Headlines With The Press Times (Hour 3)

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John Minow and Jim Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

Thanks to all our special guests today, cheese curd Nick.

He'll be at the farmer's market on Broadway for eight, three o'clock.

He'll be set up with his unbelievable fried cheese curds and his, um, Coney Island hot dogs and his brats and his hamburgers and in the whole thing.

And it's all without carbs or calories because like I said, he eats that on a daily basis and he's lost 47 pounds.

So

half of that is true.

He did lose 47 pounds.

But

might not have eaten his

own shit.

I don't think he did.

But

I don't even ask him.

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They are fantastic in Oshkosh and in, um, um, Maron.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I thought I'd see what you're saying.

Sorry.

Ben and Deanna Malkor, they're just not fun.

No, they're just not.

If you want a good time, if you want people, you know, no, not at all.

Just

two-cut and stay

away.

Yeah.

Man, are they fun.

Then Mike, how a hand, general manager headlines with a press times for a weekly segment.

How you doing, Mike?

It's good to see you again.

Yeah, it's good to be back.

Thanks.

Yes, been allowed.

Do they

just not want this Kramer say you're not allowed to come?

Or was

that where does

Chris do something?

I think that, uh, I think with Tori and Janelle here, I think that was working well.

Yeah.

He dominated.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Well, we're firing the mayor today, so maybe we'll get them in.

I was thinking, I do, I, I'm the only one here on

Broadway.

That's where you're located.

You must be excited about a little more energy coming back there with the farmers market.

That's pretty happening place for your employees and to work and

live.

Yeah.

It's incredible.

Uh, I grew up in Green Bay.

So I knew what Broadway was 40, 50 years ago and what did you hang out there?

I don't want to in college.

I don't wear your leather.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

But what Brian and the on Broadway crew have done with on Broadway is unbelievable.

It looks like a Hallmark Channel in the winter when they do the Chris Kindle Market.

Oh, and like I said, it reminds me

of those little side corner kind of little things in New York City.

Exactly.

But yeah, but they got to get the semis off that road.

That's very, very distracting too.

Window shoppers, you know, it's just and I think they're working.

They got some ideas I'd like to see that happen But that is the renovation and wasn't without an investment either, but it's I think it's paying dividends

Yeah, and then when the public market, I mean they're expecting I believe I think I was talking to Brooke or Marion a million people.

Yeah, I just want to say They throw it back on that number.

That's more than that's more than the Packers get

Somebody had told me Cabela's gets like 750,000 visitors a year.

I believe that.

Oh

yeah, that's the

museum.

748,000

of them

are from the UP when they come down on a weekend.

Go through their parking lot on

a weekend, see how many

Michigan plates.

And a few hundred thousand just go there to look at everything.

That's a little museum with all those animals and stuff.

But no, that's gonna be great.

I think the farmers market is gonna work.

Couple things they gotta work on.

Well, how are you doing?

Your paper.

Paper

of the Year?

Well not paper, close actually.

Wisconsin Newspaper Association, every year all the paid newspapers that belong to, well all paid newspapers belong to the Wisconsin Newspaper Association and every year in Madison they have an awards banquet and we were this close to becoming winning the paper of the year.

Wow.

But no, last night we were

this close to becoming

show of the year.

I

can't get my arms any

wider here.

But yeah, we were at the Green Bay City Council.

I was there last night and we were voted in as the official newspaper of the city of Green Bay.

So they're going to use your paper for public notices for everything because we have to, the city, every municipality has to.

publish things and yes, and they picked your paper over the other guy.

Yes.

Well, congratulations to that.

That's a good revenue source for you.

And what that means is more people get their information, I think, because the council voted on it, right?

Yes.

They represent the city.

So

good for you.

That's

a nice job at finding

a

spotlight personality, kind of offbeat sort of stories.

I like that.

Yeah, I think I attribute that a lot to Chris Leonard, who just is a history buff.

Yeah.

Somebody that just truly cares about the community and she comes up with a lot of that.

That's

cool.

I like that a lot.

Let me ask are you thinking of more frequent publishing or where are you gonna go with this you I think a lot of people when you start over like that's not gonna work You know because you were in existence at one time and kind of the Chronicle was and then not now it's back and I obviously very strong if you're voted the newspaper of the community Plans yeah, well

You don't have to tell

I'll tell you what I feel is the future newspapers because I think what you're asking is will we publish a printed product more than one day a week and We feel that the future of newspapers is once a week in print on the weekends You get in your mailbox where you can sit on your back deck in the morning with a coffee or in the evening with a beer and Read the

or like John the morning with the beer, but

okay.

Yeah, it's five o'clock somewhere

But then daily online, um, where, uh, you got a high school girl softball game on a Tuesday night.

We don't wait for our paper.

Uh, we put it online as fast as possible, either Tuesday night or Wednesday morning.

You guys do a great job covering local amateur sports.

Yeah.

That's, I mean, we're the official paper of all the school districts as well.

And that was one of the things when we bought the paper from Mike Avenger, because it was originally the, uh, ash, wobbon and press that Lois started.

And then Mike took it over when she passed away and,

When he passed away long story short, we ended up buying it with the intentions of moving into Brown County because there really wasn't a lot of local high school sports coverage and and those student athletes need that.

I mean, you guys had a great article on the, was it Bayport and Notre Dame, Girls Lacrosse

thing.

You know what I mean?

It's like, that's cool.

That

needs to be covered.

Girls Lacrosse is

being covered, but that's cool.

Yeah, nobody's coming.

And here's the thing too.

The other thing is people

read news differently than they did 40 years ago.

I mean, there's still people that love to get it in the paper form in their mailbox, but other people want to read it online or on the Facebook feed, but other people want to see it in videos.

So that La Crosse game that you mentioned, we actually had one of our interns there, a high school intern, a gentleman named Grayson that's doing tremendous from Bayport.

He went to it and not only wrote a story, took some photos for a photo gallery, but then he did a video interview.

of two of their athletes that we put on our website, on Facebook, and on TikTok.

And on TikTok alone, one of those video interviews of the girl, one of the girls got over 17,000 views in a few days.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

My time.

Time.

Are we on TikTok?

What's that?

Are we on TikTok?

We are not.

Okay.

But isn't it?

Because I don't want to see you guys dance.

Yeah, that's the big

thing.

Understood.

Mike, I've never danced in public.

I'm not about to now.

I'm right there with you.

Thank you

Talk about the the price of your paper still I think I don't know you gotta be raising the price sooner later

59 a year.

Yeah, I mean I get three newspapers and yours is not only the best It's the least expensive which it's great

Yeah, at this point, we're $59 a year.

Unfortunately, the cost of newsprint keeps going up, and the US mail keeps going up.

We're getting hit again with another increase from the US mail.

But we want to be careful with that.

But compared to other print publications, we're very inexpensive.

I just got to say, I'm not sure what the price of ink at a printer shop is these days.

I just bought

my own home printer.

OK.

And already after two days cartridge low and they check the price.

It's like 60 bucks Yeah, it's like what's

yeah,

I don't think is so expensive.

Yeah that It's nice to get it delivered, right?

I mean we like that and you probably can't get your own delivery person like some other people but That's not gonna slow down that the post office because they've raised their prices and Lord their quality of service five days now, right?

Johnny did you get a letter from Matt walk to Green Bay your wife sent that or it it was crazy and it's like

The service used to be better and cheaper now, but whatever.

It's a government entity.

It was from Princeton, Wisconsin to Manitowoc.

It took seven days.

We have a paper

up in...

It was a Manila folder, so maybe that was, you know, heavier than, like, whatever.

But,

yeah.

We have a paper up in Marinette County called The Pestigo Times, which is just like The Press Times.

It's all local news, local high school sports.

We're the only ones up in Marinette County covering Crivets, Wasaki, Gillette, Surin.

And that paper...

My parents grew up in Marinette, so when we had the opportunity to buy it.

I picked that up at the gas station in Marinette every time I'm

driving to the

UP.

You know exactly where I mean

it.

And when we bought that paper, it had over 8,000 subscribers, which is one of the largest paid subscriber papers in the state.

And I'm going to the US Post Office on this.

And what was happening is our office was good.

When we bought it, it was getting inundated with calls, with paper, people not getting their paper.

Sometimes two weeks late, sometimes five days late.

And what we discovered was the papers were getting delivered from our printer out of Chano to the Pestigo Post Office.

Now, I also want to say the people that work at the local post offices are great people.

They're great people.

They do everything they can to help you.

It's not

them.

Right.

But what happened is the papers getting delivered to the Pestigo Post Office, all 8,000, and then the Pestigo Post Office was taking their papers, sorting them, and they're getting them out in the mail the next day.

And then, uh, we personally delivered them to the Cribbets and Marinette post offices in Menominee, and those got out the next day.

But then all these people that lived in Gillett, Surin, Wasaki, they, they were getting the paper a week, two weeks late.

And we discovered what was happening is the papers that got delivered to the Pestigo Post Office got delivered back to the Green Bay Post Office.

And then Green Bay was shorthanded employees, so they were getting sent to Milwaukee.

And sometimes getting lost so now what we've done and it was the suggestion actually of the postmaster in in Pestigo who's tremendous We're delivering personally to each little post office site site and now that's eliminated the

wow Yeah

worth

my cool hand

Did you probably pronounce it, Mike?

Hollahan.

Hollahan.

I had no worries.

I had a father, Hollahan, one time.

And that's, you're not related to any priests, are you?

No, I'm Catholic,

but.

It's

pronounced the

same way.

With the headlines of the press times.

Everybody is

nice.

And we

got a thing called Pass It Forward, Intern Program.

We're also going to be talking

about it.

Sure.

Let's get to the intern program.

I think that is critical for students.

We have one right here.

Yeah, the internship program has been mind-blowing in my other life and Chris Leonard and her other life We'd like to show Fantasy Island.

We'd be teachers and high school teachers and In the we all know the state of the the news industry newspapers TV

across the board, it's in a state of flux.

And there's a shortage of local news coverage, and there's a shortage of students getting into journalism.

And newspapers are shutting down nationwide, and in addition to that, when they need to find employees, they're having a hard time finding employees.

And in general, the newspaper industry is old.

The people that are working in it are old.

We kind of Mr. Magood into this.

It wasn't our brainchild, but Microsoft a few years ago, four years ago reached out to us and other entities and said, hey, would you like to be involved with a grant that we're doing with local journalism?

And we said, absolutely yes.

And so we got involved in it.

In long story short, we tied him with UW Green Bay.

The Dean of Humanities, Charles Ryback, took the money that he got from Microsoft and invested it into his students so they could have a paid internship.

at the press times, and it was six students a semester.

In that first semester, two of those students, our sports editor, Tori Wittenbrock, and our city pages editor, Janelle Fisher, were a part of that internship program.

And what we saw, excuse me, was that you get the best and brightest, because we interview the interns, and we select the ones that we want to bring in.

All of them come in and we create a great atmosphere in our office intentionally and they all love the whole internship program and we see when they came in versus the end of the semester under the tutelage of Chris Leonard or Tori, our sports editor, Jeneller.

how to cover the news, how

to

write the news.

You don't go to the left, you don't go to the right, you write right down the middle.

And by the end of the semester, there's seasoned veterans covering school boards, city council.

And so we knew the Microsoft money was gonna run out after they said three years, they ended up going four.

It was tremendous.

But we reached out to the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Popkey and Nicollet National Bank and asked if they wanted to get behind it.

They've increased their backing the last few years, each year with it, which we can get

into

a little

bit.

And we'll talk about one other thing you mentioned.

When I was going into college, journalism was literally the most popular major, because during Watergate, where everybody wanted to be an investigative reporter.

But a lot of schools have dropped their journalism programs.

It's bizarre.

Can't wait to be back with more.

Mike Holhand, general manager, headlines of the press times.

Back after this.

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really enjoyable.

Mike Hollahan, General Manager, Headlines of the Press Times, a Pass It Forward intern program.

Both talk about our experiences with kids or ourselves with the world of journalism itself.

But Mike, another, Jim brought up something right before we put the headphones back on.

You get the journalism degree and I'll tell you what, doesn't matter what the paper industry is, man, are there about a million different offshoots you can do with that once you have that degree, isn't there?

Yeah, absolutely.

Like, I mean, Jim, talk about what your daughter

did.

She got a journalism degree and she met with a lot of journalists.

One of them was, ah, don't do it.

There's no money in it.

And I'm like, oh, I don't know about that.

Don't worry about the money.

We'll figure that out later.

Went from Nashville to New York now assistant publisher and it's just led to some great things and John was talking about his start to journalism led to TV and you know I just think it's not like you're gonna write news.

There's nothing wrong with writing newspaper your whole the rest of your life I mean like he said there's Watergate some of that stuff was very cool to be the you know investigative reporter But I think journalism is a very rewarding career doesn't start real high pay But I don't think that should be the focus right

agreed agreed and and again back to that internship program

with the Packers Giveback and the Nicollet National Bank, they've been involved now for a few years.

We're now up to nine students per semester between St.

Norbert and GW Green Bay and then NWTC, where John came through.

And it's unbelievable.

It's been a game changer for us in the aspect that, again, you look across the whole United States and papers are failing, papers that are there are older people.

And in our thought process is moving forward with these interns, they're teaching us things as well.

Because here's the thing is the future of journalism, it's so important what we're doing right now because it's all in flux, but in flux is opportunity.

And the future of journalism

isn't what it was 10 years ago 20 years ago not you know you're still gonna do your serious stories because that needs to be done you're still gonna cover city council and school board because that needs to be done but in addition to that we got to start understanding this younger generation doesn't want to read the paper like our generation did so we're

heavily involved in multimedia, one of our former interns, Katie Koizman.

She now is the head digital editor for our papers where we're doing a lot of video.

And one of the things that we noticed is these high school sports videos where we'll just put a Bluetooth.

microphone on the athlete and do a video interview with your iPhone or Google pixel and put it up online.

Some of these videos, Tori Wittenbrock did one of the packer game that got over 865,000 views on Tik Toks alone.

And so it's, it's... Todd, are we on Tik Tok yet?

Yeah, just, man.

We will be by this afternoon.

That's right.

But it's tough.

None of us will be working here anymore.

And we are.

Nikolay National Bank sponsors all the high school stuff, but they...

It's telling us people want to consume news video.

So we do a lot of news video as well.

And John does a lot of it for us.

And he is incredible at it.

I mean, it's high production stuff by a one man band because John is incredible.

And John is the future of what a journalist needs to be.

John goes to a ribbon cutting, takes photos.

In addition to that, we'll do a video.

And in addition to that, we'll write 300-word story.

And back in the day, the way it worked with journalists is they had a reporter go to it and a separate photographer.

Well, you can't afford to do that anymore.

So you need to be multimedia.

But the other thing I'm saying is, as a newspaper now, we're looking at this summer, Tori's sister.

Bri is a junior at Tennessee and she did an internship with us last year on the marketing side.

She has a personality that's incredible We're gonna start doing edutainment videos where we're gonna We're gonna tell a story.

We're not gonna go left or right.

We're gonna Give people information, but Tori's gonna do it with video that's gonna be entertaining as well And my guess is that's gonna take off like crazy That's

fantastic.

So in the morning I get

I buy, obviously by your paper, by your competitor's paper, and a couple other ones that are paper that I read, but then I get three of them online.

And online, I wonder if you're gonna do this.

They have the story, and like Biden's whole prostate cancer, that's a long story, that's a long article, and you can hit where they just, it's read by a computer.

Yeah, I get the New York Times and you can do that on there.

You can just say have the story read to you.

Which I love if you're driving, you know, obviously.

How

do you get a

job being the person that reads?

No, it's a

computer.

It's

probably AI generated.

No, they

say that before that.

This is gonna be, but if you're cooking or something, right?

And you still wanna hear the story.

Is that something your paper's considering?

That's a, I mean...

That's a really good idea, Jim.

I mean, we do podcasts, but maybe we need to start doing that as well.

That's not a bad idea.

Correct me if

I'm wrong, Michael.

And again, I'm a huge fan of print journalism, always have been.

I miss the old days, but was the journalism, whatever you want to call it, industry, were they a little slow in foreseeing the future, that the whole process of the paper and the printing and yada, yada, yada?

was maybe getting a little, that model was little losing its luster, was the news print business a little slow to adapt?

I would say, you know, everybody was in the whirlpool for a while there when the internet came out and nobody really knew what to do.

I mean, for a lot of things, if I would have looked back and said, hey, I should buy up some domain names and you can take a lot of money on that, you know?

But I think people are starting to learn it now.

And I think, you know, the future, we got to go to where the people are and

what

they want.

And that's what we're trying to do here.

And I personally think, you know, it's like Russell Wilson, why not us?

Why not us here in Green Bay?

Our owner, Pat Wood, has talked at National Newspaper Conferences about this internship program.

I think it's something that

is a model for all newspapers to turn things around because you're draining the swamp, you're bringing in young journalists, and you're bringing in young journalists that have ideas of how their generation wants to receive the news.

But I don't think the print edition's ever gonna go away.

Once a week in print.

Awesome, awesome.

Mike, keep doing what you're doing, man.

Sure, enjoy it.

Enjoy working with you guys.

We do.

Check them out, ladies, gentlemen.

Press times.

Headlines are the press times.

Mike Hollahan, thanks very much for being here, buddy.

Well, thanks for having

me, guys.

Quick break!

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Hey, welcome back.

My name is Amir here.

Special thanks, Mike Hollen.

General manager headlines for the press times.

Ben and Deanna Malkor moving with the Malkors.

Check them out, folks.

They've got some beautiful places listed right now that just sound fantastic.

Jessica, by the way, those ones at Northbrook still fascinate me.

That's a great

place

to have

them.

I'd

like to see one of those that just go across for their Friday night buffets.

And golf.

And golf.

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That was gonna say, looks like it's cleared up out there, but it's not.

It just got brighter, got a little bit brighter, but it's, that is still, look it, when you see the leaves turn that way from where we're sitting and we're facing south and all the leaves are turned, you know, it's right coming right from the north and from the bay.

One more little shout out to Mike Holland, the fact that he's all in on that industry, not just his paper.

Like he's talking about getting a bench and getting interns and where it's going to go in the future.

And I just was really impressed with him today.

I'm so glad he was awarded the newspaper.

Yeah.

No, that's fantastic.

Yeah.

Great guess once again.

No, Terry Barton.

No, sir.

All

right, Terry.

Sleep it in.

Hung over again or was it anything in general?

Phone.

Yeah.

Was that what she's

going

with?

Although.

Well.

This

is a good time to complain about phones because I just try to call my mom and do

some people have regular service because I know people were saying cell-com to cell-com might work if you do this and then you know,

but is they say

spin

around with it?

I thought they said voice was working

not for me and I know I've called I've tried calling some cell-com numbers.

I just what are you Todd?

Verizon Verizon okay

intern boy.

What are you?

I Got cell-com too.

All right

Try to call me.

Do you have my number?

Seriously, because you never know, maybe it did pop up.

Because did some people get- Do some people have it so they can call anywhere?

Yes.

I actually- Ryan.

Your phone does work, because you- Didn't you call me on your cell phone?

No, he tried calling me on my- He's gonna try and call you right now, Jim.

Okay.

He tried to call me this morning and...

No, go.

Oh!

Yeah, see that works, Ryan.

Did it work?

Try mine.

Do you have my number?

I don't think he

does.

Good.

Don't call me.

I'll

give it to him right now.

Isn't that weird that some sell-to-sell works and others don't?

Because, like I said, I just tried to make a call and I yesterday was chasing down Andre because I needed something from him.

He's on cell comment.

We just ended up texting.

It's just like, that's frustrating though after three, four days.

Well,

I know I'm waiting for some calls.

And I wanted to set up some stuff, and all my guys that I'm dealing with are like 75 years old, so they're having textures.

That phone ringing is everything to connect.

And for this, for seven days or whatever I haven't been able to, I've got a couple of events coming up, and I'm sure the people are trying to get a hold of me.

Yeah.

It's going to be interesting.

Oh, it's coming through.

OK.

All

right, so you can go sell, come, sell, come.

OK.

Well, no, I just tried it, and it didn't work.

No, but Ryan was calling in.

No, that was Ryan.

I just tried to call my mom.

Oh.

Oh, and she's got sell, come?

Yep.

Hmm.

Oh, she might have you block.

Yeah.

Too much spice.

I chicken.

Show me.

No,

I. No, I. I told the Melchors out there as well.

Thanks a lot about the artificial weeds.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it doesn't bring back memories of my mom, one of her last things.

But Trisha put Johnny brought those flowers.

They're fake.

They're out of put them in a drawer, throw them away or something.

Yeah.

Josephine.

No, I used.

Jesse's phone.

So yeah, that's what that's going to be interesting to follow that because what's going to be interesting.

I don't understand

if it ever comes out exactly who or what

did that?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyway, that it's amazing, though, how much you kind of rely on that.

It's like when it's gone, it's like, holy mackerel.

OK, is it OK?

But I still have a landline.

I'm old fashioned.

OK, I don't.

OK, this could sound real naive of me.

But it is Selcombe National or they just Wisconsin ish.

Well,

no, no, you my kids have it.

And OK.

So you can get it.

But they don't have offices in New York and California.

Well, that's what I mean.

You know, I think the people the

rest of the country isn't affected by this, huh?

Not sure.

Well, their phones in other parts of the country are affected by this.

Right.

But your daughters are affected.

Oh, yeah.

That's why we they had to get new way to get them off the plan anyway.

This

is a great opportunity.

It's like, you know, I mean, come on, after a while.

Right.

Were you guys still paying for

him?

Wow.

Some stuff, you know, you kind of

wind that down when they, you know, this and that.

Once

they start making

more than mom

and dad.

I know,

right?

And they all do.

Well, then it's time for them to pay for mom and dad.

I just want to

say in their defense, they've never, well, I shouldn't say it.

I don't, we just, it's always been that way.

So we

just, we talked to them this week and said, look, you guys, maybe this is a good time to get your own service.

They weren't like, oh my God,

I

really need this.

They're like, okay, I don't think they have an idea how much it costs.

But anyway, I think that's it.

auto insurance, we kept on ours, but that's gone.

I don't know, I think that's pretty much it.

Do you just pay for anything

if you're doing it?

Smart kids though.

I don't think so.

Smart kids.

Because if you don't talk about it, you just kind of keep

taking the service again.

Yeah,

absolutely.

No, as long as the rent is not on our bill.

But yeah, you're right, John.

They make more than I do.

And God bless them for that.

So this was a good time to break it.

We just never talked about it.

It's not that much either.

I would know anyway.

So what's going on?

Well, do I just want to ask one more thing?

Do you think it'll ever come out exactly who or what or how?

Or do you think that's almost like one of those classified type things?

No, I think people are going to dig pretty deep.

I would think so,

too.

It's it's not like a couple hours.

Yeah.

It's a week.

But I mean, the scary part with this that's going on out there with these kind of things is if they can if they can hack into something as big as Selcom, who's to say they can hack into

a financial thing, a transportation thing.

I mean, it's- It is.

And, you know, maybe they use this as a test model.

Cellcom, I don't know how many subscribers they have.

And it worked.

Maybe Next is a bigger company.

You know, it's like, this is the

model that worked.

This is how we did it.

We hacked this, did that.

But I worry about everything being online, this banking.

That scares me.

That's why I still keep a little bit under the mattress.

He's just a little bit.

You just never know.

Under the mattress, under the bed,

under the mattress in the spare room, under Milton's couch, under the

cushions.

I sometimes worry

about that.

In the

shoebox.

It's

like one of those mafia things when I hear the cops are coming.

They're in the

freezer,

taking out the veal,

which is actually $100

bills.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe.

Have you, speaking of just current news, that's very current, but.

Do you follow that, uh, New Orleans prison break?

Yeah.

I mean, wow,

that.

Okay.

Some

people are going to prison now where they will be

the

maintenance guy.

What?

Okay.

Did you see his background?

And we

don't

know.

Okay.

I don't look, I'm not, you know, everyone, there's a second chance, but in a prison.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's kind of a record.

Yeah.

But did you see how they caught one of the guys?

I mean, this is almost scary from like, you know, the old ones that 1984 big brother's watching.

Yeah, yeah.

He was walking down Bourbon Street.

I saw that.

That

just looks like

a typical guy, baseball cap, hoodie, just strolling

very casually and boom, picked him up.

There he is.

Yeah, that that's weird.

And you walk down there quite a bit.

And I didn't know that they were.

I didn't either.

Had facial recognition.

He would have blended in on any street in any city,

but okay But for them to recognize your face they have to have a picture of your face and they don't have ours

Well, you're

out there.

I

thought they got that when you were like fingerprinted and stuff No

pictures are on your

pictures

They'll use whatever they can use.

Oh, I thought you had like Give permission or something.

Do they have those that okay?

What do they have?

at like gas stations because criminals get caught a lot of times coming out of gas stations.

It's like, do they read license plates?

Are there?

I don't know.

Yeah.

Well, having worked in that industry for a little bit, you know, there's cameras everywhere.

Okay.

Absolutely.

Yep.

Do the gas stations themselves put those kinds of things up?

Or is

that the local law enforcement?

No, gas stations are in charge of that.

I tell you, in Green Bay, we have a lot of cameras.

We have more than you think, because they were grants.

That's good to know.

Well, they were grants that you get.

Yeah, I know.

And it's like,

OK, we'll accept it.

OK.

Are some of those right up on top, above the things?

Yeah.

OK.

Jim's down in his basement, like tonight.

And he's got the big wall, this TV screen.

And he's just clicking around, sitting around.

Oh, man.

Have you ever been in the Packers security room?

Yes.

That's pretty cool.

That's very cool.

That's a lot of screens and they can zoom in on stuff.

I told you that

one time I got a text at a Packer game.

It's like,

put

it down.

Like, yeah,

what?

Put it down.

Like, oh my God, I got, I don't know what's going on.

I said, Michael, this is so a cop.

That's your third brat and your fourth beer.

Yeah.

Put them down.

They're like,

where are you?

Who are

you?

Yeah, maybe we should hire him for our diets.

Put down that cookie.

I always gave tours when I had guests come in for the games and I always went to the security room and then, I don't know if you know that type, but right down in the, where the players are, it's a little bit further than where the players locker room is, but there's two jail cells too.

Yeah, I've never seen those.

And I'm like, do you guys, who goes, there's two of them.

Is it male and female or is it the Packers and the opponent?

But he goes no it's male-female.

So can you imagine putting right next to each other in the same cell?

It's so if you're

is there a what is there?

How do I say it toilet facilities?

It was a pretty small cells.

I don't I think there's one I'm just obviously one in that area I don't know but what I thought I really thought that was interesting know that they they were separated by Male-female not because if you put a guy in there from the Bears anything yeah, I don't think they would end well but

Anyway, they know what they're doing over there, but yeah, we put them right down in there and then after the game they Take them over to

I've heard not to get into this subject too much.

I'll work you get Joe Virgen I've heard that when you're being held, okay That the other like let's say they got in some places.

They got the one little Facility so to speak in like the corner of the cell.

Okay, and

we have

okay

But I, I, okay, I would, my kidneys would explode because I would hold everything until I was more private.

Everything.

Oh, I, I would die from, I get what's called septic because I would hold it for a week and a half.

But what I've heard is that other prisoners or whatever are very respectful about that and will like turn their backs and stuff.

So.

Okay.

I don't, I don't remember that being a topic of discussion.

Maybe there's another bathroom in there that they take them to.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering.

Yeah, I think there would

be.

I should know this.

But anyway, um, yeah.

So,

and then what do they do?

Then after the game do they take him to the Brown County or whatever?

Okay.

And then because I think it's the next day they get habeas corpus, but somebody works for our government.

That was pretty funny.

I know.

Um, but they're, I think it's Philadelphia.

They'll actually like do the trial right

there.

They got video cameras right?

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know that we're set up that.

I don't know.

It's probably changed to in the last five years.

So when they say arrests, you know, 12 arrests of the Packer game.

Okay.

Are they normally hours for a drunk and getting in a fight or like?

Do you know what we kick a lot of people out for?

Sex in the bathroom.

Shut up.

Where'd it go, Johnny?

I get those reports and they're just they don't get arrested.

They just get ejected because you look at 12 arrests.

There's how many ejections?

35.

So is it guys and women's

restrooms or women and guys?

Wow that shocks me Wow, yeah,

so

Wow

Would you do the packer

game?

Yeah, how do you live that one down?

Yeah,

I got really cool news.

I wanted to pass.

Let's do that We've got the civic media app, right?

Yeah, you choose WIS or WGBW and you can always text the studio that way.

Yeah, you can now send

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So you can actually speak to us through our app and it comes to the studio and it sounds a little something like this.

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This is your producer sending a voice note from the app.

Oh, yeah.

Well, I just 35 years.

I know I was right.

Jim, this is Bob from Ashwabana.

I voted for you every year.

Let me tell you, even

when I

moved to O'Connell Falls

to my cabin, I still voted for you.

Yeah.

Why'd you tear them all down?

What the hell am I?

I don't have an orange

Julius anymore.

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