the House, appearing on CNN, explains why those crowds were a little upset at some of these town halls.

Calvin, do we have that clip?

Can you play that clip, please?

Caitlin (interviewer)

Do you have concerns that that's anything that Democrats will be able to use to run against those Republicans?

Mike Johnson (Speaker of the House)

No, because the vid- no, I don't.

Because the videos you saw of the town halls were for paid protesters in many of those places.

These are Democrats who went to the events early and filled up the seats.

If you had- if the videos had pan outside the building- You can't argue they were all

Caitlin (interviewer)

paid protesters, though, Mr. Speaker.

Mike Johnson (Speaker of the House)

Many of them were.

I don't

Caitlin (interviewer)

know.

I don't

Mike Johnson (Speaker of the House)

know.

Caitlin (interviewer)

Many of them were- I don't know.

I don't know.

They're constituents.

Mike Johnson (Speaker of the House)

Uh...

Republican and now they were constituents.

That's fantastic.

Okay.

But they had Democrats come and fill the seats early.

All right.

This is an old playbook that they pulled out and ran.

And it made it look like that what is happening in Washington is unpopular.

But I'm going to tell you, Caitlin, the American people are behind what's happening.

The Doge efforts is pulling over 80 percent right now.

They want us talking to them.

They want the government to be smaller and leaner and more accountable to the taxpayers.

And that's what these efforts are all about.

That's what.

Republican Party is about.

That's what our commitment is to do, to make government work better for the people.

This is a restoration of common sense.

And I think the American people are going to remain in favor of what's happening

Caitlin (interviewer)

here.

Greg Bach (co-host)

I found that poll about Doge, the 80%, it was put out by Doge.

Also, he said something, well, he said a bunch.

Mike Johnson says things.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

He has many

Greg Bach (co-host)

words.

He's good at saying things.

We all want the government to work better.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Yes.

And be more efficient.

Be more

Greg Bach (co-host)

efficient.

Yes.

And be leaner if it needs to be leaner.

But here's the thing is, I'll stay this on the network right now.

I'm starting a weight loss journey again.

I want to be leaner.

I want to be run better.

I want to just work better.

Do you know what I don't do to do those things?

I don't just take a knife and start cutting parts of my body off to just say like, well, now I weigh less.

No, I do the work necessary to get thinner, to get leaner, to get stronger.

That's not what Doge is doing.

No.

It is hacking our country apart

Jane Matt Nair (host)

with a chainsaw.

Yeah, without even looking at what they're cutting, which is the concern.

The reason I bring this up, because Mike Johnson

Like so many things, he just knows this intuitively.

He thinks, I don't know.

He knows deep in his gut that this is happening.

Like he knows that millions of people who weren't supposed to be voting are voting even though there's no proof of that.

But he just knows deep in his soul that these people who were protesting at these town halls, they were paid.

If you were at one of those town halls with Glenn Grossman or Scott Fitzgerald last week, please let us know.

Who paid you and how much she got paid?

I'm really curious.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Were you paid in like Culver's cash or was it like hard?

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Was it like Coles Bucks or something?

Oh,

Greg Bach (co-host)

Coles Bucks.

I mean, I would totally protest for Coles Bucks.

I'm just kidding right there, folks.

Don't take that seriously.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Well, I just, I thought, you know, if you would like to be an unpaid protester, there's an opportunity coming up.

Where is that, Jane?

It's going to be in Swamco.

Where's that, Jane?

That is north of Green Bay.

I know where that is, Jane.

March 8th at noon, the town line pub and grill, the save Wisconsin rally with special guests represented Tony Weed, another milk carton kid we haven't seen since he got elected.

Him and Scott Fitzgill hang out the same treehouse.

They do.

And Brad Schimel is going to be there.

Great.

So again, you're not going to get paid.

No.

Unless maybe Mike Johnson pays you.

Yeah.

He's so convinced that people are getting paid.

I think it's important, and Luanne Byrd had called in the other day and said, if they're not going to do these town halls, we have to go to them.

This is really important because this headline essentially says, from the Daily Beast, GOP lawmakers told to skip town halls after showdowns with angry voters,

go viral.

They don't want the public to see that they want to be able to put forth happy faces at all of these events to back up.

Mike Johnson's claim that 80% of people are behind Doge slashing and burning.

I

Greg Bach (co-host)

just like that.

How do you how can you say that?

Well, I don't know.

Cool.

The Speaker of the House of the United States of America says, I don't know, but he knows.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Deep in his heart.

He just knows deep in his heart, Greg.

So I don't know if you're looking for something to do March 8th.

I looked it up.

It's only an hour and a half from Milwaukee if you're coming from this area.

There you

Greg Bach (co-host)

go.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Make a plan.

Take a friend.

Have a meal at the place afterwards.

Absolutely.

Swalaco, March 8th, starting at noon at noon, town hall, pub and grill.

You're not going to get paid, but you know.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Weed and brad.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Go have fun.

Yeah.

Let us know

Greg Bach (co-host)

what you will happen.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

And if you got paid from George Soros or someone to protest, we would love to hear from you and I'd love to see the check.

Please, yes, please.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Send that in.

All right, we have news coming up next.

Stay close.

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Jane Matt Nair

Good morning.

Welcome back to Matt Nair on Air, Jane Matt Nair, Greg Bach.

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After the 11 o'clock news, Judge Susan Crawford will be joining us on the phone to talk about less than five weeks away.

the Wisconsin State Supreme Court race, Susan Crawford running against Brad Schimmel.

So we will talk to Judge Crawford after the 11 o'clock news.

We are going to talk about the two candidates for a little bit here because there are some pretty important distinctions.

And I also think it's important that folks realize what, at least to me, seems to be happening on a national level.

So control of the state Supreme Courts.

have very direct impacts on our lives.

Yeah.

Very, very direct impacts on our lives.

And if you haven't been following what's been going on in North Carolina and you probably haven't, because there's just so much to wade through.

But the Republican-controlled Supreme Court in North Carolina, they had a justice who was elected last year.

Yes.

They did two recounts.

in which she remained the winner and they're still trying to toss out that election.

That's what we can expect in Wisconsin if we go back to a Republican controlled majority on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

In North Carolina, I think they're talking about like 600,000 ballots.

That was

Greg Bach

60,000.

Jane Matt Nair

I know six was in there somewhere.

But we're talking about thousands of votes that will just get tossed and these are on

very minor procedural points.

Not that they prove that these people don't live here or are voting illegally.

A lot of these people have been voting for years, but there were some, now they're zeroing in on these clerical errors as their justification for throwing out thousands of people's votes.

60,000.

So that's what's happening in North Carolina.

Again, two recounts.

already found the more liberal-leaning justice in North Carolina, she came out ahead, and they are not stopping.

We can expect that to come, I think, we can expect that to come to Wisconsin next.

Greg Bach

Without a doubt, that is why, you know, for a win to happen, nobody questioned, I should say no one of validity questioned when justice protested which one.

It was called, it was done.

Everyone walked away.

I mean, the guy who lost the race had some thoughts, but who cares?

Point is Judge Crawford is going to have to win by a huge majority to shut these individuals down, but they will still come back at us.

Come still come back at the state saying this was a stolen.

Jane Matt Nair

It was

Greg Bach

rigged.

And that's why that, that is why I, you know, I personally don't get into the world of.

saying that the 2024 race was rigged because there's just not enough evidence in my opinion.

And I think getting into that makes me sound just as non credible as the people in 2020 that I said, well, you have no proof.

I don't have enough proof to put it forward.

We need to make sure we get out and vote.

We need to, as you said before, make a plan.

Take friends.

Make sure this is an overwhelming majority that says we want to keep fairness.

on the bench in fairness in Wisconsin, fairness in our maps.

And maybe, you know, not resort to 19th century law when it comes to the rights of a woman.

Let me rephrase that.

There will be no rights for a woman, just a woman's body.

Jane Matt Nair

Things were so great in the 1800s, Greg.

I didn't even

Greg Bach

think about anything.

Jane Matt Nair

Why can't we just go back to that?

Oh my gosh.

Things were so wonderful in 1849.

That's the abortion ban that we're talking about here in Wisconsin, which, by the way, Dr. Liarley pointed out earlier this week.

has not been overturned.

No.

That's on hold.

Correct.

That's on hold right now.

Yes.

They can bring this

Greg Bach

back.

There are few places in Wisconsin that are performing this procedure.

Yes.

But we are on a tipping point here.

Jane Matt Nair

Yes,

Greg Bach

we are.

And I'm not going to say it's the most important election ever because that phrase holds no water.

Jane Matt Nair

Not anymore.

We say

Greg Bach

it all the time.

But this is, and I think because it's local, very, very, very important, along with that constitutional question, which we will talk more about in the coming weeks, which is, do we need to have voter ID enshrined into our constitution?

Jane Matt Nair

No, we do not, period.

A case currently pending before Wisconsin Supreme Court will determine

The validity of that 1849 law that conservatives say ban abortions in the state this ban is currently on hold after a circuit court judge said it doesn't apply to medical abortions at an event last summer.

Brad Schimmel says he supports the idea that the 1849 law bans abortion whenever it comes up when Schimmel is on the stump.

He shares that his own anti-abortion views are informed in part because he adopted two daughters and he says the issue of abortion

should be decided by Wisconsin voters, not a judge.

That would be great.

We don't have that option.

We don't have those kind of referendums, statewide referendums in Wisconsin where the voters actually get to decide.

We don't have that, Brad.

We tried to.

Robin

Greg Bach

Voss shut that down because he says he loves a representative democracy.

Right.

Which

Jane Matt Nair

means him.

Greg Bach

Exactly.

I think the other thing, too, to be brought up in this conversation is

One, if he's talking about it, well, then he has to recuse himself when it comes up.

If he wins and that bill comes up or that law comes up in front of them, he has to recuse himself because he's talking about it.

Cause that's what they would shut up about with Justice Pro's say, which last time.

So also his story, which fine, he's adopted two wonderful

Jane Matt Nair

children.

That's great.

He gave the

Greg Bach

opportunity to women who did not want babies, but did not.

Great.

But that's not what's happening in this situation where women are facing this horrible decision.

And if you want any sort of idea of how bad it can get, listen to Tuesday's episode with Laurel.

We're going to do a recap of that coming up a little bit.

It's important.

Yeah.

These were not women who walked into a clinic and said, well, I'm almost there.

I

Jane Matt Nair

don't want to

Greg Bach

do it anymore.

Jane Matt Nair

No,

Greg Bach

I changed my mind.

I'm sorry, but that's not how that works.

And you talk to any woman, they're going to tell you that.

Jane Matt Nair

Again, I think it's, I think it's laudable and I applaud anyone who is an adoptive parent.

I think that's a very selfless, wonderful thing to do.

And yet we already have 7,000 kids in foster care in Wisconsin, 7,000 who are looking for homes.

And we go back to this 1849 where we're going to be forcing women to give birth.

And that's just gonna swell the roles of kids in foster care.

Greg Bach

Well, not only that, if we're, you know, and we will talk about Laurel again, look up the mortality rates in Texas right now.

Jane Matt Nair

It'll

Greg Bach

look hard because they're trying to hide them.

Yes, they are.

If we could become a state like Texas where it is absolutely outlawed, more women will die, more children as you see them will die.

This will not work the way you think it is it is not the solution You believe it is if you think you are pro life.

This is not it This is a night as someone just texted.

I think we were using candles and whale oil for light

Yeah, that was so great.

Jane Matt Nair

John from Hubert is texting that in the 1800s.

Do we want to go back to why?

Let's go back to sleetches.

Come on.

It was so effective in health.

Greg Bach

Let's just crack people's heads open and let the bad spirits come out of their brains.

Jane Matt Nair

The good old days.

8-5, bad humors.

Bad humors, that's right.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, if you'd like to join this discussion.

Jack from Miramaque is on the line.

Good morning, Jack.

Thanks for joining us.

Jack from Miramaque (caller)

Yeah, good morning.

First of all,

Crawford is being presented as a progressive judge.

I would disagree with that assessment.

She follows the law, and that's not necessarily being progressive.

But here at this year is the real choices that we have.

We have Schimmel, who is the candidate, who's just follows, basically an abortion ban for the state.

And that's...

given that it's something that's likely to come before the court is pretty unethical to say the least.

He also apparently favors releasing convicted felons who engaged in insurrection.

Some of these people actually pleaded guilty to that.

and claims that their convictions were the result of a law fair manipulation.

That's what he called it.

But here's the rest of the court.

We have three justices who approved gerrymandering that was so egregious you had to travel across another district to get from one part of a district to another of the same district.

And we have two justices, so-called, who voted to disenfranchise

hundreds of thousands of Wisconsinites because they were in counties that basically voted for a candidate that these people didn't want to win the election.

And they, which candidate lost the election by tens of thousands of votes.

So we have somebody that wants to follow the law and then we have these folks.

That's the choice that we have in this election.

And for me, it's no choice.

You want somebody that actually follows the law.

Jane Matt Nair

Well, and Jack, I think you bring up a really important point.

Brad Schimmel has come down on the side of the January 6th attackers.

As you said, calling it law fair, they weren't given a fair shot at trial.

And we've talked about this before.

A number of those people that got blanket pardons from Donald Trump, because going through all 1500 cases was just too much work.

Onerous was the word.

Oh, too onerous.

I'm really impressed that someone knew what that word was.

These guys have, some of these people have records, predating their attack at the Capitol on January 6th.

And they weren't given a fair shot.

Mr. Law and Order, Brad Schimmel.

But they didn't get a fair shot, right, Jack?

Jack from Miramaque (caller)

Yeah, they pleaded guilty as well.

I mean, and some of them, I think a couple of them pleaded guilty to plotting insurrection, for sure.

Several of them pleaded guilty.

Jane Matt Nair

As

Jack from Miramaque (caller)

a matter of fact, we got this guy from Wisconsin that bragged about attacking law officers with what was it, bear spray, pepper spray, one of those things.

Jane Matt Nair

He was so proud of

Jack from Miramaque (caller)

himself.

Jane Matt Nair

Yeah.

Jack from Miramaque (caller)

Yep.

Jane Matt Nair

Appreciate it, Jack.

Thank you so much.

You can join us as well at 855-752-4842 at Dan Schaefer on Twitter.

Brad Schimel says he's in favor of applying the law and not making the law when it comes to abortion, then proposes a referendum to determine it.

That's not an option here.

So that sounds real good Brad and it sounds real reasonable except that's not a thing.

No, that's not a thing so you can keep throwing that crumb out It's not a thing.

We can't do that in Wisconsin.

It's kind of like he's trying to I Don't know have cover He's trying to make

Greg Bach

himself look like the

Jane Matt Nair

viable candidate the reason the reasonable.

Yeah, the reasonable guy Jean from Eau Claire is on the line.

Good morning, Jean.

Thanks so much for joining us

Gene from Eau Claire (caller)

I mean, I'm glad you're having her on today.

Thank you guys for the work you do, but I just wanted to alert your attention to I Live Self-Folklair in rural community.

And so far, I have gotten three huge posters of the fair judge

Brad Schimmel, who protects the community, supports and defends the Constitution and puts partisanship aside.

And on the other side, now, you know, this is the fair judge, judge, you know, Schimmel.

And on the other side, they got...

Susan Crawford.

Is she too radical for her Supreme Court?

And danger in public safety.

Oh my God, how did she ever do that?

You know, it makes me wonder.

She has a record showing leniency toward violent criminals and sexual predators.

Isn't it amazing he left those sexual predator kits on the gull down shells and not even take care of them?

Anyway, driving up costs on families.

Now how in the devil does a judge drive up costs on families?

Archage to overturn legislation that saves taxpayers nearly $1,000 more per person.

making more expensive for hardworking citizens, or Wisconsinites.

Give me a break.

What in the devil's that about, Mr. Schimel?

And you did all those things under Scott Walker?

And record of liberal partnership.

Oh my God, there's that word liberal.

Maybe they should use a word progressive, that we need to move forward, we need to protect the citizens, and you go judge Crawford and combat the lies they're spreading.

Jane Matt Nair

Thank you so much, Gene.

Appreciate it.

We have news.

I'm sorry, we will be right back.

We're going to continue this conversation as regards to abortion in the current state of women's health in Wisconsin.

Stay with us.

You were listening to Matt Nair on air.

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Jane Matt Nair (host)

She's just a girl and she's on fire.

Hotter than a fantasy.

Good morning.

Welcome back to Matt Nair on air.

Jane Matt Nair, Greg Bach, Calvinator on the board, committee from our studio at Radio Park in Racine.

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Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook, YouTube and what used to be Twitter talking about the Wisconsin Supreme Court race April 1st.

Susan Crawford against Brad Schimmel.

Judge Crawford joining us after the 11 o'clock news, if you want to stick around for that.

Janet from Richland County is on the line and she's been waiting.

Good morning, Janet.

Thank you for your patience.

What did you want to say?

Janet from Richland County (caller)

Hello, I just wanted to say I'm a 73 year old, very liberal, very capital D Democrat.

And I am so concerned that three, like the commercials are three to four around

the area that I live in and for Brad Schimmel and I know the abortion issue is a huge issue.

often wear my row, row, row your vote shirt around, but something has to be done to address these horrific commercials about, um, you know, catch and release.

I'm air quoting correct.

Catch and release Crawford.

That's also a huge issue for people.

And I am chief inspector in my township and believe me, the majority of the people that come in aren't sure what's on the ballot and don't read, you know, take their news off commercials and things.

So I really think on top of the wonderful young woman who does the Susan Crawford commercial, they have to start addressing some of these catch and release accusations about what happened or why there's predators on the street or something, because that is a huge issue.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

And you're absolutely right, Janet.

And I've heard from friends.

and other folks from various parts of the state.

There's lots of signage for Brad Schimmel, and again, he's got Elon Musk is pouring millions and millions of dollars into Wisconsin in order to flip this race.

That should make everyone go, hmm.

And I also, as you mentioned, Janet, I think it's important that people realize, again, Brad Schimmel, who has come down on the side of the January 6th attackers,

the fact that dozens of these people who got blanket pardons from Donald Trump had passed criminal convictions for charges, including rape, manslaughter, domestic violence, and drug trafficking.

But apparently that's okay for Brad Schimmel.

And I think some of the cases that they're referring to against Susan Crawford, there are other pieces besides just saying, which is how they frame it.

Yes, she's just letting these criminals go free.

There's more to it than

Greg Bach (co-host)

that.

Well, I mean, also, you can also talk about the fact that, you know, Brad Shimmel failed at processing rape kits while he was in office.

For two years.

But then all of a sudden, they were just all magically done because he realized he was getting so much heat.

It's you're picking and choosing while you don't like somebody, and it's easy to use terms to describe a candidate and whatnot.

And I think, you know, that's why a judge's race is so difficult.

because a judge's career, if they've been sitting on a bench for a while, they're going to have it that for, for five years, they're going to have hundreds, if not more decisions made.

And some people aren't going to like them, but you have to process the law.

And you can't just willy-nilly give a person a hundred years in prison for a crime that you're talking about.

And I've read one of the articles parameters that's going to go to appeal immediately and be reduced.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

In the time that we have left, I think it's important.

We had Dr. Kristen Lierly was on with us earlier this week, since we're talking about the issue of abortion.

And Laurel Marcinkus was her guest.

Laurel is a young woman in Wisconsin who is married, who had a wanted pregnancy and was forced to wait to get the health care that she needed and subsequently lost her daughter anyway.

Her daughter only lived for two hours.

But let's play that clip, Calvin, from Brad Schimmel.

Talking about the 1849 abortion ban, which apparently he thinks is

Brad Schimmel (audio clip)

great.

The 1849 ban on abortions, which, by the way, what is flawed about that law?

There is not a constitutional right to abortion in our state constitution.

That will be a sham if they find

Jane Matt Nair (host)

that.

So please don't tell me, Brad Schimel, how much you care about women?

I don't want to hear it.

Greg Bach (co-host)

And please don't, and any of those people who were saying that Justice Prostate was had to recuse herself because of her thoughts on the maps,

This man has been talking nonstop about abortion.

If that thing comes to the courts, he should get up, walk out of the room.

He doesn't come back till they're done because that's just fair.

And I'm sorry, you don't like it.

That's called justice.

That's called

Jane Matt Nair (host)

being fair.

Please take a listen to a real life experience about what happened to a woman in Wisconsin with a wanted pregnancy who developed sepsis because of how long the unnecessary hoops they made her jump through in order to get the care that she needed.

Subsequently lost her daughter and now, which is what we didn't have the chance to address when they were on,

She is continuing to have problems as she tries to get pregnant.

Greg Bach (co-host)

What's wrong with it, Brad?

The rules

Jane Matt Nair (host)

are obsessed with killing unborn children.

Yeah, no, I'm concerned with women staying alive, pretty much.

Greg Bach (co-host)

It really, it really, really upsets me when you have the nerve to call yourself pro-life and the life of the mother has no... That's not the important life.

It doesn't matter at all.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

That's not the important life.

Check it out, Terry Barr's piece.

civicmedia.us, click on the politics tab.

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Jay Matt Nair

Good morning.

Welcome.

Welcome to Matt Nair on air.

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Yes, we have another election less than five weeks from today.

April 1st, Wisconsin voting for who will take a spot.

on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Brad Schimmel is running against Judge Susan Crawford, who joins us now on the phone.

Judge Crawford, thank you so very much for joining us.

Oh, wait, we put up the wrong picture.

Apologies for that on our live stream.

Calvin, can you switch that?

There we go.

Judge Crawford, thank you so much for joining us this morning.

Judge Susan Crawford

Oh, thanks so much for having me, Jane.

Jay Matt Nair

Judge Crawford, I wanted to start off with this.

Brad Schimmel, who is your opponent, has come down on the side of the January 6th attackers.

at the U.S.

Capitol, he says that they weren't given a fair shot in court.

At the same time, you are being accused of being soft on crime.

How do you respond to that accusation?

Judge Susan Crawford

Yeah, you know, I was really shocked to hear that Brad Schimmel, who, you know, really touts his law and order credential was making excuses and defending these

you know, this violent mob that stormed the Capitol and attacked Capitol police officers.

So I think it just shows that, you know, his support for law enforcement is just on the surface.

It's not something he really believes in.

And, you know, I'm somebody who has deep experience as a prosecutor and later as a lawyer, defending people in court and now as a judge.

I'm just astonished at Brad Schimmel's defense of those people.

And then even he went so far as to say he had no objection to President Trump's blanket pardons of everybody involved in that insurrection.

So, you know, I'm almost at a loss for words.

comment on that.

Jay Matt Nair

Judge Crawford, you are being hit pretty hard though on some of the cases that you've ruled on in the past.

Judge Susan Crawford

Yeah, you know, that's Elon Musk's money, hard at work, trying to distort my record on public safety.

Those ads have, you know, all kinds of lies and misrepresentations in them.

I'm proud of the work I have done, both as prosecutor and as a judge.

I always put public safety first.

I make sure I give crime victims rights protection in the process.

And, you know, they're talking about cases where I sentenced people to several years in prison and long periods of supervision by the Department of Corrections afterwards.

Meanwhile, you know, we have

reams of cases, dozens of cases, where Brad Schimmel gave people no jail time or short jail time and released them for crimes like domestic violence and child abuse.

And those people went on to re-offend, you know.

That's the real test of sentences, did those people go on to create new victims and hurt people again?

And, you know, that's Brad Schimmel's record.

Jay Matt Nair

Well, it's interesting that you say that right before you joined us, we were talking about some of the January 6th attackers who received those blanket pardons and a number of them had previous convictions or even current convictions involving rape and sexual assault.

And as you said, sexual abuse of minors.

Judge Susan Crawford

Yep.

Yep.

A lot of those folks were, you know, repeat offenders and it wouldn't shock me if.

Those people go on to commit additional crimes now that they're back at large in the community.

It's really a shame.

Jay Matt Nair

If you're just joining us, Judge Susan Crawford is joining us on the phone.

She is a candidate for the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

The.

Election is on April 1st.

And if you're not sure where to go, if you're not registered to vote, please take care of that.

Go to myvote.wi.gov.

All you have to do is put in your address and that will tell you what's on your ballot, who all of your elected officials are, how you can contact them, et cetera.

I also wanted to talk, Judge Crawford, about the 1849 abortion ban, which right now is on hold in Wisconsin.

But it also seems like Brad Schimmel is very much in favor of that law, which, if I understand it correctly, only has exceptions for the life of the mother, but even that comes with some caveats.

Judge Susan Crawford

Yeah, absolutely.

And Brad Schimmel has said repeatedly that he thinks there's nothing wrong with that law, and it should be fully enforced.

And like you said, no exceptions for things like rape or incest or even sexually abused children in that law.

As I've been out campaigning, I have had doctors and midwives and women approach me and tell me really personal stories about women who were forced to go out of state for health care while that law was briefly in effect before the judge put it on hold.

And those are scary stories.

You know, these are women who were having a crisis in a pregnancy and needed health care and they were unable to get it in their own state and had to be transported to, you know, Minnesota or Illinois or wherever.

And that's, you know,

that has to be concerning to every voter in Wisconsin.

And I say every voter, not every woman, but every voter in Wisconsin should be concerned that a candidate for the Wisconsin Supreme Court thinks that that's no problem.

Jay Matt Nair

And I think it's important, Judge Crawford, that folks also understand that just because this 1849 ban is on hold right now, that doesn't mean that the full range of services are available all over the state of Wisconsin.

We had a guest on earlier this week.

young married woman with a wanted pregnancy who had complications.

I believe it was in the second trimester.

She had to wait almost 24 hours before she was able to get the care that she needed and she developed sepsis and now is having problems conceiving and having another wanted child.

Judge Susan Crawford

Yeah, exactly.

You know, there's just story after story like that.

And I was talking to an OBGYN the other day who told me that

before the 1849 ban was put on hold that they literally had patients who were, you know, lying in a hospital bed in critical condition while the doctors are in a huddle, you know, talking about, you know, is it close enough to her losing her life?

Can we take action?

Because they're concerned about liability, you know, doctors and hospitals are really worried about liability and they're, you know,

they're not going to rush into something.

So that's one of the problems with these laws that make an exception only for the life of the mother is how close to death are you going to let the woman get before you give her health care services?

It is.

Jay Matt Nair

We've

Judge Susan Crawford

heard those stories over and over.

That's where we're at and that's the result of the Dobbs decision from the US Supreme Court that took away over almost 50 years of constitutional protections that women could rely on.

Jay Matt Nair

We were just accused by a listener of citing an outlying case of this Laurel who joined us this week.

This is not an outlier.

This is happening in emergency rooms.

Good heavens, we've talked about cases where women have been bleeding out.

in the parking lots of emergency rooms because they're not close enough to dead yet to get health care.

Judge Susan Crawford

Exactly, exactly.

And I've had health care providers, as I said, approach me and tell me those stories themselves.

And it is somebody saying this is an outlier.

Well, how many women are you going to let die?

How many outliers before you do something about it?

You know and Brad Schimmel, you know one other thing with his position.

He said, oh we could have a referendum put it to the voters.

Well, Wisconsin law doesn't allow that.

We don't have a way to just let voters directly decide on an issue like abortion rights in Wisconsin.

You know, that's why it's in the courts and he wants to sort of pass the buck and say

you know, let the voters determine this in a referendum, which is impossible, or let the legislature decide this.

And again, the legislature has shown no interest in it, and that's why it's in the courts.

Jay Matt Nair

We're talking about this before you joined us.

And essentially, it's it's his way to make himself look reasonable.

Like I just want to do what the voters want.

And all we have to do is have a statewide referendum, even though that is not a thing that exists in Wisconsin.

Judge Susan Crawford

Exactly.

Yeah, he's, you know, he is trying to run away from his record.

He has been a long time opponent of abortion rights, dating back to at least 2012 when he signed on to Wisconsin Right to Life White Paper that said, you know, when Roe versus Wade is overturned, that 1849 law will go into effect.

He was advocating for that way back then.

Then as Attorney General, he was fighting to defend unconstitutional restrictions on abortion rights in Wisconsin, and not just in Wisconsin, but he was trying to defend unconstitutional restrictions on abortion rights, even in other states, waiting into litigation in other states to argue against women's reproductive health care rights.

So he's got a long, long record on this issue.

Hired a top lawyer into the Wisconsin Department of Justice, who we now know was

part of the conservative legal movement that developed a legal strategy to overturn Roe versus Wade.

And now he's saying,

Jay Matt Nair

oh,

Judge Susan Crawford

you know, gosh, Dobbs just sent it back to the states and maybe there can be a referendum.

This is a problem of Brad Schimel's own making.

This is what he wanted to see happen is for women to lose this constitutional protection.

And, you know, now he's trying to run away from that record.

Greg Bott

I think we played a clip of him.

talking and he asked the question, where is the flaw?

How is this wrong?

And to ask the question of a 19th century law, what's flawed with that?

Looking back now, almost 200 years later, to not even look at the language and say, what's wrong with this?

That says a lot about who he is.

And just the fact that he doesn't know that the people can't vote on a binding

Jay Matt Nair

referendum.

He knows that.

I

Greg Bott

mean, or to play up that is just absolutely.

Jay Matt Nair

Yeah.

Judge Crawford, we're just about out of time.

I know a lot of folks are wondering when you're going to take the gloves off and start running some ads and getting out in front of some of these attacks on you.

Judge Susan Crawford

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, we've got more ads coming and I'll defend my record any day.

Like I said, I've always been about the safety of the community.

And, you know, we're going to fight off the lies paid for by Elon Musk.

And you know why Elon Musk is in this.

He thinks that Brad Schimmel is

you know, gonna be his bag man on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

And that's something that Brad Schimmel's really familiar with.

He once called himself Scott Walker's bag man back when he was attorney general and he's willing to sell out justice to the highest bidder.

Jay Matt Nair

Just one more thing.

Do you promise not to have commemorative coins if you're elected to the Wisconsin Supreme Court and spend $10,000 of our taxpayer money on those?

Judge Susan Crawford

Absolutely.

I will make that promise here and now.

Jay Matt Nair

Appreciate that.

Thanks, Jane.

Judge Susan Crawford on the phone.

Thank you so much for your time, Judge Crawford.

Really, really appreciate it.

Stay with us.

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We'll be right back.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Good morning.

Welcome back to Matt Nair on air.

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After the 1130 News, the journal Sentinel Sports Guru, JR Radcliffe joining us, and we'll wrap up the show as we always do.

With this shouldn't be a thing.

Today it's the Flipping Your Wig edition.

It's a good one.

You may want to stick around for that.

She joins us every Thursday at this time for a little weather and wine.

Civic media's meteorologist, Brittany Merleau, is here.

Good morning.

I know you're sad, Brittany.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

I am.

I know.

I'm so sad.

I have been crying just as much as the snow has been melting across the state, honestly.

That's

Greg Bach (co-host)

a lot.

I talked to a doctor.

You're

Jane Matt Nair (host)

a

Greg Bach (co-host)

winter.

I

Jane Matt Nair (host)

want

Greg Bach (co-host)

to.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

You're a winter weather fan.

You're all into the winter sports and snowmobiling and cross country skiing and all those things.

And yeah, those opportunities just kind of went woosh.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

Yep, they are gone.

Just as fast as they got here, they melted away.

I mean, we're just a muddy mess up north now.

I know it is down south as well, but I mean, we went from 12 inches of snow on the ground to just some piles now, you know, the plowed piles that are lingering.

Some shaded areas in the woods still have a little bit of snow, but even far up north, Hurley, Wisconsin only has four inches on the ground, so.

all snowmobiling done, skiing, everything, like you said.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Well, the Berke got off okay, which is a good thing.

The Berkebiner got to do a regular run this year as opposed to last year.

But I was kind of surprised.

I know in the Milwaukee area in southeastern Wisconsin, we didn't get nearly the snow that you did.

But even looking around my neighborhood, all I could think of was

Most of it got absorbed, and that shows me just how far behind we are as far as moisture is concerned.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

Yes, absolutely.

50% of the state, as of early last week, was in a moderate drought.

So half of the state needed this melt, they needed the precipitation, and we definitely have more on the ways.

So it's not going to stop here, and we're entering, you know, as these seasons shift, the flooding season, another bucket of concerns headed our way.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

So what is coming?

What are we looking at today's Thursday?

What are we looking at for the weekend and then even into early next week?

Because I know you don't like to forecast too far out.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

Yeah, so the biggest concern right now is the lakes, the Great Lakes, honestly.

We're going to see some winds very, very feisty, gusting up to about 40 to 50 miles per hour on land.

This is going to start overnight tonight and through tomorrow.

All across Wisconsin?

Yes, yes.

So we're going to see some potentially wind advisories going out.

We could see some power outages.

So the brutal winds will have to battle.

But here's the thing.

We went from ice coverage on the lakes to a rapid melt.

I mean, they lost like 20% of ice coverage.

So everything's broken up and melting.

And then they're going to get these waves.

There's gale watches and warnings on Lake Superior and Lake Michigan.

And if you think about them climbing up to 10 feet high, moving those ice sheets around.

We're looking at potentially some damage that could happen along lakeshores.

So Lake Michigan tomorrow morning will be your biggest threat.

But then the wind shift and then it turns to the south shore of Lake Superior tomorrow afternoon and through those evening hours.

So lakeshore areas kind of looking out for that ice kind of moving in and shoving on shore.

That's going to be the next thing.

And then also river areas.

We have all this melt that just melted on this precipitation takes a minute for it to get to the river basins.

They're starting to swell.

So right here in Wausau, we're in an action level right now on the Wisconsin River.

So we could see some flooding pretty soon.

And I'm just watching those river gauges rise and rise across the state.

I mean, the ground was still frozen.

We still have frost about 15 to 32 inch depth out there.

So this water has got to go into those rivers and those ice chunks are going to break up and start floating down and then they could get jammed in.

cause more flooding, so flooding season, guys.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

If you've never seen the impact of ice shoves, just do a Google search on it.

For those of us who don't live along the lakeshore and, you know, along the shores of one of the Great Lakes, that can be massively destructive.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

Yes, nothing stops them.

They'll push houses right off their foundation if there's enough and these winds are going to be strong enough.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Any more precipitation coming our way in the next week or so?

Any more rain on the way?

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

So we're looking at a quick shot of light snow up north tonight.

But other than that, we have a big cold front pushing through tomorrow, which is why it's going to get so windy.

So that could spark up a few scattered showers or a few flurries with that as it moves through tomorrow afternoon.

But then we're really keeping an eye on the bigger storm that hits Tuesday and into Wednesday next week.

This one is going to pack a punch.

It's got a lot of precipitation with it and moisture and it could put down some snow accumulating into portions of the state.

Now, of course, we don't know exactly where accepting is changing and bouncing everywhere, but it is going to hit Wisconsin and we are looking at a good one to two inches of precip.

So in the form of rain or in the form of snow depends where you live.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

And that's Tuesday, Wednesday.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

Yep, and that's a big massive amount of pre-sip after we just melted all that snow.

Right, right is definitely going to be happening by next weekend in a lot of places.

Greg Bach (co-host)

I want to reiterate something.

I think you mentioned on a patch show last week that for the most part, and by your expertise in your wizardry work and weathering, we're out of the cold snaps.

The deep freeze colds were moved past that point.

And now, you know, we're going to have those 30s and 40s days, but none of these 30 below zero days.

And is that, is that by your best, by your best judgment, is that where we're at?

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

Yes, I think we're out of that no more deep freeze Arctic cold blast or anything like that Now again temperatures gonna be shifting even Saturday.

We're gonna be all below freezing in the in the 20s So that's kind of a swing.

We're gonna be going through as we go through the next few months, but no

pretty much major warmups and some mild cold snaps behind it is what we're looking forward to.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

It's only, we're only at the end of February.

We have all a march we got to get through yet.

Mother Nature every once in a while likes to come in with one of those March storms and it's that really heavy wet snow which disappears in two days, but it's a major pain in the neck.

So we're not completely out of the woods yet.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

No, we're not.

I see a couple of those in the future.

So hang on tight.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

She's smiling.

She's

Greg Bach (co-host)

happy.

Of course she's smiling.

She's

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

like Dr. Evil over

Greg Bach (co-host)

here.

Inconvenient snow makes you happy.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

Hey, it's my job.

That's right.

I give me something to do.

Greg Bach (co-host)

That's

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

exactly.

Southern California.

I couldn't do it.

Nope.

Too boring.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

How boring would Hawaii be for a meteorologist, right?

Why bother?

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

No

Jane Matt Nair (host)

way.

Yeah.

Why bother?

It's the same every day.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Until it's a hurricane and they're like, oh, it's gonna get windy.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Keep an eye on

Greg Bach (co-host)

the

Jane Matt Nair (host)

winds tonight and tomorrow and especially if you've got big trees The ground is pretty saturated so that might cause some issues and maybe some power down to power lines as well Brittany Merlot is civic media meteorologist for a little weather and wine She joins us every Thursday.

Thank you so much.

Brittany really appreciate it.

Thank you Stay with us.

We're gonna talk all things sports with JR Radcliffe from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on the other side of the news you are listening to

The Civic Media Radio Network.

Jane McNair (host)

Good morning.

Welcome back to Matt and air on air Jane Matt and air Greg Bach Calviente on the board coming to you from our studio at Radio Park in Racine You can join us caller text at 855-752-4842 Leave a comment if you're watching in the livestream on Facebook YouTube and what used to be Twitter coming up on about 15 minutes We'll wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing today.

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Our next guest joins us every other Thursday to talk all things sports.

Journal Sentinel Sports Guru, JR Radcliffe is here.

Good morning, JR.

How are you doing?

Good morning, friends.

How are all of you?

We are good.

Good to see you.

Where would we like to start with sports balls?

How about March Madness?

JR Radcliffe (guest)

Oh, yeah, we're almost there, right?

We are a couple days away from the start of March Madness.

So a couple things to watch if you are a Wisconsin sports Wisconsin basketball fan.

The University of Wisconsin is kind of in this.

They're really close to sewing up a chance to appear in Milwaukee.

Milwaukee will be hosting games at Pfizer Forum here for the, for the second time in four years, because they were here in 2022 as well.

So I guess, yeah, second and four.

Wisconsin was here last time.

There is a process through which teams that do very well get some geographic preference.

And the Badgers are in really good shape to play here.

I still think even after they had a really bad loss to Oregon a few days ago where they let a big lead get away.

It was just a very confounding loss, actually.

They're still in really good position to do that.

So they got to keep winning all the games they're supposed to.

And there's a big game coming up against Michigan State.

They could stand to win that too.

That would be nice.

That would probably guarantee it.

It's not a guarantee right now, but it's pretty close to one.

So that's something that I think people are going to be interested in.

Marquette will not be in Milwaukee there.

contractually and not allowed to be as the host, but they've been slipping a little bit.

They've had a rough go.

They had a really convincing win over Providence on Tuesday night.

So they're off the Schneiden to some degree, but it has not been a good second half of the season.

So they're still in the national rankings.

They're still in the 20s.

But it remains to be seen exactly how far they're going to fall in these seeds.

It was shaping up like there were going to be a two seed again this year, and that's not going to happen now.

So that's interesting.

And UW-Milwaukee is the horizon league where both UW-GB and UW-Milwaukee play.

There's chaos usually in the tournament.

It could be really any team.

Milwaukee, I think, has the capability to win that tournament.

They're not the top seed.

They won't be favored.

But they could easily sneak in as well.

Also, that's almost certainly not a team that will play in Milwaukee.

Although that's not ruled out.

It's very, very unlikely.

So yeah, there's plenty to follow here if you're a basketball

Jane McNair (host)

fan.

Do you bracket?

And if you do, how much pressure is on you as a sports reporter to have like the best of brackets?

Calviente (board operator)

Do you even bracket, bro?

JR Radcliffe (guest)

My bracket, bro.

Um, I am far too high culture for bracketing.

I do a player draft where I draft 10 players along with several of my friends and most points wins at the end of the tournament.

Last year I had the number one overall pick.

I got Zach Edie, that seven foot monster for Purdue.

I won.

It was not of any volition of my own.

I just won because I got lucky, but, but whatever.

No, I, I think, I think I like.

envision a bracket.

I don't enter any bracket contest usually only because I can throw in a bunch of caveats that and this is true.

Nobody knows how this is going to go.

Like no one can predict the future in the NCAA tournament.

It is always random, always wild.

It usually shakes out at the end that teams that are in the final four certainly deserve to be there.

But but it might not be the top four teams in the tournament.

In fact, it almost never is the top four teams in the tournament.

So so it is a complete and exact wild science.

you know, every radio interview, I can, I can give you a matchup.

I can tell you who the, you know, like whether or not they, they match up favorably or whatever, but like, they could lose by 20 points.

You have no way, no way of knowing.

So it's, it's a very humbling experience, whether or not you're a sports guru.

Jane McNair (host)

Well, and to me, that's one of the best things about the NCAA tournament is the fact that someone who you never expected could come and pull this off comes in and does the big upset.

I think that's a beautiful thing.

And then for people like me who fill out their brackets, depending upon uniform color, and if I like the name of the mascot, you know, then I have a better chance as well.

JR Radcliffe (guest)

My daughter did fill one out last year based solely on which mascot she preferred.

She's 10 years old.

She did not fare better than me in this particular.

Okay.

All

Calviente (board operator)

right.

It's fine.

Wow.

I

JR Radcliffe (guest)

just want to be clear, but she easily could write like it's it's such it's and now that we have

had a couple instances where 16 seeds beat the one seed.

That was like the last frontier of normalcy where you could rely on, no matter what happens, the one seeds are always going to beat those 16 seeds in the first round.

Well, now it's happened twice that a 16 seed has beaten the one.

So now nothing is safe.

This is nothing you could predict.

Pretty likely the one seed is going to win, but you know, there's really no way to know for sure.

It's all, it's all, it's all crazy.

Calviente (board operator)

But here's what we can report to you right now, folks, breaking news.

JR Radcliffe is better than his daughter.

Let's go.

That's right.

Now, Lydia,

Jane McNair (host)

bring it.

I just bring it.

10 year old.

Calviente (board operator)

I think I think that's how you I think that's how you you advertise the NCAA tournament.

You'd be like, Hey, your team could win it all or not.

CBS Sports.

JR Radcliffe (guest)

I mean, this is one of the big problems with college basketball in general is you have a lot of people asking somewhat fairly, why do I watch all these months of regular season when the only thing that matters is the series of coin flips that happened

Jane McNair (host)

in

JR Radcliffe (guest)

mid to late March.

Like I totally get that.

I mean, like I said, at the end, the top four teams are

almost always teams that did not luck their way there.

Either they were a lower level team that really played at an elite level, or they're just really good teams.

I actually, I think Wisconsin could be one of those teams.

Like that's the thing about it is this Badger's team is

This organ loss is so frustrating because it falls in line with other previous like late season Badgers reminders that oh, they're not that good, but this team is really good I think this was just a weird one-off loss that they lost an overtime like so many crazy weird things had to go wrong I think this team is good enough and avoids the lulls that unfortunately

This game was an example of, but typically avoids those offensive lulls that have haunted past Badger's teams.

I think this is a really good Wisconsin team.

I think they're very much a candidate to go to the Final Four and it would not hurt to have the first two games in, you know, in Milwaukee.

Yeah, that'd be great.

Calviente (board operator)

The question would be hard as an audience.

The city would be insane on fire.

You bet.

Jane McNair (host)

J.R.

Redcliffe is here to talk all things sports.

Let's move on to the Bucks.

And what is going on?

Well, they've

JR Radcliffe (guest)

been okay lately, but they're they're finally getting healthy.

They lost on Tuesday to Houston.

I found that game.

I found it encouraging because I think they played really, really good defense against a really good team on the road.

They did only score 12 points in the fourth quarter, which is really quite bad.

They only gave up 15, which was quite quite incredible.

But but 12 points.

I mean, they missed a lot of shots that I think they probably would make if they took the same shots again.

You know, for them, it is it is just about getting healthy and they are

in the middle of the pack in the Eastern Conference among playoff teams.

They're like in the four or five.

Don't really want them to get lower than that because then they get into this play in part of the tournament where they're going to wind up having to really sing for their supper and win games just to get in to face the really good teams.

You don't want that.

So that requires them to get a top six seed.

I think they're probably going to get that pretty safely.

The Pistons are on fire.

That's a problem.

The Bucks are back and forth with the Pacers.

Those teams are going to kind of be competing for the same terrain at this point.

So if you are a Bucks fan late in the season, cheer against Detroit and against Indiana, that might be against your instincts of similar sized markets that you normally cheer for, but like those are the bad guys right now.

And I do think.

As Yannis is getting past this minutes restriction after he dinged up his calf a little bit.

Damian Lillard, I think, looks pretty good.

Maybe not as good as we've seen him, but really good.

And Kyle Kuzma is up and down a little bit, but the new guys fitting in with those two guys.

And I think it's going OK for them.

I still don't see this team as a deep playoff team.

I haven't seen anything that convinces me otherwise.

But I do think this is a pretty good version of them.

Really good game on Thursday against Denver.

Denver, that's at Pfizer Forum.

That's five of the, you know, between Nikola Yolkic and Yanis, you've got five of the last six MVP trophies.

So that's pretty sweet.

Uh, if, if he does indeed play, which there's no reason to think he won't Nikola Yolkic, um, that would be, that'd be really cool.

So, uh, if, if you've got, uh, got nothing to do tonight, that'd be a cool thing to do.

Go check out the box.

Calviente (board operator)

So I have a question that kind of broken into a couple of pieces and it says, Brad's a basketball question.

So you're welcome listeners.

There is always rumors about if this bucks team doesn't do well this season that.

Giannis might look other places to be.

I don't know how, start there.

I don't know how true that is.

Then on top of that, how good do the bucks have to do?

And I'm saying take a championship out of the running, but how good do they have to do for him to say, no, I'm going to stay here.

And if they just peter out in the first round, as he say, I'm going to lose my options.

JR Radcliffe (guest)

So Lori Nichol, my colleague, did a really cool two-part series on Yanis.

One landed today, one yesterday, so I really encourage if people are interested.

It was a really candid interview and really tried to get into the psychology of how Yanis would answer this question, you know?

And I, first of all, I do think national media has a little bit of a...

I'm trying to use an appropriate word here.

They really like talking about this.

They're really into moving honest to another team.

More so than I would say comparable superstars.

I don't ever really understand that relative.

Like I can understand if it's, you know, you just don't get this for Yolkic, who plays for Denver,

Jane McNair (host)

you know,

JR Radcliffe (guest)

like if you want to, that's not a powerhouse market.

I don't know why people aren't saying, when is Yolkic going to move?

Yeah, they won a championship, but when did they get, when is he going to go to New York or LA, you know, and.

All I can think of is there's two things about Yanis.

One, he does play in Milwaukee, which is not a powerhouse, you know, by national standards, powerhouse market.

And two, he likes to talk.

He answers these questions and he talks about it and he entertains the possibility that someday he will want to move on.

And Lori, I think really did a good job kind of going in there.

Like he can't, he can't say to himself, I'll never want to go somewhere else.

Like he does say, which I appreciate because this is true.

Milwaukee didn't.

Milwaukee is lucky that Yannis didn't know better when he was a young kid that he came to the United States Saw this as like this amazing land of opportunity even though it was really cold in the winters and small by other city standards Like he didn't know any better and he grew to love this place

Greg Bach (co-host)

and

JR Radcliffe (guest)

he developed a connection With this place and he's loyal and he doesn't want to go anywhere He doesn't want to leave and he has said that over and over and over and over and over like he wants to be here Yeah, the only thing that could happen and it isn't even like about wins and losses or where they fall in the playoffs like if it gets to a point where it's

clear.

The Bucks cannot contend for a championship.

They might not even be a playoff team.

Now I think that's where you're probably going to he's probably going to start talking about elsewhere.

But financially, the way that the salary cab works, this is the most lucrative situation for him to stay here.

The NBA has really built in rules that make it such that certain you know, your your current team can pay you more than a new team.

It's it's complicated, but

He can make more money here.

He is beloved here.

He right now can still win a championship.

You know, as long as Damian Lillard is healthy at this level, like, you know, he's in his 30s, but he's not, he's not like, he's not going to be 38 tomorrow or anything.

Like he's still capable of playing at a very high level.

I think the Bucks are going to retool a little bit this off season and maybe, you know, maybe we'll see a sort of renewed emphasis on the championship caliber team.

But, you know, as far.

As far as we know, everything he said, Giannis really, really, really does want to be here.

He can't throw away the possibility of playing somewhere else, but, you know, this is his home.

So I think, I think Bucks fans should feel comfortable.

Good, good.

Jane McNair (host)

We had about three minutes left.

The NFL Combine.

JR Radcliffe (guest)

Very exciting.

Very,

Jane McNair (host)

I had

JR Radcliffe (guest)

a really good time last year.

I got to go for the first time.

I loved it.

But that is such an insular media thing to say, because it is such a weird pseudo event to bring in all these players from around the country to Indianapolis and have them like do interviews and run, run drills, essentially.

It's, it's very weird.

Um, I think really only true NFL heads are into this.

Like people who really just get into the draft to the nth degree.

It's not, uh, it's, it's not

Jane McNair (host)

a casual

JR Radcliffe (guest)

fan.

Yeah, I don't think it's a casual fan thing, but, but I really would encourage people to go to jsonlinepackersnews.com cause Tom Silverstein is there and he's written some really interesting stuff.

This is a good chance for him to sort of meet with people associated with the Packers and agents and things like that.

And you know, there are some serious questions about whether or not Jair Alexander will be back next year that kind of.

Looks like maybe a divorce is on the horizon.

And it's just a question of whether the Packers can trade him or if they have to let him go, like how, how that's going on.

So there's, there's a lot going on there.

And, you know, and then there are some intriguing prospects to talk about, but, you know, there's so many of them.

It's impossible to know which ones will ultimately matter.

So it's a little bit of a, it's a little bit of a meat market.

It's hard to wrap your arms around, but I had a

Jane McNair (host)

good time.

I loved it.

That's what matters.

That's what matters.

Calvin, you get the last word on this before we got to let Jair go.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Well, I was just going to make a hot taker prediction that the NFL combine might.

be a thing of the past in the near future a number of the top prospects are have the past years it's been increasing the amount decide to sit out of the drills at the combine and just participate in the physicals and interviews

JR Radcliffe (guest)

yes i that is not a novel take i mean not it's a great take i'm sorry i don't mean to disparage it but yes a lot of people are saying this as well they feel like that it is dying and it might be it might be you're absolutely right

Most of these guys, like the big, big names, they know they're going top 10 in the draft.

They're not going to do that.

But I think those interviews and physicals are still important.

Like teams really value that stuff.

They're like face to face stuff, even as short as it is.

So I still think it has a place, especially if they send me, but I'm not positive.

Jane McNair (host)

We'll see.

We'll see.

That's what it's about.

Send JR Radcliffe if he's not there.

JR Radcliffe (guest)

Send his daughter.

Send his daughter.

That's great.

No, she can't come.

If I'm going there for a week, it is without my family.

I mean, I love my family, but like it's.

It's me and the state couch in Indianapolis.

That's what I want.

Jane McNair (host)

Read JR Radcliffe in the Milwaukee Journal, Sentinel.

We'll see you in a couple.

Thanks a lot, JR.

Stay with us.

This shouldn't be a thing.

On the way next, you're listening to Matt Nair on air on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Welcome back to Matt Nair on air Jane Matt Nair Greg Bach Calviente on the board Coming to you from our studio at Radio Park in Racine where you can join us caller text at 855-752-4842 Leave a comment if you're watching on the live stream on Facebook YouTube and what used to be Twitter coming up on the show tomorrow I will be not here.

What I?

Yes, I will be at home

We're having some stuff that I've worked on on our furnace.

When was I going to find out about

Greg Bach (co-host)

Calvin?

Why am I the last one to find out things like this?

Who's hosting?

Are you getting one of them?

One of them day jobber guys coming in.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

One of the young

Greg Bach (co-host)

kids.

One of the young, the youth.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Greg will be hosting.

Greg will be sitting in the big chair.

Dan Schaefer will be here from the Reconpopulation Area, Civic Media's political editor.

Well, I'm okay with that.

There you go.

And Calvin will be here as well.

But yes, I will be back on Monday.

So join us tomorrow with Greg in the big chair.

Again, we have, I'm looking forward to having more intake vents put in on our first floor.

It should be very, very exciting.

I'll make sure and do a big TikTok video on it or something.

Yeah, I'm sure you will.

That'll really put Matt Nair on air on the...

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getting there.

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This shouldn't be a thing.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

As always, if you have a thing you think should not be, send it in to Greg and me.

Jane says, at civicmedia.us, J-A-N-E-S-A-Y-S, at civicmedia.us, this from CBS News.

headline reads man tried to smuggle about a dozen bags of cocaine under narco wig according to Colombian police Bogota Colombia police say they apprehended a 40 year old man trying to smuggle cocaine concealed beneath his meticulously attached to pay the man detained at Cartagena's airport earlier this week he was heading to Amsterdam

A scanner revealed the hidden cargo under his hair.

220 grams of cocaine packaged in small bags strategically placed under what they're calling a narco wig.

The street value of the drugs estimated about $10,500.

Organized crime groups are exploiting young people falsely suggesting they can easily get through security.

and then be the mules, which is essentially what they are.

Didn't work in this case.

Greg Bach (co-host)

I saw the wig.

Yes.

Just the idea like, are you a drug mule on the go?

Try narco wig.

What was your first, well, how did you know it was your first clue?

Well, you look like a cone head because $10,000 a coke on someone's skull looks a little weird.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Little, little extra height there.

Yeah.

Little extra height.

Exactly.

Video released earlier this week captured the moment an officer wearing gloves carefully removed the suspect's wig with scissors revealing approximately a dozen packets of cocaine.

Further statements have confirmed the suspect's prior criminal record shocker, including two previous drug trafficking convictions.

A report out last year found that the cultivation of cocoa bushes increased by 10% in Colombia in 2023.

Cocaine production up 53%.

from the previous year.

This is not the first time this has been tried though.

In 2019, a Colombian man arrested in Spain after they found a pound.

What?

A pound of cocaine hidden under his toupee.

Here's the kicker.

He attracted officers attention because he was considerably nervous and officers said his wig was of disproportionate size.

Greg Bach (co-host)

That's who I'm talking

Jane Matt Nair (host)

about.

After questioning the man, they found a perfectly sealed package taped to his head containing 1.1 pounds of cocaine worth about $34,000.

So it

Greg Bach (co-host)

didn't work out well.

Just like the term narco wig.

Jane Matt Nair (host)

Narco wig.

There's a whole market for that, apparently.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Yeah.

I just see a 1970s commercial with a guy in a leisure suit.

Like, do you need a hair system, but also need a way to transport your cocaine?

Try narco

Jane Matt Nair (host)

wig.

Greg Bach (co-host)

Glist,

Jane Matt Nair (host)

glist, glist, glist.

There's potential there.

There you go.

That wraps up today's edition of This Shouldn't Be

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a

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Thing.

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