The Draft – Past & Present

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The Draft – Past & Present

Maino and the Mayor · Tue Apr 15, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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John Minow and Jim

John Maino

Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

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36 degrees in Green Bay, 36 in Alpton, 34 in Oshkosh.

Forecast, windy, partly sunny skies.

High on the upper 40s today on National Tax Day, Art Day, Titanic Remembrance Day, Laundry Day.

Hate doing I hate doing I hate that so much

Jackie Robinson why do people hate that laundry?

You guys think like in the old days were it yet it I do throw it in there and hit the button

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So I placed a bet for Julie the other day at the casino.

Mm-hmm.

She lost took Scotty Schaeffler.

Oh,

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yeah, I think she goes by hotness when she bets on people Yeah, if Brooks Kepke was in okay, she would have bet on Brooks

So, um, but I literally said I will make a, I will pay the money.

Okay.

If you just do my laundry once and iron.

Well, ironing

is different.

That

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sucks.

Yeah.

I thought there was going to be a

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thing one time where you could just put your clothes in a thing and boom, they're ironed.

No, I thought somebody's going to invent one of those like a steam room type thing.

Like wasn't attached.

Remember they used to come out with those

Todd?

You got to take it to a dry cleaner.

That's, that's what that's how they're in business.

They got, the shirts gotta go there.

That ain't cheap.

No.

All right.

It's just, neither... Can't remember the last time I used a dry cleaner.

Nothing against him, but I just... I only

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use it for my sport coats when they get stinky.

Yeah.

From sweating in them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You, of course, regular

basis.

Since I got out of college, I've been going to get my shirts on the dry cleaner.

Seriously?

Seriously.

I bet

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I... I have never brought a shirt to a dry cleaner.

I brought nothing except sport coats.

So this is just another one of how many bathrooms do you have in your

house?

That's just something that I've always, always, always have done.

And I'm sure there's stuff that you've always done that I haven't.

That's just the way you are and that's the way I am.

I've just always, always have

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done that.

Did your mom ever have one of those old washing machines?

Cause this is so far back, my mom's goes, Todd, you might be in the same, in the basement.

My grandma had one.

Where they

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got the thing that goes through the little, don't put your fingers in there.

Remember those?

I've seen those, but not it.

We didn't have that.

Okay.

We could afford that.

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Do you dry clean your linens?

We got a text here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

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Yeah.

Well, you think you're pulling over on Chip?

Yeah, he does.

But that dry clean, it's, what is it?

350 a shirt?

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I think it's like $7 a shirt.

Is it?

Yeah.

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I don't think you've dry cleaned in a while.

Well, you want to bet there's a receipt in that bag,

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I

bet.

I just

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picked

some

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up.

I don't think you paid for dry cleaning for a while.

There's

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a receipt in the bag?

Let's find it, Jim.

Go for it!

I think there might be one, isn't it?

I just played a jump in the contest.

Can Jim find the receipt by the bottom of the hour?

We've got 21 minutes,

actually 20 minutes and 30 seconds.

They send you a

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text and it's... You'll find an old cough drop, a corner.

And a ticket stuff

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from the I would tell you that a

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bombers game in 2026 it was before I was

married

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Are you okay?

Are you one of those guys though?

Does somebody does Donna do it for you or do you actually do it because there's a difference?

Just kind of a pain to bring stuff there and then whatever and you're

okay with that

They give you that little red bag.

Okay, throw shirts in there and drop it off.

They got a little tag that they send you text.

It's done and go pick it up and do the billing and goes to your credit card.

You know what I had to do one time?

I just want to say, John, I just want to tell you guys don't think this is a Donna thing.

I did this before we were married.

I've been married 35 years.

Heard that's why she married you.

So I've heard.

Anyway, you know what a sick

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feeling is.

I'm going to tell you a sick feeling.

Okay.

A sick feeling is when you're living in Manitowoc and you bring a sport coat.

to a dry cleaners in Green Bay.

And you got a banquet to do 60 miles north of there.

Oh, you forget.

And I got there.

I didn't know it closed so early on Saturday.

I had to go to Cole's and buy a whole new sport coat and everything for one banquet.

That sucks.

Now, what I would have done.

Yes.

Where did you take it?

Do you remember?

Was it Linderman's?

All the way.

It's the only place I've ever gone.

I would have called the owner.

He said, look, man, I have to get that tonight.

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How would I know?

How would I?

I would have no idea how to do that.

I'll be honest with you.

He's my cousin.

I think I went to the Allaway liquor and bottle of something for later.

That guy knows

you.

Love that guy.

Love that guy.

I go there too.

I love that store.

He is a really good guy.

It is

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such a great old school

store.

He is.

And he just sits on that little stool.

Yeah, he.

Anyway,

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what the hell's wrong with your Packers?

Yeah.

No, he's anyway I'm gonna go on that great way.

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I love those old place.

I've been around how many years 50 60 Oh my god, all of some maybe more now

and he

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can tell you where everything is just all of you'll tell you exactly where it is What shelf what whatever behind the thing right there?

You won't get off this won't move and it'll tell you exactly where everything

is cool about him is if you go in there and you

want to buy their time No,

I'll we look her

If you want to buy something that you don't really know,

he knows.

Exactly.

Let's say you want to buy a bottle of really good gin and you don't drink gin.

He will tell you.

Brittney Merlot

Absolutely.

How much you want

to spend?

I want to spend 20 bucks.

25 bucks.

You go, this is what you want to get.

Boom.

And it's there.

Wine and yeah.

I like that customer service.

I

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love it.

Love it.

Love it.

Love it.

Love those old school kind of places.

And he, he will talk.

Oh, he's

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great.

But it's fun talk.

Well, yeah, it's fun talk.

You know, fun talk.

Yeah.

It's, I really enjoy that a

lot.

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He listens

to us too,

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by the way.

Well, anyway, we got the draft coming up.

Of course, we've been talking about all kinds of different things, but one of the things I want to talk about is how unbelievably different it is.

And I know I've told this story at Nazem, but my very first day working.

as a professional broadcaster, whatever it's called in Green Bay, Wisconsin was on draft day of 1984.

That was my very first day starting and Randy Wright was one of the players drafted.

And again, it started, I think seven in the morning in New York, which would be six here, right?

Started so six o'clock in the morning, the draft would start.

Everybody's set up in the Packers locker room.

They bring up roasted chicken for lunch, which was great.

I mean, but you'd be there all day.

You'd be there from six in the morning.

Till almost when you do your late show, 10 o'clock, you gather 11, 11, 30 at night.

They treated you guys that well?

Yeah.

Oh, that's nice.

Yeah, Bob Noel was his name, the old equipment manager.

Well, that's

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nice.

OK.

Yeah.

So that was really good.

That way, I'll look forward to it.

But otherwise, just sit around for hours waiting, because you got one pick, and then you got 30 other teams that have 15 minutes to make a pick.

That's how long that would go.

It's just crazy.

But anyway, talked with Randy.

There's a little interview I did with him over the phone about the difference between draft 2025 and draft 1984.

Well, Randy Wright, first of all, how has the NFL draft changed from your time in 1984 till right now?

You know, that's a good question.

Fewer rounds.

When I came out in 84, there were 12 rounds.

It was all in one day.

because the USFL was a huge competitor at that point, so they didn't want players that were disappointed in getting drafted in the 6th round, 8th round, 10th round to go sign with the USFL.

So it was 12 rounds, it was all done in one day, and it was a quicker process.

I also think now a lot of the testing and the studying they do is much, much more in depth than the pre-draft process that I had to go through, so it's a much more complicated process now.

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How were you notified?

I was over by by phone and in fact it was it as interesting as I was actually on the phone with San Francisco and they had said they had made their fifth round pick I was a sixth round pick San Fran had made their fifth round pick and they had said if you're available in the sixth round we're going to draft you and I don't know whether that was true or not true but they said if you're available in the sixth round we're going to take you we hung up and literally 30

minutes later, the phone rang and I thought it was San Francisco and it was Green Bay and Green Bay had called and said, are you still available or did you sign with the USFL?

I said, nope, still available.

Haven't done that.

And they said, you've been drafted by Green Bay and we'll see you in a couple of days.

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Wow.

So were you drafted by the USFL or what was that like when you guys had that little bit of a bargaining chip?

You know what?

It was a nice process and I wouldn't say

It was as good as it is today with free agency because there was no free agency back when I was playing and that didn't come into play until the nineties.

But it was nice having alternative league that you could use I was drafted by the Memphis showboats of the USFL.

And it was actually talking to them quite a bit in January and February but it wasn't the great fit I had started to hear that I was going to be.

on the draft board, fifth round, sixth round, maybe fourth round if you're lucky.

So I felt that the NFL was going to be a realistic possibility and the USFL wasn't a great fit for me.

So I decided to wait and I'm glad I did because Green Bay was such a great fit for me and such a good spot for me to go.

It worked out well for me.

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You amazed at how big of an event this has become and second follow-up, are you going to by chance come to Green Bay for any of it?

You know I'm I may well I am a little surprised at how big it has become and how much of an event they make out of it and I will probably be up in Green Bay next year for the draft and it's in us what is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity how many times are you gonna get to do that to be able to.

To be a former player for Green Bay and to be able to go up there and partake in some of the activities that are going on and to be a part of it is, I think it'll be pretty special.

So yeah, probably we'll be up there at that point.

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One last question.

Are the bonuses pretty much the same these days as in yours when you're drafted?

Bonuses.

That's a trick question, right?

I will tell you a story.

I've got about a one and a half minute story.

When I was playing and I got drafted by Green Bay, I made a promise to myself, I will never ever look back and say, oh, I wish I'd played later.

I wish I'd played later.

And the reason I say that is in 1983, Terry Bradshaw played for the Pittsburgh Steelers, four-time Super Bowl winner.

His last year was 1983.

My rookie year was 1984.

So we never crossed paths, but we butted up next to each other.

He never made it his highest paid year what I made in my lowest paid year and When I found that fact out I said I will never complain about what future salaries are down the road knowing that I benefited at that time To that degree so I've I've salaries are a little bit different these days, but I'm grateful I had a chance to play when I did

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All right, Randy right former Green Bay Packer quarterback talk about the difference of about 30 years 1984 to 2025 and and he does make a pretty good point there where right, you know everybody that came after Did better than the guys that came before and a lot of those guys even just because I mean, you know back in the day I mean when I was covering the Packers on a daily basis, you know mid 80s the whole thought through the whatever whatever and you know the glory year guys would come around a lot more and boy they would

And somebody might be make okay, let's say he's making you two hundred thousand dollars in 1988 or something You know that was pretty good money and and one of these you know the guys would say okay I was making 24,000 right you know so it's ten times more so it's pretty hard to begrudge the guys down the road from you because You're the guys that came before you yeah,

and

That industry is just it's but unbelievable change.

It's not incremental monopoly money

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Monopoly money.

I don't know what sweat flip that switch but

anyway, right

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back or quarterback joining us We'll have some more people coming up like that down the road.

Yes, sir.

A quick break back at this

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John Maino

97.9 FM WGBW 98.3 and 96.5 FM WI SS in downtown

and Appleton.

I know we're talking a lot of the draft, but we should this is a once in a lifetime once in a lifetime and it's going to be always in our

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lifetime,

right?

And it's it's going to be here and it's going to be gone.

And although, you

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know, it'd be really cool

if it comes again.

If

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they know it.

Well, yes, you know, if it came here,

And all the stars were aligned right and people said why hold that any other place

the way

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we do

with the Super

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Bowl with the Super Bowl?

And

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they okay, they've done some of those things now the Pro Bowl used to be in Hawaii or is it Vegas now or whatever?

NBA has kind of done that It takes away a lot of the groundwork where you're starting from scratch every year who knows I'm just throwing this out there

Not that I've ever tossed out crazy things before in my career.

Everything has been based on factual matter.

Oh, yeah.

Vetted, documented,

analysis,

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backups, footnotes.

Right.

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99% of everything I talk

about is that way.

Research, yep.

Yep.

Test marketed.

What

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if this goes over unbelievably spectacularly well?

A tremendous experience

for the community.

If Del gets on his private jet and says, you know what, turn this thing around.

Yeah.

We're gonna have it in Green

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Bay, Wisconsin every year.

Who could complain I mean I mean somebody in in where?

Seattle it's gonna say That's not fair.

This is Green Bay man.

This is where it began.

This is the birthplace, right?

It's right here.

I I think that would be the ultimate thing now.

I'm not sure the community would be all that for it Because of all the different things and that still needs

to be played out.

They don't get their mail for four days,

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right?

Yeah,

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all those kind of things, but I'm just saying doing that first one

Rolling the sleeves up.

Yeah, jumping in that cold water.

Yeah,

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seeing how it goes, right?

Wouldn't

that be a good work?

That would be very, very cool.

Very.

It's going to be.

Yes.

Well, today we're going to learn a lot because

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if there was something.

OK, I always mention this one place Fenway Park.

If there was something baseball related, it is going to be one time ever at Fenway Park.

I would think of a way to go to Fenway Park

or Wrigley.

They're both good.

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Well, but I've been to Wrigley, so it's not even but.

But for the people around the country, you know, if the Packers aren't playing the San Diego, the Los Angeles Chargers, when is the Los Angeles Chargers fan going to come to Green Bay, Wisconsin?

You know, never.

But I mean, people could vacation in the New Yorks or the Boston's or whatever and still kind of, you know, do that.

But Green Bay is such a one stop destination.

But you got to be a diehard packer or NFL fan, excuse me, to be a part of it.

I don't know.

If things go well, I think that's something the NFL could.

should consider and I'm just tossing out there as a wild card, but I'm just saying they've done that before taking things and say, Hey, you know what?

Let's just keep it here.

Yeah.

Could be a little pushback, but okay.

Yeah, that'd be great.

Look, I'm all four.

Are you kidding me?

That'd be awesome.

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But they're, and they're not, they wouldn't really be taking anything away from anywhere else because they don't, the other places, I don't know, where is it going to be next year?

Has that ever been decided yet?

Oh yeah.

So two years, three years, two years, three.

Okay.

I mean, they've

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announced them.

Yeah.

Okay.

Um,

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where is the next one?

Do you know?

Yeah, I

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don't tell me

I

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should have asked you in that yesterday.

We're here.

Yeah.

Well, we could look that up.

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Yeah.

But anyway,

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I

mean, does that

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sound crazy?

Pittsburgh,

I believe.

Okay.

Let's go to Pittsburgh.

Oh my God.

Are you kidding me?

You would go to Pittsburgh.

That's

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the last place in

the world.

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I'd go to Pittsburgh because I'd go to Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania.

I want to see where Joe Namath grew up because I was the biggest Joe Namath fan in America.

People used to say I was so much like Joe Namath in high school.

It's mind boggling.

Pittsburgh is awesome.

Really?

Talk about a revitalized city.

Pittsburgh is awesome.

Really?

Anyway, we're going to have fun with this.

We're right on the cusp of this thing.

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This is going to be awesome.

But we

have some people coming in here to talk about, because this is far reaching.

So we've got the Fox Cities Convention visitor bureau coming in.

She's going to be great.

And then I'm sure the car museum is doing something with Dale Burnett running that place.

I would imagine.

Well, they got

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the James Bond.

Oh, yeah.

Patty Kiwis for who runs transit here in

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which is important.

It's great to have her on.

Right.

We're getting down to the nitty gritty.

How are we going to get there?

Before it was that we got two months.

Right.

Right.

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A month and a

half.

So she's

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OK.

We got to do it in seven days.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it's going to be fun.

Cool.

These people.

Good lineup.

But people like like Aaron said yesterday too, you know, start filling out your.

I don't want to call it a dance card because you made fun of me last time I said that but

I heard you say that on your weekend show too.

So, you know He uses that phrase a lot.

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How did that work?

Do we ever figure that out how a dance card actually worked?

I Think you scheduled dances with different people.

Yes.

I think that's what it is was still is your dance card Am I on your dance card?

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You know, it's time to leave it to be for episode.

I watch let's

take it

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lumpy lumpy Rutherford

went to, uh, he was doing, they were doing this contest, how many goldfish were in the thing.

And of course Eddie Haskell screwed it up.

He told everybody, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada,

So anyway, but you know one other thing one last quick thing about the draft for bringing our guests I still think it's one of those things where if if the weather is Nice, which it looks like it's going to be during a thing.

Yes, I will say this I think people will enjoy getting out because if the weather is crappy You don't really want to do too much in you know what I mean, but if the weather is nice I think that will help all the outlying areas a little bit more so it's like okay our team isn't drafting until three o'clock

Let's get up early and go to a door counting.

Let's go to an Oshka.

Let's go see EAA Museum.

You know, let's go to Aptin and see the Houdini.

I really think if the weather is nice, people are going to want to get out and about and enjoy more of Northeast Wisconsin.

And I think if they...

you know, go to Discover Green Bay or they, you know, download that one app.

There's a lot, a lot of info on there, a lot.

And that's, I hope they do that now though, John, that they just don't wait till they get here because you want to plan a little bit.

But I

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mean, like the EAA museum, how many chances do people have to go to the EAA museum if you're from again, you know?

the West Coast, Denver.

When do

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you come up just to go to the EAA

Museum?

Right, right.

If you like aviation.

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Yeah.

Well, that's, you

know, if you like cars like this, you know, there's just so many things going on.

You know, Maritime, if you like Mantuaq, you know, go to the sub.

You know, we should have done this

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stuff.

And I blame you.

We should have done like a year ago.

Yes.

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We're, hey, folks, we're coming in from Houston, Texas.

Do you tell us about a best steak place?

Do you tell us about a great.

I want to do that and you said no.

That's so untrue.

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Now, once again, here's Mino and the Mayor, John Mino and Jim Schmidt.

John Maino

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

We're talking all things draft today.

Pretty much got the executive director.

Fox City's Convention, Visitors Bureau, how the draft affects the Fox Cities, which is one of our favorite places in the state of Wisconsin.

We love

going down there.

Well, we're happy to come down.

We have so much going on there all the time.

We

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do.

It's one of those places where whenever I do good, I always try to think of a different thing.

Like the one, like last, I had to go to Oshkosh for an interview last week for one of my Vietnam guys.

And, but on the way back, it's like, dang it, I wish I could remember the name of the place in Monashia.

We have that young lady

come on from Chicago.

Oh, hoagies.

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Chicago hoagies.

It's like, I want to, you know what I mean?

There's always, every time you go down there,

Always have something else in the back of your mind since you're making the trip from Green Bay

Oh, yeah,

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you got to find something else because there's such cool other little things in the Fox cities

Yeah, there are or

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Pam's side.

Oh, hello Pam

And I think you know, we all joke too because we always like even people in the Fox cities, you know people from Kokona don't going to Nina You have to pack a lunch, right?

It's not that far friends

Well a lot of things couple things we really love is is your chamber the apple did the present and you're

airport

yes yes I flew in there yesterday I was I was down in a warmer climate

Arizona

Florida celebrating my brother's birthday but yeah flew into ATW and oh my god just yeah such great service and so easy

so convenient and so friendly

And you have those people with their little, can I help you?

And they're, and I've talked to them, retired people.

I would love, I want, give me a job there.

I mean, that

is just.

Please, please summon Florida, give them a job there.

Oh man.

Anyway, so how are things going in the Fox cities?

Wonderful, wonderful.

We're, you know, things are, we're, we're here, you know, helping Green Bay gear up for the draft.

We've been actually part of the process since the beginning.

I remember when Brad Toll from Discover Green Bay reached out to me and said, so we're going to do a bit.

And I went, okay, and we do, we call it a friendly co-operation, right?

When there's big stuff coming to Northeast Wisconsin, we all work together.

Cause we're a smaller- It

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overflows.

And then he went, yeah, we're building on the draft.

And he went, oh, okay.

So we were there from the get-go because they knew they needed, you know, when you look at the size of a Detroit, you know, what the Fox City's become is a suburb.

Right?

You know, when you look at the other rings and the population and the density.

So they knew, you know, we had the extra hotel rooms and the extra airlift.

So the two airports could kind of work together and bring people in.

So we've been kind of a part of the process from the beginning.

We helped with the bid.

We provided some, you know, room data and some airline, airlift data.

So really, really excited for Green Bay, you know, to be hosting this event.

It's going to be a wonderful

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opportunity.

hoping that we're all excited about it.

Feeling it?

We've had Brad on here a couple times.

Aaron Popkey, who works with the Green Bay Packs.

We're still this far away from feeling it, probably.

Does that

make sense?

We're going

to talk about it a lot more because it's going to be here and gone before we know

it.

So we're today is really fast, I think.

And so, no, we've got some fun things happening in the flexies.

And I think, first of all, we know our role, right?

We're kind of that supporting community.

We've got a lot of hotel rooms still available.

So I think one of the things

from a local perspective is understand there's still some great opportunities.

If you've got family and friends who don't live in the area and they want to come in for the draft, there's plenty of opportunity to stay.

Don't tell them to stay home because they can't find a room.

We've got plenty of rooms at the Fox Cities.

We've got some fun things going on Wednesday evening in downtown Appleton.

We have a song walk, which is being developed by Appleton Downtown Inc.

and The Mile of Music.

So it's kind of a mini mile of music Wednesday night in downtown Appleton, just a fun little event to play off.

And then we at this right

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college.

Yep, right down in college after but I believe 10 venues.

Okay, there'll be music in 10 venues.

So that's awesome.

I'm

done Sounds great.

How about the hotel rooms you mentioned?

I think it's like 14 times because I think there was an article I read that hotels were 3 to 14 is it or could you know

or?

Rates to me.

Yeah, I would know I would put our rates on par with you know

Packer home game, EAA, wait, is what I call, is what I'm talking with my hotels.

And

they deserve that.

Yeah.

And so yeah, absolutely, we got some great availability.

And we're doing some shuttles from Fox River Mall.

We're doing a park and ride at Fox River Mall.

Park your card, Fox or Moe, hop on a shuttle bus, come up here for the draft to really, you know, we're helping, obviously that just contributes to safety for people and making this an easy trip and fewer cars on the

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highway going in.

That's where you really hit on

biggest.

I will

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say this, Jim is kind of, I did certain things.

Okay.

What are, what are the things that there's still, it's still kind of a walk in space that could be a

big bugaboo.

people are very comfortable with parking

rides.

I

mean, especially the Fox, I mean, who doesn't know where that

is, right?

Everybody knows where Fox River Mall is.

They've given us the whole section of their parking lot.

We've got six coach buses, real easy trip up, you know, on both Thursday and Friday and really keep the, like I said, safety.

And I remember when I was talking with Brad, I'm like, what's the one thing we can do to help?

And he said, help reduce the traffic.

Right.

And so by not sending the cars up here, do you have a website?

Because you want us to pre-register for that, right?

Yeah, that's on foxities.org.

Go to our website.

There's a banner on the top that's all things draft related.

Click on that.

And then the information.

In fact, 10 AM this morning, our shuttle seats go live open to the public.

We had been reserving them for hotel guests.

Now what's remaining is going open to the public at 10 AM this

morning.

That's awesome.

All right.

Well, that's a great.

Service that you're off

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and then Pam I'm sure we can look it up as far as the details.

I mean is it like a day-long thing

or is it pretty much ours is pre-register, so Okay, you pick your slot right you pick your slot you pick your you pick your trip up and you pick your trip back so noon two and four leaving facts over mall And then leaving Green Bay.

I think it's 9 30 11 and 12 30 a.m

So you can reserve both spots, all reservations.

We're working with the folks up here in Green Bay.

There'll be a spot where that shuttle just picks you up.

Is this

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new, Pam?

I hadn't heard about this

before.

We have been working on it for the last couple weeks.

We have been really reserving it for our hotel guests first.

So now, like I said, at 10 o'clock today, so

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breaking news.

This is OK.

Wow.

There you go.

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Thank you, Bam.

Boy, how convenient it is for everybody in that area,

Oshkosh and Apte.

That's fantastic.

I think that is a concern.

And then something's.

That would be mine.

I wouldn't drive there.

If I lived in Apte, I wouldn't

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drive.

Two things, right?

And try

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to find

places.

The

congestion.

Because even on a Packer game,

just one third of the people.

Even on a Packer game, it gets right through rights down there.

It gets congestion ahead.

And the other thing is that you hear some scary parking rates.

Yes,

you know You know, I don't know what it's going to be because I think there's those there's still there's some availability But you hear some right so if you can take the the traffic and the rate away from me and give me six different options

Brittney Merlot

That's pretty

cool.

Yeah, that's great.

I'm glad.

Thank you for doing that Yeah, it's it's it's it's you know, obviously free parking at fact server mall roundtrip

ticket is $60 on these shuttles.

They're nice Cobison coaches.

So really, you know, and we're really happy that the mall and Cobison have really worked with us.

But yeah, the mall, you know, they're looking at their part two, they're thinking, damn, we got a big parking lot, it's April, come on, you know, it makes sense for us.

It's one of the things that we can do.

And yeah, if we can keep the, you know, if we can keep the locals off the roadways, you know, that's going to help you up here in Green Bay with just traffic flow and congestion.

So happy to do

it.

Have you driven around the stadium lately?

I have not.

You

drive around the stadium after you're on the air here, you'll take the bus next time.

Yeah, I

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will say this.

So I was surprised just the other day.

I think it was on Ridge.

and fairly close to stadium.

And a guy had a homemade sign, $100 a day parking.

I don't know if they're not getting the word out ahead of time.

And once people start coming in, it'll be grabbed, you know, right away.

But I'm still surprised that we're basically a week away from people coming into town and something would still be available like that.

I mean, like I said, I am a little concerned that right the last minute, all this stuff is just going

to shrink.

So I told Johnny I looked at a property in front of our zones of property this morning before I came.

down here, and it's still available.

So I think price will make it less available.

Right.

Yeah, absolutely.

And we've been talking with our, like I said, our hotel rates in the Flax Cities are right around what you'd pay during a normal home packer game and EAA.

So that's to be expected in

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a

high demand week.

And I've heard too that, you know, if you're looking for a family event Saturday during the draft is a really nice family time.

All kinds of things happening.

Yeah.

Unbelievable.

That's kind of a little more casual, you know.

What are

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some of the things in your area though?

If you could like hand out a flyer for everybody that's from out of town comes to take your shuttles from Fox River Mall up to Green Bay.

What would you would be like your top 10 things?

Hey, folks, I know the draft is the reason you're here.

But what are some of the other things you might want to consider?

So obviously.

Just go to Fox River Mall.

We, you know, just an amazing destination, some great stores in the mall.

One of our top, really our top destination.

It's still a regional draw.

Go catch the Wisconsin Timberettlers.

Brittney Merlot

Now,

the Brewers, of course, put them on the road during the draft because nobody knew what to expect.

But even at the stadium during the draft, they're gonna have some watching on the big screen.

You can watch from the club seats and watch the draft to have a little fun.

You have done quite a bit of viewing.

Yeah

opportunities in the Fox Valley.

Yeah, I

think it's really cool I know that the stadium is one of them where you can just absolutely So I think that's

awesome.

You know, we've talked about this

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I will say they utilize it even for like Halloween last year.

That was like the hub.

Yeah, they've done a really nice job of using that for other venues

Oh, yeah, they they that venue especially the club seats upstairs They've used it for all kinds of great things and it's location right on 41 there and

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more parking than you'll ever need

when they when they put there You know your corporate logo on their jumbo trying everybody

And you know if you're having an event there everybody on 41 sees that look so they're really smart marketers beautiful facility They got the fun slide now, which is kind of like yeah cool little claustrophobic.

I'm a little scared of

But

I want to

see

you guys

go down that slide No, I

can't

no,

he's

I

told you

what

happened.

Yeah.

No, he's not no great America I'll go

you had an incident we had an incident great America

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to

One was on the Lazy River.

The Lazy River.

Like everybody goes on the Lazy River without incident.

That's pretty open.

It is.

And it's not deep, right?

It's what is at what?

Four feet?

Four and a half feet?

The depth doesn't matter, Jim.

Yeah.

And then you go on this inner tube, which is anybody.

My

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daughter says she's behind me on inner tube.

My little daughter.

And I turn like this and I lean too far and the inner tube shut up and I got.

Jettisoned out and my knee I could still show you the scar my knee ripped against the wall of the Lazy River So now these kids were screaming because there's blood in the

water.

Oh boy,

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so they take me out So get that wrapped up yet.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, one do these good things for my daughters We're going down one of those huge slides here.

Yeah, okay Just wearing a pair of you know nice basketball shorts or not to get nobody told me you got to really keep your feet together your legs together when you hit and I did and I two guys had it

Uh, assist me over to the fence.

Oh, boy.

Okay.

So maybe the slide isn't for you, but most people will enjoy the big slide at vaccine stage.

I'm just

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saying be careful.

Those are, those are more dangerous than people realize.

There's

thousands of people that go down that slide every day.

And hundreds get hurt.

And hundreds.

When you turn on the inner tube, you know it's round, you know it's, it's the weight shifts, it's gonna, it's just...

Pam, can you stick around for a few minutes?

We'll talk about something

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more productive.

We're asking a question, Pam.

It's a simple question.

Give us some of the things to do there.

You throw one thing and then you stop talking.

But

to the stadium?

I don't know, Pam.

There's a lot of stuff going on there.

We'll get right back to it.

We'll be right back.

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Don't come easy comes easy down in Appleton because I actually say the Fox the Fox City's Convention Business Bureau We're here with Pam Seidel and Pam, you know, you're you're the VCB or what do you call yourselves

convention with CVB

CVB

So it's a little bit soup and all right

you guys love that stuff

We touched on your great airport

and all

the direct flights you have.

And I just want to plug that again, because you take it, you've taken it, what, three times in the last few weeks to Savannah,

Florida?

Yeah, to Savannah, to Sarasota, and to Punta Gorda, and, you know, some nice direct flights, which is awesome.

It's so nice to get on the plane and just, when you land, you're there.

Johnny and I have kids in...

New York, so the direct flight now to New York, and then of course we go to Nashville all the time.

I want

to go to Arizona.

Phoenix, we've got a couple.

American added a direct to Phoenix as well too, so both American and Allegiant serve Phoenix.

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Do they go Phoenix or Mesa?

I think one of them is Mesa.

I can't remember which is which.

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I've heard that's easier to

get in and out of.

Sometimes those smaller airports are really, really sweet.

And of course again,

supporting Green Bay for the draft.

Extra flights were added into Appleton.

We've got, I think it's an increase of like 1,800 seats, an increase of 1,800 seats from the normal on Wednesday alone between the four carriers bringing in extra people.

So that's been fun.

And we're gonna- Looks like

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you're drinking chilled beer there.

Just want you

to know what that- I know, I know, no, it's water.

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We're

talking

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about

all the

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cool labels now on beer that that's

what

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people look for.

And

you have some watch parties, some things going on at the stadium, which is gonna be fun.

People?

Go

ahead.

There's rooms available.

I think I want to tell people who are listening in Appleton, Oshkosh to tell their friends.

And this is new.

I mean, this is a great thing.

Yeah, tell your friends.

I think a lot of our people, you know, there's so much been so much excitement over it.

They're thinking that we're, you know, it's so loaded.

Oh my gosh, you can't get here.

Yes, you can.

We've got some great things.

I think people

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are thinking we missed the boat.

Yeah, no, you did not miss it.

It's still here.

Absolutely.

Come see us.

We're happy to create some hospitality.

I mean, and the nice thing is, as I mentioned before, we're running shuttles at Park and Ride from Fox River Mall up to Green Base.

You don't have to worry about the traffic.

But

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they need to reserve.

Well, they need to make reservations, beginning at 10 o'clock, our website, FoxCities.org.

You'll be able to reserve online.

Don't just show up.

Say, I'm

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going to take

this one.

No, you need to reserve in advance so we can manage the traffic.

And there's

different times, six different opportunities that

you

thought this one through.

Both coming and going.

So that way, we don't have everybody deciding they want to take one.

You reserve both times.

OK, cool.

And we've got the Song Walk Wednesday night, which, again, I want to give a plug to our friends at Milo Music.

and Appleton Downtown Inc.

They threw this together really fast, but about 10 venues in Downtown Appleton Wednesday night, mini-mile of music, there'll be artists.

Some of your favorite, more local, mile of music artists will be playing throughout Downtown Appleton Wednesday evening, so come on down and join

us.

This is awesome.

This is cool.

What you guys are gonna say is why don't you come back?

There's

also some great another great and then we've been involved in this both in downtown Appleton and in downtown Nina They do video projection art.

So this is like, you know, everyone is into the murals, right?

Everybody was doing murals.

We've moved.

We

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are two murals here.

They're lovely.

Spencer

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Nolan young.

He's amazing.

He's

Does some fence painting he does cleats for like all the teams he is he sought after and he can really set his own price.

He painted those with a football.

That's awesome.

And a clean.

No brushes.

No brushes.

Yeah.

Well, what we're doing is we're doing video projection on the sides of buildings.

Now, and I know that kind of sounds like, OK, what?

Downtown Appleton, they're going to be projecting on the front of the Fox Cities Performing Arts Center.

If you know, they're big,

Brittney Merlot

oh,

they're big.

Rotunda is gray.

They're going to be projecting some football imagery.

Downtown Nina has sides of green greens, poor house.

And then they have an alley where they've got some beautiful and it's all video projection art.

They're moving to.

football themes.

They've been doing sort of a spring theme.

They're moving to football themes.

So it'll be interactive.

It'll be historic video footage of a team.

That's cool.

It will be.

So both in downtown Appleton.

On the facade of the Foxy's Performing Arts Center in downtown Nina, a site of Green's Poor House in downtown Nina, and through their alley that they have between Town Council and Zacca Teches.

So head on down to one of those who just have fun stuff going on all weekend.

In downtown Nina, if you haven't been to downtown Nina recently.

We

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had a young lady on the other day talk about downtown Nina.

The plaza in downtown Nina is just incredible.

The skating rink, just such a quaint thing.

It's like a Hallmark movie.

should be in downtown Nina.

But they've got this video projection art, which is just so cool, massive, you know, imagery on the sides.

You can just kind of walk through downtown, see the different videos, and it's kind of like changing murals all the time.

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What if they want to talk about different destinations?

People from out of town would not be able to go maybe anywhere else to a place that during the day is an authentic German restaurant and at night is like a disco

And then there's Clio's Christmas every day.

I just tell people if you haven't been to Clio's I'm not I can't even describe it to you.

Just go.

Yeah, just go just soak it in just

it's so nice

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and you come back in 20 years and that same person sent the

bar But what's nice about

about the Fox Cities is you really don't want to go someplace that's like everywhere USA, you know, with the CVS and Wal-Martin.

You have some... Well, it's a cracker barrel.

Oh, yeah.

No, I don't tell.

We've got so many great locally owned and run businesses.

And unique, right.

Yes, and unique things, right.

And that's what people look for.

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Ty, what's in it?

I can't think of the top of my head.

Our guy we had in here is a really

cool

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guy.

The German restaurant

and the nightclub.

Oh,

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the Obie Brauhaus.

Obie Brauhaus, yes.

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Phenomenal

place.

Also, if you look at it, so for some other great German food, Mark's East Side.

one of the best supper clubs in all of the Fox cities.

So he's got some great German food.

Nice.

All right.

Well, hey, this was, this was great.

Thank you for coming down here and really giving people more opportunities.

And

new information.

Right.

Because it's been a year and it's like, oh, 250,000 people.

You know, it's sold out when there's a Packer game with 70,000 people.

But you're saying, look, there's opportunities.

And not only that, you're, you know, you're putting a lot more into it besides a

Hotel rooms.

You've got the shuttle service.

You've got events going on.

Yeah, thanks for doing this Pam.

This is awesome.

Thanks for having me.

Do us a favor and

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touch base with us in really early next week.

See where you're at.

Right, okay.

You don't have to be sold

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out

or anything.

Sure, yeah.

Please keep us

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up to date.

Absolutely, we'll do.

Alright.

Thanks for having me.

Camsidele,

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executive director for Fox City's Convention and Visitors Bureau and as James said, congratulations on what you guys have done.

You guys, I know you guys are going to rock it.

Let's just be honest.

Brittney Merlot

That you

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do.

You know it too.

Darrell Bransky joining us in the automobile gallery right after this.

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