They’re Not Outliers, They’re Humans (Hour 1)

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They’re Not Outliers, They’re Humans (Hour 1)

Matenaer on Air · Thu Feb 27, 2025

Jane Matenaer

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As of today, the average price of a gallon of 2% milk in Wisconsin 317.

That is the same since yesterday and the average price of a dozen large eggs here in the state 611.

Also the same since Tuesday.

although it is up 45 cents from last week.

We do have a really busy show coming up for you, especially next hour, lots of guests.

Wisconsin Judge Susan Crawford will be joining us.

She is running for the open seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

So Judge Crawford joining us right after the 11 o'clock news.

I think we will have a couple of things to talk with the judge about.

Just

Greg Bach

a few.

Jane Matenaer

Just a few, as she always does.

Brittany Merlot, a civic media meteorologist will join.

at 11.20 for a little weather and wine.

J.R.

Journal Sentinel Sports Guru J.R.

Radcliffe will be here to talk all things sports at 11.30 and we'll wrap up the show as we always do with this shouldn't be a thing.

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Greg Bach

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Jane Matenaer

Definitely.

We did want to start real briefly.

I wanted to just acknowledge this Oscar winning actor, Gene Hackman.

and his wife Betsy Arakawa were found dead in their home in New Mexico.

Gene Hackman was 95 years old.

His wife, 64.

Officials say foul play, rather, is not suspected at this time, but an exact cause of death has not been determined.

The Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office also says one of their dogs was deceased as well.

I'm sure there will be more coming out about this, at least speculation.

I hesitate to do this because we can veer off into crazy things.

But when we hear stories like this in the past sometimes, it's a connection to carbon monoxide poisoning.

Whether or not that is the case, I'm sure we will find out.

But rest in peace, Gene Hackman.

What a prolific actor.

Greg Bach

Oh my goodness.

I'm looking at his... I'm looking at his awards page.

Not even like the movies he made.

He's got...

two Oscars, two BAFTAs, three Golden Globes, one SAG award.

And between all of those, he's got 22 nominations just for those four awards alone.

So, I mean- He's in some of my favorite movies, The Birdcage.

Oh, God, The Birdcage.

He's so good in that film.

So

Jane Matenaer

good.

Yeah, just, there are so many, many wonderful movies that Gene Hackman starred in.

And here's a little tidbit that you may enjoy.

He and Dustin Hoffman joined the Pasadena Playhouse in California early, early on, and they were both voted the least likely to succeed.

Dustin Hoffman and Gene Hackman.

Yep, what a bunch of

losers.

Greg Bach

Again,

Jane Matenaer

Gene Hackman gone at the age of 95 along with his wife and one of their pets.

Should anything break with updates about this, we will certainly let you know about that.

But rest in peace, Mr. Hackman.

We did want to start off with this.

U.S.

Department of Education cuts funding for a UW teacher training partnership with MPS.

Greg Bach

I want to thank Todd Alba for talking about that this morning.

He brought this to my attention when he was sitting in for Pat Critlow this morning on Civic Media Mornings.

When I heard this, I told you, I'm like, this is ridiculous.

Jane Matenaer

It is ridiculous.

Trump administration cancels over $600 million in teacher quality partnership grants at universities across the country, including UW Madison.

So this program, the UW Madison Teacher Residency Program was founded in 2023 partially because of a teacher quality partnership grant.

This was a program developed by the U.S.

Department of Education.

And what it does is it helps fund teacher education and residency programs in high-need school districts across the country.

So they're trying to fill a need

We have a tough time finding teachers in Wisconsin the way it is.

Yes.

Much less in districts that are more difficult.

That

Greg Bach

are underserved, yes.

Jane Matenaer

Absolutely.

So this was planned as a three-year program.

It had a total of 36 students taking 14-month terms, taking UW courses online and in person.

People who graduate from this program graduate with a master's degree in special ed.

And in agreement, they will keep working at MPS for the next three years.

Greg Bach

Yes.

That's not unusual.

No.

Those are regular things that happen on programs such as this.

Jane Matenaer

And we know as well that our special ed kids are already getting shortchanged in a lot of instances.

And now it's gone.

The first group to graduate was supposed to happen this summer.

But the program got a letter earlier this month from the education department Announcing the grants that helped funded was being terminated The letter also called the product that said the program wasn't aligned with the current Trump administration priorities specifically because of its quote emphasis on diversity equity and Inclusion on quote little little important thing here

Greg Bach

great.

Yeah.

Yeah Jane

Unravelling for me.

Would you

Jane Matenaer

this partnership?

This is from the Badger Herald by the way this partnership is not a DEI program and is not focused on any particular identity groups The proposal stated the program's goal of recruiting from a diverse group of applicants as much as possible That's been perceived as contradicting

the Education Department under Trump, their current interpretation of discrimination, which includes the hiring of specific groups.

Greg Bach

Groups of teachers?

They can defend destroying any social program now by just saying it's DEI.

And people will just believe them without question.

Because they just, well, it's public education.

It has to be DEI.

It has to be DEI.

Isn't

Jane Matenaer

that what we're blaming everything on now?

Planes are crashing and whatever happens.

Oh, it was a DEI hire.

Greg Bach

Yeah,

Jane Matenaer

it's disgusting.

Greg Bach

We need teachers.

We need- Desperately.

And we have programs that will allow them to come in, get an education, learn how to teach, and give children education.

And all they have to do is stay in a school district for between three to five years, depending on the program.

And we cut that in our infinite wisdom because DEI is evil.

Has anyone ever yet been able to explain to me, because I'm not that smart, why DEI is so bad?

Like what makes it so terrible bad anti-American?

Jane Matenaer

Well, because white men are getting first choice.

But

Greg Bach

I'm

Jane Matenaer

assuming.

I'm a white guy.

Well, you must have faced massive discrimination over the course of your life, Greg.

Greg Bach

On a daily basis, my life is tough,

Jane Matenaer

Jim.

Right?

You're a tall, imposing white man.

Greg Bach

Married to a woman.

Oh my gosh.

Well, there's a

Jane Matenaer

drag on you right there.

Greg Bach

I mean, I'm an American white male.

Who has it harder than me?

Yeah,

Jane Matenaer

definitely.

Greg Bach

It just seems like what happens is, why'd you cut the program?

Oh, DEI.

It was DEI.

And we don't do that here in America anymore.

It's all about meritocracy.

Right.

It's about earning

Jane Matenaer

it.

It's about earning it.

Yeah, exactly.

Hello, Donald, Erica and Ivanka.

But anyway, terminations like these threaten to make people feel like the field of special education can be undermined.

Some students are being told that regardless of whatever changes in the education department, there will always be students with disabilities.

Yes.

who need additional support and specialized instruction.

Yes.

That's not going away.

And yet, we want to throw more money behind private schools who can reject those very kids.

Greg Bach

And not to mention, let's just look at the program itself.

These kids who signed up, signed up for a life of a service.

I always had hardship, but I don't want to say that because, but working in any school is tough.

Working in underserved schools is even tougher.

And when you cut programs like this, not only will there not be opportunities available to get the sort of partnership you need to get a mentor to like get job placement immediately.

Next, you, because of this kids won't even want to do it anymore.

Period.

Like there's going to be no opportunities to, to learn because they can't afford to go to school.

They don't want to go into student debt.

And the fact that this country, from a leadership standpoint, hates teachers.

Jane Matenaer

Which is shameful.

Greg Bach

Which is shameful.

I mean, let's face it, Wisconsin did it bigger in 2010.

You know, that's how we hate teachers.

But now the US government has gotten a board and just made them seem like the worst people and made them seem like the enemy because they want to teach terrible CRT through their DEI and their...

other programs they know nothing about.

And

Jane Matenaer

you think of where Wisconsin used to be.

Oh

Greg Bach

my God.

Jane Matenaer

And how we were considered nationally.

The gold standard.

We were the gold standard

Greg Bach

for

Jane Matenaer

education in Wisconsin.

Gold standard.

That's not the case anymore.

Nope.

We are going to switch gears when we return.

Are you looking for a non-paid job opportunity?

Sure.

Right?

Greg Bach

Yeah.

You're

Jane Matenaer

not going to get paid.

But.

I heard I'd get paid.

No, I don't think you're going to get paid.

There's a non-paid job opportunity coming up for all of us next month.

We'll have details on the other side.

Stay close.

You are listening to Matt Nair on air.

This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

We'll be right back.

She can't

Jane Matenaer

Good morning.

Welcome.

Welcome to Matt Nair on air.

Jane Matt Nair, Greg Bach, Dr. Slide on the board, coming to you from our studio at Radio Park in Racine.

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After the 11 o'clock news around 1106, Judge Susan Crawford will be joining us on the phone.

Carving out a little time for us.

Appreciate that.

We're going to talk about the upcoming Wisconsin Supreme Court race April 1st.

Very important race.

Less than five weeks.

Yeah, less than five weeks.

And I think we have an appreciation for just how important this is considering all of the national attention and the national monies that are pouring into Wisconsin.

One wonders who wants to take over.

Does he carry a chainsaw?

I don't know.

It's a very important election.

Please make plans to vote April 1st.

Maybe get a group of friends.

Go cast your ballot.

Go out for brunch.

It won't take long.

It literally will not take long.

These tend to be low turnout elections, which is why it's really important, especially this time around, because control of the Wisconsin Supreme Court lies in the balance.

We just got fairer maps.

Just.

We just got a fair court.

Let's not.

So, yeah, keep that in mind.

Judge Susan Crawford joining us after the 11 o'clock news.

Right now, though, I did want to, this kind of jumped out at me this morning.

We talked about the some of the town halls last week, held by Republicans, including Wisconsin's own.

We never see him.

Scott Fitzgerald.

Greg Bach

Never.

Jane Matenaer

Never.

Glenn Grossman had one.

A couple other Republicans around the country had town halls that got a little heated.

A little bit.

Just a skosh.

But now we know why.

Mike Johnson, the speaker of the House, appearing on CNN, explains why those crowds were a little upset at some of these town halls.

Calvin, do we have that clip?

Can you play that clip, please?

Do you have concerns that that's anything that Democrats will be able to use to run against those Republicans?

No, because the vid- no, I don't.

Because the videos you saw of the town halls were for paid protesters in many of those places.

These are Democrats who went to the events early and filled up the seats.

If you had- if the videos had pan outside the building- You can't argue they were all

paid protesters, though, Mr. Speaker.

Many of them were.

I don't

know.

I don't

know.

Many of them were- I don't know.

I don't know.

They're constituents.

Uh...

Republican and now they were constituents.

That's fantastic.

Okay.

But they had Democrats come and fill the seats early.

All right.

This is an old playbook that they pulled out and ran.

And it made it look like that what is happening in Washington is unpopular.

But I'm going to tell you, Caitlin, the American people are behind what's happening.

The Doge efforts is pulling over 80 percent right now.

They want us talking to them.

They want the government to be smaller and leaner and more accountable to the taxpayers.

And that's what these efforts are all about.

That's what.

Republican Party is about.

That's what our commitment is to do, to make government work better for the people.

This is a restoration of common sense.

And I think the American people are going to remain in favor of what's happening

here.

Greg Bach

I found that poll about Doge, the 80%, it was put out by Doge.

Also, he said something, well, he said a bunch.

Mike Johnson says things.

Jane Matenaer

He has many

Greg Bach

words.

He's good at saying things.

We all want the government to work better.

Jane Matenaer

Yes.

And be more efficient.

Be more

Greg Bach

efficient.

Yes.

And be leaner if it needs to be leaner.

But here's the thing is, I'll stay this on the network right now.

I'm starting a weight loss journey again.

I want to be leaner.

I want to be run better.

I want to just work better.

Do you know what I don't do to do those things?

I don't just take a knife and start cutting parts of my body off to just say like, well, now I weigh less.

No, I do the work necessary to get thinner, to get leaner, to get stronger.

That's not what Doge is doing.

No.

It is hacking our country apart

Jane Matenaer

with a chainsaw.

Yeah, without even looking at what they're cutting, which is the concern.

The reason I bring this up, because Mike Johnson

Like so many things, he just knows this intuitively.

He thinks, I don't know.

He knows deep in his gut that this is happening.

Like he knows that millions of people who weren't supposed to be voting are voting even though there's no proof of that.

But he just knows deep in his soul that these people who were protesting at these town halls, they were paid.

If you were at one of those town halls with Glenn Grossman or Scott Fitzgerald last week, please let us know.

Who paid you and how much she got paid?

I'm really curious.

Greg Bach

Were you paid in like Culver's cash or was it like hard?

Jane Matenaer

Was it like Coles Bucks or something?

Oh,

Greg Bach

Coles Bucks.

I mean, I would totally protest for Coles Bucks.

I'm just kidding right there, folks.

Don't take that seriously.

Jane Matenaer

Well, I just, I thought, you know, if you would like to be an unpaid protester, there's an opportunity coming up.

Where is that, Jane?

It's going to be in Swamco.

Where's that, Jane?

That is north of Green Bay.

I know where that is, Jane.

March 8th at noon, the town line pub and grill, the save Wisconsin rally with special guests represented Tony Weed, another milk carton kid we haven't seen since he got elected.

Him and Scott Fitzgill hang out the same treehouse.

They do.

And Brad Schimel is going to be there.

Great.

So again, you're not going to get paid.

No.

Unless maybe Mike Johnson pays you.

Yeah.

He's so convinced that people are getting paid.

I think it's important, and Luanne Byrd had called in the other day and said, if they're not going to do these town halls, we have to go to them.

This is really important because this headline essentially says, from the Daily Beast, GOP lawmakers told to skip town halls after showdowns with angry voters,

go viral.

They don't want the public to see that they want to be able to put forth happy faces at all of these events to back up.

Mike Johnson's claim that 80% of people are behind Doge slashing and burning.

I

Greg Bach

just like that.

How do you how can you say that?

Well, I don't know.

Cool.

The Speaker of the House of the United States of America says, I don't know, but he knows.

Jane Matenaer

Deep in his heart.

He just knows deep in his heart, Greg.

So I don't know if you're looking for something to do March 8th.

I looked it up.

It's only an hour and a half from Milwaukee if you're coming from this area.

There you

Greg Bach

go.

Jane Matenaer

Make a plan.

Take a friend.

Have a meal at the place afterwards.

Absolutely.

Swalaco, March 8th, starting at noon at noon, town hall, pub and grill.

You're not going to get paid, but you know.

Greg Bach

Weed and brad.

Jane Matenaer

Go have fun.

Yeah.

Let us know

Greg Bach

what you will happen.

Jane Matenaer

And if you got paid from George Soros or someone to protest, we would love to hear from you and I'd love to see the check.

Please, yes, please.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Send that in.

All right, we have news coming up next.

Stay close.

You're listening to Matt Nair on air on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Good morning.

Welcome back to Matt Nair on Air, Jane Matt Nair, Greg Bach.

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After the 11 o'clock news, Judge Susan Crawford will be joining us on the phone to talk about less than five weeks away.

the Wisconsin State Supreme Court race, Susan Crawford running against Brad Schimmel.

So we will talk to Judge Crawford after the 11 o'clock news.

We are going to talk about the two candidates for a little bit here because there are some pretty important distinctions.

And I also think it's important that folks realize what, at least to me, seems to be happening on a national level.

So control of the state Supreme Courts.

have very direct impacts on our lives.

Yeah.

Very, very direct impacts on our lives.

And if you haven't been following what's been going on in North Carolina and you probably haven't, because there's just so much to wade through.

But the Republican-controlled Supreme Court in North Carolina, they had a justice who was elected last year.

Yes.

They did two recounts.

in which she remained the winner and they're still trying to toss out that election.

That's what we can expect in Wisconsin if we go back to a Republican controlled majority on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

In North Carolina, I think they're talking about like 600,000 ballots.

That was

Greg Bach

60,000.

Jane Matenaer

I know six was in there somewhere.

But we're talking about thousands of votes that will just get tossed and these are on

very minor procedural points.

Not that they prove that these people don't live here or are voting illegally.

A lot of these people have been voting for years, but there were some, now they're zeroing in on these clerical errors as their justification for throwing out thousands of people's votes.

60,000.

So that's what's happening in North Carolina.

Again, two recounts.

already found the more liberal-leaning justice in North Carolina, she came out ahead, and they are not stopping.

We can expect that to come, I think, we can expect that to come to Wisconsin next.

Greg Bach

Without a doubt, that is why, you know, for a win to happen, nobody questioned, I should say no one of validity questioned when justice protested which one.

It was called, it was done.

Everyone walked away.

I mean, the guy who lost the race had some thoughts, but who cares?

Point is Judge Crawford is going to have to win by a huge majority to shut these individuals down, but they will still come back at us.

Come still come back at the state saying this was a stolen.

Jane Matenaer

It was

Greg Bach

rigged.

And that's why that, that is why I, you know, I personally don't get into the world of.

saying that the 2024 race was rigged because there's just not enough evidence in my opinion.

And I think getting into that makes me sound just as non credible as the people in 2020 that I said, well, you have no proof.

I don't have enough proof to put it forward.

We need to make sure we get out and vote.

We need to, as you said before, make a plan.

Take friends.

Make sure this is an overwhelming majority that says we want to keep fairness.

on the bench in fairness in Wisconsin, fairness in our maps.

And maybe, you know, not resort to 19th century law when it comes to the rights of a woman.

Let me rephrase that.

There will be no rights for a woman, just a woman's body.

Jane Matenaer

Things were so great in the 1800s, Greg.

I didn't even

Greg Bach

think about anything.

Jane Matenaer

Why can't we just go back to that?

Oh my gosh.

Things were so wonderful in 1849.

That's the abortion ban that we're talking about here in Wisconsin, which, by the way, Dr. Liarley pointed out earlier this week.

has not been overturned.

No.

That's on hold.

Correct.

That's on hold right now.

Yes.

They can bring this

Greg Bach

back.

There are few places in Wisconsin that are performing this procedure.

Yes.

But we are on a tipping point here.

Jane Matenaer

Yes,

Greg Bach

we are.

And I'm not going to say it's the most important election ever because that phrase holds no water.

Jane Matenaer

Not anymore.

We say

Greg Bach

it all the time.

But this is, and I think because it's local, very, very, very important, along with that constitutional question, which we will talk more about in the coming weeks, which is, do we need to have voter ID enshrined into our constitution?

Jane Matenaer

No, we do not, period.

A case currently pending before Wisconsin Supreme Court will determine

The validity of that 1849 law that conservatives say ban abortions in the state this ban is currently on hold after a circuit court judge said it doesn't apply to medical abortions at an event last summer.

Brad Schimmel says he supports the idea that the 1849 law bans abortion whenever it comes up when Schimmel is on the stump.

He shares that his own anti-abortion views are informed in part because he adopted two daughters and he says the issue of abortion

should be decided by Wisconsin voters, not a judge.

That would be great.

We don't have that option.

We don't have those kind of referendums, statewide referendums in Wisconsin where the voters actually get to decide.

We don't have that, Brad.

We tried to.

Robin

Greg Bach

Voss shut that down because he says he loves a representative democracy.

Right.

Which

Jane Matenaer

means him.

Greg Bach

Exactly.

I think the other thing, too, to be brought up in this conversation is

One, if he's talking about it, well, then he has to recuse himself when it comes up.

If he wins and that bill comes up or that law comes up in front of them, he has to recuse himself because he's talking about it.

Cause that's what they would shut up about with Justice Pro's say, which last time.

So also his story, which fine, he's adopted two wonderful

Jane Matenaer

children.

That's great.

He gave the

Greg Bach

opportunity to women who did not want babies, but did not.

Great.

But that's not what's happening in this situation where women are facing this horrible decision.

And if you want any sort of idea of how bad it can get, listen to Tuesday's episode with Laurel.

We're going to do a recap of that coming up a little bit.

It's important.

Yeah.

These were not women who walked into a clinic and said, well, I'm almost there.

I

Jane Matenaer

don't want to

Greg Bach

do it anymore.

Jane Matenaer

No,

Greg Bach

I changed my mind.

I'm sorry, but that's not how that works.

And you talk to any woman, they're going to tell you that.

Jane Matenaer

Again, I think it's, I think it's laudable and I applaud anyone who is an adoptive parent.

I think that's a very selfless, wonderful thing to do.

And yet we already have 7,000 kids in foster care in Wisconsin, 7,000 who are looking for homes.

And we go back to this 1849 where we're going to be forcing women to give birth.

And that's just gonna swell the roles of kids in foster care.

Greg Bach

Well, not only that, if we're, you know, and we will talk about Laurel again, look up the mortality rates in Texas right now.

Jane Matenaer

It'll

Greg Bach

look hard because they're trying to hide them.

Yes, they are.

If we could become a state like Texas where it is absolutely outlawed, more women will die, more children as you see them will die.

This will not work the way you think it is it is not the solution You believe it is if you think you are pro life.

This is not it This is a night as someone just texted.

I think we were using candles and whale oil for light

Yeah, that was so great.

Jane Matenaer

John from Hubert is texting that in the 1800s.

Do we want to go back to why?

Let's go back to sleetches.

Come on.

It was so effective in health.

Greg Bach

Let's just crack people's heads open and let the bad spirits come out of their brains.

Jane Matenaer

The good old days.

8-5, bad humors.

Bad humors, that's right.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, if you'd like to join this discussion.

Jack from Miramaque is on the line.

Good morning, Jack.

Thanks for joining us.

Yeah, good morning.

First of all,

Crawford is being presented as a progressive judge.

I would disagree with that assessment.

She follows the law, and that's not necessarily being progressive.

But here at this year is the real choices that we have.

We have Schimmel, who is the candidate, who's just follows, basically an abortion ban for the state.

And that's...

given that it's something that's likely to come before the court is pretty unethical to say the least.

He also apparently favors releasing convicted felons who engaged in insurrection.

Some of these people actually pleaded guilty to that.

and claims that their convictions were the result of a law fair manipulation.

That's what he called it.

But here's the rest of the court.

We have three justices who approved gerrymandering that was so egregious you had to travel across another district to get from one part of a district to another of the same district.

And we have two justices, so-called, who voted to disenfranchise

hundreds of thousands of Wisconsinites because they were in counties that basically voted for a candidate that these people didn't want to win the election.

And they, which candidate lost the election by tens of thousands of votes.

So we have somebody that wants to follow the law and then we have these folks.

That's the choice that we have in this election.

And for me, it's no choice.

You want somebody that actually follows the law.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and Jack, I think you bring up a really important point.

Brad Schimmel has come down on the side of the January 6th attackers.

As you said, calling it law fair, they weren't given a fair shot at trial.

And we've talked about this before.

A number of those people that got blanket pardons from Donald Trump, because going through all 1500 cases was just too much work.

Onerous was the word.

Oh, too onerous.

I'm really impressed that someone knew what that word was.

These guys have, some of these people have records, predating their attack at the Capitol on January 6th.

And they weren't given a fair shot.

Mr. Law and Order, Brad Schimmel.

But they didn't get a fair shot, right, Jack?

Yeah, they pleaded guilty as well.

I mean, and some of them, I think a couple of them pleaded guilty to plotting insurrection, for sure.

Several of them pleaded guilty.

Jane Matenaer

As

a matter of fact, we got this guy from Wisconsin that bragged about attacking law officers with what was it, bear spray, pepper spray, one of those things.

Jane Matenaer

He was so proud of

himself.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah.

Yep.

Jane Matenaer

Appreciate it, Jack.

Thank you so much.

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Brad Schimel says he's in favor of applying the law and not making the law when it comes to abortion, then proposes a referendum to determine it.

That's not an option here.

So that sounds real good Brad and it sounds real reasonable except that's not a thing.

No, that's not a thing so you can keep throwing that crumb out It's not a thing.

We can't do that in Wisconsin.

It's kind of like he's trying to I Don't know have cover He's trying to make

Greg Bach

himself look like the

Jane Matenaer

viable candidate the reason the reasonable.

Yeah, the reasonable guy Jean from Eau Claire is on the line.

Good morning, Jean.

Thanks so much for joining us

I mean, I'm glad you're having her on today.

Thank you guys for the work you do, but I just wanted to alert your attention to I Live Self-Folklair in rural community.

And so far, I have gotten three huge posters of the fair judge

Brad Schimmel, who protects the community, supports and defends the Constitution and puts partisanship aside.

And on the other side, now, you know, this is the fair judge, judge, you know, Schimmel.

And on the other side, they got...

Susan Crawford.

Is she too radical for her Supreme Court?

And danger in public safety.

Oh my God, how did she ever do that?

You know, it makes me wonder.

She has a record showing leniency toward violent criminals and sexual predators.

Isn't it amazing he left those sexual predator kits on the gull down shells and not even take care of them?

Anyway, driving up costs on families.

Now how in the devil does a judge drive up costs on families?

Archage to overturn legislation that saves taxpayers nearly $1,000 more per person.

making more expensive for hardworking citizens, or Wisconsinites.

Give me a break.

What in the devil's that about, Mr. Schimel?

And you did all those things under Scott Walker?

And record of liberal partnership.

Oh my God, there's that word liberal.

Maybe they should use a word progressive, that we need to move forward, we need to protect the citizens, and you go judge Crawford and combat the lies they're spreading.

Jane Matenaer

Thank you so much, Gene.

Appreciate it.

We have news.

I'm sorry, we will be right back.

We're going to continue this conversation as regards to abortion in the current state of women's health in Wisconsin.

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She's just a girl and she's on fire.

Hotter than a fantasy.

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Susan Crawford against Brad Schimmel.

Judge Crawford joining us after the 11 o'clock news, if you want to stick around for that.

Janet from Richland County is on the line and she's been waiting.

Good morning, Janet.

Thank you for your patience.

What did you want to say?

Hello, I just wanted to say I'm a 73 year old, very liberal, very capital D Democrat.

And I am so concerned that three, like the commercials are three to four around

the area that I live in and for Brad Schimmel and I know the abortion issue is a huge issue.

often wear my row, row, row your vote shirt around, but something has to be done to address these horrific commercials about, um, you know, catch and release.

I'm air quoting correct.

Catch and release Crawford.

That's also a huge issue for people.

And I am chief inspector in my township and believe me, the majority of the people that come in aren't sure what's on the ballot and don't read, you know, take their news off commercials and things.

So I really think on top of the wonderful young woman who does the Susan Crawford commercial, they have to start addressing some of these catch and release accusations about what happened or why there's predators on the street or something, because that is a huge issue.

Jane Matenaer

And you're absolutely right, Janet.

And I've heard from friends.

and other folks from various parts of the state.

There's lots of signage for Brad Schimmel, and again, he's got Elon Musk is pouring millions and millions of dollars into Wisconsin in order to flip this race.

That should make everyone go, hmm.

And I also, as you mentioned, Janet, I think it's important that people realize, again, Brad Schimmel, who has come down on the side of the January 6th attackers,

the fact that dozens of these people who got blanket pardons from Donald Trump had passed criminal convictions for charges, including rape, manslaughter, domestic violence, and drug trafficking.

But apparently that's okay for Brad Schimmel.

And I think some of the cases that they're referring to against Susan Crawford, there are other pieces besides just saying, which is how they frame it.

Yes, she's just letting these criminals go free.

There's more to it than

Greg Bach

that.

Well, I mean, also, you can also talk about the fact that, you know, Brad Shimmel failed at processing rape kits while he was in office.

For two years.

But then all of a sudden, they were just all magically done because he realized he was getting so much heat.

It's you're picking and choosing while you don't like somebody, and it's easy to use terms to describe a candidate and whatnot.

And I think, you know, that's why a judge's race is so difficult.

because a judge's career, if they've been sitting on a bench for a while, they're going to have it that for, for five years, they're going to have hundreds, if not more decisions made.

And some people aren't going to like them, but you have to process the law.

And you can't just willy-nilly give a person a hundred years in prison for a crime that you're talking about.

And I've read one of the articles parameters that's going to go to appeal immediately and be reduced.

Jane Matenaer

In the time that we have left, I think it's important.

We had Dr. Kristen Lierly was on with us earlier this week, since we're talking about the issue of abortion.

And Laurel Marcinkus was her guest.

Laurel is a young woman in Wisconsin who is married, who had a wanted pregnancy and was forced to wait to get the health care that she needed and subsequently lost her daughter anyway.

Her daughter only lived for two hours.

But let's play that clip, Calvin, from Brad Schimmel.

Talking about the 1849 abortion ban, which apparently he thinks is

great.

The 1849 ban on abortions, which, by the way, what is flawed about that law?

There is not a constitutional right to abortion in our state constitution.

That will be a sham if they find

Jane Matenaer

that.

So please don't tell me, Brad Schimel, how much you care about women?

I don't want to hear it.

Greg Bach

And please don't, and any of those people who were saying that Justice Prostate was had to recuse herself because of her thoughts on the maps,

This man has been talking nonstop about abortion.

If that thing comes to the courts, he should get up, walk out of the room.

He doesn't come back till they're done because that's just fair.

And I'm sorry, you don't like it.

That's called justice.

That's called

Jane Matenaer

being fair.

Please take a listen to a real life experience about what happened to a woman in Wisconsin with a wanted pregnancy who developed sepsis because of how long the unnecessary hoops they made her jump through in order to get the care that she needed.

Subsequently lost her daughter and now, which is what we didn't have the chance to address when they were on,

She is continuing to have problems as she tries to get pregnant.

Greg Bach

What's wrong with it, Brad?

The rules

Jane Matenaer

are obsessed with killing unborn children.

Yeah, no, I'm concerned with women staying alive, pretty much.

Greg Bach

It really, it really, really upsets me when you have the nerve to call yourself pro-life and the life of the mother has no... That's not the important life.

It doesn't matter at all.

Jane Matenaer

That's not the important life.

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