Homegrown Beats and Draft Day Feats

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Homegrown Beats and Draft Day Feats

Maino and the Mayor · Thu Apr 24, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Coming to Northeast Wisconsin live from the Civic Media Studios, this is Mino and the Mayor.

And here are your hosts.

John Minow and Jim Schmidt.

Hey,

John Maino

thank you very much.

Welcome back, Minow and the Mayor.

We got a beautiful morning out there, and I gotta tell you something, folks.

You wanna talk about talent, homegrown talent?

We got some homegrown talent right here.

Two diehard Northeast Wisconsin people who put their artist talents to something pretty cool regarding the NFL Draft.

Stress the mind and Trent Magic, known

Vandals, Jim, take it

away.

Talking about the NFL draft, bringing out the best of the best.

Some people have been sitting on some pretty good talent waiting for today.

And you know,

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these guys look

badass.

They can't do with them in a bar.

They can't do.

For this time of the morning, yeah, I wouldn't want to tangle with either one of these guys.

But you're doing two things today.

You're dropping this great song that is unique to our community, the culture

of our community.

It's

not like this cheesehead song or it's not.

too much.

It's family friendly.

Right.

And you

also have a video.

So tell us a little bit about your two guys and then I'll tell me a little bit more about the song.

But first of all, introduce yourselves as your duo.

Well, we are known vandals.

I go by stress the mind.

I do the lyrics and Yeah, I'm

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phenomenal voice by the

way.

Yeah, I would

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not be I would not be a disjointed

Don't you think you put

John Maino

in your pipe?

Don't be honest with you.

Don't you think

he knows that?

In high school my teachers used to be like you should do radio you should do radio and I ended up doing music so I guess it's kind of close enough

Very soothing.

Yeah

I'm Trent magic.

I do all the production and I do the DJ stuff when we're live and hanging and playing shows and stuff like that But yeah, so I write all the music co-produced with him, too We both bounce a lot of ideas off together when I'm sort of producing what we are so right,

right?

Okay, so you guys this

She said with an attitude that you had enough of that.

We grew up with that.

I love all that stuff.

We just were in the studio a few months ago, thinking about it, and we were talking about how the draft was coming up.

I was like, man, has anyone, to my knowledge, to your knowledge, has anyone ever made a song just about the culture and state of Wisconsin in general?

Like an original song.

And we couldn't find it.

We looked, we couldn't find it.

So we were like, we need to.

do that.

We need to make that song.

You sought

a little local talent.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And we asked around and we're fortunate enough to get some cameos in the video.

I can't believe you didn't go to

Minow here.

He's

always begging.

Find the talent.

He'll tell you that he was like, I don't know, some school up in Michigan.

He was eight kids in the class.

He was

In a play.

Sure.

In a play.

That's all I know.

I have to say, Jim, if you use the terminology, your song drops today.

That was pretty hip for me.

That was awesome.

I

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agree.

I agree.

Thank you, Todd.

Thank

you,

John Maino

Todd.

So at the diver,

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anything good that happens with the show is because of Todd.

Trust us.

Lies.

You got Spencer Young in there.

We're a huge fan of his.

So are we?

Big fan of Spencer.

Actually, he's the one.

I got credit him for starting it all off.

So he actually, I had met him.

He did his paintings right there.

I was gonna say they look like Spencer's work.

You

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know what he painted them with?

His mind.

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What did he paint them with?

Worse, oh gosh.

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A football and a cleat.

I was actually gonna say a cleat jokingly, but seriously.

We

took that to a charity auction for the new community shelter.

650 bucks that one went for it.

I'm going to mine

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off for local vets.

Oh, that's the best.

He's a great guy, well good.

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But you know what though that's something that Jim and I talk about and Todd we all talk about that it's like well we try to do with this little show or whatever is is bring out the great talents

right here that are right

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around here you don't have to be from Chicago we've got talent

and we're sort of just starting too so like you know this song is kind of made for everybody in Wisconsin here we're from the state we love this state and

We might not be very known being the known vandals, but this was sort of a song we were hoping like, hey, that

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is a great lot.

That is a

great.

Yeah.

And

we were like, let's write a jam that everybody can relate to and love

and just see where it goes.

Yeah.

We just thought this could be played anywhere, any sporting event, any, any sort of like, it's, it's family friendly.

It's, it's good for everybody.

Everybody that's from here is even visited here for a while.

When you hear the lyrics and watch the video, you get it.

It is hilarious.

And

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we're

going to be

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hearing that.

I don't mean to sound like a weird guy.

You got the greatest voice.

Thank you.

Thank you.

It's like,

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damn

it.

Okay, that's true now.

I'm gonna tell you.

Right.

Sorry,

buddy.

What's your name again?

Trent.

Okay.

Yeah.

No, no, no.

His voice is great.

It's

incredible.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you.

It just works out.

Works out that way.

You should hear him rap.

Yeah.

Let me hear a little.

Give me a little.

And you will.

Yeah, you

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will.

Right now.

What should we do?

Want me to beatbox and you can do the first thing.

Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah.

I'll beatbox and do the first ready to do the first part of the song.

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Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, he's

right now.

I'll just beatbox real quick.

All

right.

All right.

Let's start with the first one.

From out to Deadly Land, you know what?

Yeah, the cheese sad state.

Right up north, tucked in.

Right next to the Great Lakes.

This is a place we call home.

Never afraid to admit it.

Back in 1848 is where our story's beginning.

So sit and listen.

Let me tell you all just what we're about.

Stuff for hunting and fishing.

We never leave home without it.

And throughout all of the seasons, we're prepared for a blizzard.

We're prepared before we'll dry for the roughest conditions.

Back to the fishing.

We even do it all night.

We drill a hole and drink a brew.

Believe me, this is the life.

Love it!

All right, did the research

on that one.

Little taste.

Yeah, yeah,

yeah,

right,

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right, right.

That's so cool.

Introduce yourselves again.

Tell a little bit about your background, what you do, and this

whole thing.

Yeah, I

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had to get into this,

yeah.

Yeah, no problem.

So I'm Trent Magic.

Trent Brusky is the real name though.

Don't tell anybody.

Okay.

Brusky?

Yeah, Brusky.

Yeah.

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As in the old Packer...

Dr. Brusky?

That's my grandfather.

Yeah, Hall of Famer.

Shut up!

It is.

Hall of Famer.

Doc Brusky.

Yeah, he's got a football card.

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Oh my god,

I

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was at

his

John Maino

induction to the Packer Hall of

Fame.

That's awesome 1993.

Yeah, so was I that

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is so

cool Yeah, so well, yeah, so he's my grandpa.

He's cool.

He was the first doctor the Packers ever had I think right you're correct.

Yeah

That's awesome.

Wow.

Okay.

Yeah.

He should have been in the Hall of Fame a lot earlier though.

Absolutely.

I know.

Who do

I talk to about that?

Well, so I've been in a lot of punk bands and I've done a lot of like hip hop production and stuff in the past 10 years, but music's always been my thing.

Hip hop production.

And I used to make music for commercials and different things back in the day.

Todd, you probably know a lot of stuff about that, you know.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

But

Him and I have known each other.

He's quiet about it.

He's quiet about

it.

We don't think about it.

He's known for

two years when I think about him.

No.

I feel a connection through the glass.

I know.

I'm seeing that.

As a fellow producer of radio.

Yeah.

But so Luke and I have known each other for years and you know we've played in bands separately together at shows and just we've been great friends.

So this known Vandals connection was something him and I kind of always wanted to do but never knew it.

So here we are.

This.

I think that you're, again, I only know that we're dropping now because I

don't know

what's going on.

How do people, how do you launch something like that?

I mean, you're not in

a boat.

Well, very carefully.

I mean, obviously we're completely independent.

We don't have, you know, investors or bosses or anything like that.

So we just, with the video.

I would

encourage you to stay on that

track.

Right.

So the song, the song was, I had written the song for the lyrics and I'd come up with the idea for it.

And he was like, let me make a, let me make a beat for it.

And it

just, we kind of went back and forth and it just kind of worked out perfectly.

And we need something kind of simple, but a lot of like, kind of whimsical and silly because, you know, a lot of everybody from at least a lot of my out of state friends are like, Wisconsin, what do you have there besides beer, cheese and the Packers?

but we have those things.

You know what I mean?

It's all right.

It's true.

Well,

they also say, and mine own the mayor.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then we have a... I know the former mayor of Green Bay.

Shut up.

Shut up.

We had gotten a hold of one of our good friends.

His name is Trace Passion.

Shout out to Trace.

Shout out to Trace, 1212 Productions.

He runs a media company called 1212 Productions and he's got all the camera gear and stuff.

He's like, I'm gonna get behind you guys and we're gonna make the most...

killer video week video

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as of right now.

It is dropped.

The video is out.

Tell

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everybody where people can see this.

You can see it on our YouTube page right now.

It's just YouTube search for known vandals.

Look us up.

Or whisk them to you.

Or you can search for whisk them.

Whisk.

That's actually.

Speaking of whisky.

Who did that?

Whoever did.

You know what

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we're very big fans of?

With all their craft breweries and everything.

They've gotten so great with their artwork.

Oh man.

With their

packaging.

I

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mean it's like you'd buy something.

Oh!

We got shirt.

These are for you guys.

Thank you.

You guys have to argue over who gets the green one.

That is

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so cool.

You got

a walleye on there That is so cool.

You get the right orange one.

I get the black one.

Thank you

John Maino

guys.

That is really

awesome.

That's great.

How

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can

we promote you guys more?

And YouTube is 20 years old today.

So this is

we're rolling it

out.

So

this

will be a great anniversary.

They were talking about how the YouTube creators were only had 40 videos and they were terrified that was going to fail super bad or something.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So

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you guys, okay, when

you guys shoot a

John Maino

video,

tell

John Maino

me, tell me about the process of shooting a video.

Well, I got to tell you the process for the video is, is a, it's a very collective process.

And we got so many amazing people involved with trace at the helm, our friend at 12, 12 productions.

kind of helping us lay out the storyboard for it.

Multiple locations, multiple great people involved.

But really, you just got to take the days and the time to make sure you're getting your shots right.

Having fun is super, super key when you're making a video.

And honestly,

you

can't fake that.

No, no.

Just having

the right people behind you makes

it all the better.

And he picked out.

He said, we're going to go here.

We're going to go here.

He's storyboarded out.

The guy's a wizard.

He knows what he's doing.

Yeah, I do.

We've done commercials like it,

of course,

to.

Very dry, very tight, not fun.

And then we've also done, we've done

some

other stuff in bars with, like you guys with YouTube.

And it's just so much more fun, it's real.

Yeah,

yeah, production seems to just be a little more loose with the YouTube stuff.

Just a

little.

Oh yeah, a little bit.

Yeah, you can.

You know,

you let Johnny smoke weed and he appreciates that just a little looser there.

I have no

John Maino

idea where

that came from.

I don't smoke weed Yeah,

who's the one who always smoked weed?

John Maino

Okay,

Mrs.

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Schmidt, please close

your

John Maino

ears.

Of all

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the people amongst us in this studio, which one of us was kicked off the wrestling team for smoking weed?

Well,

this is great.

You guys are doing this and creativity.

We love that we We talk often on this show about the talent that's right here in Green Bay We just talk not just the talent in music and the arts, you know visual dancing authors, but

In the business community, too, you don't have to go to the East Coast and West Coast

and

look at the production with 1212.

I mean, it's

right here, you know, exactly.

It's incredible.

Absolutely.

And

we need to showcase that instead of cheese curds, which is great.

We're proud of what we have here in the Packers.

which you guys haven't heard the song yet.

No, you'll hear it.

It's on all streaming platforms.

So

right now

people can write now.

So I'm on Spotify.

So you can find it.

You have

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no idea what spot.

I'm on

my phone.

I'm on Spotify.

You should have seen me

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yesterday with our poor guy here, Jesse, trying to explain what an app.

is so

I can

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get into

the draft thing.

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That was like uncomfortable.

That's great.

That draft app thing is, it's, it's, I appreciate it, but it's very interesting.

Yeah.

It's a lot of steps.

Wow.

No, you just Google it.

Anyway, go

ahead.

Tell me about the, how do I find it on

Spotify?

Sure.

So, yep.

So any streaming service you have, you can search with scant them or just type our group name.

Spell that.

So it's WISCAN.

T-H-E-M, so whisk, whisk, and them.

Like, and them, and them.

And

Kathryn Lake

Wisconsin mixed together, whisk and them.

Okay.

Fantastic.

Yep.

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And we're with two very, very talented people who we are going to allow or they are allowing us to debut their new song, Todd.

Yeah, that's right.

We got it here first.

Somebody

just we're good

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to me.

Thank

you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

I'm excited about this, man.

This is great.

Yeah, us too.

Tell

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us again about your background and how you want to just it.

So

again, I

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hate the term, but I'm gonna throw it out.

It's so organic green Bay wise.

Yeah,

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Wisconsin wise.

That's that's the whole goal again.

Okay.

That's the whole goal.

So with this song, you know, Wisconsin, this is for you.

This is for everybody from Wisconsin, born and raised, even if you travel to Wisconsin and it's like your

You

know,

childhood plays away.

Like you got to know a little bit about it.

And if you don't, this Wisconsin song is definitely going to have everything you could think of.

Yeah.

Listen to the lyrics.

You'll, you'll get it.

You'll really, you'll understand it all.

Absolutely.

I

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have to ask this though.

Um, well, first of all, I got, I got a text here from Tina.

Okay.

I'm technically challenged.

Can I play their song with touch tunes?

I'd love to play it when I'm out having adult beverages this weekend.

Tina.

That will take about another month to pass,

because

I have to submit it to that company, but it is in the works.

There's that distribution stuff, digital, it takes time, stuff we can't control.

Yeah.

Okay, but there's something she can do now,

right?

Is there anybody on

YouTube?

Yeah, YouTube, YouTube, with scantum known vandals, just Google, just Google known vandals, with scantum, it'll come up.

All right.

Yep.

You guys ready?

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

Debut right here on Mino and the Mayor.

No stress.

Why don't you tell them where no vandals are from?

From out the Dairyland, you know it, yeah, the Chief's Head State Right up north, tucked in, right next to the Great Lakes This is the place we call home, never afraid to admit it Back in 1848 is where our stories begin, and so sit and listen Let me tell you all just what we're about, like stuff for hunting and fishing We'll never leave home without, and throughout all of the seasons We're prepared for a blizzard, flat bed for a drive for the roughest conditions Then right back to the fishing, we even do it all night We drill a hole and drink a brew, believe me, this is the life In that night on every Friday, we be frying the fish

Kickin' back at supper clubs, breakin' out the cribbids Never missin' a game, my time a cheer on the pack Golden Bruins, bucks and badges, gettin' rowdy in stance So here we go, y'all, time to spell it out with us Raise it up on what you're holdin' to the place that we livin' Dub-I-S-C-O-N-S-I-N We rock up all of y'all, y'all amongst some friends Dub-I-S-C-O-N-S-I-N Having snowfall, bliss is never end Dub-I-S-C-O-N-S-I-N

And if y'all didn't hear me I'ma say it again These are my people and I'm thinkin' they're all second to none From Eagle River headed south on Highway 41 From all the east to the west and everyone in between If you're from Wisconsin then we all unite as a team Love her my factory workers and farmers makin' it happen Keep us runnin' in supply for weekends up at our cabins And the old fashions makes it up you never go wrong

We're all the friends and all are welcome with the drinks that we sip So if you're taking the trip, we hope you stop on five We hold the door open for you and we'll say, oh hi!

From the days gone by, present, time and beyond Meanwhile in Wisconsin, everyone sing along

It's the place we call home and the tundra begins.

And if y'all didn't hear

me, I'ma say it again.

Yeah, it's special shout outs to Mark's East Side Supper Club.

Yeah,

quick trip with brothers.

Miller.

Bill and rookie.

PBR.

107-5 the fan.

Yeah.

Good day Wisconsin at the diver.

And no W wrestling.

Thank you, thank you.

That is so cool.

Thanks so much.

Check all the boxes, man.

Critical

fashion.

Yeah, exactly.

Ranch

dressing.

Yeah, everybody, it ranches huge here.

And I thought that's great.

It's awesome.

I don't know if it's good or not.

Very

cool.

You can visualize the whole stadium jamming.

Oh,

my God.

We spell Wisconsin out in

a fun

way.

A number of

times in a fun way.

Oh,

absolutely.

Yeah, that was the

whole

thing.

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Yo, yo, yo, Ripian Appleton.

Hey.

So

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great.

We see you, Ripian.

That was great.

We see you.

Yeah, that's a lot of

fun.

The chorus was our favorite part, because we wanted something that was like anthem worthy.

When you think of an anthem, you want to be like singing along and just having a great

time.

Some of those songs back in the 80s where there was like, and I think one of them was We Built the City, and

it was based

in San Francisco.

But there were different versions depending on the market and radio you worked for.

We need to have them do an edit for us that mentions Mino in the mail.

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Absolutely.

That was a big thing.

It's over.

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What's her name?

Um, the song was Nebraska.

What's your name?

Lady Gaga.

Okay.

She

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did.

She did Nebraska.

She did Wisconsin.

Oh, nice.

You know, you know,

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that whole song

is a whole

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different meaning

that when you hear her say that was a while ago, I

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actually

almost

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forgot.

I know, right?

She's been around longer than we think.

I

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know,

right?

Jim, you met her, right?

I did.

But he got, I guess she had soft hands or wasn't she?

No, no, no,

that was like, no.

I bet her the same day I met the Dolly Lama.

And he

had the

soft hands.

He had the soft hands.

Anyway, I got the soft hands.

The number one thing he comes away

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having meeting the Dolly Lama, he had the softest hands.

He did?

It's like, really?

What do you think he does?

Construction

on his side?

Did it feel like a chinchilla?

Oh yeah, he's a bricklayer.

He's like, he has a chinchilla hand.

By the

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way, who's the tattoo artist?

I am.

He is.

You

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both got amazing ink on your hands.

That is

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so cool.

I got a little fish because I love trout fishing with my

wife.

Yeah, see, we're the real deal.

Well, I

gotta mention my wife.

Yes.

I love you, my wife.

Yes.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

You just touched my stuff and I can't

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pass up.

I

did.

Broke trout?

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Actually, multiple strokes.

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we're joined by the legend, the magic man, Don McCauskey.

I still remember when his name was called back in the day with Forrest Greg and Forrest Greg talked about this great young quarterback from the University of Virginia.

Now, Madge, one thing you and I talked about one other time, you on draft day, it was an entirely different entity in 1987, 88, 89, that whole era of you and drafting guys like you and the Bryce pops of the world and everybody

and they all say the same thing, man, it was nothing like it is today as far as an event.

What do you, what do you remember about those days magic?

Oh, no, it was, uh, I mean, it was the first, you know, I think the, I don't know when the draft first became televised at ESPN, like, I don't know in the early 80s.

Yeah.

But, uh, I remember, um, yeah, there, there was, uh,

I didn't know where I was going to get drafted because I got injured again in my senior year in Virginia.

I separated my shoulder, so my stock went pretty far down.

I didn't know how far it was going to go down.

I still went to the combine.

Wasn't still 100%.

Couldn't do the bench press, so stock went down.

So I didn't know where I was going to get drafted.

So the way to draft.

The way my draft day was very lonely.

I was in my college apartment all by myself.

The draft started at 8 a.m.

on ESPN, and they only did the first six rounds televised.

So back then they had 12 rounds in the draft.

So I watched the first round, and I saw four quarterbacks were taken.

Vinny Testaverde, Kelly Stover, Harbaugh, and Chris Miller, and I'm like, well,

Man, I'm right.

I'm right in the same bracket as those guys.

Four guys already taken.

I got to be taking, you know, pretty soon, you know, I got to be coming up next, you know?

And, um, second round went by, third round went by, fourth round.

The draft went off the air after the sixth round.

I still didn't get my number.

I mean, still didn't get my call.

So, uh, I was just hanging out in my apartment all by myself.

Finally.

It got to be 10 p.m.

I'm like, I gotta go to bed, man.

That was a long day.

I was exhausted.

I was so disappointed, frustrated, sad, whatever.

Tears, all that stuff.

I didn't get my call till like midnight.

And Forest Greg called me and said, yeah, they were in.

actually, you know, it's funny.

I got, I got a call from the Buffalo bills in the sixth round by Bill polling

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and

they wanted to take me in a sixth round as it and turn me into a free safety.

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Oh my, which was your hometown though, your hometown Buffalo bills.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, you know, they had Jim Kelly and Frank Reich and I'm like, yeah, I'll pass on the free safety.

Even though it sounded, I mean, I, no doubt I could have played, I played, played some.

You know a lot of it in high school and then you to practice some even in college my freshman year, but I was like I'll pass on the the free safety I'm gonna be a quarterback in there said okay, you know, so yeah, I got got a call in the 10th round midnight and Got to be honest.

I wasn't overly excited at all Because I just was so disappointed so when Forest said we're gonna take it next big at 10th round.

I said, okay great

He said, uh, you know, well, we're really excited to have you.

I was like, I bet.

But when I hung up the phone and, um, you know, they told me what I'd have to fly off from mini camp in a couple of days, I just couldn't wait to get to mini camp because I mean, even though I got drafted so late, there was no question in my mind that I was as good as any of the first rounders that got drafted.

They just had no idea.

And I proved it, you know, I mean, the guys in the first round were, I mean, Harbaugh, Chris Miller, Tessa Verde and Kelly Stoffer.

Yeah.

So he never played when I got to Green Bay, you know, yeah, when I got there, I was, I was excited to compete.

And as soon as, as soon as I got into many camps, I saw the other quarterbacks there and I said, I'm making this team and I'll probably start.

And I didn't know how soon, but I definitely was confident that was my attitude.

John Maino

I have to ask though, did you, because I've sat with guys like at the University of Arizona where I covered them and University of Michigan and different places where I've, you know, you go to their apartments and their dorms, actually it was back then usually, and you'd sit there on the phone and ring and everybody would be, okay, hang on, don't answer, and everybody'd get their cameras fired up or else set in the mics and be there like, hello?

Yeah, no Uncle Bob, I haven't been drafted yet.

I don't know Bob.

Uncle Bob.

I gotta keep the line open.

I'll call you when it's done, Uncle Bob.

Okay.

They must've got 12 calls like that during the course of the day.

Did that happen to you at all?

It didn't.

It

didn't.

Because I was just there in my apartment all by myself.

I had a roommate, but he wasn't there that weekend.

He lived in a couple hours away in DC.

I was there all by myself and I just wanted to be by myself because I had no idea what was going to happen.

I didn't want to have any friends hanging around waiting for a celebratory call because it didn't come.

A good thing I didn't.

So you got the call?

Probably the only person I would call my parents every couple hours and just tell them, yeah, no call yet.

And that was probably about it, the only conversations I had.

Yeah, it was a pretty lonely day for sure.

So after you got the call from force, the first call you made was to your parents.

Yeah, but not until the morning.

I mean, I got, I got called.

I think it was past midnight, you know, and I just waited until the morning.

I called him first thing and, um, well, it

John Maino

was your dad being a firefighter.

He must have

thought there's a

John Maino

four

alarm someplace.

Yeah.

I mean, but, you know, I grew up in Buffalo, New York, getting drafted by Green Bay.

I was used to the cold and, uh, you know,

with my Polish background, you know, the first day I was pulling into Wisconsin, I go through Pulaski and I'm like, hey, I might fit in pretty well.

Hey,

let me ask

you, John

and I were talking, a lot of people aren't coming.

I mean, we're a little disappointed.

John Maino

16 it looks like of the potential, I don't know how many they had, 40 possibles.

And do you think it's because of sitting in the room?

Not getting drafted cameras on you, or do you think it's just they want to be with their friends in a different hotel room?

Yeah, some some some players, you know families Just want to be at home with their family.

They don't they don't need the hype They don't need the glam, you know and it all blinged out in their ice and their diamonds and their you know

$75,000 watches and all this stuff, glasses, the worn on stage.

Everyone wears glasses and going, I mean, I don't get it.

It's just a little too much for some players.

Some players don't need that and they just rather be home with their family.

There's nothing wrong with it.

It's a big day for a lot of these first rounders.

It's a huge day, so it's exciting.

You know, all that kind of glitz and glamour, it's going to be kind of weird and green, but it doesn't.

I mean, if you go to New York or Vegas or someplace, you know, it kind of fits the green baby.

That's not really the style, you know, so, but that's what goes on.

And, um, hey, these kids deserve it.

They worked hard and they're all going to be first rounders.

So if they want to be there, they should enjoy it.

And, um, it's going to be a special day for all of them, but yeah.

He's

John Maino

not he's definitely not and now Jackson.

What's that the quarterback from Mississippi?

Um Dax dark Jackson dark Jackson.

Yeah, he's not gonna be there because we just had the guy in the editor from Lindy's draft preview and he said guys guys do pay attention

And I know sometimes it's all BS, but you know projections of whatever and he's been projected at like 28 or 30 or possibly second day So he backed out because again, we talked when we joke about it because I became good friends I just mentioned with with a show with Brady Quinn sister

Uh, Laura, okay.

And, and I was joked about, you know, it started out with Brady Quinn.

Boy, I'll tell you what, waiting for a call from the lions and the Detroit lions select, you know, Joe blow up and his girlfriend who was all over him at first incrementally started getting further away as the draft went on.

Yeah.

That

could, it could be an embarrassing day for sure.

Frustrating, embarrassing.

I'm like, no, what happened to Aaron?

You know,

right?

You know, went for number one, a 24.

I mean, that's, I mean, shoot.

still being drafted 24 is awesome.

But from being number one, I guess, and just being overlooked, I don't know.

But it could be disappointing.

But you just don't think these

guys with these diamond glasses and watches are going to blend into Green Bay?

That's what I said.

It's going to look

ridiculous.

They look great.

That's not what's happening.

You're going out the Laura lying stuff

John Maino

Hey man, I gotta ask what kind of a bonus did you get?

Oh a big one big one ten thousand I had $10,000 starting bonus and my base salary was 65,000 my rookie year People

don't realize that wasn't that long

either.

Well, that was that was the minimum salary I mean as a tenth rounder.

It's pretty much a

the same salary as a free agent, but I did get a $10,000 signing bonus.

So when I became the starting quarterback in the second game of the season, I was making $65,000 base, right?

But then we went on to strike and I missed four paycheck, man.

That's a quarter of the year, man.

Probably made about 35,000.

Oh my goodness.

Yeah.

That's hilarious.

You know, a couple years later, I did a little better.

There's

John Maino

a reason when we used to ask you guys to come on our TV shows and we'd give you a gift certificate for like a oil change or something at Arby's.

You guys would take those certificates.

Nobody turned them down.

It

John Maino

was

good stuff back.

That was good stuff.

John Maino

Yeah.

That was different times, man.

Different times for sure.

You know, I tell some of the old stories, like just a difference between.

What the players have nowadays and like just the players in the 80s and 90s what we had it's just it's night and day These players have no idea how good they have it and you know, rightfully so they should I mean it's such a big business now.

I mean But the the facilities and everything that goes on right now the salaries the rules.

Oh My gosh, they have everything going for them their pensions.

It's ridiculous how nice

I'm not jealous.

I'm envious.

I mean, you know, I think it should be like that.

And, you know, but back in the day, man, it was, it was, it was a lot different, a lot more humbling.

John Maino

You know what, Matt?

We actually had, we had Randy right on a couple of weeks ago and we asked him about that.

And he said, you know, he said, you think you'd feel that way.

But he said, I'll be honest here.

My first year I was talking with Terry Bradshaw, who came in to do one of the games or whatever.

And Randy, and like his first year was making more than Terry Bradshaw made the last year he won a Super Bowl.

So it's like, you kind of got to put in perspective sometime.

Wouldn't you agree?

No, it's all relevant.

Right.

It is.

And, um, you know, uh, back then, I mean, after, like after my third year, you know, when I was, I was the first pocket player, I think to make over a million dollars a year.

So that was, that was, uh, the start of something exciting there as far as player salaries, but, um,

Compared to now, it's just you know, it's just so so so different.

Well, I definitely was appreciative back then.

You know what I mean?

Oh, yeah, I was able to buy my own car.

Yep.

I still my first two years I still had a roommate live by my partner, you know, Don Bracken.

We split we split the rent on our little townhouse until we're money.

It was $500 a month.

It was $250 each a month.

John Maino

And I can tell I can tell people it was decorated with match.

Yeah, I know.

I know.

A shoulder mount of a buck.

Nice.

No, it was a jackal.

It was a jackalope.

Yeah, I know.

Start Antelope, grab it.

Donnie should call it a jackalope.

John Maino

Yeah.

Those are fun days.

I've never seen teams closer together.

You guys, Robbie Bosco, Bracken, Eldale Greco, some of them, I've never, I don't know if guys will ever be closer as a team because you guys almost bonded that way.

Wouldn't you agree?

Yeah, we did.

I remember last time I was on your show, we talked about the story.

We were in a bowling league.

My rookie year with all those guys on our Tuesdays or the day off, we were in a bowling league.

Crazy.

You would never see that now, but it was fun back then.

It was a different time.

We just stood in.

and the guys hung out in public a lot more.

There weren't, there wasn't, you know, social media, there weren't cameras, there weren't videotaping guys, wherever they went.

So we were able to blend in way more and just, you know, enjoy ourselves a lot more than they can, I think, these days, you know, for sure.

John Maino

Well, Don McCoskey was sure enjoying having you on, my friend.

Kent, thank you enough for your great insight and always being a big part of our show.

Truly appreciate it.

Hey, love coming on with you guys.

Take care, my brother.

All right, take care.

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As Wisconsin, as a game of

cribbage.

John Maino

Michael Friedman, simple life hospitality.

It is drafty, ladies and gentlemen.

Just checked in with cheese curd, Nick.

He's getting the grill fired up out there.

He's got his cheese curds and his brats and his cheeseburgers and everything cheese.

He's gonna be at the stadium view.

We got unbelievably amount of things taking place in the area.

Special thanks to Don Mikowski for joining us.

And Michael Friedman, who is just one of the good guys that we've met during the course of doing this show.

And don't be asked, Mike, you're just my good guy.

I mean, it's cool what you do, but it's just...

Well,

thank you.

I think it's been now about a year.

I think since the first time I was on the show and we started talking about the draft last year and the excitement around it and how, uh, how, how people were going to rent out their homes and all that good stuff.

So, uh, yeah.

So it's, uh, you helped a lot of people.

Yeah, we've been to two, you've been to two, you were on at green and gold on true lane and then over at, um,

Yeah, and listen, you know, we, uh, we, we anticipated a lot, a lot more people, uh, staying in our homes, but listen, I think it's a great day for Green Bay.

It's a great day for the NFL to come to, like I said, the, the.

I think the cathedral of football, you know, I mean, to me, that's, you know, I've been going to Packer games since I was five years old, 1970.

No kidding.

Yeah.

So we started, you know, I grew up in Milwaukee and we started going to Packer games at county stadium.

We had tickets there and then

John Maino

worst place ever to watch your football

game.

Yeah.

It was pretty, pretty bad.

But, uh, but, you know, my, my dad and my uncle were very involved with having season tickets up here too.

My dad was very good friends with Ray Nitschke.

No kidding.

Yeah.

So, you know, uh,

great book, Meen on Sunday.

So one of

the best.

But yeah, it's, you know, it's an exciting day for Green Bay.

And I'm glad, you know, we've been a part of it.

And doing the best we can to help people, you know, with what they wanted to do with their homes.

And, but yet now time to celebrate and have some fun this afternoon.

John Maino

Well, not only that, just one quick thing though, as far as like

I mean, people still want to come to Green Bay where there's Packer game.

Oh,

John Maino

you guys will still be renting some of these places.

Correct.

Absolutely.

You know, from, from the draft, I mean, we've picked up some, some new homes for the upcoming Packer years, some really nice houses around Lambeau field.

So we'll be renting those out.

And then, you know, obviously we have all of our leisure homes in Door County and North Woods.

We're growing that portfolio as well.

And yeah, we, we, we're expecting it.

We're going to have a great summer.

So we're excited by what we're doing.

John Maino

And it's really cool that you're so professional.

I mean, Jim talked about that.

with his house and everything.

It's like, if somebody comes through you guys, you don't have to worry about some scheister kind of whatever,

whatever.

No, no, no, yeah.

When you came in this morning, the gift baskets, the welcome gift baskets.

So nice.

I mean, just local stuff, right?

Cheese,

sausage.

Yeah, you know.

The

coffee you put out, I love your coffee, I said that last time.

Oh yeah.

Those are the little things and the background checks you do.

And I know people have asked you to rent their houses and you're like, yeah, that's not really our quality.

I mean, it's nice that you're known as not

up up scale, but upper scale homes.

Yeah, you know, we we just want to provide a great experience.

You know, the management, I think I've talked about this.

The management of the home is one thing, but we are we are in the hospitality business.

We don't run a hotel, but we run 150 small hotels.

If you think about it from the standpoint of the number of homes we manage.

And so creating those guest experiences and, you know, I brought those gift baskets in just to show you what, you know, that little touch.

We were talking about this this morning was I was talking about with someone this morning that

You know, it's not the size of it.

It's not the amount of the gift.

It's like the experience and the memories that's created that say, oh gosh, you know, when we stayed there, we had those local meat sticks and this local cheese and this local mustard.

And, you know, we just really had a great time.

And I think that's such a big part of it.

John Maino

The only disappointing aspect of something that didn't happen, Johnny Juice.

Well,

I know we talked about Johnny juice.

Well, we'll have to work on Johnny juice.

I

would say that Nick fail I Should say a Nick a cheese curd Nick who is like kind of our street vendor, but has his ear to the ground He does he just hears everything and knows everything did call and say that Austin Strabo Airport one of their busiest days was this morning Yeah, that's good to hear right because I think yeah, some of us were concerned that

Is this going to happen like we were hoping it was going to happen?

Yeah, we're going to hit 250, 300.

And it's like, even last night, and then somebody, Todd, this morning, we were talking about that.

He's like, is there too much going on?

And we're not feeling it because it's so spread out, right?

It could be.

But on the other hand, if the airport, I mean, there's only really two airports, right?

Us and Appleton.

So if they're busy, that's a good sign.

this parking takes off.

And I know the shuttles in Appleton lady called yesterday and said they're filling up, which is awesome to hear that.

So that's good news.

So, you know, we'll see today's the day.

Whatever it

is,

it's going to be here.

And, uh, and, you know, I'm, I'm excited to go this afternoon.

I've got my friends coming in from Chicago and Madison, although my Bears fans, I'm, you know, they're, they're good friends, but I told them not to wear any bears gear.

Cause I said, they might, they might get, you know,

John Maino

why do I feel like anybody coming in from Chicago is going to be here?

to party.

Yeah, they are.

Trust me.

Trust me.

They'll be here about one and then our shuttle, our private shuttle, aka Lisa, is dropping us off at the draft around two.

Poor Lisa.

That starts at noon today.

Hey, tell her to make me some more quiche.

Oh, you know, she made us quiche for, so we're all staying at her house.

And she's making us some quiche and she's got some breakfast pizzas for us as

John Maino

well.

Those are, I've never had quiche before and what she brought in that

day was just incredible.

It's really good.

And

seriously, poor Lisa.

Hashtag, poor Lisa.

I know, right?

Right, right.

Yeah, I know.

She's amazing and she's such an integral part of our company and everything she does for us.

I mean, it's incredible, the public relations and just the,

media side of things and just to support you give some.

I'm

John Maino

going to throw that out there.

If somebody, if somebody might be getting off a plane in Austin Straubel right now, they're getting in a cab.

They're driving around.

If they still are looking for a place, what have you got available?

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