Road Rage, Blender Battles, and Oshkosh Mornings (Hour 1)

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Road Rage, Blender Battles, and Oshkosh Mornings (Hour 1)

Maino and the Mayor · Thu May 8, 2025

John Mino

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

Todd

And

Jim Schmidt

here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Todd, it's never good when Jim and I are looking at each other and making motions and pantomizing what to do dealing with equipment.

Pointing to our ears.

So

Todd

just so you guys know when

Jim Schmidt

we're

Todd

on location, our noise or our sound from the audio from the studio has to drop before we go live.

So

Jim Schmidt

that's why I went.

Oh, I thought he was.

No, no, no.

OK.

John Mino

All right, anyway, so we can.

Tell everyone where we are.

This is good morning.

Look

Jim Schmidt

at that beautiful sun coming up over the water right behind us.

Great.

Isn't that I just wish there were some warmth in it.

I know.

But it's cold.

It's a little chilly out here.

We're in Oshkosh.

We love being in Oshkosh.

You know, just driving into the looking for a gas station by my my monster.

I don't want you guys to judge me for drinking.

I got to tell you that.

You know what?

I could hang out if they had a quick trip at five twenty seven in the morning.

Okay,

John Mino

with all the trades people.

It's all yellow.

Totally completely.

That's great though.

They're getting hot dogs.

Yeah.

Yeah, they load up.

That's, that's

Jim Schmidt

always fun.

I don't know or something about that.

I just, I really like, but, but the thing is, I was saying how I love this.

I should share you so much when coming in.

Through this street and that well whatever whatever 6th Street and although over there Oregon Street and coming right down the two blocks from here Just beautiful greenery right on the water and it's got up there.

You know built 1883 and the next one next what 1889

And this one right next to us, a fire station when I bet they used horses.

Todd

Absolutely.

Jim Schmidt

You know what I mean?

Oh, yeah.

We're right.

And didn't you say, Todd, this is where Oshkosh started?

Todd

I mean, pretty much right by the fire station there, right?

Back when it was Athens, it was right on the river and all that kind of stuff.

Did you actually close that?

Yeah.

Is it bothering you?

Jim Schmidt

It's kind of burning up the redness.

I won't be the surgeon.

Get this wart right off my face.

But it feels good.

It's nice down here in Oshkosh.

Beautiful, beautiful morning.

Not warm.

38 degrees in Green Bay, 39 in Apton, 41 in Oshkosh, but it is sunshiny and the forecast mid to upper 50s today.

So a little chilly today.

And then after this, pretty much kind of.

John Mino

Oh yeah, this weekend is.

Gradually.

I think we might even hit 80, which is, wow, it's been a while.

Now it's going to be great weekend.

So, hey, I was going to ask you, we took different cars because we have different things to do after this, but.

You know, you think 435 people be nice.

There's a little road rage.

I felt with a guy next to me.

Did you get running?

The traffic was more than I thought.

No, you're good.

Well, yes and no.

Okay.

I just, and that made me think of, did you see that road rage thing where that.

guys driving and that road rage with a motorcycle?

No.

Oh, you got to see this.

Oh, wow.

And they're going back and forth and finally the motorcycle.

As they're driving?

As they're driving, you know, left lane, right lane, right?

And finally the motorcycle just comes right next to this guy, probably, I don't know, two feet and just giving him the finger.

The guy just jerks to the right, knocks the guy off.

Wow.

Yeah, and I think he lived, but boy did he, that guy went flying.

So anyway, that's too much road rage for me.

Boy, but what I'm saying is, okay.

Was it a motorcycle or something?

Jim Schmidt

Yeah, there kind of was type of thing.

You know, knowing I saw it, okay.

But I was talking to the guys yesterday and what guys had lunch with angle and they just told horror stories left and right about They just call it the gauntlet when they come here early in the morning,

John Mino

you know

Jim Schmidt

And it's it's 85 87 miles an hour and it's it's So so I guess I'm used to it in a certain way and you just kind of you know hunkered out and getting the flow

John Mino

what we In Green Bay, you know you walk to work and I drive two minutes to work.

So I was just

It was fine.

I just was like, wow, they're, this is a little aggressive.

I was

Jim Schmidt

wondering,

John Mino

but I played late to it.

Is he

Jim Schmidt

late for work?

That guy who was me.

No,

John Mino

I know.

Cause we had, there's

Jim Schmidt

one guy passed me, blew right past me at whatever.

Then there were two semi.

They was in the three lane area and there were semis in each of the lanes, which is kind of freaky.

Cause I've gotten caught in between them.

So I bet he went a hundred.

They're kind of messing with

John Mino

you a little bit when they both pass you at the same time and you're in the middle.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyway, yes, but I bet he went I bet he well easy 90.

Yeah, he's going.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I did my cruise on an 82.

So I didn't want to get a ticket.

No.

Jim Schmidt

Hey, today is Thursday, May 8th.

It is no socks day.

I like going without socks, but man, my shoes stink then

John Mino

with

Jim Schmidt

sandals.

No, I don't know.

But I mean, to the point where it's like, if you sit in the living room, it's like,

John Mino

what is that?

Jim Schmidt

Then you realize your shoes are like under you and that's what it is.

You ever have that?

No.

Uh,

Todd

no.

I mean, maybe as a child, but

John Mino

then, you know,

Todd

as you grow up,

John Mino

you go, well,

Todd

I'm just not going to do that

John Mino

anymore.

Or you're going to wash your socks or your feet or just not, or wear socks when you have shoes and not wear socks when you have sandals.

So that's, but okay, that's, I

Jim Schmidt

will never, I'll tell you one thing on there.

I'll never wear crocs.

Todd

No.

Jim Schmidt

Oh, I

Todd

see.

I like him just if I'm going to run out to the throw some garbage out or like that I'll throw him on real quick as I go outside.

Kind of like a pair of slippers for outside.

But you have slippers.

I have slippers.

OK,

Jim Schmidt

you think.

OK, I was so excited to wear a bathrobe in New York.

That's right.

Because I hadn't worn a bathrobe

John Mino

since I

Jim Schmidt

was seven.

Do you think I

John Mino

own a pair of slippers, Jim?

Not that.

Like your kids would give them to you for like, you know, something.

But yeah, I got a pack of slippers.

I got I got different kinds of pipe, three, four pairs of slippers.

Um, you have bear for each day of the week.

Who you

Jim Schmidt

ask?

Um, today is ovarian cancer day, very important day.

Ovarian cancer, man, that is affecting other ones affect so many people and they've made great strides with that.

Have a coke day.

All right.

Is, is coke coming out with another new thing that they're really pumping?

It's like something like.

This is like another new break and that's one of those entities.

Why don't you say what's like, what are you doing?

Just

John Mino

let it be.

Yeah, I know.

But I always do want more shelf space.

Is that the energized?

Is that what it is?

I mean, that's there's something like that.

Todd

They have a new orange cream flavor.

OK.

And by the way, I think Khan actually loves that stuff.

Jim Schmidt

He would.

Yeah.

He would.

You would.

Todd

Wow.

Yeah.

So there's

Jim Schmidt

a. So that's

Todd

what

Jim Schmidt

it is.

Todd

There's an orange cream and an orange cream zero, I believe, zero sugar.

All right.

Yeah, he actually got

Jim Schmidt

me some as a

Todd

thank you and it's not bad.

Really?

Yeah, it's not bad.

I don't know that I would go buy it

Jim Schmidt

I'm gonna tell you something that is so good that I could market this I could market this and I'm not lying.

I'm gonna do I'm gonna do next time I'm gonna here's I'm gonna do I'm gonna I'm gonna make a jug of this I'm gonna make a jug and I'm gonna bring into the studio and every guest we have that I'm gonna give them a sample

John Mino

Say hey, what do

Jim Schmidt

you think

John Mino

about this?

Okay?

Jim Schmidt

Okay like that

Do you want me to tell you what's in it?

Sure.

Okay.

Tang.

Okay.

Vanilla flavored protein powder.

Okay.

Avocados.

Little bit of banana.

Okay.

And pistachio seeds.

And it's blended all up and it tastes half between an orange cream sickle and a pistachio bar.

That

John Mino

sounds good.

It's

Jim Schmidt

unbelievable and it's so good for you.

It's mind-boggling I don't think you could I don't think you could put anything in your body.

There'd be better for you than that I'm not even joking about this as you come up with that.

I did it on my own Yeah,

Todd

it's like sitting here with emerald legosi.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah, you know BAM I'm doing this mate, but I gotta buy a new but my bed blender is so gross.

Is there anything worse than cleaning a blender?

I Was clean it every time.

John Mino

Oh, it's that spot.

I bet you don't clean your blender every time

Jim Schmidt

Well, I was going to yesterday.

John Mino

That's why it's

Jim Schmidt

hard to

John Mino

clean.

To the point

Jim Schmidt

where I just took dove laundry soap and just right now it's still soaking because once that stuff gets in there.

That's true.

Oh, is that hard to get

John Mino

out?

But you take it apart

Jim Schmidt

too.

I know, but then you got the blaze.

John Mino

But

Jim Schmidt

what I'm saying is to use it that one time, the effort afterwards

John Mino

to clean.

Don't you have a dishwasher?

Jim Schmidt

Yeah, but I don't think you're supposed to put those in dishwashers.

I think

Todd

you can.

I don't know, I do.

I think you can.

Can you?

Yeah, I think so.

Okay, that'd do it for you.

Jim Schmidt

But you know what I mean?

It's still it's like can't they come up with something that just stays a lot cleaner when you make it or easier to something

John Mino

something what you put in there if you just it's what you put in there that makes it stuff cling to the sides.

I mean, if you just do it with like water and tang, yeah, it'll be a problem.

So no, you have to do that.

And you got to do it right away.

Like when you're done.

Yeah,

Jim Schmidt

that's what I mean.

John Mino

Because if you right away, if you wait for it, then it's yeah.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah.

If you make something in the morning and then you wait till

John Mino

I get night, it is

Jim Schmidt

coagulated in there.

It is so hard

John Mino

to get over.

I was actually

Jim Schmidt

thinking about taking a toothbrush or something to get into those spots to get that stuff out.

So if I do it for you guys tomorrow, it's still going to be on my gross one because I don't think I have time to bite into it.

No, I'm not drinking

John Mino

that.

You guys want to wait?

I'll probably pass.

I'll pass.

Yep.

Now, I don't know how long that, you got some things in there that spoil rather quickly.

Yeah,

Jim Schmidt

I know.

I've been eating so many avocados though.

You know what's a good sandwich?

John Mino

Let me guess.

You're sardines and avocado?

Jim Schmidt

No, but that's not a bad idea.

The lettuce with avocado that I was talking about.

Yeah.

And either turkey or ham, OK, a little bit of mayo.

Yeah.

But heat it up first before you put the mayo on.

It's

John Mino

fantastic.

That turkey and ham, though.

Ham is it.

But you know, is that turkey processed?

Are you getting like a breast of turkey and then slicing it?

Jim Schmidt

I

John Mino

just I

Jim Schmidt

kill one of my turkeys.

John Mino

What do you think?

That's not that process.

That's not really that good for you.

Jim Schmidt

Actually, it's better for you.

John Mino

Cause it has all the chemicals to

Jim Schmidt

get, you know, keep your body has more to

Todd

it,

Jim Schmidt

but it's great.

It's good.

I'm going to make you guys one of those shakes though.

Oh, I'll buy you a blender first.

Um, it's donkey day.

It is coconut cream pie day.

You know, yesterday when we're, no, the other day when we had Sean in for Merida and those things.

And that, I remember when it used to get Tommy's buy rate, this little story, a little mom and pop little store and coming home from a little league game, buying one of those things for 15 cents.

And

John Mino

then the

Jim Schmidt

coconut cream pie ones, which were.

Amazingly good.

We just stuck with the apple.

John Mino

But yeah, that's no, I don't like coconut.

So I don't like

Jim Schmidt

all

Todd

coconut

John Mino

cream

Todd

pie

Jim Schmidt

to me is banana

Todd

cream.

All those.

I'll just sit there

Jim Schmidt

and eat the whole

Todd

thing

Jim Schmidt

for my birthday.

My son Dom gave me that coconut.

I gave you some.

Didn't I?

Yes,

Todd

they did.

Give me the last slice.

Jim Schmidt

Yes.

From the Union Hotel from the Baker at the Union homemade coconut cream pie.

That was amazing.

Wasn't it?

Oh, yeah.

What was your favorite pie, apple?

I like rhubarb.

Oh,

John Mino

you

Jim Schmidt

would.

John Mino

What?

Jim Schmidt

Nobody likes Rubar, probably.

Children's Book Week, which is great.

Your daughter wrote a children's book, right?

John Mino

Didn't she?

Jim Schmidt

I thought she was writing something.

John Mino

She writes a lot.

No, it was more short stories.

She doesn't have her own book published.

But was it

Jim Schmidt

towards kids?

John Mino

Yeah, that was something that was we were kind of talking before the show that was she had a booth and everything at Art Fest.

I'm sure you've done that too.

But yeah, it's so that was cool.

Well, that's cool.

Jim Schmidt

Yeah.

That's very cool.

Happy birthday, Enrique Iglesias, 50.

So that's the young one, obviously,

Todd

son,

Jim Schmidt

his kid.

Melissa Gilbert, 61, little house in the prairie.

Half pint.

Half pint.

Yep.

Didn't sound like her and the other girl.

Anderson.

Melissa Sue Anderson.

Got along.

And the one from Nellie.

You know who I mean, Jim.

You were at the event.

I was out with her at Heritage Hill.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh, real name.

I can't think of Allison and Greg.

Yes.

Yes.

Three, you know, they say in baseball sometimes you have, uh, you know, 20 guys in the team and after a game, 20 different cabs.

Cause every, you know, that's the way it sounded amongst those three.

Like, I bet it was tough.

Yeah.

But I think there were some, uh, stage moms that got involved in the whole thing.

And yeah.

Yep.

But she told some good stories about how Michael landed sometimes it looked like he had a cup of coffee and I think it was wild turkey Ronnie lot is 66 Ronnie lot was there when the Green Bay Packers Pick was up for the NFL draft and they took

Rich Campbell, who never played.

I think he played one game his entire career.

Here's a Packers number one draft pick and like two picks later, I think it was San Francisco took Ronnie Lott, who was one of the all time greatest safeties in the history of the National Football League.

Hall of Famer, first ballot Hall of Famer, Packers passed him up.

Alex Van Halen, 72.

I don't think he's got much going on these days.

No.

I mean, he had his thing with his brother.

Phillip Bailey.

Who's Phillip Bailey?

Todd

So Earth went in fire and he had a duet back in the 80s with Phil Collins.

Easy lover.

Remember that song?

Jim Schmidt

Oh, sure.

Todd

Yep.

Phil Bailey.

Oh, cool.

Tony Tenille,

John Mino

85.

Come on.

Wow.

That's like almost 100.

Oh, my God.

85 is not just a, well, you remember that.

I do.

I

Todd

remember her.

No, but remember in 20 years when you're 85,

Jim Schmidt

we'll be like, Jim, it's

Todd

almost 100.

Jim Schmidt

that's good that's good uh let's see um good morning guys you three are as cool as a cucumber in a bowl of hot sauce brian brian

John Mino

brian's getting better he's that was nice right

Jim Schmidt

he always starts

John Mino

that he does feel snarky

Jim Schmidt

but he's he always does he's got any haskell in a way we got a bunch of good ones here folks stay with us we got a great show coming for you downtown oshkosh back at this

Jim (co-host)

Roll on highway, roll on along, roll on daddy till you get back home.

Roll on family, roll on crew, roll on mama

Mike (host)

like I asked you to do.

97.9 FM, WGBW, 98.3 and 96.5 FM, W-I-S-S, and of course, the Civic Media app worldwide, along with 1100 AM and 1590 AM.

As we mentioned, 38 in Green Bay, 39 in Appton, 41 in Oshkosh, mostly sunny today, high in the mid to upper 50s, but it looks like a great, great weekend coming up.

We got some great guests for you coming our way from down here.

I'll tell you what.

Todd, let's talk a little bit about our first guest that's gonna be coming up.

in about 10 minutes.

Alicia Wenger, Executive Director of the Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services.

What a history to this.

This great entity they put together, huh?

Well, and you hate to say it spawned from tragedy, but but it

Todd (co-host)

did

Mike (host)

but

Todd (co-host)

it did it was it did and I'll tell you it's been it's been a it's been a anchor in our community for a lot of years and just recently they had to expand from a rather large Victorian type house in Oshkosh to a much larger facility which allowed them to expand and help more people so she'll be in to talk a little bit about that but the history you guys were talking off the air why it's called Christine Ann and all that

quite sad interesting

Caller

and you know it's too bad that you had to move from the Victorian house to the 64 bed and now right in Green Bay they put that golden house that I don't know we better get that under control I think that that's been around for a long time but never talked about so now that it's out in the open I think people are you know hey look you had to do this is just crazy some of the stuff that

Mike (host)

I mean I don't know if that's good or bad that they had to expand does that mean there's more victims happening or does it mean there's more victims coming forward we'll ask her but I think it's the latter

I hope so.

I mean, that's good then, you know, hey, you know, something yesterday I was driving on Mason and it's going to stop traffic.

What's up the old truce house?

Oh, truce.

Caller

Yeah,

Mike (host)

we had them on.

Yeah, but she mentioned, you know, we're a lot bigger place in your and I was stopped right there and I was that does go way back.

Like, you know, when you drive by it, you think, well, okay, a person, you know, one family

Caller

might stay there for holy crap.

That's big back there.

That's the other room and they got great community rooms and

Yeah, it's I wonder.

I want to ask her how they did for.

Remember we they were worried about the draft that they were going to get full.

They're always full that they needed some extra houses.

So a lady was listening to us and she wrote me a letter.

They had to get references.

If you want to open up your house to the Altrusa.

Oh, I

Todd (co-host)

believe that.

Sure.

Yeah.

Caller

So she will you write my reference letter?

I'm like, yeah, absolutely.

So

Todd (co-host)

anyway, I.

So

Caller

much better so much I

Mike (host)

walk in today.

She's at her desk.

I walk in which I first thing she does get she gets up, but she closes the door She wanted to do that before you got here, but she's like damn there he is We got some text here.

See from Dave the mayor is even above foot odor Okay, all

Caller

right, Dave

Mike (host)

Todd and Dupir says Jim not only has multiple pairs of slippers, but I bet they're all embossed I won

Anybody surprised

Todd (co-host)

by that

Mike (host)

yes, they're gifts.

Come on.

Good morning to in my opinion the best morning talk show in the whole wide world, Mike.

Thank you, Mike.

Love you, Mike.

OK, is this legit?

Well, this one just puts soap and water in it, let it run after you use it each time.

OK, that's fine.

I'll try that.

Allison from Allentown, Pennsylvania.

Todd (co-host)

That's where she's listening in.

Mike (host)

Wow.

So.

How cool is

Caller

that?

Turn your blender back on after you put soap and water.

That's a good idea.

I don't I never would have thought of that.

Yeah, but you don't want your next drink to take, take.

Well, you got to rinse it out and stuff, right?

But that

Mike (host)

is a great idea.

Allison, tell us about why you're listening to us from Allentown, Pennsylvania.

All right.

That was the biggest.

It was the number one hit in December of 1982.

Billy Joel.

Yes.

Living here in Allentown.

Yes.

Okay, so anyway, but that's great that you're listening.

Thank you very much.

And did we ever hand out our $25 gift card?

Not yet

Todd (co-host)

for the tagline.

Mike (host)

Can we keep it going

Todd (co-host)

to this?

Mike (host)

Yep.

Our snarkiest tagline.

Here's how we do it, folks, since, you know, we were number two for the morning shows.

And we're proud of that.

We're proud of that.

You know what?

Doggone it, you're all winners.

And we were coming out taglines yesterday.

Mine on the bear.

And then you fill in the rest.

I kind of like the one.

What did you expect?

There were a

Caller

couple

Mike (host)

really good ones.

Caller

There were some really good ones.

Mike (host)

So we have to.

So we're continuing that one today.

Fill us in on your best slogan.

Mine on the mare.

Our tagline.

Yada, yada, yada.

And people are going to be like, OK, that's cool.

Yes.

That's not a bad one in itself.

Mine on the mare.

Yada,

Caller

yada,

Mike (host)

yada.

That's true.

That is true, Todd.

That's not bad.

I came up with that.

I get the $25

Todd (co-host)

card.

Mike (host)

Also coming up today, Kaden Lederhaus and Feneke Thompson, Bike Osh 25.

I am the community inside iCare.

Tell me a little bit more about biking in Oshkosh, Todd, because that is so big down

Todd (co-host)

here.

This is an event coming up in a couple of weeks.

It's with some of the students in town.

And basically you're going to be able to bike around the city, stop off at certain points to have your your little card punched or whatever.

This is really interesting.

because you're right, biking is big in this city, and these two young men will talk a little bit about this particular, and I think it's pronounced, we'll have to find out, but like bug gosh, so it's like, bug gosh, bug gosh, 25, I think.

But this

Mike (host)

is a big biking community,

Caller

right?

I mean, like community, biking, groups.

This is their ninth annual, so they know what they're doing here, but they really want to educate people on the bike lanes, and really, because there's responsibilities.

Everybody's like, well, the cars, the cars, the cars.

Well, the bike, because they have some responsibilities, too.

So I think they try to educate the whole community on.

But biking's big, no doubt about it.

So did you?

I know.

Yeah, I got busy yesterday.

I had to go pick up some stuff for that party I'm having.

Tell me it's going biking.

I did.

But I went and rented the table and chairs.

I had to pick all that stuff up yesterday.

So I don't have to do it today.

Also, just want to mention that did you ask

Mike (host)

your neighbor if he's got a gel seat for me?

Caller

No, yeah, I can tell you what I this is this is kind of sad I don't remember his dog died and he's like us So they're in mourning.

No, I didn't go over there.

Okay

All right.

Sorry

Mike (host)

about

Caller

that.

Todd (co-host)

Just wanted to mention that that particular segment is our new eye in the community segment.

And it's brought to you by Insight Eye Care, the eye doctor that was on with us last time.

Oh, yeah.

He was great.

So big thanks to him and his locations.

We'll learn more about that in the next couple of weeks.

Oh, that's fantastic.

Yep.

Mike (host)

Oh, glad to hear it.

Really glad to hear it.

Then Connie Carmichael, Oshkosh Chamber, coming on to talk about some great things.

Caller

Oh, they good.

They got so much going on here at the chamber.

And what's cool about their chamber, I mean, just not just the 900 members that they have in networking and doing business to business.

They actually give you their mailing list for free.

Isn't that cool?

So you got 900 friends.

You can just email to tell what you're doing.

Absolutely.

There's so much else going on there.

So that's it's great organization.

All right.

We just had

Mike (host)

a quick break.

Mine or the mayor coming right from downtown Oshkosh in a beautiful Thursday morning.

Back after

Jim (co-host)

this.

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John Mino (Host)

Hey, welcome back.

Come on in on the Mayor.

coming your way from downtown Oshkosh and a beautiful but chilly Thursday morning 38 in Green Bay 39 out in 41 Oshkosh high today in the mid to upper 50s I told you we've got a full slate of great guests we always do when we come to Oshkosh Todd and Lisa always put together a great great ensemble Alicia Wenger executive director of the Christine Ann story here domestic abuse services and we were just talking during the break and we were just

Wide-eyed her mouth's almost open.

You tell me about the day-to-day that you all deal with with this, but first I want to back up if you don't mind Christine and we need to acknowledge that more than just her name Can you tell her story and why your center is named after this young lady?

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

Absolutely.

Well, thank you so much

John Mino (Host)

and welcome by the way.

Yes, hi Great to say we love being here.

We absolutely love being in Oshkosh and

Jim Schmidt (Host)

you guys got it going on in Oshkosh and we got I just

Johnny's talking about we have a great lineup today, but Oshkosh is it's a big city Yeah, and we got this guy's gonna talk about bikes We got the chamber coming in but there's also some issues here that need to be dealt with right and we've had the homeless guy on before we had the food pantry and and you're here talking a little bit about domestic violence, which is

You're doing something about it.

You know, people who don't talk about it don't do anything.

It gets worse.

So I just

John Mino (Host)

Yeah, for that.

But I was also to another discussion Jim and I had right before you even came in.

Todd was telling us about how you had this facility, this big old house, and he had to expand or whatever.

And the question we had is that a good thing or a bad thing, meaning.

Domestic abuse is continuing at an accelerating pace or does it mean that you guys have done such a great job getting word out there that you were there to help that more people who maybe would have been What's the word?

Reluctant to come and ask for help now.

They realize you guys are there for them.

So

First of all, welcome.

And we just threw about 27 questions at you in our introduction.

So thank you for being

Jim Schmidt (Host)

here.

Our next guest coming up.

Turn her mic on.

All right.

Welcome.

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

Thank you.

Thank you so much for having me.

Jim Schmidt (Host)

We'll start with Kristine.

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

Yeah.

So Kristine Ann Clark, she grew up in the Oshkosh area, went to school at UW Oshkosh, where at that point in time, she had met her.

her boyfriend Alan and soon after they graduated they got married and things were and became very abusive and domestic violence a lot of times is not visible to the outside world.

There's so many people in our lives that are impacted by abuse and we have no idea because it's kept behind closed doors and that's really what was happening with Christine Ann and she was

They ended up having a child together a daughter and They the abuse had gotten so bad that she actually fled to a shelter in Milwaukee and Like the cycle of violence You know Alan convinced her to come back and so She tried and it got worse and so she ended up leaving it was at that point that she had told her family about

what was what was happening and What had happened essentially then was they went through the divorce, but they had 5050 custody of their daughter and during a child custody exchange Allen had convinced her to meet in a different location that was more secluded and It was relevant to their relationship when they were together.

It was a spot that they knew and he had

ended up taking her life and leaving the daughter unharmed.

Um,

John Mino (Host)

can I ask how old the daughter was at the time?

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

She was very little.

Um,

John Mino (Host)

I mean, no disrespect, but at least she didn't witness it firsthand type thing.

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

Yeah.

Um, she was with, I believe within her first two years of life and so, um,

Daughter was unharmed, but some people who were passing by ended up finding Christine and called the police and Alan is serving life in prison.

So her story is really important to tell because our organization, we started in 1984 and we were named Regional Domestic Abuse Services.

And this is one of the worst case scenarios that could have happened and right here in our community.

And it was right when our movement was really taking off.

So our agency actually approached her family and asked if we could rename our organization in Christine Ann's honor.

And they agreed.

And so now her name lives on as a symbol of hope for others in our community.

And in her case, she had left.

She had left that relationship, right?

And that is the most dangerous time in an abusive relationship is when somebody is leaving or preparing to leave.

Jim Schmidt (Host)

And it's sad as that is, if that's not the only story.

I mean, even, I think Wisconsin, safe, nice people, what do they call that?

Wisconsin nice.

Wisconsin nice, yeah.

It's not all that nice because you were even saying that statistically we're a little higher than we should be on the map.

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

Yeah, so Wisconsin is eighth in the nation for domestic violence homicides.

So one in every

Jim Schmidt (Host)

six states are like one in

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

every six domestic violence homicides are taking place in Wisconsin.

So that's.

John Mino (Host)

Yeah,

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

not in a good way either.

So it is something that is continuously rising from year to year.

And we try to do as much as we can to get the word out, do so much community education, help people understand what domestic.

abuse is and that there's assistance.

Jim Schmidt (Host)

And it's not always 21, 23-year-olds.

There's some older people that need to see a two that have been

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

living

John Mino (Host)

this life.

Men, women, children.

We almost like brag about how much we drink in Wisconsin, the drunkest state, whatever.

Is that a factor?

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

You know, so what I will say is that drugs, alcohol, stress, mental illness are all things that can

Exaggerate the really exaggerate the abuse, but it is not the cause okay, so But those are definitely factors that can often escalate a situation

Jim Schmidt (Host)

Wow So you this is your focus.

I'm gonna ask you yeah, why you got into that before I do that The the support from the community it's there.

I'm assuming you're a nonprofit.

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

We

Jim Schmidt (Host)

are right and you've expanded from what six seven eight beds to

Don't you have like 64 now?

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

Well, so we were actually 37.

We were.

Yes.

So we were a pretty decent

Jim Schmidt (Host)

size.

Pretty good size.

Yeah.

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

But our our shelter, our previous building had a lot of limitations.

And so it

John Mino (Host)

all buildings always

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

do.

They do.

It is.

It

John Mino (Host)

is

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

an absolutely gorgeous home.

And it did us well for over 30 years.

But we had two separate buildings.

And when we're talking about domestic violence survivors and the safety aspect that goes along with that, having two separate buildings where we're housing people in our shelter for them to walk outside and go into the main building, which is all open, right?

There's a security risk in that.

And so that was a big factor in us.

And

Jim Schmidt (Host)

the other thing I think you'll have to understand is what when, so I work at a homeless place when a homeless person shows up there alone.

They have nothing.

When people show up with you, they may have kids in tow.

I mean, it's it's like 64 families is a heck of a lot more than 64 people.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, you must have a lot of support to get that done because these kids got to go to school.

They got to get their health checkups and they got to eat.

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

We have, um, we have about 30 staff.

So, um, a lot of people are surprised by that too.

And, you know, and we have definitely

John Mino (Host)

expanded.

I think we, a lot of people, and I, we've both dealt with you, your type of organization.

So we kind of see the behind the curtain, but a lot of people might think, Oh, it's just one little house and this poor lady went there and she got to, they have no idea the magnitude of what you guys do.

Do they?

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

Yeah, absolutely.

A lot of people just view us as the shelter, but, you know, we offer so many different services.

The shelter is just.

a piece of what we do in the community.

But it is a very important piece because it offers that safety and security for people who are fleeing that active domestic violence.

Jim Schmidt (Host)

You just briefly said men and women.

I think everybody thinks it's a hundred percent.

And I look at the Chinese said we've worked with people like not you specifically but organizations like yours.

That can happen too.

That's got to be tough that first step to come forward.

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

Absolutely, you know I think that our name being more female centered a lot of people have the misconception that we only serve women and children and that is not the case We have Our agency serves everybody domestic abuse does not discriminate and neither do our services So they're inclusive.

We have a handful of men that stay in our shelter every single year more so that

that work with our outreach services.

But in terms of men who are impacted by domestic abuse, there's a lot of barriers

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also.

As victims.

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

Yes, as victims who maybe feel that they can't come forward or there's a lot of shame surrounding that or feel like I should be able to handle this or I'm not gonna be believed.

And a lot of people.

John Mino (Host)

That's one of the biggest curses guys were born with.

Asking for help or do you know what I mean?

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

I will 100% say that the majority of the people that we see are female or women who who are seeking our support but

But it is very important to know that every single person, anyone can be impacted.

Jim Schmidt (Host)

So let's talk about, I mean, you're the director, right?

Yes.

You're the executive director of the Christian Domestic Abuse Services.

And we talked about you got a new facility, 64 people you can answer.

But you must have a...

Outpatient.

You call it outpatient.

People would just call and say, look, this isn't working for me.

I mean, tell us about people that can just contact you anonymously, I hope.

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

Yes, absolutely.

So we have a 24-7 helpline.

We have trained advocates that are there.

24-7, 365 days a year.

They're there answering the phones, providing that support.

Our 24-7 helpline is anonymous.

So people can call and just, I want to chat about what's going on.

Or if you're a friend or family member of someone who's impacted by abuse, and you want to know how to best support them, that's what that 24-7 helpline is for.

So we offer that along with our 24-7 emergency shelter.

And then we do provide outreach services.

residential support.

We actually have three locations so our primary shelter and location is here in Oshkosh off of Algoma and then we have an outreach office in Monashah inside of the Levin building and we have another outreach office in Green Lake inside of the Town Square community

John Mino (Host)

building

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

because our our agency serves all of Winnebago County and all of Green Lake County.

John Mino (Host)

I'm gonna slip you read this because I don't want to ask it on the air.

Oh sure.

Ask this question.

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

Yes,

John Mino (Host)

okay.

I was go ahead and so what I just wrote down because I didn't know

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

if it was so it did What he asked was did the little girl turn out okay?

John Mino (Host)

It was tragic.

I didn't want to hear about it on the air and no deserts I don't want to bring up something so tragic.

No,

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

I'm sorry.

I Yes, and

A really powerful and wonderful moment that we had, Kristine Ann's daughter was, her family actually came and did a tour this past summer.

And they got to see the new building and I actually got the chance to meet her family and her daughter.

So it was a really, it was a really wonderful moment to be able to meet the

Jim Schmidt (Host)

whole family.

Yeah, absolutely.

All right.

John Mino (Host)

I

Jim Schmidt (Host)

want to talk about some of the programs you offer, because I think people just think it's a shelter.

But I mean, you have everything in here from the advocacy, the teen programs for kids.

John Mino (Host)

Yeah,

Jim Schmidt (Host)

we

John Mino (Host)

do.

I want to

Jim Schmidt (Host)

get back to some of those, because I think people look, I think we know it's an issue.

but it's just not, here's the place to sleep.

There's

John Mino (Host)

so

Jim Schmidt (Host)

much more that you offer.

John Mino (Host)

And you're sticking around for another segment.

We're not letting you go.

This is too fast.

I'm just sitting here, my mouth open.

You talk about these wonderful things you're doing and the need for them.

I'll

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

stay here all

John Mino (Host)

day, guys.

By the way, we got a, just to lighten it up, we got a big contest going.

A slogan contest you'll create if our people are.

We're

Jim Schmidt (Host)

looking for a tagline for our show because we entered a contest and we got second and we're like, if we would have had a tagline, we would have won.

John Mino (Host)

So

Jim Schmidt (Host)

we're looking for a tagline like,

John Mino (Host)

you know,

Jim Schmidt (Host)

the mayor something something something so it's can't

John Mino (Host)

be a paragraph here's gonna give you some here I don't hear mine on the mayor like a case of athletes foot that just don't go away I don't hear mine on the mayor bantering bickering and bewildered day

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

after

John Mino (Host)

day minor the mayor less fluff more facts occasional chaos another one mine on the mayor cancel us we dare you

Alicia Wenger (Guest)

You better not let him in.

Unknown Speaker/Caller

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Back golly, it's clean.

Clear to Flagtown.

Come on.

Hey, welcome back.

Might on the mayor

Amer (Host)

here, coming your way from downtown Oshkosh.

Very, very special guest.

Alicia, we've actually got really nice texts your Todd just posted.

Regarding your guest from Oshkosh, one of my favorite quotes, real people do real things.

A collective of a whole bunch of people who do things in their own locale, in their own neighborhoods, the sum is bigger than the parts and the parts will grow.

I love that.

Isn't that great?

That's

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

amazing.

Amer (Host)

Thank

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

you.

Thank you to whoever said that.

Jim (Host)

So with your facility that you have here, this Christie Ann Domestic Abuse Services, again, I think

people know and that it's a shelter.

People that can get away, but let's talk about a few other things that you offer.

I want to talk a little bit more about the children and teen programs.

Like I said, we know the shelter, but education, prevention, tell us what other things you offer there.

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

Yes, so I was kind of talking a little bit about our outreach services.

So just to put into kind of like numbers, our shelters

in our previous building, we don't have the numbers yet for this new building, but we served about 300, between 250, 300 individuals in our shelter.

We serve upwards of like 600 plus in our outreach services.

So those are the folks who maybe don't need the safety of the shelter, but they still need that emotional support, options, resources, material assistance, whatever that may look like.

And then we also provide legal advocacy.

So that's a huge piece of what

Unknown Speaker/Caller

we

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

do, which is

helping people with restraining orders, divorce, custody.

We're not lawyers, but we are immersed in the legal system and can help them walk through that very intimidating and overwhelming

Jim (Host)

process.

I'm sure one of the first things you gotta say is, well, I don't know if this is that big of a deal, but he does this once in a while, and your first thing's gotta be, that's not okay, because it just escalates, I mean.

Yeah,

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

well, a lot of people think that domestic violence is just physical.

And it's not.

It's so much more than that.

There are so many different tactics that are used in an abusive relationship where it's financial abuse, it's emotional abuse, it's psychological.

There's so many different elements that could go into it.

If

Amer (Host)

I could ask a follow up what Jim was saying, when should somebody make that call?

When would you say is that, okay, that's a tipping point.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

What advice would you give on that?

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

What I would say is that every single person

has a different point in time in which they feel is the time for them to come forward.

They are the experts of their own lives.

But what they need to know is that we are here 24-7.

Our 24-7 helpline, there's no obligation to give us any information.

If you just want to talk, we're there.

If you want to figure out your options, we're there.

If you just need that extra support or that validation.

We are there.

So that helpline, that phone number is 920-235-5998.

And like I said, there is a kind, compassionate person on the other end of that phone.

And it just takes a phone call.

Jim (Host)

Right.

And Johnny's asking about, what's the flare on this thing about?

Controlling is.

really with people power and control it is it's can be like you said it can be the female controlling the male I mean it doesn't always have to be this guy but that can escalate and you hear these stories some of this stuff escalates pretty quick too which is surprised me but yeah I'm so it's never too early to call you

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

absolutely and so another program that we offer to is our youth services so we have an

a team of advocates that work specifically with children who are impacted by abuse in some capacity.

So whether it's happening within their home, between their parents or their guardians, or maybe they're a teenager, they're getting into their first dating relationship, and it's not a healthy one.

We have advocates that go into the schools, they meet one-on-one with kids, they provide that additional support for them, and we're just a safe person for them to help process through what's going on.

We also do prevention education in the

So we're doing presentations to classrooms or sometimes even auditoriums on what is healthy relationships, what is...

what's a healthy friendship, boundaries, consent, what does that look like?

And so really breaking it down to help prevent the cycle of abuse from continuing.

You know, a lot of kids

Jim (Host)

that are

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

growing up in that environment,

Jim (Host)

those are

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

exposed to.

Jim (Host)

And they think that's, it's okay.

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

Yeah, it's normalized.

And so that's really what we're trying to do

Jim (Host)

is

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

interrupt that cycle.

Jim (Host)

It's just wonderful.

Amer (Host)

Just fantastic, man.

I'm glad

Jim (Host)

you're getting into those schools because you hear about, you know, everything abuse, I think they think it's like,

you know, Christiane, that's married for a year or two, things went, you know, but schools, you hear these stories

Unknown Speaker/Caller

about

Jim (Host)

their abusive relationships and they're 16, it's like, that's not gonna get better.

And then I just wanted to touch on briefly, there's people who are older and they're 60s

Unknown Speaker/Caller

that should

Jim (Host)

come and see you as well.

I mean, that's tough to do, because I've lived with this guy, but it's like, you gotta,

You're still an individual.

You've got to get out of that

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

thing.

It's hard.

There's people who could be married for 30 years and are just afraid of the unknown of what does it look like if I leave?

Will I be able to support myself?

Are they going to harm me?

Are they going to harm themselves if I leave?

So there's so many different factors.

Amer (Host)

And you answer that.

That's going to say the first thing.

two, three, five, five, nine, nine, eight.

Yeah, that's what we call you.

You give them comfort that it is okay to come see us.

Jim (Host)

I

Amer (Host)

mean, there's

Jim (Host)

a way out of this thing.

Amer (Host)

But make

Jim (Host)

that phone call,

Amer (Host)

right?

If they have any doubts, if they're asking those questions, what you just said, if they're asking themselves those questions, let's ask it to somebody else,

Jim (Host)

correct?

Doesn't cost anything, it's anonymous and just, you know.

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

Yeah, it's so important to know the resources too, so that a lot of people, they may not know what to say if someone discloses what's happening to them.

out in the community, but it's important to know what resources are in our area.

Jim (Host)

And two thirds of your business business, two thirds of your work is outpatient.

So I mean, it's it's a very common thing to do.

So

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

absolutely.

Jim (Host)

All right, well, I hope people contact you if you know someone.

Encouraged them to give you a call because I think it's great what you're doing.

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

Thank you

Jim (Host)

so much.

How about donations?

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

Yes In order to operate we rely heavily on the community to really help us help us do what we do and so

monetary donations are incredible.

They help us to have a lot of flexibility, but there's also in kind donations.

So batting, cleaning supplies, canned foods, those are all things that we take.

And we have an updated list on our website that has all of our current needs,

Jim (Host)

which is

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

www.christineand.net.

Jim (Host)

Okay, look up that website.

There's a lot of information on there, but you're right, you're nonprofit.

We need donations, and there's some great people in this community.

Amer (Host)

Alicia Wenger, Executive Director, Christine and Domestic Abuse Services.

You just blew us away here over the last 20 minutes with what you do.

Thank you, fellas.

Thanks for having me.

And you opened our eyes to this is so needed.

Oh, yeah.

Thank you, whatever we can do for you.

Thank you so much.

Let us know.

Alicia Wenger (Executive Director, Christine Ann Domestic Abuse Services)

Thank you.

Amer (Host)

My name is Amer.

Back after this.

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

Rick Leap (social studies teacher)

And

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim

John Mino

Schmidt.

96.5 FM, WISS, of course, the Civic Media app.

Right down here in our studios at WISS in Oshkosh, special thanks to Alicia Wenger, executive director of the Christine and Domestic Abuse Services Man.

She was just phenomenal talking about what they do down here.

Now we're going to switch sites to something else here.

This is brought to you by I in the community, brought to you by Insight Eye Care.

But first, and maybe these guys can help us out, we've still got our contest going for our best slogan.

We'll explain it to you guys.

We didn't win.

Jim Schmidt

They had the WBA awards last week.

It's Wisconsin Broadcasters Association.

The jazillion people, and they give out awards for the best of this, the best of that.

We took second, and we're very disappointed on that.

And we're not like, well, that's great.

No, it's not.

We blame it on our marketing department.

Right.

We're one of those things.

Who's Todd?

Winner, die.

So we're looking for a tagline.

So it's mine on the mayor, you know people to remember right like our hawk like not the best in the West because we're in the West but you know I'm talking about just a tagline like McDonald's would use or you know you're McDonald's well that didn't work but there's just a

John Mino

Arby's where's the beef?

Jim Schmidt

We got a

John Mino

great $25 gift kit got some other ones here mine on the mayor Radio for the emotionally damaged see that that hurts mine on the mayor hotter than your neighbor's bratwurst grill and his wife

Wow.

Mino the Mayor, hotter than the Phoenix ladies winning round one of the NCAA Tournament.

Then we had other ones like Mino the Mayor.

What'd you expect?

Right.

So we got a lot of snarky people.

So think about that when you guys get

Jim Schmidt

a

John Mino

chance.

Jim Schmidt

You guys are the creative guys.

You guys are

John Mino

creative guys.

Jim Schmidt

And it's amazing what you're doing besides academics, outside of academics.

We're going to get

John Mino

to that.

Bacot.

Nope.

Nope.

I'm going to have your, your teachers say this word for me.

Jim Schmidt

So how do we say B I K E O S H?

John Mino

Introduce yourself and tell us how to pronounce it.

Hi, I'm Rick, the social studies teacher.

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Like it's spelled B I K E O S H 2020, but pronounced by gosh.

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How many people are involved?

How much you guys get involved?

This is a big deal for you guys.

Introduce yourselves and tell us more about it.

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

Okay, yeah.

I'm Caden Leaderhouse.

I'm the student leader for Bikosh.

And, um, yeah.

See how he said that?

So you

Jim Schmidt

mean

Fanique Thompson (student volunteer)

Bikosh?

You guys like any

Jim Schmidt

sense of his laughing at you, Johnny?

Fanique Thompson (student volunteer)

Okay.

My name is Fanique Thompson.

I'm just helping out volunteering for the.

My leader.

Jim Schmidt

That's awesome.

High school kids that are getting involved in the community.

And just to remind people, the ninth annual bike gosh at the city-wide event aimed at improving bike safety and building on the local biking culture here in Oshkosh.

And

John Mino

I'm just here for my leader too.

Jim Schmidt

His leader of, okay.

How'd you get involved?

How many liters in a gallon?

No one knows.

No one knows.

We're going to see that guy Friday.

Did you know him?

Okay, he's pretty funny.

He's going to be in Green Bay Friday and he's... We can't go all over the place.

We do.

And that's why, you know, might on the mayor, you know, ADD, you know,

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

that's that's one of our takers.

Jim Schmidt

How'd you get

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

involved in all this?

So my freshman year, it was like a graded project we had to do.

And then I just like loved it.

So then my sophomore year, I just volunteered my time into working at a pit stop and then

I just rode like the rest of the time.

And so I figured since I love doing like biking and doing bike, gosh, so much, I just do it as my junior project.

John Mino

And I'll tell you what, this is pretty extensive.

Explain a little bit more about, and it's the ninth annual, but tell you the goals here about improving bike safety and all the different things with the bike culture.

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

Yeah.

So like we, um, so we just wanted to like, we know bike biking is a huge part in like a lot of people's lives, sometimes in like, like Madison, like as a great example, but like.

Oshkosh has It's a smaller city compared to like Madison and biking is still very important here And we just want to make biking like safer in Oshkosh We want to make more people bike like we just want it to be a more community like base thing

Jim Schmidt

and bikings Yeah, we're talking just a second, but you talk about the bike lanes and the safety aspect But you know, let's not forget the health part of biking.

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

Yeah, I mean

Jim Schmidt

that's

way up there.

I mean, and Madison is one of the healthiest cities.

They always come up like a top.

We Green Bay can become the drinking city.

I wish we would do more of what you guys like you here.

How about you?

How'd you get involved in all this?

Fanique Thompson (student volunteer)

So last year I volunteered and this year it's graded, but it really doesn't feel like that.

And, you know, we went to Madison yesterday.

We've seen all the people that depend on the.

Tell us more about that trip, you guys.

Go ahead.

Yeah.

So yesterday we went to Madison as a group for Communities One, which is.

Freshman and sophomores and we just seen like the amount of people that depend on bikes We seen the community bike program on how people could get different bikes and if it's needed for them how they could get help

Jim Schmidt

They really do it all from from bike that you could rent, you know just for the day

Fanique Thompson (student volunteer)

they

Jim Schmidt

got and that's kind of a We live in Wisconsin.

That's kind of a 12 month biking community down there.

Yeah, that's great.

Fanique Thompson (student volunteer)

No, would you find out in Madison?

What you think about it down there?

Um, so yesterday, yeah, we went to Madison.

We just seen all the people that really depend on the bikes and we seen all the infrastructure like dead bike elevators and stuff.

So,

John Mino

really?

Yeah.

Oh, cool.

So I'm still a bit bone broke.

Like how you guys want to use biking for the rest of your lives.

I mean, you guys are so young in high school and doesn't seem like it for what you're doing.

This is so awesome what you're doing.

But tell us a little bit about how you want to make this a part of your life.

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

Yeah.

So I.

Personally like I love like physical activity like I love working out and I love like biking and so like Biking is just something I enjoy because like it's like almost a long time like for yourself like just to gather yourself and so like I just like love biking

Jim Schmidt

When we talk about this education educate the bikers, but you know the vehicles too have to we had to respect each other I mean biking isn't like

Everything's for you.

I mean, you're right.

Talk about a little bit of what people can learn on this On this day that you're gonna have the night.

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

Yeah, so on May 17th, we're gonna have bike ash 25 and so There's 20 pit stops around the city that like people can bike to and like collect stamps from and like we just want to use that to Help like show the biking infrastructure that I'm Oshkosh has

and like have like, and just like also educate our drivers on like,

Jim Schmidt

yeah.

And it's pretty cool that you go to those 20 stops in your bike.

It's a heck of a lot easier than it is going in a car.

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

Yeah.

Jim Schmidt

I thought I liked about bikes.

Everybody freaks out about parking, parking, parking, parking, you know, and with bikes, you're kind of there.

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Jim Schmidt

And you, have you done this before?

Did you do the pit stops or

Fanique Thompson (student volunteer)

is this your first time?

Okay, tell me about that.

Last year I volunteered for the pit stops just like on my own free will.

John Mino

And what happens at the pit stop?

They check their stamps or get stamped, basically the card.

Fanique Thompson (student volunteer)

Yeah.

So they all have pits, pit passes, right?

And you're just able to start it off at the different pits.

And one of

John Mino

them is right here, I believe at the studios, right, Todd?

Yeah, cool.

Awesome.

Jim Schmidt

And then the weather is supposed to be perfect.

Yes.

They when the pit, when you fill your pit stop card to 20 of them is, you know, you get something.

Fanique Thompson (student volunteer)

Yeah.

So I think it can go more into that.

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

Yeah.

So each stamp you get, you get one ticket for a raffle basket.

And then we also sectioned off each like pit stop depending on where they are in the city.

Like we have a downtown section.

We have like a south section of like Oshkosh.

And so each one you get, you get a raffle ticket.

Each like little like section you get, you get an extra raffle ticket.

And then you can bring those stamps down to Oshkosh North.

That's where our celebration is going to be.

And you can get your tickets and go.

Our different raffle baskets.

John Mino

What if somebody doesn't have a bike and then want to take part you guys have any for renter to loan or anything like that?

We do not actually Something that's very very important if you want to be a serious biker like myself.

Oh, he's not gel seats

Gel seats are so important that has discouraged and cause serious injuries to so many people if

Jim Schmidt

you don't have a gel seat I've experienced if you

John Mino

don't even want me to go into the trauma I suffered from not having a gel seat

Jim Schmidt

back to these guys you don't want to know you guys I

John Mino

don't want to ruin

Jim Schmidt

your lives by

John Mino

thinking what could happen down the road

Jim Schmidt

how about okay how about some advice for bikers like what what advice you give and then I want to know what you think if you're the mayor what what can the city do to enhance

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

biking

So I think that That's a good question.

I think biking especially like here in Oshkosh you still have to be very cautious of like drivers like

Because drivers aren't as used to yielding to bikes as like Madison.

Jim Schmidt

It's a vehicle city.

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

I mean, yeah, it's

Jim Schmidt

those Green Bay and Appleton's doing a pretty good job.

And there's times you're

John Mino

in Green Bay, Jim, when I'm driving down and somebody's on the street and I think, geez, buddy, why are you in the middle?

But then you realize he's in a bike lane.

Yes.

I mean, he's in a legitimate

Jim Schmidt

way.

And we

John Mino

got to realize that as drivers.

Jim Schmidt

There's lines there.

There's a bike there.

And there's still the cars driving on that pass and on the right.

Yeah.

You

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

know

Jim Schmidt

what I mean?

That's not your lane.

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

Yeah.

Jim Schmidt

But again, the bicyclists got to yield.

You know, you can't cut in front of cars.

We don't like that either.

I mean, I do both.

So I just think I have respect for both.

Both vehicles and bikes.

But you're saying that in Oshkosh, you think the infrastructure is pretty good?

Caden Leaderhouse (student leader)

Yeah, I think it's decent for a smaller city compared to Madison.

Yeah.

But for the second part of your question, I think we should just host more biking events.

I know Bike Osh is a big one.

I don't know too many other ones on like the top of my head, but I feel like we could definitely like create more awareness for biking

John Mino

Can I bring in your social studies

Jim Schmidt

teacher?

I just think how easy it is to bike.

It's not that expensive.

You can get a nice bike for 75 You'll use one but like John does But you can get a nice bike and like we talked about how the convenience of just

Parking and everything so yeah, you're right people need to get exposed to bikes because maybe some of them haven't ridden a bike in some time You never know

John Mino

I just want to say when I say introduce yourself once more time My name is Rick leap and you are the social studies teacher in the program You were that teacher that we always wanted in high school that would take people out of the classroom

Rick Leap (social studies teacher)

Absolutely.

John Mino

Well,

Rick Leap (social studies teacher)

it's funny you said that because every Saturday we do community rides.

And so one of the questions that you were mentioning, Mayor, about how do you create more safety, I think the point of the event is the more bikers you get out into the community.

the more visible you are, the more used to vehicles get used

Fanique Thompson (student volunteer)

to all the

Rick Leap (social studies teacher)

individuals.

And so on Saturday mornings, we get 15 to 20 kids that'll join me in a ride and we use a different infrastructure.

And Oshkosh has some great stuff, bike lanes to the Wyawash Trail, to the Riverwalk.

And so I get those kids on that infrastructure.

Jim Schmidt

And to know how safe it is and that some people may not know you have these bike lanes too.

You don't need to expose them to that.

Yeah,

Rick Leap (social studies teacher)

even like the rapidly flashing beacons.

You know that are at Murdock and over on Whistle Street until someone uses them and then all of a sudden all of these cars stop and now you're starting to create this habit and awareness for exactly the bikers just

Jim Schmidt

For John sake he gets them out of school.

He said Saturday.

Oh All right, you're not as cool as I thought you were I did get him out of zero-hour class because both of the boys had zero-hour class I just before you say goodbye.

I would not you You teach leadership to absolutely.

I would just say something about how that

fits into what these guys are doing.

I mean, that's so important.

Rick Leap (social studies teacher)

Yeah, absolutely.

Well, first of all, leaders got to put themselves out here, right?

And they got to extend themselves and stretch themselves.

They're in here this morning with you.

I mean, they're deathly or probably afraid.

Jim Schmidt

What?

Rick Leap (social studies teacher)

They come out of this and like I tell them, I do the gyms and intimidating guy.

Right.

I do do the paper and pencil test yet, but this is the true test, right?

And they walk out of here feeling like they they've impacted their community and they've represented their project.

Jim Schmidt

So

Rick Leap (social studies teacher)

those are those are the cool things that this program allows.

Jim Schmidt

It's the way the world works, too.

I mean, you read theory, these guys are smart teachers, but to really get out there and put the theory to the practice like.

You wrote the press release and here you are sitting here.

Okay.

Well, I just said I did it.

You'll learn to

Fanique Thompson (student volunteer)

take

John Mino

credit.

Jim Schmidt

You'll never ever

John Mino

occur in the media

Jim Schmidt

if you don't take credit for things you don't do.

You'll take credit for it.

No, I just think that's great.

Here you are talking to, you know, thousands of people.

And I think that's that's the real world.

So congratulations.

I think that's great.

You guys are here.

John Mino

Do you guys need emotional support, not emotional support, financial support or anything for you guys?

I need emotional support.

We're the ones

Rick Leap (social studies teacher)

that need emotional support.

Actually, this is what Caden, as one of the project's leaders had to do and the two others, they went and sought outdoor prizes.

And the point is, is to expose the community to wonderful places like this,

John Mino

as

Rick Leap (social studies teacher)

well as other local places.

So the local businesses have already truly stepped up.

Awesome.

Thanks

John Mino

so much for what you do.

This is great.

Congratulations, guys.

You guys are really impressive, man.

I wasn't like you guys in high school, but it was Jim.

We got started quick break.

Thanks for being here

Co-host 2

in downtown Oshkosh and a sunny, sunny morning.

Very, very impressive.

Two young men there from Oshkosh, North High School.

Kate in the Leaderhouse and Feneke Thompson.

By gosh.

Co-host 1

By gosh.

By gosh.

By gosh.

So like, like by gosh, but put a K there.

Why

Co-host 2

can't I do, I finally

Co-host 3

got

Co-host 1

a new

Co-host 3

Pisco weekend down pat.

Why can't I get this down

Co-host 1

pat?

Because you're

Co-host 3

putting the accent on the wrong syllable.

You have to do by gosh.

by cash

Co-host 1

by

Co-host 3

cash

Co-host 1

by cash twenty five by cash twenty five by cash twenty five by cash by cash.

Co-host 3

OK.

So all right.

We didn't I don't know if we spent enough time on the whole event nine until noon on the 17th.

Right.

So the 17th and just contact these guys have phone number here two three six fifty fifty nine.

Yep.

This is a cool thing.

You get the prizes.

You go to twenty different locations to pick up your stamp.

But

I think what's more important about that is just more information on the biking culture here in Oshkosh.

Co-host 2

Totally

Co-host 3

agree.

Co-host 2

And I thought that the TG brought up a great point.

The more people that are out there on bikes, the more drivers will kind of get into that routine.

So I think that's great what they're doing, educating drivers and bikers and once again, Lakeshark Park Four Seasons Building.

in Oshkosh.

And if you need more information, once again, it's May 17th, 9 to 12.

It goes on 920-236-5059-236-5059.

And they

Co-host 3

got the Bikosh Facebook page.

You can look at that as well.

We should bring

Co-host 1

Peter and Tracy Fluckey down for it.

Yeah, they'd

Co-host 2

be great.

Still looking for a winner for our contest.

Again, for our bumper sticker type thing.

Got some other ones here.

Mine on the bear.

Thank God they have textures.

Alright, thank you.

Mine on the bear.

Two old white dudes who need metamucil.

Co-host 1

Look who sent that one in.

Who is that?

Who?

Lisa Hale.

Oh.

Co-host 2

It's

Co-host 1

a minor there

Co-host 2

listen learn laugh love it Dave.

Thank you very much.

All right,

Co-host 3

Dave.

That's that's that's in the top three

Co-host 2

then extra got nice one here says looking forward to Jim's presentation to the leadership Green Bay class of 2025 next Tuesday

Co-host 3

Wednesday.

Is it Tuesday?

It says here Tuesday.

That's gonna be a problem.

I

Co-host 1

think

Co-host 3

it's Wednesday.

I think it's Wednesday at one o'clock.

I'm looking forward to that.

A lot of people graduate of Leadership Green Bay.

just talked about how that exposes you to so

Co-host 2

much.

You want some first test for a good leader?

Co-host 3

If they show up on time.

You know what I miss?

Not being mayor is an assistant.

So I'll look at that.

But I'm looking forward to that talk.

Co-host 2

Hey, also another thing here we haven't talked about.

Free Ticket Friday for the Milwaukee Brewers on WISS and WGBW starts tomorrow.

Co-host 1

That's right.

Starts with Mino and the mayor.

You'll have a chance to win all day long across all the shows on the radio stations.

So start listening tomorrow.

You walk away with that.

I believe four tickets to

game.

And that'll go on all season long free ticket Friday.

And how do they take part once again?

Tomorrow we will have a keyword for them to text in like we do with our other contests.

So be listening in for that.

I believe in the seven o'clock hour tomorrow morning.

Co-host 2

Fantastic.

Yeah,

Co-host 1

that'll be a lot of fun.

Co-host 2

Good.

Great stuff going on.

Co-host 1

I'm

Co-host 2

actually

Co-host 3

getting nervous.

I gotta go look at my phone and see what I'm doing.

Yeah.

It's one of those talks like is it's like you giving a talk though on certain things like you know the subject so I'm not I

Co-host 2

won't

Co-host 3

panic it's the time I'm figured out

Co-host 2

I will say something that you have no idea well yeah you would how many times I'm driving to an event and I'm double-checking my mind oh yeah okay we're okay no I didn't pay enough it

Co-host 1

at

Co-host 2

the so-and-so

American Legion, you know what I mean?

We're just different things like that and you're driving there and it's like, oh crap.

So that does happen.

Co-host 1

I used to DJ weddings and the entire way to the wedding.

Did I remember the special song, the father daughter dance?

Are they doing the thing before or after?

When did they do in the garden?

I

Co-host 2

didn't know you DJed

Co-host 1

weddings.

I've always wanted to do that.

No, you don't.

Yeah, I do.

No, because you... No, they don't.

I don't have a belt.

I don't.

He

Co-host 2

just earned

Co-host 1

a rare belt.

It was crazy.

Hang on, hang on, hang on.

Co-host 2

Monster can doesn't

Co-host 1

work.

But a DJ can make or break a wedding.

at 100%, right?

Co-host 3

They're not that cheap.

I mean, you think it, well, we're going with a DJ instead of

Co-host 1

a band.

Not at all.

Co-host 3

It's not that much cheaper.

Co-host 1

Yeah.

If you're really good, you're worth it.

And there are some really good DJs out there.

I was mediocre at best, and I knew what worked, right?

You always played the twist.

But you know music so well.

Yeah, but then you get the people that come up and go, you know.

You know, it would get this party going is some AC DC and it's like right after dinner, right?

You're like, yeah, we'll get to the bride

Co-host 3

said, don't play AC DC.

Co-host 1

That's exactly right.

I did a lot.

I did people requesting.

I did a wedding here in Oshkosh, not that, uh, you know, right outside town at the Westward Ho campground.

I did a wedding and they wanted nothing but country music.

Okay.

And the wedding party was the only group dancing.

Nobody else was dancing.

So somebody came up and said, Hey, can you play some Van Morrison brown-eyed girl?

Perfect song, right?

Yeah.

Played it.

The crowd just went nuts, went on the dance floor.

All of a sudden the bride was walking up to the DJ stand and she said,

I only want country music.

Oh, man.

And by, I don't know.

Yeah, it didn't last long.

The wedding was done by the

Co-host 2

1030.

Wow.

What's like the song?

What song do you play to get people on the dance floor?

Co-host 1

I mean, back then it was, it was like the brown eyed girls.

And so I don't know anymore.

That has changed so much.

Co-host 3

But we had Big Mouth that there's some bands that just are good at that, like

Co-host 1

Big Mouth.

They

Co-host 3

did just that.

It was the whole night.

I mean,

Co-host 2

I swear to God.

This isn't a negative towards Big Mouth.

I love them.

I love them so much.

But I was at our buddy Kramer's.

But the thing is, they're so good that people just sat like they're at a concert.

They didn't want to dance.

They want to just listen to them and watch

Co-host 3

them.

You know how to care of that?

Oh, took the mic and said.

I paid a lot of money

Co-host 2

for that.

This is not

Co-host 3

a show band.

This is a dance band.

And I'll tell you what, Johnny, they danced till all

Co-host 1

night.

It was great.

You were scared of you.

Co-host 3

But I did.

I said that it's on the video thing.

But we had to go with it.

Had to go with the DJ.

We went with a DJ for our other daughters.

Because he's from Columbia, Christian from here.

And there's not there's sort of in a band that can play both.

Co-host 2

Right.

So the guys

Co-host 3

like, I can do this thing.

And it was awesome wedding.

So

Co-host 2

yeah, DJs are great.

Let's go.

Let us know.

Anybody out there Texas where like the songs a DJ would have would use the floor to get people on the dance floor and then it brings the ice and then it kind of.

Yeah.

Do they still do that?

Co-host 3

Yes, they do.

Co-host 2

We got a quick break.

Connie Carmichael Oshkosh Chamberlain.

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coming your way from WSS Studios in downtown Oshkosh.

Beautiful sunny morning out there.

Still a little chilly, 38 in Green Bay, 39 in Ampton, 41 in Oshkosh.

High in the upper fifties today and then it gets warm for the rest of the week after that.

Great guest today, Alicia Wenger, executive director of the Christine and Domestic Abuse Service here in Oshkosh.

Kayden Leaderhouse and Feneke Thompson.

By Kosh.

My gosh.

My gosh.

My gosh 25.

Great event.

Coming up

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

on the

John Minow (host)

17th.

And now, Connie Carmichael from the Oshkosh Chamber.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

I'm so excited to be with Mino and the Mayor.

All right.

All right.

Thank you very

Jim Schmidt (host)

much.

Put it on the bucket list.

OK.

Hey, welcome.

We were talking before.

We were really broadcast in Green Bay, Appleton and Oshkosh.

But boy, can a good chambermaker break a city, right?

I mean, just elevate it to that next level.

And you're doing great here.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Oh.

That is so true.

I mean, I love all the members and all the businesses here in Oshkosh.

It really helps grow the community.

And we are so excited.

Jim Schmidt (host)

The networking support that you have.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

The networking is out of this world.

It's amazing how many people come to our events, make new business friends and everything.

It's very exciting.

John Minow (host)

I don't know if per capita the size of Oshkosh versus the number of people you bring in from outside for events between EAA and the volleyball tournament and some of these other things.

You guys got to be top in the state, aren't you?

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Well, thank you.

John Minow (host)

You've got your hand in that

Jim Schmidt (host)

as a chamber.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Yes, absolutely.

I'm surprised when I get calls from out of the state that people want to join the chamber that are moving their business here, opening a new business here.

I get really excited that some of the companies buy businesses.

We have so many of you probably came into town.

You saw a lot of new apartment complexes.

Absolutely.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Myren's busy.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

It's just totally growing.

I love it.

Jim Schmidt (host)

So for you.

So Chamber, there's large, medium and small businesses in your Chamber.

Right.

900 members.

I was going through your benefits and I know some other Chambers, but I think one of the coolest things you offer is that EAP program for small businesses because that's the employee assistance program, which

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

I think

Jim Schmidt (host)

everybody knows.

But in running a business, it really sometimes isn't the product or the marketing or the cost, it's the people.

And when there's conflict, you as a manager, it's like, fix this.

You don't know how to fix it.

They're not your kids.

So to set them to EPA, I think is a great benefit that the Oshkosh Chamber

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

offers.

Absolutely, Jim.

That is great.

With that, Sean Fitzgerald, he's our economic outlook person, and he does a great job getting a meeting with people and finding what their need is.

We have, like I said, we have four pillars, the economic development, resources.

We have advocacy, education and talent, which is awesome.

And then, of course, the events and programs.

And that's what...

I'm all about here today.

John Minow (host)

Well, that's what I mean.

This is one of those cities.

It's not just, oh, we're a manufacturing city.

We've been that way for 150 years, and that's what we're going to hang our hat on.

You guys still embrace that.

And we talk about this all the time, ad nauseam.

How much we love that you guys embrace your history here, Nash.

Like I said, when I was driving here, like not even a half a block away, there's that beautiful, unbelievable granary that it says right in there.

Built in 1883.

The next one, 1889.

Right next to us, a fire station that probably used horses to pull the wagon.

I mean, these are really, really historical buildings right here in these cool little neighborhoods like the one we're in right now.

I think that for somebody from outside of an area to come and see how you guys have embraced your history.

That's pretty cool.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

I absolutely love that, you know, especially in the Pain Arts Center and the Oshkosh Public Museum.

We have so much to offer in Oshkosh, and I myself moved here a little over 30 years ago, and once I moved here, I said I'm not leaving.

Where did you come

John Minow (host)

from?

Where did you come from?

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

All over.

I was born in Germany.

I grew up down south.

I still have a little bit of twang, sorry.

I hear that once in a while.

Mobile Alabama.

John Minow (host)

Wow.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

My granddaddy worked for WKRG.

John Minow (host)

No, Kenny.

Well, that's cool.

between Todd and Lisa, they're Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Oh,

Caller from the South

yeah.

Well,

John Minow (host)

how

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

y'all do

Caller from the South

it?

Right.

You didn't bless your heart.

You didn't really need to twang when she said granddaddy.

That's really not Midwest thing.

That's cool.

Were you an

John Minow (host)

Army brat in

Caller from the South

Germany?

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

I was.

I was for many years.

And I went to school there.

I went to the real kindergarten.

Um, and I absolutely loved it.

John Minow (host)

Was your mom originally German from Germany?

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

No, no, my mom was from Mobile.

My dad was from Mississippi.

Wow.

Yep.

But he was, uh, in the Army Air Force back in the day till they split up.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Air Corps Army Air

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Corps.

Wow.

I

Jim Schmidt (host)

know it was 30 years ago.

Just quickly.

How did you get here?

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Well, I moved around quite a bit in TV and radio.

Did you do

Jim Schmidt (host)

TV?

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

I did.

Here in town, back in the day, it was called OCAT, Oshkosh Community Access Television.

I even started up, helped start up with Andy Radick, a low-powered FM station, W-O-C-T.

Well, that's

John Minow (host)

cool.

comfortable right here

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

in front of a microphone.

Yes.

I was at North Dakota in North Dakota for one year to the day and had to get out of there.

And then I loved it when I got to Oshkosh.

Williston.

John Minow (host)

Williston.

I don't even know

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

that

John Minow (host)

one.

So were you a radio person and moving around and

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

stuff?

I did like background and automation and things like that.

And then did on air here in town.

That's cool.

John Minow (host)

Connie, Connie, what if you had a place

a note on something about Oshkosh.

We are able to attract companies to build here and create jobs.

We have the ability to have people open businesses.

What do you think as being the head of the chamber?

Why

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

is it?

I'm not the head of the chamber.

Well, you know what I'm saying.

I'm claiming as the head of the chamber.

You're the spokesperson.

I'm just one part of it.

John Minow (host)

What do you think though?

Why is that?

Why does Oshkosh always seem to perform really well in those areas?

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Honestly, I think it's the people.

I was

John Minow (host)

just gonna

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

say.

I love the staff too at Discover Oshkosh.

Oshkosh community is so welcoming.

And it's really about the people first and the businesses second, but I think it's how people treat everyone.

They're so welcoming when they come to town.

I felt that when I first moved to town as well.

Jim Schmidt (host)

We've got many people on here from Oshkosh.

And I will say, I think you're, I know you're right about the people part of it, but the people who live here, they're not leaving.

And I think that says a lot for a new business.

It's like, if they come here and it's like, Oshkosh, that's pretty good.

We're kind of looking at maybe going to Nashville or something, but nobody says that here.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

They don't.

And I don't know.

I feel that why would you leave?

We have so much to offer.

And actually,

We have surrounding areas too from Milwaukee, Appleton, Vondellette, Green Bay.

The town

Jim Schmidt (host)

of Dale.

The

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

town of

Jim Schmidt (host)

Dale.

What I think is cool about Oshkosh too is that you do reach out past the municipality.

Your food pantry will serve anyone that comes in.

The domestic, we just had somebody on here from the domestic abuse shelter.

And it's very regional.

And I think that's healthy for you to be regional versus.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Oh, absolutely.

And father cars.

And there's so many things for

everybody Christine and center like you had on earlier I was over there a couple of weeks ago and That place is amazing all the things that they offer

Jim Schmidt (host)

and so in recruiting talent They look for a lot of things and sure you've done your surveys What are you looking for but boy do they want a community that takes care of the social issues because if you just say you know We got fireworks.

We got soccer.

It's like okay.

What else?

What are you doing for?

Because every community has homeless people everybody has domestic the people who deal with it

are more respected and appreciated by young talent than the people who don't.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Yeah, I agree with that.

Jim Schmidt (host)

I have three millennials, so I can speak to that.

They really look for that with an interview, they look for jobs, people who, and I just think, Oshkosh, you're there.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

I believe so, and I think we're a very diverse community as well.

You're absolutely right, Tim.

Jim Schmidt (host)

How about the university?

Do you have a pretty close affiliation

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

with them?

Yes, we do quite a bit of things with the university as well.

We have a lot of programs over there at the Culver Center.

We just met the new chancellor a couple of weeks ago when we had an event there.

Jim Schmidt (host)

And the chamber events, you have a lot of events that go on, but one of your big ones is the chamber breakfast.

I've gone to that a couple times.

You bring in some pretty big-time speakers.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Oh, yeah, we do.

We have so many different events and happening.

Something that is great for everyone because some people can make the morning events like we also have an Oshkosh connection breakfast.

We have an AM Oshkosh, which is wonderful.

What AM Oshkosh is more of

a networking group where you get to go behind the scenes at different larger companies and manufacturing companies.

We even went to the prison once.

That was very interesting.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Do you have a leadership Oshkosh program?

Green Bay has one, and I actually took that 25 years ago, but it really exposes you.

What

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

day

Jim Schmidt (host)

was that?

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

What year was that?

John Minow (host)

Somebody texted, Jim, I'm so looking forward to seeing you speaking at our Leadership Green Bay Conference next Tuesday.

And Jim goes, I think that's Wednesday.

Is that Tuesday?

I

Jim Schmidt (host)

was wondering why you said that.

That's just a great thing.

And if people can learn more about their community, I mean, your focus is your business.

You've got to make your business successful.

But there's so much.

else going on in the community?

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

With the leadership Oshkosh program, Trina Walt is amazing.

She's the lead for our leadership Oshkosh program.

We have quite a few programs with the leadership Oshkosh program.

We also just started a mindset, a leadership mindset program.

We have a lunch and lead that we have at the Oshkosh Country Club.

We have youth leadership.

So we start early and we keep them going and they are

true leaders of the Oshkosh Chamber.

I

John Minow (host)

just want to throw two other quick things so that we haven't mentioned that two cool things of Oshkosh.

I think one of the most underrated things is the Veterans Museum.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Yes.

John Minow (host)

I think that's awesome.

And we didn't mention a team that plays just down the street here at

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

the

John Minow (host)

Wisconsin Herd.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Oh my goodness.

Yes.

At venue works at the Wisconsin Herd, they are amazing.

Andy, who runs venue works there.

He has done an incredible job.

He just started a little over a little less than a year ago.

The Veterans Museum.

We're actually excited because next year I'm already booking all of our events for next year and we are going to be doing a business after hours at the Veterans

Jim Schmidt (host)

Museum.

That's always fun.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Yeah, they are great.

We do a lot with them as well.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Beautiful.

And I just want to say that you're Rena and I'm glad it's successful.

I know like a lot of businesses, you know, kind of.

It was tough to get going, but your events also support the community.

And I think that's pretty cool.

He did something for the homeless one time.

I think he did something for the veterans one time.

And I think that's great that they're so connected.

They're not just out on an island.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

You're absolutely right.

There's so many different things, and I apologize if I'm forgetting some of them, because there's so many we don't have time for.

Which is

Jim Schmidt (host)

great.

John Minow (host)

That's a great, that's

Jim Schmidt (host)

a great thing.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

But call me.

Call me, I'll have lunch with you and we'll talk.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Okay, we'll do that.

I just, two other things I just want to mention on the benefits that you offer there, I think a small business.

the prescription drug card, that's getting crazy with healthcare.

So I'm glad the chamber stepped up and said, look, maybe we can help you.

And the other thing I just want to say that's, I think it's kind of funny to see is the suit of discount.

You actually give business people discount on clothes.

And I think we all need that.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Well, when you said about the healthcare stuff too, with the chamber, when you join the chamber, you can have as minimum as two to 99 employees and you can get on our network health plan as well.

Jim Schmidt (host)

Nice.

That's an expense.

And you got to have those benefits

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

today, especially nowadays.

That's right.

Very good stuff.

This

John Minow (host)

is awesome what you're doing like this.

So we love coming down here.

We just love this building and we love what you guys do in downtown Oshkosh and all the things.

And you know what's cool though too?

You get the young group here like these two young men.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

We had

John Minow (host)

here and they're all in on so

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

they were amazing.

I was listening to they love

Jim Schmidt (host)

Oshkosh, too.

I mean, these guys are going to do this.

They're not getting any credit.

They just want to do it because they like biking.

They love Oshkosh.

You got to put this in your

John Minow (host)

radio voice to wrap this up.

OK, you say,

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

but we got to talk about splashing the summer.

OK, we'll talk about

John Minow (host)

that.

But then you got to send us to a break.

Connie Carmichael from Oshkosh Chamber

Oh, we'll be right back with my know in the mayor right after this.

Unknown Speaker 1

You've heard songs about truck drivers many times their stories told.

How they pulled out a pitch bird for six days on the road about the Feather River.

Hey, welcome back.

Come on in the mirror.

Come your way from your

Primary Host

WISS studios down here in Oshkosh.

I shouldn't say down here because this is part of our home turf here in Oshkosh.

This is part of our town too.

Beautiful morning out there.

A lot of sunshine 41 in Green Bay now 39 out in 42 in Oshkosh.

Once again, we got a free ticket Friday coming up on WISS and WGB.

starts tomorrow, win four tickets to a Milwaukee Brewers game.

We're joined right here, Connie Carmichael Oshkosh Chamber, talking about some of just the great things you guys do.

And you know what, you guys are just getting started for this year.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

Oh yeah, we never stop.

Unknown Speaker 2

But pretty cool, the business expo you have, the speakers, the networking opportunities.

We talked about all that stuff, but you also have things coming up.

Tell me about the splash into Oshkosh.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

Splash into summer.

Summer, okay, all right.

Yeah, let's let's just dive in.

Unknown Speaker 2

Oh, I got it.

All right, go ahead.

What is it?

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

So Splash in the Summer is our great membership drive, so to speak.

But what's great about this is that we're promoting Waterfest, the Waterfest concert series right here in downtown Oshkosh.

And which

Primary Host

which is one of the cool venues in Northeast Wisconsin.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

It is.

It is wonderful.

It's not only cool.

It's wet.

It's wild.

It's splashing around.

It really kicks off the summer concert series.

That's for sure.

So when you join the chamber, you receive, not only do you receive over $3,000 in benefits and savings, you also get 15 months for the price of 12 and drum roll, please.

There we go.

You

Unknown Speaker 2

get it, that's wow.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

That's enough

Unknown Speaker 2

drums.

It's timpani

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

roll.

Although you'll hear that at Waterfest.

But you also get two free complimentary VIP season passes to all of the Waterfest 2025.

Oh, that's cool.

Is your lineup up?

No,

Unknown Speaker 2

that's cool.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

Oh, well, starting things off is.

I

Primary Host

guess this is a yes.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

Yes, it is.

It starts June 19th and it is

Unbelievable.

We have hairball.

Hairball is kicking things off.

We have George Thurlgood coming.

Oh yeah.

Marsha Ball, Vic Ferrari.

Oh my gosh.

We have the producers, Steely Dan.

Oh my gosh.

So much more.

This is awesome.

You have to definitely go to waterfest.org to get the complete lineup.

And I think I got a little treat for some listeners toward the end of this program.

Do you want

Primary Host

me to introduce George Thurlgood?

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

You know one

Primary Host

baby one scotch one beer

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

so which one are you gonna have in your hand

Primary Host

all three

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

Wow

Unknown Speaker 2

that's quite a lineup talking about that earlier before we even got on the other morning about how

important that is to a community and to people to gather outside for a live concert.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

It is so fun.

People really get into it.

People dress in retro clothes.

They just have so much fun.

It's a great way to meet and greet people that you haven't seen in a while.

dancing, good music, kind of brings you, if you could go back in time, you know, it's such a fun time.

Unknown Speaker 2

You bring the food trucks into all this

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

too?

We do have food, we have food, we have beer, soda, you name it.

Primary Host

That's great.

All right.

And you can take it, take your boat there.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

And you can take your boat there because we are on the water still.

Unknown Speaker 2

So where do we get all this?

What's the, is it on the chamber's website or is that on Ashkosh?

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

You contact me, Connie at Ashkosh.

And I will hook you up.

That's great.

Unknown Speaker 2

Nice.

That's that's what

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

a good

Unknown Speaker 2

lineup.

Yeah.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

I'm so excited about George Thurgood.

It is amazing.

And I have to say, I don't

Unknown Speaker 2

know.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

Do you guys know how long Waterfest has been going on?

39 years.

So I was

Unknown Speaker 2

going to say, she told

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

us.

I did tell you.

And I have to say, I have to say some of the original, not the original songs and everything else, but some of the original players of Waterfest who.

Helped with this is Mike Dempsey.

A lot of people know Mike Dempsey.

Of course, Rob Clayman, our CEO and president.

John Casper, Chuck Hurdle.

I'm sure there's many more.

And we have a lot of great people, great staff.

Alice Roberts from the Chamber and Jeff McBride, who helped kick all these things off.

It is amazing if you haven't been here for Waterfest.

You have to check out all the restaurants and everything that are going on where you can walk, go out to eat and then go down to water fast.

Co-host/Secondary Host

Connie, so you've done some radio and TV.

I'm going to make you Vanna White now

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

because we

Co-host/Secondary Host

do have some prizes

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

to

Co-host/Secondary Host

give away this morning.

So tell us what we've got

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

for listeners.

So first prize is not two, but four.

season passes to the Waterfest Concert Series.

That's fantastic.

You don't have to be a member, but if you want to be a member, you'll get all the other benefits as well.

And a consolation prize, excuse me, a consolation prize is four VIP tickets to Hairball for the kickoff night.

Co-host/Secondary Host

Love it.

Love it.

So what we'll do right now is you can text the studio, download the Civic Media app right away, choose WISS or WGBW say, hey, I want the tickets and we will randomly choose somebody for the four season passes and somebody else to win the four VIP for hairball.

Absolutely.

Look at it.

She's like Vanna White.

She comes prepared.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

I'm even going to give you guys that you can use throughout the summer season.

I'll give you some free tickets for Waterfest as well.

Co-host/Secondary Host

We love you.

All right.

Perfect.

We'll do that.

We might

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

use them.

I can't give enough.

I can't give enough.

OK,

Primary Host

you

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

got

Primary Host

to do us one more favor then.

OK, hang on.

Co-host/Secondary Host

You're going to have her read something.

OK.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

Back with more.

Mino and the.

mayor after

Co-host/Secondary Host

this.

Nice.

I got about a minute.

Primary Host

Okay, another minute to go.

I'm just

Unknown Speaker 2

giving

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

a

Unknown Speaker 2

tease.

Primary Host

Absolutely.

So

Unknown Speaker 2

tell me, I want to just touch a little bit on the recruitment to get people, I mean, finding talent.

Do we have enough time?

What do you do for that?

To bring new employees, keep employees?

What do you do for the young talent?

We need to get them here.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

We have so much to offer.

It's a fun organization.

It's a great organization.

We help so many

people and businesses and the community.

If you love working with a great group of people.

Please contact me and I'll get you who you need to go to.

Primary Host

All right, you've been awesome.

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

You've been awesomer.

Primary Host

Next time we come to Oshkosh, you're coming back one way or another,

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

all right?

Sounds good to me.

Splash in the summer.

Primary Host

Don't forget about the thorough good intro.

Think about it.

I will.

Okay, thank you.

All right, you're the best.

Thank you so much for being here.

Thanks

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

for having me.

Primary Host

Connie, Carmichael, Oshkosh, Chamber,

Connie Carmichael (Oshkosh Chamber)

mind on the mare.

Woo, right after.

Come to

Unknown Speaker 1

this.

John Mino

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

Jim Schmidt

And

John Mino

here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

David Ruby

Yeah, it was a great show.

Thanks.

I love

Jim Schmidt

Jim.

John Mino

Good morning.

It's gonna be awesome.

David Ruby, hypnotist.

Work well, hypnosis.

How you doing?

Doing well.

Good to see you.

Thanks.

All right.

You are a certified hypnotist.

Yes.

And you said you have several certificates.

Like what, what, what, how many fields does a hypnotist?

Why do you have several certificates?

David Ruby

Because I couldn't stop at one training.

I had to basically keep going.

My wife would say that I'm a bit compulsive in that regard, where if I have an interest in something, I keep doing it.

So I initially took hypnosis as interest.

Well, can I give my origin story, the brief version?

John Mino

Yeah, absolutely.

David Ruby

So I was a medical librarian.

People, when they say, do your research, that was me.

I worked in a hospital for 11 and a half years.

I had a degree in research.

Teaching background before that and I would just research things so for doctors and physical therapists and stuff.

I think that sounds pretty cool Yeah, you're correct sir.

Yeah, so I was learning about that stuff and I I was a skeptic of hypnosis I thought it was again we see on TV waving pocket watches people's faces.

I'm click like chickens right a lot at least once today I got asked and I was curious about I thought it's probably nothing but I can research it I'm pub med Jackie I'll go on there and see what the research says

And when I found it, it was useful for things.

Well, that's cool.

Then I had read an account where it was used for surgical anesthesia.

Wow.

So at a certain point in history, you go back far enough, they didn't have anesthesia.

Right.

If you had surgery, you had to basically

Suck it up and hope you didn't get sepsis or going to shock and die

John Mino

and you hate to say but the term bite the bullet comes from military

David Ruby

guys getting

John Mino

up and they would literally do that

David Ruby

Yeah, I mean there their second thing was like here drink a lot of alcohol and hopefully right you know in okay in In Italy

John Mino

world this is an earnest Hemingway's book for whom the bell told you that one or the other about that when he's an ambulance driver and Italy whatever and they got wounded and they were sort of and I said they were using grappa

as an anesthetic to just numb the pain a little bit.

That's what they were reduced to, so go

David Ruby

ahead.

Yeah, I was an English teacher, so I actually remember that book.

Oh, you remember that?

Yeah.

Yeah, great book.

Yeah.

Big Hemingway fan as a side.

John Mino

But I researched.

You're proud that I've read all the Hemingway books?

She didn't read.

David Ruby

I read every

John Mino

Hemingway book there is.

I bought the yellow book.

David Ruby

But I was

John Mino

never

all that impressed with any of the movies.

Were you?

I don't know if I've seen any Hemingway movies.

Yeah.

Not if you read the books.

David Ruby

Big let down.

What a segue.

Yeah.

Anyway, so.

Who knew what this is going the structure

John Mino

we go all over

David Ruby

I gotta

John Mino

be honest with you.

I love it

David Ruby

Okay, I knew back to the the story for the visitors.

I was so I went on PubMed and essentially when I found it was useful for a surgical anesthesia I'm like, well, you can't fake that.

I mean, you know getting your you know, open heart surgery your appendix out.

Yeah, you know a leg getting cut off.

Yeah, feel no pain So that's how I got into it.

So essentially I learned of it just as a hobby and then

I was told, well, you can, you know, do this as a job, essentially, and help people.

And people are getting hit most either they're just curious about the mind and or they want to help people and or they want to dominate the world, which is not how it works.

Or else I'd have a better car, I suppose.

But so I I started taking classes and I got it just took an online class and like from a trainer who's actually well known now.

And then I took I took in person trainings at hitting with thoughts live in Vegas, where I'm actually speaking in a couple months.

and so are a lot of other people.

So I got certifications from different organizations, different classes, and essentially once you know it, it's like a skill.

It's like building cabinets, not literally, but you have a skill, you know how to do an induction, know how to guide people and to make changes.

Then you learn more different styles, different approaches for different conditions or different personality types, being able to kind of deal with how they do the problem.

So I was curious so essentially I could have stopped years ago and save myself lots of time and money But I was curious so and also if I'm gonna take someone's money and potentially impact their life in some way hopefully good I wanted to be good at I didn't want to just like take a class get a certification be done.

So I that's why the many certifications

John Mino

So you're not like an entertainer you actually are

One-on-one, you tell people what, lose weight, stop biting their nails.

What kind of things do you hypnotize people?

I

know a guy that smoked for 50 years had lung cancer, still wouldn't stop smoking.

And this was, what was it called, hypnosis?

That's the only thing that got him

to stop smoking.

And so for a guy that I know who was smoking camels with throat cancer for something to finally make him stop, this was it.

David Ruby

How

John Mino

does that happen?

David Ruby

Magic.

It depends on the person to answer your question first.

So weight loss and well, every hypnotist will get asked, can you help me to lose weight, quit smoking, or will you make me click like a chicken?

Okay.

And it's yes, yes.

And I never actually try.

Actually, my friend Pete wanted me to make him click like a chicken.

I'm like, we'll see.

If you can't

John Mino

get him to stop that.

David Ruby

Okay.

Not how it works.

But yeah, that's.

But so weight loss and smoking are kind of the bread and butter of the industry.

Um, nail biting phobias, fears and phobias.

Um, let's see.

Basically anything you can feel think or behavior you can change so People

John Mino

have the biggest fear is speaking in public.

David Ruby

Yeah, can something like this help them?

Absolutely Okay, and just to kind of break that down So if you have a fear of and this is the same to for athletes to that I'd like a fear or they have like anxiety around a match I work the athletes a lot too.

That's when my my niches

So if you are a fear of public speaking, well, you have either you picture a crowd a certain way where it's intimidating, maybe they're gigantic and they're staring at you, usually unfriendly.

Or if you tell yourself, I'm going to suck at this, which don't.

But you know, people do something that where they have like a feeling in their stomach and you can change that with hypnosis or NLP is another related field called neuro linguistic programming.

You can change how they represent that.

So your brain has to do something to give you that feeling.

So if you have a fear of public speaking, your brain is doing something to let you know, oh,

I should be afraid of this.

Now, you, you, hypnotists will figure out like what they, I mean, it depends on the hypnotist, but what I do is, how do you, how do you have that fear?

You know, is it, what do you imagine your mind, you know, is it something you're picturing, you're telling yourself, do you have a sense of, is there a feeling, is there a movement in your stomach?

You know, you can, once you know what's going on there, then you start to work with it.

You can also just essentially ask the unconscious mind to do something more productive.

You know, you thank it for what it's doing.

because anything we do, whether we like it or not, it's, it's done for a reason.

It's done because it worked at some point or else your brain would do something different.

You know, our brains are not stupid.

So you essentially, I want to thank the unconscious mind for what it's trying to do, but let's do something different.

John Mino

Okay, you talked about sports.

I remember a couple of guys to disguise specifically, I remember, and they talked about this because there are two guys, major league baseball players that couldn't throw a ball.

Steve Sax was one, Chuck Knoblock was the other, both major league players, and they developed some kind of a phobia.

They couldn't throw a ball from here through that door.

It was all over the place, and they received help from someone like you.

What did you, you know what I mean?

What would you put in their mind where something they've done since they were what, three years old and never thought of, and now all of a sudden, they couldn't do it because they were overthinking it?

David Ruby

Yeah, so you can do things to quiet their mind.

You can look at, like, what are they doing?

Like, what's going on whenever they have, you know, what's triggering it, what are they doing?

So essentially, you ferret that out.

And then it's based on them.

So it's based on that individual person, how they're doing the problem.

And then you can essentially change how they do that.

You have them, you know, you can do it with hypnotic trance.

We call it where they go into like a traditional sort of hypnotic trance approach.

And then you have their unconscious mind do something different.

You can also have them just kind of practice like it's a matter of course how they think of it You know, what are they looking at?

How do they?

Imagine that scenario happening and then you have them imagine something better You can also have can I give you

John Mino

one of those and tell me if this is the same thing Yeah, and this was a guy who was a former major league baseball player and he now speaks about thing and what his person somebody like exactly like you Okay, what they told because he was going up against this picture that could throw like a hundred miles an hour And it was this huge game and everything and what the guy had put in his mind

You're the tiger.

He's a sheep.

You're better than he is.

Even if your mind says he is, you step up to the plate.

You're the tiger.

He's a sheep and you're going to devour him.

And he says, no matter what happens, that's going to happen.

And he says, that was his mindset, which he would take to the plate every single time versus what it would have been otherwise.

Oh, crap.

I just hope I get my bat on the ball.

I hope I don't get embarrassed.

I hope I don't.

You know what I mean?

And that made such a difference for him.

Something like

David Ruby

that.

That's a facet.

So having that mindset changes how you respond.

So if you have that mindset, oh, I don't know if I can do this.

I hope I can at least hit the ball in the back.

Exactly.

Right.

As opposed to I'm going to destroy this.

This ball is going to like, it's going to be this center, you know, this is integrated and it's going to fly across.

You know, that changes how your body, your mind believes you and you tell it things.

But

John Mino

what's the difference in that was a pep talk versus hypnosis?

What, what, how do you alter the subconscious?

David Ruby

Yes.

So the difference with hypnosis is sticking power.

And if you do that, if you have, if you give yourself a pep talk enough times and you start to believe it, like that, that can be hypnotic.

Okay.

So like hypnosis, one of the things that we use as an example is if you ever drive your car.

So you drive.

That was the question.

So if you, if you draw.

He's deep.

I know.

Well, but if you drive your

John Mino

car, we're expecting such an easy question from you.

David Ruby

Let's be honest.

Well, yeah, the hard stuff.

Yes.

Right.

But if you drive your car, you don't have to think about moving your hands.

You don't have to think about like, you know, your foot in the gas pedal, you know, you just do it.

So Gnosis is similar to that.

So if you have a question, you've gotten on this track, but Gnosis is similar.

Like what Gnosis is, you could describe it Gnosis as being absorbed and focused in something.

If you read a book, you're looking at scribbles on a piece of paper and you're imagining very rich things.

You know, you're imagining, you know, sights and sounds and smells, tastes and feels.

So that's, hypnosis kind of uses what your brain already does.

So the difference between like a pep talk and hypnosis is probably that you, you imagine it more vividly.

You give your unconscious mind, you can future pacing do things so that it becomes how you naturally do things.

So the trigger that led that baseball player.

I hope I can get the ball on the bat.

As opposed to that trigger means I'm gonna kill it.

This guy is a sheep, I'm a lion, I'm gonna devour this guy.

I put it in the sky, I can do it.

That becomes how you think.

So I think a good hypnotist will probably want to condition that in so it's not just like you tell them once.

It's that you future pace that so every time you get to the bat, you get to the base, you see the guy on the mound, this program clicks in.

John Mino

So it goes to a different layer than just that superficial pep talk, correct?

David Ruby

Yeah.

And a pep talk can be hypnotic.

If you have a good coach that it has you in a moment where you have buy and you have their attention and you give that, that message, like you are going to be the best ball player ever.

And that clicks in every fall, that moment where someone says something and it has an impact.

That's essentially that's probably every bit of hypnotic is any suggestion I would make.

It's just like in a more naturalistic.

Jim

John Mino

told me I sucked one time.

I've never gotten over it.

Well, I tell them that every day.

That's

probably been all this.

I just want to get, do you, I've given those talks to people, look them in the eye and hold their shoulders and say, look, man, you can do this, but I don't know that that's hypnotic.

Do you get them like ready?

What about the pocket watch?

I mean, I want to make funny, but I just, how do you get them into the,

Jim Schmidt

I will just say this, hearing him talk.

When he was telling you know how this works, I'm doing all this imagining and I'm following along.

So I don't know.

I'm just

David Ruby

saying I think

Jim Schmidt

his presentation is is hit not

David Ruby

okay.

Well, I have been doing this for 13 years.

I have 13 years.

I think this point.

So I like to think I'm pretty decent at it.

But to answer your question, you do things like you get.

I mean, some of the stuff will have cross over like with your coach, essentially.

So a good coach could be like a great hypnotist if they learn the stuff.

But

So in like in a session with an actual person, I will report them, you know, start to like see how they, you know, you have a talk, so you're having like a conversation.

You see how they, how they operate, you know, what are their modalities, so to speak.

And then, you know, for most hypnotists, you do an induction where you get them to go into hypnotic trance and the uptime stuff is different for the hypnotists out there if they're not listening.

We're

John Mino

going to have to send her a quick break.

We want to pick it up as soon as we get back.

David Ruby

We've only got a million questions.

We're going to

John Mino

have 10 minutes to come back.

So, Jim, you're going to take it from there.

But I think the athletic part.

I'd love to just because I know there's so many people listening who are kids in sports and whatever.

That's

pretty close.

I want to hypnotize them into being confident.

So

many people are like, I can't do this.

Yes, you can.

Back after this with the tremendous man, David Ruby.

Eric (host)

I was out on the West Coast trying to make a buck.

And things didn't work out.

Hey, welcome back.

My name is Eric.

Coming away

Jim (co-host)

from our studios in Oshkosh at WIS.

We're with David Ruby.

Work well, hypnosis.

This is some fascinating stuff.

And I'm sorry we only have another 10 minutes or so, because I want to get, I would like, love to talk about the type of athletes you deal with.

But, Jim, you got a bunch of really good questions.

Well, I just want to know,

Unidentified (co-host or contributor)

you have a private practice.

I want to, yeah.

Do people come to you?

Do they get referred to you?

Tell me about...

You're right here on Main Street in Oshkosh Tribal Main Street and you solo practice you said the partner partnership?

David Ruby (guest)

Yeah, so I've had a practice for I think it's been 11 years now.

I was I was a Fox 5 hypnosis until COVID hit then we went virtual because you couldn't see people in person.

And then I was Dave Ruby hypnosis and my wife had a practice she got hypnosis kind of later than I did.

She'd been doing it for I think I think three years now give or take I lose track of time.

I think it's been three years she's been doing hypnosis and she had her own practice and we thought, well, we might as well combine it and swerve well hypnosis.

And we've had that for, I think about a year and a half.

That's been our business name is a joint practice.

Unidentified (co-host or contributor)

So what's the most common request you get?

I call you on the phone.

Is it the confidence thing?

Is it the sports?

Is it snakes?

I mean, why do people call you and will you take anyone?

Tell me about, I want to learn more about you.

David Ruby (guest)

Yeah, weight loss and smoking are probably the most common.

Anxiety is another one.

I do see athletes.

I like to see athletes.

I work with school.

I'm a student athlete.

I've worked with amateurs as well.

People are more adult.

Otherwise, it's weird things, like things that they don't know who else to talk to.

Right.

So it could be relationship issues.

I've had a few of those.

It could be fears of driving, it could be nail picking, things like that.

Jim (co-host)

And I hate to say this.

Don't take this the wrong way, but it's what I'll think sometimes where people are like, I've tried everything else.

I might as well try this.

How dare you

Unidentified (co-host or contributor)

say

David Ruby (guest)

no, I was thinking it I just no no you can ask me anything I don't care I'm not easily funded.

It's either there like this is literally the last thing You know, I've tried everything else.

That's probably pretty common or it's people who are I'm always surprised like yeah, I know I believe this works entirely I was a skeptic so I'm always like I'm happy to explain why this works.

Here's your

Jim (co-host)

skeptic.

David Ruby (guest)

Oh, yeah before I got into this

So I kind of expect people would be, but there are people who come there.

They have total buy-in and it hit no birthing.

And I use hypnosis to manage this when I was younger.

And

Unidentified (co-host or contributor)

are you someone that people would go see and pick something but fear flying?

Yes.

Is it a one session?

Is it 10 sessions?

David Ruby (guest)

How?

It depends.

So some things are more like smoking tends to be more binary.

Like we have a smoking package because there's a guarantee with it.

Wow.

But with smoking, usually people, they're like the quitter they don't, right?

Yeah, either most people think I'm a smoker or I'm not a smoker.

Weight loss is different because you can't stop eating.

There's a lifestyle change for phobias, fears, anxieties.

There can be layers.

So sometimes one is done, one or two sessions.

There have been clients who are like, I'll be seeing this person for a while.

And after one or two sessions, like, I'm good.

Thanks.

It was great.

Nice meeting you.

Other things I'm like, oh, man.

One session this I nailed it.

This is amazing.

They're like, yeah, I need some more work, you know, because they're layers.

It doesn't mean it didn't work.

It means that, you know, it it's like adding, you know, like weight to a scale.

If your problem is 100 pounds of, so to speak, metaphorically, and hypnosis does 85 pounds.

That's a huge shift.

But the scale doesn't move until it's balanced out.

OK, make sense.

Yeah.

Unidentified (co-host or contributor)

Contacting.

your practice, you have a website or something that we can, I'd be interested to learn more about you.

And I don't know, I've got a few things I could come and see about.

Gina (text/communication from Eric's partner)

So let's share that, Jim.

Let's dig into that.

These

Unidentified (co-host or contributor)

guys will laugh when

Gina (text/communication from Eric's partner)

I tumble on.

I don't

Unidentified (co-host or contributor)

think there's anything

David Ruby (guest)

wrong

Unidentified (co-host or contributor)

with seeing a therapist.

Take your

David Ruby (guest)

shoes off, lead on.

Well, I think hypnosis is you're learning to use your mind, to work with your mind.

So there's nothing wrong with it.

I mean, I think that that's a skill.

Everyone could and arguably should have it doesn't mean things wrong.

It means you're you want to like you want to get the most out of your mind out of your life

Jim (co-host)

Okay, one last thing I want to ask you about the athlete part because that's can you tell me the type of athlete you deal with?

I mean, I'm just not asking for specifics But the type of athlete that would come to you.

No

David Ruby (guest)

Yeah, yeah, so most of people tend to They come to me because they either they have some issue they want to overcome or they just want to get amazing at it

So either like I had a one one client who Actually two quick story one client.

He had a wrestler He had someone he had lost to and he was nervous about this guy and both were great wrestlers and So he was just anxious and wanted to like just really beat the sky But he was nervous and so he viewed this guy.

These are like middle school kids, too So not huge.

We

Gina (text/communication from Eric's partner)

viewed

David Ruby (guest)

like it was like Brock Lesnar or something like you know, okay He had this visual this guy and he would tell himself things that were not helpful

and he would get feelings of nervousness.

So you address those individually.

Another wrestler who was anxious about wrestling, he would just be like a nervous wreck before match.

He would still win.

He was built like a tank, you know, a really nice kid.

He would be very nervous.

And after the first session, his coach had to go and like literally like kick him gently, kick him away to like, you know, because he was napping between matches like, Hey, your match is over.

You got to go get there.

And he was super chill.

And we found out his coaches and parents didn't know this, but he wasn't anxious about wrestling.

He was anxious about everything.

And after one session, that was essentially gone.

We did two sessions just to kind of consolidate the work.

I'm excited to know that it worked so well.

But he was, he was nervous about his job, his parents, schools, girlfriend.

And

Jim (co-host)

I

David Ruby (guest)

would think

Jim (co-host)

correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Two minutes.

Correct me if I'm wrong, a coach could tell him that, a parent could tell them that, a teammate could tell them that, but coming from somebody like you that's a little bit outside of his circle of influence or whatever you like to call it, I would think him taking that like, ooh, okay.

This guy doesn't have any other motives versus my teammates or my mom or my dad telling me these things, whereas you are a little bit more objective on the outside.

I would think they would take that deeper.

True.

David Ruby (guest)

Yes, and I'm also speaking to them differently.

I'm speaking to their unconscious mind.

I'm doing things to like, not just give them a pep talk, but to let them like practice what that's going to be like to live that way.

So when they walk into a match or they walk into a meeting at their job or whatever, they imagine it very differently.

They see themselves doing something differently.

They're able to practice being different way.

Jim (co-host)

This is fascinating stuff.

Gina (text/communication from Eric's partner)

Your wife just texted into the show.

Gina.

Yes.

Yep.

What's the website for people who would like to get involved?

Thanks, hon.

David Ruby (guest)

So that website is workwellhypnosis.com.

What is it?

Workwellhypnosis.com.

OK, Workwell.

Right here in Oshkosh.

Yes.

Yeah, we do see people in person on 507 North Main Street, Oshkosh.

We also see people on Zoom.

Jim (co-host)

Let's stay this has been I could talk to you for two hours, but you'd get really annoyed because I'd keep asking about different things that I Maybe you could

Unidentified (co-host or contributor)

get you to how

Jim (co-host)

could I be a better radio guy?

Let

David Ruby (guest)

me

Jim (co-host)

work well hypnosis.

You're awesome.

This has been great

David Ruby (guest)

having you here.

Yeah, thank you very much.

Appreciate

Jim (co-host)

it.

Thank you

Eric (host)

quick break back

Jim (co-host)

up

Eric (host)

was pouring down I was hungry and freezing done caught a chill

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139 42 in the whole area high in the mid to upper 50s today by a beautiful beautiful sunshiney day by the way Congratulations to Dave from Oshkosh winner of four season passes for waterfest. All right Dave. That's a big bleep and prize and then Greg from Appleton for VIP passes for hairball at waterfest. Those are cool. Although I will say this

Um, it'd be great to have VIP passes. Yes. But something else that's very cool there is that a nice night sitting on the hillside having that music come up at you. That ain't a bad setting either. Is it Pat? They're all good. Welcome to Waterfest in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. Oh my gosh. Is he joining us? We are so excited. Waterfest. You just took my breath away. Yeah. They're all good. They're all good. Lover boy. Yes. Steely Dan. Yeah.

Kate Voss in the hot sauce. Oh, we love Kate. Our own our own local our own local artist and she's been on our show before. Absolutely music segment. Guys, welcome to spring in Oshkosh. I know, right? It's nice, buddy. Pat Tracy would discover Oshkosh. You have a compliment. I don't know if you were listening earlier, but we had Connie on here. Connie, Connie Carmichael from the chamber. Yes. And we're telling her that look, we think Oshkosh has it going on and a couple of respects, right? And she.

So I think that's pretty cool that the chambers, sometimes chambers take all the credit. I mean, it's pretty cool that she shared.

just the tourism and fun organization for like the whole city. And that's just because Amy, our leader has just like embraced it. And we're like, we are committed to making Oshkosh fun for visitors and residents. But you know what the cool part is, you got like these young kids here from Oshkosh, these young gentlemen from Oshkosh North High School, 16, 17, 15 years old, and they're taking the picking up the gauntlet already and leading things that.

could last for the next 40 years. How cool is that? Yes, yes. Your own homegrown talent. And give credit to the social studies teacher too for teaching his kids leadership skills besides just the X's and O's of social studies, you know. And I just think that you, yeah, you made a good point. I think you're all in it together. And I think that's really, really, really important. Yes, yes. So this weekend, fellas is...

possibly the most important day of the year, Mother's Day. Oh yeah, oh yeah, that would be. And so I want to invite all the mothers and families in Northeast Wisconsin to join us at the Pain Arts Center and Gardens in beautiful Oshkosh because it's free admission on Mother's Day.

The tulips are blooming. It is incredible. There's literally thousands of tulips in every possible color. And so moms and families, if you are out and about, just stop by the Pain Arts Center this Sunday for free admission. If you're busy this Sunday with your mom activities next Saturday, I want to say that's the 17th, is the Pain Annual Festival of Spring.

which is another free day to get into the pain, but then right across the street from the pain are like 60 artisans, plant sale, flowers, everything. So we've got a Sunday and a Saturday here in Oshkosh that if you have not been to the pain recently, you should come down and see it. That sounds great. Yeah, that Mother's Day. You got to do something special. You better do something special. But I mean, that's the busiest day on the phone, which I think is appropriate, right? I mean, you should call your mother. But yeah, that's a cool thing to do. Yes. Yeah, I

I'll see my mother gets a little tougher one in her 90s. It's like yeah, yeah Mom to the pain That's not that didn't you correct me if I'm wrong last time we were here. Didn't you bring her some of the cheesecake or something? That's it's gonna be it's gonna be that's I'm gonna get just mom. Just want to stay home and watch the Brewers game. Oh, she's maybe Chocolate, I mean chocolate. You have the best chocolate down here in Oshkosh, too. So all right, so how are Joe siruji just

Oh, yeah, no. I said, gosh, no. Did you hear that? OK, I'm just he's got the best gosh. He's got the best chocolate down here. I would not know. I'm not going to I'm not going to bite the handed feeds. I know, Joe, Joe's really good to me. So anyway, what else? Oh, my gosh. Can I tell you what I did this week? I did all right, Pat. I was on Monday afternoon. I was out with Cruz and Tiki's Ashkosh.

It's a little Tiki boat. Yeah, we had them on last summer here. Oh my gosh. Yeah, we had this on. So Captain Joe and Tammy, I've known them literally the whole time I've been in Oshkosh. Captain Joe, when I moved here 30 years ago, was the captain of the Pioneer Princess. I remember the Pioneer Princess. Absolutely. Young Joe was the captain. I remember going on there with the Wisconsin team competition, whatever it was, all the candidates. Yes, yes, they used to come every year. Yes. So I was a featured speaker and one of the judges.

at their lunch and what do you think about that? It's kind of interesting. Interesting choice. Inspiring John. So Captain Joe invited us to come out and we took a little crew out there. The boat holds six people for the cruise. Joe does a two hour cruise. And so we went out and filmed an episode of Why I Love Lashkosh. On Monday afternoon it was stunning. It was 65 out on the water. And so what I wanted to share with with the community today is

the cruising Tiki's Ashkosh, they're like wide open for bookings in May. Right. Right. Now they start getting busy in June and July. But if you ever are looking for a fun thing to do and you've got six people, it's like it's 300 bucks. Right. For the two hours. And the way they do it is you meet them at the Fox River Brewery.

Right on the Fox River. Sure. You can have a beverage there or get a snack. You bring your own beverages out under the tea. Oh, nice. Super fun. And then they take you for a half an hour down the river for sightseeing. And then you come back up, you get off, maybe hit the restroom.

Whatever you need to do and then you take another hour and you go toward the beautiful more bridge, which is really cool You know usually you only see that if you're a fisherman or something and like you were talking about you see the bridge from the water. It's yeah Anyway, I cannot work in the green bay itself and the only time I've experienced it is on fishing trips or maybe one time with the old foxy lady type thing But at night the skyline of Green Bay is really cool But you don't really see it unless you're on the water. It's too bad that some people

live on the water and never see their city from the water, because that's an awesome view. And when you drive over, you just have a different respect for it, a different look at it. We use the river pretty quick. It looks big. Yeah, it is. And it's a lot of fun. I thought that was really cool when he said you could bring your own beverages and food. Yeah, it keeps it simple and super fun. The neat thing about the Tiki is

It's small enough so that when the fishing boats and the big boats go by, you get some amazing swell action. And it was just, I mean, we had two hours of nonstop fun. That sounds great. I'd love to try that. Yeah. So, oh my gosh, you just said the magic word. Yeah. Let's get John on cruise and Tiki's with Captain Joe. Let's do it there. Life preservers. Yes. Coast guard. Coast guard required. They do. Oh my gosh. What if we could? Oh, what if we could go out like for a morning cruise? Oh, that would be fun. I mean.

That'd be beautiful. That'd be phenomenal. That probably wouldn't be as busy either. Man, there's sun coming up over the water right here. This morning was spectacular. But look at all the fishing out here. I mean.

Jim, this boat, this river is busy all the time. The fish are literally jumping out of the Fox River here in Oshkosh. Okay, now you're lying, but go ahead. Go ahead. You know when you have to corral him back in a little bit. What else you got going on here in Oshkosh? A little bit of everything. Oh my gosh. Okay, you guys are going to flip when you hear this. Okay. I am going in to do a one. No, no, no. I know what I wanted to say to you first. Tell me. Congratulations to one of your, one of Todd's favorite places for being correct me from Ryan.

Dive bar of the country for the year because that current garage bar like Pete's Pete's. Yeah, absolutely. I mean that got national news did

That's awesome. Pete just got his letter yesterday from our congressman congratulating him on his... Glenn growthman. Glenn growthman. I mean that was a national story I saw. It was. Yeah boy now he's got a letter from Glenn. Yeah he's got a letter he's gonna frame it up put it in the bar. Did you get one for the former mayor of Green Bay? I'm sure your mayor sent you one but that is quite an honor because we make fun of guy bars and yet

This guy's parlayed that into like, you know what? This huge attraction, especially here in Wisconsin because we've embraced it. It's like a cultural touchstone for the rest of America to come and get a glimpse into being a Wisconsinite. Exactly. That was very aggressive. Anyway, so we're taking it to the next level. I'm doing one day. Interrupt. I interrupted. John, John, you're going to want to hear this. I'm going to make brats.

with Ruben at Wagner Market. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, Ruben Hernandez. He doesn't just make brats. He events them. I know. He's a creator. He's an artist. Oh, yeah. So Jim doesn't like them. The trip. The trip.

Is it a tripe? No, it's a tripe. Tripe! Oh, it's got... A broth's tripe. Tripes! No, no, no. Not the stomach. Not tripe. Okay. It's called tripe, and it's a sausage, but it has sauerkraut in the sausage. Built into it. And it's called tripe. Okay. And I like sauerkraut on a broth, but I don't like... It was dry or something. I just did... Maybe I got a bad one.

But I only had one in my life. I don't know. And you didn't get it from there. This was someplace else. No, no, no, no. This is probably Illinois. I'll try one of yours. But yeah. So I so I've been eating a few brats so far. I've done the Teriyaki pineapple. Nice, which is kind of amazing. The mac and cheese brought. Nice. The all time favorite, though. Number one, I think the beer and cheese brought. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Unbelievable.

So I'm going in, I think it's next Wednesday. I'm going into the little room in the middle of the Wagner market, right? It's like a little sanitary operating room in there. And they're going to show me how you put the stuff in and the sausage. Like I am going to literally be making the sausage. And that's going to be one of your shows. That's going to be one of our shows. Awesome. I want to say this because nothing's better than on a Saturday afternoon or a Sunday and you're like, you know what, I want to grill out. Do you drive down?

to Main Street, right? You stop in, you grab whatever you're going to throw on the grill, brats, steaks or whatever. Side salads, you want, you know, some coleslaw, you want, they've got it all right there. It's just, it's actually quite incredible. And Todd, you failed to mention the 400 different kinds of beer in 400 kinds. There's so much beer in there, like it's

It's pretty fun, John. You guys don't do anything. No, they don't. They don't. You do it right. Wow. Yeah. So we've been doing brats. I also did a weekend internship with Sunken Paddle Ciderworks. I love them, too. These are two young guys. Oh, my God, we should get them in here because they're like, remember Ian from Fifth Ward? Yeah, that was great. These are another cut from the same cloth. But crazier.

Oh my gosh, put crazier. These guys are a little crazy. Yeah. All right. We'll take them there. So they make they make cider and it's they call it like proper cider like people from Europe would call it proper cider. What's happened in America is the cider that's in the cans in the stores. Yeah, super sweet. Yeah, these guys make a dry cider. It's almost like a like a Pinot Grigio. Some of it is like a wine and my wife, Dawn, who doesn't like a lot of stuff.

He loves the cider. He's pointing for the word. Does it like us? Go ahead. All right. Well, that's cool. Is that apple cider? No. So it's apple cider. Is that alcohol? Is there alcohol? Oh, yeah. 5% alcohol. And they've got a cider pressing. It's called an urban nano cidery. It's like a little tiny cidery. The bar is like in a garage about as big as our studio here. There's like 10 chairs in there. And you're literally like.

in the cidery, all the equipment's there in the vats. Where is it? I'd love to see it. Right over here. It's on 17th Street. Oh, gosh, it's so cool. There's a couple of breweries who added that product line. Yes. But is there like, OK, so there are different types of cider? Do they have what you come there? Here's the cider. No, so they have like 10 different kinds. And they have made some some Apple brandy that's available. And now.

they're taking their cider to the next level with cider cocktails. Oh, OK. Really? And correct me if I'm wrong, but there's a lot of things about cider that's good for you, I guess, for your heart. Oh, my gosh.

Their base cider has 900 heirloom apple varieties in it. It's like elixir of life. We got 30 seconds and we'll come back. Elixir of life. Wow. We'll be back with the elixir of life.

Jim

On the road again.

Just can't wait to get on the road.

Radio Host

Hey, welcome back.

What are the mayor coming your way from WSS Studios in Oshkosh?

And of course WGBW in Green Bay.

We're here with Pat Tracy.

The what do we call him?

The new Nick the elixir elixir of life.

Pat Tracy

Elixir of life.

That's correct.

I've discovered proper cider at sunken paddle cider works.

Todd

That sounds

Pat Tracy

great.

Don't forget

Todd

Don texted

Pat Tracy

in.

Free samples free samples at Sunken.

So the fun of the cider the cidery is is that it's a different kind of cider than you've probably ever had.

You know, it's it's is that a word.

Cidery.

Cidery.

It's called a Cidery.

It's called a Cidery.

That was part

Todd

of our promotion.

The top craft picks.

Pat Tracy

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

And so this like you would see this on the West Coast like this is super Uber hipster.

Right.

West Coast Cidery urban nano.

But I love it.

Doug and Spencer are so much fun at the Cidery.

They're it's basically like like a garage.

It's in a neighborhood and you come in, you get free samples.

They've got 10 or 12 different flavors of cider, all amazing and all local.

So they'll get their apples and then they get raspberries from like somebody over by a Monomony Park has raspberries in their backyard.

So they get a couple bushels of them, throw them in the apples and now they've got a raspberry tea cider.

That's Don's favorite.

Radio Host

So does the OK.

Does the cider ferment itself or is it alcohol infused?

How does that

Pat Tracy

work?

No, it ferments itself.

Okay.

They ferment the cider.

Okay.

Yep.

Yep.

Okay.

So next time you guys are here, we're bringing cider.

Maybe we can get even Doug and Spencer out here.

That'd be great.

That'd be fantastic because it's it's really fun.

So we have now taken to going over so they're only open.

You should be aware Fridays and Saturdays because these guys have day jobs.

our role as Wisconsinites is to buy so much of their cider that they can eventually leave their day jobs.

Radio Host

You know, we can't figure out right.

And now we can't now we know now now I think I've figured certain things out.

Why Todd will get up at three o'clock in the morning and drive an hour to go to work in Green Bay and drive home.

And the reason he doesn't want to leave Oshkosh.

Because I think he's got his stuff and grounds down here because every every little place you mentioned

Pat Tracy

something.

Radio Host

I've been here.

Pat Tracy

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Friday.

I was there.

Yeah.

We have never talked about a place that Todd has not.

I don't care

Radio Host

what you mentioned.

And you know, oh, yeah, they got this one craft beer that I really like.

Yeah.

Todd

Did you grow up in Ashkosh, Todd?

South of town.

OK.

Yep.

But I've lived here several times, you know.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah.

I just I like it here.

I really, really do.

I'm very proud of this town.

I like where we're at as far as the progressive nature of it, the young people doing great things, like all the businesses we talk about, right?

We're kind of forward thinking down here.

And we're not a big city, but we have some of the things that the cities have and the events.

I mean, how you listen, if you're ever bored in this city,

Pat Tracy

you're nuts.

You're nuts.

Hey, so if I can do a quick public service announcement, the skies over Oshkosh next week will be filled with 100 small airplanes as the flying schools, the universities across the U.S.

that offer degrees in aviation.

So there's like 30 of them.

If you want to be an airport director or a commercial airline pilot, you typically go.

go to an aviation.

You know, we have our

Tracy

traffic control.

Maybe a few jobs in Newark right now.

Radio Host

Yeah, right.

But our last year, we had a kid on a young person.

I shouldn't say kid.

I'm also from Middle Tennessee State, where their booth real close

Jim

to where Jim and I were.

Yes.

Radio Host

And talking about that, it's like, who would think Middle Tennessee State is huge for aerodynamics?

Pat Tracy

It's huge.

So all.

So we've got a hundred students competing in their annual safe con.

and they will fly their airplanes, which are like little Cessna's and

Radio Host

Piper's.

Pat Tracy

They will all descend on Oshkosh starting on the 12th, right?

So next week, and they'll be flying around doing maneuvers and testing for their competition.

So it's not open to the public, but if we're in Oshkosh, we're going to see a lot of aerial activity.

Tracy

Wow, that's really cool.

That's very cool.

Yes, that's nice to use that.

facility too for other like that's just oh

Pat Tracy

yeah

Tracy

business we were talking earlier about there's some facilities in Green Bay that we could maybe leverage a little bit more

Pat Tracy

yes you

Tracy

guys are smart

Pat Tracy

with the waterfront

Tracy

with the waterfront and yeah

Pat Tracy

hey let's open let's put a restaurant Lambo Field Monday through Friday

Radio Host

we're trying to bring the banana guys

Tracy

oh

Radio Host

man

Pat Tracy

Savannah

we're going to bring them to play a minor league teams or who do they play themselves kind of they're a little bit harmful to others.

Yes.

Radio Host

They have their own

Tracy

opponents

Pat Tracy

that

Tracy

travel with them.

And they are funny and they are entertaining.

Radio Host

They're so huge.

Two

Tracy

hours

Radio Host

and yes.

They're.

Oh my god.

Tracy

But.

They go on 60 minutes, and it's like, oh, let's bring these guys here.

How many other people said that?

Radio Host

I wish we would have got them.

Anyway, do you

Pat Tracy

want us to pay them to bring them here?

Radio Host

Why

Pat Tracy

would I bankroll those guys?

They're unbelievable.

Radio Host

They will.

Yes.

And the ladies love them, like it's weird.

Pat Tracy

Maybe we could lure them here with a cider sponsor.

There you go.

I like it.

I like

Radio Host

it.

Pat, you got two minutes wrapping up, buddy.

Everything good about Oshkosh?

Pat Tracy

Well, I love Oshkosh.

It's another beautiful weekend in Oshkosh here with the tulips blooming at the Payne Arts Center and Gardens.

We're going to be out there with mom taking pictures this weekend, having brunch, strolling down Main Street.

You got those really

Radio Host

good cannolis on the menu any place here?

Pat Tracy

Oh, at Fox River Brewery.

Yes, they've got an amazing Mother's Day buffet over there.

Oh, we're, see, I don't have time to stop there because we

Tracy

have to be in Oshkosh.

We're planting trees.

Not Oshkosh, we're not Oshkosh.

Pat Tracy

Oh, you're planting trees today?

Tracy

Yep.

It's called the orchard.

I forgot what it's called.

Oh my gosh.

Apple Blossom.

Apple Blossom.

Along the trail.

It's beautiful.

They plant trees every year.

And Johnny and I did that last year.

We're going to go do that today.

So we have to scoot out of here.

But

Pat Tracy

or else cannolis

Tracy

next time.

Pat Tracy

So we're going to make plants for cider.

Yes.

Not even a question.

Brats.

Yes.

Yes.

We got a big summer here.

Still haven't had

Radio Host

your candy.

Pat Tracy

Oh, the candy.

Huge.

Yeah.

Radio Host

We

Pat Tracy

got to get them to huge.

We didn't want to wait in line.

That was our fault.

We're getting a backlog of Oshkosh.

Yeah.

Artisan eats.

Yes.

To feed John.

Radio Host

Yes.

Yes.

And we want to get George Thoreau good on the show here when he was in Oshkosh.

Whoa.

Oh my gosh.

Todd

Yes.

I guess I'll be busy over the next several

Pat Tracy

weeks.

You got to work

Todd

that.

Pat Tracy

Um, I mean, it's on a Thursday night, right?

Yeah, we got to sync up calendars.

All right, we will be so cool.

We could just he stays in the hotel right across the street.

Yeah, just goes bang

Todd

on his door.

Pat Tracy

They love

Todd

that.

Pat Tracy

George.

I can sing all your songs.

One beer.

Yes,

Radio Host

I can sing all your songs.

Tracy.

Thank you, my brother.

Love you guys.

Thank you for the hospitality in Oshkosh.

We love it down here.

You're the man.

All right, we're out of time.

Tomorrow, we'll continue to hand out our $25 gift certificate for the best slogan.

You can get in on this, Pat.

Take line.

Mine on the mare.

Tracy

That's

Radio Host

it.

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Tracy

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