Top Chef & Press Gazette (Hour 2)

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John Minow, and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

Minor the Mayor here.

So great talk with Dan Breck about the Brown County breakfast on the farm.

Folks, if you've never, excuse me, if you've never been to one of these, you've got to go.

If you've got kids or grandkids especially.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, that's hands-on.

And like Dan said, this has become a family tradition for a lot of people, but you make a good point.

This is great for grandkids.

Oh, I'd

love to take my granddaughter, sir.

Oh,

yeah.

You know what

the number one thing I remember with all the kids they can't believe how big cows are when

you're up next to them That's I said even that equipment you drive by it.

Yeah, okay, but then you get there and yeah And they let you get really close.

Nothing's roped off there.

No.

Yeah,

so it's very

cool We're gonna keep talking this Sunday, June 1st Brown County breakfast on the farm Eight until noon.

It doesn't go long because it's still a working farm,

right?

And we're going to, I'll be serving and you'll be driving

the tractor.

I'm

going to be driving the

tractor.

Oh my God.

That's unbelievable.

I'm so glad I brought that

up.

I know.

Thank you.

By the way, okay.

Let's talk to the passengers after.

Yeah.

Wait.

Well, they didn't know you could do donuts with donuts.

I can do

a wheelie.

Okay.

A couple of kids throw up.

Okay.

Wow.

Really?

Big deal.

I get carsick and I get over it.

Um, we got our big go card, um, entries going here.

Some right now, if you're going to be a part of this, you get a major price

package.

Okay.

to the way it works.

We're going to put words on the bingo card and then when we use them, they're going to or phrases, right?

So these are some of the entries.

Go ahead.

Bingo card.

My oh, go ahead.

What

is a dry rub?

OK.

OK.

All right.

John saying like you wouldn't believe.

All right.

Bingo card phrase.

Quick pull.

That's something John would say.

You read that one.

Quick pull.

Men's health and Dollar Tree.

Yeah, that that that's definitely this next one's you too.

Yeah, go card.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yep.

Uh, this one might be me

Linans and sauna.

I think that's what you're gonna write.

Bingo card.

I was gonna read that.

Okay, good.

Uh, good.

I don't make up stories.

That's you.

Phenomenal.

Milton

veterans.

Actually, those are three really, really good words.

All right.

Maul.

No, no, no, the first one.

Oh phenomenal.

No, no.

Oh Here it is.

Okay.

I thought that okay.

All right.

I don't know who would say this downtown mall bike seat Mine

and

the

last one the hood

Those are our

first entries every one of them will be used for our bingo cards that were legitimately giving out to people you can win a major prize

Those are really good words.

Thank you for listening.

Those are

obviously

listeners.

So, good listeners.

Loyal listeners.

All right.

Tom Swerge.

Tom Swerge.

I can never pronounce

your

last

name, Tom.

And

I've tried practicing.

You've advanced the quarterfinals for a taste of the home's favorite chef.

Your background is exquisite.

And I just, I swear, I still want to come to that.

Talked about, yeah, the brunch.

I gotta come to that.

So, Tom, you got the four.

Okay, so the brunch is... Explain who you are.

Okay, so I'm a retired military.

I'm a former chef at the Pentagon.

For big-time people.

For William Perry and William Cohen, the two secretaries at Defense, like I work for.

During the Bill Clinton time, so I was in my 20s.

Before the internet, every time I...

get on CNN, whatever, call my mom, hey, I'm on the, see me on the news.

You didn't stream it to her.

Yeah.

After 9-11, I deployed four times, retired 2012.

Where were you when you deployed?

So I was in Saudi Arabia.

Right after 9-11, I was 60 miles from the Iraq border in Kuwait.

I was in Qatar.

And the UAE, so I got to do that indoor skiing in the desert.

You did that, didn't you?

No, I didn't do the skiing.

I did golf at the Abu Dhabi golf course.

No kidding.

Wow.

That's cool.

So that was one of my big things.

I wanted to go jet skiing in Persian Gulf and gulfing.

So after the third time, I actually got to do that.

We landed in the Persian Gulf on the USS Eisenhower.

That

was unbelievable.

That's unbelievable.

It's

when you take off,

it's like

slingshot.

It's like, man.

And you get

off over the water.

It's the hottest place I've ever been.

And there's by I don't know where I was Aliah Salim or one of the play over there.

Oh, yeah, Salim.

Yeah,

yeah, Salim.

Yeah, the huge people where is the humid it when

you have

humidity over there?

It's I'm like I was in New Orleans, you know, I'm very spending and I was like, how could you possibly like even golf or much less

put on

pads and play football in

this kind of

heat?

How did you guys handle that heat?

Oh, when you like air conditioning everywhere, right?

I'm fortunate.

I was when I was in Kuwait

I'm a store manager, so I sat in the freezer and counted MREs.

Wow.

That's a

good gig.

Because people don't even, like all my Vietnam vets that I'm interviewing, they said, it's like, well, Vietnam, scary place.

But they said, the biggest thing they had overcome was when they were first there and they experienced that heat.

It's like, how do you live in these

kind of new things?

When you walk out the door, it hits you like a...

like an oven.

And if you never see sand again, you'd be

okay.

If you look out over the past the concertine wires and stuff, it's nothing but sand.

So you parlayed your chef experience into what you're doing now.

You also cooked for at least a cheeseburger for Colin Powell.

Yep.

So General Colin Powell was retired.

So he had a consulting gig.

for the secretaries that I worked for.

Every day, he'd be walking through with a suit and out of the corner of your eye, I'm like, you're just seeing famous people all day long.

Well, they got to eat, right?

They came

to you.

All

right, so tell us about where you're at right now.

Tell them where you're from here.

Right.

So I'm from O'Connell Falls.

And in my contest, I just got into O'Connell Falls chat.

So anybody out in O'Connell Falls, there's a link right there.

Click on it and vote.

Nice.

So I'm trying to get today's the last day of quarterfinals.

So I'm trying to catch up.

OK.

I've gotten down.

The first round there, I was first place all the way through.

This round I'm I shrink down to 6th, and I'm climbing back up to today.

I'm gonna

be honest with you Tom I've tried a couple of times and and had trouble Oh clicking on it clicking

into a thing

Yeah, so, um, click on the picture and it comes up to the vote.

Okay.

Um, so the voting mechanism there, I'm only advocating just the free votes.

I want to win on the free votes, but this is, this is your pay for extra.

So

yesterday I paid quite a bit of money to

say what's behind

it.

What you went first.

This is for the James Beard, which he

of scholarships to culinary students.

So he's trying to promote like Martha Stewart.

He's the old fashioned Martha Stewart.

So this is the prize money is $25,000.

I'm

not

taking a penny of that.

I work for the Wabino School District and this is for scholarship monies.

So every penny that I would win on this is gonna go to

scholarship.

but the student would have an interest in culinary field.

So is it for college or is it for programs right while they're in high school?

No, this would be just for college.

So graduating senior for the next five years, we get $5,000.

Wow.

You know, it's kind of cool to, I mean, Jim and I were talking about this for the show, because we're big advocates of tech schools, okay, and trade.

And there's a graph, I wanted to print it, but I didn't know how.

But anyway,

Same reason can't vote

it was

high schools now when they you know when they have these And then there's always been problems millage yada yada yada a lot of that money now with a lot of those things are going into Upgrading their tech schools at the high schools

and

these kids are literally walking to hundred thousand dollar jobs But the other one Jim this is what I wanted to bring up the other part when they do these things is the cult cool in their colony the

They're upgrading that because so many

kids

are looking at that now as a career.

And

that's one of the new things they're really upgrading with high school.

We had one student go to the Culinary Institute of America.

She's probably finishing it now.

It's a two-year program out of Wabino.

I mean, it used to be

home acting.

But now

they're taking this real serious.

And there's an event coming up at the Rush Center.

I don't know if you're familiar with that.

I forgot the name of it, but I'm judging for the... And these kids that are...

And I'm the judge for the youngest kids, but it's like eight to 12.

That's pretty cool to be into it at that young age.

And then they have all these seniors and adults.

But yeah, Bill Jartz is one of the judges.

And the interest that they have, they couldn't believe how many people.

This is only the second year.

They couldn't believe the interest they have in a culinary program.

And that's something else.

It's fun, but you can be creative.

But

you

also make a little money, too.

It's

a career.

It's a good career.

Absolutely.

Especially if you get to the resort that you can ski for free.

You know what I mean?

Like if you get in Colorado or down at

Hildon.

I'm so old.

I'm so old.

I remember a home ec teacher and started this one.

Girls, this is the most important class you'll ever have in your entire life, because this is going to make your husband's hat.

Oh, wow.

Wow.

Not at all.

Wow.

My senior year, it took the whole Mac class because I needed an elective.

A year and a half after taking the elective, I was cooking for the president.

Shut

up.

That's pretty cool.

Your career is pretty amazing.

I mean, you're obviously very talented.

You were at the right place at the right

time.

Right place at the right time.

So I was supposed to go to Turkey.

They canceled those orders when I was 18 years old.

I got to Langley Air Force Base, which is Air Combat Command headquarters.

Airmen of the Year, I got to fly in F-15.

And then so that's them in Santa flights and stuff they give you

okay.

Hey Dan brick if you're listening

The

thing about let me drive a tractor.

Yeah,

you just

got you just got beat out by F-35s down

in the 150 in Madison Yeah, sitting the back seat they offered me a second incentive flight when I was in Madison and I found out I was too heavy

Really?

Yeah, so the ejector seats only push up 212 pounds.

And that's what the command chief told me.

He's like, if you want to lose that 12 pounds, Tom, I'm like.

I've been

on one.

I'm

not going

to lose.

John, could you

fly in there?

That's good incentive.

Get on the treadmill.

I could have flew out of Madison.

I was the NCO of the year down

there.

I gotta be honest.

That seems like one of the scariest things in the world is to be ejected when you go to like 200, 300 miles.

I don't know how fast those

things

go.

Yeah.

Actually, I thought that was a joke.

I'm like, I never heard of an F-15 crash, but I think Madison had two.

No, there's a reason.

One of the

most surreal things I've ever experienced in my life was a couple of years ago, let me go on one of those things.

Well, they did, it's like a media thing.

You've probably done

it.

Yeah.

When

they let you go on these, a tanker, and we went up to like Duluth.

Yeah, that's cool.

And whatever came up next to us to get refueled, and they're going, what, 500 miles an hour?

I don't even know.

And it's like, Todd, right there.

You can see

them, yeah.

They're

sitting right there, and there's a pilot.

Right on the other side of that glass going.

Or 500 miles an hour refuel like that.

And then he did a little saluting.

That's

cool.

If you're flying one of them and you got two F-15s coming up beside you.

Yeah.

Wow.

Hey, you know, I gotta tell you something.

I watch

a screen special

the other night on 9 11.

Okay.

On Bush, where he was with he was in Sarasota, Florida with that.

little school, and

they're

reading, okay, and when they whispered to them and everything, and their whole thing was, sir, we must get you in the air, we must get you in the air, we must get you in the air.

So they took to the air, and they're coming out with things that were disclosed for a while, and they said, there's F-15s, I think there were four of them flanking them, and they flew over the Gulf of Mexico to get out, okay?

And the missionals, F-15s, was if any surface-to-air missiles came up, whatever, they wouldn't shoot it down.

they would get in and they would take the brunt of it.

So

it was a suicide mission for those guys when they went up.

They were going to block it.

They were going to

block

it.

They were

going

to take the missile.

Wow.

I know they went up really high.

I know they changed that.

That's a special break.

Hey, what are

you doing?

I

don't

know.

I don't know.

I would have flown higher, but I don't know that I would have done that.

Oh, son of a god, he missed

me.

That'd be me.

Stick around, Tom.

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You just let that play.

Just

love it, man.

Love it.

I remember watching a basketball game.

Marquette against the University of West Virginia,

okay?

And Marquette won and the coach was Buzz, what was his name?

Buzz, Buzz, Buzz, no.

Buzz, whatever.

He was the head coach at Marquette.

Did a great.

Buzz Williams.

And so the game was over and he's walking over to do the post game show.

to the radio guys like okay and he's walked across and at the end of every West Virginia game they play this song

yeah

it's like they're okay

like the

theme and he's walked across the the thing and he's like right by the logo and he starts dancing oh my gosh they had to break away from the post game show because the people were

Swearing it.

They

wanted to kill him for dancing on the logo of that song.

They take that song real serious.

I can see that.

We got some more entries for our Minor the Mayor bingo card.

This is from Tori.

That might be

me.

That's good Tori.

Another one.

Tina says quads and thighs.

That's going to be the first one called.

Another one from Alex.

Negani.

Absolutely.

This is Dan Brick.

I will give Mino a tractor if I could.

have a ride in the F-15.

This is to you, Don.

That's a good deal.

Dennis, they'll give you a tractor drive if he can get a ride in F-15.

This is so fun, man.

That's a

good deal.

Love it.

Great.

So we're at Tom's Square, Jim.

Advanced to the quarter finals of Taste of Home's favorite chef.

And again, he's not doing this for himself or Gloria or anything like that.

He's trying to earn some scholarship money for kids from the O'Connell Falls area,

right?

Wabino.

Wabino school district.

And you work there?

Yeah, I'm a nutritionist at the Wabino school

district.

with your background, you've won this before, you need to win it again.

And all the money goes to help these kids when they get out of high school to go into a culinary field.

It's just a college scholarship to the seniors.

Oh, all right.

Yep.

You would probably lean.

Oh, absolutely.

All the military stories I tell, I'm like, that's

probably the best career you could

go

into.

Well, that's

great.

That is a great

career.

Although, I will say, there's pressure on that too,

isn't there?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, the brass.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Well, it's sometimes it's not what you cook, it's who you

cook for.

Yeah.

And they may not give you the advance notice that you would like.

Right.

Those guys parachute in from anywhere, you know?

Yeah, that's true.

So.

Did Bill Clinton really like peanut butter sandwiches and things like

that?

Didn't he like

everything?

Well, they had, they, when he came into, because they had a special meal with Secretary Cohen, when he came in there, there was so many people that were watching what you were doing.

Yeah, you don't deviate from anything.

People were watching you prepare it.

People watched you bring it up there.

People watched you plate it.

They don't want you slipping anything in there.

So it's secret service and two.

So if they are in the Pentagon when they have contractors come in like electricians and stuff, I had a secret service guy outside our kitchen sitting in the ceiling watching an electrician do his job.

Wow

three days straight ten-hour days and and we knew this guy.

He was around us all the time That's his whole job.

He's just sitting in the ceiling with this electrician.

Okay, you gotta do you gotta tell the story about Dick Cheney.

Oh, yeah, so when I was in when I my first deploy or my second deployment to The UAE so we were outside of Dubai Dick Cheney was there with the Air Force to I guess is what you call it his aircraft was parked out on

tarmac and I was a flight line dining facility manager and uh so we were we were taking care of the flight line people and uh so

The chief Saromsky was the chief of the flight line was taking us for a tour and we got to go underneath Air Force one and We got to do a lot of stuff except for we didn't get access to it.

Sure because they didn't secure the Equipment in there.

So like everybody else was asking for like postcards or something off of Air Force one I wanted the presidential M&M right And he came back sergeant.

Sorry sergeant swearing we can't do that Dick Cheney has a heart condition

And there's no M&Ms on it.

Guys, the VP doesn't have the discipline.

Take it away.

Take it away.

So

yeah, that's cool.

All right.

So what is this contest?

When can we vote?

How can we vote?

So I have, I think the best way to vote is to probably get onto your website.

Okay.

And hopefully

we can.

Todd, can you jump in here, buddies?

Yep.

I'll put it on our blog page.

So go to www.gbw.fm or wyss.fm.

Click on mine on the mayor.

Look at this hour's notes.

We'll put it right in there for you.

So

there'll be a link on there.

I'm promoting, I want to win with just free votes.

And I've gotten this far with just free votes.

You can vote once every 24 hours, but they do have a link that you can donate money.

This is a fundraiser for the James Beard.

So you can vote, but when you vote and you pay for and you donate money, every dollar that you donate to the James Beard is a vote for me.

credit cards they take.

It's

just very easy to do.

Very easy to do.

You'll be done in like three minutes and a votes will register for me.

Voting for the quarterfinals ends tonight at nine o'clock.

Oh,

okay.

We're on it.

Please help us out.

And again, nobody's making any money.

Nobody's making a dime on this.

It's all going to help kids for scholarships in the Wabino School

District.

Wabino School District and also for the James Beard Foundation.

So it's a win-win for both foundations.

Tell me, I think I asked you last.

Who's James Beard?

James Beard was, um, he would be like the first month of Stuart.

So like in the early early guy or whatever.

So he would be before the food network was there.

Uh, that was James Beard.

Is he still around?

Uh, no, no,

that's cool.

I guess so every all the money that he had, he created a foundation to help call their yards and to promote it.

And again, like the home X teacher told the girls in 1972, this is such an important class because it'll make your husband's happy.

Man, get her back.

I'm sure I'll

get

a couple emails.

This is cool

stuff, Todd.

And do you tell kids some of your military stories?

Yeah.

Well, the nice thing about, so my family's heard this for years and years and years.

Nice thing.

about I do summer school.

So I teach a class in summer school as well, as well as feeding them.

Every year I get new students.

So it's the first time they've ever heard of these students.

We got 30

seconds.

One more thing.

Pump your

brunch.

Oh, Pine Hills.

I also work at a golf course.

Pine Hills in Gresham or Bowler.

Every Sunday, there's a brunch from 10 until 2.

What do you have?

Everything.

Prime Rib.

I'm the guy out front making omelets, sharing my military stories.

Love it!

Tom, how do we vote?

Go to the website and click on the link.

Super Media.

Beautiful.

Mine or the Mayor?

I was fun having you here, Tom.

Thanks, Tom.

Best of luck.

Thank you.

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Hey, welcome back!

Come on in the mayor.

Great guess we've had so far today.

Dan Brick from Brickstead Farms.

We've got the breakfast on the farm coming up on Sunday, June 1st, eight until noon.

But there's a church service, which is really cool at seven in the barn.

And it's rain

or

shine, or in the tent, yeah.

Waste site dairy, 7937 Stone Road, Greenleaf.

Please get out there, support this, support our dairy farmers.

They are the salt of the earth.

And ironically, we've got two guys here that grew up on dairy farms.

These

guys, these guys don't know what a dairy farm.

Hey, I go to the farm.

I'm serving John's gonna drive a tractor.

I'm gonna be serving breakfast.

Yes.

He lived

in area of Paris with the Green Bay Prescosette and these poor guys Todd was up

It's so wonderful to get up early, come in, whatever.

And first of all, Jim puts on his political cap and starts

getting out of it.

It was offline.

It was online.

I get none of them, but it was more like social.

Right.

OK.

It was conversation-related.

You know what story

you guys need to do?

We'd like to thank

you.

OK, with Jeremy, that one I'm talking about, I think would be a great story.

There were prisoner of war camps in Northeast Wisconsin, and they brought over German prisoners.

Okay, German troops, Nazi troops during World War II, okay?

And they brought him over here to work on the farms in this area.

But one of the problems they had is, and like Dan said, was it 1848?

His family goes through from Ireland, okay?

So you'd have these farms that were Germans, okay?

Heritage, and...

They treated these guys like they were bringing them food and pies and wanting to socialize the ladies and yada

yada yada

that they had to I talked to one guy they had a they used to have like a dance for the and they had to shut those things down because so they just and they were you know and the thing is these weren't s s Nazis these were conscripts these were 19 year old kids who were drafted

okay and

didn't want to you know whatever whatever I

could file

and they loved it over here

They fought to stay in Northeast Wisconsin.

They didn't want to go back to Germany.

But what the government did then is they got obliterated where the things were.

And I think that'd be a great story.

That's just a pending question.

Everywhere I go, they ask about that.

I know, right?

I

know.

Hey, could you guys look away while I punch him?

So, could you look into that, Jeremy?

Well, that looks, that sounds really interesting.

How did you find out about this, though?

I'm a historian.

Yeah, I was

gonna say, you read a book and it was... I'm a

historian, okay?

Ariel?

Wow, okay.

Wow.

So, what are you working on?

I love reading your stuff.

I mean I get the paper every day a lot of people do Interesting stuff.

You guys get

your figure

out

for two young guys to come into this area and Get so acclimated and what's going on over around here is really cool

to me I think it's like the old days and see who wrote it.

Yeah, you're like the sports guy Yeah, the sports guy we have on all time.

Yeah, it's got no it's got Ben see Ben see yeah, yeah, he's a great writer as well.

So anyway, what are you working on?

You go first.

You're putting me on this spot.

Well, there's stuff about homelessness in the area.

That's also always a problem that I hear about people talking about that are concerned.

Speeding.

Oh, thank you.

There's a I

live right upstairs here.

You can't at night.

I mean you have to close your windows.

They look it's it's it reminds you of Wisconsin International Raceway at the drag strips.

They'll go up and down on Walnut here.

They'll drag race like you can't and so loud and they're going like 105.

I don't know how it's unbelievable.

You should know what you should do under a good story.

I'll tell you something.

Go to Metro.

The apartment complex, okay, and go up to one of the upstairs there and sit there with a camera or something And or if you can get a speed gun like a baseball speed gun and see the noise and the in the speed factor you'll be shocked from 7 till 9 Wow

police

would do how about noise pollution?

I think this city has gotten so loud I mean the view in the mayor this afternoon as a matter of fact for the show on Sunday and that's on my list is

We used to, back in the day, go up with the, what is it, 80 decibels?

I forgot where our law is.

And they would test it.

And it's not a lot of people, but it's a lot of the same people that's very annoying.

And it's loud.

And I mean, I'm not just talking about motorcycle

racing.

It's

unbelievable.

It's unbelievable.

On Monroe, down here.

And it's just in your face.

It's like someone driving by your front yard, just throwing trash on there.

It's just so disrespectful.

We don't do anything in this city.

This is a loud loud city.

It is

yes,

it is I just every time I come by it's so quiet Yeah, maybe it's the

time of

day.

I was gonna say you

know a couple guys from actual cities

I was

gonna

say that but I you know,

we're

okay Just so you guys know

who you're talking to you're talking those two guys from the Muppet show up the balcony That's who

we

are just so you know that going into

it.

Okay, you guys seem like you love you love it You guys you

guys can sit here and say oh, yeah, you and you guys gonna walk over there.

Oh my god, are those two?

I mean I'm not talking about now It

sounds to me that isn't there the cops aren't right there on Walton

They

don't they don't hear that I mean

They know they hear it you gotta be deaf to not hear you hear it.

It's just you don't act on it Okay, it's kind of I'll give you another example at the next break, but anyway We are

guys

though

that

I've heard a lot of things about speeding so that is something that it is that's that's like a

scary thing at times,

but if they're

quiet

Yeah So I gotta ask you guys, what's been your most fun story that you've done here the one you feel the best about

oh Most fun well the most fun stories are my reader columns.

I love writing those because you get you get more of my voice I think and you know, I there's more I love to have fun with the writing

The most impactful story I would say was the story about the dad who waited two years for a four-way stop at the intersection of Eliza for his deaf and blind son.

I had a lot of conversations with him and got to know him a lot.

And I felt that that was one of the stories that I came here to do, to show people

side of you know it kind of shows the human side of

are you shocked at all because you're not jaded yet

I'm not jaded no okay no

are you surprised at all where you've got something where it's like well everybody would agree to this

Because it's common sense.

This is good for whatever.

And people for whatever reason, they just want to go against it.

Almost like no matter what it is, they have to be a foil.

Are you surprised sometimes at that?

The pushback?

I'm not

surprised.

No, no.

Maybe it's because I grew up seeing a lot of different things as a kid.

But I mean, it's understandable.

Are you talking about like?

Well, that story.

Neighbors.

Yeah.

Neighbors like wanting a stop sign.

and

not wanting

it.

You

don't need a stop sign.

I don't care if the kids, whatever it's like.

Well,

a lot of the neighbors in that case, they didn't want a stop

sign.

I know they did, but other people, the ones that like, how could you not want this?

The ones that don't live

there.

Yes, exactly.

But they just want to get their, you know, their voice heard somehow.

Where are you from originally,

Jeremy?

From, I mean, that's hard to say, Virginia.

Okay.

In the mountains of Virginia is where I grew up for most of my childhood.

Cool.

So, and then I kind of moved around to kind of like the suburbs and then like, uh, Maryland, Maryland, right across the border.

Where'd you go to college?

Uh, I went to Georgetown.

I tried my best.

I'll tell you what, I spent one, when we went to Walter Reed hospital on time with the, uh, the wires and we were out in the town of Georgetown, the city of Georgetown.

That'd be such a cool place to go to school.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's like I love history personally.

So it was like really cool with being like, oh, wow, these buildings are so old.

What a

cool area that is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And people are like, well, you have to like keep you can't change anything about the neighborhood.

It has to look that way because of like, you know, ordinances and rules.

Why can't they win?

Um.

There always has to be winners and looters.

I know but with George Thompson what they

had it was or John Thompson It was like amazing and you think that's gonna be one of those basketball programs That's just a heritage program.

They're all like a Duke and it's like man.

I mean they changed their coach I think right when I was graduating okay doesn't seem like yeah things have changed though I don't know maybe we're maybe we're cursed but Hoya

paranoia.