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Schmidt.

Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back, hour number three, and a beautiful Monday morning in downtown Green Bay, downtown Appleton, and downtown Oshkosh, pretty much 52 degrees across the board.

High in the mid-50s today, cloudy a little bit, windy with showers coming up later on Milwaukee Brewers in action.

On WISS tonight at 6.05, taking on the Tigers, coming off a couple of really tough losses.

Today is gardening day, it is pecan day, and it is dolphin day, which is after

since we're with the lady that used to live in Miami.

That's a little bit of a stretch.

That's good, okay.

Beth Nash, Indian Crossing Casino in Wapaka with an amazing entertainment lineup.

And I met you a few months ago.

We were both doing the show on channel five, Malayne and Lisa's show.

And you were talking about the amazing things you had going on there.

And I thought to myself, I came back, I told Todd, I said, I got somebody we got to get on the air because I don't know if people around here understand the amount of tremendous

entertainment coming to Wapaka these days.

Good morning, Beth.

Good morning.

I'm happy to be here.

Thank you.

Great to

have you.

Love Wapaka, but this is Top Shelf Entertainment.

I know.

I know.

It is.

It really

is.

I mean, it just is.

Look, I don't want to say how do you get that in Wapaka, but like, how do you get that in Wapaka?

Well, we are extremely excited because we are celebrating 100 years of the ICC.

So Indian Crossing Casino is turning 100 years in July.

I

didn't know they had casinos in Wisconsin 100 years ago.

Tell me about this.

It's got to be one of the oldest.

Well, and casino is a bit deceiving because we're not an actual gambling casino.

Right.

So we are a gathering place.

And that was one of the, if you look up the word casino, gathering place is one of the definitions.

So that's the one that they used back in 1925.

Got it.

Okay.

Beautiful.

Bingo though.

I mean, when you talk about a casino gathering place, what happened when you gathered?

They would gather for music, for fun, for dancing.

And we're all in the chain of lakes.

So that's really great.

So it's a wonderful venue.

Can people literally take their boats to your place?

and duck.

Yes.

That's so cool.

I've always

wanted to do that.

Yeah.

You can, we have new docks as of last year.

They're beautiful.

We can fit over 20, we have 20 dock slips and people can come, boat up, you can order food, eat it on your boat.

Love it.

Drinks, yeah.

So if I didn't work with a cheap bleep, we would have a boat this summer.

Not me.

Yeah, you.

No, no, no, no.

I told you all I needed it was half and I'll take care of everything else.

But

no.

Want to go have some?

Sure.

It

would be up at the Chin Lakes.

Tell me though, let's talk about some of this entertainment you have.

I mean, Beach Boys glam band.

It goes on and on.

But I think it's awesome that

Beach Boys still bring it strong.

Oh, man.

Yeah, we're starting it big.

We're kicking off summer with the Beach Boys, and it's pretty neat.

They were actually back.

They performed at the Indian Crossing Casino in 1963.

Wow.

Yeah, so we're really, really excited to welcome them back and kick off summer.

It's going to be a good time.

That's cool.

Right.

And that's followed by, do you want to go through some of your list?

Go right

ahead.

Yeah.

I have got, I've brought the whole list, actually.

So we've got- We

almost have the same glasses, by the way.

But

Amazon specials?

Dollar

Tree.

Believe me, he just says that.

No, your

glasses are much nicer.

They're not $1 glasses though.

They're $1.25 glasses.

There we

go.

But this is coming up.

I mean, May 21st is when this kicks off with the Beach

Boys.

May 21st, yep, kicking off to summer.

It's their Sounds of Summer Tour.

It's going to be a lot of fun.

And if you haven't been to the Indian Crossing Casino to watch a music event, it's incredible.

We limit it.

What's the setting?

Well, it's on the water.

So it's this big, beautiful venue.

It's got the historic charm.

However, we've been doing updates to the casino the past two years.

just adding new flooring, just giving the Indian Crossing Casino the facelift that it needed to stay current, but keeping that iconic charm that

it's had

since 1925.

So you're stepping into a little piece of history, but it's really a cool piece of history.

And then when you go into the bar and restaurant area, you're right on the chain of lakes, you're on the channel, there's water.

and all the boat traffic that you get to see.

It's really exciting.

They've added a new part, so you walk out the back area and there's a place called The Green.

It's gorgeous.

You feel like you've just stepped out somewhere else and you're instantly on vacation.

A beautiful green area.

There's Adirondack chairs.

We have live music Wednesday nights outside on the green.

Sounds like the Cape Cod or the Hamptons or some kind of those resorts people used to go to in the summers.

Yeah, you feel like you're transported somewhere else.

But back to the venue, then we've got a beautiful concert hall and dance floor and the iconic Indian Crossing Casino stage.

and we're really excited to welcome the Beach Boys on Wednesday the 21st.

Tickets are available.

Are there two tiered ticket prices?

Because one is standing, one is seated.

Tell me about how that works so we can get a feel for it when we go there.

Yeah, you got it.

We've got upfront.

It's going to be a little separate area for upfront and then standing room.

Both areas are standing room.

One's just a little bit closer to this stage, but all of them are great tickets.

There's no ticket where

There's no balcony that you'll be standing on from afar.

It's just beautiful.

You're right there.

So everybody is up close.

It's

awesome.

Love

it.

To see the Beach

Boys.

To see the Beach Boys.

That's great.

To see the Beach Boys.

Then we're going to bring on Warren and Quiet Riot.

So they're going to be here on June 28th.

That would be what Todd listed to in high school.

Not even a question, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

So that's why Todd and I are getting along.

You know, we got that going on for us.

Yeah.

I'm really excited about both of those.

And then on July 11th, we're welcoming back the Bodie.

They've been a couple of times, of course, one of Wisconsin's favorites.

One of my favorites.

They were there last year.

It's going to be a little different this year.

It's basically evening with the Bodines, so we've got two sets of Bodines.

That's cool.

Yeah, that's

super cool.

It's gonna be really neat.

You know, I mentioned the water a little bit.

I was at one concert last summer, I think it was, and the Glam Band was playing.

And we were, it was like so packed, we went up to like above the submarine museum.

So he sat right there with that sound coming over the water.

Oh my Lord, that's a whole different element.

Isn't it though?

I mean, what venue is on the water?

Not very many.

It's a pretty unique thing.

That was great.

Yeah.

Now, let me ask you something about this.

When you get people to come up to Wapaka or that, you know, these entertainers, they're like, where's the Wapaka?

Where's the whatever?

And then they bet when they come there, it's like, oh my gosh, is this cool?

I bet that happens.

Oh, all the time.

Yeah.

So it is, it's a very beautiful place.

It's a small town, but we are doing big things.

They've got a beautiful downtown area that was just recently renovated, lots of shops and restaurants there.

They're closer to the chain of lakes is a little area called King, and they also have shops and restaurants.

I've been to King of Thotwell.

I've been King a hundred times.

for my World War II and Vietnam veterans visiting them at the King home.

Oh, sure.

Great.

Amazing cemetery.

One of the most awe-inspiring things a few years back.

I had to go do the written story and I got there really early on Memorial Day when the sun was like coming up and it was like coming through the mist and everything on the hill with those real, I mean, from World War II, from World War I, from the Civil War, all those amazing tombstones.

I mean, it's like a mini version of Arlington.

It really and truly is the cemetery.

in King, the Veteran's Cemetery.

It's incredible.

Yeah, I'm really glad that you mentioned that because it is.

It's gorgeous.

It is beautiful and we're really fortunate that we've got so many special places in Wapaka.

And it took me an hour and 15 minutes to get here today.

So we're not far from Great Bay at all.

Right.

Piece

of cake.

Yeah.

We were all there.

We went to Kruitz House.

When you forgot your keys, we turned around and went back.

Plainfield.

Yeah.

Plainfield's pretty close, right?

Not far.

Yeah.

We went to Plainfield and then we were driving back to Green

Bay.

He won't give up on this story.

And he forgot

his keys so we had to turn around in Wapaka.

So I saw your city a little bit and then we went back to Plainfield, got his keys and then we drove back to Green Bay.

Just died.

That's the last time I was in Wapaka.

It didn't take long to go back at my keys because then when we were driving, it goes, wow, is that guy going fast?

I go, how fast?

It goes, I don't know.

I'm going 95 and he just passed me.

I

was

late.

True story.

I had to work there.

I had to work.

I had to work.

I

had to work.

So anyway,

anyway.

But

you do have a great city.

It's a clean city.

It's easy to get around.

And you have a wonderful place there, but you have other restaurants and shops

and things too.

I

just want to say that.

There is.

If you haven't been to

Wapaka, there's a lot to do.

Do you guys have watching?

at your place?

Uh, not at our place.

Okay.

Yeah, but there is plenty of logic in my pack.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But the chain of lakes is beautiful.

And then, you know, if you're a kayak or a paddle boarder, there's 20, I forget, 21 lakes that are all connected.

Um, so it's great for anyone that loves any kind of water.

Ever see Jim Roman there?

I haven't.

because I think he's got a place there in one packet.

Okay.

Somebody

help me on Jim Roll, Jim Roll.

Oh yeah, he has a place.

I didn't know that.

I thought he had a place.

I think he has a place on the chain of lakes.

Possibly.

Yes.

I'll have to Google that.

Okay.

Yeah.

No, I mean, there's a lot of, um, a lot of beautiful homes on the, on the chain there and a lot of people that come up from, from so many places really throughout the whole United States.

So yeah.

And we, um, we do more than music too.

So we, this Saturday, well, when we saw each other, Mike

it was because of the farmer's market.

That's right.

The indoor.

Yeah, the indoor farmer's market is what we were at.

So, John, when we were there, it was indoor farmer's market, and that was the thing that we started just this year, and that's great.

We've got our last indoor farmer's market this Saturday, so we're really excited to host that.

It's a spring-themed farmer's market, and we've got about 25 vendors that attend,

where else can you go, grab a coffee, grab a Bloody Mary, and shop around, support local farmers and growers.

I

love the variety.

Does the city do the outdoor farmers market there in the summer?

They do, and that's downtown.

Right, yeah.

Correct.

I thought they did.

That's cool.

Are you involved with actually lining up these entertainers?

We have got an events manager.

Okay.

And she, her name is Brianna Yeska, and she handles our events.

She does a great job of planning a lot of fun things throughout the year.

We've got, we'll be doing Christmas in July again.

We have something that's called Casino Kids, so we do fun programs for kids 12 and under.

Parents can come sit out on the green, have some food, and let the kids kind of run around and play games and meet other kids.

And just making memories there, it's pretty special.

Do you rent out your venue for other things, weddings or conventions?

Yeah, quick texture

to me to wrap.

Eagle River is where Jim Romo is.

Okay, thank

you.

You know what?

Yes, I was just in Eagle River with some friends and I think they mentioned that he was maybe there.

If I had a

place up at the chain, you'd think people would say, John Minow has a place up

here.

They'd all drive by and try to get a glimpse.

Or they might say who?

There's

Minow cutting grass with a tank top and biker shorts.

We gotta get a picture.

Stick around, Beth.

India Cross Casino Entertainment lineup.

They got great things happening on the chain of lakes.

Back

after this.

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play drums in this.

Oh yeah.

1987.

I'll have to look it up.

Remember that?

Remember the old video, John Stamos play drums?

I don't remember that video, but I do hear that sometimes he makes guest appearances.

John Stamos does?

Yes.

Oh wow.

You know, kind of keeping my fingers crossed.

Well, that would be cool, wouldn't it?

Or maybe not John Stamos, but maybe John Minow shows up to play some drums.

And again, Jim, people are like,

Who?

1988, by the way.

All

right.

So Beth Nash, Indian crossing casino, which is not a casino, but it's got very, uh, it's where the Indians used to come in, kind of hang out.

And that's.

Right.

They were all, they were there around the lake.

So there's lots of Indian mounds, a lot of like Indian heritage, but.

Any arrowheads?

I haven't.

I'm

big into arrowheads and stuff.

You know, I think my mom thinks that she has.

Really?

I don't know if they're official, but she's really... Really?

Yeah, she's really into rocks and stuff.

Me too.

Oh, okay, cool.

Is

her mom gonna be there?

I'll come hang out with your mom.

She might be.

All right.

I would just, for people like him, I would just go drop pennies just to give him a thrill, you know what I mean?

Hey, tell me about your facility.

I mean, it's been upgraded.

It's a beautiful place.

Right.

Besides things that you put on as the director of marketing, you also run this out for corporate...

Weddings,

tell me about that.

We do, yeah, yes.

It's a beautiful venue for weddings.

Actually, we've been doing on our social media some flashback Fridays, showcasing some of the people that have been married there in the past.

So

have they been doing that for 100 years?

I don't know how long, but I will tell you a story that when I, gosh, it was back in probably 2012, I did crash a wedding.

and it was at the casino, I don't know who's wedding it was.

Were you working?

No, I was visiting as a guest to Wapaka and I, yeah, with some friends.

Wow!

Intentionally, you intentionally crashed a wedding.

Yeah, we wanted to dance.

Wow!

Yeah, so we didn't really know there was-

Did you bring in a box with like a phone book in it that was wrapped as you walked in?

Yeah.

Who is that?

That's the only time I've done it and it was at the IACC.

Did you

get busted?

almost right away.

Yeah.

Really?

Yeah, I don't even think we could dance a full song.

We actually just got a phone call in the bride from the weddings on the line.

She'd

like to talk to you.

I've been looking for you for a lot of years.

Do you have a, for someone who's going to, they cater to the food, do you have a restaurant facility there?

How

does that work?

You hooked up with my

brother in law.

So we really, we are a waterfront restaurant and bar.

We have.

delicious food, and we do our own catering.

So for weddings, it's full service, bar, food, lots of options to choose from.

And so, yeah, our event manager handles all of the weddings.

Our big wedding season is in the fall.

But yeah, we can book the ICC for those private weddings.

It's beautiful.

We do outdoor ceremonies right on the chain of lakes.

gorgeous place.

Do you have like

a pontoon or anything?

Do you personally?

Um, I don't personally have a pontoon.

I have a lot of friends that have pontoon.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um.

And speaking of pontoons, but it wasn't actually a pontoon.

It was a boat last July.

We did Christmas in July and we had Santa and Mrs. Claus on boat.

Yeah, it was really cool.

They got a lot of attention from all the other boaters coming by in July.

No one expected.

So we're doing that again.

It'll be fun in July.

It's

gotta be a point.

I mean, you know, you can live in different places and have a great job or live in a great place and have a job.

You seem like you got a little of both.

You live in a phenomenal place and have a pre-phenomenal job.

Yeah, I'm very, very lucky.

Yeah, congratulations.

I mean, I'm

sure it's well, well, well earned, but I'm just saying, wow.

Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

It's a great group to work with.

The guests of the Indian Crossing Casino are amazing.

You meet people that come from everywhere.

You know, the music is fabulous.

We've got a lot of...

cover bands that will be coming as well.

Let's

talk about some of those real quick.

Sure.

Yeah.

And you mentioned the Glam Band.

And they are, they're coming back as well.

So Glam Band, let me get the date.

24th.

May

24th.

So that's coming up.

We will be having an Easter brunch.

That's next Sunday.

So that'll be fun.

We will have an appearance from the Easter Bunny.

All right.

And some fun cocktails that are Easter themed.

Glam Band.

Ask your mother coming up.

Ask your mother.

Good friends of ours.

Okay, yep, they're great.

They were with us last summer.

They'll be back.

Music on the green, like I said, it's 530 to 830 on Wednesdays.

Why do I know the name

Cody James?

Um, I think he's a local artist.

Yeah.

So he's, but he's played other places as well.

Code James.

Yeah.

And the

Baudin's

the evening with the Baudin's

warrant.

Quiet.

Right.

I know.

Yeah.

And I'll, you can find this calendar that we're looking at right now.

That's all online on our website, indiancrossing casino.com.

Uh, so the lineup is there.

Links to any tickets are all there as well.

Um, I'm

just going to, I'm just going to read this just real quick.

Music on the green with just one of the people, Jake.

Okay.

Join us every Wednesday evening from 5.30 to 8.30 for music on the green at the Indian Cross Casino.

Enjoy live performances from talented local musicians on the green with a stunning chain of lakes setting the scene.

Grab dinner, sip on your favorite drink and soak in the music, the views and the laid back summer vibes.

It's the perfect midweek escape.

Great tunes, good company and unforgettable moments under the open sky.

How cool does that sound for a Wednesday?

Right.

I know.

It does.

It is an amazing place.

You go out there, sit on the Adirondack chair, have some dinner, alfresco, while music's playing in the background.

It doesn't get much better than that.

What

does alfresco mean?

I always wondered about that when I see alfresco.

Outside, I believe, right?

In the open air?

Something like that?

Yeah, alfresco.

Can I ask another really dumb question?

Probably.

What does a la carte mean?

Individual.

Individual?

Yeah.

How

about some more?

Any other questions this morning?

Yeah, anything

else like, um, entree?

Is that an appetizer?

No, appetizer would be appetizer.

Entree would be your main course.

And

the dessert, John, is what comes

after.

We need to get you out a little bit more.

Just

a little.

Just a

little.

The drive-thru hasn't been doing it for me.

Yeah.

I know.

Yeah.

A number five.

All right.

Well, this is going

to be great.

Had to embarrass me in front of a company, didn't you, dad?

Well, one thing I just want to say, too, is that I weren't 15 minutes.

If you don't want to spend the night, that is

nothing.

And from Appleton, it's even less.

Right.

And with

Appleton, Oshkosh are where big listeners are.

But that's just, it's right there.

Oh, listen to this.

Look quite right.

OK, this is going to be fun.

We're going to see you this summer for sure.

This entertainment is great.

And just Indian Casino, Indian Crossing.

IndianCrossincasino.com.

Correct.

OK,

I

got it.

I got it.

All the events, menus will be on there.

Yeah, we're excited.

1989.

Thank

you, Beth.

1989.

Oh, no, it's earlier than that.

No.

Oh, yeah.

You sure?

1983.

Thank you.

Wow.

Well, thank you

guys.

Good to see you.

Tavia Hopson burger old station 31 spirits coming

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Hey, thank you very much.

Welcome back.

Mino and the Mayor and a beautiful Monday morning special.

Thanks to Beth Nash, Indian Crossing Casino.

They got an entertainment lineup for this summer that just sounds spectacular.

Pulling up on our boat.

I'm buying this boat, Tavia.

1947.

Like, criss-craft, all wood.

Oh, beautiful.

With the portholes and everything.

Where did you find that?

He... Like, marketplace.

I

have a buddy.

Yes.

Oh.

But I'm... You're thinking about

it.

Yeah.

It's gorgeous, I bet.

I'm

gonna get a cool little cap.

Where

are you gonna start, John?

Where

are you gonna hold on?

I got a guy.

He's gonna help me out with that.

Do you have to refurbish it or is it ready to go?

Yeah.

I'm not sure what can I... What doesn't matter.

What can a motor's on

the

back?

Huh?

What can a motor's

on the back?

Big one.

Again, he has to embarrass me in front of company.

Let's see what happens.

Tavia Hoptenberger, old station 31 spirits.

We had such a good time with you in Oshkosh a few weeks back.

We just enjoyed the heck out of it.

We love everything about your place.

We love your family's incredible service and sacrifice to our communities and our country.

I mean, we hold you in the highest esteem.

Even if you didn't put out a great product of adult beverages and the whole thing just what you guys your whole How you created this it wasn't just let's open a bar, you know You guys went upon this an entirely different factor But one of your high priorities was making sure you embrace your community embrace the legacy of where you guys were and how you brought all these moving parts Together history and yes, they hit in a short time

I just want to say hello.

It's great to have you here.

Thank you so much.

And we're

just so impressed with you telling your story when we were down in Oshkosh at our studio.

Thank you.

We've had so many awesome unexpected experiences with the distillery.

I wish when we were just talking earlier, I was telling you that we've had a whole bunch of fire departments from around where we are.

bringing in things because those antiques or that memorabilia has been sitting in their fire stations and they don't feel like it's getting in the exposure to the public that they want.

So they've been bringing it into the fire down to the distillery.

So we could put it in our little museum space.

That's fantastic.

It's been pretty cool.

And everything comes with a story.

I know

that was the cool part about it when we first met you.

And my wife and I were at the Ostoff Resort in Elkhart Lake.

And they were talking about, you know,

to being better for the environment.

And one of the things they can do is buy more local.

We talked about your place.

And I just think that's a good thing to do.

And you have such a great product line and you're just so community driven.

I just think we have to move.

And it all comes together.

Great.

There's a reason for everything that great company got

there.

So anyway, I just, uh, we're very, very

proud of station 31 spirits in the nice town of

Dale,

which is cool.

And I, um, I, have you gone to your summer hours yet or you must be getting close.

We'll start in May on May.

Yes.

Yes.

The fishermen will start coming out and all the campers and all of the vacationers that will go through our little tiny town.

Well, tell our listeners your story quickly.

I just think it's a.

They

didn't listen when we were at our studios in Oshkosh at WISS.

Or they missed that great article that was just in the business times a couple weeks ago.

Yeah,

the business

news did a great job for us.

Such a great paper to lots of local community information.

Totally agree.

And that's 19 counties they cover.

It's impressive.

It's a pretty

good size

distribution.

So the distillery is in the old fire station in Dale, and that building was built in 1938.

So it has a fantastic history.

We've had so many people just pop over and tell us about memories that they have in that building, about events that have happened.

And in those days, the fire department really was kind of like the central hub.

It's right in the middle of

town.

Everything happened there.

You went there for all different parties or not only serving your community as fire service, but it was kind of the central hub of our community at that time.

So when we took over the building,

And it was kind of a hoity-toity job to be on that volunteer fire department, too, wasn't it?

I mean, you see that in those pictures.

They're awfully proud sitting there.

Proud, and it's impressive how well run those stations are.

They aren't heavily funded.

So a lot of the money that comes to a volunteer department comes either from the community itself or from doing some fundraising.

So it's definitely a labor of love and people are very proud.

And

pride.

That's what I mean.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

The number one thing that we talked about too is you came up with just some incredible drinks

that you

had on your menu.

And it's like you literally.

sat around and came up with many of these, correct?

Most of them, yes.

Are your family and everything?

My friends.

Explain that,

yeah.

So we have an R&D team.

R&D.

Research and development.

Oh, I'm sorry, okay.

Appetizer.

You have to test everything and you have coming up with these ideas.

Well, you're doing

it for the people.

You're doing it for the...

customers.

Absolutely.

That's why you're

sitting there and sampling those things over and over.

All day.

Yeah.

And it's kind of like making it.

We would sign up for that.

That's what we could sign up for.

Everybody wants to be on the R&D

team.

We have so many volunteers.

It's a really long

list.

The process is closed.

It

is.

Right now we're good.

Probably for the next 10

years.

Ticket to the anniversary to 38.

So

there you go.

All

right.

But tell us again a little bit about your heritage and how this all came about and where this is a personal family type thing.

So my family's been involved in the fire service since my memory of a child.

My dad started it off.

And then when we lived in Seymour, my uncle was right across the street and he was on the fire department.

So once dad joined the fire service in Seymour, then it just it becomes part of your family.

Right.

the brotherhood, the hospitality, the honor that you get and you described even the pride that you have.

So then when my husband and I moved out to Dale, we both wanted to be involved in the community.

It's pretty important to us to have community service.

So he joined the fire department and then our two sons ultimately joined the fire department, but we started the explorers program, which is a program that allows

teenagers to get involved in the fire department and they can go through the training, they can attend meetings, it at least gives them some perspective on what's happening in the fire service.

So with that program, then our two sons were in the explorers program and they now are both firefighters as well.

Both of our daughter-in-laws are involved in the fire service.

EMS, my brother.

So it's a long heritage collectively.

It's about 114 years that our family has in the service.

It's incredible.

Yes.

And I don't see it stopping anytime soon.

So just to take that a step further, the one building that became available, you wanted, was the former firehouse.

Right.

So that firehouse, when it became available, my husband said to me, I think we have to have it.

Okay.

What would you like to do with that?

And that's where the distillery idea came from was the building, I think in

I might be out of order a little bit, but the building came first, and I think the idea came second for the discussion.

You guys

have had some weird things in space somehow come together.

We have had a lot of strange things.

Wow.

Another one.

In a great way.

In the best way.

We have had such good luck and so many different blessings.

Yeah.

Can't even count them all.

Cool.

The distillery came after, so you just wanted the building.

I think my husband wanted the building.

It was, there's so many people that would come in and talk about it and reminisce about it.

It was hard to leave there and not reflect on all those conversations you had.

And it would have been so sad to see anything else ever happen to it, to see the doors close and maybe people never being able to go back in there again.

People in that area must just be so happy you guys have kept that alive.

I think so.

We definitely have gotten a lot of positive feedback from the community.

There's two schools.

or like two camps.

There's the camp that comes in and says, oh, I remember when my dad was a fireman.

And then the other camp is I remember when this was a different business and it's so nice to see the door still open.

And we have some pictures in there of some of the old firemen.

And then we also have a board where previous firemen like a plaque and they would have their names engraved in the plaque and people will come in and they

find someone, a relative maybe, like on the board.

And then they'll grab a little piece of paper and a pencil that we have sitting over there and they'll like-

Skit art?

Yeah, what's that called?

Yeah.

Skit.

Yeah,

just, yeah.

They do that then.

I can't remember.

The

wall in Washington, DC.

Right, yes.

Yeah.

Yeah, I can't think of

anything.

So you got into the distillery business and that's-

Chirkel sketch?

Chirkel sketch?

Chirkel

edge?

No, okay, never.

Appetizer.

But this has become very, very popular since what, 2000?