Food Trucks and Football Fans

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Food Trucks and Football Fans

Maino and the Mayor · Wed Apr 30, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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John Maino

Good Morning happy Wednesday to you.

It is a little chill air out there than you would think 36 in Green Bay 36 in Avton 38 in Oshkosh, but a cold wind coming Okay, would you call the Northland tell me if they're flag of please yeah, thank you How am I supposed to a weather forecast if people aren't gonna fly their legs?

What if you had a guest just off the other flag?

So what were you gonna say?

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Southeast 12 miles an hour.

It says East 6.

Yeah,

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it's not that one.

It was it was it was twice as bad when I came in.

Of course.

It's calm down.

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Yeah.

Happy Jazz Day.

Okay.

Yeah, some

jazz is good.

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Yeah.

Kind of one of those things though kind of like bluegrass.

It's really fun for a while Then it kind of starts sounding a little bit of light.

Yeah, it all sounds the same

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if you don't know that

on a lot of genres

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like Barbershop,

Polka, is that the same song?

Irish music but jazz what's cool about jazz is They can just keep it going.

I mean, it's not like

a it's

not like a score.

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They just

like pick it up and they just jam jazz is I love it

Well, it's great.

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All I'm saying is if I had a CD and I'm driving to the U.P.

Half hour, you know what I mean?

By the time I got to like so biscuit.

OK, got it.

Yeah, get it.

Good.

Not a single one either.

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No, no, no, no, no, no.

Bubble tea day.

That's been a huge thing over the last few years.

It

kind of is.

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Yeah.

OK.

All right.

Golf Day, National Golf Day.

All right.

I could see that.

Magic course has got to be opening around here pretty quick.

I would think.

No, yeah.

Uh, guide dog day.

What's amazing.

How many, those dogs, what, what they do,

but we got to get that guy back on here.

Remember, we're going to sponsor one of those.

It's like the dog.

It's not a dog anymore.

Yeah.

And you can program it.

Take me to the

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daily electronic thing.

Yeah.

That thing was only like eight or bucks.

Remember what we thought it was going to be like.

five

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grand or something like

that and he goes and he ordered one and he said it was going to come in like there was a waiting list I think he was 10 12 14 months out but I'd like to talk to him about that because I agree as much as I love dogs and you know the compassion and all that that thing is like unbelievably safe what

Milton would be so jealous if he got

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one.

You could still have the dog.

He would come home and

be like, pieces missing.

You could just, but it actually, you know, the dog

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was.

It'd be like under your bed, pieces of it.

But the dog has slowed down, but this, they'll say, you know, approaching a bench, you know,

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they just.

I know, it's amazing.

It is.

Was that lady we had here who went through so much stuff?

Yeah, she had a tough life.

Yeah.

So I

mean, that's about this time of year.

And I'm going to chase him down because I would really like to see if he ever got that.

piece of equipment showed up, but it's just like a stroller and he talked to it.

That was

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cool.

Robotics with our era didn't have a Todd.

No.

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And we had erector sets.

Did you see today, Johnny, in 83, which is not that long ago, you and me, to a lot of people, it is the worldwide web started.

I

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mean, 1983.

Yeah, I didn't even know it was that far back.

To be honest with you.

Yeah, I remember.

Okay.

Oh, you know what I remember?

I remember I would

be

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right

because we're working on

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but late 80s when at the TV station and They wheeled in the first and it's a listen Nobody touches this unless you go through a training period.

Yeah, nobody touches it Understood and we will list exactly the procedures on how to use this.

You know what it was

A fax machine.

I just found this on the line about this.

Today is the day.

You're right.

1993.

Oh, 93.

So in 1989, the concept for the World Wide Web was kind of devised in someone's head.

But in 1993,

where the World Wide Web was actually launched into public domain.

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Have you watched that one movie?

It's actually pretty good.

And then they did the spin-off kind of with Silicon Valley, or whatever the name of that show was, about all the big jobs and with Paul Allen and all these guys as like college kids.

They weren't just dorky college kids for lack of better words.

And back then we didn't respect them like we should have.

Like the whole dot com thing, those kids were all

Remember

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I told you about that kid is making that and I don't mean if I don't mean I don't mean to make myself what I don't whatever But I had that statistics class, which I never would have passed at Arizona State remember I told you yes, and we had this one kid that was just brilliant Just brilliant, but really poor kid just really nerdy look, you know thick lag God bless something I mean I would love to know where he is now because he got like an a plus He would ever the the professor I remember graduate for one of those guys graduate from college at 16 from Michigan State

So he was way, but you know what I mean?

He couldn't quite relate.

And this kid just, oh my God.

Oh, so, you know, where is that?

Who is that?

No, probably in some while and with some really good looking.

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Who is he now?

You know, I would give anything to find out.

Did you, did you ever,

I remember where Facebook first came out.

Yeah.

And I remember people go, oh, the radio station has got to get on Facebook.

It's so important.

I'm like, you know, I was one of the,

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the people are like, ah,

it's not going

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to do

it.

You know, yeah.

Yeah.

And now Facebook, you know, just is secondary to all the other social media that's out there.

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Yeah.

Yeah.

But yeah.

Um, today is Bugs Bunny Day.

What kind of, you know, I was driving down Walnut yesterday and Tarleton has his marquee out about Sunday or a Saturday morning cartoon brunch.

Is it modern cartoons or is it the old school?

Cause if my granddaughter's visit, I would love to take them there.

I know he's got the old cereals, not serious old, but he's got, you know,

I mean, you can still buy Twix and all that or whatever his tricks.

Um, I don't know.

That's a good question.

I think it's a really cool

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kid.

So I'm wondering if my youngest granddaughter, would she still get a kick out of the Bugs Bunny?

Oh, like I do.

What year did they stop showing cartoons before movies?

I mean, you could go to basically an R rated movie and they would show Bugs Bunny cartoons beforehand.

But Bugs Bunny, there's

Oh, yeah, he was

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oh,

yeah, he's a little

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bit like a little edgy,

but he was funny.

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Oh God, I mean those are those are great.

Oh, yeah,

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what a gig that would have been back in those days, huh?

Man Yeah,

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today is denim day.

I'll never you know, you know, I saved my money for working at the holiday gas station to buy Bell bottoms something you have very close that was part of it part of the ensemble.

Oh really a jacket

that's the whole thing

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Wow

Denim leisure suit.

Yeah.

Wow.

Where's

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that?

Hang on to that.

Yeah, that's probably does have it,

Jim.

Yeah, you probably do.

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Yes, I waste 28.

So this is this is a true story.

I was so excited.

Oh, by the way, I got to tell you guys something else.

I might be I might be leaving.

Oh, well, I might because I'm gonna get my masters.

Oh, yeah.

For

what?

I'm

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gonna show you guys

that matchbook cover thing.

I think they did away

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with

that

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Did you ever think about subscribing to that?

I subscribed to one or not subscribed I wrote to one thing how to be a sport how to be an NFL sportscaster Yeah, and it was a guy in New York Who's a guy and you know to take this correspondence class?

Yeah, it was BS Yeah, I'm gonna show you this that I you tell me that this wouldn't be perfect for me to get my online masters, but I might go

in person Go ahead and read it

online masters in World War two studies.

Yeah That

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sounds so what can you do with that?

Right?

That's right.

I would love to do that

I think it would be good for you.

It would give you something to do like really intensive study

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I'm writing my book right now.

I'm hardcore to that there you go, but I would like to not even joking I would like to do that

Continuing education.

I'll

go.

Yeah, that's fun, but that's gonna cost you what eight grand?

Well, I didn't think of that part.

Well, I'm just saying why would you do why I think to learn more about world

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because I'm gonna be a professor Jim.

I'm gonna go to my own college.

I told you I a minor school of learning

you and Mm-hmm.

Did somebody else go down

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for that?

His

desks.

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All right, fine.

I did I told you what I got to do.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah to see even at TC.

You know, you've got a

Three

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years,

but that's not as easy as you think either, but it seems interesting.

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I mean, I'd

love to do it We can't get you a lot of degree, but you can you know,

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I don't know I have no idea Yeah, but anyway.

Oh, so anyway, so I was working overtime at the holiday gas station to save my money to buy a denim leisure suit, okay?

Okay.

Because I was going down, I was going to make my first trip to Arizona state

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and I was

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going to go meet Frank Kush, the football coach about working for his, his, uh, program.

And I saved up all my money to get a denim leisure suit.

So today is denim leisure suit day.

So that's, I like

it.

Oh man.

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Did I feel like

music to,

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uh, had a, uh, the color was out.

Yeah.

Color was out.

John Travolta

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type thing, right?

Yeah.

And it was probably, why don't they make polyester shirts anymore?

Those were the most comfortable shirts and polyester pants.

You can say what you want Polyester pants were the most comfortable pants of all time true.

I Don't remember why polyester pants

ever palester

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shirts.

I had yeah, you never had to iron them

True they did kind of stretch.

I don't

know.

It's like iron a plastic bag.

This is mine.

I'll walk in

and right right right

right.

This

is

it

Oh my

god.

With the big

lapel at the big collars.

And that fro you had?

Yep.

Had the fro.

Had some pukabits.

Oh my god.

Oh man.

And then people are like, I'll give him six months.

Ladies, if you're

watching, you get a little hot.

Over under

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Remember the guy remember the guy who are the two guys are saying night live?

He's good at night and get shut down all the time remember I will I think Will Ferrell was one of the guys then they even made a move We have it the

two the three the night at the Roxbury.

Yes.

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Yes.

I looked like one of those guys Yes, today is also adopt a shelter pet day.

I'm all for that

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Did you is that what you did?

That's not yeah, always what I do.

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That's cool.

That's very cool

Happy birthday gal Gadot Captain America.

No not Captain America the

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other one Wonder Woman.

She was Wonder

Woman.

She did it

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well.

Yes, she did.

That was a good movie actually.

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Yeah, actually I saw it.

Yeah.

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Yeah, um Johnny Galecki 50 years old Johnny Galecki's most memorable wine Todd.

Wow.

Hey Rusty, how about you help dad and we try to find the busted light

I'd love to dad, but I got finished my homework watch the car feed the horse feed the hogs feed the hogs.

Yeah Thanks, rusty.

I say at Thomas 64.

It's funny when I was working in Flint, Michigan Get a phone call like 637 court of seven at night Hey Hey Um Matt talk with Lisa Just Isaiah.

Yes, sir.

He was going out with our anchor lady.

Oh in color every night.

I really show.

Yeah

So that was pretty cool.

Marie Osmond?

No, Meryl.

Meryl Osmond.

What are the brothers?

You don't even get a day.

Sorry, buddy.

Wow.

I wonder

who picks that.

He's

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got to

be just...

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Like, really, Meryl?

Yeah, he's got to be very happy today.

My name's on there.

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My name's on the birthday list in Green Bay.

Meryl.

Appletut and Oshkosh.

Happy birthday,

Meryl.

Listen, he's no Liberace.

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No, he's not.

Orway-noten.

But he's got a date.

Hey!

Todd's working on something.

Amanda's

working

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on it.

Amanda's working on

it.

We're trying to get him on

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the show.

Oh

my god.

I'd be too nervous to handle that one.

I know.

I

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should

have

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been over there fangirling about it.

Do you remember that one time?

Wait, wait, wait.

Do you remember that one time in Las Vegas?

Remember that thing?

And I was there and you came out and you sang.

You sang.

That was awesome!

That was

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always

cool.

Michael Jackson?

That was always cool,

flying into Las Vegas,

overweight, overweight in Vegas.

Hit a ranch!

Yeah, anyway, I don't know where he lives now.

I've got a story about that actually that ties into my family his ranch.

Yeah.

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Okay, we got to hear that.

Yeah.

That's gonna beat the hell of my denim leisure.

Already

has.

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Got a couple of texts here, John.

You could teach that class without getting a masters.

Thank you, Brian.

Thank you, man.

Um, another one, as John, if he knows the only NFL team not to draft a quarterback in the first round during the last 50 years, William, I do not.

She's Curt Nick.

No, no idea.

No, I have.

I do not know going

off what William says.

Do you want to know?

Yeah, he says New Orleans.

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Oh, really?

Well, sucky.

I would probably.

Yeah.

I

wouldn't guess that.

No, me neither.

So good question, William.

So I listened on the way in today.

Yes, cheese.

And you talked about Facebook, how it, you know, when it first started, remember when Facebook was just farmland, you know, Farmville and food pictures and pet pictures and now it's political posts and everything else that everybody gets all stirred up about.

John Maino

Okay.

I will say one thing.

I don't think I've ever taken a picture of that.

I think maybe I'm the only person to

to not have done this, okay?

I've never taken a picture of food.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

How some people, no matter where they go, oh, I'm gonna show you what I mean.

Even like at a

cookout or like, like somebody's got a grill going or

anything.

I don't think of the food.

I much rather see a picture of food than I would themselves in front of whatever

they are.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah.

But I don't know.

I think, no, I think that's... Really?

Yeah.

You've never taken a picture of you when you

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got served a drink.

We're not just buying me out.

Like really good food, like if you sat down

and didn't just put the waiter's, puts it down and you just take a picture of this, people think...

Like, that's not weird to do that.

Really?

Oh, yeah.

Like, if you're at a

Michelin, if you're at

a

Michelin five-star restaurant.

Or when they come with the desserts, this is unbelievable.

Or when Nick shows up with brats, I take

a

picture

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of that.

Of course.

You know what did not seem Nick like this morning?

What's that?

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Caring in cringles.

Yeah, I did.

It's not that cringly kind of guy.

Me?

I'm not?

Oh, yeah, I'm you see more like it's get the grease flyin.

I'll tell you one thing when you talk about cringles Uncle Mike's really like they don't just do it.

Well, they smash they hit grand slams

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And I'm gonna say this cuz I take one up to my deer hunt camp ever not just our camp every every time I go my brother and I mean he'll call me it goes

Tell me again what this is.

Cause we don't really have cringles up there.

I didn't know what a cringle was.

We had coffee cake.

But he's like... Not even close.

Seriously,

what is this?

This is like... And they have so many varieties now.

Even at this Booyah thing, they

had the cringle contest.

They had samples this morning of their French toast one at one.

And then I had a slice of it on my go.

Oh my

God.

Yeah.

But that... Their most famous one is the... The turtle.

Isn't it?

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Yeah, the

sea salt I'd said this before but we have some friends and we thought for Christmas you'll send them one of those and now they're like they really It's

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locked into that like your brother.

They're so good because they don't get them They can't just drive by and stuff it and get them and I never get

cringles, but not on

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my knees.

Yeah, and then

She's like, well, let's send them Apple this year.

I'm like, no, I think they really, you know, that number one is-

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You know what I brought up this year?

I brought up the pumpkin.

And he said it was phenomenal.

The pumpkin kringle.

Well, what's, when I say they grand slam it is like, cause Racine is supposedly the home of the Kringle, right?

They were for years though, Nick.

Years and years.

When you compare, you know, the Racine Kringle is like this thick.

Right.

You know what I mean?

Right.

And then Uncle Mike's is like that thick and it's delicious.

You know, it's like- I agree.

They

knocked him out.

you know, when they went after the award, you know, and Mike's, and I think they've held it ever since.

But we're seeing was kind of known for cringles.

You

know, 10 years ago, what's

we're

seeing

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known

for?

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Yeah, I will

say this when

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I go north.

I always thought.

My friend was the mayor there.

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When you're from a more of an isolated area like the UP, you know what I mean?

Okay.

There are things around here just on the whole way up.

They say I used to love it for my mom.

I'd stop an iron mountain that Italian bakery.

get cornetties and whatever, you know, things that you can't, you, and the same thing around here, there's things I bring up, like I'll stop at one of the meat markets.

Like I love going down to Red Cross where you get married.

Oh yeah.

Connips.

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Connips.

I mean, just, it's like a candy store.

Stingled them.

Stingled them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's where I used to get my brats.

Yeah.

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So it's like people around here, I don't know if we realize, you know, what we've got around here, that when you take this to other areas, it's like,

Holy crap.

Chocolates too, you know, some

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of the really, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the,

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the,

the, the,

the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

I don't think it's too much, but I want to get back to you.

I can't believe you don't take pictures.

You think that's weird or you just never done it?

What was

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your point?

Well, when you're sitting in a restaurant and you get your food, it's like, oh, I'm going to take a picture and show everybody what I'm going to eat.

I don't

know that the waiter thinks that's weird.

I think he probably thinks that's awesome.

I would think that if you're going to take up, you're not going to take pictures of McDonald's, right?

I would do this.

I would take a picture.

I would

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take a picture if I went towards the Black Otter.

Yeah.

And they got

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like the.

Yes.

I take it for 64 hours.

Here we go.

That's the thing.

That is true.

That is true.

There were people when we ordered that, there were people who didn't order it, they were taking pictures

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of it.

We need to bring it to our table.

Yeah, that I could see.

And that's not like...

Did you charge

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them?

Yeah.

Pay for your meals.

It's not like you set it out that night and sometimes it's just for a memory for you.

You don't have to

forward

it.

Well memory

and the other thing is is that like if you go like say you go to Hotel Northland or like Hotel Seymour or you go to the Glidden Lodge or whatever and you're at the Glidden Lodge.

That is a good place.

Yes.

So you take a picture.

Have you been there?

Oh you got to go to the Glidden Lodge.

Where your pound is that?

Bring your pocket.

It's on the lake side.

It's

on the lake side.

It's north of Sturgeon Bay.

Tiny little out in the middle of it.

Oh yeah but everything is phenomenal there but what I'm I think when you get something like really good like that

I think you want to share it with the world.

You don't go back to the World Wide Web.

You want to take a picture of this and say, you need to come here, because this food is this delicious.

And so much of

food is presentation.

Like the way you stack your cheese curds, it's

presentation.

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John Maino

When Nick comes here, we get distracted.

It's not because of Nick, it's because of the food he brings in.

That

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is really good.

Let's be honest with the listeners.

I will bring you a piece of that cheesecake Kringle he brought in.

It's delicious.

Why are you not?

Are you on a diet all of a sudden?

No, no, no.

But I just I'm trying to watch.

They're cut into one inch

strips.

They are.

They're really small.

Yeah, but I'll have more than one.

Well, see, when I make chocolate chip cookies, I make them like 50 cent pieces.

So you could eat more.

Bring a bag.

I've had a

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couple.

Don't mind me as I take photos of the cheese curds I got and post them on my Facebook.

Sarah.

She was out at the draft and

she

was taking pictures from all the food

trucks that she was checking out.

She was supposed to work for me and I'm sorry, Sarah, that we couldn't throw you in.

She knows why.

So

anyway, I

think that's fine.

And the other I was thinking about this when I, um, I think people send a lot of pictures of desserts.

Cause I think there's art in desserts.

Like there's a lot of art.

You look at the cakes now, right?

You look at cakes now.

That's like ridiculous on the amount of work, TD and it's tedious.

It's not like hack work.

It's,

but they hired that guy over at the Northland and that was his specialty.

It wasn't.

It was a good chef, but oh my god, what he did with pastries and bakery and anyway, that's so those are pictures I think are worth thinking.

Anyway, that's great.

And cheese curds.

And cheese curds.

And cheese curds.

They have cakes now, yeah, and cheese.

They have cakes now like, like for like, people like horror stuff and all that.

They'll like have an arm.

and they'll cut into it.

And you think the arm is real.

You look at the arm and it looks like it's real.

They cut into them.

Oh my God.

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So Nick, cheese curd, Nick, you were in the trenches.

I was in the trenches.

Yes.

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Just give us your overall synopsis from start to finish.

Well, it, you know, I was, I was pessimistic.

I will say I was pessimistic.

I will eat my words.

You know, it was better than way better than I thought because I really, I didn't think with how not necessarily

how, you know, stadium view does it right.

I will say this stage stadium view time and time again, does it right?

You know, they had 18 bands.

Um, the layout was perfect, but I think a lot of things like Ashwabanan allowed 75 food trucks in, you know, into Ashwabanan total.

Um, almost 60 of which was on our side of town, you know, that whole roll, you know, from Coppins corner all the way down and Mike McCarthy way.

Um,

There's a lot of people that are suffering.

Now, you know, I did, I did fairly well.

But there's a lot of trucks, you know, hot bitties out of Appleton.

I believe they posted, they prepped a thousand pounds of chicken for their chicken

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sandwiches.

And they didn't show up after day one.

They did not come back.

15 trucks, 15 trucks that I know have packed up and left and did not finish the draft.

Yeah.

And.

Look,

people say it was successful.

Well, you know, how do you judge success?

And you don't have to tell me right now, but I judge success different than other people.

I mean, you talk to the chief, it's like, well, of course it was successful.

We had one arrest and what, seven?

That was very successful.

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Right.

So

that's easy success.

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Which category of success are you talking about?

Well, in the

NFL, success to them is 14 million viewers on TV and 600,000 people over the three days.

Successful to them.

Exactly.

I walked into the homeless community shelter on Sunday and I couldn't believe the food that was donated.

And that, I didn't like that feeling because that was because some people weren't successful.

You know, they were hurting a little bit.

You know, Marguerite, I know Marguerite has suffered.

I know Red Lobster suffered.

So I took my crew out.

I took some of my crew out on Sunday to Texas Roadhouse.

They were like, you know, they asked, Hey, what, what are you guys talking about?

Oh, you know, I was a food truck.

Draft.

I'm like, how did you guys do?

We had to send people home.

So then I went with another food truck friend of mine to Longhorn to the next night.

He was at the bar.

He did so-so.

He actually just, just about broke even.

He said he broke even, but we went to Longhorn.

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I was talking to a guy yesterday who hosted the autograph things.

Okay, the distillery.

I asked him, hey, how'd it go?

He goes, I broke out even.

Um, it's exactly his exact

words.

And anyway, so we went, we went to Longhorn

where I went gambling.

I broke even.

We will, and some people think breaking even is winning.

And sometimes it is winning.

But anyway, Longhorn, they sent people home.

They overstaffed and they sent people home halfway through shifts.

Uh, you know what it's easy to say at the end of the event and a lot of people, you know, Fox 11 and W F R V have both posted.

Some unfortunate situations for some food trucks and stuff like that and not just food trucks, but I know the candy shop and Kakana You know they only sold 10% of the stuff they brought 10% of what they brought

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they've been on our show where that was the one I felt really bad about Yeah, we know them.

I felt terrible about that.

We're big advocates, right?

So

we love small businesses, right?

But

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here

let me ask you a little bit time, but

So if you had to give advice to Pittsburgh and a really good friend of ours used to work for me is very involved in this in Pittsburgh.

Like were you misled or did you with what happened?

Because that lady that I read about 92% she took home.

Yeah, that's like that's like everything.

That's like everything.

It's like why show up?

Well, here's again, but

outside.

She wasn't like I don't talk about downtown later, but I'm talking about you can see the stadium.

You're not in the fenced area, but you can see the stadium.

All right.

Those people, they suffered a little bit, I think.

Well, they suffered.

Yeah.

And some of these people were right by the entrance, like military mark, the military that act, you know, they were lined up over by military, you know, some of the trucks there didn't do well.

Here's the thing.

It's high.

You know, you can look back and say, well, you know what?

This was easy.

The writing was on the wall.

You could tell.

But I, the reason why I thought.

We weren't going to do very well before the draft, you know, cause for three weeks I was like, you could ask my wife.

She even said yesterday I was talking to someone on the phone and she said, almost cost you a divorce, you know, but she's joking around on that.

But,

you know, the stress level, she told me, but

I'm sure the cash, but the stress level, it's amazing how the stress level just, it just like wash, you wash a straight on Sunday.

The stress level just got washed right off of me.

But anyway, people came here for the draft.

And and what I'm saying that when I obviously yes, that's a dumb comment, but here Jim I know what you're saying and

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I was gonna talk

about If you're driving or flying across the cut let's say you're a Raiders fan or you're a 49ers fan or you're a Giants fan you're coming Green Bay Pittsburgh Kansas City wherever You're going for the draft you're getting there at 11 a.m.

Or 12 8 12 p.m.

When the gates open and you're gonna stay for the whole thing because

You're spending your hard earned money to go to the draft and you're not going to go, you're not going to go to Door County.

You're not going to go to the East side of Green Bay.

You're not going to go to Suamico.

You're not going to go to Kokona.

You know.

Okay.

Okay.

That's kind of my point.

But why would they do that?

Because entrepreneurs are pretty smart people.

I mean, you guys have the sixth sense of, okay, I'm going to make

some money and back.

Wait, let me finish.

Let me finish

here.

Were they?

Yeah, that's what I'll talk to Greg about in Pittsburgh.

Were you misinformed were you misled or were you just greedy thinking?

Oh my god, we're gonna have 200,000 people parachute into this community I'm setting up a food truck or did somebody say you set up a food truck because there's gonna be some

well I think there's a little bit of greed There's a lot of greed because we talked off the I'm not gonna name drop who I said about the burgers, but You know you look inside Delaware north, you know $15 for a burger of a local

business was selling up over $20 for a burger.

There's greed in that.

But like, I think, and I love, you know, I love, you know, I love Ashwabana.

You know, they, they're very smart on what they do for entertainment.

They, for the most part, but they let, I think that they should have monitored how many food trucks were signing up to set up for the draft.

Because I think that market was flooded.

Okay.

In Ashwabana, especially cause there was over 70, over 70 signed up.

And again, I think that should have been regulated a little bit because you're concentrating.

If you walk down, I know you guys walk down Lombardi, but if you walk down Mike McCarthy, every single one of those businesses had a food truck in front of it.

So a stone.

We walked up Lombardi.

I know what you're saying.

So there's a food truck here.

There's a food truck there.

There's a food truck there that you can't.

That's not

good.

But when you go in for a $15 sandwich in the Packer zone, to me,

That's a lot, but the event is free.

So I can spend 15,

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I

can justify that.

Had I spent a hundred bucks to get in, I went, nah, that's crazy.

But I don't know that people

were leaving.

That's exactly it.

You know, that goes back to my thing of you're not going to Door County.

You know, you look at- No, I'm talking about leaving just to go to a food truck and come back.

Well, there's that too.

But I think overall you're staying inside.

Now, you might leave because out of those 18 food trucks, four were dessert and coffee.

You know, so now you're down to 14 and you got 200,000 people that trying to eat off of 14 trucks, you know, the lines are going to be long.

You know, the bathrooms were all in one corner.

You know, those bathrooms were not out in the draft theater.

So that's why I'm sure you guys seen those videos online and I'll go to the bathroom.

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I just want to throw in one thing and I'm just getting this from, um, from, um, just my experiences that very first night.

Okay.

And what I was thinking and just

Hearing people and talk with people whatever it was a hardcore football crowd.

I mean and you made that point about going to draft I mean I would hear over here.

Yeah, but you know who I think in the fourth round We could get so and so but if we don't trade up and that was the conversation going all Around me it wasn't hey, I heard about this supper club 30 miles an hour.

It was diehard draft For lack of better word and they look say draft geeks who were there on a mission

for the draft.

Well, right, right.

And that's what they're doing.

You know, the draft people are, you know, they're fans, but they're different people.

But I think overall, when you look at it, when you look back at it, I think the information was there, but everybody was tunnel vision.

They weren't seeing it that way.

You know what I mean?

They weren't, I guess, I'm probably not saying it, right?

But what I'm saying is they came for the draft.

And when you go to an event, you know, like how the 15, you know what?

Oh my God, it's $15 for a burger inside and are 13 for a.

a broad and whatever it was, it was expensive, okay?

But it's just like going anywhere else.

If you go to a Packard, if you go to when Dallas stadium, the new Dallas stadium first opened up, my uncle told me he went there on the floor, the standing room only, a pitcher of beer and a pizza was $200 when Jerry World first opened.

A 14 inch deluxe and a pitcher of beer was $200.

What are you gonna say?

I'm gonna go to the next pizza shop in the stadium.

Because the next pizza shop is going to be the same amount.

So you're going to, you're going to buy it because you're trapped.

Another thing though, too, with the

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draft, you're kind of, if you're invested in the draft and you're just as concerned with the Vikings going to take in that third round as you know, whatever, it's, it's like.

It's an all day thing.

I mean, the NFL, see what you want, they have done such an amazingly great job of capturing people and keeping those people.

Well, right.

And here's the thing.

I'm not trying to put a black eye on a draft with what we're talking about now.

I think it sounds like the overall view of the draft was very good.

You know, again, the police, what did they, they had four, I just listened to it on the way in.

four total drunk driving tickets out of how many people, you know, they did the shuttle service, the safe ride service, very smart.

They had bus services, very smart.

They did everything, you know, other than, it's very unfortunate.

I feel bad for the food trucks that did not make, I do, because the problem is that some of these people, I don't know how they're going to pay their food

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bills.

I got just let me just read a couple of these real quick here Okay, um got this one in every single event especially this magnitude and this small of a community They're always going to be winners and losers every single person I came across from outside of our community was so impressed They couldn't even believe the community pulled this off.

That's from Mike another one This from William thing John did a great job moderator of the Jack Vanese event at Heritage Hill last Saturday great event William

Well, thank you William.

I want to talk more about that.

This is from Brian Green Bay real quick.

Uh, good morning.

Talk about the draft.

My wife and I ordered an event venue.

The Packers NFL told all venues a year and a half ago to block out the whole week of the draft because every venue will be booked.

Now one venue in Green Bay was booked.

We had to turn away multiple weddings for that week and lost a lot of money.

I remember

that.

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Brian from Green Bay.

Quick break.

Back right after

this.

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Alright, welcome back everybody.

We are talking the NFL Post Draft.

We talked about the pre-draft for a year and a week.

Boy, how long has it been?

It's been all of a year.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah

Before we got it and then the then it was handed off

Well, I know in the summer time you guys were saying hey anything you know when I would come on and something hey anything new it's like But it was in the news every

day.

I think close

to it.

I'll tell you a story after

the news

cycle.

Yeah Clicker on the clicker on all the news.

You know so many days before the drive

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Let me tell you something have been the news business and having walked in or it's like

We got nothing.

How do we create, manufacture something?

Having something like a draft is your best friend.

There's always gonna be some angle you can take.

Well,

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and they,

yeah, they let stuff

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out too.

I wasn't in the news a lot.

I thought that

Media

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did a great job of covering everything.

I really do.

Yeah.

You know,

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you look

at it.

Pick up

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where you guys were right before we went to the break.

Well, we're, I don't know that, sir.

What I was saying is... About the

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food

trucks, too many food

trucks.

It's the post draft.

The draft is over, but let's say you have some friends in Pittsburgh that

aren't gonna be in the circle or in this fence or whatever they call that thing.

They're

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gonna

be out in the campus.

In the campus.

And

that one lady that talked just said, she sounded like she was just right outside.

Which one?

The one that

took 92% of her stuff home.

Well, was that the candy girl?

I'm

gonna look at this.

I got dessert, but I know.

Yeah, the sweet treats from Cacona or whatever.

I

don't know.

I don't know.

The point is that even close, they didn't make it.

So would you tell

people that you're not

in?

Don't

forget.

Oh, I wouldn't necessarily that though.

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So

you

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better be pretty close.

Well,

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what

about blocking out venues?

Like we tried stuff down here.

I don't know how Bay Beach did.

I didn't see any numbers on that.

Well, Bay

Beach was closed one day because of the rain.

Yeah, but that's not an inexpensive thing to fire up.

Well,

I think, I think Bay Beach, I think anybody that went to Bay Beach, there's a lot of locals that I know that were happy that Bay Beach opened up early.

Cause they were just going to take their kids there.

That's not why we did

it.

Well, but there's that.

But here, I would say if, you know, stadium, excuse me, stadium, you did it right.

They had 18 bands and 18 high profile bands from the area.

You know, they had Dennis from glam bands

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for

two nights.

They had grand union.

They had, they had carbon roll.

Yeah.

The wet possum.

I think if you're in Pittsburgh, you're going to want to look at one of those.

If they're, I've never been to Pittsburgh.

I do want to go.

Oh my

God.

I do want to go there for a game.

That's a good, I don't know the layout of the land there.

Basically what kind of, if there's, is it in an industrial, because I've been to Baltimore and there's nothing like Baltimore Raven stadium.

It's an industrial park.

There's nothing, you know, there's not sports bars around it and stuff like

that.

We're at the Northland.

Give some tours or one day and a lot of people staying there other ones who took the tours and there were two guys from Dick's Sporting Goods from corporate because they're a big sponsor of the NFL draft

and

I asked him I said how are things going over there and he goes We're discussing the layout.

I'm like that's a good thing to discuss and he was concerned He was naming some areas.

He thought I knew more than I did about well We're thinking of this area and that area, but they were thinking of maybe even two campuses and you know just

From a novice.

I'm like, I don't think that doesn't sound like a really good idea to me But you know because I think people once they get there they kind of want to stay there's what I don't think a lot of people left And I think it was

the

easiest thing to leave and get back in now.

It wasn't impossible But let's say you exit out on Ida Street to get back in you know, that's okay

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Okay, even okay even for yourself you left that district where Nick was the whole thing and you walked up to the entrance of the trap What was that walk like?

You know, it's a long

while you're also Retirement age

Oh, man.

It was

not

good.

I tell you what, if I was going to go the next day, because we went two days, I would have gone with the entrances, because it was too long of a walk.

And it wasn't a pleasant

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walk either.

I'm teasing you.

I'm teasing you.

OK, let me ask this.

Would you have done that?

You know, taking the shuttle from here to there, OK?

Right.

Go in there where we were the night.

First thing do all that stuff and that same night.

Would you have walked out and made that walk all the way down to where no get some cheap?

They didn't make the access very good.

I didn't I didn't

see you and to you know and Badger states their friends of ours.

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I mean when some buddies of mine call me I said I'll do one of two things I'll go down to the glam band do the whole or walk already dropped off at the front I didn't feel like walking back and forth between both

Sounds like a lazy old fat guy.

Okay.

That's fine.

I'll accept that.

But all I'm saying is, you know, we're also the guys that'll spend some money when we come there.

So

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it's like, I'm surprised they didn't make that access

a little bit easier.

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And I was wondering if that was an NFL security

reason.

Well, they originally said they didn't want to have any entrances on the east side of the campus because they didn't want to log jam in front of the stage.

That's what they said.

Well, there wasn't entrance.

It was VIP entrance.

It was VIP, but they didn't want to.

Gen pop they didn't

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want a

general population entrance on the east side because they didn't want a flood of people where it would log jam and up in front of the stage now I don't know if that's what I remember them saying that

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when the

layouts were first coming out, but anyway, I think I Honestly think you want to do some investing if you're from Pittsburgh and you want to be there You need to find a venue that's going to be doing above and beyond

You know what I mean?

To keep whatever, if you are going to be close to the venue.

The truck people outside of the campus.

Exactly, exactly.

So you need to

attach

yourself to the campus or to a venue that's well known outside the campus.

Because here's the thing with what did happen here, okay?

You know, you had all the food trucks down on our own.

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When I used to

have, when you didn't like me, my food, my hot dog cart.

That was last Tuesday.

When you didn't like me, I set up on the corner of Armed Forces and Anointed a Street for Packer Games.

All right.

You would think because you're right across the street from Lambeau field.

I'm going to make all this money.

The most I've ever done when I was there was $1,000.

And you want to know what year that was?

That was the year the Packers won a Super Bowl and we had that whole big shindig 2010 and 11.

Yeah.

The year after, you know, the opener when we played the saints and Randall Cobb.

That was my best.

Single-game Everdoner was a thousand dollars in food.

Otherwise it averaged between four and six hundred dollars for before and after.

Is that worth it?

I was gonna say with your time and he set up and

And that was back then and you know what I you know what it took me a year to figure it out And you know why?

Because you're getting gypsies you're getting people they're not coming to you to hang out They're not coming to you to hang out there.

You're gonna get somebody that got dropped off

or just got to stadium or whatever bar for a quick half an hour and then they're going.

They think you're the Costco guy with free samples.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So you're getting those.

I call them the gypsies.

And that's what you're getting.

You're not.

You're there's nothing to sustain them from staying.

You

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feel rude if you don't take their offer of that.

I always do.

I feel rude.

We got some hard bodies coming up next.

And we're not talking about ourselves.

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