Music & D-Day (Hour 3)

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Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And here are your hosts John Minow and Jim Smith.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back Minow and the Merriman.

That was great having Big Daddy D and Kevin Van Asen here, wasn't it?

And all

these

donuts.

I cannot believe

that you were such a jerk.

Right?

I mentioned his shirt being inside out.

They're customers, John.

Okay.

Let me just say this.

Customers always right.

I mean, even when they're wrong, they're right.

Out of everybody in the studio.

You were doing that, right?

Yeah.

A guy came in today, little, you know.

Well, there was a morning you had like spaghetti on your pants.

Remember

that?

On his pants.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

On his pants.

That was quick breakfast.

And I didn't say

anything.

Yeah, John did.

But the guy came in and we was talking like, we're going to be talking in just a second.

Do you know how you're doing?

And he goes, um.

We all late last night.

Did you drink a lot last night?

Who hasn't drank in like 20 years?

His shirt was inside out and

John pointed it out on the radio His wife texted in

because she was

all mad at him too, so he's gonna have

a hell of a hell of

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a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell

Because I have gone in with my shirts inside out.

I'm sure

you work together.

He wasn't.

OK, anyway, hey, those were two musicians, right?

Daddy D's and Kevin Vaness.

And here we got the 13th annual Appleton Street Music Week.

We love music.

And I think it's great that we elevate the music.

And

so

impressed with what Appleton does with music.

Oh, man, you guys got it going on there.

Linda Garvey and Leah Reed.

Leah, you're quite the musician.

I mean, I was, yeah, until I started working at Hyde and everybody there is extremely talented.

It was right when you surround yourself with like, oh, I thought it was a little better than that, but yeah.

It's okay.

I do karaoke.

I do, all right.

Tell me, and Linda as well, tell us about this event.

Yeah, so I am with the Appleton Community Music.

So we have the pleasure of working with Hyde this year, being the beneficiary of their profits.

Tell us about the event.

It's kicking off and how it all works and where the money goes

So Appleton community music is the nonprofit that supports my love music.

We take care of the artist lodging hospitality Everything to do with the artist.

We take care of their pay So we work with donations,

okay, and how many just how many artists are we talking?

And

I just want to underscore that that is all

local, original, not local, but it's all original music.

It is, handcrafted music.

So that's the beauty of Mylon music is that you come to admire the craft.

You're not there to party, although that's the side effect.

It does.

Because the vibe.

Yeah, but you're there to admire the craft for the artists and what they've been able to accomplish.

The connection with Spokane, I like Spokane.

Are you from there?

What's the connection that's your sister city to Spokane when it comes to this music festival?

Yeah, so that was started in 2002 where they wanted to support their local food bank.

So actually, Audrey Noock from Hyde Music started it in 2012, wanted to do that downtown.

And we've worked with Feeding America and stuff like that.

But we just thought this year it made sense to work with Appleton Community Music because we're tying that together.

And our tagline this year is United by the Beat.

So

Milo Music feels kind of like a family reunion for us at Hyde.

because we're seeing people that we're friends with and we really connect with them.

You're seeing your musical cousins, I guess.

We're talking about

runners with Belvin coming up, the run coming up.

They're all family, no matter what they see

each

other, once a year, whatever.

Musicians are the same way, aren't they?

Absolutely.

Very supportive.

We love the art.

Tell me about the event though.

We're going to get to where we're going to donate because I think every, that amount of music is really taken off.

I mean, that's unbelievable.

It's amazing.

It's what 13?

No, it's longer than

that.

Yeah.

We're on mile 12 minus a year.

So 13 years.

13.

Oh,

yeah.

It's bigger and bigger all the time.

And it's just, people just love that.

But we're raising money for that event.

So how do we.

get involved.

So Monday through Friday next week all along College Avenue there will be musicians playing from 12 to 1 so they'll be busking.

Anybody can play and participate and people can come and listen to which is a pretty amazing thing.

They'll have buckets there that you can donate in or you can bring in money to hide music and 100% of it goes to Appleton Community Music.

So are you basically saying that those two individuals that you're sitting with right now could come to town?

They could.

Busk for a few hours, make some cash.

Just one hour.

Like, it's

during the lunch hour.

We'll be the only ones that have a hard

ending.

But either walk with lunch, walk around, and just listen to... That's like cool stuff, right?

That's big city stuff when there's just a musician playing, and they usually keep the money, but you guys are gonna... We're still gonna drop $5, $10 in there, and then it's gonna go to...

A great, great cause.

Yeah,

Alpine Community Music, correct.

And we're working really closely with ADI.

They're really helping facilitate this, allowing the power to be used downtown.

And we really appreciate their partnership as well.

Yeah, for

anybody that hasn't been to Mile Music, remember one time, a couple of times, introducing bands.

And the first time, you know, you're walking around, you know, there's a lot of people.

But once you go up on stage and you look, it's like, oh, it was intimidating.

I'm not joking.

Yeah.

It's unbelievable.

I mean, there's like a mile of people at some of those

stages.

I would give a shout out to ADI too.

They've been on our show.

And that's a small group that works really, really, really hard.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

The Appleton downtown.

Yeah, absolutely.

We had

them on.

They were great.

They were great.

All right.

So this is next week already.

Correct.

It starts on Monday.

The full week.

Yes.

This is a great time of year.

I love

this

time of

year.

I love it.

Especially working in downtown Appleton.

Absolutely.

It schools up.

But you almost feel like.

Not that works out, but there's just more stuff to do around.

We just had Kevin Vanessa in here.

He's playing at Jackson Square.

More music during the lunch hour.

So can you name any of the musicians or do they sign up?

How does this work to get the talent?

We have some listed on our website right now, so if people go to hidemusic.com under events, they'll be able to see everybody that will be playing at Houdini Plaza, so go ahead and check out our website.

I don't remember it off the top of my head, I apologize.

But we also have just a lot of people that show up, so you don't have to sign up or anything.

You just come at 11.30, grab a bucket, and we'll get you set up.

That's really cool, because the money that they get, again, I just want to say that's...

If somebody's like, oh, I'm gonna go, you know, shake down 50, 80 bucks this morning.

That goes, it all goes to you, as it should.

And that money goes to.

Support all the artists that come from Isle of Music.

Wow.

That's awesome.

That's awesome.

That's a

great way to do

it.

I just want

to know, can I, like if I just

come out on the street.

That's the only instrument.

What's that called again?

Vibrous

lap.

Vibrous

lap.

So.

Do

you

really could?

Sure.

If they could drop a penny in.

That

would be

awesome.

Ask me for

change,

yeah.

Well, he is really encouraging here.

We support performance arts, who I guess.

I don't know.

If we're racing,

maybe.

If

you were one of those guys where you'd have the little box, I don't think you'd be playing that on the street.

College Avenue, hoping people would drop in a few bucks.

They'd just be like, where's the monkey?

I

would give you a dollar.

99 more than I

would.

Leah, tell me about your music background, how you got into it, how you stayed in it.

I actually started in church when I was younger and was in choir for many years and played piano since I was about seven.

So I've always been connected to the music community.

And when I saw the opportunity at Hyde, I'm the director of marketing and e-commerce.

It just really blended together.

My kids are all musicians and their dad is a musician.

So.

It's

awesome.

Yeah.

What a great thing.

It's for a lot of reasons.

I mean, they're...

that side of the brain and they can still, there's so many of these doctors and music, that's just a great thing.

The guy across the street, you're looking at Shriver, the president of that place who is extremely well, great bass player.

There's just a lot of musicians who haven't really taken the musician route, but they're very successful in business and government, wherever.

How about...

Do you have a background, Linda, in music or what's your connection?

I don't have a background in music.

I was in drum corps when I was younger.

Close enough.

But, you know, in the flight squad.

I am on the other side of

it.

I love drum corps.

We had one up in my hometown area issuing the body notes.

They were like, oh my goodness.

That's

good stuff.

And I told Jim, I said there was a thing from our Centennial.

A guy put this old website from 1965 and he had an old

film.

And I'm watching that from, and it's like, I've never seen anything.

He didn't appreciate it at the time.

So precise.

Like even when they go around a corner, it was like so synchronized.

It's like incredible what you people do.

It's a lot of work.

A lot of practice.

Drum lines,

all that stuff.

It's

unbelievable how hard those kids practice.

So, but I enjoy being on the other side of the stage in the audience and admiring the talent.

It's unbelievable.

Are you with Hilton?

I am.

I'm with the Hilton.

She's

got a

shirt on the right way.

Appleton, Paper Valley.

Yeah.

Well, that's a nice place.

Thank

you.

Dennis's favorite half says, if my shirt was inside out, nobody told me I would be upset.

Kind of like having food in your teeth or something.

Yeah.

All right.

Thank you.

That's good.

I

like

that.

And we are one of the venues for Miley Music.

And we just, it's our favorite weekend of the year.

Wow.

Can I

ask just a rudimentary question here?

Where do you suggest people park?

Because that's always been one of my dilemmas pulling up there because so it's almost like a packer game.

Some people rent out their driveways and stuff, right?

For

parking.

Yeah, I come early enough that you can get in one of the parking garages.

OK, yeah.

And

those aren't that expensive.

No,

these bucks.

I know.

Yeah.

Now, one thing with with you guys is what you do for music.

Do you think, OK, that's like the chicken or the egg type thing.

Has Appleton always been so vibrant and interested in original music?

Or was it the opposite way where all these people came into Appleton and it's like, oh, this is a good place to start this?

Has it always had a reputation for that?

I think with Lawrence University, there's been a good tie there for music.

That's

the hook.

But when Willems' marketing and Dave Willems started this.

Isn't that sad?

He's

almost tomorrow.

I'm going to that.

But yeah, what a great

game of court chisel.

Yeah,

Paul.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When they started this, it was just, it was, hey, what do you think of doing this?

Let's try it out.

And your one was unbelievable.

And it just took off because people in our area are craving that culture and that vibe and the originality.

Exactly.

That's what Henry

stepped in.

And

you

killed

that

niche?

Yeah.

I mean, you got a great product, you got a great service, but to lean into the community a little bit more too is.

Well,

Hyde Music's been around since 1948, downtown, and it's a third generation company.

And we do rentals and all that fun stuff, you know, step up instruments, intermediate and ukulele.

As I told Linda here, she should play the ukulele.

It's a great instrument to start on.

She thought I could pick that up.

I think you should.

That's an easy

one.

Yeah.

Jim can play that.

I can

do that.

He actually

has the ukulele.

It's super fun.

Do I have

to give up the cowbell too?

No, you can have both.

But Todd, the ukulele and his whatever that thing's called, that doesn't work together.

So we can't

do

it.

the vibrator.

The

vibrator

is

what you got at home.

All right, so this is the Myla music.

Anything you want to share with us on that?

I mean, I

know it's great news.

PBS was in town last year filming mile 12.

And so this year, they have the hour long program ready to go and it's going to air on June 23rd on PBS.

That is huge news.

That is big news.

But I have bigger news.

Uh-oh.

On June 16th, you'll have the opportunity to see it before it goes public.

June 16th at 6 p.m.

in the Fox Cities Exhibition Center.

We're doing a prescreening of the program.

And nobody knows who's in it yet or anything, right?

No, nobody's seen it yet.

So we're all very excited.

It's open to the public.

Go to the PBS website or the PBS Facebook page, Mylon Music Facebook page, Appleton Community Music Facebook page, and you can just register.

There's an event by event bright registration.

It's still free.

We just want to know how many people are coming.

That's fantastic.

Wow.

All right.

We're so excited.

Tell us the date of the other airing again, please.

June 23rd.

23rd, OK.

In the evening, I believe 7 o'clock.

All right.

And so the pre-screen will be one week prior.

Phenomenal.

That's great.

I didn't know that.

They were there filming and it was pretty

cool.

They had, it was the largest deployment in the state.

They had all 45 videographers, photographers, everybody, all hands on deck.

I guess they did.

We got

somebody on right after that then.

Too hot, Todd, if we could.

Yeah, or the right before.

Yeah, that's pretty cool stuff.

We're gonna make sure people don't miss it.

This is

huge.

That's you.

Between the two.

Between the first, the private showing and the public showing.

Yeah,

yeah,

yeah, yeah.

You can come in here and talk a little bit more about it,

okay?

Absolutely, we love to.

That'd be

great.

We should both

be back, I think.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

High Music has been

such a great supporter of my own music and ACM.

Is Sheila

always like that?

She's got a piggyback and we can do it on this for her, not

sure.

Leah Reed, High Music, thank you for just

connecting with the

community.

And of course, Linda Garvey.

And all the respect to the world for Abton and their love for music.

Yep, you guys are awesome.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for being here.

Grab a donut on your way out.

Yes!

Or five.

Keep your hands off my Vibre Slap, okay?

No,

it's mine now.

Well, we will.

Come on on the mayor here and a good look at Friday man.

We've had some fantastic guests just tremendous Really appreciate all of them that today of course once I mentioned before Anniversary of Dita 81 years ago today outlight forces stormed the beaches of Normandy and some of the gentlemen I've interviewed over the years for my books I just want to do some excerpts to pay homage to them 105 a.m.

June 6 1944

Our job was to land inland and open up the roads for the 4th Infantry Division, about 5 miles from Utah Beach, where the 4th Division was going to land.

It didn't seem like we were over land very long before the Germans started blasting away at us with artillery.

Every time a bomb would explode near the plane, we'd shoot straight up about 200 feet.

It was tough on the pilots.

Some got knocked so far off course that were dropping troopers in the English Channel.

Others got dropped in areas the Germans had flooded.

Those poor guys didn't have a chance.

You hit the water with 60 pounds of equipment, you don't have time to slip out of your harness.

I was carrying my M1 rifle, plenty of ammo, a trench knife, boot knife, forehand grenades, 100 rounds of 30 caliber ammo.

But can you imagine all that work, all that training, all that determination, and you end up drowning without even a chance to fight.

Not even a chance to fight for your life.

What a terrible shade.

The green light coming on was a signal to stand up, hook up, and check the equipment of the guy ahead of you.

You yell out, OK.

Then before you know it, you're standing in the door, and it's your turn.

You don't have time to think about it.

Right away, once you're out of the plane, you looked up to see that the chute was open.

Then you look down to see the Germans shooting up at you.

You kept thinking, just let me get to the ground.

Just let me have a chance to fight back.

Don't let me get shot hanging in the air.

Orville Collins, 101st Airborne, D-Day, Denmark, Wisconsin.

Wow.

Orville, one of my favorite guys.

One of my favorite guys.

I'll tell you a quick funny story.

So, took Orville and his wife out for dinner one time after I was doing the story with them here in Green Bay.

Now I was going to drive them back to the place in Denmark.

And he was telling me we should get on 43 and we're going to drive for the end.

He's telling me this story and I was, I was driving.

I was, you guys wouldn't find this surprising, but I was lost my concentration and we're coming to it to tell her we went all the way around to her.

He goes, Hey, I got a question.

He goes, Sam, he's in my car.

Do you know where in the hell you're going?

But it was so into a story that I completely was oblivious to missing the exits and everything like that But that's the way it was sitting with those guys and one of the really cool things It was very special for my daughter one day for take your child to work there or whatever She came with me to his little farm.

It was not a little farm But very cool little dairy farm out in Denmark and sitting in his kitchen and here she was probably 14 13 listening to this gentleman.

Yeah

Talk about, and again, one thing I always try to get across from people, forget Hollywood, forget the John Wayne, forget the actors who played the parts of these guys, meet the actual individuals, and you realize they're just normal, great people that were your next door neighbors that went out and did these extraordinary things.

And I like how honest they are with you.

They were scared.

I mean,

that's, you know what I mean?

Like you're gonna, you're scared to death.

Right.

I mean, they're gonna do it.

Nobody ever turned back, but it's like, wow, you know, can you imagine looking down and being shot at?

I mean, come on.

Yeah.

And another guy, another big thing that the guys have told me, it's like, uh, for meddling, I mean, obviously the middle of honor is unbelievable.

It's the highest thing we've had anybody, but they said that for every one, there's a hundred guys, they saw do things that could have qualified, but the problem is a lot of times it was who witnessed it that helped push it along.

Yes.

And I think we have to remember that because the middle of honor, which of course we

hosted

here, um, there are people who

Thought somebody should be in there and I think they deserved it, but you know, there's a whole process for that and

you just gotta respect it.

Yep.

How about another one?

We've got about three minutes.

Absolutely.

I think in sharing another one before.

Absolutely.

The bottom of the arrow would be cool.

Absolutely.

And I've tried to do a variety.

Hang on one second.

Okay.

We couldn't see the beach over the top of the ramp.

The closer we got to shore, the sicker guys got.

We're bouncing up and down and guys were getting sicker than hell.

This is the only time in my life

I didn't get sick.

I honestly think I was too scared to get sick.

I'm not kidding.

I was too worried about what laid ahead.

They had me switch places with some guys.

I had been in back, which wasn't so bad, but they had me move to the front.

I didn't have any choice.

I just did what they told me to do.

But now I knew I would be one of the first ones off when they dropped the ramp.

We're all hunkered down below the sides of the landing craft when the pilot yelled out, here it is ramp down.

The first five or six of us jumped out.

I couldn't believe how far out from Shory were.

We thought the water was going to be knee deep, but it was up to my armpits.

We jumped out and struggled to keep our heads above water.

It was only a couple of seconds before a German machine gun found us.

They had us zeroed in.

The bullets went right over our heads.

But the rest of the guys on the boat, the ones right behind us, who I changed places with, they didn't have a chance.

There was no place for them to go.

There wasn't a thing they could do.

Some tried going over the sides, but if I hadn't gotten sick like the rest of them, if I hadn't moved to the front, they were all killed.

When the Germans found a boat that was unloading, they stayed on it just long enough to mull all the troops down.

Those poor guys didn't even have a chance to fire a shot.

Richard Gory, United States Army First Division Omaha Beach, Appleton, Wisconsin.

So yeah, there you go.

Just some of the guys once again commemorating D-Day 81 years ago today and again what I try to do is bring across these all just Richard was a Junior high principal then in Appleton for his whole career.

Okay, cool.

So

he's still wrong.

No, I don't know.

I don't think I have a single one from D-Day.

That's the actual D-Day that I still have.

Yeah, the yep.

Okay.

Well, those are great stories I mean, I'm so glad you captured that because that's

That's the real deal, boy.

Oh, man.

Isn't

that amazing that that guy must have felt really blessed.

I mean, you get six which

seats and he turned that night of deed.

Oh, same birthday as you.

The night of D day when he's on the hill, he turned 19.

Oh,

so it's the same birthday.

It's exact same birthday as you.

So

you get Kevin Van Assen donuts and this guy's after doing

that.

Right.

Yeah.

It's incredible.

But he said he was just wet and miserable, sitting on the side of that hill and a little thing afterwards, thinking, well, I made it to 19.

I don't think I'm gonna see 20.

Thank goodness he did.

He certainly did.

Wonderful, gentlemen.

All right, my man Dennis, our man Dennis is in the house.

It is one of our favorite times of the entire week.

We got some live music coming up.

Mine on the mare.

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Now back to Mino and the Mayor.

Here's John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back, Mino and the Mayor here, our man Dennis Peters from the glam band in the house.

Hey, you got a pretty cool gig coming up at Cheese Fest,

huh?

Yeah, we have a trifecta this weekend.

Yep.

Wow.

I heard your freight from here the other day.

I heard you guys done at Sardinia.

That crowd sounded so into it.

It was incredible.

It was amazing.

It's a beautiful night to play out.

Yeah, it was.

And it

just came down the river.

You know, the sound would just...

That's what I'm saying.

You know we're talking about the new area where the coal piles there might be a couple of years or whatever I I still think that would be a great place to have some kind of a thing for music right on the river

in that spot Oh, yeah, the sound will carry beautifully there.

Yes great backdrop.

You bet coal or no cold or no.

No be awesome Thanks for being

here Dennis.

Let me I'm all right for the average guy

Can we just mention really super 100% quick about a little get-together?

We're having it towards the end of July

sure if you'd like to all right, please do Dennis is

Challenged, I guess, with prostate cancer, but you are going to say something else.

No, no, no.

But that next work could have been anything.

Not challenged.

Dennis is...

But you're doing a great job with it.

Your attitude's right.

You're taking the right things.

And any kind of cancer costs money.

And we want to help you out.

So there's a big event coming up 21st.

22nd.

31st.

31st.

I'm sorry.

Again, I'm not factually... No, we're getting early.

31st and it's at the Riverside Ballroom and we are into music, fun, live auction.

We're donating.

It's something very cool.

I'm not going to tell you right now because we haven't got it yet.

But

it's on stage.

for cancer.

What

a great

organization, right?

Did they reach out

to you?

Did

you know them?

They reached out to a member of the band and I just tried to ignore it for a while.

Because let's be honest,

total,

total, total, whatever you call it, transparency.

We suggested this a long time ago and

we were

like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

But nope, nope, nope.

I'm a prideful guy, I guess.

We love you, so we're gonna do this.

Thursday, July 31st at Riverside Ballroom, dinner, drink, silent auction, live auction, singing, dancing, and much more.

So you just, you gotta participate in this.

Dennis has done so much for our whole community here.

And just go to onstageforcancer.org.

The money you raised for so many different causes is...

100,000 full versus what anybody's gonna do for you.

I mean, it's gonna be huge for you, but

you've done

so much for so many people.

It's great to plug in and do things for others, you know?

It really is amazing.

And it's kind of, I don't want to say it's an addiction, but it's pretty darn close.

Close in your heart, though.

It comes from the heart of you.

I love helping others.

It's a fantastic thing.

And I'm blessed to be part of that.

Life is good, friends.

It is.

It is

onstageforcancer.org.

Get involved.

You can get your tickets on there.

You can make donations.

So we're going to all get out there and support Dennis.

There's

going to be more information coming out about that as time trickles on because the date and the place Riverside Theater was already in place.

The Unstaged for Cancer does it once a year type

of a

thing.

And due to scheduling, I can't actually be there in person.

I'll be playing at State Fair.

And that was also in place.

But they were going to do the show no matter what.

And so it just happened to happen.

They reached out and long story long, they wanted me to be a benefactor for it.

And it took me a while to come around to it.

I know

it

did.

But those plans are already in place.

So the train left the station on a bunch of things.

Absolutely.

Great.

That's fine.

Stay tuned for more information on that as far as you want to play along.

Beautiful.

Thanks.

All

right.

Well, this is our favorite time of the week, because we have live music, and this is a magical thing.

Seeing music come to life right in front of us.

Lindsay Johnson, who's been here before and did a phenomenal job.

Malachi Fletcher, who is your young son, correct?

Correct.

As far as he knows.

All at once.

Right

on there

live music series.

Hello, Lindsay.

Dennis,

take it away, my friend.

It's great to see it.

We were spending a few moments in the green room.

Or is the same Green Bay, the green and gold room.

And we're talking a little bit.

And so I guess what it comes down to is how long have you been together doing this?

I mean, obviously, you've been together your whole life.

Yeah, 17 years.

As far as you know.

17.

Yeah, 17.

So we've been doing music for about two years, I'd say.

We started when I was 16 years old.

That's when I started getting into it.

OK.

I've had a guitar for a long time, but I never sang until like.

I was 16 years old or so.

Then we started gigging out pretty quickly.

My mom had already been doing a bunch of gigs with her other band, so she knew how it all worked, like how that environment was.

So it wasn't too difficult to get into that ourselves.

Booking gigs was a bit tricky the first time because, you know, I was young and still am young.

He's

got more mustache

than

I do.

I was

gonna say he's a very mature

17-year-old.

Holy cow.

I can

trick

some people, but none of the bar owners.

His

mom, his mom gets carted and he just, come on.

That's true.

It's not your

fault.

You have

a baby face.

It's okay, man.

The baby face is what lets them know I am still 70.

That's my only thing.

As the song goes, hold on to 17 as long as you can.

That's the 16th.

I don't get how much John Millicamp.

So what was it that brought you two together to start making music together?

What was it?

There was some I mean personal family problems that were going on at the time

And I personally was taking big redirection in everything I was doing, which is where I kind of fell into music and really fell in love with music.

And that's where, you know, my mom kind of grabbed me by the bootstraps and pulled me up and got me to start this band with her and put myself out there.

And it's really started my...

course in life, like this is what I want to do, you know, music.

So is she your main influencer?

Oh, for sure.

She is the person that got me to, if it wasn't for her, I would never be doing this.

So we get to blame

you for

this.

This

is fantastic.

It's making me emotional.

Lizzie, I'm going to give you credit for that, because kids at 16, you're struggling a little bit, you know, and some of you guys go and get into some things that you shouldn't get into, gangs, you're looking for that, and you made that happen, and you're a great mom for doing that.

Thank you

very much.

Yeah, I mean, he,

He had it in him.

And so it was just a matter of having a talk and being like, look, dude, let's do this together.

You know, I can't

play.

You can play.

And he didn't sing in front of me until it took a while.

He was just like, nope, don't sing.

Don't sing.

I'm like, you can sing.

And then once we got it going, it was just, it's a beautiful thing.

We can even argue during a set and still then we start singing and then we're over

it.

You know, it's kind of cool.

A musician arguing or family arguing?

Cause they're

too much of a

family.

Well, kind of both of them.

Yeah, they're two separate things.

I will separate you two.

I swear to God.

Well, you seem like you're smiling and all getting together along really nice.

I just I tease but so Musically for you, then okay, what was it that?

I guess what is your main musical influence other than mom?

I mean, what is it?

What kind of style of music is it that that draws you to say plugged into it

so

There's a few answers to that all at once is one project and then there's my own personal stuff All at once I most of my play style and how I do things is inspired by her other band member Jerry I Was just beginning out at the acoustic guitar and I didn't really have any technique so when he would do this thing where he would like That had me real excited and so I incorporate that and everything is just a big rhythm thing and

oh,

yeah, we do right

Very important if you have very few instruments.

Right.

And then for my personal music, I'm influenced by instrumental bands.

Like I'm wearing a shirt right now.

It's a Polypia.

Instrumental guitarist, progressive metal, rock, that stuff is my jam.

I make music like that at

home.

And how long have you been playing guitar?

a few years.

I mean, how many years?

Probably four years or so.