Veterans’ Voices & The Malcores (Hour 2)

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Veterans’ Voices & The Malcores (Hour 2)

Maino and the Mayor · Wed May 21, 2025

John Mino (host)

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

Todd (technical producer)

And

John Mino (host)

here are your hosts, John Mino

Jim Schmidt (host)

and Jim Schmidt.

Good morning.

Cold morning.

I do not want to start the day out where people are tuning in and thinking, hey, I want to hear Mino and the Mayor and Todd or the guy behind the window, whatever it is.

I want to hear that.

So I told somebody yes, I said just contact Todd I commonly refer to know as the guy behind the other side of the window We

John Mino (host)

talked about that guys.

Jim Schmidt (host)

No, I just want to say we don't want to bring you all down

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with weather I mean

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give him give him about a three-word synopsis of the weather outside right now

John Mino (host)

Very cold and and

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windy and wet and

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17 degrees off course.

Yeah

Yeah,

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I mean this is truly 20.

Yeah, I mean put a little heavier coat of the kids if they're at the bus stop today type of thing It is cold and icky.

Yeah, we get this out of our system.

We do man enough of this

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I think I think we're looking at a good weekend though though Not

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bad not bad chili well compared to this but it's not rainy.

We'll take it right

Todd (technical producer)

Yeah,

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this would be terrible for Memorial Day.

Yeah terrible because you ever that everything in a moral days outside everything

everything.

So anyway, so it's 46 in Green Bay, 45 in Alton, 45 in Oshkosh.

It is breezy.

It is raining high possibly in the mid 50s today on meditation day.

I'm going to do that today.

I'm going to meditate.

It's national tea day.

You know, I was actually- I

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can't let you just get off with that.

What do

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you

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mean?

You're going to meditate.

Jim Schmidt (host)

I'm going to

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meditate.

What are you going to?

Are you going to get a video?

Are you going to read something?

Do you know how to meditate?

I'm going to get into my mantra.

You see the rosary that's I'll sit

Jim Schmidt (host)

cross-legged.

SPEAKER_??

Yep.

Todd (technical producer)

I'll watch that

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happen.

Yeah, well, if it's the rosary, that's gonna be about a minute and a half.

They used to blaze through that thing like you can't believe it's the repair.

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It's the repetitiveness of the like a mantra like

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I was I was meditation day.

Hmm.

SPEAKER_??

Yep.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Yep.

SPEAKER_??

Yep.

Jim Schmidt (host)

It's tea day.

I was actually you know I've got that list of ten things of the only ten things I'm gonna eat for the rest of my life Yeah, yeah, and with the green tea thing I was actually reading about that how to try to me because it admits It is like the most bitter tea you'll ever taste and the main thing they're saying is you know, honey But which is for anything obviously But there are some other you know I got to learn more like even that thing the other one of my ten things that are the only things I'm gonna eat for the rest of my life the Konova Cornia

No, you're talking about that.

So I think there are certain more natural type sweeteners out there I have to explore.

Todd (technical producer)

Agave is good.

Agave,

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that's

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one of them too.

That's very good.

Where do you buy agave?

Anywhere.

I had probably not the dollar store, but I know you can get it at any grocery store.

All these?

I think I've gotten it there.

Okay.

Yeah.

I need to get that.

I need to get that.

John Mino (host)

I don't know if that's on your list though.

See what, the reason they gave you 10 things, it's 10 things and that's it.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Well, yeah, but one of the things- You can't like add stuff to it, so it's like okay.

One of the things is green tea and I just, I know it's phenomenal for you.

I would live to 112 if I start drinking green

Todd (technical producer)

tea.

So I have an idea for you.

Yeah.

Green tea, get some peppermint or spearmint tea to go with it and then it's not so bad.

Oh really?

Yeah.

Okay, I'll try that.

Little honey, but a little spearmint or peppermint tea.

Yeah.

Mix it.

Jim Schmidt (host)

I saw a thing, a little meme said, I switched from my morning coffee to my morning green tea and within 20 seconds, I absolutely lose my will to live.

Todd (technical producer)

That's how I

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feel

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right now,

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right?

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You know, to go that extreme, you should maybe, you got to go off course a little bit, a little bit, right?

Jim Schmidt (host)

Not that guy.

I'm a real

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follower.

I'm not going to give up coffee.

I mean, I'll give up a lot of stuff and I'll exercise, but I'm not giving up coffee that no, I won't give up cheese.

No, no, no, no, no.

I could never give up cheese.

SPEAKER_??

Right.

John Mino (host)

Well, that's not on your list.

It's 11.

Okay.

Tomorrow it's going to be 12 and

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I color outside the lines.

Yeah.

Brian says, always great to wear flannel in May.

Hey, boys.

Terry says rest in peace George went from Cheers I know yeah, I saw a bunch of tributes, but you know what nobody talks about about what he did

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what's that

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the Schwartz key The Bears

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oh, yeah on Saturday night.

Yeah, that's right.

Yes, that

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bears

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I mean that

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was legendary what he did with that.

Well,

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yeah, that's true

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and nobody ever talking cheers, which is great But that made a big impact.

Yeah, that was one of those cultural things.

How did he die?

Stop breathing.

Okay.

Okay, dad

I'm not sure how I

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was just

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wondering you died in a sleep.

Did he yeah, that's good way to go.

I can sleep.

All right.

Is it?

Well,

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yes.

Yes, it is John.

John, you don't want to see if you ever seen anyone die of cancer.

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I don't want to know you don't

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know why

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because I want to get stuff taken care of ahead of time.

You know what I

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mean?

You never know what they do

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and I'm new on this new diet.

I'm gonna live for 20 years

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I'm

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fine.

Um,

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anyway, I think it was a great actor.

Todd (technical producer)

Well, very funny.

What I liked about obviously a great actor and he was great in that character.

But when he tried to do other things, I had a hard time.

Oh, yeah.

So he did like he did a Colombo episode is the murderer, right?

Jim Schmidt (host)

Oh, I didn't know that.

Todd (technical producer)

He was really Todd's like, what?

What's going on

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there?

No, we're just

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talking about

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Leslie Nielsen.

How last night.

I watched five minutes of Naked Gun and I laughed minimum three times burst out laughing in a five minute segment.

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That guy's out.

Yeah, it's laugh out loud.

He is funny.

And that's, you know, I was telling you, that wasn't his thing.

He was kind of a

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Shakespeare type, more professional.

He played a lot of bad guys when he was younger.

You watched the Twilight Zone.

I bet he was in five episodes of the old Twilight Zone and played bad guys.

Yeah.

Played like killers and stuff.

Yeah,

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I just, you know, he.

I bet he was approachable to it.

I don't know he died, but he lived in Florida, right

Jim Schmidt (host)

buddy of mine Oh, I thought it was LA Well, I don't know buddy of mine that I've had on the show your Greg Sportscaster I worked with forever in LA He did one of the Jerry Lewis telephones with with Leslie Nielsen was kind of the guys and they'd be standing there right before they go out these people kind of nervous this

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right

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and he had one of the

I knew what you were going to say, right?

The little fart boxes

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in his hands.

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Yeah.

He'd do that right before

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these people went

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on and he'd look at them like,

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God, he was on, he was on Conan O'Brien one night and he's just sitting there talking and all of a sudden, and then he go, Oh yeah.

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Cause he did that at the telephone.

Todd (technical producer)

Yeah.

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Greg said,

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Oh,

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that's funny.

Okay.

So by the way, watched the far thing last night.

Yeah, you said that.

Um, I'm, how do I put this?

Disappointed in.

That they didn't put more in more effort into it.

It was an hour long It just assumed to be one of those two hour type things, but I nothing came out that we haven't known For a lot.

I mean the Jen Sturger things horrible terrible.

Okay.

Yes.

All over the wait.

Here was that 2014

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no early than

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that.

Well, yeah, I mean is the first team after the Packers 1112 it was anyway.

Yeah, that but that was big

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news for a

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long

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time

I

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mean, you're talking 15 years

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or whatever.

Who did it?

I mean, what was it?

What was it?

Jim Schmidt (host)

It was Netflix.

They've been doing they did.

But but here's the here's the deal.

They did want an urban Meyer as well.

OK, urban Meyer when he was at the University of Florida.

had the most outlaw team in the history of college sports.

I mean, it was beyond belief.

Aaron Hernandez, who, you know, should be in prison, he killed himself in prison, but, you know, killed guys and whatever.

And they kind of glossed over that.

With far of everything was a negative type thing.

And I mean, again, how do you hide it?

I mean, those things did happen, but it's like, okay, yep, yep, we know about that, the Jens Sturger, oh yeah.

Okay, and then he did that, yep.

chased and whatever.

Okay.

And then it came to the thing in Mississippi, which pretty hard to justify what he did on that.

I'm going to be totally honest with you.

You can't.

I mean, and the part that got me and Burke Griffin and I even text back a little bit last night watching it.

And the part that got me, we've been in the business of a thousand years.

We've done 4,000 PSAs with people.

Okay.

We don't know a single person that got paid.

to do a PSA.

That's right.

It's called a public service.

Public service announcement.

So you'll pay that.

Right.

And we have PSAs

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going on all the

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time.

Aaron Jones did a really great one for Joe Olex's group here with the Brown County Veterans Association.

Driver did a ton of them.

Driver did.

And you don't even expect to get paid.

Maybe somehow Bus Cook said, well, he's got to get a little something for the effort.

But for him saying he got the million dollars that he personally got was to do a couple of

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PSAs.

that he knows

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that one doesn't pass the smell test as they say

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yeah that's just a tremendous amount of money and unless he raised a hundred million out of it which he didn't

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right

I don't know that what that's of all the things that's what's like Yeah, come on man.

Yeah, we both know nobody gets a million dollars for a PSA

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And he's done PSAs before is

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that a million of them

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and he never got

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I don't like

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you said I don't know but I yeah We've never paid anybody for a PSA especially coming from a poverty organization,

Todd (technical producer)

right?

And the guys got plenty of money

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If

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you would have sent it to a charity or something like that, you

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know

And another one, and again, you know, last time I talked to Brett, it was when I was doing the golf, the Rocky Blair golf tournament, and I emailed him and said, Hey, Brett, could we, if I sent you some stuff, which I sent me back every single, I bet I sent him 10 items, autographed every one.

So I mean, he's, you know, there's, there's two sides of people, you know, just because a guy does something that, you know, possibly is really, really bad.

I mean, nothing's been proven in court yet.

It's still trying, you know, whatever.

I guess, right where it's at.

But what I'm saying is- I don't think he

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charged- He didn't get charged.

He didn't get- No

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formal charges, right?

No, they

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took the other people down, but

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he didn't get

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charged.

Todd (technical producer)

Okay.

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So I don't think that's going to court.

So I don't know if I have to use the word alleged with all this.

Todd (technical producer)

Yeah, I really should, but- Alleged.

But again, to your point, like, all the stuff that he has done that's good, and he's done a lot of good in the community, nothing of that was touched on.

Not even a slightest bit of anything good.

No.

You saw it.

I saw bits of it.

What did you

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think?

Again, I was just disappointed kind of in it not trying to be an apologist in any way shape or form for but but I was just it's like that was easy for them to do.

You know what I'm saying?

Let's just get a whole bunch of old stuff and get Jen Sturger to sit there and talk once again how after 15 years she still can't get a job

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and they sell a few ads

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and they and boom.

Yeah.

I mean, not defending them.

I'm just saying Netflix could have done a much, much better job.

Thought in putting it all together.

What do you people think anybody else see it?

Texas let us know what you thought about that Some of those are

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pretty good though

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like some are great and I was expecting that I

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like the

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I just want to say if I could have a dream job if somebody came down So okay John you've been such a great guy and whatever whatever and that's

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that's a dream

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And we're gonna let you have your dream job other than a well Oh, that's another thing we got to talk about other than a welder or carpenter Okay, or heavy equipment operator.

Yeah, all right Mine would be putting together documentaries

Todd (technical producer)

I can see you doing a good job with that.

Wouldn't that be fun?

That would be my dream job.

What's stopping you from doing that?

You?

John Mino (host)

That's not way out there for you.

You could do that.

You could start business and do documentaries.

Todd (technical producer)

I mean, it's really no different than your books, right?

But with the documentary you'd be playing.

By the

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way, I had a nice talk with Tori yesterday.

Put

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him on PBS.

Todd (technical producer)

Tori

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Wittenbach.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Had a nice thing with her.

She's all in on doing that.

book on women's basketball for UW Green Bay.

Good.

Isn't that great?

Yeah.

I think that's gonna be really cool.

Me too.

That program is one of the most underrated programs in the country for its size to be worried because you'd have to, you know, the thing is for the GB fans that have gone on the road, although GB now has phenomenal facilities.

GB's facilities will rival anybody in the conference.

Okay.

But years ago, when that's all they had was the women's basketball court.

Did you even, were you ever there?

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No, I never got into

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it.

And they pull out the bleachers just to

You have you literally have intramural classes until like six or whatever then they would clear out then they pull up the bleachers never do a vision one basketball game Yeah, so for them to build the program to be on that and they won when they're like that So what they with those coaches and everybody a GB has done for that women's basketball program over the years I think one of the best mid-major stories in the country.

Yeah,

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hey, I saw this we were talking men's basketball.

See that guy they got

Which one is 28?

Oh,

Jim Schmidt (host)

no, I didn't.

I missed it.

I didn't see it.

I didn't see it.

28.

No!

20.

That's that's old.

Why are they taking guys that young?

Yeah,

Todd (technical producer)

Norm.

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All

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right.

What was

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your favorite norm line?

Todd (technical producer)

It's a dog eat dog world.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Another good one is, um, how's the cold beer sound, Norm?

I don't know, like, drink before it has a chance to talk.

All right, we got to set a quick break.

We got a great lineup for you, folks.

We'll be back right

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after

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this.

Mine (Host)

Hey, welcome back.

Mine on the mayor here on a cold and windy and breezy.

You know what this reminds me of?

Late October high school football games where those last few games are just kind of crappy.

That's why I'm glad today is meditation day, so I'm not even gonna worry about it once I get my mantra with my green tea on tea day and cultural diversity.

My mantra.

I don't think that's the correct use of that word, really.

In my meditation class.

Yeah, it is interesting It's eat more fruits and vegetables day.

All

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right.

You go.

I'm all into that

Mine (Host)

It's waitstaff day great.

I didn't know waitstaff had a day all three of my kids have been waiters bartenders things like that God bless them.

I never have enough.

I always wanted to be You you know what I believe that yeah,

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I'd love to be

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Well, you saw me in action

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that night.

No John

Everybody should be wait staff everybody.

I agree.

That should be like a like going to high school and study.

They say that

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in retail.

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Yeah, it's all the same.

It's dealing with people that you think are nice and boy they can they just think it's at the top.

I wasn't waiting for years.

That's that's a tough job.

You're gonna humble

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yourself.

Watch out.

Now is that it's cross street the other night watching the Brewer's Game and Hagermeister and the one girl was training this other girl and it's like, wow, you gotta know a lot of stuff.

Yep.

And they

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just

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ask how this one drink is made.

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Well, that's

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triple sec, not the so-and-so,

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you

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know, off the top of their heads.

And it's like, oh,

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yeah.

Or would they just totally ignore you?

You know, you're standing there.

You want to get an order?

And they just keep talking.

It's like, hey, come on.

I got other people with.

Yeah, I just,

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but I think everybody should be a waiter.

I

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agree.

Waitress.

Waitress.

Got

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a text here from one of my boys.

Or retail.

Said, far of documentary was a complete waste of time.

There was nothing new in it.

Yeah,

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that's kind of how life,

Mine (Host)

yeah Some texts here for cowboy day of the times I saw Phoenix women's basketball online or in television at opponents gyms There are maybe 40 or 50 people in the stands in Green Bay They have hundreds of people thousands at times the people they sold out that press yeah Hard to believe cheers last show was May 20th 1993 loved NBC Thursday nights back in the day Terry not even a question.

We've talked about that before This is a terrible thing

It's a terrible thing.

I used to so look forward to Thursday nights.

Um, I was working in Flint, Michigan and we had it.

Fridays were so big with high school basketball that I'd always take Thursday night off.

I'd walk, work during the morning and get stuff done, but I always take Thursday night off because then I'd work Friday night, Saturday night and Sunday nights.

All right.

So whatever.

So I was looking forward to Thursday, order a big pizza, sit in there, opening credits to cheers comes on.

It's going to be cheers, St.

Elsa and Hill Street Blues and my wife.

Um, my water just broke.

And I had my first piece of pizza up here as the cheers theme was coming on.

And it sounds horrible.

But I want to say,

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can I

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just watch it?

Can I just do it in time for this?

Well, I'll never forget that.

In fact, when I hear the cheers theme song, I think about that sometimes.

Really?

Yeah.

Really?

That was 30 years ago.

The last 32.

Wow.

Guest/Contributor (possibly John)

Yeah.

Yeah.

32.

Mine (Host)

Wow.

Well, well, well, happy birthday, Cody Johnson, country singer, Judge Reinhold.

He got off to a phenomenal start and kind of plateaued out, huh?

Um, yeah, I mean, he's, I don't know if he's doing much right now.

He started real young with fast times at Ridgemont High.

Yeah.

And then he had a bunch of, well, then he has Beverly Hills cop.

That's right.

All those and I don't know ever since Al Franken 74.

He missed

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one.

We

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missed

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one.

Mine (Host)

Oh, I did miss one.

Mr. T.

73 seems like he should be older.

There's a guy that

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didn't he kind of fade?

Well, he had yeah, he had it.

You

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know, he was the one trick pony.

Yeah.

Guest/Contributor (possibly John)

He yeah, anyway, although I gotta be honest not a good neighbor though.

Remember he cut all those trees down I hate people coming in and just like I'm so so like that guy owned us Redskins too, right of the Redskins, whatever they're called monument now or whatever

Yeah, he cut all those trees down and the neighbors are like, what are you doing?

Remember that?

Mine (Host)

Yeah, I gotta

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buy.

So find me.

You

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know, which is true.

Sexual limitations has passed and he's gone.

But Lindy and Fonte told me when they were coaching in the USFL, I think it might have been Jacksonville or someplace like that.

And they all got fired right before Christmas.

And the guy had this, the owner had this big, long winding driveway.

Lindy and the assistant coaches never cut down trees for the Christmas trees.

There you go.

I love that story.

Yeah, that's a good one.

Um, who else?

L. Frank at 74?

His career went.

Boy.

Guest/Contributor (possibly John)

Yeah, it did.

But you know what?

He, he can be a comedian, but when you're in a senator, I mean, come on, a U.S.

Senator.

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Leo Sayer.

1977, ironically, 77 years old.

Oh, I hit the post.

No, you didn't.

You

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walked over and

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I didn't.

No, you didn't.

No, you didn't.

No, you didn't.

No.

No.

Go ahead, John.

Ronald Isley one of the Isley Brothers.

Yep.

I imagine.

Yep

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What you bummed out cuz you walked all over?

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Isley Brothers Um, it's your thing do what

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you want to

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do what you

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want to

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do Dorsi Leavens 55 boy that era you know when I started covering the Packers the glory your guys were like 55

And Dorsey is 55.

How

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come we never had another glory years?

And we kind of did.

Mine (Host)

We did.

We had a chance to have one.

I'm going to tell you something.

That 1997

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team

Mine (Host)

was better than the 1996 team.

And they went into that Super Bowl.

Mike Holmgren, whatever you want to say about him.

God bless him.

That team was not prepared.

They were overconfident.

Guest/Contributor (possibly John)

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

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Like, you can't believe

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they were so overconfident.

You felt

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it going into the game.

I mean, you knew they were

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going to mess up.

It

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was one of those things for anybody that's ever gambled, you know, on games

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and whatever,

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where you talk to people, it's like, this is such a sure thing.

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You got a

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lock.

You got a better.

This is a lot.

I'm telling you, I was talking to a guy.

OK.

And they've never worked out.

SPEAKER_??

No.

Mine (Host)

They those never work out and it was that same thing all week in San Diego Yeah, all week.

That's all it was right again And we had I told us we had Bruce Costlett was the head coach of Cincinnati Bengals at the time me and McCarron did a thing with him and he would get done He goes are we on are we off?

Yeah, we're off.

He goes you guys kill me ain't gonna be a game I mean that was the whole theme all week and it got

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to their fans in their fans.

Yeah, I Did it got to they should have

Mine (Host)

won then they should have won the next year in San Francisco that

Steve Young falling down and to 12 Owens catches that pass.

We've lost

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a lot of

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so many

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Here's John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Jim Schmidt

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

Mino and the Mayor here on a blustery Wednesday morning being joined right now by Cheese Curd Nick, who's be wearing that big old hoodie tonight at the Farmers Market.

Well, we kicked off the Farmers

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Market tonight.

We do.

Look at this.

Look it out there.

It's gonna be great.

Jim Schmidt

Does this remind you of a

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late

Cheese Curd Nick

October

Jim Schmidt

high school

Cheese Curd Nick

football

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day?

This reminds

Cheese Curd Nick

me of deer hunting.

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Absolutely.

Yeah, but maybe people in this kind of cooler weather will be up for cheesecakes.

No, absolutely not.

Jim Schmidt

I try that already.

Cheese Curd Nick

I've done the farmers market way too many

Jim Schmidt

times.

You've

Cheese Curd Nick

done a lot.

Jim Schmidt

You could probably predict generally how many people are gonna be there, right?

I'll tell you what.

Cheese Curd Nick

It's not gonna be good,

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but don't you think the

Cheese Curd Nick

biggest thing is it's a northeast wind and it's gonna be gusting to 25 so it's coming right off the bay

Jim Schmidt

Coming right down

Cheese Curd Nick

Broadway

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Well, we should promote it a little bit more than that.

We should.

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Hey,

John Mino

come on, dawg.

Hey, it's going

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to be 68 and sunny, Joe.

John Mino

I appreciate the fact that Jim's trying to stay positive.

I do.

I appreciate that.

It is

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the first one.

I do think people are going to come out to kind of... I do.

It's the first one.

People can come out and get some of that.

food truck and your stuff.

I appreciate your positivity.

I'll tell you what, Nick, I'll be there.

How's that?

Jim Schmidt

I

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will too.

I will stop over

Jim Schmidt

and get

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something.

We're gonna walk through that.

All right, I appreciate that.

You got it.

Might not tip, but we'll come by.

Do you have the exact same location every year?

Do you like?

Cheese Curd Nick

Yeah.

So years ago, I used to be up on the corner and my lines would, and this is when my lines...

Jim Schmidt

You're like Broadway and Walnut,

Cheese Curd Nick

right?

Before?

No, I was on Broadway.

What is that dead end rule that...

I'm

Jim Schmidt

on that same road.

Okay, cuz when I did it with you one time You're actually right on Broadway.

No, I was on the corner right off of that same corner.

Yeah But you're in a kind of a cool little you got your own little That's

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like the food court.

Cheese Curd Nick

Yeah.

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Yeah,

Cheese Curd Nick

it is but it's popular my lines They didn't like the lines all getting all jacked up in the in the intersection there, right?

So then they're like well, we have to move you so I was I was mad for about a year

that they moved me.

And then I kind of fell on my groove there.

And it's nice because I can have everything right there, you know, to where if I would, if I would have my same setup now in the middle somewhere, it, it would be very difficult to do

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stuff because I wouldn't be able

Cheese Curd Nick

to have my trailer

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there.

When you would go down that little food court cul-de-sac, whatever you call that, you're a little unique there.

I mean, there's some good food on there, but there's just not a lot of people doing.

Fish, why was there we had fish?

Well, that was the

Cheese Curd Nick

I don't do fish for the public.

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I'm kind of a fan of the

Cheese Curd Nick

ragoon.

Yeah Everybody likes a crab ragoon.

Yeah, but you don't do that there.

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No, no, I just do that for

Cheese Curd Nick

friends and employees and stuff like that But you know, yeah, it's our line, you know when it when it's a nice day Which it will be later today.

There you

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go.

Jim Schmidt

I love it.

There you go.

Ding ding bell times that start the market

Cheese Curd Nick

three o'clock three to eight

So it's three to eight all the way through September.

So when September comes, which is people are gonna say, well, why are you talking about September?

In a blink of an eye, it will be September.

Then it goes to three to seven, the

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whole month of September.

Cheese Curd Nick

So basically when school

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starts, it goes to three to seven.

You talk about blink of an eye, our kids are all gonna be home for fourth of July.

And that's here before you know it.

And we called around to get some hotels, because we're gonna be going a couple of places.

They're full.

So it's like get a VRBO

Jim Schmidt

Yeah, I know that's what we're probably gonna

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do.

I was just calling

Jim Schmidt

this past weekend And here's the for here you're looking for Green Bay hotels.

No, oh, okay Here's the thing with the beat with I say wait a minute.

You get a four-story house.

Yeah, I would be really offended if I was one of your

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kids No,

Jim Schmidt

they will stay they'll be there a couple

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nights.

Jim Schmidt

Okay.

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There's some other stuff We want to do

Jim Schmidt

I'm gonna say that Milton's got that work.

That's how he's gonna be like maybe like you know I could see Milton being like I was reading the thing about baron Trump We're at that three million dollar place of he had his own for

The dog to hold tight his son.

Oh Trump said okay.

It's like an entire floor he had of his wouldn't that be cool?

And you're like nine years old, but I could see Milton having that

Cheese Curd Nick

Hey when you invite me over for that hot dog bar that we talked about off the air think that's gonna happen.

Well, it is Well, anyway, don't can we feed Milton hot dogs?

No

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We had a guy on here yesterday Nick.

He's like the milkman of

Dog food and he'll deliver it and I know he assesses your dog I'm gonna get his number.

I'm gonna go see him.

I think that's great Farmers market.

So

Cheese Curd Nick

when you come and get cheese curds

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for me, there's a day tonight.

I

Cheese Curd Nick

mean, yeah, he'll be there tomorrow All

Jim Schmidt

right, cool, he'll be there tomorrow on Oh night is better weather.

I don't

Cheese Curd Nick

know tomorrow's any better

Jim Schmidt

drinking there

Cheese Curd Nick

Um, it's a new, it's a sparkling ice caffeine.

So it's zero sugar.

Jim Schmidt

Never seen that one before.

Cheese Curd Nick

It's pretty tasty.

Um, it's got caffeine in it cause I need a little, but today is eat your fruit and vegetables.

Jim Schmidt

It is cherry.

How

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many carbs

Jim Schmidt

support the day?

How many carbs?

How many carbs?

Ready?

Yeah.

Zero.

Wow.

That's nice.

I like that.

Um, Hey, I just want to say one thing, old man, you look at that exactly.

Jim and I do with our glasses.

Cheese Curd Nick

Here's the thing with that.

So my glasses, I don't need glasses for close-up.

I need them for far away.

So the whole like,

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it makes it blurry.

I

Cheese Curd Nick

have to see, I can see better when I do this close-up than a, that's cloudy right now.

But if I do

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this,

With all that said and you sell cheese curds and burgers.

You've lost 47 pounds.

How much do

Cheese Curd Nick

that?

You do look good all the generic was epic so semi-glutide Hey,

Jim Schmidt

I saw a story.

You see it a national news last night

CBS News, which I'd never seen before.

Boy, that's strange with the two guys.

I know.

Is that the thrill back?

Reminds of a cable company in 1986.

In my game, we only had one answer.

Does it have that feel to it though, Todd?

Remember when news stations used to try to because, oh, we're different.

Look at where it's

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like, ugh.

Do you think they're trying too hard?

Jim Schmidt

I think it's weird.

I thought they were trying too hard.

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And I'm about crazy about it.

The anchors either

Jim Schmidt

but anyway, yeah, I don't watch that they're trying just the whole was the olympics But it was about how the prices are going way way up again now on the knockoffs Because there had been some kind of an agreement or even with like and I'm probably getting some of this wrong But the bottom line is the price is going way way up by like four hundred five hundred dollars a month versus what people had been paying And it has something to do it and it's something to do with the knockoff type

type of Osempos, Osempos.

It's not so

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different, Osempos.

Jim Schmidt

The

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knockoffs aren't different, right?

Jim Schmidt

One lady said she lost 70 pounds on the knockoff stuff, and the doctor said, I'll be honest with you, when people go off it, 75% put all their weight back

Cheese Curd Nick

on.

Well, it's just like a diet, John.

I know.

So I'll probably never be off.

I'm getting close to where I want to be.

I want to float between 230 and 240.

So you have to do a video conference.

I want to get on a maintenance, I'll be on a maintenance

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shot once I

Cheese Curd Nick

get to that point.

What is maintenance then?

Once a month or how often do they do that?

I don't know.

He says once you get there, we'll talk about it.

Where

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do you go through?

What?

The guy in Aptin?

Cheese Curd Nick

You do it online.

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You do it online.

Girl who worked here and she's just, I can't believe how cheap it was.

$250.

A month?

Cheese Curd Nick

Yes.

And then

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when you're on a

Cheese Curd Nick

shot,

You're saving yourself $250 in food.

So it's really... I would agree with that.

You're not gonna... It's not like, oh my god, it's $250 more in my budget.

That's what they said to me, and it actually holds true.

You don't eat nowhere nearly as much.

But, okay, so they're gonna come out with a

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pill.

Yep, cuz you gotta put needles in your body every day once a week once a week I

Cheese Curd Nick

hate needles if you wave a needle in front of me, I'll pass out

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so

Cheese Curd Nick

my my wife actually Oh, yeah, so I had my phone doing whatever

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Well, it's working

Cheese Curd Nick

Yeah,

Jim Schmidt

congratulations, especially in

Cheese Curd Nick

your business.

Yeah, right?

Jim Schmidt

Well, do you eat your own stuff?

Cheese Curd Nick

Oh, yeah.

Oh,

Jim Schmidt

you don't okay?

Cheese Curd Nick

I eat

See, I really like, so the hot dogs that we use are Nathan's all beef from Coney

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Island.

Cheese Curd Nick

So like when Joey Chestnut eats 68 of them, 68 quarter pounders is what he eats.

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And

Cheese Curd Nick

then we sell those.

And they're good.

Oh yeah.

They're really

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good.

Cheese Curd Nick

They have a little garlic taste.

They're really, they're really good.

Like a, I don't want to call it Oscar Meyer brand, but that uncased hot dog.

Yeah.

That's the best uncased hot dog you'll ever eat.

Okay.

Should I get those for the party?

You probably should.

Okay.

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I will.

Jim Schmidt

Do you want me to bring anything?

No, Costco has a dish to pass.

Yeah,

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they do.

Costco's got really good, those big hot dogs.

Yeah, they do.

Jim Schmidt

I'm going to have

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cheese and onions and just, there will be a whole bar.

You just make your own.

I'll just grill them.

And then where's the beer?

I'm just going to have beer.

That's it.

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I'm not making drinks

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for you guys.

I'll bring.

Yeah, bring whatever you want.

But no, just spotted cow.

That's it.

Just spotted.

Oh.

Yeah.

That's

Jim Schmidt

my wife's favorite.

That's what I have.

That's illegal to sell spotted cow outside of Wisconsin.

Yeah, I didn't know that remember

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they that's where that Who's that crazy guy that they fly in for games and they just load up the plane spotted cow So that's

Cheese Curd Nick

very very

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popular

Cheese Curd Nick

remember fat tiger or sure.

Yeah, okay.

That was the same thing So all my friend this was back 15 18 20 years ago They would go to color a lot of them went Colorado.

They went skiing and snowboarding and stuff like that

Well, they would drive there and then drive back

Jim Schmidt

and of course

Cheese Curd Nick

no fat tire because fat tire was this they wouldn't

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So what's

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the

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law behind that though?

Is that a marketing ploy?

It's so

Cheese Curd Nick

special.

Oh, it's a law because so like when I had my liquor store Like my have you guys been you guys have been an Eastern seaboard obviously.

Have you ever had yingling?

Jim Schmidt

No, yes

Cheese Curd Nick

yingling is a really good beer.

Jim Schmidt

Yes.

I'm not sure where but I've had that

So

Cheese Curd Nick

the problem is, is a lot of these breweries can only produce so much.

They're not like Miller.

They're not like PAPS.

They're not like Budweiser where they can just pump, pump, pump, pump and supply the whole country.

So what they did was, is they had regulations on, well, we can only sell to these States because that's how much they can put out.

So when I had my liquor store, I reached, I'm like, I need yingling here.

And I didn't know why we couldn't get it here.

Well, yingling,

One thing is, is if anybody even listening out there, yingling is the oldest active brewery in the United States.

Oh, cool.

The oldest active.

Wow.

And they're where?

I believe they're out of pencil.

Jim Schmidt

I believe

Cheese Curd Nick

somewhere, somewhere over there.

Jim Schmidt

So I

Cheese Curd Nick

dutch that started them up, you know, maybe.

I don't know.

So I did make some phone calls.

Why I ended up going all the way talking to yingling themselves.

I'm like, why can't I get it in Wisconsin?

And they said, we can't produce enough.

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Well, that's a little different though.

I think the rules now because yeah, I spotted color as a that's a huge huge They could put out more than Wisconsin.

Cheese Curd Nick

I think well, right, but like yingling handles like 14 I might be wrong.

Jim Schmidt

Are you sure it's not around here Nick

Cheese Curd Nick

yingling?

Yeah, I'm positive.

I think you're wrong.

Jim Schmidt

I've had that other than here

Cheese Curd Nick

Eastern seaboard

Jim Schmidt

or I have a

Cheese Curd Nick

bigger

Jim Schmidt

seaboard in five years unless somebody Unless somebody

Cheese Curd Nick

smuggled it, okay

Right.

And I don't drink anymore.

So maybe there is yingling finally here.

I don't know.

But this was back in 2007.

All right.

And they said, we can't produce enough.

So what we do is we set up boundaries so we don't get overextended.

So that's why there's like law.

And the law states that you cannot take any beer or anything over state lines, technically.

So that's kind of like a, I believe that's a national law.

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You can't take bear over state life.

No, no,

John Mino

no.

Cuz like line in Kugel you could buy elsewhere, right?

Breaking news.

I looked it up.

Yingling is now sold in Wisconsin with Molson Coors.

Okay, joined forces.

Oh, that's probably why they did it.

Yep.

Cheese Curd Nick

Okay.

Yeah, well again, all everything that I'm talking about is from this is 2007 information not

2020

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we like to be a little bit more current people of what's current okay well do our history channel come back for that but yeah

Cheese Curd Nick

well hey that's good to know you know now what are the you don't have to bootleg hingling into

John Mino

my business

Cheese Curd Nick

I

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think there's more to it than that

Jim Schmidt

because I would do a spotted cow

I would load up a truck with spike up.

Take it to

Cheese Curd Nick

when we did when

Jim Schmidt

I went

Cheese Curd Nick

when I went to the Packers Rams game

I mailed a whole bunch of beer and spotted culling everybody and everybody that was at the tailgate like oh

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my god this beer is awesome right yeah that is good stuff

Jim Schmidt

yeah all right we gotta set a quick break cheese curtain neck talking about tonight's today's farmer market on Broadway in downtown Green Bay we got our veteran solute from Olsen legal group coming up we got some phenomenal guests with that we got a full slate for you folks back after

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this

Host_1

97.9 FM WGBW 98.3 96.5 FM WISS and of course the Civic Media app Orioles at the Brewers again today 1135 on WISS get out of town I know did they win last night?

I

Nick (interviewee)

don't know but

Host_1

it was 5 to 2 that game is so slow

Host_2

they did win last night okay I was watching that and it's like come on yeah

Host_1

I know

Host_2

Man, I don't think the guys

Host_1

Contreras came out got out of a good slump the other day when four four he had been hitting not even his weight

How about my way?

Nick (interviewee)

So it's not even his

Host_1

way.

He was hitting the airway.

No, he was hitting the airway.

He was hitting with Jim Wade the first time he got... Oh, I shouldn't say the first time.

Jim Wade when he got married.

We were talking about this.

We were

Host_2

talking about this.

My wedding anniversary is coming up.

And I said to John, how much... You watch the video and all that.

It's been a long time, you know, 35 years.

And I couldn't believe...

how much weight she's put up with.

You know what I mean?

I'm getting

Host_1

better.

I thought you were going to say how much weight she put up.

No, no, no.

She

Host_2

put up with

Host_1

it.

I

Host_2

was

Host_1

going to run out of here.

Host_2

No,

Host_1

no.

I was

Host_2

going to move.

But there are people that weigh the same.

There is.

They're me.

They're weirdos.

Host_1

Yeah, I can think

Host_2

so.

But anyway, I was surprised that we were talking about that.

And

Host_1

how many was it?

Okay, how much would you wait?

This is probably what he was batting.

What would you like?

What how much you know what I got?

No, no, no when you get married

Host_2

like 140

Host_1

and that's about what he was hitting

Host_2

So yeah, I'm not gonna be back.

I'll get closer, but I'm working

Host_1

on it.

Okay.

I got one thing talking about the beer.

Yes, doesn't help with For spotted cow.

Oh fat squirrel fat squirrel

Okay, so I got a buddy who's- You have a blue thing too, that's pretty bad.

Yeah, but

Nick (interviewee)

I meant when I had my liquor store fat squirrel.

Host_1

Where was your liquor store?

I didn't know you had a liquor store.

Nick (interviewee)

Yeah, I was, I was- Did you?

No.

I was, I had the last year and a half of the old Thirsty's liquor on Ninth and Grows.

Really?

Yes.

It was Thirsty's liquor, Thirsty's, and then it was, um...

Host_1

Like, what's there now?

Nick (interviewee)

It's a vape store.

Oh.

Host_1

Oh, okay.

So, I go, okay, let me ask this.

I got a buddy, I'm gonna bring him something for doing a bunch of work for me.

And he's a Scotch drinker.

And I've never heard of this Scotch.

L-A-P-H-R-O-A-I-G?

I

Nick (interviewee)

would go to, you

Host_1

know where I would

Nick (interviewee)

go?

This is where I would go to get it.

I would either go to Woody's, Woodman's.

or I would go to Ridgeview liquor in Ashwabana.

Host_1

Well, I'm going to start with my buddy over in Allway first.

Nick (interviewee)

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

He's a good guy.

He's a

Host_1

great guy.

He's phenomenal.

Nick (interviewee)

Yep.

Host_1

And if he's got it, he'll sit in his stool and he'll tell you exactly where it is.

Go get it.

And then he'll ask you about the pack or draft.

Nick (interviewee)

I'll tell you about him when we go

Host_1

out here.

It's for sale.

Nick (interviewee)

I know it is.

Host_1

I would buy it

Nick (interviewee)

in a heartbeat.

Host_1

Then you're married.

That'll be your

Nick (interviewee)

second marriage.

I'd live

Host_1

upstairs.

What should make it my third?

We got Nick here talking about the farmer's market.

Well, Nick again, at least the season has started, but man, not to blow smoke up you, but you are one of the hardest working men in showbiz.

I mean, you don't take like time off.

Nick (interviewee)

I know.

So before COVID, we do 130 to 140 dates a year.

And then

COVID came and anyway,

Host_1

yeah,

Nick (interviewee)

yeah.

And then we went to like 80 or 80 to 90 and now we do, I think this year with the draft added, I think we have 73 working days, like 73 vending days.

And then in our business, it's basically, you add another day to it for...

you know, cleanup set up, you know, so basically if I work 72 days, I work 144 days.

Host_1

If you get an event, well, okay, today starting at three, what time do you actually, what time does your day start getting ready for that?

Nick (interviewee)

I will, well, cause our weather's so beautiful today.

If it was a normal day, I'd probably start by eight o'clock in the morning.

I would be starting to do stuff.

You know, we have to be down there.

I get there.

I'm one of the first ones there at one o'clock.

Just in case, you know, there's a just in case factor.

Host_1

I

Nick (interviewee)

like to be at my events.

I try to be at all my events early, just in case.

Like two years ago, we had a fryer that went down, you know, I cleaned out the fryer as a day before, went down there, it went light.

And then, you know, I'm like, well, that gives me time to.

get another, you know what I mean, to fix it or to switch

Host_2

it out or whatever.

I know the farmer's market's a big deal for you at the events, but what do you have going on?

This is a holiday weekend.

You doing anything?

Nick (interviewee)

Yeah, we'll be in Sturgeon Bay at the Sturgeon Bay Fine Arts Fair at Martin Park.

We'll be there Saturday and Sunday.

Nice.

It's one of the very few times when we talked about fish.

This is the only event in a year that I do perch and I do shrimp baskets.

Host_2

Oh, wow.

Host_1

That

Host_2

sounds awesome.

And it's fine arts, which they like that.

They have fine art.

Nick (interviewee)

Yeah, they do.

They're a little hoity-toity up there.

Yeah, they are.

So they have, like, it's kind of... I like it.

Host_1

From the guy with linens.

For him to

Nick (interviewee)

say somebody else is hoity-toity.

Host_1

I

Nick (interviewee)

don't

Host_2

know

Nick (interviewee)

why you looked at me like that.

Host_1

It's

Host_2

from

Nick (interviewee)

Kraft.

You know, they have some Kraft stuff.

Host_1

When

Nick (interviewee)

I say Kraft, you know, it's not super high end, but it goes all the way to, you know, $1,000 pictures.

Host_2

So that

Nick (interviewee)

artwork,

Host_1

yeah.

Yes,

Nick (interviewee)

yes.

And the other event that they actually have in fall is...

They have an auction and every year, I think they're going with boats this year, but they have like 20, 20, they've done cherries, they've done bass, they've done all kinds of different things.

And then they have artists paint them up and they put them up for auction.

And the one year they had like a bass or a cherry that was painted up, it went up for auction, it sold for $8,000.

And they do live auction, right?

That's in fall.

Do you see that

Host_1

one in Milwaukee,

Nick (interviewee)

that boat?

that

Host_1

beached and they can just see that and they can't get it out.

They tried so hard because it had filled with sand with silt and it was so

Nick (interviewee)

heavy.

They

Host_1

ran out of

Nick (interviewee)

fuel.

They bought this.

They wanted to take it down.

They wanted to get it down to the Mississippi River, I think, but they bought it and they ran out of gas.

They couldn't get into the harbor and they abandoned the boat.

Host_1

But the thing is, it became a huge tourist attraction because then people grew.

paint all kinds of graffiti on it and the whole thing.

And it's actually in the water.

And there are these actual boat people used to go there and take pictures.

And a lot of people didn't want it removed.

So it was like this unique city art.

Nick (interviewee)

Right.

Yeah.

Host_1

Oh, I don't know how to let that go.

Host_2

That's

Host_1

pretty

Nick (interviewee)

cool.

Now they're talking about possibly cutting it up into pieces and auction it off to help pay for the salvage part of it.

Host_1

Cheese currant net farmers market.

Where are you going to be brother?

Nick (interviewee)

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Host_2

Sturgeon Bay

Nick (interviewee)

this weekend Sturgeon Bay this weekend fine arts fair Martin Park nine to four on Saturday nine to three on Sunday

Host_1

and thanks to the homemade cookies.

Yes, sir.

I'm feeling good already.

Yeah Quick break.

Thanks for being here, buddy.

SPEAKER_??

Yep

John Mino (host)

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And

Jessica Williams

here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

Right on the mayor here on a Wednesday morning special.

Thanks to Nick Slapsky, farmer's market.

She's Kirk Nick.

He will be in action this afternoon, starting at three o'clock on Broadway Street, the very first farmer's market of the year.

And you know what?

We were talking about how nasty it was out there.

We just had two ladies walk in, Jessica and Jessica, and they both, they're just wearing like tank tops and shorts.

And they're like, what are you talking about?

John Mino (host)

It's

Jim Schmidt (host)

like 74.

Four out here right now.

John Mino (host)

20 years in the military.

They're tough.

They're tough.

Jim Schmidt (host)

We're

John Mino (host)

wimpy here.

And

Jim Schmidt (host)

Jessica's, I'm from Alaska.

I can handle this.

Hello, we're here.

Jessica one and Jessica two.

Jessica Williams and Jessica George.

How you doing, ladies?

Jessica Williams

Doing great.

Thanks for having us on the show.

This is so

Jim Schmidt (host)

awesome.

This is the local combat veterans segment.

Veterans salute brought to you by the Olson legal group.

Well, go ahead.

Whoever wants to jump in first and let's talk a little bit about the wonderful things that you guys are doing for female veterans, which I think never get enough credit.

So whoever would like to jump in, you go right ahead and talk about the great things.

Jessica Williams

Great.

Yeah, we're really excited to serve.

the local community and help women veterans understand their commitment and their connection to each other and to the community.

So we do a lot of speaking.

The last couple of weeks ago we did a...

kind of a meet and greet question and answer situation with the Little Shoot High School, which was an incredible, incredible meeting.

And we got to meet some really great people and we reached out to a lot of women.

And we also have a focus in sort of development and leadership and helping women understand that they can make the world around them a better place.

And we also explain a lot of things about how veterans interact with their communities and what they can expect if they decide to join the military, especially when we talk to younger women.

John Mino (host)

Is that a little bit of your goal then?

Is a little bit of a recruitment?

Or is it more education?

Jessica Williams

No, no, it's just educational purposes.

We're not interested in trying to persuade anyone.

We just want to kind of share our stories, sort of the good, bad, and the ugly, and let people know what it was like being a female in the United States military, Air Force for me, Army for Jess.

Jim Schmidt (host)

You know, every time I speak, I always mention this.

I swear, every time we don't give the female...

Enlisted enough credit.

We just don't because when my little trips overseas They were outside the wire.

They're going into little villages in Baghdad They're working with the civilians in a way that the men could not And I saw it firsthand the women and the kids wanted nothing to do with the guys But as soon as the female Soldier walked in they would run up there armful of kids hugging and things like that It was and they got so much more information and doing it that way than the men could

Wouldn't you guys agree?

Jessica Williams

I would agree with that.

What do you think Jess?

Yes.

Yep.

I think

I think it's a really important aspect of kind of female involvement in the military, not just in the military, but I think in humanity in general.

The human side of women is a little bit easier to, I think, relate to, especially in a softer sense.

I mean, it's important.

For a kid.

For a kid, for sure.

And other, and other.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

Jim Schmidt (host)

whoa.

You're

John Mino (host)

talking to anybody over

Jim Schmidt (host)

the

Jessica Williams

age of

John Mino (host)

21.

Jessica Williams

I think

John Mino (host)

those

Jessica Williams

guys need a

John Mino (host)

script.

No, I would agree with you that in a

If it's human nature or what, but I think children are very attracted to a mother figure.

Jessica Williams

It's very comforting.

But I mean, there's definitely a time and a place for, you know, a male influence in a child's life.

Absolutely.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Can you tell a little bit about your experience just in general?

You said, what, 22 years?

Jessica Williams

22 years, United States Air Force, active duty, I retired in 2018.

I joined as living in Chicago, traveled the world.

I have four daughters, two of them were born in England.

I adopted another one of my daughter's friends, and she's my kid, and my youngest daughter just graduated high school, Appleton West.

Awesome.

And just finishing up raising kids, and I got two granddaughters.

So my time in the military, I lived in England for a few years.

I've been to Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait, and Bosnia as far as deployments go.

I was a helicopter mechanic in special operations for 15 of my 22 years.

You know, I lived a life, my hair on fire, traveling around the world and seeing a bunch of stuff, but...

Jim Schmidt (host)

Where were you in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Jessica Williams

I was in northern Iraq at Erbil.

Erbil is the first, is now an international airport.

We've built it up since then, but I was there way before that when it was just a couple of police officers and some chicken wire.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Wow.

Jessica Williams

Yeah.

Jim Schmidt (host)

And then we're in Afghanistan.

Jessica Williams

In Afghanistan, I was at Bagram, which is the big base center for the entire operation.

So I did a lot of work out there.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Okay, I have to ask you.

So when I was over there,

Middle of the nights my hoochers right next to this one area that had Cyclone fences all around it and a gate that you could not get into this one little place and I'm not even joking about this.

I thought that's maybe where they held detainees

Jessica Williams

Sure,

Jim Schmidt (host)

but it wasn't sort of special ops guy stayed.

Jessica Williams

That's what all snake eaters

Jim Schmidt (host)

Yes, but it's like they want it's like you don't even talk to them.

They just do their own thing the middle of the night you'd hear helicopter take off and Right before the sun was coming up the helicopter would land and it's like don't ask those guys where they've been what they've been doing So we're those the guys you dealt with

Jessica Williams

That certainly, I was maintenance on those types of health matters.

Wow.

So we had a very tip of the spear opportunity to be involved in the wartime effort over there.

Jim Schmidt (host)

That's cool.

Jessica Williams

It was

Jessica George

pretty

Jessica Williams

neat.

Jim Schmidt (host)

That's cool.

How about you, Jessica?

Jessica George

My source is completely different.

I did reserve army for nine years and human resources.

Jim Schmidt (host)

432 or?

Jessica George

No.

Okay.

646, regional support group.

Training division in Fort McCoy.

I also did a career counselor as well as post-operations.

Okay.

In nine years, never deployed.

Mine's all been state side.

And that's part of kind of like why we're doing the veteran story is that we each have a story and a different path that took us.

Jessica Williams

Awesome.

Jessica George

And every veteran that has enlisted has their own reasons of enlistening as well as whatever direction has taken it.

Jim Schmidt (host)

And maybe things have changed, right?

We'll say this.

You said in a deploy or whatever.

Once you raise your hand and say you're ready, willing, and able, okay?

And they swear you in.

Whatever you said you wanted to do is 90% off the window, right?

I mean, guys, I said, I definitely want to go.

I want to go to Iraq.

And they were at Fort Riley for the entire time.

And other people were like, man, I just want to get my thing.

I'm getting college credits.

And they were on the front lines

Jessica Williams

where they were

Jim Schmidt (host)

promised.

Isn't that the case?

So you just never know once you're

Jessica Williams

in what's going to happen.

That's very true.

I put on my dream sheet when you go through basic training and you get through your tech school where they train you how to do your job, you can tell them where you want to go as far as being stationed, right?

So when I scrawled on the top of my page, you know, no overseas.

My first set of orders was to get a dean of Japan.

Exactly.

They were like, thank you for playing.

We're going to send you where you

John Mino (host)

want.

Exactly.

Tell me about your path, Jessica, too, was counseling and state side.

Did you go in as a helicopter mechanic?

Did you like that when you were a kid in high school, or did they put you to that?

Jessica Williams

Actually, I got fairly lucky.

I went in open general, which meant I went in under the guise of, you can make me do whatever you want.

So in the Air Force, I wouldn't have been standing out in the grass with a gun.

However,

I could have had any number of jobs and I ended up with maintenance.

I was pretty mechanically inclined even from a very young age and the Armed Forces Vocational Battery Aptitude Test, right?

Jessica George

Oh my gosh, I

Jessica Williams

can't believe I remember that.

I need to retire.

That tests your abilities across a certain number of areas and they found out that I was pretty good at mechanics and it actually ended up being an incredible fit for me because I did love working with my hands and so that job actually ended up being

a perfect fit for me.

I loved it.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Jessica George, who just spoke, and Jessica Williams in the house right now.

Veterans Salute brought to you by Olson Legal Group.

John Mino (host)

I think we should do more of that, whether they're going to the military or not, with some kids in certain grades, because there's kids that have an aptitude for mechanics, for engineering.

We've had engineers in here, and yet their parents, oh, you got to go to college and get a liberal arts degree.

It's like, that's not for everybody, you know?

And I just think that's awesome that you took the test, and did you take the same test in the Army?

Jessica George

I did.

And it's interesting that you mentioned that I had to college first.

So I said no way in hell was I going to join the military.

So I enlisted after college.

And so technically I should have gone as an officer route.

And that's why I went in the HR department.

Because everyone just assumes that you're inventory and that you're one and only job is to shoot things.

mine role was more so making sure that all the soldiers were taken care of, that they were getting paid, that their families were taken care of, and so the career counselor role was later on in my career to actually help the soldiers.

determine why they should re-enlist.

Jim Schmidt (host)

But another part that you just mentioned, we have a young lady that comes in here, Nicole Stockman out at UW Green Base, runs a veteran service office.

And she was talking about, she was 21, she wasn't in the military, but she was married to a career military for 21 years.

And she, like what you said about placement and families and things, she'd get a phone call from her husband and break, hey, pack up, we're going to Japan.

Jessica Williams

Wow.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

And it's like, if they didn't have somebody like you,

Jessica Williams

I'll tell you, being on the ground in Afghanistan on the round, Jessica, she was my savior every time, because we had to be responsible for filing our own travel vouchers and taking care of our own pay.

We didn't know what we were doing, and we were like, well, please, somebody help us.

And Jessica was her particular MOS in the Air Force, we call it an AFSE, but her particular job was the most valuable.

In fact, I

I would always seek her out and say, come a person in her role, come and speak to my airmen, come and speak to my soldiers and tell them how to, how to manage their stuff, how to manage their career, because it was absolutely instrumental.

Sure, we can do the deployment stuff on our heads easily, but the job that's really hard and the one that's really, really.

behind the scenes is the things that Jessica did.

Jim Schmidt (host)

And mentally that takes that strain away from the people that got some other serious things on their mind.

Jessica Williams

Absolutely.

When I'm too tired to fire on my travel voucher because I've been working 18 hours and we're fixing helicopters and I need to have somebody help me through it because I can't see straight anymore.

I would just because the type of person that I would have definitely leaned on at that

John Mino (host)

time.

Jessica, that's a great program, if you will, lack of better word.

But coming back, how was your readjustment?

Because we have people on here that

aren't real happy about the support they got coming back into civilian life.

And you guys seem like you were very well adjusted, but do

Jessica George

we have it?

John Mino (host)

Well, we wear

Jessica George

it well.

I think we've all had our own challenges.

Interestingly enough, my career was actually helping our service members transition.

So previously working for the state and as a National Guard contractor, I actually helped write resumes and get those service members back on track.

Jim Schmidt (host)

which is important.

Let me just throw this out there and tell me, like we had a guy in here yesterday, or two days ago, Don Carper's name is.

He's the navigator, we call it Veterans Village.

Okay, now then.

And it was shocking at times how these guys would come in who fulfilled their military careers or whatever, but they didn't have a clue on the next step in certain ways.

Some of the things we almost take for granted, that was

John Mino (host)

important.

And it's really, really important.

And you know, there's all those programs to get, you know,

apples and oranges, but let me just give you an example that I've dealt with with prisoners coming back into society because they've been off the grid.

I mean, these guys, there's some people that, well, I don't know what cell phones are, but you guys are, we assume you're in the loop the whole time and they come back and they struggle a little

Jessica Williams

bit.

Sure, reintegration is always a struggle, actually.

And it's interesting that you bring that up because my,

My current job is I'm a Reserve Component Transition Assistance Advisor.

I work with the government currently.

And so my job is to actually make sure people getting out and transitioning and who have questions about their benefits know who to talk to

Jessica George

because

Jessica Williams

honestly there's a hundred different agencies that you need to talk to about maybe I need to change my retirement maybe I want to get a

education benefit, and there's 50 different agencies that you need to talk to.

Jessica George

And they're changing.

And they

Jessica Williams

change all the time, and you don't know who to call.

So the questions are always there.

So my job is to sift through all of that red tape, jargon, which office you need to see, and find the information that you need, give you that information, and then hook you up with the right offices.

a veteran so that you can utilize all of the benefits.

Because we have guys, I'm in the VFW, up by where I live, I live up in Tomahawk.

And I'm in the VFW, there are guys in the town that should be getting a retirement or a medical disability from their service and have never applied for it.

And they're in their 60s, 70s, 80s.

Exactly.

But I

John Mino (host)

think it's great, let me interrupt you, Jessica.

is the educational opportunities that they have.

It's incredible and you don't have to study a certain track.

You can do anything you want.

You go back in horticulture and I teach at TC and we're getting more and more people and it's, if they, actually it's getting paid for.

I know they got to pass the class and everything, but I just think it's too bad if somebody's sitting there bored.

What am I going to do?

It's like, well,

We'll help

Jessica George

you.

Yeah.

The cool thing about Wisconsin is actually word number one in the United States for offering benefits, a military benefit.

You're going to be a veteran.

Do it in Wisconsin.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Exactly.

Jessica Williams, Jessica George, local vets, veteran salute brought to you by Olson Legal Group.

Back with them right after this.

Host

Hey, welcome back.

Mine on the mayor here on a blustery Wednesday morning, 46 in Green Bay, 45 in Alton, 45 in Oshkosh, forecasted a breezy, cloudy, windy showers high in the mid 50s.

But as soon as the farmer's market starts on Broadway, 72 and

Co-Host

sunny.

So the music, is that left a good job in the city?

That's why we're playing it in honor of these people who left.

Well,

Host

I made it a way back Wednesday today, so it's all older tunes.

Oh, all right, all right.

Co-Host

Guys, we get guests, we start interviewing and all of a sudden there's a song that usually ties into them, so, but anyway, yes.

Host

Jessica Williams and Jessica George, both United States military veterans, one Jessica in the Air Force, the other in the United States Army, when you have young people, or not even young people, I don't care who it is, some guy at a bar when he says, tell me something I don't know about female veterans.

Jessica George

What do you say?

I would say like we bleed blood like everybody else.

Host

I mean they don't realize that the how important the role the females play in the military.

Jessica George

That's very true and I actually was pretty fortunate in my career.

Jessica said that she was absolutely helpful and supportive of her troops.

That was her capacity.

I ended up being a first sergeant for a little while in the military, which was tough because I got to see both the side of the person.

of the the soldier and the airman and then I got to see the side of the person who Struggled through things had the same problems as everybody else or if your wife left them Or they they've got a lot of debt or they're in trouble with the law or whatever and I saw that side of them too and had to help them in both those capacities Which was really great.

So Jessica and I kind of similar in that way She did that like kind of a lot more in-depth, but I did that for a brief period of time in the military

Co-Host

I can see you guys both think good at that.

You don't seem a rigid to me.

You know, I mean like

And if you

Jessica George

ask my daughters, they might have

Co-Host

something else

Jessica George

to

Jessica Williams

say about that.

Once you put the uniform on,

Co-Host

I don't know.

Maybe that's what it is.

You guys are casual.

You stayed for 22 years.

I mean, something must have called you to do that.

That's a long time, quite honestly.

Jessica George

Oh, yeah.

Actually, the military's been in my family for a long time.

My grandfather was in World War II.

He fouled Patton up through Germany.

Wow.

Yep, and he had a lot of not so awesome stories, but a lot of really great ones as well and

Host

He passed away.

He did he

Jessica George

just recently actually no

Host

10 years ago.

Wow

Jessica George

96

Host

years old

Jessica George

field Commission very decorated great service to his country sure and my dad was in during Vietnam my brother spent four years in during the Gulf War and then you know

It

Host

was my

Jessica George

turn, so I stepped up and did the same thing.

Host

What did you end up rank-wise?

Jessica George

I was at East 7.

Okay.

Host

So

Jessica George

pretty good non-commissioned officer.

Host

Absolutely.

Jessica George

I really enjoyed the military and a lot of people ask me often, you know, why did I join and that's just a very common question.

Host

Yeah, I bet.

Jessica George

And I wish I sometimes I wish I could say the, well, I want to travel, want to see the world, but truthfully it was I really

Host

wanted to

Jessica George

serve my country.

That really was it.

Host

Wow.

I think that's a bottom line for that last second before you signed the dotted line.

Wouldn't you say Jessica?

Yes.

Jessica George

100%

Host

I mean that really is and you have to have that

Jessica George

mm-hmm.

Sure.

I mean you're writing a blank check, right?

Co-Host

You can cash

Jessica George

this up into my life,

Co-Host

please recruitment is down a little bit and everything but the Air Force Israel kids got to do it after high school for two years.

I mean you if you

I don't get politically here.

I'm just curious what you thought because we do need good people, you know, defending our country and working in so many.

There's just so much more than just the infantry, right?

They're just like, you talked about H.R.

Host

We're the basketball player here at Green Bay.

He was from Norway and they had the country of Norway.

They had to do two years.

Am

Jessica Williams

I personal?

I guess opinion, I would almost wish that America would be like other countries where it was a obligation that you had to give two

Host

years.

Jessica Williams

Mostly because you get the structure, you get the same norms and the values and the brother-sisterly vibe and like protecting one another and just kind of more of a basic where I feel like

just in civilian life, everyone's kind of disconnected.

Co-Host

They're floating, whereas they're structured.

You guys come out of a structured environment and reporting and that's healthy for someone to just know it, whether they want to live that.

I think there's so much more than, like you said, just the

the combat side.

I mean, you talked about the camaraderie and kids at 19 years old, I think that's a good thing.

Jessica Williams

There's that leadership.

There's the strategic planning.

There's that process and like there's steps of exactly what direction you're going to go, which is why normally the transitions are hard because in the civilian life, it's kind of like, well, whatever this company does is different than this company.

But in the military, regardless of what branch you're in, you actually are kind of following the same rules for the most part.

Jessica George

I think yeah, Jessica, I totally agree with you and I think I don't know about two years, but it's a long time.

Jessica Williams

Yeah, I know.

At least based on training.

I think it

Jessica George

would be really great for people to, because it really builds the self.

Jessica Williams

It

Jessica George

helps with identity.

It helps with your humanity.

Jessica Williams

It

Jessica George

helps us be more connected as people when we can have a common goal and work towards something together, even if it is just a two-year.

hitch for you know a common goal to protect the safety and peace of your nation.

Host

I was working on a chapter for my new book last night and this guy was in the Marines and for whatever reason it's the biggest toughest drill sergeant had something he thought had something against me something against me and he would always make him carry the heaviest guy that we put around the shoulders and he's like I my leg physically I couldn't do it but I did

Because that guy was right alongside me the whole time.

And he said, at the end of boot camp, he said, I knew I was going to get kicked out of the Marines, but this guy was so mean to me.

At the end, I went to his thing.

I wanted to punch him just once.

I didn't care if I went to the break.

He'd made my life so miserable.

We sat down in the bunk.

And when I walked out of there, I thank God that I had this guy in my life.

Because I realize now, when I go to Vietnam, how horrific it's going to be if he hadn't.

Right.

tested me and took me beyond what my mind told me I could do, I never would have made it.

Jessica George

Yeah, that's interesting that you say that.

I'm interested to hear about your book for sure.

That's why I stayed in the military as long as I did, because I ended up crossing over and becoming that mentor, that leader, that somebody that was right beside a lot of my airmen, kind of cheering them on and giving them kudos and helping them reach their goals.

And that was where I found meaning in my life.

Host

I bet your language was better than the DI in 1966, though.

Jessica George

I don't know.

I was special operations and that was maintenance.

We'll

Co-Host

see.

The other thing is that it's so important that people learn to work as a team.

And we don't have a lot of that.

That's being very, very important to companies, but very important in schools that we work as teams now because there's, you know, there's diversity and you get, there's so much more when, you know,

come together right when the hole is so much greater than the sum of its parts so that's great

Jessica George

connection human connection

Host

right jessica williams jessica george thank you so much and do me if you come back again because i feel like we're just scratching the surface in a certain way on females in the military and i think it's something that really really needs to get as much sunshine to it or light to it everyone i call it as humanly possible i still think it's an undertold story

Jessica George

thank

Host

you for the invite so very very much thank you very

Jessica George

much

Host

quick break back after this

Jessica Williams

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Here's John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

John Mino

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back, man.

What's some great guests right there?

Jessica Williams, Jessica George, a couple of local veterans.

Veteran salute brought to you by Olson legal group talked about the female version or not version of female aspect and outlook of being in the military I want to get them again.

Yeah, great.

Deanna Malcore

Wow.

Do they bring you the cookies?

No, that was cheese curd Nick

Jim Schmidt

cheese curd Nick, right?

He's

John Mino

gonna have his things set up today on right across the river from you guys Set up for this cheese curd stand

Very

Ben Malcore

nice.

Have some cookies.

We tested them.

They're good.

There's not a problem.

We were a little worried about it.

Jim was actually a little disappointed.

We know, yeah.

Radio Announcer

Come on, Nick.

I'll hold

Ben Malcore

out for the cheese

Radio Announcer

curds.

It was

Deanna Malcore

the

Radio Announcer

first thing I asked him when he handed me a cookie.

I was like, are these

Deanna Malcore

safe?

Right now.

And these they weren't fried.

SPEAKER_??

Right.

Deanna Malcore

And you

John Mino

know

Ben Malcore

Nick so even when he says the other safe or like But

John Mino

I'll tell you one thing that probably proves they're safe.

He's lost 47 pounds

Radio Announcer

Tapeworm.

Ben Malcore

Gotta be.

Think what he

John Mino

does

Ben Malcore

for a living.

What he does for a living is he deep fries, cheese curds, and he cooks the best burgers and brats.

Of course, I know you guys have had those.

And those are Nathan hot dogs.

Love a good Nathan hot dog.

Anyway, he looks great, and it's all working for him.

So nice.

John Mino

So you know if those cookies had anything else in them, he wouldn't have lost 47.

And we're not talking about the extra couple of calories.

How you guys doing?

We're doing good.

Not loving this weather.

Yeah, this mother

Jim Schmidt

nature could refresh our memory on what fall looks like.

John Mino

Well, we talked last week that you know, sometimes the weather does influence people getting out of the house.

Deanna Malcore

You know, I think it does.

You know, we had an open house last night at the home that we have listed on Humboldt, like 10 acres right in town.

With the pond.

Yeah, it's beautiful.

But you know, it's rainy.

So we did have a nice family stop by who's very interested.

But you know, things are quiet.

it's raining everybody kind of hunkers down and

John Mino

just

Ben Malcore

do yeah

Deanna Malcore

Well, it's gloomy, too.

That doesn't help.

Ben Malcore

Unless you bring a packer.

It's

Deanna Malcore

crazy what we'll

Ben Malcore

do for a packer game.

And every 80,000 people stand in line.

And yet,

Deanna Malcore

you know,

Ben Malcore

any other event, it's just, it's a no show.

Deanna Malcore

Anyway, I do.

So maybe we'll have to see if there's just some packers there.

Ben Malcore

There you go.

Get that Jordan Love guy

Deanna Malcore

in

Ben Malcore

the living room.

Jim Schmidt

That would bring him up

Ben Malcore

for sure.

I'm not

Jim Schmidt

sure that's our budget.

Ben Malcore

I think we're more of a practice squad type budgetary.

Right, right.

So what are you hearing out there?

I mean, we talk a lot about people who are buying homes are sometimes a little bit older.

We always talk about first time buyers, but right now people who are 55 are kind of looking to re...

What is it redesign your life?

Deanna Malcore

Yeah, yeah,

Ben Malcore

yeah, right right

Jim Schmidt

into

Deanna Malcore

a ranch

Jim Schmidt

Yeah,

Deanna Malcore

you know, I think it's you know right now I think we're starting to feel especially with the first time homebuyers and she brought it up a little bit of buyer fatigue We know I think we've got a lot of you know I know our buyers when you you know They find these homes that they like but there's now like 11 offers 15 offers

again on these homes and it's tough.

You get really tired really fast.

You grind.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah.

There was even one that we had shown in L.O.A.

you know, structurally a nice home just hadn't been updated and probably 35, 40, maybe even 50 years and you know, the flooring was starting to come up.

11 offers on that home.

11 offers.

Deanna Malcore

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's really, it's crazy right now.

Ben Malcore

I was talking to a guy last night.

lives in Chicago, his son's 25, and he was just, it's everywhere.

They're just, they haven't kept up with the building.

I mean, and he's like, is this going to change?

He doesn't want his kid living in an apartment because you're not building equity.

And I would agree with

John Mino

that,

Ben Malcore

but on the other hand-

John Mino

Let me ask you something.

You're always talking about building things and businesses and yadda yadda, we've got all this land.

Doesn't it seem like somebody would say, I'm going to take-

10 acres.

And I'm going to build all these houses with zero.

Ben Malcore

You know what I mean?

As far

John Mino

as walking, everything, no steps.

Deanna Malcore

Wouldn't

John Mino

that go over big?

Deanna Malcore

You know,

John Mino

you

Deanna Malcore

would think that it would, but here's the issue that I think we run into a lot.

And I think, you know, when you're, when you're right sizing, when you're downsizing and you're looking at, okay, we've got this huge house that we don't want to take care of anymore.

And or it's two stories and we're trying to find that ranch home or those zero entry kind of homes.

they're more expensive than the house that you have.

And so it's really hard for those buyers that are, you know, there's sellers potentially, sellers and buyers to move from a payment that is much smaller than a payment that they're going to have, or maybe no payment.

And so it's really hard to move into something that's smaller, but costs more.

John Mino

If I had a mortgage paid off, I would not, I wouldn't think I'd go to the gas station.

I would die in this house.

If there's no mortgage,

Ben Malcore

oh my gosh.

for every man.

Absolutely.

But I do think that that has that has to happen.

The municipal is going to.

municipalities have to get involved.

So let's say you buy 60 acres of land, and I don't quarter lots, whatever you want to do.

That's a lot of houses, but there's a lot of infrastructure to that, sewer, water,

Deanna Malcore

and the city's got to pay

Ben Malcore

for that.

They got to say, we'll do that for you, as long as you build these, because once you've got families living there, it's good for the schools, it's good for the tax base, it's good for the labor force, but you got to step up and, because it's expensive.

I mean, I

Deanna Malcore

just want to say in their defense,

Ben Malcore

it's expensive to build.

The city is going to have to take on debt for that, but you've

Deanna Malcore

got to

Ben Malcore

bank on them because they don't really tip residential, you know, tax increment financing.

They don't really do that for residential.

And that just, I think that needs to happen.

Deanna Malcore

Yeah, yeah, that would be nice.

I'm sure, you know, with everything that the developers do, I'm sure they would really appreciate it.

Well, and they're not, they're not so much.

I'm sure

John Mino

they're anxiously listening for our

Ben Malcore

advice.

As much as these guys are entrepreneurs, they're not the biggest risk takers I've ever met, you know?

Deanna Malcore

That's why they're building

Ben Malcore

apartments

Deanna Malcore

now

Ben Malcore

versus condos or starter homes.

Deanna Malcore

I would say that they're in that you've lived and you've learned category.

You've done it before, you know where you don't take your risks

John Mino

anymore.

Jim Schmidt

But I can change so

John Mino

fast, huh?

Yeah.

Jim Schmidt

But I agree with you, you know, just having like older, older community, all ranches,

Ben Malcore

kind

Jim Schmidt

of zero inch.

Heck, it worked at the villages.

Ben Malcore

What if you would do that style and then what if you would like...

Off for a little weed garden.

We're thinking of trying to talk to Marinette.

Would you let him know it's still illegal in the state of Wisconsin?

John Mino

He's talking

Ben Malcore

about he's

Radio Announcer

illegal and he could go into the big

John Mino

house

Radio Announcer

and

John Mino

be somebody's

Radio Announcer

friend.

He didn't let me finish.

So the mayor has been fired.

The

Deanna Malcore

guy the

Ben Malcore

real

John Mino

estate developer who ended up going to prison because

these hardcore criminals dispensing advice to them.

If you guys could build a house, if somebody said, I'm donating three acres, but you guys have to build a house that you know would be really popular.

What would you guys design?

What would you guys build?

Deanna Malcore

Ranch, 100% ranch.

And you build 12 of them.

You just make them quarter

Ben Malcore

acre

Deanna Malcore

lots and you

Ben Malcore

wouldn't build one house on three acres.

That's, that's a waste of opportunity.

John Mino

He did a third of acres.

pretty

Deanna Malcore

much a lot, isn't

John Mino

it?

Deanna Malcore

Well, that is a nice size lot.

Maybe

Ben Malcore

that's a quarter to small.

But I just think that that kind of stuff has to happen.

You talk about the villages and you're joking about it, but is there anything more successful than

Deanna Malcore

that?

Exactly.

Exactly.

You've got something going on.

I don't know what

John Mino

it

Ben Malcore

is,

Deanna Malcore

but it works.

John Mino

So continue.

What you guys would do to design it?

Deanna Malcore

Oh, yeah.

Well, I mean, I think you've got to go.

I mean, if we're doing a few of them, you've got to do a little sampling of just about every kind of interior.

But because interiors are very personalized, you know, you can walk into a white woodwork home and somebody loves it.

And the next person is like, this is out.

I like stained wood.

You know, so, you know, the cosmetic part of it don't really know, but you've got to have a ranch home.

You've got, you know, if you're going to build something right now that you want, you want to know that it's going to resale no matter what.

that

John Mino

you

Ben Malcore

guys know after all these years

John Mino

of business that you guys absolutely can't miss.

Ben Malcore

But you don't wanna make it look all the same either.

So like in Nashville, right?

They have these developments and you can pick out good, better, best.

But they will not let you deviate.

They must have a warehouse for

Deanna Malcore

a better best.

You see, well,

Ben Malcore

look, I'd like to just, no, no, no, no, no.

These are your three choices for windows doors,

Deanna Malcore

color, siding, all

Ben Malcore

sorts of stuff.

Yeah, they do that in Minneapolis as well.

Deanna Malcore

And that's where you can...

You could make a little money.

You can.

And it's kind of like the condos that we have out in Luxembourg, across from Northbrook, is they're really all look, you know, they're the same style, but you can pick out whatever outside you want.

So you're picking out your color vinyl, as long as it's not anything, you know, crazy.

You're picking out your stone.

So every single one, when you drive down the street, looks a little bit different, even though it's the same style of house.

John Mino

Exactly.

So you know what I wish people would realize sometimes?

that when they put really bizarre colors on their house, like we were gonna do a thing at two rivers.

And I swear, the neighbors, the quote unquote neighbors, had such ugly, bizarre doors, they were turquoise.

Out of this normal looking house, these bright, unbelievable turquoise, it's like.

I wouldn't want to wake up every morning and look at that ugly door next door to me.

I think that spray

Deanna Malcore

paint stuff.

This door has really impacted his life.

Yeah, I'm just saying.

I think you

John Mino

should pen a letter.

Every day of the three in the morning of can of spray paint put a big X on that door every time,

Ben Malcore

every morning.

And the way around that is to get into an association where

Jim Schmidt

you can't.

Right.

Deanna Malcore

There you go.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah.

I don't know if you've ever seen that home in downtown Sheboygan that's painted in Broncos

John Mino

colors.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's one in downtown Manitowoc, though, right by that church that's for sale, which I'd like to buy.

There's a big church.

I'd love to buy an old church.

Yes, there's one for sale in downtown Manitowoc.

Can I get an amen?

But somebody did a Packerhouse next door that's all green and gold.

Ben Malcore

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That Denver guy, that he went all in.

He went all in.

He went all in.

He's super committed.

That's not a logo, man.

He is all in

Deanna Malcore

on that.

He's

Ben Malcore

all in.

And I'm sure his neighbors hate that, but had he been in an association like,

Even out here, you know, some shingle roofs, I mean, that's not shingle roofs, cedar.

Unknown Speaker

That's

Deanna Malcore

expensive.

Over by

Ben Malcore

the Lake

Deanna Malcore

Largo.

You want to

Ben Malcore

live over there, that's not cheap, but the neighbors feel very confident that nobody's going to have vinyl fighting next to them, nobody's going

Deanna Malcore

to

Ben Malcore

have asphalt shingles next to them.

And I don't know, there's some comfort in that.

Deanna Malcore

Well, you know, I think a lot of people, they don't like those associations.

They don't like people telling them what they can and cannot do.

But at the end of the day, it does keep the values up.

It does.

It

Jim Schmidt

does.

John Mino

when for everybody to think about it.

So, okay, so we got to Ranch House and we all interrupted you.

After the Ranch House, you were designed.

Deanna Malcore

Am I like taking this from like a plant?

Well,

Jim Schmidt

first and foremost, let's talk design.

I was looking at the planner out in the lobby and the planter has like two weeds, plastic weeds

Deanna Malcore

coming

Jim Schmidt

out of it,

Deanna Malcore

foam blocks.

But these are your lobby.

With the tanks still

Jim Schmidt

on.

And I'm like,

What are the guys doing?

Is

Radio Announcer

that

Jim Schmidt

our lobby?

Radio Announcer

Your lobby.

Jim Schmidt

Intern.

Yeah.

Radio Announcer

Go up there and check it out first.

Yeah.

Go check it out.

He's absolutely

Jim Schmidt

right.

Yeah, absolutely.

Post a picture to...

to your page, post

Deanna Malcore

a picture, show

Jim Schmidt

people.

Ben may have already posted a picture.

You know,

Radio Announcer

the devil, the

Jim Schmidt

devil is in the details.

Radio Announcer

Well, it's nice having the

John Mino

Melchor.

Radio Announcer

One

John Mino

segment you fire the mayor.

Ben Malcore

John's like I've been waiting two years for this.

I finally got my own shoulder.

If you're going to build these ranch homes, what would be the price point?

Deanna Malcore

You know, you'd love to keep them if you could.

I mean, it is hard.

If you could keep them under like 350.

Yeah,

Jim Schmidt

I was going to say

Deanna Malcore

350.

Jim Schmidt

Fantastic.

Yeah,

Ben Malcore

right around 350, 325.

I don't know a lot about square foot, but if the infrastructure is put in for

Deanna Malcore

you, maybe you could swing something down 325.

And make sure you have the egress in the plumbing in the basement.

That's the big thing.

If you're not going to finish the basement, make sure you have those things in

John Mino

there.

That's huge.

People don't realize that you put in the egress window, even if you're not going to use it for somebody that might buy it then, that five grand or whatever they'd have to put into a new bedroom.

It's worth it when you're built.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

100%.

We're with the Malcors.

Ben and Deanna Malcore.

Moving with the Malcors.

Back with them right after

Jim Schmidt

this.

Deanna Malcor

And welcome back to who's fired next?

Ben Malcor

It's the the intern get out and look at those plans I was

Deanna Malcor

just going through the other offices to see if I could find it

The Host

This is great stuff with you guys, but let me ask her what you guys have now on the market where you got listed and what you're looking for

Deanna Malcor

Yeah, yeah, so I'll start we've got a beauty over on st.

Mary's Boulevard

We're at

The Host

49.

In Alloy,

Deanna Malcor

$4.99.

We talked about that streak.

Love it.

Impeccable property.

Impeccable.

Co-Host or Contributor

Yeah.

Deanna Malcor

I had a great, great neighborhood.

And a great neighborhood.

Co-Host or Contributor

And great space.

I mean, it's really nice.

I mean, it'd be nice for everyone.

But if you have small children, all the bedrooms are together upstairs.

So you find a lot where you've got the master downstairs and all the extra bedrooms upstairs.

And that's tough when you have little kids because they want to be on the same floor.

So all the bedrooms are upstairs.

The primary suite is huge.

Deanna Malcor

It's huge.

Co-Host or Contributor

Yeah.

It's huge.

with a Cedar walk-in closet and extra closets and a sitting area and a little reading nook.

Ben Malcor

And it's crazy.

I'm sure it's got great curb appeal.

It does.

I love it.

Well, those

Co-Host or Contributor

boulevards are

Ben Malcor

so

Co-Host or Contributor

beautiful,

Ben Malcor

honestly.

The Host

And you got booked in, but you got Webster, which you want to get on there and hit either way.

And you got Riverside down below.

It's a perfect location.

Well, you're super

Co-Host or Contributor

close to the Fox River Trail,

The Host

too.

So if you

Co-Host or Contributor

like to walk or bike or, you know...

Skateboard, whatever.

The Host

We were going to say rollerblades.

Actually, I

Co-Host or Contributor

was going to say roller skating.

Oh, roller

The Host

skating.

I couldn't come up with grade, and I was like, that's going to sound really old.

Yeah.

And what are your buyers looking for?

Co-Host or Contributor

Oh, my gosh.

Everything.

Right now, we're working with a lot of buyers that are looking, 325, 350, and below.

And that's a really tough market to be in.

We still have our buyer looking up in Door County for waterfront on the bay.

So if you have a beautiful home for bedrooms on the bay side or a lake in Door County, they'd be really interested in that.

So

Deanna Malcor

reach out

Co-Host or Contributor

to us.

But yeah, it's, you know, we've got the home over in Moose Creek Estates.

The Host

That one is still,

Co-Host or Contributor

we have buyers kind of circling it right

The Host

now.

I'm surprised that one wasn't scooped up right away.

Co-Host or Contributor

One is a beautiful home, honestly.

I think it's.

you know, and I may be biased, but I think it's one of them.

The, well, it's definitely the prettiest on their street.

It's not the largest, but it just has such great curb appeal.

They, when they built it, they just did.

The Host

Yeah.

It's full

Co-Host or Contributor

of like a reclaimed barnwood.

Yeah.

Really neat stuff.

The Host

I've got a garage full of reclaimed barnwood a few.

Co-Host or Contributor

Yeah.

You could sell it for

The Host

big bucks.

Yeah.

Co-Host or Contributor

I know.

I, you know, people ask all the time where they can find it.

The Host

We'll give them your name.

You know what I'm building this summer or not?

I tore a bunch of wooden doors off an old wooden silo.

And I'm making coffee tables out of them.

Co-Host or Contributor

Oh, very cool.

The Host

Yeah.

I got the handles.

I got them sandblasted and everything to get all the rust off.

Sure.

So it's pretty cool if you're looking for a tape, a coffee table made out of an actual wooden silo door.

Yeah.

It's probably 150 years old.

That's

Co-Host or Contributor

super cool.

Yeah.

I

The Host

love stuff like that.

Co-Host or Contributor

Yeah,

Ben Malcor

I'll

Co-Host or Contributor

make you one.

Ben Malcor

Fantastic.

I hear that all the time.

I really want to find a table that's an old barn.

That's unique.

People like that stuff.

They do.

I don't.

But hey, anyway, what else is...

So these homes fire

The Host

off all your ammunition.

Ben Malcor

Yeah.

The Host

He said for six days, it's all he did

Ben Malcor

was fire.

Oh, and four minutes.

All right.

So that's cool.

What else?

Anything else you want to talk about here?

Co-Host or Contributor

Well, we've got the condos that

Ben Malcor

are

Co-Host or Contributor

coming that we've got the condos.

in Luxembourg, which are their single family.

So it's kind of your, it's like living in a single family home, which is really nice and you can, you can custom build them.

Deanna Malcor

And we, and

Co-Host or Contributor

we've got the condos, uh, West Point Center that are coming right over by the OC.

Um,

Ben Malcor

and those you have a show condo and then we have a show room.

Co-Host or Contributor

All they need to do is reach out to us.

We can meet them over at the show

Ben Malcor

room and

Co-Host or Contributor

we can walk through the whole process.

So those are kind of hopefully going to be starting this summer, but.

you want to reserve them now, because I think that once they get going, they're going to go real fast.

The Host

And I would have to think, I don't even want to talk about this, but interest rates, I think they are what they are.

And nobody sees any weird kind of thing that's going to knock them either way, right?

Co-Host or Contributor

No.

And we don't hear it a lot from

The Host

our buyers anymore.

We don't.

Co-Host or Contributor

You know, quite

Deanna Malcor

honestly, it's still a good rate.

It's still

Co-Host or Contributor

a good rate

Deanna Malcor

right now.

Yeah.

Co-Host or Contributor

Yeah.

So that's not anything that I think is keeping.

I mean, I really don't feel like.

I mean, there's a lot of buyers out there.

We just need more, we need more stock.

Deanna Malcor

We need more inventory.

Yeah,

Co-Host or Contributor

absolutely.

So if you're thinking about selling right now is a good time.

How can they get

The Host

a

Deanna Malcor

hold of you

Co-Host or Contributor

guys?

They can call us or text us at 920-495-7653.

You can go on Ben's website, which is just benmelcore.com.

You can Facebook message us, you know, however

Ben Malcor

there's many ways.

Or stop in at your lovely new office.

Co-Host or Contributor

Yeah, you might want to call us first, because if we're not there,

It's

The Host

1200 block, right?

Co-Host or Contributor

Yep, it's 1238

The Host

Main Street.

I get to ask, has this whole phone debacle caused problems?

Co-Host or Contributor

We, luckily, do not have any problems.

Oh,

Deanna Malcor

okay.

Yeah, we don't have, we have not been impacted at all, but I know, you know, I just had an inspection down in the valley yesterday, or two days ago, and the inspector he had.

He had issues he had to work through.

Co-Host or Contributor

And I know people have had a hard time getting ahold of us.

So, you know, when it first started, there was this, you know, we can't get ahold of you.

You're not answering your phone.

Ben Malcor

You're not answering your phone, right?

Come and come to find

Co-Host or Contributor

out it was really on there

Ben Malcor

and when the call came through.

It's not me, it's you.

Wow.

Could have been handled better.

Yeah, I think so.

They're a

Co-Host or Contributor

great company.

Ben Malcor

I love them.

We've been at 30 years.

Yeah,

Co-Host or Contributor

we moved from them a while, a couple years ago.

Right now, we're really happy about it.

Ben Malcor

My wife's calling around to get in there like, well, we're too busy right now to eat the competitor.

Oh, I can't even imagine.

You know what I mean?

I just want to say it's... Yeah, sure.

The Host

Well, wish I'm the best.

We do absolutely.

We have great, great friends that work there, and I can't even imagine what their days are like these

Co-Host or Contributor

days.

Well, we kind of sent out one of those, like, we're thinking about

Ben Malcor

you texts to some of our friends that work there, because you just know it's... Absolutely.

People are...

The shelter, we need phones, so we got those burner phones that you can get.

Oh, sure.

We got a couple of

The Host

those.

Yeah, good.

Oh, and my daughter texts me when I say, Dad, why won't you talk to

Ben Malcor

me?

I

The Host

swear.

I will, if I can.

Ben and Deanna Malkor, you guys are so awesome, and it's so much fun having you guys.

Ben Malcor

Thanks for having us.

Thank

The Host

you.

Ben Malcor

Enjoy Portland.

Yeah, we will do it.

All

The Host

right.

All right, check them out.

Ben and Deanna Malkor, they are the best.

Mine or the Mayor, back after us.

Jim Schmidt

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And

John Mino

here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

Thanks to all our special guests today, Cheese Curd Nick.

He'll be at the Farmers Market on Broadway for 8, 3 o'clock.

He'll be set up with his unbelievable fried cheese curds and his

Coney Island hot dogs and his brats and his hamburgers and in the whole thing and it's all without carbs or calories because I said he eats that on a daily basis and he's lost 47 pounds So half of

Jim Schmidt

that is true.

He did lose 47 pounds, but

John Mino

might not have eaten his own shit.

I

Jim Schmidt

don't think he did

John Mino

but I don't

Jim Schmidt

ask him

John Mino

Jessica Williams and Jessica George local female veterans a veteran salute brought to by Olson legal group.

They are fantastic in Oshkosh and in

Oh, I'm sorry.

I thought I'd see what you're saying.

Sorry.

Ben and Deanna Malkor, they're just not fun.

No, they're not at all.

If you want a good time, if you want people, you know, no, not at all.

Just too cut and dry.

Yeah, man, are they fun.

Then Mike Howehan, general manager, headlines with the press times for a weekly segment.

How you doing, Mike?

It's good to see you again.

Mike Howehan

Yeah, it's good to be back.

Thanks.

John Mino

Yes, been allowed.

Do they just not want this Kramer?

So you're not allowed to come?

Or was that where does

Mike Howehan

Chris do something?

I think that.

I think with Tori and Janelle here, I

John Mino

think

Mike Howehan

that was working well.

Yeah, he

John Mino

dominated.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, we're firing the mayor today, so maybe we'll get them in.

And we fired the BALCORS too, so I'm the only one here.

On

Jim Schmidt

Broadway, that's where you're located.

You must be excited about a little more energy coming back there with the farmers market.

That's pretty happened in place for your employees and to work and

Mike Howehan

live.

Yeah, it's incredible.

I grew up in Green Bay, so I knew what Broadway was 40, 50 years ago.

Did

John Mino

you hang out there?

I don't want to, in college, I don't want to.

Were you wearing your leather?

Yeah, wow.

Mike Howehan

But what Brian and the on-Broadway crew have done with on Broadway is unbelievable.

It looks like a hallmark.

channel in the winter when they do the Chris Kindle market.

John Mino

And like I said, it reminds me of those little side corner kind of little things in New York City.

Exactly.

Jim Schmidt

But yeah, but they got to get the semis off that road.

That's very, very distracting to window shoppers.

John Mino

You know,

Jim Schmidt

it just and I think they're working.

They got some ideas.

I'd like to see that happen.

But that is the renovation and wasn't without a

an investment either, but I think it's paying dividends.

Mike Howehan

Yeah, and then when the public market, I mean, they're expecting, I believe, I think I was talking to Brooke or Marion, a million people.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah, I just want to say they throw it back on that number.

That's more than the Packers get.

Mike Howehan

Somebody had told me Cabela's gets like 750,000 visitors a year.

John Mino

I believe that.

Oh yeah, that's a museum.

748,000 of them are from the UP when they come down on a weekend.

Go through their parking lot on a weekend, see how many Michigan plates.

And

Jim Schmidt

a few hundred thousand just go there to look at everything.

John Mino

That's a little

Jim Schmidt

museum with all those animals and stuff.

But no, that's going to be great.

I think the farmers market is going to work.

A couple of things they've got to work on.

Well, how are you doing?

Your paper.

Paper of the Year?

Mike Howehan

Well not paper, close actually.

Wisconsin Newspaper Association, every year all the paid newspapers that belong to, well all paid newspapers belong to the Wisconsin Newspaper Association and every year in Madison they have an awards banquet and we were this close to becoming winning the paper of the year.

Wow.

But no, we last night, we

John Mino

were this close to becoming show of the year.

I can't get my arms any wider here.

Mike Howehan

But yeah, we were at the Green Bay City Council.

I was there last night and we were voted in as the official newspaper of the city

Jim Schmidt

of

Mike Howehan

Green

Jim Schmidt

Bay.

So they're going to use your paper for public notices for everything because we have to, the city, every municipality has to.

publish things and yes and they picked your paper over the other guy yes well congratulations to that that's a good revenue source for you and it what that means is more people get their information i think because the council voted on it right

John Mino

yes they represent

Jim Schmidt

the city yep yep

John Mino

good for you that's a nice job at finding spot like personality kind of offbeat sort of stories i like that

Mike Howehan

yeah i think i attribute that a lot to chris lennard who just is a history buff yeah

Somebody that just truly cares about the community and she comes up with a lot of that.

Jim Schmidt

That's cool.

I like that a lot.

Yeah, let me ask are you thinking of more frequent publishing or where are you gonna go with this you I think a lot of people when you start over like that's not gonna work You know because you were in existence at one time and kind of the Chronicle was and then not now it's back and I obviously very strong if you're voted the newspaper of the community Plans yeah, well

You don't have to tell

Mike Howehan

I'll tell you what I feel is the future newspapers because I think what you're asking is will we publish a printed product more than one day a week and We feel that the future of newspapers is once a week in print on the weekends You get in your mailbox where you can sit on your back deck in the morning with a coffee or in the evening with a beer and Read the

Jim Schmidt

or like John the morning with the beer, but okay.

Yeah,

Mike Howehan

it's five o'clock somewhere

But then daily online where you got a high school girl softball game on a Tuesday night.

We don't wait for our paper.

We put it online as fast as possible either Tuesday night or Wednesday morning.

John Mino

You guys do a great job covering local amateur sports.

Mike Howehan

Yeah, that's, I mean, we're the official paper of all the school districts as well.

And that was one of the things when we bought the paper from Mike Avenger because it was originally the, uh, Ash Waban and press that Lois started.

And then Mike took it over when she passed away.

And, uh, when he passed away, long story short, we ended up buying it with the intentions of moving into Brown County because there really wasn't a lot of local high school sports coverage.

And, and those student athletes need that.

John Mino

I mean, you guys had a great article on the.

Was it Bayport and Notre Dame, Girls Lacrosse?

You know what I mean?

It's like, that's cool.

That

Mike Howehan

needs

Jim Schmidt

to be covered.

John Mino

Girls Lacrosse is being covered, but that's cool.

Mike Howehan

Yeah, nobody's coming.

And here's the thing, too.

The other thing is people read news differently than they did 40 years ago.

I mean, there's still people that love to get it in the paper.

form in

John Mino

the

Mike Howehan

mailbox, but other people want to read it online or on the Facebook feed, but other people want to see it in videos.

So that lacrosse game that you mentioned, we actually had one of our interns there, a high school intern, a gentleman named Grayson that's doing tremendous from Bayport.

He went to it and not only wrote a story, took some photos for a photo gallery, but then he did a video interview.

of two of their athletes that we put on our website, on Facebook, and on TikTok.

And on TikTok alone, one of those video interviews of the girl, one of the girls got over 17,000 views in a few days.

John Mino

Oh my

Mike Howehan

gosh!

My time!

John Mino

Time!

Are we on TikTok?

What's that?

Are we on TikTok?

We are not.

Okay, but isn't it?

Because I don't want to see you guys dance.

Yeah, that's the big thing.

Understood.

Mike I've never danced in public.

I'm not about to now.

I'm right there with you.

Thank you

Jim Schmidt

Talk about the the price of your paper.

I still I think I don't know you gotta be raising the price sooner later in a year Yeah, I mean I get three newspapers and yours is not only the best.

It's the least expensive which it's great

Mike Howehan

Yeah, at this point, we're $59 a year.

Unfortunately, the cost of newsprint keeps going up

Jim Schmidt

and the US

Mike Howehan

mail keeps going up.

We're getting hit again

John Mino

with

Mike Howehan

another increase from the US mail.

But we want to be careful with that.

But compared to other print publications, we're very inexpensive.

John Mino

I just got to say, I'm not sure what the price of ink at a printer shop is these days.

I just bought my own home printer.

OK.

And already after two days cartridge low and they check the price.

It's like 60 bucks

Jim Schmidt

Yeah,

John Mino

it's like what's

Jim Schmidt

yeah,

John Mino

I don't think is so expensive.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah

John Mino

that

Jim Schmidt

It's nice to get it delivered, right?

I mean we like that and you probably can't get your own delivery person like some other people but That's not gonna slow down that the post office because they've raised their prices and Lord their quality of service five days now, right Johnny Did you get a letter from a man talk to Green Bay your wife sent that or it it was crazy and it's like

The service used to be better and cheaper now, but whatever.

It's

John Mino

a government entity.

It was from Princeton, Wisconsin to Manitowoc.

It took seven days.

We have a paper up in... And it was a Manila folder, so maybe that was, you know, heavier than, like, whatever.

But,

Mike Howehan

yeah.

We have a paper up in Marinette County called The Pestigo Times,

John Mino

which is just like The

Mike Howehan

Press Times.

It's all local news, local high school sports.

We're the only ones up in Marinette County covering Crivets, Wasaki, Gillet, Surin.

And that paper...

My parents grew up in Marinette, so when we had the opportunity

John Mino

to buy it.

I picked that up at the gas station in Marinette every time I'm driving to the UP.

You know exactly where I mean it.

Mike Howehan

And when we bought that paper, it had over 8,000 subscribers, which is one of the largest paid subscriber papers in the state.

And I'm going to the US Post Office on this.

And what was happening is our office was good.

When we bought it, it was getting inundated with calls, with paper, people not getting their paper.

sometimes two weeks late, sometimes five days late.

And what we discovered was the papers were getting delivered from our printer out of Chano to the Pestigo Post Office.

Now, I also want to say the people that work at the local post offices are great

John Mino

people.

They're

Mike Howehan

great people.

They do everything they

John Mino

can to help you.

It's not

Mike Howehan

them.

Right.

But what happened is the papers getting delivered to the Pestigo Post Office all 8,000, and then the Pestigo Post Office was taking their papers, sorting them, and they're getting them out in the mail the next day.

And then we personally delivered them to the crew at Marinette post offices in Menominee, and those got out the next day.

But then all these people that lived in Gillett, Surin, Wasaki, they were getting the paper a week, two weeks late, and we discovered what was happening is the papers that got delivered to the Pestigo Post Office got delivered back to the Green Bay Post Office.

John Mino

And

Mike Howehan

then Green Bay was shorthanded employees, so they were getting sent to Milwaukee.

And sometimes getting lost so now what we've done and it was the suggestion actually of the postmaster in in Pestigo who's tremendous We're delivering personally to each little post office site site and now that's eliminated the

John Mino

wow Yeah worth my cool hand

Did you probably pronounce it, Mike?

Hollahan.

Hollahan.

I had no worries.

I had a father, Hollahan, one time.

And that's, you're not really attending priests, are you?

No, I'm an athlete, but.

It's pronounced the same way.

With the headlines for the press times.

Everybody is nice.

And we got a thing called Pass It Forward, Intern Program.

We're also going to be talking about it.

Sure.

Let's get to the

Jim Schmidt

intern program.

I think that is critical for students.

We have one right here.

Mike Howehan

Yeah, the internship program has been mind-blowing in my other life and Chris Leonard and her other life We'd like to show Fantasy Island.

We'd be teachers and high school teachers and In the we all know the state of the the news industry newspapers TV

across the board, it's in a state of flux.

And there's a shortage of local news coverage, and there's a shortage of students getting into journalism.

And newspapers are shutting down nationwide, and in addition to that, when they need to find employees, they're having a hard time finding employees.

And in general, the newspaper industry is old.

The people that are working in it are old.

We kind of Mr. Magood into this.

It wasn't our brainchild, but Microsoft a few years ago, four years ago reached out to us and other entities and said, hey, would you like to be involved with a grant that we're doing with local journalism?

And we said, absolutely yes.

And so we got involved in it.

In long story short, we tied him with UW Green Bay.

The Dean of Humanities, Charles Ryback, took the money that he got from Microsoft and invested it into his students so they could have a paid internship.

at the press times, and it was six students a semester.

In that first semester, two of those students, our sports editor, Tori Wittenbrock, and our city pages editor, Janelle Fisher, were a part of that internship program.

And what we saw, excuse me, was that you get the best and brightest, because we interview the interns, and we select the ones that we want to bring in.

All of them come in and we create a great atmosphere in our office intentionally and they all love the whole internship program and we see when they came in versus the end of the semester under the tutelage of Chris Leonard or Tori, our sports editor, Janela.

how to cover the news, how to write the news.

You don't go to the left, you don't go to the right, you write right down the middle, and by the end of the semester, there's seasoned veterans covering school boards, city council.

And so we knew the Microsoft money was gonna run out after, they said three years, they ended up going four.

It was tremendous.

But we reached out to the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Popkey, and Nicollet National Bank, and asked if they wanted to get behind it.

They've increased their backing the last few years, each year with

John Mino

it, which we can get into a little

Jim Schmidt

bit.

John Mino

And we'll talk about one other thing you mentioned.

When I was going into college, journalism was literally the most popular major, because during Watergate, where everybody wanted to be an investigative reporter.

But a lot of schools have dropped their journalism programs.

It's bizarre.

Can't wait to be back with more.

Mike Holhand, general manager, headlines of the press times.

Back after this.

Mike Holahan

Hey,

Host

welcome back.

Hey, this is really enjoyable.

Mike Hollahan, General Manager, Headlines of the Press Times, a Pass It Forward intern program.

Both talk about our

experiences with kids or ourselves, with the world of journalism itself.

But, Mike, another, Jim brought up something right before we put the headphones back on.

You get that journalism degree, and I'll tell you what, doesn't matter what the paper industry is, man, are there about a million different offshoots you can do with that once you have that degree, isn't there?

Mike Holahan

Yeah, absolutely.

Like, I mean, Jim,

Jim

talk about what your daughter did.

Yeah, she does.

She got a journalism degree, and I, she met with a lot of journalists.

I just, one of them was, ah.

Don't do it.

There's no money in it.

And I'm like, oh, I don't know about that.

Don't worry about the money.

You know, we'll figure that out later.

And she's from Nashville to New York now, assistant publisher.

And it's just led to some great things.

And John was talking about his start to journalism led to TV.

And, you know, I just think it

It's not like you're going to write news.

There's nothing wrong with writing newspaper your whole rest of your life.

I mean, like he said, there's Watergate.

Some of that stuff was very cool to be the investigative reporter.

But I think journalism is a very rewarding career.

Doesn't start real high pay.

But I don't think that should be the focus,

Mike Holahan

right?

Agreed.

Agreed.

And again, back to that internship program with the Packers Giveback and the Nicollet National Bank, they've been involved now for a few years.

We're now up to nine students per semester.

between St.

Norbert and GW Green Bay and then NWTC where John came through.

And it's unbelievable.

It's been a game changer for us in the aspect that, again, you look across the whole United States and papers are failing.

Papers that are there are older people.

And in our thought process is moving forward with these interns, they're teaching us things as well.

Because here's the thing is the future of journalism, it's so important what we're doing right now because it's all in flux, but in flux is opportunity.

And the future of journalism isn't what it was 10 years ago, 20 years ago.

You're still going to do your serious stories because that needs to be done.

You're still going to cover city council and school board because that needs to be done.

But in addition to that, we got to start understanding this younger generation doesn't want to read the paper like our generation did.

So we're heavily involved in multimedia.

One of our former interns, Katie Koisman, she now is the head digital editor for our papers where we're doing a lot of video.

And one of the things that we noticed is these high school sports videos where we'll just put a Bluetooth

microphone on the athlete and do a video interview with your iPhone or Google Pixel and put it up online.

Some of these videos, Tori Wittenbrock did one at a Packer game that got over 865,000 views on TikTok alone.

And so it's- Todd, are we on TikTok yet?

Yeah, just man.

We will be by this afternoon.

That's right.

We'll monetize that.

None of us will be working here anymore.

And we are.

Nikolay National Bank sponsors all the high school stuff, but they people, it's telling us people want to consume news video.

We do a lot of news video as well and it and and John does a lot of it for us creamer.

He is incredible at it I mean it's high production stuff by a one-man band because John is incredible and and John is the future of what a journalist needs to be John goes to a ribbon cutting takes photos in addition to that will do a video

And in addition to that, we'll write 300-word story.

And back in the day, the way it worked with journalists is they had a reporter go to it and a separate photographer.

Well, you can't afford to do that anymore.

So you need to be multimedia.

But the other thing I'm saying is, as a newspaper now, we're looking at this summer, Tori's sister.

Bri is a junior at Tennessee and she did an internship with us last year on the marketing side.

She has a personality that's incredible We're gonna start doing edutainment videos where we're gonna We're gonna tell a story.

We're not gonna go left or right.

We're gonna Give people information, but Tori's gonna do it with video that's gonna be entertaining as well And my guess is that's gonna take off like crazy.

Mm-hmm.

Host

That's fantastic.

Jim

So in the morning I get

I buy, obviously by your paper, by your competitor's paper, and a couple other ones that are paper that I read, but then I get three of them online.

And online, I wonder if you're gonna do this.

They have the story, and like Biden's whole prostate cancer, that's a long story, that's a long article, and you can hit where they just, it's read by a computer.

Mike Holahan

Yeah, I get the New York Times, and you can do that on there.

You can just say, have the story read to you.

Which I love if you're driving, you know?

Obviously.

Host

How

Jim

do you get a job

Host

being the person that reads?

No, it's a computer.

It's

Mike Holahan

probably AI generated.

No, they

Jim

say that before that.

This is going to be, but if you're cooking or something, right?

And you still want to hear the story.

Is that something your paper is considering?

Mike Holahan

That's a really good idea, Jim.

I mean, we do podcasts, but maybe we need to start doing that as well.

That's not a bad idea.

Correct me

Host

if I'm wrong, Michael.

And again, I'm a huge fan of print journalism, always have been.

I miss the old days.

But was the journalism whatever you want to call it industry, were they a little slow in foreseeing the future that the whole process of the paper and the printing and yada, yada, yada was maybe getting a little that model was little losing its luster or was the news print business a little slow to adapt?

Mike Holahan

I I would say, you know, everybody was in the whirlpool.

for a while there when the internet came out and nobody really knew what to do.

I mean, for a lot of things, if I would have looked back and said, hey, I should buy up some domain names and you can take a lot of money on that.

But I think people are starting to learn it now.

And I think, you know,

The future we got to go to where the people are.

That's what they want and and that's what we're trying to do here and I I personally think you know It's like Russell Wilson.

Why not us?

Why not us here in Green Bay?

Our owner Pat Wood has talked at national newspaper conferences about this internship program.

I think it's something that

is a model for all newspapers to turn things around, because you're draining the swamp, you're bringing in young journalists, and you're bringing in young journalists that have ideas of how their generation wants to receive the news.

But I don't think the print edition's ever gonna go away.

Once a week.

Awesome.

Yeah.

Host

Awesome.

Mike, keep doing what you're doing, man.

Sure, enjoy it.

Enjoy working with you guys.

Mike Holahan

We do.

Host

Check him out, ladies, gentlemen.

Press times.

Headlines are the press times.

Mike Holahan, thanks very much for being here, buddy.

Well, thanks for having me, guys.

Quick break!

Terry Barrow will be joining us when he comes back.

Announcer

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Here's John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

John Mino

Hey, welcome back.

Mino and the Mayor here.

Special thanks, Mike Holland.

General manager headlines for the press times, Ben and Deanna Malkor, moving with the Malkors.

Check them out, folks.

They've got some beautiful places listed right now that just sound fantastic.

Jessica, by the, those ones at Northbrook still fascinate me.

I'd like to see one of those that just go across for their Friday night buffets.

And

Jim Schmidt

golf.

John Mino

And golf.

Jessica Williams, Jessica George, local veterans.

Veteran salute brought to you by Olson Legal Group of Oshkosh and Berlin.

And of course, Cheese Curd, Nick Farmers Market.

That I was gonna say looks like it's cleared up out there, but how's that going not that just got brighter got a little bit brighter, but it's That is still look at when you see the leaves turn that way from where we're sitting and we're facing south and all the leaves are turned You know, it's right coming right from the north and from the bay

Jim Schmidt

It's one more little shout out to Mike Holland that the fact that he's all in on that industry.

John Mino

I love not just his paper

Jim Schmidt

like he's

Talking about getting a bench and getting interns and where it's going to go in the future.

And I just was really impressed with him today.

I'm so glad he was awarded the newspaper.

John Mino

Yeah.

No, that's fantastic.

Yeah.

Great guess once again.

No, Terry Barney Todd.

No, sir.

Announcer

All

John Mino

right, Terry.

Sleep it in.

Hung over again or was it anything in general?

Yeah.

Was that what she's going with?

Although this is a good

Jim Schmidt

time to complain about phones because I just tried to call my mom and

John Mino

do some people have regular service because I know people were saying sell com to sell com.

Might work if you do this and then you know,

Jim Schmidt

but is they say

John Mino

spin around with it?

Yeah, I

Jim Schmidt

thought they said voice was working

John Mino

Not for me, and I know I've called I've tried calling some cell com numbers.

I just what are you Todd?

Verizon Verizon intern boy.

What are you?

I Got cell come to all right try to call me jump my number

Seriously because you never know maybe it did pop up because did some people get do some people have it so they can call anywhere?

Yes, I actually right

Jim Schmidt

your phone does work because you didn't you call me on your cell

Announcer

phone No, he tried calling me on my he's gonna try and call you right now Jim.

He tried to call me this morning and

John Mino

No, go.

Oh, yeah, see that works your work try mine.

Do you have my number?

Announcer

I don't think he

John Mino

does good.

Don't call me

Jim Schmidt

I'll give it to him right now.

Isn't that weird that some sell-to-sell works and others don't?

Because, like I said, I just tried to make a call and I yesterday was chasing down Andre because I needed something from

John Mino

him.

Jim Schmidt

He's on cell comment.

We just ended up texting.

It's just like, that's frustrating though after three, four days.

John Mino

Well, I know I'm waiting for some calls.

And I wanted to set up some stuff and all my guys that I'm dealing with, they're like 75 years old, so they're having textures.

You know, that phone ringing is everything to connect.

And for this, for seven days or whatever I haven't been able to, I've got a couple of events coming up and I'm sure the people are trying to get ahold of me.

Announcer

Yeah.

John Mino

It's going to be interesting.

It's coming through.

Okay.

Announcer

All right.

So you can go sell, come to sell, come.

Okay.

Well, no, I just

Jim Schmidt

tried it and it didn't work.

John Mino

No, but Ryan was right.

I

Jim Schmidt

just tried to call my mom.

Oh, oh, and she's got sell, come.

Yep.

John Mino

Hmm.

Oh, she might have you block something.

Yeah.

Announcer

Too

John Mino

much spice.

I chicken show me.

No, I. No, I. I told the Melchors out there as well.

Thanks a lot about the artificial weeds.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that doesn't bring back memories of my mom.

One of her last things was Trisha put Johnny brought those flowers.

They're fake.

They're out of put him in a drawer, throw him away or something.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah, Josephine.

No, I used Jesse's phone, so.

John Mino

All

Jim Schmidt

right.

Yeah, that's going to be interesting to follow that because... Well, it's going to

John Mino

be interesting if it ever comes out exactly who or what.

Jim Schmidt

Did that.

John Mino

Yeah.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah.

Anyway, it's amazing though how much you kind of rely on that.

It's like when it's gone, it's like holy mackerel.

Okay, is it?

John Mino

Okay.

Jim Schmidt

But I still have a landline.

I'm old fashioned.

John Mino

Okay, I don't.

Okay, this is going to sound real naive of me, but is Selcombe national or are they just Wisconsin-ish?

Well, no, no.

My

Jim Schmidt

kids have it.

Okay.

So you can get it, but they don't have offices in New York and California.

John Mino

I think the people the rest of the country isn't affected by this, huh?

Jim Schmidt

Not sure.

Well, their phones in other parts of the country are affected by this,

John Mino

right?

But

Jim Schmidt

your daughters are affected.

Oh,

Announcer

yeah.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah, that's why we they had to get new way to get them off the plan anyway.

There's

Announcer

a great opportunity.

I mean, come on after a while.

Right.

Were you guys still paying for him?

Jim Schmidt

Wow some stuff, you know, you kind of wind that down when they you know this and that I

Announcer

Know

Jim Schmidt

right and

Announcer

they

Jim Schmidt

all

Announcer

do well then it's time for them to pay for mom and dad I just want to

Jim Schmidt

say in their defense

They've never, well, I shouldn't say it.

I don't, we just, it's always been that way.

Announcer

So we

Jim Schmidt

just, we talked to them this week and said, look, you guys, maybe this is a good time to get your own service.

Okay.

They weren't like, oh my God, I

Announcer

really

Jim Schmidt

need this.

They're like, okay, I don't think they have an idea how much it costs.

But anyway, I think that's it.

I was auto insurance.

We kept on ours, but that's gone.

I don't know.

I think that's pretty much it.

Do you just pay for anything for

Announcer

your daughter?

I have smart kids though.

I

Jim Schmidt

don't

John Mino

think so.

Announcer

smart kids Yeah,

John Mino

absolutely.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah, no as long as the rent is not on our bill But

John Mino

yeah, they are

Jim Schmidt

you're right John they are they make more than I do and I God bless them for that But so this was a good time to break it.

We just never talked about it.

It's not that much either I don't of course I don't I wouldn't know

John Mino

anyway So what's going on?

What do you I just want to ask one more thing?

Do you think it'll ever come out exactly who or what or how?

Or do you think that's almost like one of those classified type things?

Jim Schmidt

No, I think people are gonna dig pretty deep

John Mino

I would think so too.

It's

Jim Schmidt

it's not like a couple hours.

John Mino

Yeah But I mean the scary part with this that's going on out there with these kind of things is if they can if they can hack into something as big as selcom Who's to say they can hack into a financial thing a transportation thing?

I mean it's it is and

Jim Schmidt

You know, maybe they use this as a test model.

Cellcom, I don't know how many subscribers they have.

And it worked.

Maybe Next is a bigger company.

Announcer

This is the

Jim Schmidt

model that worked.

This is how we did it.

We hacked this, did that.

But I worry about everything being online, this banking.

Announcer

That

Jim Schmidt

scares me.

That's why I still keep a little bit under the mattress.

He's just a

John Mino

little bit.

He just

Jim Schmidt

never know.

John Mino

Under the mattress, under the bed, under the mattress in the spare room, under Milton's couch, under the cushions.

Sometimes worry about that.

In the shoebox.

It's like one of those mafia things when they hear the cops are coming.

They're in the freezer, taking out the veal, which is actually $100 bills.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah.

John Mino

Yeah.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah.

Maybe.

Have you, speaking of just current news, that's very current, but.

Do you follow that, uh, New Orleans prison break?

Yeah.

I mean, wow,

John Mino

that.

Okay.

Some people are going to prison now where they will be the maintenance guy.

What?

Jim Schmidt

Okay.

Did you see his background?

And would

John Mino

you

Jim Schmidt

know?

Okay.

I don't look, I'm a, you know, everyone, there's a second chance, but in a prison.

John Mino

Yeah.

Yeah.

Jim Schmidt

It's kind of a record.

John Mino

Yeah.

But did you see how they caught one of the guys?

I mean, this is almost scary from like, you know, the old ones that 1984 big brother's watching.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He was walking down bourbon.

I saw that.

That just looks like a typical guy, baseball cap, hoodie, just strolling very casually

Jim Schmidt

and boom, picked him up.

There he is.

Yeah.

That that's weird.

And you walk down there quite a bit.

And I didn't know that they were.

I didn't either.

Had facial recognition.

John Mino

I mean, he would have blended in.

on any street in any city.

Jim Schmidt

But okay, but for them to recognize your face, they have to have a picture of your face and they don't have ours.

Well,

John Mino

you're out there.

I

Jim Schmidt

thought they got that when you were like fingerprinted and stuff.

No, but

John Mino

how many pictures are on your pictures?

Announcer

They'll use whatever they can use.

Oh, I thought you had to like give permission or something.

John Mino

Do they have those that?

Okay.

What do they have at like gas stations?

Because

Criminals get caught a lot of times coming out of gas stations.

It's like, do they read, um, license plates?

Are there, I don't know.

Announcer

Yeah.

Well, having worked in that industry for a little bit, you know, there's cameras everywhere.

Okay.

John Mino

Absolutely.

Yep.

Do the gas stations themselves put those kinds of things up?

Announcer

Or is

John Mino

that the local law enforcement?

That would be the gas

Jim Schmidt

stations are in charge of that.

John Mino

I

Jim Schmidt

tell you in Green Bay, we have a lot of cameras.

We have more than you think because they were grants.

That's good to know.

John Mino

Well, they were grants that you get.

Announcer

Yeah, I know.

Jim Schmidt

And

John Mino

it's like,

Okay, we'll accept it.

Okay.

Are some of those right up on top above the things?

Announcer

Yeah.

Okay.

Jim's down in his basement like tonight and he's got the big TV screens and he's just clicking around.

Jim Schmidt

Have you ever been in the Packers security room?

Yes.

That's pretty cool.

John Mino

That's very cool.

Jim Schmidt

That's a lot of screens and they can zoom in on stuff.

John Mino

I told you that one time I got a text at a Packer game.

It's like, put it down.

Yeah.

What?

Put it down.

I'm gonna come again.

I got I don't know what's going on Said my know this is so a cop.

That's your third brat and your fourth beer.

Yeah, put him down

Announcer

like where are you?

We should hire him for our diets

John Mino

I always

Jim Schmidt

gave tours when I have guests come in for the games and I went to the security room and then I don't know if you know that type but right down in the

Where the players are a little bit further than where the players locker room is but there's two jail cells, too Yeah,

John Mino

I've never seen those

Jim Schmidt

and I'm like do you guys?

Who goes there's two of them?

Is it male and female or is it the Packers and the opponent?

But he goes no it's male female.

So can you imagine putting right next to each other in the same cell?

It's so

John Mino

if you're is there a board is there?

How do I say it toilet facilities?

Jim Schmidt

It was a pretty small cells.

I don't

I think there's one and there's obviously one in that area.

I don't know but what I thought I really thought that was interesting know that they they were separated by Male-female not because if you put a guy in there from the Bears

John Mino

anything

Jim Schmidt

yeah, I don't think they would end well But anyway, they know what they're doing over there, but yeah, we put them right down in there and then after the game they Take them over to

John Mino

I've heard not to get into this subject too much.

I'll work you get Joe Virgen I've heard that when you're being held, okay that

the other, like, let's say they got, in some places, they got the one little facility, so to speak, in like the corner of the cell.

Okay?

And holding cells.

Yeah, that's

Jim Schmidt

something we have.

John Mino

Okay.

But I, I, okay, I would, my kidneys would explode because I would hold everything until I was more private.

Everything.

Oh, I, I would die from, I get, what's it called, septic?

Because I would hold it for a week and a half.

But what I've heard is that other prisoners or whatever,

Are very respectful about that or like turn their backs and stuff

Jim Schmidt

So okay, I don't I don't remember that being a topic of discussion.

Maybe there's another bathroom in it They take them to you know what I mean?

Yeah, that's what

John Mino

I wanted.

Yeah, I think there was the

Jim Schmidt

I should know this but anyway, um, yeah

John Mino

And then what do they do then after the game do they take him to the Brown County or ever?

Okay

But they don't because I think it's the next day they get habeas corpus, but somebody works for our government That was pretty funny.

I know um But there I think it's Philadelphia They'll actually like do the trial right there.

Yeah, they got video cameras, right?

Yeah.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah, I don't know that we're set up that I don't know it's probably changed to in the last five years

John Mino

So when they say arrests, you know 12 arrests of the Packer game

Okay, are they normally hours for a drunk and getting in a fight or?

Like

Jim Schmidt

do you will be kick a lot of people out for six in the bathroom?

Shut up.

Where'd it go Johnny?

I get those reports and they're just they don't they don't get arrested They just get ejected because you look at 12 arrests.

There's well how many injections 35

John Mino

So is it guys and women's restrooms or women and guys rest?

Wow that shocks me Wow, yeah,

Jim Schmidt

so

John Mino

Wow!

What else have I not done that you've done?

What'd you do with the Packer game?

Announcer

Geez!

John Mino

How do you live that one down?

Yeah.

Announcer

I got some really cool news I wanted to pass along.

Okay, let's do that.

You know, we've got the Civic Media app, right?

Yeah.

And you choose WISS or WGBW, and you can always text the studio that way.

Yeah.

You can now send a voice note.

Oh, really?

So you can actually speak to us through our app, and it comes to the studio, and it sounds a little something like this.

Uh-oh.

Good morning, Mino and the mayor.

This is your producer sending a voice note from the app.

So now not only can you text the studio, but you can send us a little voice note and we can play it on the air.

Somebody do it.

Do

John Mino

it.

We'll get a prize package for the first one.

Announcer

I will listen to it.

Of course I will.

Oh, yeah.

John Mino

Well, I

Jim Schmidt

just 35

John Mino

years.

I

Jim Schmidt

know I was right.

John Mino

Jim, this is Bob from Ashwabana.

I voted for you every year.

Let me tell you, even when I moved to O'Connell Falls to my cabin, I still voted for you.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah.

Why'd you tear them all down?

What

John Mino

the hell am I?

I don't have an orange Julius anymore.

That's right.

SPEAKER_??

Boom!

Todd (host)

Hey welcome back!

Everybody mind the mirror on a Wednesday morning.

I mean it is getting brighter out.

Still windy and it's still a little rainy, but once again the There's no chance that would shut it down, right?

Farmer's market first one for the night here in Broadway and Green Bay.

I don't

John (host)

think so percent chance of rain This morning and it tapers off to 35% no they won't

Todd (host)

okay.

All right.

I'm gonna walk over there gets

John (host)

up Oh, yeah, me

Todd (host)

too.

John (host)

I

Todd (host)

think get one of those big hot dogs

Those things are fantastic.

John (host)

Was that one of those 10 things, Todd?

No, I didn't think so.

I didn't see it.

I forgot what you said.

I didn't write it down.

Todd (host)

Or a friend.

Yeah.

It's a shut-in, and he likes having a little something.

John (host)

And watching Netflix.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think I know that friend.

Todd (host)

Yeah.

I'm going to bring that to him.

OK.

I am.

So nobody's helped me out on that Scotch that I got to buy for my

John (host)

bike.

Just get them Chevis Regal.

It's a good name.

It's not that expensive.

Todd (host)

Is that better than Johnny Walker?

John (host)

Black is, well, hmm.

Shavasrigal is cool because it's got the silver to it.

It looks kind of fancy.

It comes in a nice box.

Okay.

Todd (host)

Once again, the name that I got was L-A-P-H-R-O-A-I-G.

No.

You've never heard

John (host)

of that.

And

Todd (host)

here, Scott used to be a Scotch guy,

John (host)

right?

Used to.

Todd (host)

So, Shavas, would you do this way to go?

John (host)

Shavas.

Todd (host)

Shavas?

John (host)

Shavasrigal.

Todd (host)

Can't get wrong with that.

Can't go wrong

John (host)

with that.

No, they'll like it.

They'll like it.

It looks good.

What

Todd (host)

about that Johnny Walker blue?

John (host)

I don't think it's blue.

It's black.

I mean

Todd (host)

No, I think there's a blue isn't there

John (host)

really

Todd (host)

really expensive like a couple hundred bucks a bottle

John (host)

No, no, I

Todd (host)

think it's Johnny Walker blue.

John (host)

Hmm.

I haven't had that.

All right That I remember

Todd (host)

well, you haven't been in that world

John (host)

for a while.

I've been I've been a good boy So

Todd (host)

and you know, I the guy even said hey, we'll have some scotch killer.

I'm like, hmm How about if I just bring some polish,

John (host)

right?

I went to

Todd (host)

like there's nothing I could

taste that tastes less good to me than two thing.

Okay, three things.

Three things.

John (host)

Well, I like, don't say Scotch, it doesn't taste good.

Todd (host)

It tastes great.

Scotch, gin, and warm vodka.

If there's anything as much as I like good vodka and ice cold vodka, is there anything worse than cold, I mean, excuse me, warm vodka?

John (host)

I don't know if I've ever had, why would you have warm vodka?

Todd (host)

Cause if you didn't, if you don't have ice cubes and you don't have it in the freezer

John (host)

and you, and you really need

Todd (host)

it.

John (host)

Yeah.

Todd (host)

And you're halfway home from the liquor store.

John (host)

Okay.

Wow.

All right.

No, I have never had warm vodka.

Yeah.

Well,

Todd (host)

I'm, you know, I'm saying that.

John (host)

Why?

Todd (host)

Cause my liquor store is right next door.

John (host)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I do want to say about the Scotch.

So I went to, you know, I raised a little money once.

So I went to a guy's house and it was, I don't know, three in the afternoon.

like 100 year old stuff, Irish guy.

And because it was a special occasion.

Scotch or whiskey?

Scotch.

Okay.

And I had some.

And it was like, wow, it was good, but you don't take, doesn't take much of that stuff too.

Oh, I believe that.

Anyway, last time I had it.

But

Todd (host)

now it's okay.

Do you, do people mix?

I mean, I hear Scotch

John (host)

and sodas.

No, no, that's no, no.

Okay.

Just on the rocks.

That's it.

That's it.

I don't.

Let's have the callers call in.

Look at this.

Look at this.

Johnny

Todd (host)

Walker blue.

Wow.

$239 to $299.

That's why.

Tammy.

Wow.

See what I mean?

John (host)

Yeah.

Todd (host)

So, all right, so there's red, black.

What is the blue?

John (host)

I

Todd (host)

mean,

John (host)

like

Todd (host)

just

John (host)

aged, I suppose.

Todd (host)

It looks like aquavelva.

Remember the, what was it?

AC blue aquavelva?

It's

John (host)

got that kind of a look.

Yeah,

Todd (host)

it does.

Okay, look at that hat over there.

Look at that hat.

It's that color.

It's

John (host)

that

Todd (host)

color.

The bottle.

No, the actual scotch.

John (host)

Wow.

Is that?

If it's $29, I wouldn't buy that.

No.

It's just, it's in a blue box with a

Todd (host)

blue label.

John (host)

It's not

Todd (host)

blue.

John (host)

Oh, it's not.

Okay.

Todd (host)

No.

Jeez.

All right.

I thought it was.

John (host)

No other morning show.

It has more disinformation.

Right.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

Maybe

Todd (host)

I'm getting confused.

What's that one blue?

John (host)

It is Aqua Velva.

It's Aqua Velva, John.

That's the blue solution.

Todd (host)

Yeah.

But Caraco, is that the name of that one liquor, liqueur?

Caraco?

C-U-C-A-R-A-C-O.

Caraco.

Caraco.

Yes.

John (host)

And

Todd (host)

that's that color, right?

Yep.

Okay, thank you.

That's what I was thinking.

All right.

John (host)

Wow.

Okay, good.

Todd (host)

It looks,

John (host)

is it sweet?

I

Todd (host)

just wear that stuff.

John (host)

Aquavella.

Aquavella?

Todd (host)

Yeah.

John (host)

Slap it on or whatever.

Todd (host)

To this date.

If you smell like an English leather aqua valve or the one that we use

John (host)

in high

Todd (host)

school,

John (host)

brute, the green one,

Todd (host)

they will bring you back.

John (host)

It's

Todd (host)

amazing time and place, unlike anything.

John (host)

We talk about music, bringing you back, so can certain smells.

And if it's not that brute and old spice, yeah, you're right.

Old spice is another one.

Todd (host)

Absolutely.

That white bottle.

Right.

Absolutely.

John (host)

And everybody wore that.

Todd (host)

Absolutely.

And you never knew how much to put on.

Because after

John (host)

like,

Todd (host)

JV basketball games, we're going to be sitting out in the stands with the,

John (host)

uh, you know, ladies, you

Todd (host)

would just load it on.

And they must have thought, oh my God.

Hey, but

John (host)

there is

Todd (host)

something manly about putting on brute.

Yes.

John (host)

You're just green bottle.

I

Todd (host)

might start buying

John (host)

that again and

Todd (host)

wearing it.

I'm not even kidding.

People

John (host)

don't wear it.

I don't think people wear after shaving anymore.

I

Todd (host)

think it's time to bring it back.

Is it?

I don't think people

John (host)

wear

Todd (host)

that.

What was the use of aftershave?

Was it a cool down?

There's skinners, something?

John (host)

Well, it was a little bit smaller.

It was after shaving, you know, cool it down.

Yeah.

But that stuff was pretty fragrant.

Burn like hell.

But the fragrance, I think.

It's like at home alone, right?

Yeah.

But the fragrance, I think, is what made people keep going back.

OK,

Todd (host)

let's just be honest on something.

Yeah, I did.

Our dads.

Were so much cooler than us True they were after shave knew how to do it.

Just right they had the right stuff for their hair and I was look good shaved with a blade shave with a blade clean shave

John (host)

Shoe's really

Todd (host)

shined.

They know.

John (host)

Oh,

Todd (host)

that was my job though Yeah, I

John (host)

love that

Todd (host)

because my brother showed me how to spit shine when they came home from the army Yep, I asked so badly for a shoe shine kit for Christmas one year

You can't believe it.

John (host)

And you didn't get one?

No.

Really?

I'm trying to see what to buy you one because he's the beneficiary of that.

Todd (host)

Yeah.

I did all my brother's shoes.

Did everybody with the spit shine?

You put the thing in a little can

John (host)

and cotton baton.

Two different, the brown and black.

But what I wanted to do at

Todd (host)

his good friend in school, Joe Durfee and his brothers, Arnold and Joe and Tommy, I think.

They used to shine shoes downtown Nagani.

Oh, yeah.

I want to do that.

So bad.

My dad was like, no way.

You're gonna be a shoe shine

John (host)

now.

Tips are great.

But it's

Todd (host)

like they would have exactly the next day and have all this.

John (host)

Remember Leslie Nielsen, they go to shoe shine.

I do the heart surgery.

Absolutely.

Todd (host)

Absolutely.

It's funny how this show

John (host)

came right back around.

Right.

I'd

Todd (host)

be the shoe shine guy in Caddyshack.

Remember

John (host)

when he made that?

Here's

Todd (host)

your.

Thanks, everybody, back in the bar bar.

See ya.

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