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Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.
And here are your hosts, John Minow and Jim Schmidt.
All right,
good morning, everybody.
Minow's not back yet, but again, we have Connie Fulman in the house.
Thanks for being here again.
Hey, it's Connie and the mayor again.
I am thrilled to be here, Jim.
Thank you so much.
Oh,
this was awesome.
I feel right at home.
I have to tell you, I got a text from, I texted John.
Are you feeling better?
You're going to be back Thursday.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's like, I really wanted to go out now.
We know he had a little skin cancer on his face, right?
Right.
And he had 10 stitches in it.
And he said, well, I want to go out and take a walk, but I want to put on the sunglasses and the hoodie and all that kind of stuff.
He goes, but I look like the unabomber.
So then he shot, he sent me a picture and I'll bring it in later for you guys.
And it's him.
And then a picture of the unabomber.
And I'm going to tell you right now.
They're close.
They're really close, Jim.
Really close.
OK, we'll have to work on that.
Well, that's good.
I'm glad he's doing fine up back tomorrow.
But I really, Connie, this is great that you're here.
We got quite a lineup today.
And we had one little change to talk about a little bit later.
I'm fine with the change.
But today though, just weather wise, right?
We can just start with a high, well, high today is gonna be 77.
58 now in Green Bay, 59 in Appleton, 58 in Oshkosh.
Some morning texts already.
Happy hump day.
Vicki, thanks for that.
Luanne, good morning.
Good morning
to you Luanne.
Hey Vicki.
Oh, I see Michael's out in New York City.
Good
morning to everyone from New
York City.
Yeah, that's...
I wonder if they have that wildfire smoke out there.
It's kind of...
Ear levels are pretty dangerous out there today.
They don't want you outside.
Yeah.
I talked to my daughter, but not about the weather.
She's in the middle of something else, which is great for her.
But I talked to a lady I worked with at New Community Shelter.
Her and her boyfriend, fiance, whatever, they're looking at going on a trip and she goes really debating.
Costa Rica or New York City.
I'm like, those
are two different places.
You know, it's like,
what,
you
know, they just won't, anyway.
New York's great.
I love it.
I would pick that
over a lot of stuff.
Not
close to Rika's pretty sweet though.
It is.
But you're right.
Two completely different appeals.
I'm
like, how could you come up with those?
It's not
like New York
or San Francisco.
That'd be
more of a comparison.
But anyway, they're going to close to Rika, which I think is great.
So yes, today.
Today, let's go through some of the Cheese Day.
Cheese Day.
Great for Wisconsin.
Yay.
Love
that.
Hug your cat.
Do you have cats?
I do not right now.
I have a dog, but I'm not a cat or dog person.
I love them both.
And
Tiara Bar has
friends, has cats, and they're my babies.
Oh, she's saying she's not choosing one or the other, right?
I'm not choosing.
Oh, I see.
Many dog people are anti-cat.
And I'm pro both.
Pro both.
Yeah, you know, that's probably true.
Yeah, that's probably true that some dog people are anti-cat.
Yeah.
What about you?
Um, you've got a
dog.
I'm a dog person for sure.
I love dogs.
I
couldn't imagine you with cats.
I know, right?
Yeah, I don't.
I, I,
I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
I, I,
I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I
Then he wasn't eating, I took him into the doctor and I
was like,
take out a little bit of intestines, like $200, $200, a little over that.
And then the guy's like, we gotta keep him away from the Christmas tree.
So I tried, but they jumped.
But anyway, he ate some more and I took him back and like, I don't know, the doctor says this is it.
He lost like a pound, which
is a lot
for like
a little
cat.
So anyway, that was very sad.
Have you seen those upside down?
Wait a minute,
so the cat died?
Yeah, the cat died because I had one surgery.
He ate again and then the doctor said, look,
We just did surgery on his cat.
We took out, I don't know, an inch of his, whatever, testing, and he said, no, we're not gonna do this again.
So those, for those of you keeping score at home, this is the second Christmas story that involves
a
death of his pet.
Oh,
oh.
That is not my pet.
That was my, the first one was my sister's pet.
You're right, Todd, I never
thought of that.
Christmas is the Schmidt's house.
It was.
So his sister was a teacher and had a pet hamster.
Brought it home for the holidays, right?
Brought it home for the holidays.
She can't leave it in the
classroom.
And she
kept it in like a shoe box or something, right?
There's a bigger box in there.
But yeah, it was a box.
And they did all the wrapping and all that and the paper and the extra boxes and stuff.
And so his dad said, listen, you guys got to clear this out.
So they took everything and threw it in the fireplace to burn it.
And then later it's like, you know.
Sacrifice to the
gods.
I know.
It was awful because I'll tell you what was really weird.
So my dad goes, you guys, boys clean this up and clean up.
We're gonna have breakfast.
So we clean everything up.
And then we're sitting around the table and we had 10 brothers and sisters, right?
So we're sitting around talking all Christmas and all Santa this.
Where's Benji?
It's like, oh, I don't know.
Looking around at my dad, looking at my brother Billy goes, you go find that.
It was a guinea pig.
And
so I was sad.
Oh no, that's even worse.
I
know.
That was weird, that was weird Christmas.
Come to think of
it, that's a flashback.
And people, and thinking people were listening, we love every listener, but I was out and some people made a comment about that.
I'm like, look, I didn't do it on purpose, so.
You know, my dad's best Christmas story with unwrapping paper.
We were just diving in, throwing it back in a pile and it was, and all of a sudden he's like, come on kids, now clean up all that paper and we turn around, there's this mound of wrapping paper and we start to, and underneath it was a little kitty cat.
Aw.
Not a kitty cat cat.
Little snowmobile a little if you remember the the articat little kitty cats.
Yep.
Yeah.
No, I don't
Oh, it's a little kids snowmobile.
Oh, that's cool.
That's
cool.
That's an awesome Christmas.
Yeah
That's
the beauty of your Christmas are different
than ours Yeah, we sacrifice things
Anyway, so hug your cat day.
Yeah, let me do that global running day.
That's
cool
Is it Gorgie or Gorgie?
It's Gorgie Day.
Gorgie, the dog.
Gorgie, the dog.
Gorgie, the queen of Lisbeth always had Gorgies.
They got their own day.
Yeah,
Gorgie Butt.
I wonder if Bernadouilles had their own day.
Don't have to look that up.
And America, the beautiful week.
That should be every week,
right?
Yes, absolutely.
Love that.
Love that.
All right, let's just, a few birthdays.
Do I know any of these people?
You know Angelina Jolie.
She was married to that guy?
Yeah, Brad Pitt.
Yeah, that guy.
See?
Yeah.
And are they on again off
again?
No, they're way off
again
off
again.
Yeah.
Okay.
She's 50.
She's 50.
Huh.
And I don't know.
I can't picture her, but I just know the name because that's way too much ink.
Okay.
Also 50 is Russell
Brand.
Comedian actor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kind of a weird guy,
right?
Yeah.
Not as familiar with him.
Yep.
All right.
Noah Wiley, 54.
He
was in ER,
right?
Nothing from Jim.
Who picks
these names?
No.
There's other people.
Like who?
Like who?
When I got married, I had my four brothers in the wedding and my best friend.
This is his wedding today.
But nobody else, nobody listening knows who he is.
I bet more people know Noah Wiley than whoever
this guy is.
Okay.
If you look at the paper, it's not always the same names.
And I'm just wondering who, you know, who picks because I would be,
let's say you're up.
I do work on the show, so I pick the names.
And it's all based on pop sports culture.
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
I've only been here two years and a half.
Grab
your
paper.
I want to know who's in
the
paper that you
would know.
Well, I can't, you don't let me read the paper on the show.
So I'll do it during the break, during
the
break.
Very good.
Okay.
Horatio Sands, who is Saturday Night Live alum.
is 56.
Okay.
L. DeBarge, come on.
You got to know who L. DeBarge is.
To the beat of the rhythm of the night.
The
band DeBarge from the 80s.
Okay.
64.
Wow.
And I can't believe Michelle Phillips is 81.
She was in the mamas and the papas.
Oh, that's cool.
And of course she was also an actress for a while.
She was
on Knotts Landing back in the day.
She's 81.
I saw that last minute
that that swimmers that old, but that's
Michael Phelps, right?
Oh my god.
I thought that
I said Taipo.
You know,
but you're right.
It was Michelle.
Sorry.
I read it.
You know, Wilson
Phillips.
Sorry.
No, no, never mind.
Let's move on.
Let's move on.
Yeah, that's, uh, okay.
Who's
close?
Flip Wilson
and Wilson Phillips.
Right.
See?
Fewer people would probably know who Flip Wilson is.
Um, I remember Flip Wilson.
I did too.
Okay, Gerald V. What's his birthday?
What's
his birthday?
We haven't had him on the list.
Pick him next time, Todd.
I don't know if he's still around though.
Yeah, I don't think he is.
Okay.
All right, then we can't do that.
All right, tonight.
No, today.
I love these afternoon games, but this is in Cincinnati.
Um, 1105.
First pitch, Brewers and the Reds, Cincinnati Reds.
Nice.
Did you see that?
They honored Pete Rose last night?
I didn't see that.
It
was crazy.
Wow.
Yeah, that was pretty cool.
Oh, mine was cringing right now with it.
She doesn't, she didn't see that.
I
can
just see
him.
Oh, I didn't see it either.
I just read it.
All right.
Hey, so today our lineup is pretty good.
We're having Jeff Murkerson here.
He hasn't been
here for a
while.
Yesterday we talked a lot about the on Broadway district and their events and
Something new that they have, plus of course they're bringing back a lot of their things that are very successful.
Kind of the west side of the river, right?
And then today, Jeff Merkis is coming on and he's downtown Green Bay, more the east side of the river.
They have activities too.
Try to combine those two into one, but they, that's like trying to combine two east and west to peer high school.
It
just wasn't there.
The
flavor just wasn't there.
We had meetings.
We actually brought a consultant in.
I'm not kidding you.
And it just, they justified in their own minds.
And I think, I don't know if they're right or not, keep them separate.
And I don't know.
The east and the west side of the river?
The events, the events.
So we got a, we got
on Broadway.
Downtown Green Bay, yeah.
Right, downtown Green
Bay on the east side.
And then you look at like Appleton.
I
mean, they
just got downtown Appleton, but they,
do the whole college.
They do
so many events down there.
Well, they don't have a river going through their city.
Right.
And then in Oshkosh, I think it's more centralized.
I'm not sure.
But the way we do things here, they both have activities
and
they both work.
And
that's what's really important.
A lot of fun stuff going on.
He's going to
come and talk about that.
And of course, then we've got the Mel Chorsen to talk about.
Moving with the Mel Chorsen.
That's real estate.
And I was telling Todd, you know, yesterday or two days ago in the paper, they
front page, real estate,
sales
down, cost up.
And even today, it was Study Names Green Bay among the best for first-time home buyers.
That's exciting for us
to recruit
talent.
So I
want to get their comments on that.
And of course, John's coming in, John Kramer from Headlines with the Press Times and Jessica Norwood, NWTC.
It'd be fun to talk to them about what's
going on.
And then Linda Gusty, I don't think I know her.
Director of Education at the Botanical Gardens.
Has she been here before?
I know she has.
Okay, we have people from the Botanical Gardens.
Have you been to their shows out there?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're amazing.
Did you
see Tina Turner?
It wasn't her.
I mean, obviously it was.
No, no, I didn't see that one.
Really good.
There's Bee Gees now.
Wow.
Is that
that?
That's
what's going to be
out there now.
All right.
Cool.
It'd be fun talking about that.
So and we had scheduled, I just want to tell our listeners, a Brown County board supervisor who's a friend of mine.
And I said,
because they knew they were voting on the coal piles last night.
And I said, look, come on here, 6.30 on Wednesday morning, and just give us the rundown.
What took so damn long?
And finally we got this deal done.
And what was the hang up?
And what is it going forward?
Well, he texted me last night.
He goes, hey, look, can't come on because we can't disclose this until final vote Thursday.
So he's going to come on Friday.
There was some deal made.
They can't reveal the details yet.
Right.
So
anyway,
that's fine.
At
least there's a
deal.
It's a big, big deal for
The city.
Why would it be so secretive?
I mean, why can't the public know what's going on?
My guess,
and I don't know this, is they just want it legally written and then signed by both parties before they make the announcement.
I think they agreed last night, but...
And then you agree and that's like, then you reduce it to writing and it's like, no, no, no.
Are you sure it was, you know, three years and not seven?
And I don't know.
I think I'm okay with them waiting because
you know, I've never been a politician.
So I can't even imagine in a workings, but are they going to be gone at some point?
Do you think?
No, the coal.
Yeah.
No.
Still the cheapest.
I mean, I just saw.
No, I mean, from our, from our
riverfront.
No, we're going to need coal.
I know, but they can
convert.
Did you see where is that?
Is it in Illinois, the nuclear that they're putting in now to help this all this AI stuff?
Nuclear is 19% of our energy, and they're building more of that now.
Because it's
clean, it's good for the environment, it helps the global warming.
No, I'm not kidding you.
Anyway, so yes, there's going to be coal here.
Plants need coal, and they don't want to convert over to natural gas.
And we've got to respect that.
It's still the cheapest form of energy
right now.
Right, it just needs to go away from the waterfront.
You've got ships that bring it in.
In my opinion.
Yeah.
Good idea.
Hey, we'll talk a little bit about that the
break.
Ladies and gentlemen, the very first time Jim got a little, uh,
with
Connie in the
studio.
Oh, man.
She's tough.
She's tough.
All right.
Hey, we're going to be right back.
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This is El Dabar.
This is Dabar.
Get out of here.
Oh my
gosh.
See, Connie.
It ties into the day.
He's not a yesterday, tomorrow.
Wow.
This guy lives in the moment.
Wow.
I'm just,
I mean, you know how I feel about you.
I love you.
I was thinking, let's hear it for the boys.
Doesn't it sound like let's hear it for the boys?
There's a similarity.
Yes.
All
right.
Little bit.
lawsuit.
Okay.
Hey, couple things.
We got a nice text here today from Sherry at Kayak, Wisconsin.
Do you Kayak?
Oh, I do.
OK, so the kayaks
are in Bellevue on the East River now.
Oh, nice.
They have those
launches.
You know, they have one at Lily Lake and a couple other ones are on time.
They have four or five launches.
You just go online and they give you the code.
You go in there, you can rent kayaks.
Oh, how cool.
It's very good because it's.
Do you kayak?
I have not here.
OK.
I know you don't canoe.
I almost spit my coffee out when you asked him if he kayaked.
Do you
kayak?
I did a spit take.
Okay, I got it.
All
right.
Anyway,
they're in Bellevue.
The water's
low,
but
if
you guys want to schedule time to use the kayaks, let me know.
Isn't that nice?
That is.
So Sherri
was on here before, and she's
big and tall.
Cool.
Thanks, Sherri.
Hey, we must be doing all right here.
Okay.
Only because when I came in this morning, there's Starbucks coffee.
So thank you whoever did that, because we've been drinking this water dunk for me.
I mean, for
us, for our customers.
I didn't get the Starbucks.
I didn't get the Starbucks.
Yeah.
The Starbucks in the back too.
Oh.
That's a treat.
Yeah.
They have an ice cream.
Yeah.
Anyway, thanks, Todd, for whoever bought
that.
Yeah.
Sage bought it.
Let
me just say
that.
Sage.
Right.
We love Sage.
We're talking about him
yesterday.
He's doing great.
All right, so.
How are you doing here?
I
love it here.
I really do.
You're a
TV person though, right?
Yes.
And you
were anchor here, anchor there.
Yeah.
And we talked a little bit yesterday and in our next half hour, at least for the part of it, we'll talk a little bit more about TV.
We're not going there unless Sage wants to buy TV stations, but right now
we're
radio people.
But you have some information on...
Well, I thought it would be interesting.
There's, you know, like the top five things you never knew about your local newscaster.
because I used to get comments from people I would meet, you know, all the time about, wow, you're, you're short.
Or, you know, do you, you know, do people come in and who does your hair and makeup?
And a lot of stuff that I think is fun that you wouldn't necessarily know.
A
little bit with politicians are a lot more with newspapers because you're on every day, but we're on once in a while.
And people would say to me, I mean, all what I first was elected, that man, I thought you'd be taller.
And
I would
say to them, so did I.
Part of the reason is when you're on camera, the camera shoots and people view it at eye level.
So they think you're the same eye level as them, because that's how they're seeing you on TV.
And I'm much more below eye level for many people.
Okay,
that's two of us.
So I've got
a great picture of her.
And who's the gentleman with?
It's Jordan Lamerts.
He does the weather and the morning show, you know, filling in.
I didn't realize he was that tall.
Yeah.
And we'll show that after
6.30 in our stream.
Well, sitting at the desk, we were, you know.
Yeah.
Right.
You look the
same.
More even.
Right.
Yeah.
He is quite a bit taller.
There was an article on some of the changes in the media.
Now,
There was when we first started in radio.
Oh my god It was like remember every week somebody's leaving somebody's doing this in the radio and I haven't heard a lot lately But on TV, you know with Jarts, of course retired
and
Chris, you know moving up a chair But we lost to like good weather people the bigger markets.
Yeah, I don't watch the weather
but anyway,
that's
They just said changes in the industry.
It's like, well, big to other people.
Somebody else left or came to, but anyway, it's cool that Green Bay, a little bit of a stepping stone, right?
I mean,
people kind of come here and it's like, this is great.
I'm going to move on.
I
wish I'd stay.
Yeah, it used to be, it was kind of the breaking off point where people would decide, okay, you know, they'd go to Wausau and Rhinelander and then Green Bay was usually at least their second job and the time to decide, am I going to put up with this?
Do I really want it?
Because it's a lot, a lot harder than a lot of people know.
And they would either continue
on in TV from here and move up markets, or this would be the breaking point where they said, no, it's not for me.
Or they might stick around, right?
They might be like long-term people in
this market.
If you're like a Connie Feldman, for example, who's local, who's from Shawna, who loves northeast Wisconsin, I stuck around and tried to move up within the industry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Bill Jarch from Clintonville, you know, there's a lot of us.
And
we've had some great
people that have moved on.
Yeah.
I mean, and that's kind of cool that they like to go back to their like home area, not necessarily the same hometown, but you know, that state or that region.
And that makes sense.
I did that too.
So here we are.
All right.
So we're going to talk about you and your media stuff.
Are you still in
touch with all your media
friends or
do you guys kind
of like
split up?
Oh, no.
No, it's a really small industry.
You know, there's only four stations in Green Bay and many of us who have been around long enough have worked at most of them.
And it's a it's a really small tight-knit group.
So how does one get into that though?
I mean you're we look a cheerleader and on stage like was it that
I drew it to you was it more like I love
writing I love reading
I love writing that was my passion and that I was a cheerleader and it was on stage, but it was more Journalism, you know, it's because if your goal if your goal is like,
okay, I those are two different
I'm not laughing at you.
I'm laughing with you.
Really?
Yeah, really.
You're, I said, you, like, what was the question I was, I'm not saying it was Eagle, but you're on stage, you're a cheerleader, right?
You're out in front, you're in the spotlight.
Yeah.
And then there's journalism, which is totally different.
You know, you're kind
of
in this.
Well, yes, it's different than being on stage.
And knowing your personality, how outgoing you are, you say like,
Did it because of journalism?
I just smiled.
I didn't laugh.
I smiled.
Well, here's my thing.
If you enter...
Okay, get me out
of this.
But I am a dinosaur.
You know, broadcast journalism.
If you enter TV to be on camera, you're not going to last long because it's journalism.
And the reason it's there is to...
you know, is news to tell people stories.
The actual being on TV part of it is very, very minimal to what you do.
So there's a lot of- So you're
telling me, I don't know if I buy that, you're telling me that the
people
who are on TV-
Oh,
it's already started.
A week into the honeymoon.
The
people
who are
on TV are there because of journalism, not because they want to be on TV.
I got a couple people I want to ask you about at
the break.
Well, I'm not, oh, journalism.
You're talking to a journalist.
I know, I know that.
And
a
cheerleader and someone who has lead role in the high school
plays.
We gotta get, we gotta get Terry Barr.
We gotta get Terry Barr in here.
She knows it.
All
right, we're gonna
be right back.
Connie the mayor.
All
right, don't forget coming up after seven o'clock this morning.
It's a Scotty summer and the Texas win statewide contest is going on this morning.
Connie and Jim will have this morning's keyword for you.
Be listening in for that for a chance to pair a pair of Milwaukee Brewers club level tickets or a hundred dollars cash in those great Wisconsin vacations in the Wisconsin, Dells area or Door County vacation.
Again, that's coming up after seven o'clock this morning with Connie Feldman and Jim Schmidt, Mino and the mayor.
All
right.
When we need a lot of texts today, we're gonna put the arm on this
thing today.
Yeah, come on,
we need
to hear from you.
We made more texts.
You look
quiet yesterday,
so today's the day.
It's 100 bucks.
100 bucks for those club of
seats
are good seats.
And it's a more fun one to hear from people.
Yes, absolutely.
So, all right, so we're talking a little bit about...
How great it's been to have you here.
But you're a TV person, so we talked a little bit last night.
You have some things that we didn't know about.
Is it about you specifically?
Well, I'm going to speak to them from a personal perspective, because I don't want to speak for any other anchor.
But it's just kind of common things in the industry that you wouldn't know.
You see people on TV, and you think kind of what they do and who they are.
But then when you meet them in person, it's often a different story.
They either look different than you thought or...
I hope they're...
Nice.
They are.
Would not be anything
but not you.
I just because it's sad.
I don't like like I did entertaining, right?
I did lighting at the Carlton West
for
years.
And some of these people weren't very nice.
Well, and you're going
to find that in every
probably in media,
though.
But probably some of these.
Yeah.
Listen, there's politicians who are jerks.
There are TV people, radio people.
Some are wonderful.
Some not so much.
Yeah.
I
mean,
it's
everywhere.
It is.
My point was that how they come across as super nice, and then you meet them and they're like super rude.
You know what I mean?
I think there's some politicians that are rude, but they're kind of jerks, you know, even on the floor.
I don't know, maybe
not.
Well, they're actors, and you know, an actor is not the same thing as a...
Broadcaster wasn't you want to be who you are on the air,
right?
But there's also expectations,
right?
So like
people will say to me all your radio voice I don't like do this radio thing, but I don't go on and go All right, it's seven o'clock.
I
got a chance to win
You got
to go.
Hey at seven o'clock.
You've got a chance to win, right?
Well, and like I get to come in radio in a ball cap and yeah,
I chill
that's my radio It's I love it.
All right.
So tell me something we didn't know about we don't
You guys don't know about
each other.
All right, here's what you might not know.
All right.
The top five things you may not know about your local news anchor.
They're likely a lot shorter or taller in some cases than you think.
So
you put, you're sitting at the desk, right?
You know, we saw that picture of Michael Chen and I last week.
I was sitting on the Milwaukee phone book to bring me up to about how high he is.
And there's a picture of Jordan.
There's Jordan Lamers and I, we were.
Wow.
the more I was filling in on the morning show.
And when we sat at the desk, we were about the same height.
You know,
his chair
was all the way down, mine was all the way up.
But then when we stood up and Jordan shares my birthday by the way.
Oh, cool.
Yeah.
Great guy.
So it's interesting.
Look at
how short she is compared to him.
I guess.
I mean, you come up to like,
I say his nipple
areas where your eyes
are.
He is very tall.
I'm, you know.
But that happens with...
A lot of people, not just us people, because, remember, Tom Cruise is not that tall.
No,
yes.
But they put people around him that make him look like he's a little
bit taller.
I
mean, when you cast people, they
wouldn't do that.
And like I said, when you see people through a TV lens, you assume you're seeing them at eye level.
Because they're shooting a different
one.
OK, so
by and large, I would think people, news people, are shorter than we think they are.
I don't think they're taller.
Well, but Tom Zulaski, I think, might be taller than you would think he is.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So also I always got asked.
So people think you do your hair and you have people come in and do your hair and makeup and of course you don't.
You don't have a little makeup room?
Yes.
There's nobody in there?
Well you do it yourself.
Really?
You kind of learn as you go what you know what works what doesn't and believe me you will hear from the viewers if something doesn't.
There are consultants who will tell you you need to you know have
Straight hair.
So
we're a mid-sized market.
Mm-hmm.
When do you get the makeup people like maybe network
network?
Yeah, those guys
anchoring network.
Yeah, New York top four.
Maybe do you think
they have them in Chicago?
Probably yeah, Chicago.
Yep New York LA Chicago Philly
the bigger cities
had
it right.
Yep, but we never got to that.
No, that might
be a cool thing to do to attract talent say look you work here
Great studios, we got the best equipment and we have a makeup artist that comes in
every day.
Would that make a difference for you if you were going, let's say five had it and 11 didn't?
It may, but that's just not, not in the local budget.
Is that because it
feels egomaniacs?
No, it's not in the local budget.
It won't, that's, yeah.
All right.
And I wasn't gonna go there, but yeah, it's not a tremendously lucrative career until you get way to the top, then it may be.
Oh yeah.
But yeah.
The other thing that's interesting is the dudes, the guys you see on TV wear makeup also.
And that's, they have to figure it out.
I was always taking the young male reporters under my wings
and
saying, here's what you do.
And it's just, it's mainly because if you go on with, you just look pasty white under the lights.
So you have to have some color on you.
When
John goes on and fills in on Local
Five
Live, he wears
makeup.
So you see him in person, you're like, ooh, dude's got makeup.
But don't they do that?
I mean, when I had longer interviews, longer interviews, 20
minutes, when they want to sit
down with you, they always put that
little brush.
They used to.
They used to.
They really don't have that anymore.
Well, I don't know.
I
wouldn't know what to bring.
So when you went on with Zulaski, with Mino, right, when the show kicked off, you went on his weekend show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did anybody do your makeup?
No.
OK, there you go.
I was one of those people who did makeup.
at 26 back in the day in commercial production.
But they've gotten away with that.
You know, gotten away from that now.
They don't, some stations don't do it.
Usually the guy or the lady walks over with just that little brush.
We have
a
little glare here.
You
just put it on your forehead and then
they walk away.
It's not like
makeup, it's not like they put eyebrows.
Look
back on that tape, Jim.
You
guys were shiny.
They probably were.
They do thing.
All right,
so.
This is for you.
Everybody thinks you're tall, you're not.
Everybody thinks you got a makeup artist before you go on and that's, it's all you.
Yeah,
yeah.
You say they get criticized from the viewers once in a while.
Does somebody okay your makeup?
Like say, all right, honey, that's good.
I mean, do you have like a- A consultant would say
something, right?
Occasionally, there will be a consultant.
Or the producer might say something, right?
Like, hey, the rouge or anything like that.
It's
a little
too red.
Yeah, somebody should.
The director, the producer.
Gotcha.
They should.
And they should also say, you know, your shirt's wrinkled, but some-
You know, TV is not the way it used to be.
So this is my personal experience.
Remember, I'm a dinosaur.
At your young age.
Listen, I can tell you as a producer, when I tell these guys anything like, don't lean back in
your
chair, your stomach's sticking.
They don't listen.
They
don't listen.
I'm working on
it.
This is for you, Jim.
The newscast, the part you see on TV, the half hour news, that is actually the smallest fraction of their time that they do every day.
So for example, you know anchors who present the news are writing the show.
They're producing the show when I was At channel five on the weekends.
I was there producing and writing my own show and then anchoring it at night and sometimes going out in between and catching video of whatever was happening
Wow,
so
they do more.
They just don't read a teleprompter You're saying they do more than that.
They
actually
write what's
on the teleprompter.
Yeah
because you have a producer, but you have to have people help you write the show.
And those are usually the people who've been around the longest.
A lot of time for me.
I love to mentor young journalists.
And I was a self-proclaimed dinosaur, but said, this is AP style.
This is why we write this way.
And that was my passion.
I
had that.
So what time did your show come on?
I did a 6.30 and a 10.
In the morning or at night?
At night.
So what was your prep time like?
Did you get in 330?
Is it two hours, three hours prep?
Oh, no, I was in at 130.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I don't think you work that hard either.
I won't.
It's a lot of
work.
And then so the broadcast ends at 1030, right?
Yeah.
What time do you actually walk out the door?
I was pretty close to 11.
Yeah.
You know, there's not promos to shoot after.
But you know, and sports guys too, sports guys are covering sports.
all day in a hot summer day, and they come in not uncommon to see them in suit coat and shorts.
And then the sports guys after the show, they have to shoot sports extra or whatever promos they have, so they're long hours and hard work.
All right, that makes sense what you're saying.
I want to look at all that behind an anchor.
I thought that was kind of a chill job that you just kind of got there and teleprompter, but it's more work.
That's cool.
Teleprompters go out too.
I was also, nowadays, back in my day, I had to have a paper script on my desk.
They have tablets now, but tablets fail also.
And when you're standing there staring at a live TV camera, you gotta know the teleprompter's gonna go out at some point, and you need to know exactly where you are, and you don't wanna be caught like a deer in the headlights, but if you're really good, you'll never know the teleprompter's gone out.
And that anchor is just reading off their scripts.
Okay, so you
read the teleprompter and you've got it on your tablet.
Yeah.
Who's scrolling it?
You are.
Oh, man.
They don't even have that anymore, Jim.
A lot of places don't even have camera people.
It's
all
electronic.
Yep.
And you're also operating nowadays your own teleprompter with your foot.
So when I was producing, I was trying to scroll my scripts on the iPad, time the show with my other hand on a laptop on the desk and scroll my teleprompter with my foot.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is a
little off base.
Right, right, right.
A little off base.
I wonder, they're doing that for cost containment,
right?
I don't
want to add people.
It just seems like they're, they've added, and I don't know, it seems like they have added more commercial time.
I mean, you can Google and see what it is, what they add on.
That's business.
But you
would think, you love money.
I mean, it's business.
I do.
You know, digital is a huge push.
That's where news is going.
People want their news.
where they want it, how they can get it, when they want it, they don't sit around and wait anymore for the evening newscast to come on.
So you also, reporters and anchors, you know, once you're done with your story and you've gone out, you've had one day to find somebody, talk to them, write it, edit it, get out, present it, and then you put it on the web, you put on web copy.
Like I look at X, right, every morning, I read that for
like
a half hour, just go through the stories if I want and I'm gonna click it on.
That doesn't bode well for TV anchors.
Well, not necessarily, but it's a great vehicle to get communications out.
I love it.
Are you kidding me?
The other thing, too, is they're still selling a brand on there.
So
whether it's the reporter's brand or the network's brand or the news organization's brand is still
braining it.
So
whether it's web or it's social, it's all the same.
I will just tell you, Lisa Hale, one person does 71 different stories a week,
Jim.
71.
Well, and the thing about, don't get me on a platform here, but you can't necessarily
I always trust what you read on the internet.
So there's, to me, an even greater need for local journalists now because anybody can say anything
they want, put it on the
internet and call it news.
And that's scary for me.
All right, let me give you my one last top five things you never knew.
Camera ads, well, they used to say it added 10 pounds.
I came back to news after 15 years of being out, now it adds 20.
Really?
Are you just saying that
because?
Maybe it's me.
Maybe I added a few myself.
I'll say
this.
Too many cameras.
Even when you see somebody on TV who's not overweight or anything, and you meet them in person, they always look skinnier and more frail.
Yes.
More frail.
They
do look
like.
It does add some dimension.
So it is true.
So that's, yeah.
I mean, look at yourselves in the camera gym right now.
That's at least 10.
Perfect.
Yeah.
Really, you know, in person, I'm only, you know,
120.
So is Chip.
We're talking, I don't know, a couple weeks ago, I had my wedding anniversary.
And we're talking about,
yeah, thanks, it was 35 years.
But we're talking
about the difference in, because everybody knows how much you waited when they got married, I think.
I mean, I don't know, we did.
And it's, she's put up with a lot, a lot, but I'm gonna... I'm gonna
get back with her.
I
can only imagine.
St.
Donna.
Yeah, that's right.
Oh, Donna.
She
has
off to you.
Yes, all right.
So, do you have a preference on TV or radio?
I guess it's...
Tough to ask you when you're sitting here on the radio.
What's cool, and the other thing cool is the way radio is now, there's still video,
there's still pictures and all that on the
web, so you still have a piece of that.
Yeah,
you can
do it all right here.
I love the hair and makeup, much better for radio.
Yeah, it's true.
Alright,
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are so important to a community.
You can have the infrastructure, but if you don't program it, it kind of sits there.
Well, we've got a lot to do.
And it's, you know, like we were saying yesterday, you just got to know about this stuff.
So that's why we're here.
Yeah.
And then this Linda, it's gusty, right?
Am I got that right?
For the director of education at the Green Bay Botanical Gardens.
Are you a... I know she's going to talk about the Bee Gees and the entertainment they have there, and they have great entertainment, but are you a big gardener?
I'm
out there all the time because I love it.
I do not have the green thumb.
There's rarely been a plant I can't kill.
Okay, we'll move on.
What do you do outside of broadcasting?
Like, what's your thing?
Do you horseback ride or something?
Well, I do horseback ride.
I grew up with horses.
Oh
God, there's something you guys
have
in
common.
We do.
And I really wanted to get into it, into it, you know?
There was a stable on the east side of Green Bay, like in Bellevue.
I took my kids there.
I wish they would have gotten in, but they were so intimidated by the size of the horse.
They just couldn't understand that they were in charge, even though the horse was bigger.
Yeah.
And that grass, they didn't come there.
They were young.
Maybe I took them there too young.
Well, I'm guessing United.
Did you do English writing?
No.
OK.
The Western Saddle?
No.
Yeah.
Because I was out, you know, I was running barrels doing pole races.
Oh, you did all that?
Oh, yeah.
So the county fair is coming up.
We're going to have somebody come on to talk about that.
That is really cool.
Those girls, they're young.
I think so are the guys, but
the girls are pretty
young and boy do they handle the horse.
I'm gonna get to that.
I love that.
Yeah, and it's more, maybe like journalists, but it's a lot more than looking party and being up holding their flag and riding a horse.
They do roping and riding.
So are you still in it or did you get out of it?
Well, I grew up on a farm and that was mainly we raised horses.
So, but I haven't, I haven't ridden in probably a couple of years.
My big thing right now I love is the outdoors.
I love going up north, I love fishing, you know that, boating, hiking.
That's,
I think we have to sell that more here in Green Bay, because I think I told you I'd be doing that recruiting tape for Aurora about, you know, we're a lot more than football.
20 minutes you can be fishing, you can be in the ER, 20 minutes later you can be fishing.
That's pretty cool, you can't do that in New York.
No, or Texas or California.
There's a
lot of places.
And I think that that, I don't know, I haven't really studied these younger.
30-year-olds, but they also want to be in a community that is concerned about the environment.
And I think we're good at that.
I really do.
I
don't think we talk enough about it.
You look at somebody like Georgia Pacific, but they do, you know, to be green and to support outdoor sports.
That's an awesome company.
We're so lucky to have them.
I don't think we would ever take someone like that for granted.
what they do for the environment's unbelievable.
It's just a great, great company.
And I think we need to sell more of that because to say, look, you can be here.
And like I said, the front page of the paper, study names, Green Bay among the best for first time home buyers.
It's like, well, don't come here because it's cheap.
I mean, come here because of the amenities.
Well, look at all the water that surrounds us.
But the younger generation you're talking about recruiting and young professionals, they are much more concerned.
then we were even, in my day, about the environment.
It's a really, you know, really concerned about protecting and keeping it around for the next seven, yeah.
Hands down.
And I said before on this show that even when they seek jobs and they're looking for jobs, it was really, really important to them, you know, what they do for the environment, what they do for charitable things,
what they do
for
time
off to donate.
And I can't say that was my top priority when I...
went out looking for a job.
Well, I was in the 80s, you know, we were like, how much money can you make?
Exactly.
And it was.
I'll be honest.
Yeah.
And I think here's the other thing, though, I don't know that a lot of jobs pay what maybe some of these positions should require.
And so I think people are like, well, if I'm not going to make what
I'm
worth, then there's got to be some other things for me to join this company.
There's a lot more work from home also, ever since
COVID.
You're probably right, but there's some pretty competitive wages out there and it still comes down to what what do you do?
I think a company that gives to African kids, you
know, that's a
big deal for like one of my daughters and I just think that I just wish I wish we would have been more brought up like that because we weren't I mean, we're just like get a good job getting education and go make some money
and
I and I and I think I'd like to take a little bit of credit for
Because we did a lot of charitable work, but that's because I was, you know, the mayor.
But they grew up doing that.
They still do it in their communities.
They're involved and stuff.
And I think that's awesome.
And they love it.
Yeah, you look at how awareness has changed and times have changed.
You know, it just wasn't as we weren't as knowledgeable then as we are now.
Listen, you used to be able to watch TV and the Flintstones would tell you to smoke a Winston.
You
know
what?
Jim,
we just got a text.
I just got a message from somebody.
And I want to know why we didn't know about this.
But you are featured in the latest, frankly, Green Bay episode.
with Frank Hermans.
Really?
What'd he do?
Oh
boy, that, I remember.
He interviewed
me.
A while ago.
What was it then?
I didn't even know what that was.
What was it then?
Frankly Green Bay, the TV show he does, and you're on it.
Do I speak well of you, Todd, in the
Civic Media?
I don't remember that interview, but okay, I'm sure I did.
Did they put makeup on him?
He does not look that red.
True that it was
in summer.
And this is a while back, because you have a little bit more weight in this.
So I don't know how long ago this was, but it is out
now.
Do you notice how Todd and I, we're both together, I bet you we're over 40 pounds we've lost.
Two of us
together, I mean.
Good job.
I know, right?
We are.
Well, I never knew either of you before to be overweight.
Okay, let me pull out some pictures.
It's a TV
camera.
It puts it on.
We're on radio.
It's the camera, remember?
It puts on 20 nowadays.
It
does.
But no, we've talked about it a lot, but I think the last few months, Todd and I kind of leaned into it a little bit more.
Good for you.
Which is good.
Yeah.
You want to do that now, because then your knees are better and you're going to have to worry about all this stuff.
So anyway, all right.
So, run down today, you guys, stick around because this isn't going to be good.
Jeff Merkis is going to be giving us the up-down on downtown Green Bay and he's going to talk a little bit about Apple and Oshka.
She works with these other downtown directors and how more we can do together.
Ben and Deanna Melchor course, moving with the Melchors.
Let's talk about this is the place for first-time homebuyers.
That's, I think that's awesome.
That's exciting.
It is.
And in John Kramer course with headlines with the press times, great.
And then we had
Jessica from the end of ATC coming in and then of course Linda, the director of education for the Botanical Gardens.
They're going to talk about the Bee Gees Now, which is
a
great concert that's coming out there.
Sticker, I'll be right back.
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