Fighting Stigma, Building Brotherhood (Hour 2)

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Fighting Stigma, Building Brotherhood (Hour 2)

Maino and the Mayor · Wed Jun 11, 2025

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Help these guys out.

Yeah.

They need it.

Yeah, we do.

We do.

We need a lot of help and a lot of things, but this one too.

So, hey, we have a group in-house here today.

We're real cozy.

We are.

We're cozy in here for a good reason.

As we mentioned earlier in the first hour, that it's Men's Mental Health Awareness Month.

And a lot of this comes down to just

people supporting each other and helping each other and there's an organization here in Greater Green Bay called Brothers Helping Brothers and they're doing the right thing to help men become

the men they want to be and should be.

DeLorean Walls and Jason Wright, you guys are the founders or the leaders in this organization.

You got some other guests with you, so.

Yes, along with Elton and Gofo, he's absent today, but he's one of the

other founders.

All right, we'll tell you what.

Why don't, since you jumped in, why don't you, DeLorean, tell us who's here?

Well, hey, good morning.

First, give an honor to God, who's the head of all of our life, to my beautiful wife and family at home.

I'm just very honored to be in here again.

amongst my good brothers from Brothers Up and Brothers.

We go off Psalms 133, how good and pleasant it is for brothers to dwell together in unity.

And when we mentioned this conversation yesterday at our Tuesday night's meeting, these two gentlemen jumped at the opportunity to just be vulnerable on air.

And I was like, I was so amazed and blessed that brother Zach Boat and brother Jose, how you pronounce it again?

I know your last iPhone.

Magic code.

You're getting closer to the mic.

Magic code.

He spelled it for me, but I wrote it the way I say it.

So I got it done.

I got to make magic code.

Magic code.

So, you know, Jason and I, we, and Brother Elton, man, it was just, it was just one of those things where we knew June was going to be one of those months.

I'm looking down because I have to...

do this in remembrance of all the men that's out there that suffer from this, this lost conversation where it's over a half a million men lose their life, close to half a million men lose their life every year to suicide.

It's almost 1,100 men a day.

I was actually sharing some of

those numbers this morning.

It's almost one a minute.

It's almost one a minute.

56 an hour.

56 an hour.

And we brought it up yesterday.

It's just,

Just imagine if you just had one simple conversation about hey man, how are you doing or how was your week?

Right and this is how this started this is how this started and We've been very fortunate now.

We have a Another group that we started for the non smokers for everybody know we go to prohibition cigar lounge every Tuesday We love cigars.

You know

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we

have our own cigar brand shout out to grandiose shot out the

grandiose

session Brother Elton go for cigar brand, but you know there is a there is a need

And there's a lot of men that wanted to express themselves, but this couldn't handle the cigar smoke.

So we started at the terrace room at Bistro Buchanan last Monday.

And this past Monday, we actually had our first interaction with a teenager, high school teenager, going

to be a

junior.

He came and he expressed his story.

And his father's Damian Doren, who's been on the campaign for, we put the Brown and Brown County and I'm so.

Proud of that, as you can see, our man's group influx a combination of every color.

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And

so I like that phrase.

We said, we put the brown to brown counter because I used to be one of those kids that colored every crayon together.

And if you did that, you got the color brown.

But I just want to just thank these two.

for being here and being a great support.

We're doing our first ever retreat over at Primal Eats in Gillett, Wisconsin this Friday and Saturday.

They have blessed us with a beautiful campsite, nice cabin.

And we're going to- The amazing food.

Yes, yes, yes.

And so, you know, we're going to just get back to the, as Jason said, the little boy in us, and

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we're just going

to go have some fun out here in the woods.

But before I pass it over to these guys, Jason, you want to-

say anything and tell them what they mean to us.

I just want them to know how much they mean to us and we mean to each other.

If they didn't know, they know now where we at right now and talking about men's mental health.

These two young men here is the forefront of what we set out to do.

To be here talking about men's mental health, it takes a lot because a lot of people look at this and really don't understand the significance of men's mental health and how important it is.

to focus on that.

Everything in life, for myself that I've seen, I've changed around and put mental health at the forefront.

They say, it's God, man, then your wife.

It's God, mental health, me, then my wife.

Put at the forefront of it, then the kids, and so on, my brother's family, everybody else after that.

But it's really important, and for y'all to be the age that y'all is talking about, it just says where y'all at in life, and how important it is for us to change this.

You know, we said back in...

God used us to create brothers helping brothers.

And we just said we want to help other people.

We feel this good about it.

If we were able to get over this, one of our friends committed suicide.

How can we do this for others?

The only way you can keep something is to give it away.

You know, and we've been given in a way.

So I'm pleased to have y'all two here.

We've been here.

We know the significance of the radio show and how important it is to our community.

But this men's mental health is very important.

And this is a call out to everybody in our city to focus on this every man.

Every woman, every child, if you get a chance, because you had a 16-year-old really talking about what's bothering them.

And the thing that I love the most is when we're in the groups and we ask our brothers, how was your week?

It's sincere.

They see it, they feel it, they touch it, and to see them come back two weeks, a week later, and have a success story, because they put in the initiative to start focusing on it.

And this is an example.

He's been two weeks, Joseon.

First week he came, and then the second week it was like...

You can go ahead.

Yeah, so.

Jose, get a little closer to the mic.

And Jose, just

like I don't want to pick on you.

You're a young kid.

Yeah.

I mean, and you're at Ballon.

Yeah.

Learning nursing, but.

Todd, you can affiliate with this.

And I know these guys spoke very highly of you.

Yeah, so... Wait, who are you?

We do that in group, too.

If you kind of start talking

and

don't introduce yourself, you'll

be like,

who are you?

That's a Carnegie thing, man.

You got to say your name first.

Yeah, so my name's Jose.

I'm actually pretty new to this brother's helping brother's thing, and...

I mean, I'm so thankful for just being a part of this group.

Last week was my first week ever attending a meeting, and it was eye-opening to say the least.

I'm like the amount of support that's still there.

Just because I know we talked about this in yesterday's meeting, but it's sometimes hard for guys to really reach out to someone.

it's like there's a stigma almost to it.

And like, yeah, I'm in nursing school, right?

But what I learn at nursing school is different from what I actually apply sometimes.

So like, yeah, it's important to take care of your mental health, but just because I learned about that in school doesn't mean I like learned about it, you know?

And being able to like reach out to these brothers of mine and like really

get deep and talk about like my problems that I've had.

It's different.

It's really nice because last week I came in on a friend's recommendation and I mean I really wanted the support.

I had a few things that happened and just having their advice on like not just like life advice but how to

move forward is huge because that's something not a lot of guys really have is guidance, if you will, which is

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what

I really like about this group too.

We guide each other through and like, even though I'm young, I can still help guide all these people around one way or another.

That's awesome.

How old

are you?

I'm 21.

Okay.

I mean, that's great that I want to know you said a friend's recommendation.

I mean, just to get affiliated with this group is a blessing in and of itself.

Yes.

And tell me how that worked.

Did you hear about it, read about it?

So I was actually talking to one of my buddies from my college that I forget what we were doing, but he was like, hey, man, I think you really need to go to this meeting.

Wow, what a friend.

That's awesome.

Yeah, that's how it started.

He is like I really think you need to go to this meeting sounds like you could use the support and I sat on it for like a few weeks, too I didn't I didn't go for

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a few weeks

and I Just decided you know what I'm going

We got a really good text This is great.

Do you think the decline in men's social groups like lodges and bowling league stuff like that played a part into?

men's mental health,

the connection,

the connection,

right?

Socialization.

Of course, because the, um, um, um, I think it's the dresser's, um, theory of, of not just a man, but just of what you need as a social norm to feel like you are wanted.

And I believe that the decline in those type of genuine social groups and intentional social groups, especially in men,

uh, um, has played a major part because when to me and not trying to get so political and things like that, but I have to really speak the truth on it all is there's so many forces out there that's trying to divide us all trying to divide us in everything and, and, and not really showing that we are really all the same.

We're really all together.

And, and, you know, one of our main focuses with brothers and brothers was to say, we're going to welcome.

Every man of every walk of life or every economical Demographical background to say hey you be long you are part of something bigger than just ourselves and and and and that's what we was Attending to do that's what we're attending to do.

So and COVID didn't help.

No, no that really

separated things some of these organizations fell apart Yeah,

some of the social organizations and

you know, we've talked about this on

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the

show not not not enough but

When you talk about living a healthy life everybody's know that the pictures of the you know eating and exercising but Socialization is way way up there on living a quality life way way You look at these blue zones, you know where they take the healthiest people in the world and

yes

That is

that's right

up there is

the

fact that they they talk with each other

and I

think that's

and and the thing is we got I know we got one minute and the thing is We don't just meet on Mondays and Tuesdays our

relationships that we have built with one another, it spans outside of our group.

So we can pick up the phone at any given moment and talk to one another.

If there's something that, hey, we all gonna meet up, we can cook out, we can hang out, we do these things to uplift each other, just not just on Mondays and Tuesdays.

So it's like a obligation towards one another that we have to make sure we check in.

That's fantastic.

This is good

stuff.

Go ahead.

We're gonna be going to a break, but hey, we're gonna get back here because,

Zach, we're gonna hear from you as well on your story.

Big subject, not a lot of time, but we're gonna get to as much as we can.

Stick around, we're gonna be right back.

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great song but even better guests

we're

talking about a uh the subject here this men's mental health month and that's that's in june um and an awareness and we are kind of talking that you know and you've seen this happen before we're a how you doing and it's like man i'm i'm kind of hurting and they go on oh yeah how about that game they don't even hear the fact that the person that responding is like

I'm hurting right now.

They don't hear it, you know,

because

guys aren't supposed to, I don't know, whatever

it

is.

I want to, I just, I mentioned it this morning and I never thought I would do this.

And I think the Lorian, I told you this, I will, I'll never share my personal story on the air, but I did this morning.

Because I've been, I've been, I've been, I've been saying a lot.

Hey, I'm at the, I'm at the edge guys, like I'm really there.

And everybody says, take a deep breath, you'll be good.

Get

over

it.

And I don't know that anything hurts more than hearing that.

It's been very painful because I'm always trying to be there for other people, right?

And the people that I'm typically there for have said that to me.

You know?

No, I need more.

I need something.

How are you doing?

I'm good.

I

want to hear Zach's story.

I brought that up last night.

We have to, just what you said, Todd, we always have to.

Tuck everything in and like that's what man was talking to do.

Yeah, we can't be vulnerable and we

hug in the group man.

We talk we cry we Everything we go against everything.

They said men should not be because naturally all men are mama's boys.

Oh, yeah, you know, so ready you want to say it or not?

Absolutely, man, I'm we all have emotions, you know that they put the

the status of a woman and how emotional a woman is.

But to be honest with you, a man is equal.

I'm not even emotional as a woman.

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But how do we supposed

to regulate that?

We're taught to tuck that in.

So that's why in group, I always challenged all of us, including myself, because I did it and it worked, to get back to the little boy in you.

Because if you start there, trauma starts in childhood.

So if you start there and have a conversation and forgive yourself as that little boy and work your way back to the present day, you'll be an amazing man.

Zach start talking if I start crying y'all

very inspirational very

inspiration

is

that you know cheer story

all right I'm Zach both others to do a formal introduction because that's how we do it at group I've been going to brothers helping brothers now for about two years it's been detrimental and kind of like what Jason was saying you know it starts with a little boy and you know you go through trauma and you go through

lot of crazy things and you don't realize that it starts to build up the depression and like I lost my mom at a very young age to a horrific event but you know I'd like to say that it makes you it doesn't break you but in reality it breaks you slowly.

and you start to go through the things and then you go through your adulthood you have kids and then the things start to come back and then in a sense they kind of haunt you if you don't you know figure out what is causing all that pain and then you make a rational decisions and do things that are you know

Unfit for society, which they are and then you learn and sometimes you are you get separated from your kids for a little bit and then you come back and then you get that time to yourself to really rejoice and reintegrate back into the community and Start to deal with that trauma and brothers helping brothers has been a remarkable part of that and the reason why it's able you're able to express yourself personally from my point of view is

When you come there, your first week, your second week, some people maybe even your first month, you just sit back and listen.

But there's so many different people from different walks of life that allow you to open up because now you can relate.

Now you're like, okay.

with that person said they don't even realize what they said but now you're thinking in the back of your head like this is how i can apply this to this and it may be two completely different scenarios but now you have an understanding and now you can relate so now when you can relate now you're allowed to you allow yourself to open up and you know i'm not knocking any other counselors or anything like that because there's a different way for everybody but you know i was in counseling when i was very little my mom was very adamant on that so that helped out a lot

But you don't get that personal relationship.

I didn't get that personal relationship some people do I didn't get that personal relationship being able to open up like you're able to at group because You feel like they can't relate or they're not understanding or oh, they're just getting paid to do this They're they're forced to be here.

So now you're forced to be there and at brothers heaven brothers It's a it's you know your own open It's your free will you're not no one's forcing you to go there.

No one's forcing you to do this and that's what that's what I feel is a

extremely detrimental, just being able to open up and just have the comparison.

And then when you're not there, you can reach out, you can talk to each other, we exchange information.

We're there for each other, we talk about our problems.

And our joys.

Yes, the problems and the joys.

We have lots of laughs and stuff like that.

And then we have the retreat going on, so that'll bring a lot more joy.

And yeah.

Zach, how did you get affiliated with this?

Kudos to your mom for putting you in counseling.

I mean, I think parents tend to do that,

and that's

a great thing.

But how did you get in with this organization?

I've known DeLorean for, I don't know.

When I got

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when

I got back home when I when I when I got out of prison There you go.

I got back home.

I was in prison for two years Marijuana When I got back home to learn it's like hey, you should try this out.

I was like, oh, okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well that about I don't know

Three weeks later, I finally got around to it.

I'm like, oh, it's that prohibition?

Okay, I've been wanting to go there so that we so that I went there and then yeah, it was something unbelievable Definitely something I didn't expect it to be I guess that's a judgment.

That's awesome.

Hey DeLorean.

I just

Mention this retreat real quick and I'm good.

We did another guest command.

I wish I would have

Yes, we're

tell me about that real quick.

You know, this is our first Brother seven brothers men's retreat.

We're gonna do it at a primal eats in and deal at Wisconsin, right?

We're gonna do some camping.

We're gonna do some fishing and we're gonna do some bonfires And we're gonna do some

contact info like a website or phone number.

Yes

Well, if you want to reach out to Brothers Up and Brothers on Facebook or any one of our telephone numbers, I'll have you, you can put it in the email, wherever.

We'll put something on our website.

Yeah, put something out there, so.

All

right, you guys, thanks for coming

in.

Thank you.

Any

time.

Real

quick.

I

appreciate that.

Congratulations to you two guys.

Thanks.

Yeah, that's nice of you guys to be here.

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I just really want to thank the people from the

that whole men's mental health awareness is so important and of course the brothers helping brothers what a great organization they've got a retreat coming up and we'll have that all on our website that you can take a look at but um i'm gonna get those guys back here that's that's very important as we said you know we lose you know a man almost every every 60 57 an hour which is unbelievable um

Great guests and and of course we

got another one.

Oh, we got a great guest coming in now this guy.

We don't mess around with this guy Si we've had you on here before you are Young man from Green Bay a Golden Glove boxer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I just don't you know, I'm glad you're on that side of the table

I don't

mess with this guy And when you're on here last time we're very excited for you because you were leaving here and I think

two, three weeks later, going to Madison to compete.

And you had a setback.

So tell us about that, and let's get on.

Then we'll get to where you are today.

No.

Yeah, I was going to go to Golden Globes.

Not Nationals.

I was going to fight at Madison to make the team.

I didn't go to Nationals, Golden Globes.

The week before the fight, I was just training, hitting the bag.

And when I punched it, I felt something off.

I took my gloves off, my hand wraps off.

When I seen, I thought it was broken because my hand was just swollen.

It was purple, black.

So when I went to the hospital that same day, they said I had a boxer fracture.

Then I went in the next day and they said I popped a blood vessel.

So they said I couldn't, I asked them, I was like, can I still go fight?

And the doctor was like, no.

And

I just asked again.

I was like, hey, can I just go?

Like, is there any way like it'll be healed?

And I was like, it's gonna take about a month and a half to just heal until this day still hurts.

But I just got back into it like a couple of weeks ago, two weeks ago.

So what did you do

during that off time?

Were you?

I was still running.

I was running a lot, but more like no boxing.

It was hard.

No boxing, just running and doing other things.

But it was tough.

It broke me down, because I was like, so many people was counting on me.

I was, yeah, so it hurt, but just a step back.

But

it's good you went through that though.

I

mean, it's gonna make you, I think it would make you a little bit stronger and know that.

No, yeah, it showed me that anything can happen.

You never know what's gonna happen.

So I was prepared, mentally prepared.

I was on weight a week before I lost 30 pounds in that whole training camp.

I was 160, went down to 132, so it was tough.

And then for that to happen like the week before, I was like, man.

Now your dad is your trainer.

Yeah.

And

still your trainer, I remember

seeing him a few months ago.

Yeah,

yeah, yeah.

Still my trainer, yeah, yeah.

All right.

So you're good?

I mean, you don't have to explain too much of your hand because you

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were nice

enough to send me a picture and then I didn't eat for a few hours.

I mean.

That's amazing that you did that damage hitting a bag which you do, you've been doing for years.

Every day and I had hand reps on and I broke this hand.

I don't know if you can tell my pinky.

I broke this like six times.

So my dad always tells me when I train, wear like big gloves.

So I wear 18 ounce gloves.

I was hitting the bag and I didn't even punch the bag hard.

It was just a little like tap.

Really?

It was just waiting

for you.

Yeah, it just felt like a beam stung me.

And I punched it again, and I'm like, oh yeah, that's not right.

So it happened just naturally.

So are you at 100% 90?

Where are you at with you?

Man, I'm like 80% right now.

Yeah, my hand still hurts.

If I tap on something, it'll hurt.

I can close it, I can punch, but I just can't do nothing.

So when's your next competition?

Is that coming

up?

So right now, I was talking to my dad.

We talking about I'm done with the amateurs.

I feel like I did, you know, what I had to do in the amateurs.

I feel like I'm ready for the pros.

So, yeah, we were talking.

He wants me to give it more time on my hand, keep training.

And we don't know what date yet, probably August, September.

This year, for sure, I'll make my pro debut.

And what's the process for that?

I mean, the press, because

that

covered you.

I mean, you've been you've gotten some media.

I mean, people

And I can see where you felt kind of bad.

You didn't make it because

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everybody

had these high expectations.

But look, that's no fault of your own.

So to get it to Pro, it must be more than signing up.

Yeah, yeah.

Anybody could sign up, but you're not going to go nowhere, really.

You got to have recognition.

You got to have your name out there.

So right now, I'm really looking.

I've been talking to some promoters.

They want me to fight down in Milwaukee.

others promoters I've been trying to like you know talk to my dad been talking he takes care of all that right um oh so I got a little sponsorship I got um my friend's clothing brand of his sponsorship or water rich I got um this new aesthetics she does like t-pointing helps with like recovering and all that so I'm trying to get like more

As much as I can.

So

Milwaukee, September, in Milwaukee, September, October, August,

September,

you're going to go down there and you're going to fight.

And if you win, then does that puts you in that class?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm a professional and just keep working yourself up.

You got to just fight good competition.

Have your name out there.

Have good.

It's all about good connections in boxing.

If you don't got no connections, right?

I don't know.

Kind of like anything though.

I mean, really, it's just connections are a lot

of connections.

And who's your dream to fight against?

Man, well, I could call a couple people out.

Right now, since Amateur, I've been seeing him fight.

He professional right now.

He signed with Floyd Mayweather, Carmell Moyne.

I don't know if you guys know who that is, but I want... There it is.

All right.

I want him.

That's

awesome.

This is your livelihood.

This is it.

I mean, do you work somewhere or do you...?

Yeah, I work at Baytow.

They help me out a lot in my boxing.

So whenever I need time off or I need time to go to nationals, they always hook me up with the hours and all that.

And they're very flexible with my training tools.

They got

a few bucks, get them to be a sponsor.

Those guys are good guys.

They tell us they have a great,

great employee here.

The best job I've ever had.

That's good company you're working for.

When did you start all this?

My boxing?

Yeah.

When I was three years old, at a garage, I was training in the garage.

There was never a boxing gym here in Green Bay, except juniors, but they closed down.

But it was always me, my brother, and my dad just trained in the little garage, boxing bag, that's it.

That's amazing.

Did

your

brother pursue the career?

Yeah, yeah, he saw my brother's pro.

He's 2-0 right now.

Really?

He's training.

Yeah, he's gonna fight.

I don't know what date, but yeah, he's fighting, yeah.

Wow.

Yeah, my brother's already, he started his pro career, he's 22, so.

So, where's your mom with all this?

Has she seen

her sons get kind of... Yeah, my mom, now she's more cool with it, but man, in the beginning, I don't want you doing that boxing.

Yeah, nobody wants... Boxing's dangerous, there's boxes that get like, you know, like, brain dead.

Oh, the concussions... Right, lots of... One punch can change, you could get killed in the ring, you know, so very...

You gotta be careful with it.

Didn't deter you.

Yeah, nah.

I love this sport.

I feel like I'm meant for it.

You know, this is all I knew since I was little.

Yeah, so.

Wow.

Did your dad box?

Yeah, he boxed in Puerto Rico.

Never professional, but he always boxed.

He said that he always looked training, but he just couldn't pursue it.

He didn't have people to help him out, like that

motivation.

Connections.

How old are you?

I'm

19.

Okay, is that a thing, like boxing, right?

I mean, like a lot of us might be in different sports, band, theater or something.

Is there a lot of boxing you went to East, right?

No problem.

Oh, it's a problem.

All right.

Do you have friends that box or are you kind of a star out there?

The only one, like there's people that like, I didn't try to be like, but there's people that claim they're a boxer, but they're not.

Never.

until they run into you.

Yeah, they never fight.

I feel like, man, if you want to declare yourself as a boxer, you at least need 10 amateur fights.

That's my 10 amateur fights.

And you need to have the shorts.

Like, if

you

don't have the shorts, you can't claim it.

Yeah, like, you got to at least have a couple amateur fights.

You know, I got over, like, 60 fights, so.

That's impressive.

Yeah, you got to at least...

So, at 19, I mean, you're...

You don't eat Big Macs.

I mean, what do you do?

Is your diet different?

Do you live a different lifestyle?

Or is this just

something you do on the side?

No, no, no, you're all in.

No, this I'm all in.

Right.

I know.

I always tell people, before I had my job, I was like boxing is my job.

That's mine.

I wake up five in the morning, run, train.

Really?

Every day.

Yeah, every day.

Monday through Saturday, I'll train my boxing.

I'll run.

Sundays, I do strength training.

Yeah,

so.

But

the hardest thing is to die.

So I lose like training camp.

I shouldn't be saying this, but I lose around like 30 pounds in like a month, a month and a half.

Please share your

secrets.

Yeah,

really.

You write a book and make a side

hustle.

Well,

Chris, I think if

any of us got up at five in the morning and ran, I

think that would

be a good start.

And

I

don't think most of our, well, I can only speak for myself.

I

would answer me.

What I learned, like my dad.

We just learned from this doctor that training doesn't help you lose weight.

It's what you eat.

Right.

So, because I used to train hard, but eat bad.

And then I'll be like losing, but going up.

But my dad was like, man, if you don't train and you just eat good, you'll lose weight.

So it's all about what you eat, what you got.

So this guy that brought us these turnovers, that wouldn't...

You can't eat this.

There's sweet rolls with all this jelly and

stuff in there.

Right now, like I said, I'm not in no diet.

I don't got no training caps.

OK, so now you can get off.

I'm like, yeah, it's like boxing is all about when you got to fight, lock in, lose the weight.

But then I hurt my hands, so now I'm just recovering.

My body, I focus more on recovering.

I'm like 165 right now.

I was just 132, so I gained all that weight

right back.

Do you do your own cooking when you're in training?

I'll talk about your training.

That's that's pretty strict Your dad cook do you cook or

yeah, my dad sometimes he comes home from work He'll cook us a meal.

I like what the protein boy does egg steak shrimp cheese Avocado like it's like a big protein meal or sometimes me after work.

I'll train at my house.

I got my little like Garage right there.

Yeah, go upstairs cook me some eggs some bacon.

Yeah some chicken breasts

Yes

So you're... Do you ever hear this song?

Yeah.

I mean it's...

Do you have like a song that you

can choose?

Yeah, what's your

what's your pump up?

What's

your

the play into like they're gonna introduce you and

see

if mine was here You give you this

great

introduction.

I can't do that stuff.

He you know, it's crazy.

Yeah, I don't know yet I've been thinking about what song I want to walk out, right?

You don't

want it to be soft

pick the right

song

All

right, we're gonna be right back.

Thank you.

Sorry.

This is awesome.

Yeah, you're right

back.

This is Shannon

in the mail.

We're right back

Kathryn Lake

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Now back to Shannon and the mayor.

Now along with Psy.

Yes.

Maldonado.

Maldonado.

Maldonado, yeah.

Maldonado.

Maldonado.

Maldonado.

You almost got it.

I'll just call you Psy.

I think that's a good choice.

Psy, you're an impressive kid.

19 years old, you came from Puerto Rico here when you were a young kid, and you, at three years old,

kind of picked up the gloves.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, since little, the reason we started picking the gloves, me and my brother, we will always fight.

Yeah.

Kathryn Lake

And

my

dad said

that my brother, he had a good left hook to the body.

And since he's seen that, he was like, yeah, these kids can be boxers.

All right.

That's cool.

Yeah.

My dad, since little kids, he'll have like, he bought a WWE belt at Walmart, and he'll have me and my brother fight for it, and he'll choose the winner at the end.

Well, that's right.

That's how it starts.

I love it.

Thanks.

You brought a couple trophies

in, and I

said to him, you know,

You said you have like 30 of these sitting on your shelves at home.

Yeah, yeah, I got a whole bunch of trophies.

He was supposed

to bring in a belt.

I was gonna bring in all my belts, but I was like, that's probably a little too much.

No, no, no.

We were not too shy about bragging on this show.

So tell me, outstanding boxer, do you remember if you got 30 of me, maybe you don't remember where they're all from?

Do you know where either of these were from?

No, I think that was the Marshfield.

It says it in the front.

This one.

Oh, Marshfield.

OK,

you're right.

The Marshfield Show.

So I don't know about the Outstanding Boxer.

It's just a test.

I don't remember at all.

So it probably recently, though, like a couple of years ago.

That's awesome.

So a good problem to have to not.

Oh, I just got so many trophies.

I don't remember.

30 of them?

Yeah.

So tell me you hurt your hand.

You're going to go down to Madison, do a Golden Globes thing.

And you couldn't

do that

because of your hand.

It's 80% there.

You're going to go pro this year.

Yeah.

And tell me what that looks like.

So you're going to train.

When do you get back into serious, serious training?

Because

right now you said you're kind of off the

reserve.

You're kind of cheating a little

bit.

Yeah.

I'm thinking about even starting next week.

This week I already started as Bard.

Last week, she tested my hands, so I sparred.

But next week, for sure, I'm going to start on my dieting.

I already started eating clean, still eating here and there.

But I'm eating more clean, training more, so I'm trying to get back as soon as I can.

So

who are you training with?

Is your dad sparred with you?

No, no, my dad.

He's too

old.

How old is your dad?

He's 40.

Oh my god.

Ancient.

That even hurts me.

He's OK.

Wow.

Well, he, he recently tried to spar with us like last year, but we, uh, I think we gave them a concussion accident.

So he just stops.

Good idea.

Probably good

choice.

Are

you sparring with your brother?

Me and my brother, we spar, but we also go to gym down and all night is like 30 minutes away.

Okay.

We spar against them people or sometimes we go to Milwaukee and spar things like that.

So when you go pro.

Are you gonna think about coming back to Green Bay and making a gym?

Yeah, I want that.

I'm gonna stay in Green Bay for a while, but once like my pro career shoots up, I gotta leave.

But Green Bay is always

gonna be home, correct?

Man, don't forget about it.

Family's always here.

Like I said, there's no boxing, there's MMA gym, but that's different.

There's, you know, but no boxing gym is what we need here.

And that's not something they

had at Preble.

No, no, it was I talked to the principal's before so they should make like a boxing

they were like absolutely

I think like I'm talking like 60 70 yeah things to do I mean everything's football back what they have so many other options out there, but that they didn't give you the green light unboxing No, no,

did you do any other sports?

No,

no, it was I try to do football I like football, but

I try to do it in middle school and high school, but my dad was like, nah.

But with boxing,

no, maybe hockey would have been something too, because those guys still

do.

They be fighting, yeah.

They take the gloves

off, man.

It's something else.

This is

impressive to watch you.

I mean,

Kathryn Lake

we

don't have a lot, a lot of boxers in this community.

We have some great athletes.

We have some great artists, musicians in this area, but it's going to be fun to watch you.

And when do you think if you go pro?

Not

if when what you are probably that's sure you're going pro.

There's this one The first step in that is getting a pretty good agent.

Is that

what you're looking for right now?

Pretty decent one.

Yeah Because those are the people that find you to fight those are the people that get your name out there.

Yeah, those are the people that

it

Just

didn't talk in with you.

You have no reservations about you have no like, no, this is what I really want to do This is

this is it now.

Yeah, my Boston is I was told everybody man

Boxing is like, it's all or nothing.

But I'm pretty like, I'm 100% confident I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna be someone.

That's most important.

I sense that.

I'm not, oh, what if it doesn't work?

No, I'm all in.

I'm all in.

I'm proud of you, I

think that's gonna be great.

It's fun to watch you.

I told her, nobody's gonna take my dreams away from what I wanna do.

Boxing helped me in dark days.

Right.

And you said

it's like a mental health

thing too for you.

Stress

reliever, whatever.

Stress reliever, yeah, when I'm feeling down sadder.

Do people like invest in boxers?

Like if I, let's say not I, but if somebody gave you money, then they would.

Yeah, yeah, people, that's what a promoter really is, is investing in you.

They, um... Okay.

When you get him, you

come and give us a call.

They'll

probably, they'd be like, oh, like...

For like four fights will pay you 50 grand and then you got to fight for them four times,

right?

Jim's just trying to get some cash

out Thanks for bringing in the trophies,

you

know, good

luck

to you.

We'll get you back here because

we follow

you I think you you've got the confidence to take it places.

So

thanks for

being here site.

Good luck to you Pro Boxer right here out of Green Bay, Wisconsin Preble High School.

We'll be right back.

It's just Shannon in the mirror.

Thank you

The

Kathryn Lake

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