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and Jim Schmidt.
Hey, thank you very much.
Welcome back.
Second hour for mind on the mayor here in a nice look in Wednesday, 33 in Green Bay, 36 in Appleton.
That's the high around the area, 34 at Oshkosh, lower fifties today, sunny.
Hopefully that wind won't be too bad.
Happy birthday, John Cryer, 60 years old from two and a half men.
Thank you for nodding, Mary.
Bill Belichick, 73.
I'm sorry.
Oh man.
How, how oaky.
Are those pictures, Mary?
With his 26-year-old girlfriend
or whatever.
Oh, she's
26 now.
She's
in
her 20s.
I
thought she was 24.
Yeah.
yeah.
I mean, I'm sorry, right?
He's their own.
But not... That's okay.
But really, to get out in front of the press with all that, that guy had kind of a Vince Lombardi-type reputation to me.
Oh, for sure.
To me, and I don't know about... Now he's a weird guy.
Right, now he's a creepy guy.
Like somebody like you who's young that I don't know how you saw him as, but he was like a...
What, how many Super Bowls did they win?
Seven or some crazy?
to
that?
I don't mind what people do.
But you know who did that first?
His old boss, Robert Kraft.
He did this big thing.
His wife was dying before the Super Bowl.
We're dedicating this to Marsha.
Oh my God.
Where are we?
Here's my new fiance, Bambi.
So I mean that's...
Is that called a late life crisis instead of a midlife?
much.
Yeah, I
go ahead.
By the way, we're at the Mary Rowdy Vice President Market and
reason you're here.
Todd, go ahead.
sweats these sweats pajamas 24-hour entities?
but I'd get in the car
But it's the
could be wearing at Western Racket and people would
No,
that's like athletic wear like I'm thinking you know
we were just talking
So you see people at you know 10 11 o'clock at night at Walmart and their Tweety bird sweatpants and their you know
Donald Duck t-shirt,
And they probably go to bed and then wake up in the same thing
do God knows what myself personally You know, I've done some we my son and I we love to go to the donut stores We call it uncle Mike's on a Saturday morning.
Um, I will definitely I won't like put jeans on but I'll put like a pair of
Leggings or
Hey, John, clean socks, you know, right?
And
then go to
Walmart.
Yes.
On a Saturday morning.
I value my my.
You've never been
value my public appearance.
for yourself
Thank you.
one.
I've been
early morning Western racket girl.
But I also have like workout clothes on, which is different than my pajamas.
Let's talk about it.
It's
Yeah, so this was a really fun effort between nine local to Green Bay.
Breweries here.
They're all you can see all their logos along the bottom of the can there And they all got together to put together what's called the eighth round downtown
I did not notice that all their logos surround the can very cool.
Yeah, so this is a really easy to drink pale ale And has some I haven't even tried it yet.
So it's funny that I'm just talking like I know but I'm excited to try it We haven't cracked a can yet.
I don't
want to I want to keep this as like commemorative.
It is a very cool can
And we're thrilled with the design and how it came out.
Obviously it ties to all the branding for Draft City Music Fest.
So this will be tapped today in seven of those nine brewery tap rooms.
So you can head there for a happy hour this afternoon.
Or you can plan on getting a can for yourself or those you love at the Draft City Music Fest next week, Wednesday evening and next week, Saturday evening.
It's a biggie.
It's our kickoff.
Right.
We've been calling it that from the get go.
And then we decided, let's just call it that.
And then WPS foundation graciously stepped up and sponsored it.
So it is the WPS foundation draft kickoff event.
It starts at four o'clock next week, Wednesday goes until 11 day.
Last soul 90s hip hop band is our headliner that night.
But we have
a lot, an awesome musical lineup, but they're all, in addition to that, there is a kid's zone.
So this is completely family friendly.
There's an awesome kid's zone.
Burke has stepped up to provide some really great playground equipment.
Mischief and Magic will be there with face painting and all of their amazing things.
so much to do bounce houses, et cetera.
We have Jabasso coming and setting up a mobile skate park, doing some demos, all that kind of stuff.
We have TDS who stepped up and they're going to be our glow zone partners.
So as nighttime falls, as dusk falls upon us, you'll have some really awesome glow gear that you'll be able to light up the night with.
Are you guys having a drone show?
We are not.
We will be having fireworks presented by Festival Foods that will go off about 8.30.
And these will be shot off right in the middle of the Fox River from three barges.
This has never been done before.
I like to say that, because people are like, oh, we've seen fireworks in downtown.
Well, sure you have.
If you come to Fire Over the Fox, we light them off right on the shoreline.
This is different.
This is a 20-minute show, themed to music.
And it's
in the middle of April.
So where are the barges?
Just right on the other side of the bridge here?
Yeah,
I mean, they'll be adjacent
to Light Park.
Light Park, right?
Yeah, but in the
middle of the river.
It is going to be a spectacular show.
Are people allowed to bring their boats up and sit around?
So
there will be obviously a safety zone, a fallout zone, just like there is for fire over
the fox.
So if you want to launch your boat, you're not going to be able to get super close.
But you'll be able to see them from anywhere in downtown.
Dousman Street to Bridge will also be shut down that day.
So beautiful, awesome, perfect viewing spots, City Deck, I mean, the behind the Hampton in there, the old WPS parking lot, like those, there's plenty of amazing viewing spots for these fireworks.
Are there launching spots for kayaks?
Some might take my kayak out and launch.
He's never been on a kayak.
Anyway, there's, you can't
take
Wednesday,
But just Tuesday, as you know, because it's in the Broadway district, the new community shelter, NFL is coming and serving dinner on Tuesday evening.
Did you know that?
I did it, how lovely.
With little Caesars, they're bringing 400 pizzas.
Oh my gosh.
And face painting, and that's gonna be very cool.
I know, you know,
we were told about a lot of those community-based events
Detroit, and so we were kind of waiting to see, like, what are they gonna do?
Yeah, I mean, as far as the draft is, and the NFL is concerned, you know, we've been, I guess I'll say in contact with them, certainly through the Packers and through Discover Green Bay, since it was announced last year.
And by we, I mean, on Broadway, Downtown Green Bay Inc., the city of Green Bay, City Parks and Rec.
We formed this little ad hoc.
downtown planning committee to put all of these amazing events together that start Wednesday and go through Saturday.
There's a full list of events happening for the community.
So yeah, we've worked to really plan our events on the shoulder times of the draft, understanding and just wanting to be a good partner with the NFL.
We're thrilled they're in town.
We also wanna do what we do best and that's provide community events and bring people to downtown.
Downtown is the heart of the city and we want people to come down and support the small businesses that call this place home and see what we have to offer here.
the Booyah Battle and Kringle Combine are on Friday at 10
Yep, they'll start at 10 o'clock right here on Washington Street.
And then the Draft Day 5K, which is completely sold out, by
way.
Are you serious?
the boat, John, sorry.
Mary?
Maybe you can bring your kayak and row along.
You know?
boom.
Poppin' his kayak.
So that'll be happening 9 a.m.
on City Deck on Saturday.
And then the farmer's market is at 10 on Saturday again on Washington Street.
There's also the Living Packers Heritage Trail.
That's on Thursday.
There are 11 stops where you can see live actors actually act out and impersonate those specific heritage trail stops.
So there's a lot of excitement around that event because it's something we've definitely never done
Saturday is the kind of the second half of the Draft City music fast.
That's kicks off kicks off at five o'clock on Saturday less than Jake is the headliner that night but a lot of great other bands as well leading up to that again kids zone will be there they'll be the you can get another taste of the pale ale in can format at that event as well so
I like how you did the poster it makes look like these Ferris wheel is right downtown
It is definitely very artistic
cool poster
There will be some commemorative posters very similar looking to this Available for sale at the event as well people have really grabbed on to it and loved it.
So
it's awesome.
That's really cool Stick around for a few minutes.
We're Mary Roddy vice president market communication on Broadway incorporation.
It's here
I mean, it's- It's
here.
You Bobby Vittenfant?
I've heard of him.
I've probably.
just... This
that.
Every time they hear that...
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got a great voice.
getting into it.
Wow,
If you
haven't danced that at a Brewer's game, who
are you?
Exactly.
Absolutely.
You know what I think was fun?
Remember the game we had at Green Bay East?
the hundred anniversary and the Badger Band was there and they kept playing this and the band people were all out there dancing with
everybody.
Oh, fifth quarter.
Oh, yeah.
Awesome.
I don't care how there are times where it's like, you know, play the Packer game and Packers would lose or whatever.
It's like, all right.
Tick tock.
And then
would leave.
No.
Yeah.
I've been to at least two Packers games where the Badger Band was there.
They
I mean, I lived here.
I didn't go to the game.
not a concert, it's a
and these guys show
And that was a whole lot of fun.
Anyway, yeah, they're the ultimate entertainers.
They're awesome.
And you know how you get stressed out when you try to make the play or you try to make the team?
It's the same deal when you try to make the band, when you go to Madison.
It's a big, big deal.
I've heard that, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, it is.
So, which I didn't, but anyway, yeah.
Aw.
Okay.
Got a text here, go on Broadway, Patrick.
Yes.
Thank you, Patrick.
We hope, we sure hope so.
I mean, we can see the weather forecast now, which is putting us a little bit at ease,
had backup plans, right?
We were prepared, but we hoped that we didn't have to use them.
So
So that's been, you know, our events are not on the one pass app, unfortunately.
We were hoped that they would possibly be put on there, but it was never.
promised it was never agreed.
These are not NFL sanctioned events.
They're completely separate.
The transportation, however, the bus route that will take you from downtown to Titletown, as it's coined, is on the one pass out.
Did you
come up with that?
I didn't,
gosh.
It's so good, though.
It's got a good ring to it.
I would take credit.
It
came
out.
So we're thrilled at least that that made it on the OnePass app that folks know that they can take public transit.
I think public transportation is not like it is in a bigger city here.
And so I think if you have fans coming who are accustomed to that, they're going to seek it out.
And so I'm glad that that is included.
people know that they can park downtown here in the ramps, potentially cheaper than they can park on a lawn, not to not to discredit that experience.
I get it.
I've done it.
It's awesome.
But, you know, if you want a little bit cheaper option and be able to experience all the amazing things in downtown, but also get a ride to the campus, that bus route is the way to do it.
Yeah,
It's been a team effort.
Yes, they
Because marketing dollars only go so far.
So our marketing efforts for this event have, we did a statewide reach with them from a digital standpoint.
So people throughout Wisconsin or as they
hopefully cross Wisconsin border.
They'll hopefully be served those Google search ads or Facebook ads or whatever for this event.
Because we did only have so many marketing dollars.
We can't market, unfortunately, nationwide.
So we hope once people get here, we've done a good job of some...
Gorilla grassroots marketing of getting our rack cards our posters things like that into hotels And and as best we can just getting getting the word out that there's other things to do For people who are looking for other things to do,
you know, I can say one thing at Lake Park.
I was there when we dedicated that remember Jim That I mean that was just a wasteland
But that is like a perfect thing, geographically, like in the fall when you guys had some things there.
Yeah, we did Fall
Fest
over there.
Yeah, and I'd hear them and I'd walk over there and it's like, it is a really cool setup.
It's a great.
Just by, I don't know if it was designed that way, but for something like that, that close to the water, but you had enough room for what you guys are putting on, you couldn't ask for a better location.
Well, and more to come.
And so I think it's cool to share too that some of the tips that we receive at the event proceeds from the beer are
going to help the next phase of light park.
So we're hopeful that people take a peek at those renderings while they're at the event and want to help us build the next great light park.
And the music comes out great there because it goes over the water.
When it comes this way, it sounds really good.
Yeah.
It's a great venue.
Wow.
It has.
a vision, and it's got a great future, but it needs, you know, permanent restrooms.
It needs a lot of things, but it's, it's- And it'll get there.
You're right, the location is there, it's on the water.
You learn from other- And for being a downtown type thing.
Right, it is.
To have that much room.
Yeah, that's gonna be great.
Well, I just, thanks for all you're doing on this.
I think this is, it takes a, I was talking to James yesterday, who of course runs the park system in Green Bay, and, you know, Aaron Popkey, there's just been a lot of, I'm not gonna fragment him, but there's been a lot of
There's been a lot of different units that have had to work together to pull this off.
This has been such a joy and I think if you ask any of us, whether it's James or Jen from downtown or even, we work with Discover Green Bay all the time.
But this is 2.0.
This is a whole nother level.
And we have truly all enjoyed being able to work this closely together to bring something this awesome to the community.
And we just really hope that people stick around.
I think people were so, oh my gosh, I want to get out of town.
I don't want to deal with it.
Please stay.
This is going to be something so cool to be a part of.
And even if you don't want to put up with all the people at the campus, just be grateful and thankful that
Green Bay is being offered the opportunity to host something like this.
Well, you know the part I kind of proud of for this community Okay, it's a one-time deal you have no I mean you could tend other people's drafts But still you've never actually put something like this on before you got one shot at it maybe for eternity The world is watching the
world is watching
but the attitude around here amongst people like yourself at some of the business like we got this
Do you know what I mean?
It's like, yeah.
There's a little bit of shaky confidence in there,
yeah.
It's like, you know, oh, that's great and all these great things, but you know what?
We know how to throw a party.
We
do.
Yeah.
Mary Roddy, great having you on.
Congratulations to all the great work you're doing.
you.
Keep it going.
All right, we're going to start a great break.
Back
after
this.
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Welcome back, Mino and the Mayor here.
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And of course, the Civic Media app 33 in downtown Green Bay, 36 and after in 34.
downtown Oshkosh, high in the lower 50s and some sunshine today.
Well, I'll tell you what, we're talking about something right now that this is funny, since the day I moved to Green Bay basically, till now, I've seen the wonderful transgression, water-wise, with the fox and other bodies of water, and you never really knew who was behind the scenes, behind the curtain.
Making this stuff work.
And it's great to have two guys in here right now.
Dean Holger and Charlie Frisk, Vice President, Clean Water Action Council, 40th anniversary.
Dean, Executive Director, Board President, Charlie, Vice President, what you guys have done since 1935, like I said, since I first moved to town here.
It's pretty amazing where you've taken two incredible, you took a body of water.
that as you, during the break, it was almost like a living sewer.
And now it's one of the great fisheries in the United States.
That's a pretty commendable achievement, isn't it?
Yes, certainly is.
Good morning.
And sometimes it's a little bit, we live in a great community, but it's a little bit overshadowed sometimes by other things.
I mean, we don't.
Packers and right now this week it's all the draft, the draft, the draft.
And I'm so glad that you came this week on your 40th anniversary because we need to talk about what really makes this community work and the fact that the Clean Water Action Council is celebrating 40 years and take us back to, you know, 1985 when you two guys are like, look, we got to do something here.
I mean, we've got, you know, the only thing we got here is carpet and bullhead and nothing's happening in the water.
There's like a Lake Erie almost, wasn't it?
In certain ways.
The Clean Water Action Council began in 1985, and the thing that triggered it was the arrival of the Greenpeace ship, The Free, and they came in July of 1985, and they came here to highlight the problems of the toxics, PCBs in particular, that were being dumped into the Fox River and into Green Bay.
Now, it was already pretty exciting to have an international organization like Greenpeace arriving in Green Bay, but it became a whole lot more exciting when about
two or three weeks before the arrival of the free in New Zealand, the French Secret Service bombed the ship, the Rainbow Warrior that was there to, the Greenpeace ship, the Rainbow Warrior was there protesting the fact that the French government was testing nuclear bombs on islands in the South Pacific.
Bikini Island
was
one of the big ones.
Yep, Bikini Atoll.
Bikini Atoll, yeah.
Yes, and they sunk the ship and they killed the Greenpeace photographer.
He was killed in the explosion.
And so all of a sudden, this was very controversial.
The original property owner that was gonna let the Greenpeace ship dock refused to let them dock because he was concerned about something like that happening here.
And eventually the city of Green Bay agreed to let them dock at the city dock.
And after Greenpeace, the very afternoon that they left, about a dozen of us got together and said, we've got to do something.
You know, they're going to leave and nothing's going to happen.
And that's when we formed the Clean Water Action Council.
If I can ask this, how did Greenpeace go from Australia, New Zealand, the South Pacific, McKinney, to knowing about the Fox River and downtown Green Bay being such an issue?
I think that the degree of toxics, there had been studies being done on that.
And they realized that
because of the Federal Clean Water Act of 1972 that the fishing was starting to recover, but the fish were dangerous to eat.
And they were causing the cross-billed cormorants and things like that.
There were fish, you know, birds that
were
dying because of the toxins.
They'd eat
the fish that
had the
toxins.
Yep.
Yep.
And that's why that happened.
And the...
the cleanup of the PCBs was kind of a signature victory for the Clean Water Action Council.
I've talked to people that, other people that were involved in that, and they said, had it not been for Clean Water Action Council, they're not sure if we'd ever got the PCBs out of the Fox River.
Unbelievable.
And that, Dean, I pronounced your last name for me, Holger.
That is correct.
Holger, okay, wanna make sure I got that right.
Executive Director, Board President, and Charlie Frisk, Vice President, Clean Water Action Council, 40th anniversary.
When you guys started this, did you have any vision?
You're going to turn that from a sewer, literally, to one of the great fishing spots in the United States.
Whoever wants to jump.
I
do think that
that was our
goal.
fishing was already getting pretty good.
The fish just weren't
I
30 years of the process.
mean?
Was that the goal back
the goal.
was the goal.
You know, I know there was, you know, there was quite a battle over just how thorough the cleanup should be.
Right.
And there were, you
know, someone
just
to do capping and the Clean Water Action Council continually said,
that the really contaminated areas need to be dredged.
And so it ended up being a combination of capping and dredging, which made it financially feasible.
And it was, you know, it was a great success.
The, there's still PCBs out there, but they're at a safe level now and they're dropping every year.
Were people years ago, let's say 60 years ago, were people factories, whomever allowed to dump literally anything they wanted into the water?
Like, were there any restrictions?
Before the,
before the federal Clean Water Act,
there were virtually no restrictions.
I mean, I've heard that the Wisconsin River in Stevens Point, that small animals could actually walk across the river on top of the debris that was being dumped into the
Unbelievable.
That was one of the many... And this is in our lifetime.
We're not talking the 20s.
Well, no, the county board, we were at a ton of meetings together on that stuff, but one of the arguments were, yet the paper companies paid for this, but they were like, it wasn't illegal at the time.
I mean, it just, it just wasn't.
I mean, that was a fact, but- Do
we not know what PCBs were then?
Do we not know the ramifications?
I think actually when they first started dumping them, people did not know the ramifications.
I think it was, it started to show with the wildlife and then people thinking, well, if it's doing
But anyway, that did get resolved and it did get cleaned up.
And I mean, you've got to, you guys got to feel great about that.
You're both educators, which I think you've stuck with it.
What I give you both credit for, and I've been, we've all been in a lot of your meetings, you've kept this on the front page.
Well, and the thing is, is that when the PCB battle was over, there were many others, and Dean is much more qualified to talk to you about the accomplishments that the Clean Water Action Council has made since the time of the PCB battle, because
not
many since then.
Well, one of the things that Clean Water Action Council does,
is it hears from the community and its members about things that they're concerned about.
So people bring issues to us and we study the issue, we look at it, what can we do?
Is it really something that is relevant?
Is it factual information
they're
giving to us?
So after our research, we decide whether we're gonna take any action or not.
And that's a key part of our title, Clean Water Action Council is taking action.
So when I came on,
The first action that was brought to me, our concern was the gasification incinerator.
People were complaining and worried, and what are we gonna do about that?
And we took a little different position than just saying it's bad for health.
We said, was there something wrong with the permit that was issued?
Was there something that wasn't proper?
And that's how we approached it.
And then the end, the city...
did rescind the permit, and a local judge, circuit court judge, agreed with the city that it was, in fact, fraud involved in the permit.
So that was the first thing that was brought to us.
Other things were brought to us as well, such as water pollution in Kiwani County.
Drinking water was a real concern in Kiwani County, so we got involved there.
worked with the DNR.
The DNR invited us to be part of their technical advisory committee to rewrite NR 151 manure spreading rules in areas where there was karst topography.
That's where there's limestone that's fractured and not a lot of soil.
Well, that just didn't happen.
The DNR just didn't say, we got to do something about that.
Instead,
Clean Water Action Council and several other groups petitioned the EPA to come in under the Safe Drinking Water Act and tell the state they had to do something.
Because the states are, there's a federal act, but the states are commissioned to enforce that act.
So after the EPA came in, we had a lot of meetings, environmental groups, citizen groups.
farm groups came in and we came up with some ideas and eventually those changes were made to the manure spreading rules.
Who are some of the people that have been the major players to make to turn this all around?
You know, from where we were in 1985 to where we are in 2025, who are some people you'd like to give some accolades to that really stepped up?
Because it wasn't even all that popular of a thing at first, was it?
There was like some, you know, pushback, correct?
Correct.
And
In the early years of Clean Water Action Council, Becky Katers was our director and she was really a driver for the idea that we have to get those PCBs out of the river.
Very, very persistent.
I would say that since that time, Dean Hogar has been our major driver here with the Clean Water Action Council.
Becky reached a point where she was ready to retire from the position and Dean stepped in and we haven't had
like one thing that dominated totally like the PCB battle did, there's a lot of other things that Dean can tell you about that we've been dealing with in the time since that.
And one that he just mentioned, the problem of the manure spreading from the giant dairy farms is one of the biggest right now.
And that's something
Brown.
We're a Northeast Wisconsin organization.
So we have about eight counties
that we
do a lot of work in.
And, you know, it's a lot of focus in Brown, Kiwani, Dor, Marinette, Manitowoc, and this region.
So we're having a.
Huge banquet tomorrow night at the Riverside Ballroom and we still have tickets available until 5 p.m.
Today It's on our website cleanwateractioncounsel.org and you can purchase tickets there and you know we practice what we preach the banquet food venue is being supplied by a local farm organic
grass-fed beef and locally produced grown portobello mushrooms for the vegetarians
that are
organic.
So, you know, we really practice what we preach and we're really pleased that the Riverside Ballroom works with us to do that.
They're just not taking food off of a delivery truck and putting it out there
Everything's on
continue to work on.
Right, and we're always looking for increasing our membership.
Right.
We're at about 550 right now.
Nice.
Somebody can join at the banquet and we have great musical entertainment.
Often we have an educational piece learning about invasive species or legal issues.
We decide we should celebrate this year.
We have a musician who's going to be entertaining
time.
story.
amazing success story from a living sewer to one of the great fishing bodies in the country.
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We got the Milwaukee Brewers on the air 1135 today on WISS.
Wrap it up against the Detroit Tigers.
Tigers and Brewers 1135 on WISS.
Great having those guys here.
Jim, we got a question from Kathy though and I've asked this question too.
Uh whatever happened to cleaning the water for a beach at Bay Beach?
Well,
seems like every few years it pops back up, doesn't
It should be on the front burner.
That is a doable project, John.
That is a doable project.
It's been done on other shorelines in the state of Wisconsin.
It's not a priority right now for this administration, and that's fine.
You can do it every once, but that can and should be done.
It still needs a little bit more energy.
It needs more money.
But it was once an actual beach,
It
Mrs. Bush to
Bush's
Yes, okay.
It was great.
I knew her well.
But
I'm saying is, but then a horrible storm came through and wrecked the
But I'm just saying, I mean, not
guys did, they took...
one of the worst, most poised bodies of water.
And in a long time, I know, to turn into one of the great fishing venues
They need to get behind this project.
They've been out there before, and they support the Bay Beach project.
But it costs money to clean that up, but it has to be tested.
It can be a swimming beach.
Yes.
I don't have a good answer for her.
That needs to be re...
It can be done.
I mean when I was that was a high very high priority for me to make that a swimming beach And I think it can still be done, but it's it's not right now.
Okay.
I mean, I'm sorry to say that I wish no, I mean
But it's not like you're not seeing a way that's still loaded with PCBs.
We got a
talked about
that PCBs, you know, that was all flowing down from you know down the fox into that bay and that that's not happening anymore Okay, so there is a chance that could be absolutely.
I think that would be a green bay Yes, I think that would be so huge is incredible and we called it
Bay Beach for a reason, right?
It was a beach.
There was a beach.
argues with himself.
right.
Todd, let's talk a little bit about what today is when it comes to.
Yes, this is fun.
some great breweries.
Top craft pick.
We're talking about breweries and cider ease and distilleries and wineries in northeast Wisconsin.
Friday, two days from now at five o'clock is the final time for you to vote for the top craft pick with Mino and the mayor.
We've got 10 from around the area all the way down to Fond du Lac, all the way north of Green Bay.
And all you got to do is go to our website, wgbw.fm or wis.fm, click on Mino and the mayor's top
It's really simple.
It'll be right at the top.
You choose that, and that's where you get more details about each of the people who are on board.
Sturgeon Spirits is one of them.
New Denmark Distillery, Duck Creek Winery, Fifth Ward Brewery, Captain's Walk Winery, Stillmanck, right here in Green Bay.
O-O-B Brew House, Brow House in Appleton, Carrigan Brothers Winery, Ledge Rock Distillery, Time Keeper Distillery, Old Station 31 Spirits in Dale.
All of these, one of them will be crowned
the top craft pick next week, right here on Mino and the Mayor.
Love it.
And we haven't,
everyone that's taken part in this, we are one of us or somebody will attend every one
And we've talked or met the proprietors of all of them.
And they're all so impressive.
I was going to say they're all tied for.
one for customer service.
Oh my God, do they care about their customers, their packaging, their customer service?
They are, and talk about working together, the entrepreneurial spirit, we're gonna try new products, and I don't know, those are fun places to go to.
And when they come and vote for them, is there a link to their business then?
about these places
there.
I mean, learn about how their water comes from the limestone cliffs around their place and they grow, they grow something
here, take it into the laboratory or whatever you want to call it and make stuff out of
within.
The only thing that surprised me though
the person we had on the other day and we're talking about the corn.
Do you grow it?
Yes, Tavi.
And
like Wisconsin corn isn't the quite right something something.
For her bourbon.
that
the king of corn, but I guess it's not
organic
phenomenal.
lot.
She gave me a little sniffer
parking meter
that has become a big part of the whole Some
way.
I don't want to tap this beer that Mary brought it
But we will.
I know.
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