Emplify Health and Wrestling in Wisconsin (Hour 2)

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Emplify Health and Wrestling in Wisconsin (Hour 2)

Maino and the Mayor · Fri Jun 27, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Thank you very much.

Welcome back.

Our special guest right now, Mark Houston.

Implified by Bell and Health Sports Medicine.

How you doing, Mark?

Great.

How are you guys?

Good.

We're good.

Good.

Happy two-year anniversary to all you guys.

Thank you.

Thanks for

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being a big part

of it.

You know, when I pulled up,

I saw these parking stalls.

I thought Jim called the city again.

Right, with the yellow bag shaped on the

city.

Where we begged the meters

in celebration.

Nobody came.

I thought he was closing on the street.

So I was like, you know, I was a little worried.

I'm like, I'll park down the street.

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In our two-year span, that was the most accomplishment, the biggest accomplishment that he had.

Wouldn't you say, Todd?

I would say.

You wait.

I'm working on the third.

You wait.

You wait.

We didn't have the ping-pong

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balls.

We didn't have

the whatever.

But by God, those guys pulled up with

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saw horses to shut

down the street at 6.30 in the morning.

You wait.

So Mark.

Amplify, which is a great name.

Thank you.

And I think it's catching on, right?

I mean, you got it on your...

You guys are doing a well, very good job at saying it too.

I mean, it's, I think it's new for us.

Right.

28 years, I've said Belen Health, Belen Health, Sports Medicine.

Now it's a new name for us.

So it does take a little bit, but thank you for it.

There's some meaning to it.

Right.

Empathy, right?

Yep.

And...

It's larger.

You even on your signs.

That's that's become the by Bellin is smaller.

Yeah, it's it's a endorser

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that will ever go away because you know what Bellin adds a tremendous bit of professionalism and what you guys have done in credibility and serving the

community want to get rid of that hundred plus years.

So that's what it it helps, you know, but

in today's market.

I mean, a lot of people have said, I can't believe we did that.

We have had employees say that.

I do understand it.

It comes down to the market has changed.

The market has changed, not in Northeast Wisconsin.

It's across the country.

There are larger entities.

Like unprecedented, right, Mark?

I mean, there are thousands of places that just have been bought up by a larger agency.

Ours is a merger where it's two

healthcare groups to go together.

There's probably pros and cons to both, but we do feel like it's the best thing that we could have done for today's world and long-term sustainability.

It's going to take time, but you wait, Sean.

You'll be talking to your grandkids someday, and they'll say, yeah, where do you get your healthcare amplified?

They used to be called Bellen.

What?

I never heard of

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that.

Well, there's still a Bellen building

right down the block here.

Yeah, that is true.

That's

true, there is some.

Real quick, I think it was yesterday you guys talked about tallest Bill and you thought it was our hospital

Yeah,

I did.

I you know what I think it is.

I I think I heard it was north about northern hotel.

Oh,

oh

We are eight.

I know I know we are eight floor floors.

I think the confusing thing is it's a matter of Because some people I heard this before Skray Hill, I believe is the tallest I would bet point

In Brown County, and that's what gets confusing that quick, but I think when I heard buildings I did hear us I heard saying Vincent's and Then someone said no the hotel is the tallest in Brown County.

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That's a good point Yeah, I could like count how many floors each one is

but Lambeau fields tall the stadium because I held off I will say this last night and I

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was in Allaway right by the prison

Okay, to take the thing and boy when that you talk about something majestic I mean here it is five miles away or whatever, but it just stands out in a cool way It's not like this whatever that's pretty cool.

Well, I and I'll tell you this I had I was blessed.

I lived just south of the prison for many years During the fall when the leaves would fall I could get on my roof It was and it was just a basic cat home But I can get on my roof and I can look down towards Lambo and I was enough

path of the flyovers.

So they'd stay on the other side of the river, but I could see it coming.

But

that bellen building, like I said, remember the repel thing off the top of the building?

I did that.

That's high.

I wonder if that was...

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You were repelled off of bellen?

I thought you did Lambo.

Oh,

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Lambo.

I was just going to say, I think Lambo might be taller than Bellen.

I just know that the trick question in the county is, what building has the most floors?

That's the Green Bay sewage district because it goes down.

Oh, that's an interesting

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trick question,

but

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it's true.

I mean they're underneath Anyway, that I'm gonna look into that because that's an interesting question if

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somebody is here is from Chicago or someplace

like

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You're arguing if the

eight-story building is the biggest.

John Hancock,

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Sears.

We've got gas

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stations that are 8.5.

I

know, I know.

But yeah, thank you for bringing up the name.

I mean, it's great.

It's great just to rhyme people.

We are still around.

We will still be around, I hope, for another hundred years.

And I just love how you continue to grow.

I mean, it was hard, hard, hard.

This children's,

I

guess it's adolescent, you know, called the Children's Hospital.

Adolescent clinic.

Okay.

And this is

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revolutionary.

We need that.

With

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two daughters and three granddaughters.

This sounds like something I would have taken advantage of.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I think, and

I think there's no more

Milwaukee, Madison.

No, and that's what it did is, you know, if you need it, we can get you to those places.

Oh, yeah.

But it's one of those things of, again, it's one thing if you live in Green Bay, what happened if you live in the UP?

Now, do you want to be going all the way down to Milwaukee?

I know a lot of people that have to

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explain the whole thing for we're getting our head of ourselves here

a

little

bit.

Yeah.

I

thought it was open.

It doesn't open

to August.

August, yeah.

It looks like we're open.

I mean, it looks like it's pretty much done.

They've come a long way.

So it's called the adolescent clinic.

I want to do a disservice to Jamie, Mary Lou, and a lot of the gales who are part of this whole process.

And we'll get them on.

Yeah, we'll get them on.

But it's we're going to have services there.

for your younger population and needs where you used to have to go to Madison, Milwaukee to get them because they didn't have the specialty physicians or they didn't have the tools or the machines to do it.

I think the big thing is sensory.

How do you help out some kids who don't wanna go in and get a lab or need a little extra time?

maybe they have a special x-ray that needs to be done.

I was describing an off air of we used to have to do these x-rays and literally stitched three or four different x-rays together to get a full body even with these young kids.

Now it can all be in one shot.

So it's correct.

This is going to be big time for the area partnership with Children's Wisconsin, ThetaCare, Bell and Health.

It's called Connected for Kids, but it's going to be our clinic and then services provided in there.

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From the year I came to Green Bay in 1984 to now is like the dark ages to the modern age, isn't it?

Yeah.

I mean, we had like St.

Mary's and St.

Vincent's and you know, but it wasn't.

It was just one of those things you go to the doctors.

Now, this is an industry

in this area.

And I think just shortening it up and bringing people to the valley, bringing people to Green Bay, again, when your kid is sick, it's tough enough on a parent that you have to think, man, I got to drive down for all these appointments and rechecks and the surgery and it can all be done right here.

And some of it's less time off work, less miles you're having to drive.

you don't have to take three.

Less stressful miles.

Yeah, you don't take three kids out of school.

Is there anything more

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stressful than bringing your kid to

a specialist in cinema walking?

Think about it, if you got one kid, but now I got two other kids and we're not gonna be back until seven o'clock.

So who's taking care of those kids after school?

The stress.

So we're hoping to provide so many other resources right here in our community.

And the other thing I'm grateful for is, you know, it's just the economic impact of being a regional healthcare facility.

I mean you guys make pretty good money and rightfully so and to have that with Aurora and then to have a couple of you guys being you know the helicopters and I mean this is this is regionally talked about coming down from the UP and Kiwani and everywhere else.

I mean this is the place to come and the And we're very blessed to have paper right and and food service and cheese and and packaging right but boy to have health care is such a draw be a hub to be a hub

Sit to draw it for talent for young talent and to come in here and the internships like you right weren't you an in turn at one time and you know, I just Are you a

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local town that doesn't need to

right move somewhere?

We're lucky to have that here and so this is and we'll take nothing for granted because some places have lost their health care

Well, you know and I'm gonna jump western part of the state.

Yeah, it's true And I want to jump back like when we you guys had Mary Lou in here, right was that last week?

Two weeks ago last week and it was I think the big thing with that that we're trying to do is also when these young kids come up Keep them here or keep that interest.

That's what I mean.

So like hey You can leave and go to school, but when you want to come back we have opportunities right here right here in your hometown Again, it may also be up north.

We have clinics up north We want some people to live up there and provide that care

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Well another cool thing is like when I was in real estate and Jim found this too I remember these people from I forget Pennsylvania or someplace and it was I think it was an ER doctor and you had to live a certain and he could not believe that he could have a place in the country out in the country and still be able to be inside of that window I mean they bought this beautiful house but they he just he goes is this legit

yeah

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I mean that's that's a perk for the medical people that's huge I think

yeah I think a lot of people just have to get up here

and say, man, this is, it's a great committee, you know.

The money goes pretty far here too.

And

you guys, like I said, I know a little bit about health care because I got a daughter.

And you pay pretty well.

So yeah, this is a great place.

And I think that eventually, but our job, if they grew up here is a good thing, but if they haven't, we got to expose them to it.

And I think that's where the Packers come in and the draft came in.

And

I think we got to get

people to come here and

say,

wow, hey, this, I might.

But

even basic things at restaurants, you know, what's available downtown and downtown Green Bay.

But it's also in these other outlying communities as well.

There

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are

so many opportunities that, you know, it's not like I have to live in this area.

You have a lot of choices.

You have a lot of great school districts.

You have a lot of great grocery stores.

You have events you can go to on the weekends.

And

look, if it doesn't meet your, you are your spouse's standards all the time,

I mean Milwaukee in Chicago was not that far.

Correct.

I mean, if you leave at noon, you know, you're there by three, three thirties.

But again, then we go back to what Jim started with was, now if you have a sick kid and you have to drive to Madison, Milwaukee, twice a week, you know, I think that's two hours down, two hours back, waiting for appointments, you got other labs.

That's a long day.

And now you're doing that.

And no one wants anyone who's sick.

No one wants to be sick.

But when it's there,

We're a local.

It's great.

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Well, the thing is, too, if somebody does come in, we had the lady on, she was super great to have on.

They're going to be renting out their place, their facility on Mason Street, just kind of across from Channel 5.

And it's when people come into town for treatments.

Oh, the McDonald's.

The McDonald's type house.

You know, they've got those facilities here now, too, that are for people.

Because I'll be honest with you, people from the UP, Green Bay is there.

If there's anything serious, it's Green Bay.

Yep.

That's great.

I mean, I'm glad that's going on.

I'm sure you're gonna hire some people too at that new place.

Correct.

Oh, yeah, and a lot of them have been hired already.

Okay.

Yeah, I believe it's Man, would you think about hiring me or no?

No,

no, there's

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a competition Michael wants

to hire me

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for There's

things I could

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do I could be a greeter.

Yeah maintenance is taking care of I play

with the kids out in

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the sensory

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John Maino

Hey, welcome back.

Michael the Mayor here on a Friday morning, WGBW and WISS, of course, the Civic Media app.

Great lineup starting off today in the leadout spark spot Mark Houston, amplified by Bell and health sports medicine.

We got TJ bulls and Josie Valentine, HWE wrestling.

They are always fun.

They she's here already.

Oh,

oh, I think maybe we could do a little trial action this morning.

So you hit, you know, if you guys are really on point

physically.

What does that mean?

Well, she's a wrestler.

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Yeah.

I heard that if I didn't have a good close on.

And if I that shoulder I didn't tell you guys.

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Yeah.

Yeah, you shouldn't be doing that.

No,

thanks John.

I've got

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my camera all set.

And daddy D productions are live music series exclusive and Nate but Mark Houston you guys have a lot of stuff going on.

I mean here you had the the run.

Yeah Bell and run

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Bell and run very successful high school sports football high school sports coming up, which is huge You guys don't have a downtime anymore.

Do you?

I think my staff is probably, and it's not my staff, it's really our entire team, but it doesn't slow down.

High schools are just wrapping up as last week, but now we've got summer practices.

This weekend we're helping out Duck Creek Triathlon out in Duck Creek, Village of Howard.

YMCA is putting on a large triathlon, 275.

Triathletes still be out in the Duck Creek, then they'll be biking and running.

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Were they swimming in the quarry?

They're swinging the quarry.

Oh, cool.

Was

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it the full triathletes?

It's a triathlon.

It's not like an Iron Man.

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OK, all

right.

We get a guy coming out next week.

Todd,

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is it 18 hours his event?

Oh, I think it's 24 hours.

24

hours

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in Hawaii, right?

Yeah.

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No, I'm

Washington Island.

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Oh, Washington Island.

That's right.

That's right.

That's right,

sir.

They would love you.

They would love to hear you say Hawaii.

Yeah, I said Washington Island.

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Yeah, I screwed up.

Yeah, I knew it was on

a. It's Wisconsin.

It's an

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island.

It

is.

That's just like Hawaii, John.

We'll wash an eye in Hawaii.

Yeah, same thing.

That's that's why I said that John.

Actually, I was applying for their marketing department.

I think I would take Washington Island over Hawaii.

Yeah, we were last when we were up in Dirk County.

We didn't go to the Washington Island.

We did a trip up to Gills Rock and had to get some smoked salmon for my wife.

And that's that's the anniversary trip every year.

So

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nothing

wrong with that.

Yeah, no, I mean, it's we appreciate the community support and just being out there.

But there are so many events that are going on.

you know, from baseball games.

How do you

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guys pick,

Mark?

How do you choose?

That's a challenge.

I think we have to, I mean, everyone, we love to provide the care, but unfortunately it comes down to, we have to look of saying, you know, how much staff do we have?

Or what are they around?

Like, we want to give them a break too.

That is one of our challenges.

So,

Yeah, I've been looked at a few times like why did you just pick that up?

So, uh, yeah, I have to go back to account.

I have a calendar that goes out two years.

Oh, yeah.

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On Friday night, sometimes you'll text me from different places where you are.

So

with the, and that's so great, how community minded you are, how, how is the business?

Is there enough business for, because you're all growing.

I mean, I see new clinics popping up, um, expansions with, I guess I'll call them your competitors, but it's like that industry.

Uh,

is it.

You

all making money?

No, I think it's the the reimbursement rates gotten a lot less.

Well, they but it's you make money I think what it is is it's being creative and innovative and I think that's something that I've been very proud of working with at Bell and Health and now amplify health is they allow us to be creative and innovative because you're just gonna be stagnant You're gonna do the same product.

Yeah, it's just gonna get old.

You know, that's not it's gonna be a challenge Can I

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just say one thing that I think is one of the

greatest compliments I guess you guys could get is the fact that so many young athletes, high school athletes, had to go through you guys because of an injury or something and then thought it was such a fantastic experience, go into that field.

We don't want to see injuries but unfortunately a lot of people say, hey I injured my ACL or I tore my shoulder up.

And I became a physical therapist, or I became a nurse, or I became an orthopedic surgeon.

And again, we've had the college on.

It's the opportunities that we provide just to start.

And we have kids starting middle school, freshman year, understanding it.

What's it like to be a surgical tech?

What's it like to be a nurse anesthetist?

You know, giving them the opportunity.

We also want them to understand of

Hey, you may have to draw blood in that you're a phlebotomist.

Well, I don't want to touch blood.

Well, guess what?

Then you probably don't want to be a phlebotomist.

You know what I mean?

So it's learn now instead of spending.

I mean, I think I've always felt like it's very sad where someone says, I took four years to become a nurse and I don't like it.

It's like, man, I wish we would have known that in your- Get the real life experience early, huh?

Yeah.

And akin to that is I think-

Sometimes because people grow up in a lane.

They're not exposed to enough and dr. Huntsman says that from from medical college, but even this thing out at the cow No, the engineering.

I mean some

kids, you know that They're taking stuff apart and their parents yell at him.

It's like wait this kid quality is that he likes to see how things are put taken apart and he puts it back together So to expose somebody to engineering and I don't know that that was big in my house.

I mean that just wasn't a thing I just think it's great that they're they

learn a little bit more about medicine, medical things, and engineering, and everything else.

Mark,

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we're really being interrupted

by somebody

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here.

So if you can just buy us for a minute there.

Hello, Snarky Brian.

Hi, John.

Hi, John.

Hi, Jim.

I was up in the U.P.

yesterday and I brought you something back.

I just

want to appreciate it.

It's a brown bag from the

U.P., so.

What'd you just say?

It's shaped like a bottle.

Marijuana.

Pasties!

Pasties,

there you go.

Thank

you, guys, and

Tom.

But then no, I stopped by my way up to market.

And then these are

really good.

You're a little porcupine.

I didn't

know you were going

to be here.

Mark.

It's a Friday, you know, Brian is bringing like every gift in for John.

He's set

for the next

month.

This

is so awesome.

I figure chocolate and pastries is great.

When you

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go to that area, though,

right?

When I retire, that

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would you really wrap

up there?

Yeah.

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They

have a lot of

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openings.

Yeah.

I mean, they, I mean, they've had to JV seasons and everything up there.

But the whole football thing, you know what?

There's more eight

man in the U.P.

now than 11 man.

Eight man is fun to do.

It's so quick.

It's almost like it's almost like the NFL flag stuff that it's just so fast.

It's fun to do.

So

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awesome.

I don't want to

interrupt,

but thank you.

And thanks for listening.

Three fifty seven minutes.

Don't microwave them.

They're ready.

They're already.

Yes.

Thanks, guys.

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Thank you, buddy.

You're the best.

Narky Brian.

He's awesome.

All right.

Mark Houston, it's always a pleasure

having you here, buddy.

We appreciate everything you guys do.

Come

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back next week.

We got a lot more to talk

about.

We do.

I'm coming in Thursday.

You're

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the man.

Quick break.

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John Maino

Thank you very much.

Thank you to Snarky Brian for bringing us pasties from the Pope up in the UP.

and Stigley's candy bars, which are phenomenal.

And I'm gonna, you know what?

I'm gonna give this to a person that needs some energy.

I'm giving this to Josie.

I'm giving it to Josie.

Josie is our special guest, Josie Valentine and TJ Boles, HWE Wrestling Entertainment.

We...

enjoyed the night we spent with you guys so much and I mean we went up and you know did our little introduction type thing but just being backstage and meeting the people and then going out there and watching that is I don't know what it even cost you that is one heck of a piece of entertainment for the price it really and truly is it was its first class with what you do sold out by the way

and sold out by the way

oh yeah the last two shows we've done were sold out yeah

Yeah, no, I always try to make sure we put on the absolute best production, the absolute best talent that we can backstage too.

Uh, we always bring in the best people, good people, good human beings.

And, uh, yeah, we take care of any, any guests.

And you guys were esteemed guests that night.

So we wanted to make sure we took care of you.

We even, uh, through that, uh, little, little interaction with you and Peter Schwanz, if you remember that thrill.

Oh yeah.

The legend thrill.

And I, you, this is, this takes place at Badger State, which is of course, um, right on Tony Candio drive.

And, um,

That's a great place to hold this.

One is there's a sea of parking.

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I mean

parking is never an issue there, whereas some other places it can be.

And I would just, I don't want to sell anything on price because it's worth, you could raise your prices, but.

You own the company, so you can do what you want.

I mean, $15 or $20 for front row seat, that's...

Yeah, $20 for front row.

As of right now for the show this Sunday, we only have nine of those left.

And then $15 at the door, but if you buy advanced online, it's $10.

And not just that though, but we have plenty of deals.

We try and hook people up with.

Every show, if you put a promo code in on the online site, you get 15% off.

Right now, it's Memento's 15, and you get 15% off.

That's front row or general admission.

And we also always do a package deal, which one of my good friends, Andrew Johnson from the Green Bay Rockers, he kind of gave me these ideas and stuff.

We do a package deal where you get four general admission tickets for 35 bucks.

So, you know, save some money with that.

So we're always trying to help people out, hook people up.

And I said, when we were there, I always like to look at the crowds, you know, I've been to some seminars on how to promote events, right?

to look at the crowds.

I was surprised and pleasantly surprised how many families were there.

I think that's like really cool.

I didn't know it was just a good crowd.

Sometimes you think a restaurant is going to be like a lot of, you know, maybe, I don't know.

But it was really nice to see how many kids were there with their parents.

And I think that's awesome.

It's

a clean

show.

And those kids are going to grow up with this.

So they're going to be someday with their kids in 20 years.

Oh, yeah.

Actually, some of those kids, there's times where

It really makes people like me, who've been in the business for like a few years, shy of 20 years now, makes us feel a little bit aged when we have people going, I was a kid.

And you're just now starting wrestling?

Yeah.

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Can I interrupt?

Do you have any idea how many times we have somebody sitting exactly where you're sitting?

And they're, you know, they're president of the such and such, whatever.

And she'll, they'll, it's all, normally you won't mention me.

I listened to you when I was in the third grade on the school bus.

How many times do I get that,

Jeff?

It's

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incredible.

I feel like on one hand, it's a compliment, and then on the other hand, it's like, is this a compliment?

I know.

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Exactly.

Hey, introduce a very special guest.

Yes.

Yeah, so this is Josie Valentine from Chicago, the Icebox.

She is an up-and-comer in the area.

She's been putting in a lot of grind, a lot of work.

She's been making her name known on the Indie Circuit.

She is becoming a regular at HWE, Hybrid Wrestling Entertainment.

And yeah.

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Josie between you and these people we had on young women your age for a bodybuilding competition about a month ago.

I and we're talking about aging I'm so old that cheerleading was a big thing for young women

back then

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you guys have just taken the sports world in every capacity and never look back.

Congratulations flowing it out of the water.

I'm really excited for like women

Nowadays, it's just like finally, hey, if the boys can do it, we can do it.

Absolutely.

Saying that she fights like a girl, that wouldn't be a compliment.

Yeah, toughest tomboy in the ring.

You definitely

are.

Let's talk a little bit about you getting into wrestling.

That's

just not

something that like when Johnny and I were your age, a lot of girls did or women would refer to you as.

What was, you said you played some softball, some basketball.

You liked sports when

you were in high school?

Yeah.

The small, uh, originally from Chicago, grew up in a small town in Iowa as well.

So during high school and middle school, there wasn't really much to do.

So it was either stay at home, get fat, lazy, or go out and hit the basketball court with some friends and...

play softball basketball.

John Maino

Iowa, though, as a state, has always been one of the real leaders in women's

sport.

I remember

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years and years ago, I think it was the Kirk Gowdy show.

They showed the Iowa Girls Basketball Tournament where you couldn't go over half court and all those kind of things.

And it's like, Iowa has always been one of those states where it's like they foster women's sports, don't they?

And it's like, if you

want to be a

John Maino

wrestler, you can be a

wrestler.

Yeah.

If you have anything on your mind, you can.

go above and beyond with it.

So the organization was there and you joined it or how would you how did you get attracted to the wrestling?

So if I can interrupt one

John Maino

second, quick text here.

Hey friends, Ethan Ronio.

So he's saying hello to you guys.

Sorry, Josie.

No, no.

So basically I was actually born into professional wrestling.

I have an older brother, believe it or not, that is.

14 years older than me.

And so he was majorly into Shawn Michaels, Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock, 90s, 80s wrestling.

So when the youngest was born, which is me, and nobody wanted to watch wrestling, he's like, hey, you have no choice.

So you're going to sit here and watch professional wrestling with me.

And then ever since then, I have been a major fan.

And

John Maino

who's your like idol?

John Cena.

Oh, really?

Yeah, John Cena.

Wrestler that I've seen I remembered like the iron fist for SmackDown and I saw him.

I was like that's my that's my guy That's my wrestler.

I want him.

I want that as my favorite wrestler.

John Maino

That's awesome.

What was there?

It's gonna be you know the fabulous mula

No, unfortunately at the time women's wrestling wasn't really taken seriously, so I actually tape studied the men so John Cena Randy Orton Jeff Hardy CM Punk all those guys I look up to all of them.

That's awesome.

Tell me about the

the women part of it, getting into that.

So you didn't have an idol that you looked at.

You kind of broke the ice on that?

Yeah, yeah.

So women's wrestling, unfortunately, wasn't really respected at the time back in corrective, if I'm wrong, a lot of bronze panties matches.

Yeah, a lot of kind of joke matches.

Nothing ever taken serious.

I think you're right.

And then Tristratus and Lita kind of took the bar and ran with it.

Oh, I love

Lita.

And then 2016, 2017.

And she is really cool.

When

John Maino

we did the thing with Tammy Elliott for the Regis show, and they had us come to the show beforehand.

Oh,

you went

John Maino

to that?

Triple H was the guy when Tammy was on.

But as Lita did a segment, we got to meet her backstage.

Oh, nice.

John Maino

And she was doing a cooking segment and everything.

So cool.

It's so cool how they can take this persona and be so successful, but still be completely different out of the ring and

everything.

She was

John Maino

so cool.

Yep, like a switch.

Yes.

I think it's just nine years ago

this caught on

as far as female wrestling goes like nowadays They called it the divas revolution that was like the time it really became a thing or female wrestling Revolution really because like the term divas is like really outdated for women's wrestling just because it's like the memories of Like she said just silly joke matches or you get like right three minutes.

I remember that now they're coal main eventing

Major shows if not main like truly main eventing shows.

They're doing stuff They're working in cages and stuff like that like a hardcore matches that you never would have expected Women to do because they were considered fragile, but now they're tough.

They're tough as nails Oh, that's not even a question.

So

John Maino

you guys spent a lot of time in the weight room too.

Oh, yeah for sure Yeah, four or five days out of the week for me

and in her name in her name icebox.

Come on.

Yeah, it's a great

Yeah,

oh and so you've been how long been doing the

I don't know.

Is it called the professional circuit?

Or what do you?

Yeah.

Yeah, that counts.

Yeah.

My two year just came June 16th.

So I've been in the business for two years.

Where did you

John Maino

train Minnesota?

Is that normally where people train or?

Not going to lie.

I've kind of trained a handful of everywhere.

So a little bit back in Iowa and then kind of settled down in Chicago.

Okay.

So

John Maino

do they still have schools?

Like, who

was it?

Baron Von

John Maino

Rashma or whatever?

They always used to run those schools.

Yeah, so it's very informal.

Okay.

If you remember Aaron Arsenault we had, he

was

trained in a barn.

Right?

No way.

Yeah.

I did not know that.

Yeah.

I did not know that.

Josie, she's received more formal training, and now I believe she trains essentially, I don't know.

So her trainer is a legend.

He is the ice pick Vic Capri from Chicago, one of the toughest, one of the, honestly, one of the most respected people in the business.

That's her trainer right now.

And where does he train?

Describe Vic's school?

It's really laid back, honestly.

He's very...

Understanding I didn't really have a lot of training underneath my belt, so he kind of took me to side under his wing and was like all right This is what we're gonna work with and did you

John Maino

have any I was thinking this at the night of your thing Did you have any gymnastics training because no

no ballet actually?

My dad was like we're putting her in ballet my mom's like I don't think she'll like that in the future, but I mean

John Maino

Jerry Rice the legendary wide receiver used to take ballet lessons That's a phenomenal sport for

no matter

John Maino

what else you want to do

Yeah, I would agree with that ballet, ice skating, just all that stuff can really work for you.

So I just want to get to your name, Icebox, because at Icepick was your trainer?

No,

no, no, no relation, no correlation about it.

All right.

OK, I thought

Kathryn Lake

maybe I was onto something

there.

How did you pick Icebox?

Believe it or not, a very well known movie back from the 90s.

Do these guys will know the movies?

Oh, OK.

So there was a movie called Little Giants.

Oh, yes.

Yep.

Yep.

Little

John Maino

child.

What's his name from Rick Moranis?

There

you go.

Rick Moranis.

I love that movie.

It's a great movie.

Believe it or not, born in the 90s, but still love 80s, 90s movies for me since I have older siblings.

But basically, the main character is she's a tough tomboy, always hanging with the boys.

Even if the boys are scared of her in the movie.

So growing up, I was like, well, you know, some boys are scared of me.

I never...

had any boys chasing after me, like the cheerleaders and everything.

So I'm just one of the boys and we might as well pick up and go with this gimmick.

All those

John Maino

movies back then, though, had the one tough girl.

Yep, the one tough girl.

Yeah,

John Maino

like Bad News Bears.

Yeah.

And it was

John Maino

What's Your Name when we became super famous, but they all had that one tough girl.

Yeah.

Tough Tom Boy, always skateboarding.

Exactly.

It's interesting because you say how that, you know, had all those older movies had that.

Yeah.

And look at what that, you know,

did for the generation of girls watching that girl enough.

They felt like they can do that, and they didn't have to fit into a certain mold.

Absolutely.

I completely agree.

I don't remember that in sound or music, but

okay.

I would not want to be in the dark alley.

John Maino

The tough women in the sound or music were the nuns.

That's right.

She did take the recovery cap off.

That's just really cool that you're doing this.

And I'm sure there's a lot

of

there's a lot of young

Girls looking up to you and you'll see that when you get to your show

on Yes, yes,

John Maino

I'm gonna read a couple of texts or TJ and Ethan run a great show I continue to be impressed with hwe Entertainment and the entertainment they provide for all ages Jason got another texture.

I always loved to watch Sasha Banks Mercedes Monet.

She is so good Deanna

That's awesome Sasha Banks is part of the the Diva revolution women's wrestling revolution where they really changed the whole landscape Sasha Banks is Mercedes Monet is very awesome.

Do you guys want to see a picture?

John Maino

Yeah,

sure.

Here we go.

John Maino

This is a picture of me in high school football.

Oh football I was worried there was

John Maino

gonna be a

wrestling

John Maino

scene behind me who's about to cover and became a big-time pro wrestler I want

to say

John Maino

might have been haystack

somebody

John Maino

he's from Gwynn, Michigan

Okay, that's the big at number 74.

He's twice my size.

Hey sex Calhoun.

Is that what is?

That's only

John Maino

hey sex I could think of and he was a legend.

I know

John Maino

this guy died fairly young then.

He's from Gwynn, Michigan.

I got to look up pro wrestlers from Gwynn, Michigan, but that's him.

But he was WWE.

Yeah,

there you go.

All right, Josie Valentine.

We are going to be talking to you a little bit more about your show.

John Maino

Anybody ever call you Josie Wales, you get those lines

all

John Maino

the time?

No, no, it's probably

not.

Okay, I'm not gonna do it here, because

Kathryn Lake

you take my... Ice box.

Ice box is all good.

That's you bet it is.

John Maino

Todd is so good at finding the appropriate

music for every guest.

That's right.

When he was playing Ice Ice Baby, I was commending him.

That was really good choice.

John Maino

That's what he does.

TJ Boles, Josie Valentine, HWE Wrestling Entertainment, round one summer series at Badger State.

Josie, you're fascinating, but...

When you get into the ring, what is your persona?

Who are you?

Because that was even the fun part being backstage with you guys.

We're eating sushi with these guys and whatever, whatever.

And then they're out on the ring being this other character.

Who are you like when you're in the ring?

I'm honestly still myself just amping it up to 110%.

When I first started, I was kind of was somebody I wasn't.

I was wearing pink, believe it or not.

Special somebody was like, hey.

You get rid of that pink and you go out there and you be that tomboy.

I know you are and I was like, oh snap Okay, I guess we can be ourselves in the ring.

So let's let's amp it up to 110% and let's go

John Maino

so the natural you is that kind of

that?

Cool,

is this you on the poster?

No, I was hoping not

John Maino

Yes, if this was her

I

Todd

Well, I

can't even say

anything.

OK.

Well, where's she on the poster?

She's unfortunately not on this poster because she is not officially on this show.

She actually.

So this is what I mean by the grind in the past.

She looks

she looks friendly.

So she does not look friendly.

So she puts in so much grind and hard work, right?

She's not even on the show officially this Sunday.

But she says she's like so this Sunday she's gonna come up hang out See if she can get a spot work hard set up and all this stuff Not even guaranteed and she was still she just wants to help the business She wants to help the industry so even though she's not even officially scheduled She was even still willing to come up here and do this radio show with you guys.

That's we appreciate that like you

John Maino

can't

believe you And I think you're gonna make it it's like it's this kind of stuff we talked about we talked about these musicians.

They said, you know just

if there's an opening they're gonna play.

You know what I mean?

And that's

just, that's the way life is

getting started.

Believe it or not, I'm actually gonna be like in Iowa Saturday night and then I'd be lining a seven, eight hour drive for Green Bay.

People

John Maino

don't know that great

part

of Green Bay.

No, no they don't.

It's

comedians, it's anybody.

I mean, it's not hard work, but those are the ones that make it too.

And you know that.

For sure.

John Maino

That's awesome.

What's your favorite part about doing this?

I'm sure you've been asked that a million times.

Is it game night or?

You know game time so to speak or

what is it favorite part of doing this is actually meeting people Okay, like I never growing up.

I was like, okay.

Well, this is what we're gonna do.

We're gonna get into shape We're gonna go try to find a school and then we're gonna go I I didn't unfortunately know what the indies were at the time So I didn't know you had to grind and then wake your way up But I also didn't know you're gonna be meeting amazing people on the way there like I can't tell you how many times I've ran into somebody.

I'm like, oh my god, like Do you remember this time we did this and blah blah blah?

I just saw one of my friends, the wrestling business is crazy, because I saw somebody two years ago, and then I just recently saw him and I was just like, I haven't seen you in two years.

Where have you been?

I was like, oh, I'm doing my own thing.

I'm either on the West Coast or the East Coast Wrestling.

So it's just meeting people as you go.

That's probably my favorite part.

Can

I

ask

you how old you

are?

27 okay,

there's a kid that we have on here who is going to make it in boxing

Yes,

I mean he's he's like you though.

He will go anywhere anytime to the box.

I broke a bone in his

John Maino

hand right before the nationals Oh, but he's timing.

He's good.

He's

but he just is crazy about and doesn't want to do anything else.

What's your plan B?

There ain't no plan B.

No plan B, no plan

B. I kind of sense that with

you too.

Yeah, my mom's very upset with that.

Unfortunately, she's like, you went to college, right?

Yeah, no mom, we talked in the college.

I was the athletic jock girl.

No school, I wasn't really interested in school, so.

John Maino

That's cool.

Sports all the way.

It's gonna be fun

to watch you.

And

like Johnny

said, you are welcome back here anytime.

We want

to see you do well.

of what they're doing better state in that whole industry because it's something that was big when John and I were kids, Crusher and people you don't know, but Scrapper and Gordowski.

But this

John Maino

level that they're doing wasn't very cool.

It was kind of a, you know, I was living in Flint, Michigan and these organizations would come around, we're even up in the U.P.

and it's like, they were nearly as professional as you guys

are.

Right, it was more show,

John Maino

right?

You know, yeah.

I feel

like the

John Maino

guys like overweight and they're but you know, you know such an athlete

Yep, I feel it's just the way the the business has evolved to you know, right now We want to put on all the the spotlights and the show and the glamour and everything like that and they had it back in the day too But it was just in small little pockets and you guys

John Maino

are competing with a lot more competition

for that

John Maino

entertainment

And it is and

Which I'm okay with that because I think competition does make people better.

Competition creates quality.

It does.

And I think we have that here in our community.

You know, you look at just pick up the paper or look at the website today, what's going on in Green Bay tonight and tomorrow.

It's just, it's awesome.

And you're one of them.

It's just going to be great.

So a lot of choices and people go where they get their value and you're one of them.

So you

do have some tickets left or no.

Front row, we still have nine front.

Okay, and then we do still have general admission.

Okay.

We are running a Sunday for the first time at 2 15 3 o'clock, you know in the afternoon I'm expecting it's gonna be a pretty good Walk-up.

I actually posterized a lot of places.

We actually that so you have a regular poster there We also from here on out.

We're printing an alternate Spanish poster and

Kathryn Lake

I've been going

I've been hitting as many Spanish markets grocery stores Puerto Rican places well with one of my co-workers and we're doing Lucha Libre

Trying to bring in as many of those people actually want the main event Aaron Arsenal versus Rafael Quintero the diamond in the rough He's a big lucha guy.

So he's a actually, you know, he's he's from Chicago But you know has a lot of Mexican heritage.

We have Sam Eli who's from Puerto Rico Axel Rico from Puerto Rico I really want to just bring the community together and just bring everybody into I

John Maino

remember doing a live shot for my old radio show from the subway down here Pat's subway Ray

or the mask.

Oh, Ray Mysterio?

Ray Mysterio.

Yep.

Yeah, he was

John Maino

cool.

He's a legend.

I told him, I said, you

John Maino

can take that off.

It's like 90 degrees.

No, I can't take that off.

No, no, no.

I said, it's just us.

There's nobody else.

No.

I know.

Maybe you do the mask thing with it.

John Maino

You know?

Wow.

You change

John Maino

your personality.

You get the mask.

Wow.

Yeah.

John Maino

Yeah.

There's there's

a

couple reasons to

John Maino

do that.

All right.

Hey, you guys are

John Maino

awesome.

Thanks again,

TG, for everything you do for us.

John Maino

Right.

I think HWU, wrestling.

Do we have your website?

Do we say that?

I know we're going to be at Badger State Sunday, June 29.

Facebook will get you anything you need.

Facebook, HWE, hybrid wrestling entertainment.

Kathryn Lake

Awesome.

HWE wrestling?

They're awesome.

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