John Minow and Jim Schmidt.
Hey, thank you very much.
Welcome back.
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How do you think council is going to be graded this year?
What do you think?
Don't they?
I mean, it's like, Mark Houston, Bell and Sports Medicine joining us right here right now.
Got a text here.
As you were talking about the Vietnam story, I'm driving across the bridge in DPR and the ROTC students are doing something so young.
You're exactly right.
Exactly right.
I was one of them.
You were one of them.
You were paled, right?
We had some people in our group, got a guy right, you know, 3am.
the guy right next door signed up for that.
He loved it.
I was not, that's not my thing.
I was very young at the time, just, but I didn't want, I like, I like to kind of control what I do a little bit.
And I thought maybe I'm a little too independent for that.
So I decided not to.
Some drill sergeant would love
You know, I had a few friends that went off to, I had a,
very close friend went off their first Academy.
But I think that there are also some young men and women.
Some, I didn't realize, left high school and went off to the services.
And I tell you what, they have all come back and said, man, it changed my life, it changed the game.
What ROTC allows students, and then you're 18 when you're in there, you're a freshman, so you're 18 years old, you're in there for two years, and then you got to.
you gotta make a decision.
And that's kind of a big decision to make when you're 20, but a decision nonetheless.
But what I liked about it, it's a little time of discernment too, because you do learn about some things and it's like, well, I didn't know that.
And we had to study maps and a few other things.
We had to learn how to march and flank right and all that.
But there were some people like, this is awesome.
And I'm like, okay, I didn't get that feeling.
But it was nice, because or else you might make the decision like, I'm going in.
And once you sign up to go in down here, you're committed.
Oh, yeah.
But you didn't talk about how young and the father said that, but the guy whose story I'm working on right now was a helicopter pilot in Vietnam.
Okay.
And he was in helicopter trace final stage of helicopter training when he was 19.
19, yeah, and then gets shipped right over afterwards.
It's like, you know, 19 and they're flying these multi-million dollar, unbelievable piece of equipment at such a young
Yeah, you know, but there's also, I've had friends who've said, you know, my son goes off to the farming field and they're in million dollar pieces of combine equipment.
Yeah.
You know, and it's a choice they make, but I tell you what, there's a lot of opportunity that some of these young kids
I think we had it as well, but I think there's more opportunity now And it's awesome that they're taking that opportunity and do and I'm gonna do something with it for the career for their life No question.
I
40 in classic, we did.
The other thing that I just want to say, another maybe selfish reason people took it is you got grades, right?
It was a class you had to take, but grades were usually got Bs or A's.
You know, they were pretty nice to us.
And I kind of needed that to offset some of the other grades.
Okay.
The repelling and all that stuff is part of the class, but no, you're
the books, the maps.
Okay.
So, I mean, I don't want you to take our house and cheese for two years and know nothing.
Yeah.
I mean, so, but even that shooting, I remember we were shooting, I said to the guy, I'm, I just remember him saying that we would rather have people who don't hunt so we can teach you to shoot our way than this way your grandpa
was in school Oh, it's lots of well some high school like Notre Dame or actually for Monterey used to have a really popular ROTC Yeah, one of the guys was a Korean War veteran who's in my book Silver Star recipient Doc Bateen was the name great guy wonderful guy and That was a real serious thing the ROTC at that high school.
I don't know high schools even have it anymore
Do they work?
I
I mean, they want to inform you, but there's a little bit of sales to that.
And they would bring in people from Schneider.
And Schneider likes hiring people who have a little military experience.
And the guy would come out and say, look, you do this for four, six years.
You got a job.
He didn't guarantee it, but said, we would be very interested in you.
That's good.
I think that's, uh, I'll be on from, uh,
50-year-old Catholic that I am.
The last time we went through this was very educational, to understand the smoke signals and the color.
And how is it picked?
And who's picking who?
How do you get picked to go into
He appoints Cardinals, so that's one of our jobs.
And he's really, there used to be a Cardinal in Philadelphia.
He hasn't gone to the real major cities now, but he's appointed Cardinals from Africa and from the Philippines.
And so what's going to be interesting when these 130 men get together, the diversity there, it was mainly Europeans and Italians.
Wasn't
Oh, I don't know.
You know, everybody knows Cardinal Dolan
He was in Madison.
He's Bishop there and he's in New York now and he's he goes to the pretty politically involved.
He goes to the things where they roast the president and he's very jovial.
If you go to Mass, you know, at St.
Patrick's on Fifth Avenue and he's there giving Mass and you go up to him after
Oh, yeah, I remember you here remember you, but he's just very very jovial like very engaging So I think he's running for Pope, but
No, no, no, this was some pageant something I want to say was like the May day remember talking about May day did when I went to a Catholic school They had the big May day was a huge deal
And, uh, I think my sister was, was Mary.
Okay.
You know, over every order.
And the bishop was there.
And it was this old typical old hunched over bishop.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Bishop Noah for Marquette.
And that was a big deal for the bishop to be an art.
And he's walking out and I'm in like this one row and he's like half of the church.
And he stops.
He goes, you.
And he goes, he did that to me.
Like what?
He pointed me out out of the whole thing on his way out of church.
He just goes.
You
10 minutes.
This Marion Shrine, we've talked, I don't want to talk too much about that, but he said, look, I can do a full hour on that because he's the president of that.
You know, that is really something special.
That's the second most visited attraction in Green Bay next to the Packers, the 200,000 visitors last year.
So anyway,
Yeah, and I did a story up there where-
like everything that had been burnt completely, except that.
I mean, it is pretty crazy when you see the map type things of this was gone, this was obliterated, that was obliterated, and that stayed.
I mean, I'm just, it's, when you really look into it and you look at the old maps and everything, it's like,
It is, and it's documented and it's made its way up and so.
I ran a campaign one time.
We don't remember this, but it was get the Pope to Green Bay to and I got how bad I got called on the carpet by the Bishop.
I said your boss called me in his office.
I remember that too.
Why would you get feedback or a pushback on that?
I'm bringing the pope to town.
Oh, the protocol on that.
You know, it's like an end around and you don't do it that way.
But then Jim goes, do you
It's funny when you say two things today that brought for some reason you're talking about the brought back too bad memories of mine One was the thing with the Bishop and the other was punk the last time somebody called me a punk Let me forget this in Nagani.
I was like 18 and I did something and this guy's running up the street
and he's taking his glasses and his watch off.
You know it's going to be serious when they take their watch off.
So we were talking about when Michael said, sure, Sanders was a punk.
Yeah, it's like, just, you know, and I remember the last time I was called a punk.
The guy was exactly right.
That's that's what I was.
I was a punk.
Mark Houston, Balanced Sports Minister.
We got a lot to talk about here, buddy.
We're gonna be in Oshkosh next week, correct?
Thursday.
Thursday morning.
Outstanding.
Yep.
Looking forward to that.
We always enjoy that, man.
Yeah.
Something about that town, an early morning with the sun coming up.
It's just really cool with all those old buildings and everything.
Yeah,
I mean it was it was a great location It just it was it was hard to there was traffic issues But what when I said there were and there weren't we had one of our physicians that drove in and had no problem come right up the highway everyone thought
do not come up the highway and do not get off at Lombardi.
And it was probably one of the easiest access.
So credit to whoever designed it, did a wonderful job and got people in and out.
You know what?
It's coming
I mean, we kind of talked earlier, you know, and was it a success?
How do you define it?
I think everyone's just got to settle down and say, you know what, it was awesome to have.
Um, it was an awesome to have this event.
I don't know if we'll ever see it again here.
Um, maybe it comes back in five or 10 years.
I don't know.
Um, I think it was a, I think the NFL, you know, for so many years was in radio city music hall.
Yeah.
That's where it was going to be.
And now they've opened their wings in the last 10 years.
So, I mean, that was our thing.
I think one of the, the, the day of the draft driving in and heard Mark Murphy asked in 2015 about that draft or.
to get the draft and it took 10 years.
And they're very, I mean, and that's the other thing.
When we were the first ones that, I'm almost sure when I say this,
many times you have less than a year to publicly plan on this.
And I think they released that information a little bit earlier because they were trying to find out the date of, you know, where does it lay?
So it was just a great event.
I mean, we had probably what a year and a half to plan and Pittsburgh's got, I think Pittsburgh just got announced not that long ago, but that's it.
I don't think the next year has been out there yet.
But Taylor, for the other people, the auxiliary businesses, whatever you're going to call it around here, just the only advice to give Pittsburgh is you're not getting a crowd that wants to go out and party afterwards.
They're not looking for fancy restaurants.
They're looking to see who their third round draft pick is going to be by God and how they're draft.
These are serious draft aficionados, aren't they?
and diet diehards that were down there all three days.
Diet diehards that were there the whole week.
We just talked off air of Monday, Tuesday around my clinic when it picked up, but it wasn't packed.
And you had people wearing jerseys from the Patriots, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Miami Dolphins.
And you're just like, man, the draft's not here for another three or four days.
So there are some diehards.
But are there 100,000 diehards for 12 days?
No.
But do I think a lot of them
Do I think we had some die-hards that flew in for the whole week?
Yep.
But so when you bring that up, I'll say this.
I know there is some sensitivity with the draft in downtown versus Lambeau Field area and stuff.
I think that honestly, we've done some good things in this town.
I shouldn't say we.
They have done some good things to have those kind of statues, to have items.
So when people come in, it's not just about Lambeau Field.
There's a lot of people that say, hey man, I ate at this restaurant downtown.
I went and did this along the river.
There's a lot of great things.
I mean, it is unique from where Lambeau Field and the downtown is.
But I couple of things I have to say about the draft.
And then I think that'd be it.
I did feel bad for some of the people and we were the recipient of the new community shelter for excess food.
But there was
a lot of excess food.
And I asked, like, why?
Why didn't you plan?
And because entrepreneurs are pretty smart people.
And, you know, I do a game.
I'm going to do twice the game or I'm going to do one third more than I do a game.
But I think they were expecting higher numbers outside the gate.
And that didn't that didn't happen.
And I think they were expecting people to stay longer.
And I don't think that happened either.
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Well, Mark Houston, we're talking all about the draft and everything like that, but as far as like, bell in health and bell in sports medicine, what I had never seen that upper level at your facility, okay?
What a great, how many cameras do you have to like, okay, when you guys,
and you were kind of explaining or somebody you were explaining to me that night a little bit but you were had 14 people tapping on your shoulder every time you moved but explain what you guys have okay it's sport turf like astroturf okay to begin with you got weight things and all that but the thing that fascinated me tell me about that almost like like video studio you guys have set up there and what you guys do in that part to analyze people what they're doing physically
Is someone ready with their movement to go back or not?
So is it a matter of something, trying to get something faster or decelerating?
So if it's a shoulder injury, can your arm decelerate or can you pick it up?
Or is it a lower body, an ACL or an ankle injury?
And you're trying to figure out, hey, how are they running?
We also have, so we have cameras that pick up high, it's high speed and then slow it down so you can really look and assess the body.
We also have force plates.
So there are force plates built either into the treadmill or into the floor.
So when you jump, it'll tell you, are you landing evenly right side to left side?
Or are you jumping up and you think that you're landing equally, but you're not.
So really what it is is it's using technology to come back and say, okay, is that person progressing and equal?
And the
And with your eye, you sometimes can't pick up that.
So sometimes what you need to do is slow it down, show it on a TV, then there's TVs in there.
And then we can also sometimes burn like a disc where they can watch it and say, okay, watch your throwing motion or watch your jumping motion or your running motion.
And with cameras, you just, it doesn't lie.
It's it was Olympic training for Olympic athletes or pro athletes.
And that's what I think there was a misconception thinking we just treat the pros and that's it.
That's what that's stuff for.
No, in fact, sadly, I have I even had a neighbor was probably nine, 10 years old last year with a shoulder injury or elbow injury, you know, and we were able to bring them in there, go through an assessment, give them exercises and then
work on it now.
Did he miss some time last year?
Yes.
Hopefully he's doing his exercises so he won't miss time this year because ultimately you're just trying to catch these things before.
We're not trying to get to him to get to surgery.
We're hopefully going to catch these in issue before surgery.
But if you need surgery, we also use that to say, okay, you know, it's not just I'm four months out.
I can do this.
Well, did you do your rehab?
Are you as strong as you need to be?
If you're not, let's progress you.
And I think people know that, but the beauty of your place is it's open to people like us.
Correct.
General folk.
Right.
Did you take advantage of, did you give tours to people from outside the community or tours to anybody?
The only reason I ask that is we have some unique things here and I think
I don't know, for whatever reason, people are busy and I get that.
But those are something, I don't think people know that.
And I was talking a little bit about, I wish, whether the NFL did it or not, we gave tours to the Northern Hotel, Frank and I did.
And people were like, this is unbelievable.
It's like, well, for $50 million, it better be unbelievable.
But they're just like, and I think if they come back, they're are going to stay there.
We met people from Philadelphia, from Ohio, and even some locals were there.
I saw that it was free tours.
I never saw this place before.
I just hope that that was part of it right with your open house
Yeah, you know we we because of activities that we had both going on outside our parking lot and inside We we host a party we we couldn't showcase it as much as probably want to yeah, but we you're right It's a great call-up from day one when we opened that building up almost eight years ago.
Yeah, we always had We always
did tours and we still will continue to do tours.
There's people that come to that building and be like, a great example was during COVID.
I know everyone hates talking about it.
We ended up shifting.
We did pre-participation exams and for I think two summers did them there.
Brought their kids over and they'd be like, we didn't know this was here.
You know, it's like, we've been open four years, you know, it's just so, it continues to be that way.
And sadly, you know, but I think what it is is
You don't worry about those things.
It's the same thing I've preached on here.
You don't worry about those things till your kid's injured.
And then all of a sudden you grab me your phone right away saying, where do I need to go?
Who do I need to see?
How quick can I get in?
I need an answer now.
And I would say that's the best thing.
I don't wanna discredit our physicians and our therapists and our athletic trainers, but I will say some of the best people in that building, it's our physician coordinators.
They pride themselves in getting people in to our doctors within a day or two.
Not two weeks, not three weeks, not a month.
It's usually within a day or two.
If you've got a need, now, if you've had a back issue or shoulder issue for, you know, 13 years, you may have to wait a week or two, but urgent stuff, we try to get it in and we try to get answers to the
Can I just say one thing as a thinker?
I don't know if people realize this.
If you have a boot like I have from you guys, don't drive.
Don't drive.
Don't drive.
Did I tell you what happened with my brakes?
Oh my, I was going like 75 down the highway because I couldn't get my boot on Lodge.
So every time I'd step on the brakes, that would push my foot down on the gas.
Yeah.
I'm going to be very frank.
This is Mark Hughes in personal opinion.
I don't like it.
I haven't, I think when NIL went to the colleges, again, that came out of COVID and I think caught people, I think it caught colleges off guard.
I understand.
Well, you know, everyone with, when we were in COVID, then that ruling came down.
And I remember we approached some people like, what happens now?
We heard it with the draft.
There was people, there were college athletes that were gonna take,
a reduction in pay to come and be a pro athlete.
I have a problem with that.
Shooter Sanders.
And so now a high school athlete could,
It's not wearing your uniform for your school.
That is not what it's for.
But it's using that person's name, image or likeness and potentially getting paid.
I just don't like it.
I'm a person of what is high school sports all about?
What is Friday night lights all about?
And I'm not just trying to go here with football.
What's going to a softball game this afternoon and watching kids play for the fun of it?
It's even
It's like, what is high school about?
You know, it's, look, how old, 14, 15, 16, that's just, those are some awkward years, it's some really cool years, makes great friends.
And if there's, you know, these people who are making hundreds of thousands of dollars, it just, it doesn't, it takes away that, that class, that school spirit, they're going to be in a different, and I don't know, I don't like it either, but, you know, I, you know, when
I'm sure I'm going to.
Butcher these numbers, but I want to say about 30 states in the nation already have these I also heard some states have put this in and it's you know I think the worry is okay.
What happens right away?
I don't think we're gonna see hundreds of athletes getting these But I think you're gonna get some high-profile athletes that will be offered some large dollars in this state of Wisconsin
I
I know the mother, but I don't know the family, but the canypals.
Oh, sure.
You know, I'm a Milwaukee.
So con canypals, freshmen, played at Wisconsin Lutheran, went to Duke, created some great stories.
His mother is Sherry Norga, wonderful Gail, uncle is Jeff Norga, I went to school with these guys.
But he's now got some brothers.
Do I think that they may get offered some deals?
Is it a Nike deal or an Adidas deal or whatever?
Potentially.
Do I think Johnny Smith at Bondwell or Amy White at Green Bay East, the basic high school athlete that's just out there, I'm gonna run track or I'm a play soccer.
Do I think they're gonna get a lot?
No, I don't think they're gonna get anything.
Okay, because with college players, obviously they're getting paid by big boosters.
Okay, I mean, boosters have become the new
recruiters in the world of college athletics not not even a question about that anymore okay you're buying players not even a question but with high school the WA still has transfer rules and things like that because I mean somebody will swoop in you know like a GB will have a great player basketball and a bigger school will swoop in and it's happened almost their whole team from a couple of years ago that happened but with high school you still have the restrictions of transferring don't you
You know, I guess what's the big inducement, you know, I'm gonna give you a million dollars to leave your school to come to my school
This is where I I work with a lot of athletic directors and I love everyone of them They're gonna they're gonna have a challenge, you know, it's like how are who's managing what's right or wrong on these NIL deals now?
to make sure that Johnny, who just signed a contract for, even if it's $500, was it done correctly?
Or did he, did he wear his jersey and he got paid $500?
And then someone comes back and says, that's illegal.
Now what's the penalty?
Well, another thing that like in college, one of the things that the coaches are just fighting for, it's like, okay, you got to give us this one thing.
Make them sign a contract for like two years or something because otherwise You're there's no paperwork with a lot of these guys they say and that's why some of these guys have quit the teams And it's like I didn't you guys promised me such and such and now I'm not starting and all of a sudden that's gone down That's happened.
You know, it's, I appreciate hearing that, but I think that's probably what a lot of it is.
But I also sit there and say, all right, put it myself, my son's only 10.
But I mean, what happens if that parent, I'm the parent who has a kid who can get a big deal and
And why not and when that's that was posed to me and I get I understand it.
It's it's but it's Again, we I think I heard when and I all happened in college A booster gave every football player at the Miami The University of Miami down in Florida every football player like dollars and a fitness pass Okay, everyone gets the benefit but what happens when you're the
Third string back of quarterback in the quarterbacks making two million.
You're the third string making zero is that I
We're talking WIA.
We got about six different things, but
to the camera things can people come in could they schedule an appointment with you guys if like for a golf swing or something and where you could look at it and say maybe you're not injured but what you're doing the way you're doing it can lead to injury for a young pitcher
it's not just for it because you have an injury you can come in and get up you can get an assessment so
If you just get on Bell and Health Titletown and you look up, they have pitching assessments, throwing assessments, golfers assessments.
Do we even have dance, like cheer or dancers?
We have assessments for these young girls, trust me, and not blaming them just as much as a thrower may need it.
A dancer sometimes needs it, needs it of how do you land, how do you jump?
Plenty of injuries there
Yeah, I do.
Absolutely.
Hey, I just want to get back to it.
We started with your name, Merger Change.
And I really talked about how you came up with Amplify.
I think that's a very cool name.
I think it has two means to it.
Yet, Bellin is such a strong name in our community.
And that's going to be, you merged with Anderson, Seattle, I mean, a student's point lacrosse.
A great health care system, as are you, that happened.
A while ago, right?
Two years?
Yeah, over two
So two years ago, we merged with Gunderson Health, which is out of La Crosse, West Side Region.
We're on the East Side.
Yes, we still are known as Bell and Health.
We're in this change over with names.
So last April, it was actually right about this time last year, they announced it would be called Amplify Health.
So we're amplifying empathy.
I
Um, and now you've got a great opportunity with a new name.
So right now you're seeing a lot because some people don't know what Amplify Health is.
So there's an endorser.
It'll say Amplify Health by Bellin.
But trust me, I've worked for Bellin for 28 years and I do say Bellin, you know, and we are, it's gonna take years.
We appreciate the support.
If there's questions, let us know if there's, but I will tell you,
our values are not going away.
Our mission's not going away.
What we're doing for the community, it's not going away.
That's why we've partnered with Gunnerson Health.
It's an awesome opportunity.
There's a lot of different mergers that are going on, and then there's a lot of buyouts.
Some people are saying, well, we just bought out that healthcare system, and now it's our way.
We didn't want to be in that position.
So it was a great opportunity for us to partner with someone who's got like-minded business practice.
And, you know, same thing though, everyone says, you know, it was, you know, our surgery center, it still says bound health.
We opened that up a little over a year ago.
And yeah, because we didn't have that name yet.
Right.
So we had to put a name on it.
So, um, those names, some of the buildings will change over and you'll see amplify,
Cause that was a good merger.
You guys pulled up and there's a lot of opportunity out there for health systems to merge and efficiencies, not just in the back room with, with, with IT and management, but there's also things that they, maybe we're doing a little bit better than you.
I think that's the biggest thing.
It's like, we didn't just grab a whole bunch of people, thousands of people and replace them.
Those people are still the same.
It's not easy.
This is, I'm 28 years, almost at Bellin.
And I just said it.
at Belling.
I've worked there.
I take pride in that.
So that pride is not going to go away.
But it is a little bit of a change.
Some people have to get in our building.
I think with a lot of people, you just got to get in the building and say, holy cow, but you know what?
Get on the website.
Check it out.
If you check out, I mean, any of our facilities, but.
Bellin.org backslash title town.
It'll explain a lot that we have it there.
Quick question for you.
What muscle is this?
I pulled this muscle here.
Sure.
Lettissimus dorsi.
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