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How are you?
He seems to really be embracing that.
Yeah, he's bringing the chainsaw to government Elon Musk.
So there was a report earlier this week talking about the super pack of his putting
you know, three quarters of a million dollars nearly into that.
He also dropped another one million dollars as Daniel Bice from the Milwaukee Journal sent or reported yesterday into a voter turnout effort for Brad Schimmel.
So, you know, there's a lot of money coming in for, for both sides of this race.
It's, it's a disgusting business.
But
this is what we have.
And I think, you know, were George Soros or some of these other folks running the federal government right now, you know, we might be paying more attention to them.
But lo and behold, we're going to be paying more attention to Mr. Elon Musk because of this.
And so I do wonder if because he's getting so involved in this race, and he has been in the headlines for everything that is happening in
this first month and a day of Trump's second term, if this is going to become almost a referendum on Musk for this race, because I think we're viewing everything about
I think that is the way people are seeing everything in politics right now.
And I think there are a lot of people who want
Strong checks and balances on even people who may have voted for Donald Trump want to make sure that there are some strong checks and balances on what he and what Elon Musk are doing and having you know what Ben Wickler would refer to as a pro-democracy majority What many people are referring to is a liberal majority on the Wisconsin Supreme Court, you know maintaining that might be important for the next four years
But the amount of back-to-back ads for both Crawford and Schimmel, but the one thing that I have not seen Crawford do yet is zero in on Brad Schimmel's excuses for the January 6th attackers.
And that's deeply unpopular.
Deeply
And just a reminder, folks, the reason why they didn't do it on a case-by-case basis for these 1500 cases was because it was too onerous.
It was too much work to go case over those whole 1500.
Who's got time for that?
That's why I didn't finish
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there are a lot of that.
But I do wonder if, you know,
Because Ben Wichler in the past has talked about wanting to nationalize these races.
And I think he did that to a certain degree in 2023 with the race for Janet Protasewicz.
It was the biggest race on the ballot in a swing state in 2023.
So it's going to attract a lot of donor attention, a lot of media attention and what have you.
And I think I do wonder, I thought about this, you know, given the way that the fall election went with Donald Trump winning Wisconsin, if it would be a smart strategy.
to have this race nationalized again, because if you're having, you know, Elon Musk tweeting about it or Donald Trump talking about an impress conference, does that activate that Trump base to go out and vote for Brad Schimmel?
But I think what we're seeing in response to this first month of the Trump administration, and particularly with Elon, I think people are much more frustrated with Elon Musk right now than they are with Donald Trump.
And I think
If this becomes a nationalized race for the Democrats, for, you know, Ben Wickler and what have you, I think it becomes a referendum on Musk and not on Trump.
And I think that is a more successful strategy for Democrats in Wisconsin too.
And that's something I thought about too, just, just in that, what you said before about like if, if.
Susan Crawford, I will call her Joan Crawford.
Susan Crawford wins the election.
That will be the story is that Musk's dollars have been rebuffed.
Even the powerful Elon Musk can't get what they would see as a simple Supreme Court election done.
What else can't he do?
What else is he doing?
And will cause far more attention to him and his activities right now with douche.
Right and I think you know the part of the part of what I wrote about last week in my piece about the Wisconsin Supreme Court race too is just kind of like the timeline that we're on here so like
2023 to me felt like it was kind of the culmination of this year's long effort for liberals to win back control of the court.
You know, they win, they flip a seat in 2018, in 2020, and then in 2023 to win control of the court.
Now we're starting kind of a different run.
So Democrats aren't, you know, the outsiders anymore, the liberals aren't the outsiders, not trying to flip the court, playing defense in a sense.
And so, but this begins a run of six years in a row that we are going to have a Wisconsin Supreme Court race on a spring election ballot.
Yes, I know.
And another, so in order to avoid one of these, everything on the line,
everything on the line elections that we have every, you know, five minutes here in Wisconsin.
Susan Crawford needs to win this one, because if she wins this one, it will, the court will remain in a liberal majority through at least 2028.
So if you're kind of mapping this out for the next few years, because I think that's the way you need to think about
Same in 2027, and that's Eagler, the current Chief Justice, also a conservative.
She's up then, but if Crawford wins now, we don't have the same dynamic going forward for some of these elections, where things, the majority is going to be in play, ping-ponging back and forth in election cycle after election cycle.
So if she wins now against Schimmel, again,
the court will likely be in liberal control until at least, at least 2028.
Why does that matter?
Of course.
Well, who's going to be president until at least 2028, having
I will go ahead.
Thank you for taking my call.
I'm going to deplore you to look at smartelections.us and the Election Truth Alliance.
They have official data from each of the states that is showing that an algorithm kicks in at around 500 votes tallied per county.
per district that it starts flipping votes from one candidate to another.
And I come from a computer science background.
I have looked at the reports through and through the 90 page reports from officials that say the systems are old and they are incredibly vulnerable.
I have a question about the Supreme Court race.
Why do we want to go backwards?
I'm not sure about this.
Dan Schaefer is here from the Reconpopulation area.
We will continue on the other side.
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Right now, though, the creator of the Reconpopulation Area and Civic Media as political editor Dan Schafer is here.
Before the break, we were talking about the Wisconsin Supreme Court race April 1st.
Please make a plan to vote and all of the money, especially money from Elon Musk pouring into the Wisconsin to support Brad Schimmel.
I guess my question to you, I think, is one of the same ones I asked Ben Wickler because
Janet Protis Saywoods was elected by such a landslide, and it was a landslide.
For Wisconsin.
It was Jill Karofsky elected by a wide margin, Rebecca Dalat by a large margin too.
But, you know, things changed quickly in the political cycle.
And, and I think we have to, you know, 2023 is not 2025.
We are, we are, you know, in a different moment now.
And that's kind of what I was getting at with that, talking about how 2023 was like kind of the end of a certain
uh, effort, the kind of the culmination to flip the court and now it becomes a different dynamic.
And I do wonder if that, and I think this is in play for the state superintendent race too, where we have a lot of this like anti establishment, anti status quo energy that's out there and you have, you know,
Liberal aligned candidates or whatever that not unlike last fall were in a position where they were kind of like defending the status quo defending the establishment That's not really working for people anymore, right?
So I don't think it is in a good position in 2025 to be
the defender of the establishment.
And we can talk about, I think it is more in play for the state superintendent race, that energy than the state supreme court race in a lot of ways.
Because we saw 15 plus years of a right wing majority on the state supreme court, that's only been in liberal control for less than two years now, right?
But I think the state superintendent race, I do wonder if that one is going to be,
Jill Underly, the incumbent, defending a system that is maybe not working for people anymore.
I don't think anybody disagrees with that.
My concern is what is going to happen to our public schools, especially in smaller rural communities who do not have a whole bunch of options on where to send their kids.
They just don't have the private number of private schools or charter schools.
And it's those smaller rural communities that are really going to be the ones who end up on the short end of the stick on this.
because if they get their way, they'll build those private schools in those areas.
They'll use that money and build the big schools.
I'm like, we're giving this to you and your kids will go here.
But really, Diane Hendrick school of excellence, ABC for everybody.
But the thing that I was thinking about, and I know that, and I know what you were saying, 2023 is not 2025.
I get that.
But I feel like the margin of victory for Janet Prose, which was so decisive and the calling of the victory was so fast.
in an election year like that.
And in a place in Wisconsin where I saw Trump signs on the same property as a Baldwin sign.
I think when it comes to the courts, and I don't wanna come off sounding naive about this, but I think when it comes to the courts and what we wanted out of our justices and what we want for the state, it's different than a national level, different than a national campaign.
And I have a feeling that people are gonna look at if
the Crawford campaign and the powers that be can make it seem like Schimel is just a lot of the old.
You didn't want Daniel Kelly.
You don't want Brad Schimel and that Crawford will help keep us going forward to make sure that we're a pro democracy state versus a pro liberal or whatever you want to call it.
I love pro democracy.
That's just great.
But I just have this feeling that Crawford has a slight bit of edge even with all the money because people at the end of the day want
The state, as you said, they don't like cheaters.
They want a system that works and they want representatives that could represent them.
And I think you also have to remember what kind of electorate there is for some of these spring elections, special elections.
It's different than a presidential year.
And so I think that's part of what we're seeing in the realignment that we're experiencing right now, where, you know, Trump Republicans are winning more of these high turnout elections.
Some of the low turnout elections where you have more reliable voters
as things are realigning here, are more liberal, democratic aligned voters.
Think of just Dane County.
Like Dane County is gonna be turning out for this election.
And so some of these low propensity voters that I wrote about in a recent column, Donald Trump and the rise of the pro wrestling Republicans that helped power his victory across the state might not be showing up in a spring election the same way they might any presidential year.
And I think that is a huge, huge factor that people need to be considering with this.
And something you brought up in the past, and we just talked to you about with Scott Fitzgerald's listening session, those, those wow counties, the bow counties that were, that were, that were Republican read all the way through on issues like abortion access.
That is what turns people out, especially those women out there who want the autonomy and want the courts to protect that autonomy and not go back to 1849.
So this is going to be a very interesting election, money notwithstanding just the attitude and the energy for the turnout alone for me is what I'm excited about.
So there's going to be forums with these candidates.
There's going to be a debate that we'll be covering at Civic Media.
I was at an event earlier this week with Brad Schimmel at Marquette University where, you know, he kind of talked about his biography and all of that.
It was more of like a get to know you event than like an interview.
But he did open it up to audience questions.
And at the point where he opened it up to audience questions, that's where his answers got like a much more uneven and saying like, oh, I'm not quite
what you're asking there.
And so I wonder how that's going to look when he's at some more of these public forums and debates and things that are in the spotlight.
Network.
Won't somebody recommodulate me?
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Across the Civic Media radio network where he talks all things entertainment.
Good morning Pete.
Thanks for joining us.
I know you've watched almost all the Oscar nominated films.
You should get a prize just for that.
He does I'm I don't know that that will get here, but I've got a lunch packed just in case And I may have to go to Milwaukee.
I was in Milwaukee last weekend I should have seen it there, but I got mixed up and other stuff But it that supposedly based on the people I talked to and the guests I've had on nightlight that seems to be the favorite.
I thought Conclave was the leader right now with Ray Fine and the whole selecting a new pope with the surprise twist at the end.
I was so bored that by that movie, I dumped out way before the end.
And I did finally look up the spoiler.
It's like, I'm still glad I didn't watch the rest of it.
It bored me to tears.
It's kind of interesting how they picked the Pope, but to me, the only thing that made that, the twist at the end made the film.
Otherwise, it's just kind of like, okay, I could have watched a documentary or something, but I liked it, but I don't get that one, the BAFTA, for best picture.
So, yeah, I mean, that could win too, but who knows?
I just thought it was okay.
I really liked the director Sam Raimi He's got a phenomenal reputation.
He made a film for Netflix called don't move where a woman is trying to evade You know or stay away from a serial killer who's drugged her and she's losing her capacities and she has to stay hidden kind of a good thriller the girl from Yellowstone was in it and I Can't remember the guy who plays the killer but
Pretty good movie and a nice watch on Netflix.
It was one of the few films I didn't have to pay 20 bucks for you know to watch because it's up for the Oscars or whatever So that was good.
I liked September 5th, which was about the Munich tragedy in 1972 about how it's a great broadcast film newsroom film about how
ABC Sports was tasked with covering this horrible tragedy.
And ABC News in New York is like, we're taking it.
ABC Sports is like, no, we're here on the ground.
Really cool inner workings about behind the scenes at a newsroom.
And it looked, it really looked good too.
It looked like the 1970s.
You know, I'm always slow to movies.
And in general, because I'm a parent of young kids.
And so getting to a movie theater is such a production to be able to go.
On the other hand, I see I watch a lot of like, you know, the kind of like the prestige TV type of stuff.
So I just watched the new episode of Severance last night.
And I was getting into the debut episode for the third season of The White Lotus, which I'm very excited about.
And I think that season that season is going to be great.
Wow!
I'm sorry.
What's your problem?
Jennifer Coolidge has been playing Jennifer Coolidge her entire career.
It is the same character in every single thing that she's in.
I'll do respect to Jennifer Coolidge for making a career out of it, but she's the daffy, somewhat lost person, and it's the same character every time.
I love her in the Christopher guests movies I don't disagree with you though, but she's so good at doing that like I had John Grice on the show Who plays Uncle Rico and he plays her he plays her husband in white lotus.
Yeah He he's so good, but she's great and she's so good that when they're when they're hanging out together I find myself saying
Please divorce her.
Please get as far away from her as you possibly can.
She's that good and she's great at what she
First of all, I just like hearing people complain.
They're like, oh, they drop an episode a week.
It's just me so mad.
They've been doing that since the beginning of television, Pete.
It's just recent that they drop all the episodes.
So we're getting right back into it.
We've gotten spoiled.
We've gotten spoiled.
But I'm not embarrassed.
No, I'm not embarrassed.
But I know that my choice of what I've been watching, well, it's not as highfalutin as all of yours.
I just watched the first three episodes of season three of Reacher, which is on.
Amazon prime, which is a great shoot them up punch show.
Okay.
This is a British series about a private investigator and it's on HBO max and it's really good.
It's it's
There's always obviously their private investigators.
There's crime.
They have to solve the crime.
Yeah.
A lot of times solving the crime will take over the over over the course of three or four episodes, but it's not.
My gore threshold is very, very low.
So there's not a lot of onscreen violence.
There's not a lot of gratuitous, you know, bloody stuff.
That's good.
I'm
Wow.
Yeah, definitely.
If you're just joining us, Pete Schwabba is our guest.
He's host of Nightlight with Pete Schwabba, 6 to 8 p.m.
Monday through Friday across the Civic Media radio network.
Just talking about what people are watching.
I know you've been watching Landman and Greg is a fan of that show as well.
I love
Yeah.
I like the way it started.
I like Billy Bob Thornton's Sing Songy.
down home voice.
But man, I don't know how you feel, Greg, but the wife and the daughter, I have never felt so dirty and gross watching how they put those two women there.
It's it's it's hard to watch and she's under eight.
It's it's tough for me.
I
You watch Tombstone.
The daughter is just
Well, I find them all irredeemable.
I can't watch, uh, Yellowstone.
Sorry to say Tombstone, I meant to say Yellowstone.
And Landman, the daughter and the mother are just obnoxious.
And the female lawyer is insufferable.
But with Taylor, with Taylor shared in writing, it's always about the old grizzled man who's about to teach you a lesson about life.
Cause none of you kids know what the world's really like.
So I'm going to talk for four minutes about the importance of oil and gas in this country.
And you're going to sit there and listen.
Meanwhile, every old man over over the age of six, he's like, yeah, you tell him, you tell him, Billy Bob.
I agree with you.
I don't like
I will say this.
I like I turned Yellowstone off after like two seasons.
I just couldn't win it.
But I really like the prequels.
I liked 1883.
And the daughter in Landman plays the daughter in 1883.
And she's a really good actor.
Um, 1923 is my favorite of that trilogy.
And we have Jamie McShane, who's got a really good role on 1923 and the show coming up next week.
We'll talk to him about that.
But
So when you watch Green and Gold, which again is the movie about a Packers fan who bets this farm on the outcome of the Super Bowl.
It's I really enjoyed the film.
It's sweet.
It's loving.
It's it's hopeful.
But there is a plot point in there that I contend no self respecting Wisconsinite would do this.
This would never
happen.
And that's my gripe.
I'm not going to tell you what it's about.
We did talk about this a couple of weeks ago.
I went off on a rant and a couple of people have guessed because it involves a prop.
That's all I'll tell you.
There is a prop involved in moving a plot point forward.
It shouldn't be a thing That was the one thing that stuck with me when I got home from that movie and Paul said how was it?
And I said it was great except for this one thing.
It's driving me crazy So go to the movie Pete go see green on Sunday And then well we will reconvene next Friday at the same time and you can you can tell me if you if you understand what I'm what I'm
She just
My buddy Jamie McShane from 1923, which drops this week.
He'll be on the show to talk about that.
Mike Starr, the actor from Goodfellas, and Dumb and Dumber will be on the show Tuesday.
And Mariah Gates from RogerEbert.com, a film critic.
We got a really fun show as we lead up to the Oscars next week.
It should be a blast.
Check out his show, 6 to 8 p.m.
Across the Civic Media Radio Network.
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Thank you so much, Pete.
We'll talk to you next week at the same time.
Thanks, guys.
See you next week.
Stay with us when we return.
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They're going to get it in right under the wire with the weather changing.
Absolutely.
And then from two to four, Maggie Dawn, she's going to have another edition of Ask Maggie.
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It is 11.53.
Calvin, that means it's time for... This shouldn't be a thing.
As always, if you have a thing you think should not be, send it into Greg and me at Jane Says.
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Today it's by the hair of my Chinny Chin Chin edition.
This from the Associated Press.
Headline reads, New York Yankees drop ban on beards 49 years after it was instituted by owner George Steinbrenner.
The New York Yankees dropped their ban on Beards today, 49 years after it was kicked in by George, trying to improve player recruitment.
As the Yankees try to win their first World Series since 2009, current owner Hal Steinbrenner, son of George, announced it before their spring training open today.
Hal says, my dad was in the military.
He believed that a team should look in a disciplined manner.
very important to my father.
But again, for my father, nothing is more important than winning.
And that is what is in the back of my mind.
George Steinbrenner announced that facial policy in 1976, mandating no long hair or beards.
Mustaches were allowed.
Players complied with some pushed boundaries by going unshaven or letting their hair go past their collars.
As recently as Monday, the Yankees had reminders.
on the chair of every player to arrive clean shaven the next day for photo day.
big baseball fan, but as I said at the beginning of the show, I just, I have a discerning amount of taste and I don't like the Yankees.
So, I didn't know that was actually a thing because, and if you think about it 49 years ago, so that was 19, 7, this was 2000.
76.
76.
If you look at what
Baseball players look like in the
Raleigh fingers alone would be enough to send them on a plane home.
You're like, get off of my, get out of my, get out of New York.
But like that idea that you would think not having facial hair would, now I'm going back and thinking about like, yeah, you don't notice it.
You don't even think about that.
Think about all the Yankees I've seen in my life.
I don't think, yeah, none of them
Yeah, I guess I knew about this rule But or that the Yankees did this but I always assumed it was like around since like the inception of the franchise in like 1890 But this ornery own or owner in 1976 just like you know what I want every player to be clean-shaven,
My goodness.
Well, that's all right.
They're free now.
They're free.
They're follicle free.
Can't wait for them to not win again.
And that wraps up today's edition of...
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