Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.
And here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim
Schmidt.
Anyway, did you see the weather for this weekend?
93,
93.
No.
Wow,
I did not see that.
Yeah.
That we haven't hit 90s.
I don't know the last time it was 90 in Green Bay, but
it was humid again
yesterday.
Yeah.
But I'm okay with it.
You know, it's so funny.
I can't go out in the sun.
So I feel like that little kid with the broken leg during summer
vacation.
Oh man.
Yeah.
Um, years ago, but my
Daughter broke her arm and yeah, like in June.
It's me, too And that changes the whole family summer.
I just heard my arm on literally the second to last day of school see
that
that's right after
school and It changes.
It's not just her.
Oh, you can't go swimming really as a dad when they're like whatever 9 10 11 the whole family doesn't go swimming It doesn't go to the beach.
It's just like that was a long summer for us.
Oh screwed up a little league for me my little
yeah
Yeah.
Everything bad happens to me early in the summer.
But that's because you're risking more stuff, right?
You're on a, I don't know, would you do it skateboarding?
Would you, how'd you break it?
We
played baseball at school, but we had black top playground.
I slide.
And no, I just, we played, we'd play with, it's almost like stick balls.
I was like, would you use a rubber ball?
Okay.
And you had bounced it to the guy to hit and you'd use your fist as the bat.
Really?
Yeah.
And
economical
yeah, and there was a pop-up and I was going for it So it was Mikko Lejoy and at the last second Mikko like ducked down to get out of my way and I did a boom right over the top I'm completely flip over and as soon as only time my life where somebody has ever said are you okay?
And I said no yeah, and it was just busted
Yeah.
And that's in the old days with the cast, with the cluster.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, the whole thing.
Yep.
The nun came out.
I'll never forget.
And remember, Plain is, I told you this story and she had a big safety pin and she pinned it to my shirt.
And the guy, our GM teacher, who was a total bleep, took me to the hospital and he was a jerk.
Boobsy Marietti.
And we're out there and a guy, hey, Boobsy, did you ever sell that truck?
No, I still got her.
You look at, yeah, no, is that a four wheel drive?
Yeah, but yeah, I gotta turn the lugs, you know, yeah.
It's like that.
As I said, my arms snapped in half.
And then we go into, then we go into the, uh, we go into the waiting room or whatever.
And the nurse goes, you know, I know that's really painful.
There's no shame in crying.
He goes,
If he does, I'll make sure he's a laughing stock in the Ghani State Paul School.
Wow.
I'll give that an uncredited for the safety pin.
Yeah, making it.
That's a good idea.
Nones were resourceful.
They had those little pouches.
No, they had
everything there.
They had a tool set.
They had a socket set.
They had a welder.
They could have been at Let's Make a Deal.
They had a propane torch.
Hard boiled egg.
They had a switch blade.
They did have a lot in that pouch.
Nones in those pouches were unbelievable.
But that's, yeah.
And were they ever cold or hot?
It could be 98 degrees and they'd be in their big, huge, whatever.
It could be 20 below and they have a shawl.
And that would be it.
Where none's the toughest people ever back in those eras.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You just, I don't know.
That's a tough life, right?
Oh my God.
You can't even imagine.
I can't even imagine anything worse than being a nun.
And I think maybe that's maybe they invented some of that.
Frustration
on the kids.
Yeah, maybe
like you and me.
Yeah, the
kids just done.
Yeah, but yeah it
God bless them for doing that.
They worked hard and they didn't just teach, they cleaned.
They
did everything.
They
did everything.
They
did everything.
They did
everything.
I don't think you see people like
that.
I remember another time a kid knocked me down.
Their playground was completely full of ice.
We did the thing where you would shack somebody.
They'd be saying that you're one and you'd hit their foot that way and they'd fall down.
And Joe Durfee did it to me, or Ziffle Durfee, one of the two.
And I go down and cut up my hole right up here.
Nunn comes right out and she pulls out a thing of.
She pulls out a scissors and a big thing of tape.
Where'd that come from?
Yeah, they were unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
So who we got watching?
We got Vicki says it's hump day.
Let's go.
She's Kurt Nick is watching.
He's on his way.
Michael Friedman says good morning gentlemen from Door County.
Michael, why don't you stop bragging?
Yeah, every day.
I'd love to be there guys, but I'm in
Italy.
Yeah, right,
right, right.
Yeah.
What was that other little island outside of us?
Oh, I was in Malta.
Well, the place I was staying was okay.
It was a 12 million dollar friend of
mine friend of
mine.
Jesse is watching Jesse, the pride of Stevenson, Michigan.
Go Eagles, Mike Pritzel, watching and driving probably.
Good morning, everybody.
We got a great lineup for you today.
Cheese, Kurt, Nick is going to come here to give us a review on your gathering last night.
That was fun.
Gathering last night.
Glam Band.
I mean, not Glam Band.
Big mouth.
Yep.
They were great.
I couldn't believe how many people, of course the weather was like, it was perfect.
It wasn't like good.
It was perfect.
It just, you know, no bugs.
It's just warm.
And I bet you they had, the last time they played there, again, that's a neighborhood event.
That's not.
city sponsored or anything that's done by the neighborhood.
A couple hundred people.
There's five, six hundred people.
It was all the way back to basketball.
That was just,
it was huge.
You know, Big Mouth is like the glam band.
I could see we get it mixed up because they have the same.
It doesn't matter where the event is.
It doesn't matter what the event is.
They will draw.
And today they're coming in.
Big Mouth.
And they
got this
dude.
A new
singer.
Oh, is she great?
It was
between her and
me.
They did the right choice.
They decided to go with the
female.
She was great.
And you know, on core and people standing, people, it was just a great night.
The crowd was into it.
I think it's summer's finally here.
School just
got
out.
And I think people were like, okay, this, this is kicking
off my summer.
It
was
great.
It hadn't felt like summer.
No, I agree.
I agree.
It still felt like spring.
Yeah.
And,
but
you
know, they have, of course, the benches here, but you know, so many people just brought their lawn chairs and it was just.
a really good crowd, you know, a little older art, you know, but it was just a great glam band.
I mean, not glam band.
Can I keep saying that?
Big Moth.
Big Moth, what, 20?
You gotta be over 20 years, right?
I
guess.
I don't remember them not being around that way.
I really don't.
I mean, it's just like they've always been here since I've been here.
And people just one song after another.
Yeah, they're just really, really good.
So
they're
awesome.
talk a lot, they play a lot.
They play, they
never phoned it.
Right.
Yeah, they
were
fantastic.
That was, that was a great night last night.
And then tonight, of course, the city band concerts kick off, which is in the same park.
So
that's cool.
Got a text here, uh, Mike from Green Bay heading to Wrigley for the Brewer's Game, whether it does not look good.
Oh, are you?
Oh, look at that this morning.
I thought it was okay.
Oh, that's Chicago, Chicago.
Oh, all right.
Yeah, really, that's a great place to watch a game though, right?
It's a small stadium.
That'd be
fun.
I forget.
So the first time I was ever there and I buy a beer from a vendor and I give him like, you know, it's like $8.
I give him a 10.
He goes, what?
Because that's it.
I go, that's what?
He goes, $2.
I go, is that not enough?
He goes, you're not from Chicago, are you?
I said something.
Wow.
Almost had an altercation.
Oh, man, I would have taken two bucks.
I know, right?
Yeah, I would
have, yeah.
Joe Vertigan is coming in.
Joe is an author.
He writes great books on racing and the Green Bay Reformatory.
But what he's doing, there's a young man from the area who was seriously injured in a racing accident.
And Joe's, we want to talk about that, about really helping out with that.
Ben and Deanna Malkor moving with the Malkors.
want to get them in a lot of little things happening right now in the world of real estate.
Because this is the hot, hot, hot time right now.
And it's interesting what's going on.
Then John Kramer headlines the press times.
Big Rick Pembroke will be here with the new singer debuting the new singer for Big Moth is going to be here in the studio, Kelsey Dainey.
And that's great.
Did she perform last night?
Oh,
yeah, she was, I mean, Rick, they're all awesome.
But she, I'm not saying she stole the show, but she's
a great, great addition.
She is.
She's been in Green Bay, knows a little bit about theater, and she's got a great stage presence.
That was awesome.
She was the whole thing.
Yeah, that was great.
That Melchor thing, that you're right.
It's going to be interesting to see what's all going on.
You see there's a lot more development going on.
I'm wondering
how that's
going to affect our prices and things.
So
yeah.
OK, so I was so angry
last night.
I just put one more thing.
I just
want to say
that John's coming.
And John was there last night, too, taking pictures for the press times.
Oh, he
won't pass up a free meal.
He's he's delved into the media world quickly.
Yeah, yeah, quickly.
It was nice to see him.
Well, as we got here, we got what else we got here?
We got the wrong thing here.
Oh, our page.
Yeah.
But I was so mad last night.
What's
that?
First of all, I couldn't I tried.
OK, are there any WNBA fans out there?
Katelyn Clark fans.
I love Katelyn Clark.
I think she's the greatest thing in the history of sports.
Okay.
Love her.
And she single handedly has taken over an entire league.
Absolutely.
No one, I don't care what they say.
nobody except this small little group of people paid attention to the WNBA.
It wasn't small enough, it wasn't large enough to move the needle the slightest bit.
They were bleeding money like you can't believe.
If the NBA wasn't writing out check after check after check, they would have folded like a cheap tent so long ago, it's mind boggling.
She has resurrected the entire league.
The game last night.
First of all, you couldn't find the game.
I even tried subscribing to Fubo.
Do you know what Fubo is?
No.
Nobody does.
Okay, good.
Nobody knows what Fubo is.
Fubar, but yeah.
Yeah.
That's what this was.
This was Fubar.
So anyway, you know what Fubar means Conroy?
I didn't think so.
He's a kid.
So anyway, so I couldn't get it.
I tried subscribing and then, you know, canceling the day before you actually have to pay.
Yes.
Okay.
Didn't work.
Didn't work.
I don't know how to subscribe to anything.
Yeah, I know.
I was surprised you did that.
Yeah, so what I just kept doing on my phone I went to their website and they would just update the game how it's going and then they show highlights she got Pummelled last night this girl pokes her in the eye acts like it was accidental Then she gets into a bit one of that girl's teammates come up behind her and knock her to the ground They don't kick the girl hot of the game It's and they give Caitlyn Clark a technical foul
For getting knocked down basically.
Okay, so then she finally she has the biggest but I would go insane in the locker room if I were her against my teammates I mean I would throw chairs at their faces or something because they won't defend her finally last night the girl that had poked her in the eye she was going down for a lip and she just clobbered her I loved it.
I love it.
I'm a cougar.
I love it
She really has.
It's
mind
boggling.
She's a great face for
that industry.
She's the face of the organization.
She's saving the entire league.
And the referees are so horrific.
It's mind boggling.
It's like they've all gotten together.
It said, hey, we don't want to rough the feathers of anybody else.
So don't give her anything good.
It's mind boggling.
And it's great that somebody becomes that popular.
It's such a good person, too.
You know, they're lucky they got because there's other people
that could have.
You know, I said, you know, I said a press conference the other day, too.
Get this.
No, why she's so nice.
Iowa, half Italian.
Whatever
she is.
She didn't look to be white.
Yeah, she's half Italian.
Really?
Isn't that something?
Yeah,
I just I'm with you on her.
I don't fall back.
I've never seen anything like it.
And their coach finally went off last night on the refs on what's happening here.
It's on.
Unbelievable.
Incredible.
If she'd pull out.
I wish she would pull out.
I wish she would pull out.
She did.
Go to Europe play for a year.
Right.
Do whatever.
Watch that league fold and beg her to come back.
Oh my God.
It's mind boggling.
Terry says the game on NBA TV.
I have it on Direct TV.
Well, I don't have the money to subscribe to that, Terry.
OK, Terry.
I don't have the money to subscribe to that.
Terry, what did you think of it?
You've been a coach all your life.
Yeah.
You've been an official.
What did you think of that performance by those officials last night?
Please let me know.
Yeah.
So wait, I think you can get direct though.
You can bundle that, I think.
Yeah, I know how to bundle.
And neither I just.
Yeah,
I think we have that.
It's
a whole new world
out there.
I don't understand
anything.
So I still have a landline.
I'm one of those, you know, like I said, but there's some good deals like it's almost free if you buy certain bundles.
I don't know.
I
need to hire somebody like Conroy.
Just get your kid over to your house and that's it.
Greta does a lot of stuff for me.
I'm like, but dad,
you gotta do this.
Do me a favor.
Call Dom, ask him to come over on my house and fix my cable.
Would you make that call?
I want to listen.
We gotta set a quick break.
Back after this.
Wednesday morning in middle of June, 97.9 of MWGBW 98.3, 96.5 of MWSS.
And of course, the Civic Media app, and you can text us, the Civic Media app, as many of the folks are doing this morning.
Sarah's out there.
Did Sarah come to your thing last night?
No, no, she did not.
Wow.
I know I invited her.
She was going to kind of crash it.
And she was involved.
She didn't crash it.
She was invited.
But Terry was invited.
Didn't show up.
It's OK.
That's right, man.
Wow.
It's all right.
They're still friends.
You remember that.
He will remember that, people.
That's the problem with politicians.
We do remember who.
Yeah.
It's kind of like it's not a good quality to have, but.
You can't remember the people who didn't.
I remember first
did not come to my dad's funeral
in
1987.
Isn't that
awful?
Isn't that unbelievable?
It is, but it's
stuck.
In 1987, I remember who didn't come into my dad's funeral.
I know.
Yeah.
And I always held it against him a little
bit.
Didn't you?
Yeah.
That's not a, you really want to get past that, but no, I'm one of the people.
I don't get past anything.
I know.
So Terry, it just,
oh, actually Sarah says she's going to volunteer tonight, so she'll come over
for leftovers.
She's coming over.
Okay.
That's great that that'd be great to see her.
Yes.
That's right.
She told me she's maybe she didn't say she was coming last night, Johnny.
She did say she was coming tonight because the city band concert starts tonight at seven.
Sarah, do you ever
not work?
I've never
known that
works
more than her.
Nick, come on
in.
Hello, Nick.
I know she worked for Nick a few times or whatever.
Nick never wanted me to work for him.
I did it one time.
It's a race
of money.
And then that was
it.
Nick works pretty hard.
Although
I will say this, the one night I did it for a farmers market.
Oh, yeah.
It had to be 96 degrees and that he was coming off the pavement to the point where it's like Right Nick yeah by that grill some days when it's down here on the pavement.
Oh,
yeah That's
I you should put a thermometer there.
You had to be 105 those
things that they have in the back like on a field.
Yeah, you know round one.
Yeah,
yeah I
was doing this morning.
Good.
Good.
Are you
all recovered
Jim?
Yes, I did
Took a little while to clean up, but it was, yeah, it was fun.
I mean, thanks for coming.
That was- Thanks for
the
invite.
I mean,
it really- He gave you rave review?
He told me that.
I
showed
him.
He
did.
He said, hey, look, I'm putting this on.
I'm like, no, don't do that.
And then he read it.
I'm like, oh, yeah, go ahead.
Put it on.
Because, you know, he's, this guy's an entrepreneur cook hot dogs, cheese curds, and I was like- That's
what I mean,
that kind of stuff,
critic.
I know.
And I was expecting that.
It's like some of
that almost a pizza joint coming over for a homemade pizza.
Right.
And he came over early too when I was cooking.
I thought, oh, Nick, you're early.
But he took.
There was people there before I was there.
I don't.
Yeah, you just.
Yeah, it was.
I'm glad you were there.
That was fun.
And is that your wife?
Yes.
No,
no, it.
Yes, it's my wife.
It's what Donna said.
That's what I thought.
And she says, are they my husband?
Yeah, they are.
Hey, hey, you, you of all people cannot criticize somebody for showing up to a party early.
Why?
You and I showed up to party and the people are still coming home from the grocery store.
That's right.
They've come in.
They're bringing the groceries.
We are there.
Yeah, it's true.
We never met them before.
No, didn't know who they were.
They're driving.
We're in a driveway and they're like, oh, hi.
It's like, hey, do we have the right place?
There's no, we're looking in the window.
Somebody invited to their cottage.
We know how far it was.
Yeah.
I don't see any men.
They're car pulls up.
Oh, more people are coming.
And it was a lady with bags of groceries to start putting to the party.
I was going to roll in her.
around five to see if you need any help.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's, it was
fine.
But yeah, that band was awesome.
I mean,
mouth
is great.
And then those guys came over after, cause you know, entertainers,
they never, they never eat
before.
So that was, that was fun.
But you know, they're encroaching on my bed tonight.
Guys, we're
thinking of you to work.
Oh,
we
better get going.
That'd be a good idea.
So,
you know what?
So did you see the post, John?
that I mean, yeah, yeah.
So I wanted, so when I said I was skeptical, I was, I just thought there was going to be like ketchup mustard, pickles, maybe some cheese, a bag of ruffles, potato chips.
That's what I thought that was going to be there.
And then I called Jim on, uh, I did, I call them on Monday and I said, Hey, do it.
Do I need to bring anything or no, he's like, no, no, no, no.
He said, well, I was thinking about bringing some chili.
He's like, no, I'm making chili.
I'm like, Oh, okay.
And I make for the hot dogs and now
you're, you're offending him.
If you offer to bring something, I've noticed that.
Yeah.
Well, I didn't know, you know, again, I was skeptical, but I went in there and I'm like, and I even looked at the stove, you know, cause he had everything.
He had them in crack pots and he had the fried onions on the stove, staying warm and stuff like that.
And I'm like, right.
Jim went all out fried onions.
Yeah, I'll put that cheese though.
Yeah, that she that queso cheese.
Yeah,
I mean that John I got I brought some for you, but that Yeah,
yeah, you should have come it's a different way.
No that you put on your hot dog.
It's like queso cheese.
Oh, like hot cheese.
Liquid
cheese.
It's got this sour cream, there's a little mustard in there.
Okay.
It was good concoction.
Nice.
Concoction.
That's nice.
Anyway, anyway, and then let's find a cow.
But that was not a drinking crowd.
I had your vodka out there.
Oh, you know, I had that little orange culture wasn't coming.
You still put out the vodka.
Yeah.
But that little
orange
stuff.
I
take it like I did from your Christmas
party.
So
he took the bottle.
Is that wrong?
What?
Okay.
So he doesn't drink vodka.
He says he doesn't drink.
Yeah.
He bought
it.
He first Christmas party.
He bought a bottle of Tito's for me.
Okay.
Nobody drank it.
So
I took it.
Did
you
drink did you drink some of it before you
took no, I
didn't know he had bought it for me
Well, I bought it for the party and knew knowing you were coming I'm not saying if I were bought for you how to put your name on it So I bought it, but I didn't really I thought you did I bought it
typically bought it just for me because I like Tito's
no and
then nobody drank it because it was for me So I didn't want to be what's the term when somebody offers you a gift horse in the mouth?
I usually call people, like Even said to Nick, what do you drink?
He goes, I don't drink it.
But I had, that was not a drinking crowd.
It was just wine
and beer.
Yeah, wine and beer.
Well, a couple
of people drank some bourbon, but there was, I had a lot, you guys, because I would put that stuff back and I was like, wow, these people don't drink very much, which is whatever.
It's fine.
I just want to make it available.
By the way, we were talking about the weather last night.
It was perfect, right?
It was, see, the sun was, you know, there's a lot of shade at St.
John's.
Even at your house, there's a lot of shade there.
You know what I mean?
So the Sun or St.
James.
I'm sorry Yeah, if the Sun was cooking on that Oh, yeah, it might have been a little warmer.
Oh, you're facing the people are facing the East side, right?
Yes.
Yeah, yes But even with the trees there, there's there's a lot of shade, you know, you It was I was fishing yesterday and it was at noon.
It was kind of hot on the water.
I believe that
but you
know Big Muff has Paul that
Sound guy, and he is really, uh...
Is that what says?
Is that a cue to wrap it up there?
Connery,
Connery.
Todd's not here.
Conn, what's this?
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Conn, Conn, Conn, Conn,
Conn, Conn, Conn, Conn, Conn, Conn, Conn, Conn, Conn, Conn
And of course the civic media app partly cloudy with scattered storms high in the low 70s 66 and green Bay 69 and out in 69 in Oshkosh national go fishing day Nick you got to take some time to go fishing And it's followed by sushi day
kind of makes sense.
Yeah, I like sushi.
Yeah, do you fish every day, right?
Not every day, but
How
many days a year?
We were talking about you last night after you left and she was, that guy's like, I want to judge your book by its cover.
I mean, you're like really smart.
You got your whole business plan on your phone.
I think that's cool how you can show your gross margin and that.
I'm like, this guy really knows what he's doing.
But is that all he does?
I said he fishes all the time.
I said he fishes every day, but you don't, it's close though,
right?
If you average it out like in the summertime, three times a week during the summertime and then, you know, essentially ice fishing almost every day.
Yeah.
I
remember
you being in here talking about,
that's
a lot.
Yeah,
well, see now I told you like the spring, so I got my captain's license.
So now I'm guiding, you know, I've taken clients out here a handful of times and that's going, that's slow and steady that, you know, I don't want to plow a whole bunch of money into it.
Yeah.
Because I don't want to, I'm not using the guiding, the guide service as a,
Primary income, you know what I mean,
you know, it was called out next we had some groups in here yesterday man say that veterans, you know, I I'm not crazy Veterans fishing University VF you
School they had up for the U of P that had a closing Finlandia University and you'd buy their t-shirts that just say So I don't know I would work on that a little bit maybe marking this guy's out of
Keewanee.
He's out of Keewanee
Charter Fisher and
him and his son they run this thing and you know, they obviously you know, they're private
Company and but they do a lot of veterans fishing.
Oh, yeah, yeah,
which is just awesome
There's not just that though what they do is even because as this is something everybody thinks all ice fishing you dig a hole and you sit there Well, there's a lot more to it if you want to catch fish anybody can dig a hole But if you want to catch fish there's more to it and that's one of their Lessons is really getting people involved in ice fishing.
I think that's really cool.
It's
your
wrong.
It is
what they do.
That's not
This season,
it's ice fishing.
It's a fly fishing and it's charter fishing.
Yeah.
It teaches it's a whole year course or whatever.
That's
cool.
It's awesome what what him as kid are doing.
You'd be a great instructor with the ice fishing.
All of them.
Yeah.
All of them.
Well,
besides fly fishing, I could.
Yeah.
That's something I never got into.
That whole way too much work.
That's an art way too much work.
And you know, that's good when you see these TV shows like Kirk Gaudy, the American sportsman.
I'm here with.
Oakland Raiders quarterback Darrell Lamontica and we're fishing the Snake River in Wyoming.
Yeah, okay, and it's wide open and you go up to the UP around here the trout streams.
There's brush all over there's tag elders and there's
it just it looks like when they're doing that What's that called the back and forth like they're getting tangled
up.
That's what I mean I'm from you would I couldn't
know but anyway,
I'm perfect at flipping a worm a nightcrawler and let it float.
Yeah, so you're
Do you sell your fish then or do you know you
cannot sell your fish?
That's where I'm surprised at at Northman hotel that day.
I had venison chili I didn't know you could have wild game in you
can have wild wild game It's got to be processed through like a game farm or something like that.
Okay.
Oh I don't know the exact lingo on that but it basically has to go through like it has to be processed through somebody handling the process
You know what I mean?
Well, you know, there's, okay, so I did that event during the Packard Draft for the Vinisee family.
They're trying to get Jack Vinisee into the Hall of Fame.
And his brother, who's been a long time prominent veterinarian in the area, but also raises, I want to say it's like New Zealand stags, like a real high quality.
It's a type of, almost like between a deer and an elk
kind
of.
And the meat's supposed to be fantastic.
Yeah, because you can go to the store and you can buy...
There's a couple places like you can buy elk you can buy bison.
I know like primal eats
Primal eats offers venison.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're
gonna get them on.
Yeah, those that's
good There's there's a handle
of places.
Yeah,
but it's it's not like you can go grocery store and get hey I want some venison backstraps, you know, butcher or whatever.
It's that doesn't happen
Why can't you you don't have a license to sell because it's really good up and start in shonnell now, right?
Did I hear that right and where shonnell?
What do you mean shonnell like catching?
Yeah Well perch has been firing in the Bay of Green Bay.
Maybe in shonnell.
I'm not sure.
Oh
I haven't had, I don't have any problems in Bay right now, but-
Okay, but if you, why can't you buy it
and then like sell it to a- Well, because it's a process, the processing it, I'm not a certified-
Well, one of the things that DNR guy told me one time, cause they belong to the state.
Well,
I mean, that was, you know what I mean?
That's somewhat true, but- That sounds like- I know, that's what I'm saying.
But I don't,
basically, there's no paper, you know, like if you're like, say Blue Harbor up the road here, right?
Or LaFonts, or whatever.
They're they're a place that they're refrigerated.
They're this they're that everything's
they have all that inspection and all right, right, right is that place in Kiwani remembered for my They have their they go out and they catch a fish and that's where that's probably
that that
That is good.
See all those places
have their processing there
are like processing all
right facility So that's why
does any do you smoke your own fish?
No, does anybody out there smoke fish?
Can you get me a salmon?
Catch me a salmon.
Actually, I'm going charter fishing with a friend of mine on Sunday.
Take
it
to that
place in Kiwani, John.
Well, I don't think you can bring your own.
He's a pretty good guy.
I
know some people, I won't have it for you on Sunday, but I can get you some smoked salmon.
I would love a natural smoked salmon.
That is one of my favorite things in the world.
Did you ever make a dip on it?
Crackers and everything,
too.
God, I love that.
Actually, you know what we used to do?
This sounds bad.
Well, I don't think it was illegal, though.
When we were kids, we used to go to this little creek, Partridge Creek.
It was right by where that guy was murdered, I told you about.
So we'd go to Partridge Creek and we would make spears.
This sounds crazy.
You're getting illegal right there.
Well, not really, though.
I don't think you can spear.
Yeah, you could.
Back then.
We would make spears out of old ski poles.
We'd bring it to the gas station.
And we'd use their grinder, their big old wheel grinder, remember those?
And we'd sharpen those to a needle point
edge.
That's a good idea.
And thank you.
I mean, the length is
good.
Yes.
And it had a little strap on it.
Yeah.
And you'd be in the little street, these little creeks where they'd come up to spawn.
And you'd just stand there.
And just like, we didn't have hip boots.
We just had swampers, as we called them, the kind of boots we had.
And wait for them to kind of come.
And you would spear them.
and we'd give him to a guy to smoke and he would smoke the suckers.
Now you would never think of eating a sucker.
But a smoked sucker tastes delicious.
A lot of
bones though in those suckers, aren't there?
Not as bad as northerns.
Really?
I don't think, do you think Nick?
Northerns got those white bones.
A buddy of mine pickles those though.
You'd never think to eat another.
My buddy, Kaz, pickles those.
They're unbelievable.
When you get them in the winter, ice fishing, it's a real firm white
meat.
I didn't know that.
Kids whatever 60 elbows could spear.
I didn't
I were 12.
I Thought that was set that was I thought spearing was a set
I
think
you can't spear You know everything
like can't spear a walleye, you know like a you know, I mean
I got it.
All
right.
I was like you can go I got a spear carp and suckers, but you can't spear
Right off the bottom, right?
Yeah,
but
you
But
you don't want,
you know,
they want them to be smaller, you know,
okay?
I never have
no Because carp was
no car
when I live right east when we're ever I mean that's that's all was was carpet.
We used to catch him But we just but back
in the day like in the 70s and the 80s
not
even before the 70s Like over by 170, you know, we're 172 if you're going north on 41.
Yeah
172 that used to be a drainage off of the Fox River and the suckers would come up in there to spawn and everybody like all my older friends Would say oh, yeah when I was a kid we go in there and we'd spear 100 150 suckers
I heard
Pamper Park
was another place
Pamper Park used to have a perch run too.
Did they really?
Oh, yeah, cuz duck crook fit into that.
Oh,
Spearing would be fun though.
Well, honestly, it was like an art, you know, I mean,
yeah, wow
I remember one time though.
I went fishing with this guy's kind of a guide and
Because when we when we were trout fishing if you kind of sucker you threw him in the swan you threw him in the woods you did throw him back and I Mean he's like well, I'll tell you why cuz I did you know I was gonna throw in the way he goes.
Um, what are you doing?
Sorry, what?
No, I catch you release everything.
I go even suckers even suckers.
Oh
Okay.
So, okay.
So, he was the stream of it.
I cut another one and I go and I'm taking them off the hook and it falls off the hook.
I was getting them off because I got those rubbery lips like that.
He's going down and just as I turn, just as he turned to say something to me, I punted it into the woods.
I mean that sounds bad, and Peter can come after me.
But he was going back in the water, and he wanted to go back in the water, and I already punted it into the woods.
We did not have the good rest of the day.
Dick, though, with your business, right?
You sell the fish.
That's legal.
You can catch it.
No, I
cannot sell.
No,
no.
So like, here's the thing.
Pay
attention.
Let's start over.
I don't get the license thing, though.
You can help people catch fish.
Yes.
But nobody is allowed to sell fish.
unless you're a charter, unless you're commercial.
Yes, yes.
So
like Tom, Tom Driswicky, yeah, he is a commercial fisherman.
All right.
So in the summertime, he goes out to net, and then he sells it to the fish houses.
All right.
Okay,
I got it.
I just I was curious as to why
It's so many fishes three days a week.
I would think you would probably could only eat X and eat probably what I'm
selling.
I give away stuff, I trade, I barter.
What are the laws, and I don't know anybody that's ever been busted on this, on how many frozen fish you're locking?
Two day
possession limit per person in your household.
Okay.
Now, I heard that you can't even take walleye back from Canada these days.
Is that true?
No, you can.
Oh, you can.
Okay.
But that's only a one day limit too, right?
Well, yeah.
See, each state has their own thing.
So here's the thing.
The Bay of Green Bay is 15 perch a day.
Okay.
That's why you have to label everything in your freezer.
15 perch a day in the bay.
Most inland lakes are 25.
There's a different slot on 100 lakes in Wisconsin.
It's called a 2510 rule.
So the 10, 2510 means you can keep 25 pan fish, but 10 of any species and then the last five, the last five of the 25 was five.
So like if you're fishing a lake that has perch, bluegills and crappies, you're allowed 10, 10 and five of whatever variation, okay?
Okay, who's...
Do they bond?
I mean, come
on.
Really?
Do they have like a search warrant?
No, well,
if they, if they suspect you, I've, I've already had the DNR at my house.
Wow.
I
have.
Um, I've had the DNR at my house, but so here's the thing when you talk about Canada, you know, like holiday, whatever.
So when you go to, when you go to devil's legs, South Dakota, you go to Michigan or Minnesota, you're allowed to get maloxin or something.
Yeah.
Malox.
Yeah.
But, uh, like I, I ice fish in, um,
Winnipegosh and Castley.
So you're only allowed 20 fish per day coming back.
So total of 40 perch.
Okay.
So you got to follow the laws of the state of whatever state you're coming in because some of those states only let you bring across so much fish.
So it doesn't matter how much the state you had been in, their rules are, it all depends what you're bringing in.
Right.
Wherever, yeah.
So each state is different.
Okay.
What's
Wisconsin?
15?
And plus five?
No, no, no, no.
It's well, it depends where you fish.
Again, the Bay of Green Bay is 15, Shanno's 25, you
know.
Okay.
Let's just say, Nick, you go get your commercial license.
Then there's no limit, right?
Well, yeah, but you're selling those to a fish house.
Now you can't sell it to Merrick's.
You got to sell it to that.
Correct.
Okay.
Correct.
Interesting business.
That's what I mean.
There's a lot more to it.
And there's quotas too.
So like if quotas are hit, if the DNR sets quotas, so if quotas are hit, then you're done for the year.
Yeah, they'll shut it
down.
Yeah, they, right, right.
I will say this, whatever they did, they made a big comeback.
Cause when I first gave you that, you could catch a hundred perch a day and then it went quiet.
Well, because it was,
because it was a hundred perch a
day.
Exactly.
So a quick break back with more after this.
Smell
breakfast.
That was really good.
I told you I wasn't lying.
Oh, yeah, that was I was impressed five Five stars early.
Yes early.
No, I didn't have the bright had the hot
dog.
Oh, yeah, the hot dog.
Just cut it in half.
Yeah, they were
but that I'll tell you what It's I gave you a nut crap, but you have the gas grill, but it tasted smoky a little bit of a smoky flavor
Yeah, but
it was good.
Yeah, I guess you just think you had that fresh last night.
Yeah, you should have come.
Yeah, I
like the the chili stuff on top.
Yeah, that's really good.
Everything.
Yeah.
Yeah,
you can have this work.
You can stuff the solar code.
No, that's the only time I
eat.
I'm not a sort of guy.
I'm really not the only time I have solar code is for St.
Patrick's Day.
Oh, really?
Yeah, for beef and cabbage.
It's really good for you.
It's
like really good for you.
It's so close.
Well, it's
so close and pork and you know Do you know put sauerkraut and like pork hocks or pork?
No, that's a big thing at our house,
huh?
Hey, you want to
lose some weight John?
Wow, but sauerkraut when you read about it, it's like
I know it's it's must be salty, right?
But
I mean you read about it like fermented cabbage.
It's fantastic for cabbage soup.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's so many.
Yeah, let's it's just and I'm not a good cook, but it is fun to cook.
There are so many things online and there's things that you can sell and recipes from like my my mom is Polish.
I was
telling
earlier my dad's German, but just some of their old recipes are really
I gave my mom some, I made my mom some, this was a glass, it's a Polish soup, and you know, they didn't have, Poles didn't have any money, so it's like.
Make it, make whatever you got.
It's like potatoes, and vinegar, and pork hocks.
And she said it reminds me of when I was a little kid, I mean,
because
those recipes don't change, right?
Well, all right, as long as you have somebody doing it, you know, like my grandparents.
It takes all
day, you're right.
Like
my grandparents are Serbian.
So yeah, it's hard to get, you know, Serbian food anymore.
There's no Serbian restaurants up here.
There's a Serbian food truck in Sheboygan.
You know, the closest you have to go is Milwaukee.
Like what would be a Serbian mainstay?
Like,
well, the most popular
should be
hogs, right?
Pork, for a lot of other stuff.
Yeah.
Again, they just, it's just not a lot of money to pull.
No, that's what I mean.
It's just pork pots and
vinegars and potatoes.
Serbs did a lot of like when you did picnics or cookouts or stuff like that They would do like pig lamb or chickens on a spit.
Oh, okay.
That's no lamb I'll tell you what
lamb is That's the only thing Jim's ever made and brought in that I didn't
like
the only thing I'll
tell you what
I could But I don't even like euros.
I just don't like the taste of lamb.
I don't know what it
is
We'll see what's, Hey, so there's a, there's an event in Milwaukee.
It's gone on forever.
It's called Serbian days.
It's an August.
Okay.
The
Italian days and the Polish
days.
Except this is at Serb Hall and more.
All right.
This is an unliked short.
Okay.
No, this is, this is at Serb Hall.
It's the oldest act of Serbian.
It's a bowling alley.
There's a monastery there.
There's a great, there's everything.
There's a whole big complex.
We'll see.
If our schedules line up, let's go down there and then you can experience all of it.
Cause like you said, there's, we just don't have that here, right?
I
mean, we're, at those festivals and I still, with light park, once light park, it's done, you know, they have a lot of work to do
in
the bathrooms and the bench, but.
Those ethnic festivals
are
so much fun because it's not just the food, but it's the music and it's the dress and right man to do those for two or three days You know, I mean nobody does it better in Milwaukee, but boy you get and we have a great mix of people here, right?
I mean,
you
know, we definitely do the I've seen the Italians the Germans the French and that would be fun to do that Polish and they get all that red and it's just in great Polish food and Those and that brings people together.
It's not just to honor that
that culture, it's everybody comes because they want to experience the music.
Was there a big served population in Wisconsin?
Milwaukee, yes.
Milwaukee and Chicago, yep.
So my grandparents came over to Ellis Island after World War II.
They actually met in a concentration camp.
Wow.
Yeah.
Your parents are grandparents.
My grandparents.
So anyway, they sat at Ellis Island until they got their papers.
Because after World War II, they had all the refugees coming, but they didn't
you know, they had to wait there for their papers.
And then from there, then they just, they sent them to different cities with their papers and they got them a job right away.
They had a job when they left Ellis Island.
So my grandfather worked at Ellis Chalmers.
When he left New York, he had a job at Ellis Chalmers as soon as they got to Milwaukee.
Wow.
And then my grandmother worked for a leather belt, many of belts and stuff like that.
You know, you're talking about the Serbian club or whatever you call it there.
The Serb Hall.
But those nationalities, they had to do their own thing.
They did.
To kind of
protect themselves and take care of each
other.
That's why the churches are all French, German, you know.
So if you look at the Serbians, I don't want to stereotype, but I want to kind of like, you know, like they'll look at some of the,
the Germans may have been a little bit more, you know, industrial and like, Italians settled in a certain area, had certain things.
They worked in the mines.
That's all the Italians did.
Very seriously.
I'm just curious, I don't know a lot about your ancestry.
Like what turbines and you say they're strong and Milwaukee?
Well, there's all ethnic, you know, there's, there's Latinos, you know, you know, there's Italians, Polox, you know, everything down there.
Yeah, but there's, there's, there was like many colonies of, of Serbs everywhere, even down in like Texas.
So like when, when my uncle moved away to Texas, there's like a huge Serbian community down in Texas.
You know, there's a big Croatian population
up in the
UP.
There was,
they all came over to work in the copper mines.
Yeah, it is.
That's what it was.
It was just like
jobs, right?
Well, it was all it was manually.
It was that's what they did.
It was
they
went
after one or two.
This is hard to believe, but a lot of Bohemians from the Czech Republic moved to Texas and they started up some big beer companies in Texas.
Yeah, the Bohemians
did.
They brought
Wilson beer and Bohemian beer to the Texas.
See,
yeah, she never know.
I
like
that stuff.
Oh, man.
Nick Slavki, cheese curd, Nick, where are you going to be, buddy?
Uh, hopefully tonight at Wednesday farmers market.
Yeah.
Uh, Friday, Howard commons, glam band, Saturday, Howard commons.
I believe daddy D production.
I'll
tell you what, you're hanging out with some cool people.
You are.
That they're getting it going over there.
Yup.
Yeah.
It's coming along
phenomenal.
Thanks for being here.
We got Joe Verde again.
Come up, talking about tremendous event.
He's being a part of back up this.
Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.
And here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim
Schmidt.
Chris Vincent who was here yesterday, and he's watching and listening and we were talking about your project there Vinnie What a great great thing if you need another instructor for ice fishing or perch fishing or pretty much anything Our man cheese curd Nick there would be your guy.
He'd love to do it too.
It just has a great passion to help people and just like The best
a great bro is great having you guys in here in the studio yesterday and
We got Joe Verudigan here.
Joe is a longtime friend of mine.
We always tell the story.
Joe was my favorite intern I ever had.
Yeah.
All we got to say, China Beach and Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Oh, I could tell you stories.
They're pretty good.
Joe, you're a great storyteller, too.
Oh, yeah.
The other guy, one of my other interns.
I've had some really great interns.
Sheepalbine is probably your most famous one, right?
Well, I don't know, because the guy that is editor of the Alpton Post Crest, it was an intern of mine.
Who's that?
I can't think of his name right now.
He was my intern.
He's an editor of the Postcrescent.
Right.
And the Postal Croissant, as we used to
like to refer to
in radio.
Yeah.
But yeah, Mark, she's buying and worked in the NFL for the Packers for a lot of years.
He also still tells a story.
I had to do a charity thing in Oshkosh.
He was going to UW Oshkosh.
He said, Mr. Milo, can I buy you breakfast?
My dad said, I should buy a country kitchen.
Yeah, sure.
OK, no problem.
So he's got notes and all the things.
And then I also do the women's basketball and softball.
And he goes, sir, Mr. Minow, this is another thing my dad said.
I went, do you have any questions for me?
And he goes, he tells sir.
He goes, yeah, Minow goes, yeah, I do.
Oh, sure, sir.
Anything goes, you can eat that toast.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Fun days, Joe.
But you etched out a phenomenal career, worked at the Green Bay Correctional Facility for a lot of years, wrote a great book on that, which has been.
Crazy popular.
Yeah, but your passion and you and I work the booths together auto racing Yes, and you will have that rare breed of talent and it almost be like you know with the Kentucky derby I was said I want to be a derby guy But you do such a great job and you really need to know that sport in racing because there is so I remember Ted and I we first started We can do anything and then you got a race going on and you got 14 cars each one doing something different and it's like oh
and they want to
hear something about everyone and
you've got to be
and you've got you're the only voice
So
it's been a great ride.
And, you know, this is actually my 43rd year announcing, I'm kind of pairing back.
There was a time in 99, 2000, I would announce four nights a week.
I did, I did 80 shows one year with, with specials.
I did Thursday nights was WIR.
I think that year, Fridays, I was doing Chilton.
Saturdays was 141.
And then Sundays was Seymour and I was working full time at the, at the prison.
When I did that, I worked in the kitchen.
I'd be so tired.
I'd go sit in the dairy cooler with a cup of coffee and just kind of
going to catch an app every now
and then.
OK, well, OK.
How many
hours sleep did you get last night?
Last night.
So I announced a race in Eagle River Speedway and driveway to driveway for me.
It's like an hour and 25.
My head hit the pillow around 1 a.m.
And then we got up around you know 445 to get up So maybe three three and a half hours of sleep drove down here and with my buddy Dave
Word you live these days
done Dunbar, Wisconsin So I'm still in Green Bay like almost maybe once a week for running errands or some kind of business or you know You know book interviews for the next book or whatever whatever the case is I know
we're gonna talk about racing and I just love what you're doing But I can't I gotta go back to the prison because I interviewed you oh sure times on that
What do you think?
I mean, we talked, and you're super honest about what you think about it, but it seems like it's catching some momentum, doesn't it?
I'm not buying the BS.
And I'm going to tell you, Jim, the politicians on both sides of the aisle, just my two cents worth.
I don't think we'll ever see that thing close.
Not in my lifetime.
It's a political football.
Maybe it won't.
If it does close, I could make it right up a second version of my book.
I don't know, but it's just, you know, put it this way.
When I started there in 93, they were already talking about closing it.
So, okay.
I'm just curious because it's in the news a lot, right?
It is going through.
You read about it pretty much every week.
It's something, but I was just curious.
We can get back to the racing, but you just, you worked there for how many years?
30?
Two months shy at 27 years.
Okay.
And you know, you just.
not only know the operations, you kind of know the politics of it.
That's why I really found it so interesting.
A little bit.
And again, what the media is not telling you is they spent so much money upgrading the plumbing in both the cell halls.
That thing's more modern than you may realize.
Right.
Looking at the outside.
Just because something's a hundred years old doesn't mean it's obsolete because we, Johnny and I like history.
We've been to the Northern Hotel and we, but.
they put a ton of money, right?
Probably $40 million just to that hotel.
And I don't know what you got into that prison.
The biggest problem I see with the prison, you got a bunch of bureaucrats from Madison on both sides of the aisle that never stepped foot in a prison making all the decisions on policy.
And it's not good for the DOC.
I just got to ask, because I told these guys, I don't believe that I used to play fast-pitched softball in the Marquette State prison.
Oh, sure.
And you would have a guard behind you with a, you know, semi-automatic and everything, a lock-in or thing if you didn't.
You guys face that every single day.
What's that like going to work every day?
Bye, honey.
I'm going into the prison.
Well, you know,
you almost become maybe immune to it.
We always use the term relaxed but alert.
You learn to grow eyes in the back of your head real quickly.
And we always used to joke.
There's some of the meanest, nastiest SOBs you'll ever find.
And then there's the inmates.
That was always the thing.
Yeah, management was always kind of crawling on your back.
But
whatever.
Defendants are the right word.
You thought some of these guys were okay, but as you said to me, nobody's in there for missing church.
They're not in there
for missing Sunday school.
And I know there's a lot of protests that are going
on,
you know, on behalf of the inmates and that kind of thing.
I get all that.
But there could be some reforms in some spot.
Biggest thing nowadays is like, we weren't trained, I retired in 2020, a lot of us weren't trained to deal with the mental health part of it is very real now.
And most of these young kids coming in, they're all on all kinds of psychotropic meds.
And it's a tough job enough as it is.
Even at 36 bucks,
an hour.
I still have friends working there.
They're still short staff.
So it's a tough gig no matter how you slice it and what the future holds.
I don't know.
I'm not as optimistic about them closing it down as maybe the media and the politicians are just my two cents worth.
I've been wrong before.
But you keep your pulse on it.
Well, I do.
I think it's interesting about you.
I mean, that's why had you come in here.
Jim Raffer come in, who's a big, you know, just a good guy.
He was a great guy.
Yes.
You know, it's going to close tomorrow and you're like, I'm going to happen.
No, not like I said, I respectfully disagree on that.
But yeah, maybe it will.
I don't know.
But I just I have a hard
time living a good texture.
I miss the old days of the Brown County fairgrounds racing.
Earl Ness, Bobby Marcus, Ted Peters, Bob White, great times that I was a kid.
Oh, Earl Ness.
Actually, the first book I wrote, he was the first interview and he grew up.
up on the west side like me and just a classy guy, he ended up being a flag man too after he retired from racing.
So who sent that text?
I probably know who
it is.
Terry from Ashwabana.
Oh, very
cool.
Joe, Brown County doesn't do racing.
Is that something you think should come back?
That's a popular sport,
isn't it?
Yeah, I think it was the neighbors.
Shut that down.
Didn't think so.
Here's what happened.
Which ironically here in downtown Green Bay, the noise is 10 times as bad at night.
Didn't shut this
down.
But the thing is, the noise, it wasn't the people that lived initially around there.
It was, when the wind was right, it was the folks at Allway, I hate to say it.
And I think a lot of the racing community blames Nancy Nussbaum at that time.
She was the big one.
The spearheaded the move to stop the racing.
It was not just
her.
Was that dirt track?
Yeah, it was dirt track.
you ever held there, July 8th, 1979.
And there was a lot of issues in 79.
They had bad weather.
Remember, there was a gas shortage then, so gas prices went through the rough.
The cost of racing went up.
It was just a lot of factors that led to it.
Perfect storm
to put
down.
I don't think you'll ever see racing again on Depeur.
And the reason being, there's so many tracks that are active now, the market actually is almost too saturated now as it
is.
I was gonna ask that.
I mean, you were mentioning Chilton, Seymour, 141, all these little towns, are they still surviving or threatened?
We loved 141 Speedway.
When we'd come down to those dirt track races, I really enjoyed that.
So the problem in racing right now is we have a very aging demographic.
I hate to say it, but our hardcore fan base is literally dying off in that younger
generation.
NASCAR's facing that same thing.
Well, it's a mirror of NASCAR kind of.
And it's back, so the back gate's healthy.
When I say back gate, the participants, there's a lot of racers, a lot of, there's enough cars.
My concern looking down the road five or 10 years from now is the fans, you know what I mean?
Successful racing.
racetracks locally will do a better job of getting just the average family out there to catch a race, because that hardcore race fan demographic, it's literally dying off.
You know,
that's not the only industry that's, and even look, look what they do over at baseball now with all those, it's, you go there for the game, and
even
that guy who was on for that football thing, indoor football, it's more, you go to the game, which is, I don't know, half the entertainment, they just do so many other things for,
Giveaways or a contest or concerts, you know, they're bringing up come expect
that
They want to
be entertained
they
do they have short attention spans
and see the game or see the track or see Yeah,
you cannot drag a show on forever all night and it's it's that's society nowadays But that's my concern with racing locally.
They're always gonna be racers.
It's the hardcore fan base
that you know, that was one of the things though too that we fought with Joe and you were part of this in regards to we wanted to get WIR and run their you know, you're we want to televised and
and do their feature and do the whole thing.
And well, they didn't want that because they thought that would keep people at home instead of coming out to watch.
And I argue the opposite.
The opposite, because you're exposing it to more people that aren't getting off the couch and coming to the race.
And maybe that would inspire them to come to a great event.
True.
Yeah.
Yes.
Here's another thing that's happened.
There's a lot of these online streaming services that almost every track has them now.
So, you know, people pay a subscription to watch it online.
They'll hire a couple of young camera operators, you know, for whatever they pay them.
And people are just sitting on their couch now and watching races.
That's fine.
And the tracks get a cut of that.
But I don't know if it's enough, you know, you're not selling concessions to
somebody that's on their couch.
And I remember even the Packers now, when they had, they did not like when people bought their tickets, but didn't go to the game.
Because that can be another, what?
Consumption
is huge.
I mean,
Parkini, you take that all in.
When it comes to that race scene, I think the other thing that, I'm sure you're very cognizant of it, but it's so competitive now with entertainment dollars.
I mean, you
only got, let's say a family says we got $1,000 for entertainment or something like that.
I mean, a Packard game is gonna wipe out half of it, but there's, we just kept talking last night.
Every night there's something in.
racing or indoor football or outdoor concert.
You know what I mean?
It's just, it's hard.
You know,
when I was a kid at the Pierce Seymour channel, that was the powerful half mile circuit in the 70s.
And you had to get there early every
night
just
to get a
seat.
Right.
Well, nowadays we didn't have Netflix.
You didn't have all this other organized stuff, you know.
Right.
Kids used to play pickup baseball as kids.
Everything's so organized and so detailed and there's so many entertainment options, you know,
it makes it tough.
We didn't have the rockers, you know, just baseball net.
I don't know how much tickets are, but... And they have travel league, baseball, and
hockey.
Right.
Exactly.
There's just a lot going on, but... But then you get a pretty unique venue.
I mean, it's not... It's just... It's very... Like I said, it's very specialized.
I think... I would like to own a track now, because I think it'd be tough to get a track permitted now, because of the...
Because you start about the noise but everything everything
environmental right
exactly so that's why I think you know you're gonna be here to stay it's just Maybe you're in a little bit of a while.
There's something special about you and I told I grew up going to Sands Plains.
Oh, yeah sand speedway up in Gwynn, Michigan And there was something special about a Sunday in the summer
Walk it into a dirt track like that or whatever.
That
was
paved walk into a track like that and there was just something very Americana Going to a racetrack on a Sunday afternoon when you I worked in the mines with probably five of the guys that were racing sure the next morning I'm gonna be with them handing him a wrench Talking about the race the day yeah,
and I think I don't know what where what your demographics are you say that's aging?
But we did a lot of that 141 in high school.
Oh sure and just absolutely high school kids
do that.
And maybe you got to get out and talk to them.
Like, look at these hockey teams.
You know, they get out and they go and talk to the students.
They say, this is what I do.
And it's like, oh, I think I want to go.
You know, they build it that way.
But it's competitive, but you've got something very unique.
So
I would get a quick break.
Joe Virgen author and just an interesting all the wrong guy.
But we're going to talk in a tremendously heartfelt cause you are working for with a very young racer.
When we come back right after this.
Hey, welcome back.
My name is Mary here.
I feel like a Wednesday more than Joe Burdigan, author extraordinaire and racing enthusiast extraordinaire.
Joe, let's talk about a very special program you're working with right now.
And tell the background, please.
So a couple of weeks ago, Escanaba Motor Speedway.
They have a division that's called, you know, they run these little wings that kids can start racing at five years old.
They run like winged micro sprints.
Well, there was a young racer there by the name of Easton Winling.
He had a really, really bad crash, was hospitalized for several days.
He's since been released, but he's got a little bit of recovery coming.
So the racing community always steps up.
At Eagle River Speedway last night, we donated the 50-50 raffle to him.
We passed the helmet and everybody was throwing dollars and stuff in it.
Well, one of the things I'm doing, of course, my 2019 book, which was had a forward by a guy named John Minow.
Great hell of a forward.
Yeah, it was.
Racing in the 906.
So it's a book on my website.
The history of racing in the UP.
Tracks up at Sands, like John talked about.
Eskenaba, Norway, and even up in the Sioux up in Canada.
I'm for throughout the month of June.
I'm donating all the profits from the 906 book when you order them through my website at joevertigan.com.
They're going to go towards Easton's family kind of towards his recovery.
You want to read a little snippet of your forward?
This
is good.
I first met Joe Vertigan back in the days when he had misguided dream of being a television sportscaster.
One semester is my intern convinced him there had to be a better way to make a living.
I mean, with all the fast food we consumed on a nightly basis, he soon realized there had to be a healthier and safer
way to make a living, which is why he became a prison guard.
Yeah.
That's that.
That's it in a nutshell, you know, I ended up in radio for three years, which was a blast, you know, but yeah,
I want to go back to these, these young kids.
So Joe, is that safe racing at that young evidence?
Is that
because I know at Escanaba, they do like a like a safety program.
They teach the kids the flags, what they all mean.
And the safety equipment's never been better with the Hans devices.
I know people are going to ask me that.
They will.
But those kids, and I've met just a few of them, but
Not they have a death wish but those kids look They're on the edge a little bit.
Well, yeah a lot of those a lot of those kids not all of them They come from racing families often.
Yeah, and you know, if they grew up around it, you know, they have that type A personality whatever you call it that adrenaline Russian stuff It's
no different than if your dad's a great golfer your grandpa golf and you want to go for your hunter your fishery It's all the same.
It is really and
you never raced your
Well, if you talk to my wife, it's all you got to do.
I'm a horrible driver, according to her.
I'm actually a very bad driver.
But you're cousin.
Scott Hansen was one of the greatest racers ever to come out of northeast Wisconsin.
He was five five time WIR champion.
Scott five time winner at the Milwaukee mile ASA and article rookie of the year.
And he ran NASCAR trucks for three years for Kenny Schrader, too.
So yeah, Scott.
Now he moved back here.
He lives in Howard.
So
we got to get him on the show here.
Oh, he would he would come in the heartbeat.
I'll talk to him.
I'll give Joe's own racing
section.
To rebuild that, like I said, when you talk, I just harken back to high school.
Sure.
We all went.
Oh, sure.
What was
the social of it, right?
Joey's grandpa
used to go all the time.
I mean, they were
80-year-olds,
though, and
they're in 16-year-olds.
I don't remember it being expensive, just fun.
Oh, yeah.
I didn't even know how much racing cost, but this Easting.
the kid that you're helping out now.
Is he okay here?
Yeah, he's okay.
He's back.
He was discharged and back home.
Where are they from Joe?
Either Gladstone or Escanaba.
He might be right from Escanaba, the Winling family, but great racing family and a lot of other tracks are doing stuff.
My buddy Dave Depprey, who you might have on the show down the road, works for NASCAR teams.
He even got a bunch of the NASCAR guys in Mexico City to sign some autograph cards for this kid.
So we're going to deliver him to him.
Who's the guy we had
from the UP?
I want to say he worked on Junior's
car.
Oh yeah, Greg Ives.
Yeah, he's been doing it for a long time, was with Alex Bowman.
He's still up there, but I think he's got like some side of a management position where he's not traveling on the weekends anymore, but it's a grind, I mean.
Well, it's a great story though.
I mean, he was
UP kid.
I think he went to Michigan Tech.
Yes.
So
big into the mechanical
engineering.
He's actually got a chapter in the 906 block.
Oh, okay.
Yep, he's in there.
I
remember reading that he got a call from North Carolina said, we need you to come work for us.
We got to start tomorrow
morning.
He was working at UPS up north.
Earth and UP when he was doing
that.
18 hours straight or something.
Yeah, he's living the dream down there and then it's you know that but a lot of these NASCAR guys though It's a grind you talked to like Mark Martin Mackenseth.
Why how somebody's guys Carl Edwards?
They don't like living in their motorhomes 31 weekends a year I mean it does get old and Dave depri if you get him on the show he'll tell you about the logistics of NASCAR It's a lot of rental cars airports, you know hotels and that kind of thing That's you know that could be a grind at times, but there's a lot of cool stuff, too
But you look at here and in
our community and the racing and you say that, you know, you wish there were more people, but some of those tracks are built for, I mean, they're bigger than NFL stadiums.
I mean, some of these, they just, they really bring them in.
So, I mean, there is a market for that.
Got a quick, is Jerry Munster still racing?
That is a name from the past.
He is Jerry's a friend of mine.
I think he's 84 now.
I know he was racing at Chateau and he recently raced at Luxembourg or was going to 84 at 84.
Yeah, he's still going.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
See there.
That's
a story.
He's still doing it.
I mean, that's that's he's good on the radio.
Yeah.
He's one of the only guys that is still around from the coupe era at the Brown County fairgrounds in the 60s.
Right.
Jerry'd be great on here.
He's a great story teller to
fairgrounds.
That was
a big thing in Norway and Eskenabu and then have their fairs.
It's
not car races.
And I want to say one of them had the figure eight.
Maybe I'm thinking that wrong.
But if they'd have the demolition derby,
that would close out the fair.
That was everybody went to the demolition derby.
Everybody went.
Well, yeah, everybody likes
to see
stuff get wrecked.
Back to the fair races, they often paid like double points nights.
And that was, you know, a lot of those crowds.
Oh, yeah.
When I worked at Norway those five years, it was like some guys would only dress their cars up and only race the fair race.
That was a big deal back then, you know?
Why did the celebrity race up there one year?
At Norway.
Yeah.
Oh nice.
Yeah.
How'd you do?
Not good.
Well, when you race Lindy and Fonte, I think Lindy won that one at WIR.
He put me in the... In the fingers.
Put me in the tulis.
You let him win.
You let him win.
Every time I've gone to WIR after that, people brought that up.
Oh, sure.
Remember that?
We'd be out there and people, hey, I know you're
gonna race again this year.
I think you were in Rick Spooce car 24.
Yes, I was.
Genuine draft.
Yes, Rick is still racing actually in the WIR quarter mile late.
They were
such good guys.
Oh,
yeah.
down there.
You walk around those pits.
You
want to talk with
just a good bunch of guys.
Yeah, I think race car drivers, and they love to share their knowledge with us fans.
And I, um, so what, yeah.
We're on time with Joe.
Okay,
we gotta just get,
this is great.
Absolutely.
I want you to bring on,
you
tell
me.
I'll bring Sam Depprey, and then I'll get Scott on here one time.
I guarantee
he'd do it.
When we're done here, I'm going to show you the openings we got for next week.
We're going to give you the time slot in the night.
You got it.
Joe Virgen's racing segment.
I like it.
Nice.
Awesome guys.
All right.
Get this back.
Don't
let us know that
great scattered showers today high in the low 70s 66 in Green Bay right now 69 in Oshkosh 69 in Appleton with two of our great great friends Ben and Deanna Malchor moving with the Malchors.
OK, little disappointing you.
Oh,
I love.
I love when we start out just like that.
Yeah, yeah.
Yes, yes.
We have the same exact Italian heritage.
Our mother's families are from the same part of Italy.
The whole thing.
Yeah.
And I explain that story to you from Jim's Christmas party.
Yeah,
okay, where he bought me a bottle of Keto's
vodka.
How does vodka tie into our Italian heritage?
Cuz we should have each
other's backs.
I didn't say it was wrong.
You didn't
say it was right.
I just said I wouldn't have done it.
You can interpret it any way you want.
That's just fine.
Doesn't his hotdog bar smell good out
here
though?
It smells delightful.
Finish it.
You
should tell the story to our listeners because they
didn't get that Tito's vodka.
Yeah, she
almost had a big hotdog.
No, no, no, no, no.
Tito's
vodka.
I don't care about the hotdog thing.
But
Tito's vodka, so I call.
Yeah.
As I was telling you, Melchor, is that when I have a party, I pretty much know who's coming.
I kind of know a little bit about him, what they drink.
And you know, some people have wine, beer, and that kind of stuff.
And I called Johnny and I said, hey, what do you like to drink?
Cause he hadn't been over, he's been invited, but never shows up.
He goes like, I'm coming to your Christmas party.
He says, I like Tito's vodka.
I'm like, all right, great.
So I went and got a bottle of that.
And some other people I'd called, somebody likes, not bourbon.
Go whiskey?
No, no, rum.
A certain kind of rum.
And I don't
have a lot of rum in my house.
So I went and got a bottle of rum for him.
Anyway, so anyway, we had the party.
John?
Okay, so
He knows it's sitting right on that like in the living room.
It was it was like a gift It was like it was on the liquor
table.
Did it have a ribbon on
it?
No It was more of a
presentation.
It's like you're right next to the communion where they got the platter of hosts
It was amongst all the other
bottles of liquor and so I go in and it's like oh, I wonder if I should bring that to the kitchen.
It's like oh
So he drank
the bottle that was open, a vodka, and didn't open the Tito's, which I bought because
he was coming home.
That
for him to drink.
He was at my
house.
I did not buy.
I
liked
what you just
did.
Deanna, if I had bought it for him, I would have put a ribbon
on it and showed it to John, Mary
Christmas, but I just bought it as another piece of inventory.
Yeah.
So when I was walking out, I didn't want to be your rude guest.
No.
And not show my appreciation.
You want to take your gift.
So I took my
gift.
Yeah.
You didn't want to hurt feelings.
Exactly.
And oh, he thought that was.
I just had to doubt it.
Where did that bottle of Tito's go?
Why not
took
it?
Now that it's explained a little bit differently.
Yeah.
You on my side?
No.
OK.
We
were walking in as they were walking out.
They had an armful of linens Okay,
so
by the way Nick said he was somebody even texted him said did you have linens and his cookout last night?
I you
know We were at my house, but we ate like over in the park.
Yeah,
and we I we did not Donna said go get some of those
Yeah.
No, the napkins are good.
They're China.
They're
China.
No,
there's a name for them.
And they're
Egyptian.
No, no, no, they were London.
Yes, but they were.
We didn't.
And which was, I said, come on, we can use these.
She
goes, no,
we, she's going to be at the park.
So how are you guys doing?
I know you're going to stop over last night.
You're busy.
You guys are so busy.
I was a little, you know, we were going to bike over and I got a nice basket in my bike.
And I'm like, is it wrong?
Is it wrong to bike over with alcohol?
I don't know.
Thank
you.
Yeah, you don't need to bring
alcohol.
Yeah.
And you brought wine last time.
I would have been fine with this pot of cow.
Which was, but I
know you
were busy, but you're.
You weren't there, which is a great excuse.
You're busy.
Yeah, yeah.
We got some offers in.
That's great.
That trumps everything.
That comes first.
Absolutely.
Well, yeah.
We live and die by that.
We do.
And actually, we have a really exciting listing coming next week.
We do.
We do.
Tell us all about it.
Over on Patty Lane in Eshwana.
Nice area.
Yeah.
Nice area.
Three bedroom.
Ranch or two-story?
Ranch.
Did you say those are like the highest that?
Yeah, they're really
good.
Two-stall garage in the backyard, in addition to a two-stall garage, which is a
passenger.
Wow.
Yeah, both heated.
Total
man cave.
Love it.
It's good.
It's walking distance to Lambo.
I mean, if you're active.
If
you're
active, if you're active, you know,
I mean, it'd be no problem for you two guys.
Yeah, no.
Yeah.
How far to drive?
She
had
me
an active.
Back to the bike.
Yeah.
No, it is.
I mean, it's just right off of Cormier.
So it's nice and close right to the stadium.
Better could you ask for
it?
Oh, it's beautiful.
It's going
on the market.
Next Wednesday?
I think Wednesday or Thursday.
If you want any more information, give us a call.
That's fantastic.
And then I want to
just, the condos, of course people in my age talk about condos all the
time.
It's all a house that's
got a condo and how are those going?
You
know
what?
The model they're
not built yet.
Yep.
Yep.
They're kind of pre-construction.
They hope to start at the end of summer We've got a lot of people swimming around so yeah, I think once they start moving they are gonna be there's only six so once they start I think if they're gonna fly off the shelf So we've got a lot of interest in you know, it's six and one.
They're kind of what is that called zero?
Zero entry.
No, not zero entry zero lot line.
Thank you
And so there's six in one building.
They all have attached garage, nice garage to it.
It's too solid with a back kind of storage area workshop, whatever you want to use it for.
We've got a ton of interest in the end two units, of course, because people like being, you know, having no neighbors on one side and just having maybe an extra window or two.
But yeah, they're going to fly real soon.
So give us a call if you're interested.
They just think there's more development.
I just see something
that was approved last night,
Howard,
which I think is not houses, but these kinds of things.
Well, you know, they're kind of becoming especially condos when you think about it and that the age demographic that's coming up, they're ideal, you know, for people who like to travel, who maybe are going to winter somewhere for a couple months to be able just to leave and not worry about, you know, lawn care.
and snow blowing and all that kind of stuff.
Well even that, God
bless guys, God bless northern Wisconsin guys.
They still don't want to hire somebody to snowball.
And we had somebody on one time from an emergency room and they said if people only knew the amount of injuries from guys in their 70s, 80s, even in their night.
Remember I told you that guy in the U.P.
with the head, unbelievable storm.
He was 92 and still out shoveling his thing.
But they say the injuries, the one slip and that could change the rest of your life.
Oh, you did a cardiac
event.
There was a guy knew he was in his 40s.
He had a car.
at cardiac event, you passed away, snowballing.
I think shoveling, right?
It was snowballing,
yeah.
I just think that people, I don't know if they don't think they deserve to hire it out, but I don't know, and I got no problem with that, because they have the equipment, which is, you know, they have the spikes on their horses, which I don't, I mean, I have them, but I- You never throw them on.
But just everything, and they also do a better job than I would.
I mean, I'm not
great at, but even with lawn care, it's like perfect.
Oh, yeah.
Anyway.
But
if
you're kind of you're paying for it anyway, you just don't see it like that.
So when you look at
your house, you say, well, I'm going to have some guy do my snowball and do my lawn and clean my gutters.
That's going to cost me X.
Okay.
Well, the benefit to, I mean, here's not only just the care of it.
I mean, we think about it all the time.
When you do leave for a couple of months, if you're going to winter somewhere else and you get some cold up here and maybe your furnace goes out, he goes out when you're kind of sandwiched in with other buildings, that's going to keep your space a little bit warmer.
So you don't have those same fears of a single.
a family home where when you leave for a couple months, you could be coming back to a mess.
I went
in to show house one time in Eschewa, but it was a flip type thing and the furnace had gone out.
And we walk in and it's like, oh my God, all the water was frozen in the toilets and then all the porcelain was cracked and it was coming through the ceiling.
And then when you turn the heat back on.
Would you like to write on
this?
People don't understand the damage that
can do.
Then there's another one over on Stadium Drive.
Our good friends had the Dr. Fun House where you guys shot that thing.
And the same thing
happened.
Yeah, that's what it was called, right?
Dr. Fun.
Yeah, it was.
And they said they walked in.
It was almost like stalagmites.
The icicles were so big coming out
of the ceiling at
the house next door to them.
Oh, that's just heartbreaking.
Honestly.
I wouldn't
be able to sleep while on, you know, if I went away for the winter someplace, having a house,
I
would have to have somebody staying there or something.
Or, you know, we're fortunate where we live.
We just have the best neighbors.
We just,
we talked about that last night, people like, and, you know, people are kind of a louder neighborhood.
No, not where we are.
Like we have just great, great, and if they would move, I tell you, talk about affecting our decision.
If
our
neighbors are full size,
we'd be like, and they can,
and they watch your house, they got.
you know, it's still the old days, if you need a cup of sugar or something, they just are great, great people.
And it's, if you could, too bad you can't control that as buying, but that, that's very, very important.
And some of those condos, maybe they are more, cause we all live in the same building kind of,
and we
support each other.
You know, one thing though, just switching gears real quick there.
I wanted to mention this to you guys.
I saw, I want to say a ninth street.
Okay.
A house for sale, 159.
It's like,
I haven't seen
159.
It's been forever.
A long, long time.
Those are numbers you don't see.
How many numbers is that?
And it was, it had been flipped or whatever you could tell, but it looked nice.
But 159.
Yeah,
how's the foundation, John?
Well, I
probably doesn't have one.
You know, I think that's a number that's a little, like, I think you go in a little, like, let's just see what's going on here.
Yeah, because those numbers, especially on ninth, that's a really great area to live.
Close to Mason Brothers.
Yeah, yeah.
But it was just so cool to see that number.
Yeah,
I
hear
that.
I know, I know.
Just go with that.
Just know that, yeah, yeah.
But maybe, I mean, you never know where they got it, what they did to it.
And it could be really, really, you know, it could be 900 square feet.
You just don't know.
I
always check the history.
Yeah.
And I was saying 2012, it was $49,000.
Oh, wow.
Oh,
my gosh.
But
that's just a crazy pricing that we've experienced
so double.
It's just that this
isn't the 78% percent.
it's doubled and tripled for you, right?
That's right, that would be tripled now.
But I think though, the real estate though, in our community is, it's not crazy, but I really like to see all this new development that's going on.
And I
think that's gonna free up.
more properties
because I don't
think, I think we're growing, but we're not growing like people wish we were growing.
I
mean, we're
just kind of moving a little bit of the furniture around.
We are growing.
We're not growing at 20% or anything.
We're not booming like some of these communities.
So I just hope that we get ahead of the game because we got behind
it.
All these developments to peer, you know, obviously Howard, you
know,
they got a big thing going on.
And, you know, the city's working pretty hard here too about some development.
So I think if that
two, three years, maybe we can settle things down.
I don't think we're going to see 159, but I just think we're not going to see
to see this crazy stuff anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We just kind of need it to, you know, even out a little bit.
So it's a little bit more even playing field for everybody.
Well,
it expands the potential marketplace that you guys have of potential
buyers.
Yeah.
Well, and that's just it.
We have the buyers.
We just need, we just need the inventory.
That's always the issue.
Anything under 400,000.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
It still sounds like a lot of money to me.
I know it is it is it truly is and it's just that the way that that first time home buyers price has gone up is insane.
Any any bright lights?
Insight.
It's the train.
It's the train.
So when I see those little houses, I think of
some young family.
Oh, I get so excited.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you've got a lot of DIYers, too.
So even if you have a home that is a little bit distressed, there's a market out there for it.
People love that when they can take a home and make it theirs.
So sometimes they don't realize that how intensive the projects can be.
But you've got a market for it.
Gizmo, my son just bought a house in Colorado, paid over $600,000, and it's 1,800 square
feet.
Wow.
Yeah, I believe it.
Yeah.
We are lucky here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Your money, you could still, I mean, there's that one report, you can still.
We go, our money goes further here.
Yeah.
One of the reasons we're an
attractive community.
It just does.
And people need to really appreciate that.
I mean, things cost money, but.
You know, you're still, your money goes further here.
You don't have any money left over in Milwaukee or in Indianapolis or especially New York, but...
All right.
Hold that thought.
We got to start a quick break.
We're with Ben and Deanna Mallochor.
Moving with them Mallochors.
Everything you want to know about real estate taking place right now in northeast Wisconsin.
We got it for you.
Back right after this.
Ben and Deanna Malachor run a phenomenal agency here at downtown Green Bay
now
in a beautiful part of town on main with a hundred and twenty year old building.
So pretty
love it.
Yeah.
We love it.
Every time I walk in there I'm like I love this space.
I don't like it.
Yeah.
I was always
wanted something like that.
Yeah.
And
that is an awesome feeling that you just can't buy.
Yeah.
To walk in.
Yeah.
You can't build it.
Yeah.
I can't
believe you can't build a place like that anymore.
That feeling is.
I
know
exactly what
you're talking about
because I walk into a couple places like, I love
this.
And you're
just, and you're not going to duplicate that.
No,
no.
The best builder couldn't duplicate, won't duplicate because first of all.
the cost would be crazy to spend that kind of money on what you have there.
Yeah.
Oh, it
would be.
And that's right.
What's 100 block?
It's 1238.
Yeah, Main Street.
We're on the second floor.
Right.
And there's more businesses coming there.
I
mean, I
see some of the signage that's
coming up there.
Honestly, I think that building is full.
I think it's full.
OK.
Yeah, I think it's full.
Which is cool.
That tells you it's a hot market.
Everybody keeps, you know, if one frees up, there's somebody in that space.
I love it when I
see like a third floor that's vacant or something and some of those kind of buildings
right down the street.
from you
guys.
I love that.
I know.
And a shout out to Jeff Murkis.
Jeff is so good at walking around and just making people aware of opportunities downtown.
Yeah, definitely.
You know, we, we, this happens to be owned by somebody that we know in the business, which was great, but Jeff was such a big help when we were looking for a new space and, and kind of alerting Ben to things that he knew of or saw or whatever.
But I talk about a guy who's got his finger on the pulse of the city.
Do you guys ever go down the street to the.
a crown there for one of their pizzas.
Part
those
good.
New York style.
Oh, pepperoni green olive.
Oh, yeah.
And
what they do with their
mushrooms,
they cook them, they really know what they're doing.
They know what they're doing with the pizza.
They cook so much stuff before and then put it on again and cook it again.
They really know what they're doing with pizza.
That's, you know, and you know, pizza is like by far the number one fast food that people like.
And I just.
I don't think I get the word out more.
Once you go there,
that's going
to be one of your places
you're going to go.
Right now is the time.
Like being there in the summer when they've got that, you know, the kind of outdoor area open.
It's kind of an indoor outdoor break.
Yeah, it's perfect.
So even if it's raining, you can go and sit outside.
It's
wonderful.
There's history there.
It's a cool ambiance
there.
Yeah,
you talk about the old buildings.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, right through those stores, that's where I met Ben, because that was boomers.
So, you know, it's been top-hand standard and company.
Oh,
yeah.
Can we talk, guy talk?
Sure.
So, you met this hot chick at boomers?
At boomers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You'll never guess what dance got her out on the dance floor.
Tell me.
The Humpty Dance.
You didn't tell that story?
Boomers was too rough for me to go through back
in the day.
It's just amazing the power of alcohol.
I think actually it was a city party, it was a parky party.
It was a parky
party.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Parking.
Nope.
I was not neither of us were, but we both have friends that were.
And so we got invited.
Yeah.
To the, to the Monday night.
Parking party.
That
is awesome.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's cool.
Well, Ben and Danny Malkirk, tell us what you got going on right now, what you're looking for.
Yeah.
Well, I'm going to, I'm going to do a one more shout
out
for Door County.
We are still looking for Bayfront property north of Sturgeon Bay, probably as close to Egg Harbor as possible up through Sister Bay on the bay.
at least four bedrooms, they would be a cash offer.
So if you're thinking about selling, we've got very...
you know, motivated buyers.
Let's just say that.
So we have, we're scouring.
And so we've even sent out cash.
We've even sent out those cards.
Those are good
words.
Wow.
If I
was even thinking about it, I'd call you.
I know, right?
Not that
we're going to do it
for sure, but
like we've talked about it.
Let's just call the Melchors
and see where we're at.
Yeah, definitely.
So we still have needs up in in Door Coney for some of our buyers.
So if you're thinking about it.
Yeah, we've got a buyer in Green Bay again.
and talking about those lower price points, nice young gentleman.
Anything under, I think he's 169, which I know is really, really tough, but we're looking.
But he'll move on.
He's a
handy young man.
We've got another set of buyers, anything under 350,000.
They're pre-approved for, so.
Tell us one more time about the Ashwabbanon
one.
This sounds
like an Abbanon ranch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, over on Patty Lane Ranch.
Almost all of the concrete has just been redone.
There's a detached garage that's two and a half stalls heated.
There's a 220 plug in there.
So if somebody's into welding or whatever, it's going to be hit in the market next week.
It's
within backyard.
It's within walking distance and or biking distance.
We're driving.
We're driving or driving.
Depending on how
active you are.
I know.
Do you guys have a
moped?
Shadows.
We may have one coming up in the Schmidt Park area.
That one's another
good name.
Five bedrooms in the 300.
That one needs a little love.
It needs a little TLC.
But it's going to be an awesome home for somebody.
Rainbows, a lot of updates to those big ticket items.
Is that kind of
like one of those big old houses?
New windows.
Yeah, kind of a Spanish-inspired exterior.
You
guys have some good listings there, I do.
Yeah.
We've got great clients.
We do.
Yeah, we do.
I know a lot of
people would kill for those kind of listings.
Those are great.
Yeah.
Yeah, we've got some good ones coming up.
Did
the one by Bayport sell?
Oh, yeah.
It's
under contract.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We do have the one off a Humboldt private.
Oh, yeah.
That one is a pond.
10 acres pond, which is stocked.
You know, the guy who owns it, he hunts on it, right
in
the city limits.
Yeah.
You know, he, yeah, another ranch, exposed ranch at the back, but.
Finished basement.
Finished basement sitting on 10 acres in the city.
Boy, can't ask for better than
that.
That's one of those that people, it's been on the market for a while, so people wonder what's wrong with it.
Right, right.
There really isn't anything wrong with it.
Right.
Come see it.
I'm gonna
give you a phone
number 920-495-7653.
Always the best way to get ahold of us, whether it's call or text.
7653, it'd be Bob Skoronski.
Oh, there we go.
Yes, yes.
He was the best.
Was that not 76 was Chad Clifton as well?
Very good, very good.
That's 53.
I
was doing things.
Ah, Coons.
Ah, George Coons.
Yep, very good.
Nicely
done.
Nice
job.
Or if you want to go way for Beck, Freddie Carr.
for a car.
Yes.
Good gravy.
That's going
way back.
You guys are awesome.
Stop in.
They're phenomenal.
Quick break.
Pack after us.
Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.
And
here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim
Schmidt.
We're here with John Kramer, Headlines of the Press Times.
We're with Rick Pembroke.
You ought to say Pembroke Pembroke.
Long
eye.
Pembroke.
Pembroke.
You did not.
I asked Kramer that.
And Rick, I want you to introduce our very special guest.
Well, we took on a girl in Big Mouth and the Power Toolhorns, and we couldn't be happier.
Her name is Kelsey Denay.
Hi, Kelsey.
Hi.
Just
to
say, Rick, neither could
we as fans.
I mean, you performed last night, and that crowd was unbelievable last night.
And there was, I just, you'd performed it before, but, I mean, that was already back.
to the basketball court they were seated in.
They just were loving that, the encore, they couldn't get enough of you.
You would be a better judge of this than me, but I don't remember seeing that many people in that park for anything.
I am a good judge of that because I sit on my front porch and watch it.
We were really surprised, I mean, very pleased, but I think a couple things, right?
It's the beginning of summer.
It was perfect weather, like not good weather, it was perfect.
The mood was good, the ambiance was great, and you know, to get...
big mouth and the power tools there.
I just, the whole night, we had a blast.
And you were, I just want to say again, you know, I know you a little bit, but you were terrific.
And you,
you never think big mouth could get better, but you just add another element to it that makes it unbelievable.
What did I say to you in the middle of that gig a couple of weeks ago?
I leaned in and I said, thanks for making us a better band.
He said
that to me when
I sang with him one time
at
Jimmy C's.
Oh, so I'm not special, right?
No, no, folks out there in Radio Land, that's not
true
because
I've been
trying to get Mino up on my stage for a long time.
Cramer never got me drunk enough.
I pull up to a microphone.
I say his name and he heads for the door.
You know, I, if you
want, you know, if you want to clear the room out, there you go.
Tell
us about your background.
I think it's so great
that
you're homegrown and you hit the big time
and you're
coming back with these guys, which is such an incredibly popular band.
But tell us the whole transition because like, you know, Jim's daughter and you guys pretty much follow those same paths.
Unfortunately, she couldn't get a job in your business.
She had to become a doctor.
She's probably making a little bit more money.
I want to say
though, I want to say she would have preferred to be in your industry.
Yeah.
Day because people like you, you, it gets in your blood and you absolutely love it and it shows.
Yeah.
Um, yeah.
So I grew up here.
I grew up in Ashwabenan, um, went through the Ashwabenan school district, um, was always in choir and fine arts, solo ensemble, that kind of stuff.
Um, hard telling,
right?
Really?
Yeah.
Um, did some community theater and stuff in the Green Bay area.
Um, and then.
And I went to school at UW-Stevens Point for musical theater and received my BFA and graduated in 2012.
And then I moved to New York.
I had never been there until my senior year and went out with our showcase.
And I just fell in love with the city.
And I knew that that was where I needed to be.
And it took me a couple years to kind of.
get a groove and I was able to join the actors equity which is the actors union like right out of college Which helped me just get my foot in the door and be in the room and really grateful for that and my
like first job was actually at the fireside doing a production of Les Mis.
So it brought me back to Wisconsin, which was really fun.
And fast forward several years of some regional productions and some readings in stuff in New York.
And I was fortunate enough to join the company of Les Mis Arab.
And I traveled with that show for...
two years prior to the pandemic and found myself at home in 2020.
Went back to the show in 2022 and came home last summer to finish some wedding planning.
I get married in September, so I'm home for that.
Hi, Jacob, if you're listening.
You better be.
Hi to my parents who are also probably listening.
But yeah, and then
I knew Mark Jemez, who is sax player with Power Toolhorns in Big Mouth, who reached out to me saying that they were looking to add a new flavor to the band and if I would be interested in the rest of this history, I guess.
Rick liked me, so that was important.
Well, and about that, we had a rehearsal.
We rehearsed at Schwaben in high school.
It
was really trippy to be back in that space.
And yeah, and this girl, so we learned a few tunes and this girl walks in for an audition, right?
And she walks in, says hi, opens up their music and puts it on a stand and we go.
She did what?
You did three tunes, right?
Four.
Three or four,
four
tunes.
And then when she was done, she was like, okay, thanks.
Clapped her folder, shut and left.
And she doesn't know it until this very moment, but she was in the band before her front tires hit Willard Drive.
She left, we all looked at each other like, are you kidding me, really?
Where's the question here?
Sign her up.
That
says a lot for you, because you're changing, not changing, you're enhancing your band.
It's a change for you guys.
You guys have been around.
It's a big
change, 38 years worth of...
Ugly Harry dudes and now... Got an
ugly hairy
woman.
Cinderella waltzes there.
Your voice is great, but you know this better than anybody.
You just fit.
the team.
I mean, your stage presence is good.
You're, you know,
that's really a big part of it, Jim.
You know, when you take somebody new on, you got to be a big mouth guy.
You got to be an easy hang.
Right.
And
you can't stand out.
It's tough to fake that.
Right.
It's got to be there.
You can't.
Yeah.
You can't.
We knew right away.
Yeah.
But I already hear because there's people come in here every Friday.
We kind of try to feature local artists, either music or theater, dance, arts.
You went to New York, just like 42nd Street.
Like I'm going to be a star.
Wow,
by yourself?
By myself.
I'll give
you a lot of credit.
That takes a lot of confidence.
I mean, I was broke, so there was that.
But I knew, I was like, if I don't go there when I'm in my early 20s and fresh out of school, I'm never gonna go.
It was either then or never.
So you might as well just...
try it and if it doesn't work out.
And like, I love the city.
I don't, at this point, unless I'm working there, I don't really have a desire to go back and like just live there and have other jobs to pay the bills in between things.
But, you know, it's the city.
I mean, just like the energy and the vibe in the community.
And you see that a lot more like now too.
And the arts are just, they're so important and they matter in the stories we tell.
So.
Such
an
inspiration for young people.
We have so
many people come through and we talk about the great and you know whenever we do it and Jim says Oh by the way, we got Jacob is listening.
Love you Kelsey.
I Almost got the laundry done, but Jim always talks to them about there had to be somebody
Who was it that that inspired you or that certain something that gave you that spark and more than just a spark gave you that confidence So who was that person who are those people for you to go from you're at Valley viewer someplace?
Okay, and then you're standing on stage at the Kennedy Center The most prestigious place the United States to do something like this much less the world.
What's that like?
What's that journey like?
Oh
gosh incredible.
I mean like
Every music teacher I had, so like in Valley View, is Mrs. Carlson, Mrs. Minel.
Park Minel?
Minel.
Oh, Minel, yeah.
Easy job, easy job.
Yeah.
And then, uh... Hey, I'm
just gonna take credit for you too, so, yeah.
Yeah, and then... Because you know
he got big balls started.
I know my mom taught music.
And then middle school was Mary
Eisenreich.
It wasn't his grandma who taught music, because she was in jail.
But that's the first time.
Yeah, then middle school, Mary Eisenreich taught at...
Parkview.
And then in high school, Teresa Shropfer taught while I was there.
She retired back in 2018.
And then of course my parents, my family, friends that I've worked with.
But yeah, in high school, I got a chance to be a part of the Honors Choir, both for classical and jazz, which Jim has actually helped a lot for that because I didn't know how to scat or do things.
So I workshopped with him a little bit.
So that was something new that I got to do.
And yeah, it was just also...
Brent Braco.
So he directed like the one act plays and stuff.
So started to kind of get involved in like more straight acting.
And Mary Eisenreich did the musicals at Ashwabbanan.
So yeah, just all these people who invested time and energy to help me like harness talent.
Well,
that's the thing.
And Ashwabbanan, for some
reason we've
had numerous people from Ashwabbanan that have really
done successful things.
If you
have that interest, if you have that passion and you're willing to put in the work,
there are adults out there that will help mentor you for
as
much as you want.
True?
Yeah.
And it's just like, it's incredible and, and like getting.
to leave and then come back.
And like the connections you make along the way, like the show I did at the fireside, Mary Ellinger is the music director there.
And so I connected with her.
And then in 2015, I was back home doing always Patsy Klein at the web with her, which was just incredible.
And you just never know really like what's gonna happen.
But if I could look back, I mean, I didn't wanna go to college and I didn't really know what my career was gonna look like.
But if I had to like,
if I got to see, you know, 10-year-old Kelsey face-to-face, like, I'd be like, you did it.
You made it.
And like, even if it's on Broadway, that's cool.
Like, everybody's journey is different, you know, and...
So, tell me about the... Connected with... With Rick and with Big Moth.
I mean,
did you... Did you follow when you were a kid?
Not a kid, but maybe you're a little bit younger?
Or...
More than a little bit.
Thank you.
I'm older than Rick thought I was.
Okay, well, I do have to get into that, but you're young.
Let's just say that.
Did you, the audition, I mean, what made you say, look, did you advertise that you were looking for somebody?
I
don't even know
how that
worked.
No, no, no.
Mark said, hey.
Oh, I see.
There's someone that we should be interested in.
And so it's snowballed from there.
It happened pretty quickly.
Yeah.
And I don't know, I think.
I think they thought I was going to question why we were doing that.
Rick, I want to give you a lot of credit.
That just says a lot about you.
Well, whatever it says, the thing about it for me with these guys is that, and I told Mark this this morning on the way in, I'm for doing anything that's going to make us a better band.
That's gonna, that's gonna allow us to have more fun.
That's gonna allow us to be a more viable product out there and to reach as many nice folks as we can, which kind of last night proved that.
Oh man, did it.
You know, yeah.
So what kind of songs will you be doing then?
I mean, you mentioned Patsy Klein, you could be doing some Patsy Klein.
I mean, maybe.
I don't
know.
I think eventually, well, if
I was a singer, I'd
be like a male version of Patsy Cline.
I'm
serious.
Crazy.
I'm crazy.
He's
crazy.
We're going to get him on
stage
now.
Well, he dodges me every time.
And I just, I
don't
want you to feel uncomfortable, John.
So this is why they took my mic away because I would crack on that.
And we take it away again, right?
And there it goes.
Funny how that goes.
No.
I
have to ask you though, that one, what I said before, you had to like, you're backstage.
Cause I used to be a theater, I used to be a, an actor.
Yeah.
I was, in fact, I don't know my certificates.
I was actor of the art, Masabi State, junior college.
Nine students.
1976.
So anyway, I just thrown that out there.
One room school house.
But when you were backstage.
Because even when we went to the Y gym and I have both done little things at the wider your guest appearances to promote you know during events and walk it on the wider and I you know I could talk in front of a million people whatever and there's no being on stage at the wider my knees were like shaking I mean it was like oh this is a different world
very
sound different than you would ever so when you were backstage before the first three for the curtain went up at doing lame is at the Kennedy Center Can you tell me what was going through your mind?
Oh my gosh, so it's actually the opposite situation for me.
If you want me to public speak, being on the radio is different because no one has to see me, but public speaking terrifies me.
Being on stage, there's just something because you're stepping, I'm myself, but you're stepping into the shoes of someone else.
So when we were at the Kennedy Center, I actually got a chance to go on...
I'm
fascinated
by
your story.
Pay
attention to our cue.
Very quick break.
Back with more Kelsey Denay and Rick Pinebrick, the new singer for Big Mouth.
Back right after Pollard's Woods.
special guest couple of her at three very special guests Kelsey Denae the new singer for Big Mouth Rick Pinebrook of course from Big Mouth and John Kramer with the press times John how are you we didn't talk to you all righty so
thanks for coming John thanks for driving John
I'll tell you what this guy moves up in the military more than anybody I know tell us about your new gig with the Coast Guard auxiliary buddy
Well, first and foremost, we know that the Coast Guard Auxiliary is not the military.
Well, kind of.
It's pseudo, but we support active duty Coast Guard.
All right.
But I was assigned to a position at the district level.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I got a little new insignia.
It's not rank.
It's an insignia of office, just so we're clear on that.
Okay.
But a cool uniform.
Oh, I look great in it.
Okay.
Yeah, I get to shoot an event.
This Friday, down at active duty Coast Guard sector, Lake Michigan, is having a change of command.
So I'm going down there and taking pictures for that.
And
then I'll be taking pictures of the change of command at the Mobile Bay, up in Sturgeon Bay on the 27th, I think.
And
keep doing that pack or stuff you do.
Yeah, so I'll be helping out with all the packer photography and I'll be helping out with the packer land publication or supplement that we put in the paper.
So looking forward to that and I'm backing up Tori on that.
You took pictures
last night.
What's that?
You took pictures
last night.
Oh yeah, we'll get some pictures of these guys up on the website and social media and all that jazz.
But it is so nice to not have to look at these guys so much through my lens.
You know, you've got those nice lenses and you've got a nice face to look at.
I
think what's important about taking pictures of me, huh?
Before the bandage.
You can barely tell.
Yeah, whatever.
What's important about you, John, is that you went to school at TC.
I teach there, and I just think to get a second career, and you're very, very happy with what you've done.
I mean, you just seem like you're...
really digging the whole photography, the digital, everything you're doing.
Well, I have an opportunity to work with you, Jim, and that's what makes it happen.
Wow.
All right, there we go.
Wow.
He sits there with his press cassette paper in front of him.
Sorry.
I get yours,
too.
Come on every day of my years.
I have to ask you those first.
What is your number one strength?
Obviously, you're in the lame is, but what do you feel like you could bring to the table more than anybody else?
Oh, gosh.
I don't know.
That's a, that's a tough question.
Um, I don't know.
I guess like, I just, I like having fun and I like, at a good time, it's fun to like play off these guys.
Um, the sense of humor.
Rick
is like
punching his
jaw, shaking his head.
I
don't want to answer that for you, but you bring the audience even closer to the big mouth.
I just think you, you just, you do, you interact.
I mean, I saw you just.
Briefly last night, I was at home.
There there is an air right.
She does.
You can tell she's just like sitting in here.
You know, I look over when she's in the middle of a tune and and I see her connecting with people in crowd.
And I mean, that's not something that you can teach.
That's that's that's here.
It's it's deep in your guts and and it's it's really it's really pretty fun to watch.
Yeah.
And
I just want to
say what Rick said
earlier.
Well, now what Rick said earlier, I think you bring, I think you make the team better.
And I just think that's.
Thank you.
The spice.
That's
my strength, the spice.
But you don't get to do to make everything come full circle.
You got to perform at the new Ashwabbanon Performing Arts Center at the high school.
So I have.
Oh, you have.
Oh,
OK.
Funny enough, yeah, they built that after I graduated,
which
was like.
turds.
But, you know, also like, the first time I got to sing on that stage was when Teresa Shepard retired and they invited all the alumni back
to
sing Hail to the Ashrabanan, which is the song that the senior, they sing when the seniors graduate and then there's like, they all like come and she reads all the names of the seniors and she didn't know all of these, these alumni were coming.
So when we got to that point of the concert, like at least a hundred.
maybe 150 alumni got up out of the seats and walked up on stage.
So she was just like looking like, oh my God, hi, oh my God, hi.
And then this past spring, I actually got the opportunity to sing with the band.
They were doing a back to Broadway spring concert was their theme.
And I got to sing on my own with them.
So that was really fun.
I actually hadn't sang that song since solo ensemble in eighth grade.
I kind of aged out of that.
And then I covered Fontaine on the tour.
So
with singing different material.
But yeah, I've gotten to be on it a couple times and it's
exciting.
That's awesome.
I get to ask, life on the road, on a traveling show, what's that like?
Yeah, it's something else.
It depends on which tour you are on.
My tour, we were in a category where some of our bigger city circuits, Chicago, DC, Boston, LA, were there for no less than two weeks.
So we actually get a chance to kind of like settle in, unpack a little bit.
But our show, just being as big as it was, is it still touring, cannot do less than a week in a city.
So for all of the other cities,
one week, our travel day and our day off is a Monday.
So we would do shows Tuesday through Sunday and then travel to the next city on a Monday.
And you're living out of two 50 pound suitcases.
You get a trunk that you can put extra stuff into on a truck.
And you just, you kind of make it work.
A lot of, they provide housing and travel.
people will pack either kitchen stuff to have in a hotel or they'll get an Airbnb to kind of feel a little bit more at home.
This last stretch I was driving a lot and had my dog with me.
My fiance worked remotely so like he would come out and visit in some of the cities and that was nice.
And then I actually got to be back at the pack in Appleton last February and our fontine took vacation so I got to do fontine at home at the pack and that was awesome.
That's an interesting life.
I mean age appropriate.
I mean that's gotta be fun right yeah different cities meeting people and yeah that that's pretty on you have a final comment
well yeah I wanted to Rick Rick to plug some dates he's got coming up yeah well I do
have a couple if that's okay we are going to be at Ashwab made for the food truck rally on Thursday
from five to eight, that would be tomorrow.
Friday, we're up in Sister Bay.
It's Debora, Al Johnson's place up there.
Saturday at the wheelhouse in Wapaka.
If you've never been to this one, this is a thing to be at.
Yeah, we had the lady on from there.
She
sounds
like really
cool
place.
It is.
That's
awesome.
We're out of time.
This has been great.
Thank you so much, Kelsey.
Congratulations.
Welcome home.
Thank you.
This is great.
Rick, you guys always rock.
Always a pleasure to be here, fellas.
Thank you.
John.
Keep it rocking, buddy.
Keep doing what you do.
All right, we'll give you a mic next time.
He's
got the best shirt right now.
Hey,
welcome
back.
Mine on the bear here.
97.9 FM WGBW.
98.3, 96.5 FM WISS, of course, the Civic Media app.
Milwaukee Brewers at Chicago Cubs tonight.
630 on WISS.
We'll have that one for you coming your way from Appleton and Oshkosh.
By the way, Blake Shelton, 49 years old today.
Isabella Rosalini, 73.
Carol Kane, 73.
And Paul McCartney, 83 years old.
But looks good, doesn't he?
Yes, he's
also
really does extremely wealthy and I think that's cool when you have that kind of money that kind of and he still performs.
Yeah, I think that's
giving back I did not
okay.
I I actually got
pummeled on people for seeing this.
I was never a Beatles fan.
Yeah.
I was in their in their later years with like the white like back in the USSR and those kinds of songs that they did.
They did all that.
I did.
I didn't like their like pop stuff.
Really?
Yeah.
She loves you.
Yeah.
Oh man.
I was never into that.
See when they perform a carton of wings.
I wasn't into that.
That wings thing I could take her leave.
But I don't like George Harrison as a soloist.
No.
I'm back when they performed at the Waverly.
Remember that guy?
It was
the other guy a
couple times.
And they had three change sets though.
They dressed, you know, the Yellow Submarine was one of the, but they started the, I liked the first set the best.
I just, cause that's all the original and that we love, you're just talking about.
Anyway, wow.
Yeah, yeah, I know I you know, I'll be honest when I mentioned that There are a lot more people that kind of came out of the woodwork said mine Oh, I never wanted to say it, but I wasn't a huge Beatles fan either.
Oh, yeah, no one of them No
early I'm trying early.
I
much much prefer the early
because I can get I can do the thing now I could do the thing now
I got my little app thing or whatever you call it.
So I can see if people text.
Oh, I'm gonna do this.
Hang on.
Hang on.
Hang on.
I'm gonna do
this.
You have to buy it or civic buy it for you.
I have no idea.
I don't know.
I know nothing.
All right.
So
Beatles.
Yes or no, that's too broad.
Yeah.
Um, no, what's we got to put?
How can we put that
early Beatles?
Yes or no.
Um, okay.
Yeah.
Beatles pre 1970.
Okay.
Beetle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mine's yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Um,
Okay, mine is
no, so we're
canceling each other out
right off
the bat.
Conn?
I mean, I didn't really listen to him.
Okay, he doesn't know.
I was born in 1999, so.
Well, okay, you know what, Conn?
I don't need
to
hear
that.
The Civil War was over a good time.
I was born, but I can tell you all about it and who won.
Okay, just throw that out there.
So yeah, Texas, all that before 1970, yes or no?
Jesse, Beatles before 1970,
all that, yes or
no?
Yes
So this big mouth and yeah, that's exciting isn't it I and man she great and That I'll give that band a lot of
credit here a cowboy Dave says what are you John some kind of a communist?
Yes for the Beatles
cowboy, but for them to play all those years and then
add someone that's there's yeah I don't risk is the right word but it's just you gotta step back a little bit your ego and say wait a minute
yeah we're gonna share we're
gonna share the stage I agree um but like he said
She auditioned, and she wasn't even
two blocks away till they voted her in.
You're looking
for somebody to come and you look at the resume and says, Les Mis, Kennedy Center.
Yeah.
New York, right.
Why don't we need to hear a little something?
You think she's that good now?
Yeah.
Brian says, stones were better than the Beatles.
William says, yes.
I would.
We're tied.
But we're not doing the stones.
We're
tied?
What?
So he means, yeah, the Beatles were not as good as the Stones.
That's
not the question.
Wouldn't you agree?
Who do you think was better?
Those people who changed the question, you know what I mean?
They're not.
Yeah, the question is, did you like the Beatles pre-1970?
Yeah.
They're old stuff.
And
my answer is yes.
Jesse said yes.
The lights are just lighting up.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
yes.
Some bulbs must be out.
I don't know.
Some bulbs must be out.
But also it is, we mentioned sushi day.
Yes.
All right.
And picnic day.
When's the last time you went on a
picnic?
You know what?
When I saw that, first of all, sushi, I took a class on how to make sushi with the seaweed and rice.
Do you like sushi?
No.
Oh,
I don't dislike it.
I just if you're if I was if somebody said hey, we're definitely gonna go Out for lunch.
Yeah, and they said you want to go get a cheeseburger?
Yeah, you want to go get a nice chef salad?
Yes.
You want to go get a fill in the blank?
Yes.
You want to go get sushi?
No,
I might answer it that way too.
I just yeah with
Anyway, that's sushi.
Greg, by the way, and Alpton says it's the band that changed the world, Mino.
There you go.
That's right.
And then Brian says, changing the topic midstream.
Have you even heard this show, Jim?
OK, OK, OK, you're right, Brian.
But that sushi, I just don't see that as a meal.
it's
always been like
an appetizer
for me and
that's but it's You can make such a variety and I
know I like that.
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Okay, so But no the picnic thing I bought get this You know, you've done a million auctions like I have They had a picnic basket that was in the auction and had that
And it was a real picnic basket like I know they look cool.
I bought it I went so that was the last time we went on a picnic and it had the little checkered table and put it
on a ground Would you even go on a picnic these days?
Is there some hillside with lilies and stuff and a nice shade tree and you lay out the blanket and you have a transistor radio and a thermos?
You could just go to a...
Do we even
make thermoses anymore?
That's all part of it.
You don't have to sit at the picnic table.
I mean...
I know, but where would you go?
Where is there a
nice place?
I don't know, Lily Lake, any place.
Then you'd be at a picnic table.
I'm saying...
That was that was my point is you don't have to sit at the picnic table You're sitting in the parking lot
Yeah,
you're right.
There's
that When you envision the pic next the old-fashioned picnic of being outdoors under this really nice tree on this this lush hillside.
Yeah, where would you go?
Well, I guess, like, maybe you could have a picnic like if you go to Heritage Hill with a gazebo and listen to music, you could do a picnic at, even last night, right, at St.
James Park and listen, because you don't have to sit in a bench or in a lawn chair.
You can sit on the ground with your little picnic.
Okay.
I mean, you're right.
It's not like this is a place for
picnics.
The movies make picnics.
They do a lot more, you know.
But they're fun.
They're different.
You make the little sandwiches.
I think, I don't know.
But anyway,
I don't know if I even I doubt I even have it anymore, but it was it was really cool.
They had a little straw.
I'm not straw, but it's a little like wicker.
Yeah, the little that your plates sit
on the
wicker thing.
It's just it had everything.
I I and they probably got the little things where you snap them in.
Right.
And a little
handle that carry it.
Yeah.
It was a really cool picnic basket.
Yeah.
I was like, I don't know if they I'm sure they still make them.
I haven't seen it, but they're that's that's a throwback, right?
Yeah, to go on a picnic.
So.
But
I'm just saying I bet I haven't been on an outdoor picnic outside of a picnic table type thing Since I was like eight years old and you know where we would go actually you want to know the greatest place for a picnic within 150 miles of here the shores of Lake Superior Okay, I'm sure Dork County probably has it too, but that used to be fun when you're a kid and your dad would have those old coolers that Wade They're all aluminum and whatever right and you'd have that and he'd have a couple bottles of beer
And we'd have a couple of bottles of pop and mom made sandwiches and a nice, nice pasta salad.
You don't
grill out with picnics.
It's like, it's
the sandwiches and like you said, the pasta salad and maybe some fruit.
Yeah.
That's just a throwback.
It's not charcoal.
It's
right.
Which was marshmallows.
Yes.
And then Brian says a good thing is those baskets come with linens.
They actually do.
They really do.
They
really do.
They really
do.
They really do.
Thanks for pointing that out, Brian.
Yeah.
This
is true.
Yeah, maybe picnic.
We should probably.
Yes, people should go on a picnic.
It's because it's not it's not the same as grilling out.
It's
simple.
Yeah, more simple.
Is that the right word simpler?
I'm not I'm not a huge fan.
I told you this, you know, we I slept in a tent probably every other night growing up outside.
So we had our tents set up all the time.
So we slept outside and Like we'd have our charcoal grill or whatever and
Going to these parks where there's like a lot of people to grill out and sit amongst them.
I'm not into that.
I didn't know
I Know
I that's the beauty of picnics.
It's so contained and I don't kind of sandwiches peanut burr jelly if you like that Not brown sugar that like the ham salad, you know,
yeah, I love that My mom dad make that you get the big hunk of baloney.
Yep
And then you get the pickle and you got the old fashioned.
Are we it'd be hooked up to the
kitchen
table.
Yeah.
And they
would
grind
it
sealer to hold it there.
So I think
onion, maybe.
Yeah.
Oh, that
I would do that today.
I would eat that today.
Those are great sandwiches.
Those are phenomenal sandwiches.
Boy, you know what I had last night?
So dumb always gets me one of my favorite things in the world, siruji's white chocolate.
OK.
For my father's day.
Yeah, okay.
I'll tell you what I'm putting on it.
That is so amazing.
I'm buying that 100% natural peanut butter Okay, it's made purely out of peanuts.
You put that on the white chocolate from Siruji's mind boggling.
I think Yeah, it's not called the Reese's peanut butter
cup.
I whatever you want to call it.
It's fantastic Did you see?
I think it's Nestle's they're coming out with healthy candy bars.
Oh, I don't
I saw it on the news last night, national news.
They're coming out with like healthy or trying to come up with like healthy candy bars now.
We got somebody doing marketing.
If they can make those taste the same, you tell them.
That's
what I'm
just saying.
It's like diet, it's like Bud Light.
Whoever thought your dad or my dad would have drank, what's a light beer?
You're drinking Paps, you're drinking Bosch, you're drinking whatever.
And then all of a sudden somebody says, hey, you know what?
You're not gonna get as chunky with this.
Yeah.
And they've made billions of
dollars.
So, okay, I would be interested in the taste.
Is it out or is it just something they're looking at?
I think that's it's coming out like real soon.
Really?
Okay, really really healthy candy bar healthy candy bars You know why not right and they'll probably they don't taste like chocolate people are
I agree
But even though, okay, so I bought a dark chocolate the other day.
Can't stand it, but it's really good for you.
So I ate it because actually I put that peanut butter on it then too, and some butter.
But the thing is, if they can come up with something like a dark chocolate that's healthy, that tastes like milk chocolate, I think it's gonna be unbelievable.
But
they're doing something, Jim, I'm just telling ya.
I don't know.
Good, healthy chocolate doesn't taste good.
No, it does not.
So what makes you think a healthy candy bar is going to taste good?
I'm going to buy them when they come out.
I'll buy them.
We're going to come here and do a taste test
on the
radio because it is not going to taste like a milk chocolate.
Maybe it will.
Convoy.
Convoy.
What are you doing today?
If they're not
out
yet, don't
send
them.
You're
going out.
You're going to every store you can find and try to find healthy candy bars for
us.
Are you talking like zero sugar candy bars?
Yeah.
They have those out.
They do yeah, they have them in the candy aisle.
Are they
called how are they selling well?
I mean they got
like
they're still there,
you know, they're usually like Hershey's little those little ones, but zero sugar in it or like a butterfinger with zero sugar, too
Okay, so they're already out now then
yeah,
I heard they're flying off the shelves
They I've tried the Hershey's one.
It's not that it's not that good
I mean it comes in here things you can just take over the
show
Turn it off.
Turn it.
Turn it.
Brian says, sorry, I slept in.
Got snarky a little bit late today.
At least you're there, Brian.
Got this one from William.
I was in a Beatles cover band in 1967 playing events for money at the age of 13.
That was the early Beatles.
Exactly, right?
I got a gig this week.
Wow.
All right.
Back after
this.
the bag.
98.
They got some guys at the Rockers that hit 100.
Yeah.
I mean, well, they were even talking about that.
The announcers were talking last night about how in the last 10 years, after all these years of being, you know, it's, it's almost like, you know, they talk about the mile run.
The
four minute mile.
The four minute mile.
He break that.
Nobody can do it.
Nobody can do it.
Nobody
can do it.
23 guys.
And then one guy does it and boom.
Yeah.
It's almost like such a psychological thing, but they were talking about that last college baseball World Series how you never used to see.
No.
I mean, maybe you talk about a Nolan Ryan, you know, or Randy Johnson or, you know, those kind of guys and there are, you know, a few of them.
Every college team has that now.
Yeah.
That's, I don't know what
it is.
What is
it?
I think
it's really psychological.
You think we got better equipment, better training, better not steroids, but like better nutrition and all
that.
I don't know.
I mean, I really, because it does happen.
You're right.
I mean, that's
something that's changed in 20, 25 years.
But on the negative, and we could talk with Mark Houston about that and the brewers
getting
burned out for these elbow
problems,
you know, that happened.
And you almost wonder if the human body, you know, maybe, you know, they evolve
for a little while.
We'll let you do
it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Then you're back.
And your human body isn't built for that on a regular basis.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, there's I mean, that's what I find.
I really do it.
And when Mark comes in here, I would like to sit for two hours and just ask him a whole bunch.
I think sports medicine is so fascinating these days.
What I'd like to talk to him about is, you know, we guys run from the bell and right when they have eight, nine thousand people, you know, what one year, what 18 was was.
But it's not like.
Those kind of runs are tapering off, but you know what's what's growing are these crazy runs these ultra marathon Oh, that 50 mile thing.
I think it's sold out.
I don't I gave up on that couldn't get in I
just You know as the human body built for 50 miles.
I know maybe it
is I don't yeah, I just
not but it's a human arm built to throw consistently at 100 miles an hour and
And these poor young guys, I mean, you know, they get, you know, they're so excited.
I mean, the brewer is with a couple of their guys.
Man, they just...
It's interesting and not, you know, I mean, we both talk about health a lot.
I don't know if we're doing as much as we should, but, you know, at the end of the day, that's really all that matters is your health.
You know, because we talk, we
both have
friends who
are younger than
us that are not great,
you
know.
Anyway, I that's why I don't want to throw pitches at 100 miles an hour.
I don't want to run 50 miles.
I want to take care of my body.
Are you sure?
Hey, I'm telling you, though, that pickleball thing.
I'm going to talk about that some more, man.
I enjoy that down at Oshkosh.
Pickle some
bags.
Yeah, that.
And that's good exercise.
It's not crazy exercise, right?
And it's just, you know, didn't he say in singles, you can only use like.
One half the court.
So it's not like
you're running like tennis is crazy.
And the good thing is to like in tennis 90% of the time you're chasing a ball that went past you or something a roll to a fence and you go run and pick up all the balls.
With this, it seems so much more self-contained that it's you're not wasting time running around.
It's
not ping pong, but it's not tennis.
It's like in between the volleys can go 10.
Yeah.
Yeah.
10 times.
Yeah.
I'm taking that sport up.
Are you?
Yeah.
You were good.
Me yeah,
I'm a natural athlete
What yeah here just try to give him a compliment and he just has to juice to pile it on yeah, yeah, you don't watch him I Did I tell you I was
kind of I thought you yesterday?
What was that?
Well, I thought I was watching a thing with Trey Wingo from ESPN Okay, talk about how sports or me how golf can literally you have to accept it or it'll drive you a little be a little bit insane his first nine He was like three under it's like oh my god
I can do this.
I can do this.
Next thing, eight bogeys and a double bogey in a row.
And then, but then in his last shot of the day, he chipped in for a birdie.
So it's like you go from, I got this down to, this sucks, this sucks, this sucks.
I hate this too.
Oh man, when are we gonna play again?
Is that one shot?
Isn't that the truth?
There's something about
that.
It does, it keeps you in the game.
It just, yeah.
That one shot can make all the difference in the world.
I've never seen a sport like that.
Why isn't bowling kind of like that?
Like,
when you
personally bowl, do you bowl?
No.
Because you can bowl a gutter ball and you can bowl a strike.
It's like, OK, it shouldn't be that.
That shouldn't happen.
You should.
No disrespect, Jim.
I don't think a lot of grown men roll gutter balls.
Just be honest.
I just, I mean, you can't, you think it's wide enough and you just kind of- That's a long ways,
John.
It's a
long ways down there and you get to spin on and it's more complicated than you think.
Really?
Yeah.
I've bowled once in probably 25 years, maybe 30.
I'll bet you we could go bowling and I won't roll a gutter ball.
I'll take you on on that.
Okay.
I'll do that.
Didn't we go
bowling three years ago?
Who did?
You and I. No, we didn't.
didn't we all go bowl at the New Committee shelter thing and I wasn't there.
Oh, because a lot of that was when we
first started that
was like the
first week right.
Yeah.
Oh, you weren't there.
No, I wasn't there.
Yeah, just the old gang was there.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
That wasn't you.
And I'll take you on a bowling
and
I'll do that.
I'm not for the score.
It just said you will bowl, you know, with 10 frames and you
in one of those 10 frames and you can have those bumpers in there, John.
No, no, no.
This is all right.
Yeah, we'll do that.
I'll take you on.
Okay.
Yeah.
And I'll what's the wager?
I don't know, but I'm what I have to do.
Do you have your own ball?
No.
Do you
have your own
shoes?
No, I wouldn't admit if I did.
I think I'll beat you.
I don't.
What was what do you ball 100?
You don't even know how.
I don't know.
I think I
I think I would be, if I was really good, I'd be like a 140.
You're not gonna bowl a 140.
I could bowl a 140.
Okay,
now that's a bat.
Okay.
I'll take.
I'll
take.
I'm bowling a 140.
You
ain't gonna bowl a 140.
Okay, that's fine.
We're gonna set that up.
I'll tie to that when he gets back.
We're doing it.
I'm in.
I'm in.
Okay, good.
I'm in.
I'm in.
Fine.
Okay,
cool.
And then we're playing pickleball.
All right, we committed to it.
All
right, that's
fine.
Con your witness.
Yeah, all right.
Con right, thanks for being here.
Of course.
Con, you're here tomorrow?
You're here tomorrow?
All right, cool.
All week.
That's right.
Yeah.
Do you still do shwabas?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow, all right.
Thanks for being here, Conroy.
Of course.
Thanks for a great lineup of guests.
Everybody back tomorrow, boy.
We'll just look at our lineup.
We got a great list.
It's going to be
good tomorrow.
You want to just rattle some of this off or just let them wait?
We're going to let them wait.
OK.
Because maybe they won't like the people and they won't tune in.
See you tomorrow, everybody.
See ya.
