ROTC, NIL, and Emplify

Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And

here are your hosts, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

Good.

You ever have to belch right

before you... Yeah, sounded good.

Sounded good.

Oh

my goodness.

We're

good.

I'm sorry.

Hey, good morning.

Happy Freak.

Todd, Jim and I were just...

Talk about something.

Yes.

It's been a long week.

I'm telling you.

No,

this has been a long week.

And we're wondering, was it a let down a little bit after the draft?

And we were so excited about the draft.

We went to the draft.

That was kind of burned out.

I mean, that was a lot of hours, right?

Yeah.

It was a lot of hours on Thursday, a lot of hours on Saturday.

It was a whole day.

Was that it?

And now it's over.

It's gone.

They're taking the roadblocks down.

I

think it was just a lot of.

Energy all you know and even before that like you guys had the pizza thing you had the thing at a chill, right?

So there really wasn't any doubt and then we really haven't had really nice weather this week.

No, right, which hasn't helped yesterday was Okay

Michael says looking fresh this morning to John mine.

Okay,

you

do.

I think that's your hair Yeah, you did something different with the hair right

besides

a show.

Okay besides that.

Yeah, I think

My skin is more luminescence.

I do.

From the towel.

From the towel

pollen.

You're buying that stuff now.

Be honeywax.

I put it on my face.

I

think it's luminescent.

I'm sure that's what it is.

Todd, if Michael sees it.

From Madison.

You know what, Jim?

I specifically asked you not to comment.

Did I?

Did I not?

Did

I not ask you not to comment?

You look great, John.

Thank you.

Thank you, Michael.

It is Friday, May 2nd.

It is May.

No pants day, space day, Harry Potter day.

I can see you being one of those Harry Potter guys, Todd.

Todd.

I like it a little bit.

Yeah.

I don't.

There are big fans.

I am not a big fan.

And I'm also not somebody that can watch anything, whether it's Harry Potter or any other show and just believe that they tell you something is what it is.

Dom is a huge Harry Potter.

I believe that.

Every book.

Every movie

every that whole age is yes big big big girl like that.

That was their thing

through their whole childhood Yeah, um brothers and sisters day.

Hey tuna day I Still eat a lot of that tuna.

It's good

dog 25 candy.

Yep.

I mean that is ideal.

You know,

that's not a bad deal.

That's not a bad deal Four for five dollars.

You know, I've been

doing those is uh making my sandwich.

I buy that big those big pieces of lettuce

It's not the easiest thing in the world.

But I make my sandwiches out of the big pieces of lettuce.

The romaine?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you just wrap, do you want to eat bread?

Yeah, I don't eat bread

then.

Oh, that's good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

I like it.

I like it.

I got another texture and Brian, damn, John is glowing.

Thank you, Brian.

I appreciate that.

You know, Wayne, I don't know if Big Wayne does this, but man, could you make some money off that stuff?

Don't

you think?

I don't know what you're

talking about.

What I bought, I mean, it's legitimate.

Paulin honey tallow And that's what I'm using on my face

How's that made

with be honey?

I know what he would I don't know,

but I bet he could do it.

Yeah, it sounds pretty I think it's

probably just like Vaseline and and and that mixed together.

What'd you think?

Yeah, what did you have to get that approved?

That'd be a nice sidekick.

I

know

he gave me some really nice be honey beard.

Okay.

Yeah, I really like that.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah

That works really well.

Keep it soft.

Well, your beard came back fast.

I have to trim it again this weekend.

That'll be the fifth time.

I'm keeping everything short for now.

I couldn't grow a beard in 20

years.

Stop snoring week.

I saw that.

Gosh darn it.

I keep forgetting.

I keep forgetting.

I'm going to get the folks in from HME and get on you about having that test

done.

And it's one of those things.

Yep.

You know, two things I got to get done medically that I just, it's like, why don't I do it?

Have you ever gotten a shingles shot?

Yes.

I gotta get one of those.

It's

painful.

Is it?

Mm-hmm.

Oh.

There's a hangover to that.

It's like the next day.

So it is real good.

It might be a little sore.

That's very sore.

Really?

Yes.

That is not... Where do you get it?

Like in the arm?

In the arm?

In the

arm?

No, but I mean... Any drugstore?

I didn't know it's... Just put it in your stomach or anything.

No, I just put it in my

arm.

I gotta get one of

those.

Pick your left arm.

But

aren't they like $600?

Man, I don't know.

Oh, I was a wild boy.

I think those are 10-year shots.

Okay,

think about that

David Beckham is 50 the rock is 53 Larry Gatlin 77 Do you ever have them at the Gatlin?

That seems

like that would be a

perfect brothers.

Oh, they were awesome.

That seems a perfect type of group for that venue,

right?

Yeah Yeah, I could

jagger 80 years old, right?

Cubs at Brewers tonight 635 on WISS got another text here from Terry.

Did you guys see the movie green and gold?

I find the side that appears cinema last night Figures the Packers season movie yada yada would end on a far of interception How many times do we see that from far of Terry?

What you think of the movie though Terry?

Let us know what you think of the movie Night

yeah, I didn't see it.

Yeah

You should though.

I know that's not my list the only thing like I said the only negative

my problem with movies like I told you I know fall asleep

It's not fat.

It's not a fast-paced movie.

No, that's

I'm gonna be honest.

We'll be out

Half hour.

I think you would I think you'd fall asleep on this one.

I

don't like

movies Vicki says TGIF fellas Thank You Vicki.

Happy Friday to you as well.

All right.

We got Mark Houston coming up balance sports medicine man.

I'll tell you what

What a week he had,

huh?

Mm-hmm.

He's he's feeling I bet he had a long week this week Wow.

Yeah,

he slept in his office.

What he did So that

doesn't not care have you ever done that.

Oh, yeah, I have to it's weird

Yes, it's weird.

It's weird.

It's weird.

Yeah.

Yeah, you know if It's like, you know, what is it?

It's midnight one o'clock.

You gotta be back.

You know, it's like look I'm sustained here tonight.

I always had change of clothes there too, so

You have to change a lot of clothes right just tie and sure why

you know we had a shot I had a well that little bathroom I got locked into

oh had a

shower

yeah

in it so you know it was kind of convenient that that part but Michael says the single shot is a two-part shot the second will knock you in your butt

Michael I Don't know that I had to I just I don't I didn't like that and the guy said it's gonna be this is gonna be a little painful tomorrow And it was more than a little almost called him, but I thought well, you know, maybe it's me

But it is just prepared for that.

You have to like to take you don't have to take the day off of work.

But it's not like you get any other shots.

You never feel a thing.

But that when you remember

got this one thumbs up to the Green and Gold movie.

OK.

How much is the theater?

What?

Oh, you know, hey, you know what?

Actually, there's a movie out.

I want to see it.

It's called War or something.

But anyway, I didn't even realize that it's only like $7 on Tuesdays to

go to

Tuesdays.

Wow.

No, that's the day to go.

Put

that

on your calendar.

I know, right?

Yep.

I mean, it's half price then, is it?

Probably.

Yeah.

But the good thing about our job is we could go to an early show.

Absolutely.

See, if I go at 7, 8 at night, it'd be tough.

I don't like that the 7, 8 at night's either in a way because you're nice in, especially in the winter, you know, you're

all day and

those, yeah, those

recliners.

They are not uncomfortable.

That's good to put it.

They are not uncomfortable.

No, that's any reserve the ones you want.

Yeah.

Yeah, I that's all I like it.

Yeah, I go to movies, but I haven't been on quite a while.

I mean they've up there.

I mean they got canned beer It's like incredible in that way.

It is expendable money Those things are still high though and I know and I had people that worked in the in that business They said you got to do that or you're gonna close down the the theater

the concessions Yeah, they have to pay so much for the movie.

That's where the money comes from you another minute I had once my great friend Chuck Wellins the other day and we're

His dad, he grew up in a gas station.

Chuck did, lived in the gas station, you know, upstairs and everything.

And we were talking about that because my brother's gas station, whatever.

It's like, people don't realize if you didn't have a garage, there'd be no gas stations back in those days because there was so little money to be made from the gas itself that you had to have a mechanic and that's where you made your money.

Yeah, you wonder, you look at quick trip.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't know.

how much the revenue is gas and how much is is other things inside but even if it's let's just pick a number 2575 but you look at the profits it's a hell of a lot more on the inside than it is no

question no question about it so anyway so that's what's going on in this Friday um you know Todd Lisa I told her this too boy she does a nice job putting things together I mean you hand her something and she will

make magic out of

it.

So you went to the wall dedication down in Appleton on Wednesday, got some great audio, got some great pictures and stuff.

If you want to see it yourself and get some of those video interviews that we played yesterday on the show, you can go to wgbw.fm or wiss.fm and right in the news, you can click on it and see all of it.

It was it's it was an amazing site.

It was that wall is unbelievable.

It's really cool.

And you know, you know, people always ask me if you've been to the moving one, you know, when they take the

the Vietnam wall to, you know, and they have it, you know, numerous, numerous times.

And it's great.

And like people say, it's, it's something else.

But this one with their pictures, does that put it in a different

perspective?

You had a couple of close up shots of some of them.

Yeah.

Oh my God, that kind of looks like my dad when he was younger, you

know, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.

And you know, just so many small towns and just, you know, I mean, man.

1200 it was a little over 1200.

I believe it's 1231.

How do

we recognize those that we lost after the war because of the war?

How do you do that?

Yeah, because that's a factor too, you know, although I you know, I was this this is still something that you it got me so mad the other day for a minute because one of the guys on the thing from Green Bay went to Promontory High School killed in Vietnam

It's a GMAC, you know the GMAC appliance family.

Yeah, okay.

It's John GMAC and I'm really great friends with his sister and his brother and everybody but anyway I still think it's the miscarriage of military justice that He wasn't he was killed and he's on the wall and listed as being killed in Vietnam, right?

The government will not give him a purple heart They won't give him a purple heart and I've even helped fight it and Mike Gallagher fought for them

I mean, and I've got the letters of rejection.

And because here's, they go out, they find their, it was right at the Cambodian border.

Okay.

They find this cache of stuff where another Vietcong North Vietnamese are in the area and they hide their stuff.

All right.

Um, they set what they called a mechanical ambush.

They set mines up and claim more mines and all these kinds of things with, you know, trip wires.

So, okay.

And then they got back and waited to, you know, for

the

lines that are come in.

Middle of the night pouring rain the captain nothing's going on captain says we need to set up some trip flares out there Okay, so he takes a different group than the one that knew they put in there.

Yes Well, what happens?

Right?

Okay.

I think three of them got killed including John.

Okay They won't give him a purple heart any of those guys Yeah, I don't know the

But here he is on the wall.

This is

being killed in action.

Yeah, I mean it's like really

Yeah, and they try and I mean I've got the paperwork and Mike Gallagher tries and you know Mike Gallagher back today if he couldn't get something done

Especially the military.

He had some clout with the military.

Total

clout.

Yeah, so anyway that always breaks my heart that then his dad until her dad died a couple of years ago They were still fighting for it, but

yeah that happened with a another person I know that There they was tried but then when the dad dies or somebody that when the leader dies it kind

of

Yeah, I don't know what what more avenues they

have they because he probably I mean

it went right up to like the I mean maybe now I don't but anyway, it's just kind of heartbreaking for the family.

It's like really he lost his

Williams calling me a lightweight

I had it with no pain or next-day problems.

Everybody

is

different Shingrex is usually free if you're on Medicare Shingles is one of the most painful things you will ever experience do not put it

on that

is true Williams.

Yeah, I've known some people

that

have had it so it's free

I don't think so.

You're a Medicare guy, aren't you?

But the hospital won't do it.

The hospitals won't take them.

I don't know.

Every time I've gotten to my checkups, they always ask me, did you get a shingle shot?

And I'm like,

no.

Thank God it's not dental work.

I know, right?

You know what?

Hey, you know

what?

You know

what?

What?

I think I'm going to live without a tooth.

You're doing fine, aren't you?

I'm doing fine.

Yep.

I'm doing totally fine.

Yeah.

I know, you gotta watch for infection.

Yeah, I don't know.

They're talking to somebody about it.

Yeah.

But I thought you'd have this weird, weird feeling of, oh my god.

Will Gatlin, brothers?

Will Gatlin, Will Giamma says you can go to Walgreens and get the shot.

Yeah.

That's where I got

my... That we don't have any Walgreens around here.

Did

you tell them to do a gang shot?

Yep.

Yeah singing at the world's biggest rodeo show

I'm one

day closer to

you.

Yeah.

Hey, welcome

back.

I know the mayor had a Friday morning forecast does not look great.

Cloudy with showers high in the low fifties today.

How about the weekend?

Is the weekend getting

better?

Better.

Yeah.

Little bit.

I mean, maybe 60, right?

Yeah.

All right.

Maybe.

I think

80 stuff went away.

I'm

right.

Yeah, I was like, and it was

forecast.

No, no,

it said 78 80.

But that's the highs like are in the 60s now.

But still, it's

going down this weekend at the watering hole in Howard.

Right.

This is good because we need something after this.

Yeah, I agree.

After math of the draft.

And this this is going to be a great day here.

May 3rd, Saturday, which is like you said, just coming up here.

It's a bluesgrass and

Who doesn't love bluesgrass?

This is called Ladies of Bluegrass in Howard at the watering hole.

I think we've all been there a number of times.

So I'll read off the bands in a second, but what I want you to know is that this goes to fight cancer.

And we've talked about this so many times on the show.

We all know someone who has suffered with it or gone through

it or in the middle of it.

I don't know how anybody

can't.

So yeah, this is very cool that they're doing so this

way I got quick text here from spark.

Good morning, John I see that be honey tallow is mainly produced in Chernobyl that would explain the glowing this morning

All right, so Time is a little bit cut off if they could

I got that for you doors open at 11 30 music starts at noon.

All right, so it starts with East Nash grass.

Yeah the dirty grass players

I don't have the list of where all but just go on their website and look at this.

I'll give that to you in just a second.

Joseph Huber, the Tillers, Art Stevenson in the Highwater, the Fox Gloves, and of course, Biscuit Creek.

So their website, John, Todd, is that on here?

I don't see that.

For what?

To look at, if you want

to look at it online.

You can find it on Facebook if you'd like more details on it.

All

right.

Saturday, May 3rd, tomorrow.

Yeah, obviously.

Right.

This is, what a great day to spend in listening

to variety of

music and these.

They got pictures on that's why I want you to look at the website.

These guys look like they're.

Look at the names like grass have the best names.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

East Nash grass, the dirty grass players, the tillers.

Yeah.

Biscuit Creek.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They get their own little world to get a bluegrass people.

Yeah.

I love them.

I think it's fun.

I really

do.

Good energy.

Yeah.

Nothing against the blues, but blue grasses.

Yeah.

Bluegrass mavens.

I like that

Midwestern bluegrass maven.

So that's

the watering hole.

A lot of parking out there.

Great place.

Yeah, we did

the other rated place.

They've they've raised so much money over the years.

Special Olympics thing out there.

And

mind boggling.

Yeah, mind boggling.

I what if you had a blues slash bluesgrass band?

So like half the songs are kind of slow.

Right.

And then all of a sudden every other song or every two songs you throw in one of those.

I like it.

Near near near near near.

I like

it.

I like it a lot.

It's

People

bathroom breaks.

You know what I mean?

I

don't know that I wonder if there's people that love both.

Oh, I'm sure.

There's people love the blues.

I'll tell

you there's people

who love

the blues.

Oh my God.

And then bluegrass.

Maybe.

Yeah.

No.

I

think of it when I think of the blues.

Yeah.

In a movie.

Yeah.

Remember, you boys mind if we dance with your dates.

No, that's fine.

Go ahead.

So another thing that is going on in the world.

Ouch.

Now what did you just do?

No,

you're fine

Get one of those hockey masks on him.

It's like we're living with Michael Jackson right like if you touch his nose It's

just like right there in the thing.

Yeah, I don't it's fine.

Yeah,

put some tallow on it

That'll yeah clean it right up.

Okay.

So one of the things that's still going on that won't die in sports

Okay, right now it's still it's almost getting bigger.

They're

sure Sanders

thing Yeah,

a lot more stuff is coming out where he went into a couple of the meetings Okay, and he the other okay.

Well here.

What do you think of this play?

What would I have you know?

He's like, I don't know No, no cuz you know what I'm probably not your guy.

Yeah, I heard he said that to a couple of different teams

and you know playing and that's yeah, wow

Yeah, like walked out on a couple like nah, you know what don't draft me

type of things yet

What that means is, I gotta run this thing if I'm here.

You know what I mean?

Like,

yeah, yeah.

I mean, it's, it's getting worse for him.

Just a kid, didn't he?

Yeah, just a kid, just a kid, but it's amazing how they just kind of,

but I mean, and I'm not saying how I feel about this because I don't know all the details, but you have some kids like that and then you have some kids who are just

They'll do anything to play.

Anything

for the chance.

They'll go anywhere and do whatever's asked of them.

And they're just blessed to have the opportunity.

You know?

Yeah.

I think that transcends to employees once in a while.

No question.

Let's have a little discussion

about that.

I'm talking

about when we were younger.

Not

now.

But no thing is true.

But somebody like that.

I mean,

I deal with kids like that.

That's a hard one to overcome when you start that way.

You know what I mean?

You can turn that way once you're whatever, whatever.

Yeah.

But man, to start out that way, it doesn't get a lot better.

Because then now if he fails, you know, if he gets a shot,

whoo.

Well, and as a coach and a team, aren't you thinking, are we going to be able to manage this?

Absolutely.

Are we going to be able to, you know, and people like.

Rodgers have shown that sometimes it can get out of control the way teams

teams have put up with a lot and it seems like there's a breaking point a few years ago okay with even like an Antonio Brown remember and then he turned out to be a total whack job

even as

a regular you know off the field now I mean horrific um and they so they got rid of him yeah um what's his name um oh god he's been hurt a lot ever since Odell Beckham jr were his dad

would go on these talk shows and rip the quarterback because he wasn't throwing his son the ball enough and everything.

Teams don't want, you know what I mean?

It's like, okay, you better be so good for teams nowadays to overlook that stuff because that can be so incredibly harmful to an organization.

I don't think they're going to take the risk.

No, that's what I mean with the money they invest these guys.

I don't

even know how good, I don't think it can be that good.

Even way, way back in the day, I remember talking to our GM.

The guy from Minneapolis that nobody liked

that played here.

No, yeah, no, he didn't play here.

They're gonna get him.

He was guy had

already boss

Randy boss.

Yeah,

same.

Yeah, great.

You're exactly

like look our lack room can handle this guy I'm like come on because we we could have used him you got admit No,

but

they passed on the talent because of the attitude.

Yeah, you're right.

But yeah, it was a good move.

Yeah,

all right

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Hey,

thank you very much.

Welcome back.

Good morning, guys.

Green Bay Natural Hard Bodies Championships up and listening.

Thanks, guys.

See you at the Meyer Theater.

Paul Hatler.

They were on here, and

that is going to

be a great show that starts tomorrow at...

I can get the time on that because I think it was 1130.

The door is open.

Let me look that up.

I got that Paul.

It's in my stack somewhere.

Paul, give us a quick call.

Yes.

Give us the time again.

I know

it's

the... You know what I was shocked at?

920-2640606 is the number, by the way.

You

get that?

This

is what I've

done.

That's that's for us.

Oh, I

got

you.

I got you.

920-2640.

That's her studio.

All right.

All right.

Give us a call.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But when I said cover that, like I said, in Arizona, it was real big out there.

Yeah.

All right.

But it was like probably lots of them were juicy.

Not even a question.

Oh, yeah.

They don't do that.

Yeah.

So I'm surprised.

These are not heavy people.

No.

For bodybuilding, which is really unusual.

But the

strength is

there.

Yeah.

Yes, it's not the big bulk.

It's just the tone and definition, I would imagine.

I've been working on my tone and definition.

You

can say it's not like you know, you're talking about there.

Yeah, I do.

I

do.

I was the program director for a morning show and the gal on the show actually decided she was going to do that.

So she trained for a whole year and we followed her during that whole process from start to finish.

And she actually won one

of

her competitions.

So I'm just throwing it out there.

If one of you wants to

they have a senior circuit.

They do have a senior

circuit.

Wow.

Well,

you're from what

they're going to be back in a year.

What's what is it?

Yeah.

Right.

Okay.

We are.

I did wine all week about pulling that muscle in my back.

Yep.

The one day on the universal machine here.

The little thing that would that be a factor you think it's that's a bad muscle to her too, man.

I think you know what?

I might do this.

Oh my.

What?

I'm not joking.

I might do this.

You are going to first of all, but whatever.

Okay.

Go ahead.

What a great way to lose weight.

Oh, there's a lot of the upside to it.

Yes.

You just got to do it.

I'm thinking about this.

All right.

Thinking about this.

Okay.

Here's Paul just texted in.

So this is what you get to my earth theater, which is great.

It's good.

I love the sight lines.

The parking there is great.

Everything about it.

11 a.m.

is prejudging.

So that's when they come out and kind of parade themselves out there and do other little fancy poses.

And then three o'clock is when

it really gets going with the competition and kind of some crowd engagement there.

That's cool.

But also the thing I think would be pretty cool to watch is when the Mandy was it was sitting right next to me here for

the first time that her.

No, she's one that she's got her teachers kickboxing.

Oh, yeah.

OK.

OK.

But it.

But anyway, I mean, it sounds like it's very artistic, almost, where you have your specific music.

Molly.

Molly.

I'm sorry, Molly.

Yeah, they pick their own music,

which is cool.

I think that'd be kind of cool to see how they do that, how they incorporate that.

I'm all through with barbershop music.

Get them on the jam.

I think it'd be even better if you

were

out there

performing

and singing at the same time.

Sharks and cowboy boots.

Yes.

I, I think that

would work.

I like it.

I

move on.

Michael says, um, Baron Sorrell of the Packers, uh, the Texas pick class act.

Shadoor is a punk.

Says Michael.

I, I, I hate using that word on somebody.

Okay.

No, I like that word, but sometimes there's one word that can, you know what I mean?

And you just kind of know, you know what I mean?

I

think that's a good word.

I think that, I don't think there's too, what does that mean?

People know what that means.

Yeah, guys are punk.

You know, it's like cocky.

I mean,

so many things this morning.

I never thought I heard Jim say,

guys

are punk.

And then

also

this is where they come out on

stage.

This is when they preen.

But I was actually thinking of Baron when I was talking about the fact that some people are just so thankful they get drafted and all that kind of stuff.

He was the one I was thinking of.

Absolutely.

His grace and thanks to his family and the team and the town, goodness sakes.

And you know what they always talk about, you know, we're kind of a locker room guy, is he?

Bad locker room guys can do a lot of damage.

They really, I mean, especially to these young guys, so much damage.

Another text here, Jim needs to wear a Speedo on his body

sculpting.

No, J.M.

John Minow.

Oh, that's a Jim.

Well, I just, I want to do something where I can really show off my thighs.

I'm gonna I'm gonna load them down with bees wax or bees pollen.

I really am there's a gonna glue you talk about effervescent My thighs could be unbelievable.

Do they have a competition just for thighs?

You know like you When Tom has that smirk nothing good cuz I'm

trying not to say anything because I'm using all this audio for a promo

Oh, cuz

the John saying he wants to do something with his thighs.

Yes, and

then using the term effervescence.

Yes.

What does that mean John?

Glowing.

It's glowing.

It means glowing.

I thought that was what you get when you pop like Elka Seltzer in a jar.

Isn't that effervescence?

I think that what effervescence means is that it's showy.

I don't think it's glowing as much as it is.

It's showy.

It's effervescent.

Oh, there's

different types of effervescence.

There is.

There's different levels.

I can't use my phone, but I'm going to look that up.

Text

here, I just threw up in my mouth over John's thigh comment.

I got great thighs can't hide them great calves Okay, one last thing about the draft thing.

Yeah, okay In regards to this, you know, there's some business That's the one John Johnny's on

that Terry sent that

Thank you in retrospect in retrospect in retrospect and again, you're not talking about you know I know you guys at the shelter getting a lot of stuff Okay, and whatever but what I'm saying is um

If there was coming again, let's say it was you know, hey, you've got a five-year contract or whatever What would you as a guy now seeing the big picture seeing the inside workings of it to sing the good What what if you could have a mulligan a do-over and not even saying you're kind in there, but just enjoy what would you do different?

Okay, couple things.

When is it's not over?

Because it's still being talked about quite a bit.

And we have

Steve Grenier who runs DPW and was pretty instrumental in a lot of this stuff.

Because he was in the security meetings because, in front of my mind, told me that.

He's coming on our show next week just to give him his assessment.

And I think that's a really, really good question for him.

Because he's probably, I mean, he gets paid plenty.

He's retiring.

He may consult a little bit.

And maybe he'll just go to the next NFL drafts and say, you know what?

This is

I

tell you what, he has said no, because I

came back to

know just people say, you know, oh, when

you were in office, you mean?

No, no, no, just even there.

OK, even there.

He like somebody might say, well, let's do this and this.

And he would say, oh, he's not.

He's very, very confident guy at Michigan Tech, Eagle Scout.

I mean, he's he he can say no.

But I want to ask him.

if he thought it was great, because he was very much looking forward to this.

And he said, I'm going to do the draft and I'm going to retire after that.

So yeah, he'll come on next week.

But what would I do different?

You know, first of all, even before we get to that, like, was it successful?

And I, as I told you the other day, you got to define success.

And what does that mean to John Minow?

What does it mean to Jim Schmidt?

What does it mean to Eric Ingerich?

What does it mean to Troy Stuckenbach?

What does success mean?

And my world of success is...

you know, economic development.

It just is.

I just, I love that.

I try to do that.

I think it's important.

And I'm not sure we realize that to the fullest extent, but I don't know.

I mean, I'm just, it's what I read in the paper and here on.

I think we misread

the crowd

and not size-wise.

People are saying.

Their interest.

They wanted to come here.

What was it?

99% of the people over there were wearing a team jersey, right?

They're hardcore football people.

God bless your supper clubs.

God bless your whatever whatever is.

We want football and you know, we want to drive it's that kind of a crowd Yeah, that's that's what I assume and another thing that we totally misjudged here in a little bit Like we were talking about you know having supper club tours and taking okay, but the draft was at night.

Do you know what I mean?

Right,

so that was prime entertainment

exactly

exactly.

Yeah, yeah

Right,

and if you're doing that all day, it might be tough to get out of bed and

get ready to

take a two-hour tour

absolutely

But I think the other thing that the communities were engaged to do was try to book in this thing that granted the draft is Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.

But you got to do events on Wednesday to get them in.

And then you got to do events on Saturday when they stay

over.

And

that

didn't really.

No, but you know what?

And I think in our mind, we had Super Bowl.

How the Super Bowl was good, but there was nothing going I mean there's a lot of stuff going on during Super Bowl week But nothing that you had to go to like with this draft there if you came to town from Cleveland You had to be in the draft campus because that's why you came here with the Super Bowl.

You can kind of take your pick Well today, what should we do?

What should we do tomorrow night?

Yeah, you know more of that thing I think we assumed it's gonna be more of a that type thing But the way the NFL controls those tight those time spots There's yeah, that's it man.

So that