Trump’s FCC Threatens Free Press (Hour 1)

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Trump’s FCC Threatens Free Press (Hour 1)

John & Gordy · Mon Feb 2, 2026

Kathryn Lake

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It's John and Gordy.

We're back again.

Here we are.

It's a bright, beautiful, sunshiny kind of day in the capital of Wisconsin here in Madison.

And we're broadcasting at our home studios here, the headquarters.

And it's looking nice out there.

Sunny skies and temperatures are much milder than they were.

when we left you last week.

When they were just a Ringo song,

Ringo star song is sunshine life for me.

Oh, I do recall that

song.

It's

kind of

a sea seafaring type sound

to it.

I think that's a I think that's a Ringo song titled sail away Raymond.

Yes, okay.

That's it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Can we hear a little?

Yeah.

What is it?

The

sunshine.

There we go.

Yeah.

Yikes.

I do love it.

It's good.

Yeah, that's Ringo.

It's a good song.

He didn't do that in person.

He

did

that song in concert.

It did not do that

song.

It's a great

one.

Did not do that song.

Yeah.

Well, it is a bright sunny day here.

Also sunny in La Crosse.

There are 23 degrees.

Delz has clouds, 25.

Milwaukee has flurries right now.

Maybe he's a little lake effect

over

there or something.

Something's going on in Milwaukee.

26 degrees there.

And here in Madison.

Let's see, it is partly sunny in 25.

So, yeah, at least sunshine through much of the state, mixed in with a few clouds.

But we'll take mid-20s this time of year, mid to upper 20s.

It's all right.

Yeah,

it's pretty good.

Yeah,

all good here.

And did you have a good weekend?

I did.

Just in about 10 minutes, we're going to check in with Mike Clemens.

He is already in San Francisco, getting ready for the Super Bowl.

And it's also his birthday.

So we'll be talking to Mike.

It's good in just a few minutes.

I completely forgot about the

Super Bowl

completely.

Well, it's next Sunday.

I remembered it.

I remembered it yesterday.

So I had to ask Alexa whether the Super Bowl was tonight or not.

Well, they take a week off.

Yeah, they do.

That's how they get all the media hype coverage that they can possibly get for that.

Aaron Zommer's

Good to see

you here.

How was your weekend?

Good to see you as well.

It was good.

Nice

long weekend that I took to burn up some PTO.

Yesterday, I and my roommates were the only people within our age bracket who attended a monster jam, a monster truck rally in Milwaukee.

You went to a monster truck rally?

Why did

you do that?

Because my roommate, Elliot, is simultaneously six years old and 60 years old.

He loves just machinery in general and wanted to go.

Wow.

That's

pretty cool.

Had you ever been to a monster truck thing?

Yes, because I went to one with him at a smaller place around Madison a while ago.

So I've been to two now.

I saw

one a long time ago with my son.

when he was little.

Yeah.

And

yeah, it was fun.

You took him to the WWF too, right?

I did.

Yeah, that was here in Madison at the Old Dane County Coliseum, now the Alliance Center.

Right.

Yeah.

And that's where the monster truck show was as

well.

I think I saw part of one too when I was working with the radio station.

But you know, the thing that they concentrate on most is these giant monster trucks crushing other cars.

There was no

car crushing.

Apparently they stopped doing it a while ago because really killed too many drivers safety safety reasons and cost and logistics Because that it's become harder to find junkers and then get them there for cheap You can't just I mean apparently you could just roll up to a junkyard and be like I will take your finest piece of crap car Please and just roll out with it for really cheap before and now you can't do that and so they've decided it's not worth it.

I Knew a monster truck driver

And this is really weird, but she was skier at Wisconsin Dells at the Tommy Bartlett Show.

And she was a great skier.

And also, she was part of the Nervless Knox, where they climbed the big tall 60-foot poles and hang around up there and go upside down and do all the acrobatics while the poles sway back and forth.

And she was fearless.

And she decided she was going to take up monster truck driving.

And she, she did.

So she does that in the off season.

Wow.

Angelina knock.

Yes.

I don't know where she is now, but I think she, I think they live down in Florida.

The knock family.

Well, it's hope that she's around and still alive, you know.

Yeah.

So do you, uh, do you watch the Grammys last night at all?

Anybody see that show?

I caught some of it.

I did.

Yeah.

I, uh, I enjoyed the performance by, um,

Well, Lady Gaga came out wearing a lampshade or something.

I don't know what she was wearing.

Some kind of birdcage lampshady thing over her head.

But good, great performance though.

Really great singing.

Wasn't there a guy that showed

up

with

a

house on his

head?

Did

I see that on the red

carpet?

I don't know.

That might have been last year.

I didn't watch it at all.

I don't know.

I think there were two kids of some superstar and they were out there and one had a building for a head, you

know.

They wear some outrageous outfits, those superstars,

right?

There's nothing left of the Grammys.

There's nothing left of music, pop music today.

And

you know, Jesse Wells was up for four Grammys.

He won zero.

Wow.

Nothing.

Wow.

Yeah.

kind of a shocker I thought he would win at least one yeah you know for something but

new artist or

songwriter he wasn't up for new artist but I think he was up for Americana yes album that and Americana hit you know song you know that was a couple of them and Bruno Mars

did a opening performance.

I thought he's always, he's really fun.

He's really unbelievable.

He really is one of the best.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But some of those outfits, those people were wearing eye opening.

Are you going

to talk about that right now?

Really?

I was going to talk about Jamie Fox.

He had an outfit.

He had a cowboy outfit with a cowboy hat, great big cowboy hat with a flat brim and

like Melania.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Something like that.

Yeah.

And then it was Chapel Roan.

She came in with an outfit that was, well, different, very revealing, and the photographers went wild.

Yes.

Someone always does it.

It was... Somebody's gotta be outrageous, right?

Every year.

And the dress pushed the limit.

The dress was held up by...

Well, I had jewelry.

Lack of gravity, I don't know.

Lack of gravity.

Well, I remember Jennifer Lopez when she wore that really revealing outfit.

Sure.

Maybe this is like 10 years ago, 15 years ago.

It was more than that.

It was more than that.

It was more revealing than that.

The dress was called up by some jewelry.

That's it.

Good call there, Aaron.

The ring jewelry, right?

Okay, I think we should move on.

Otherwise, we're going to get a phone call.

Look,

I'm just going

to say that

if you know what we're talking about, I thought it was a very imaginative design.

I mean, thumbs up to the designer.

Not that, I mean, people should be walking around in that kind of dress.

All I'm saying is I would never have suggested it to any, anybody I was fitting a new dress on.

So,

I mean,

how do you suggest something like that?

By the way, I got this

great idea with these

rings.

It doesn't make any sense.

Well, it's just a good thing it was in Los Angeles, and it's nice and warm there, because, you know, it's just, otherwise... That's what you're concerned with, right?

Well, you know, did she get chilled?

She got a chilled, you know, could get to, you know, bronchitis or pneumonia or... He would only lift the dress up, I think.

Okay.

So,

uh... All right.

Let's try to...

Let's try to move on.

Look, I just think it's an interesting, adventurous design for

a

dress.

I

was very

impressed.

By the way, I think we should bring this up too while we're talking about the hoity-toity, right?

The Kennedy Center closing for two years.

Yeah, this is, gee, I wonder why.

Because they can't get anybody to perform there.

But Trump's saying it's gonna remodel it, right?

They're gonna completely remodel it.

That's why it's closed for two years.

That's gotta be it.

That way he doesn't have to worry about people just not coming.

Well, he was getting a lot of press with everybody canceling.

They were getting more press than he was.

Yeah,

he doesn't like

that.

Yeah.

Right.

Could we, could we play this Kennedy Center cut that I have?

It's cut 20, cut 20 for this month.

All right.

Well, it looks like the White House is learning an incredibly painful lesson tonight that

just because you can bully your way into things doesn't mean that everyone else on the playground is going to be forced to continue playing with you.

I'm referring to the shithead in the Oval Office's sudden announcement tonight that the Kennedy Center will be closing for two full years starting on July 4th supposedly for

renovations.

Totally believable, not at all just a very obvious excuse to cover up for the fact that upon him taking over the Kennedy Center, attempting to rename it and make it all about himself, artists started canceling any performances there in droves, including most recently, world renowned composer Philip Glass, you know, the guy that's done about 100 different movies.

This year is the 250th anniversary of our country.

There is no world in which an art center like

the Kennedy Center would have scheduled renovations that would take them out from participating in the massive celebrations that are going to be going on.

This is just yet another example of conservatives having to learn the hard way.

You can believe that might makes right, but that does not mean that the cool kids or the talented kids have to continue associating themselves with you.

You are not a king.

Artists are not court gestures.

You do not get to force them to perform for you.

Who

is it

Kendall Brown?

That's a Kendall Brown.

Yeah, okay Yeah, I think it's an awful lot and I thought it was a good commentary if you noticed of course Two years right the it's it's the famous two thing.

Yeah, it's always two two weeks two days two months Yeah, yeah, right.

So now to two years.

Oh, by the way, we got a text here from Al

In Madison, the person with the building on their head was Jaden Smith, Will Smith's son.

That was at the Grammys last

night.

I must have missed that.

I wondered if you wore it all through the Grammys.

I mean,

how'd you like to be sitting behind him?

Could you please remove the house from the top of your head so

we can see?

Yeah, that's very strange stuff.

Very weird.

It wouldn't seem comfortable at all, especially having drinks or something to eat.

How would you get stuff through the door?

Well, now I want to,

yeah.

Now you want to see it, right?

I do want to see it, yeah.

I have to jump online here in a

moment and take a look.

You had a call from my mega friend in Milwaukee.

Oh, yeah.

And he said, boy, I hate music now.

I just hate it.

He did not like the Grammys

at all.

Oh, it's, you know, it's all just a show.

That's all it is anymore.

You know, the awards are sort of secondary.

They just had one performance after just an incredible.

She was great, you know, and she won a Grammy.

Yeah,

she did.

She walked away.

She's incredible.

That that announcement is what got.

Uh, uh, who?

Trevor Noah

in

trouble.

Oh, really?

Yeah, no kidding.

We'll get to that.

All right.

Uh, coming up next, we're going to check it with Mike Clemens, ex-op in San Francisco getting ready for the big game coming up next weekend.

It's all coming up on John and Gordy.

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It's John and Gordy in the afternoon Aaron Zammer's at the controls And and it's about time that we start talking about the

Super Bowl Yes, we can yes, we can we've got the perfect person to talk about it with Mike Clemens Is with us good afternoon Mike

Hey

guys, yeah in San Francisco game kicks off Sunday at 5 30 Wisconsin time and

I'm at the NFL headquarters where all the media's at doing live broadcasts and it's pretty busy today.

Usually it kind of starts picking up a bar on Wednesday that San Francisco might have something to do with it.

You know what I'm saying?

I'm thinking that's true.

Yeah, it's a great place to be.

So first of all, before we get to all the game talk and everything like that, happy birthday to you, Mike.

Yes.

Oh, I appreciate that.

I appreciate that.

My birthday started off with

Did you feel something?

And then about an hour later, yeah, 4.0 on the Richter scale.

Really?

We went out to the Golden Gate Bridge, and then there's a little national park where you can go up there and take a picture of it.

And one of the guys in our crew was saying, as we're driving through this Holland Tunnel-like thing, to get over that area, he's like, man, can you imagine me stuck in here in a traffic jam and then they have like, you know.

I shifted the plates a little bit.

It was, shut up!

Shut

up!

And then

12 hours later, 4.0 out on the bay.

So yeah, that worked out nicely.

That was big.

And you felt it, right?

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

You

feel

that.

A little bit, a little

bit.

Yeah.

So set the stage for us here.

I know there are different things going on every day this week.

So both the teams are already there, right?

Patriots on the Seahawks, they're in town.

Seahawks had a short flight from Seattle and the Patriots came in from New England.

Patriots had a pep rally in Foxboro at the stadium.

And Mike Rabel, one year after struggling the last couple of years with the Titans losing records,

Derek Henry moving on the star running back to the Ravens and the Titans fire him and Robert Kraft the owner of the Patriots hires him and in one year the Patriots are back in the Super Bowl and they've got this quarterback this Drake May in his second year that I mean you know he's throwing some passes to look like Brady so somehow the Patriots are back in this thing their general manager Elliot Wolfe

Elliott is the son of Ron Wolf.

And once upon a time, Bob McGinn, who covered the Packers for the Journal, said, I think this is the next GM in waiting, because Ted Thompson's got him, you know, as an assistant, like 14, 15-year-old guy, like he was being groomed for the job.

But when Ted stepped down and Mark Murphy had to hire somebody, one of his co-workers, Brian Goodikins, got the job instead.

So Elliott had to go to the Browns, a couple of other stops, but now he's with a good organization, with the Patriots.

And in two years, he's got the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

Yeah.

Amazing.

That's good.

So now what I'm hearing is the Seahawks are favored to be winners on this.

Is that the latest?

And by how many points are they favored?

Yeah, I haven't seen that.

And I don't get into that stuff so later in the week because I need to talk to these teams.

But we're going to have access to these teams tonight.

What they call opening night.

They'll have them on the stage.

broadcast and NFL network.

And then we get to talk to these guys Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, sit down, have a literally have a cup of coffee with them and talk for 20 minutes or so to the coaches.

And we get the injury reports.

So that's stuff all factors in.

But Sam, Donald, a little more experienced quarterback.

We have a very good defense with Seattle against this, you know, young explosive Patriots team.

Well, you know Saturday night I've had a interesting bid on their newscast where they had to to come out say it to a guy and a woman and they're kind of rekindling their relationship

and

they

were

referring basically to the Super Bowl and Apparently these two teams have met long time before Right,

but they have yeah, they have I mean Seattle had a win in their hands and a guy named Malcolm Butler a rookie

intercepted a dumb call instead of it giving the ball to Marshawn Lynch.

Russell Wilson attempted a short little pass and it got intercepted there at the goal line and saved the sea auction having to go ahead score and Tom Brady and the Patriots upset and won that game.

So that's the last time these two guys these teams met in the Super Bowl.

talking with Mike Clemens here covering the Super Bowl this coming Sunday.

And so they have everything pretty well mapped out for the media there pretty much every day, don't they?

Yeah, and for security reasons too.

I mean, okay, you know, it's like TSA times 10.

Oh,

yeah, blockades, one way street shut down, and it gets worse as the week goes on.

But you know, we've had a tax.

you know it's a some more dangerous world so there's those kinds of things and it's tighter it's tougher and tougher to get in to this thing i've probably i'm like on number 22 or 23 and that's probably why i still can get you know credentialed for this thing plus with all the stations that we have across the state has helped me out as well but

Yeah, you have a schedule of events to cover and various press conferences meet with this, and then to put the stories out.

And we're pretty much here to help the NFL see if they can break last year's record of viewership.

More than Apollo 11 a couple of years ago.

How about

that?

When did the new Super Bowl commercials hit?

I haven't seen any yet.

Those come out

a couple of days.

I'm at the game.

They do have some publicity stuff like that.

But yeah, whatever.

It should be a good game.

You know, two younger teams, if you will.

I think you've got the coaching experience on the Patriots side with Mike Rable, the former Patriots linebacker.

But

there's a lot of,

there'll be plenty of matchups to figure out this year.

And I don't mind from the standpoint of, you know, there's, there's new faces in terms of the players in this thing to cover this week.

Well, very good, Mike.

Well, thanks for checking in with us and enjoy the rest of your birthday and the rest of this week.

And can we talk to you next Monday after the game?

Absolutely, yeah, yeah.

And I'll have a little update for you throughout the week.

OK, that would be

great.

where the good free food was for the media.

Yes,

please.

You have to tell us.

Well, don't overdo it, man.

You know, to keep ice out.

That's what I want to know.

All right.

All right.

Thank you, John.

Thank

you,

Gordy.

All right.

Take care now.

Thank you.

Mike Clemens, great sports guy reporting there on behalf of Civic Media.

We're coming back with more after this.

It's John and Gordy.

There's no time.

But now.

Yes.

Burton Cummings, Randy Backman.

Yeah.

I always said Backman.

Is I always wrong with that?

It's Backman, though.

It's Backman.

That's the way he pronounces it.

All right.

Randy Backman.

I saw a great little documentary on him.

Yeah?

Well, they said it all the way through.

The documentary

is Backman, right?

Yeah.

And it's really...

Quite a story.

Backman Turner overdrive.

Yeah.

That's the way it should have been pronounced, but we all said Bachman Turner.

BTO.

BTO.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But a

bunch of great songs, though.

Oh, I

know.

I wonder if they're still being played.

Anyplace.

Classic rock.

I don't listen to that.

OK.

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So what's happening in our world?

It's a crazy mixed up, revolving

globe.

I want to

talk about, I showed you the picture of...

Noah Smith, Jaden Smith rather, with the house on his head,

on his

shoulders.

He had a house on his shoulders.

From the Grammys last night.

Lots of unusual outfits, and that was probably one of the more unusual outfits, right?

Yes.

Not as good as the one we're thinking

about.

Chapel Roan, yes.

Chapel Roan, that's,

yeah.

All right, but here, this was a comment made by Trevor Noah.

At the Grammys and Trump reacted strongly rejecting claims referenced by Trevor the Mad King

is protecting his image, I guess.

I don't know.

You know, he's not open to criticism at all.

So the man, the

man

baby had a little tantrum about this is threat

lawsuits

again off with their

heads.

Well, let's check out cut 21.

This is the the humor displayed by Trevor Noah that Trump objects to song

of the year.

Congratulations, Billie Eilish.

Wow.

That is a Grammy that every artist wants, almost as much as Trump wants Greenland.

Which makes sense, I mean, because Epstein's Island is gone, he needs a new one to hang out with Bill Clinton, so... Oh, I told you, it's my last year.

What are you gonna do about

it?

Yeah, yeah, well, that's it for you.

I told Ricky Gervais.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

Yeah, Ricky Gervais did similar things.

Yeah, I think it was the Oscars, and he was just like, what?

I don't care.

Yeah, he let it rip, yeah.

Trevor Noah has done it for like six years, I think.

I think he has for a long period of time.

But this was his last year.

Yeah.

Maybe he's tired of the music too.

Maybe.

But

anyway, that's the joke.

And again, Trump is threatening to sue him.

Really?

Yes.

Why?

What's the basis of the law?

False and defamatory language.

I don't know that anybody tell him he's a public figure and he's open for this kind of stuff and he can't sue anybody.

Well, but he can try.

Well,

I don't know.

He's got a team of lawyers.

They might as well push out some more paper and send it to court.

That's just weird stuff.

Yeah, good luck with that lawsuit.

All

right.

Now, something that it really kind of bothers me a lot is the FCC.

It is kind of, it's sitting there.

It's kind of calling balls and strikes.

It's not.

taking a proactive approach to what's on the broadcast airwaves, and we're talking about airwaves.

The old media, right?

The three networks and all of radio.

All the broadcasters.

Yeah, all the broadcasters, right.

So anyway, Brendan Carr has taken a proactive approach pushing conservativism, and this is recording a little while back.

when Senator Andy Kim had talked to Brendan Carr about who his allegiance is to the Constitution or to Trump.

Let's listen.

Is President Trump your boss?

President Trump has designated me as chairman of the FCC.

I think it comes as no surprise that I'm aligned with President Trump on policy.

I think that's why he designated me as chairman.

But ultimately, you consider him your boss?

Ultimately, the...

Well, president of Desigamea is chairman.

I can be fired by the president.

The

president

is your boss.

Of course

he is.

Look, the decisions of the commission are going to be based on a

vote.

You

swore an oath when you came into your job, right?

Does the oath have the word president in it?

Senator, again, I'm not tracking this line.

What I'm saying is every decision you

made.

Do you remember

the oath that you took?

Yeah.

You swore

an oath to protect what?

So every single

decision.

What is it

that you're protecting in this job?

We're based on the

Constitution of the United States.

Would it be appropriate for the president or senior administration officials to give you direction to pressure media companies?

I'm not going to get into hypotheticals.

What I can tell

you is that the easy answer is

no.

Trump is not your boss.

The American people are your boss.

I do not trust you that you can make these decisions with the independent mind that is needed.

And with that, I'll yield back.

There

you go.

Wow.

OK.

Pretty much.

My drop my drop Well, I found this out of the Hollywood reporter car threatened We'll talk about this again Brenda car.

Yeah, Brenda car threatened an equal time rule change.

Yes.

Yeah, I brought that

on which

could force daytime talk shows like the view and late night talk shows like the tonight show or Colbert to think carefully before inviting on candidates

for political office.

Now, if you do something like that, it is pretty much a threat, right?

That's what he's doing.

Talk shows have qualified for an exemption as a bona fide news interview.

They have an exception.

They can have these guests on, but they don't have to have equal time in regards to these guests.

They get an exemption.

He is repealing the exemption.

That's what he's proposing.

That's what

he wants to do.

Okay.

And by, by the way, just coincidentally, the 24-7 Trump networks, all of them are on cable.

Fox News, Newsmax, One America, new, or now, I don't know, Real America's voice.

They're all on cable, not on the air.

None of them are required to have equal time.

Now, how odd is that?

Because they were cable.

What a

coincidence.

Right.

Fox News.

I mean, that's, you know,

it's on cable.

Yeah.

Now, Democratic FCC commissioner, Anna Gomez, asked whether the same rules would apply to talk radio shows, which tend to show.

More conservatives and skew more conservative.

Mm-hmm, right,

right

again They're over the air and they apply to the FCC and they are Part of the FCC rule and regulation universe.

Mm-hmm.

They are controlled by it.

All right

So

anyway car said this there wasn't a relevant precedent that we saw that was being Misconstrued on the radio side of all of this

Now, that's, that's what I think most people would call a word salad.

Doesn't really mean anything at all.

We look, we look, but you know, radio's doing a pretty damn good job, you know.

Yeah, that's right.

And Commissioner Anna Gomez reiterated that the rule change will necessarily have to apply to all talk radio as well.

Because

they are.

over the air broadcasters.

And once you change the rule on one side, it has to go to the other side.

She wrote

this.

By sides, you mean TV and radio.

TV and

radio, yes.

And this is what she wrote.

We must keep in mind that the primary motivation for this action was to lend a hand to the political operation of this administration, not to help consumers.

And I also want to note that what the administration is not focusing on,

that these rules apply to all broadcasters, television and radio, and they must be applied evenly to the administration's friends and critics alike.

Again,

another mic drop.

We have two this half hour.

Okay, so

we're keeping

track.

Okay, so is this in effect immediately or is this something they're just kicking around the table here?

This

is a threat.

This is a threat.

Okay.

So they're, they're just floating.

This is a trial

balloon.

The commissioners that all have to vote on this.

Of course.

Okay.

And right now there is a, is a majority of conservatives by one, but they have to vote on this.

They have not done it.

Carr came out with this, just the simple threat.

So everybody's just kind of aware that they got to kind of

walk

lightly in the area, and that's it.

So he doesn't really have to do anything.

He doesn't have to go out there on a limb.

You can just threaten people left and right, and everybody will live under the threat of equal time.

It's

kind of

a chilling effect.

Oh yeah, it's a chilling effect, Gordon.

Let's

go.

Let's go to the phones good one Jack from Merrimack is on the line eight five five seven five two four eight four two Jack.

Good afternoon

Yeah Again is more of an attempt to rewrite history Which when when the communists and North Koreans and Chinese did it?

They call it reeducation.

That's what it

what the attempt is.

But I don't really have a problem with equal times for conservatives on talk shows.

And

I don't think you guys do either.

I think you've invited probably plenty of them.

And they've just decided

there's

no way to answer the questions that you'd have.

So they don't come on.

And that would be my hope is if you get

something like Jimmy Kimmel, and he has to have a conservative person on.

I'd hope that people like that would give him the third degree and really say things like, you know, what you just said is a lie.

It is not a

fact.

And if more of the legitimate, quote, unquote, news sources had done that,

I don't know if we'd be in the situation we're at, but that's an entirely different topic.

Anyway, thank you

guys.

Well, Jack, that's a really, really good point because it works the other way around.

Right.

If they can go on these talk shows and they know they can, will they go on

those talk shows?

Will

they do it?

Will they be open to the Kimmels and the Colbert questions?

Right?

And if they refuse to go, or if they, you know, they just don't go, then what?

I mean, is it, you can't have on another, you know, somebody from the other side again?

I mean, how do

you govern this

thing?

I would think

that now the media outlets have to document them reaching out with like certified mail to every candidate.

Apparently.

So that they can say, we told them they could come on.

Yeah, we asked them, we invited them, they couldn't do it.

So all it

does is it creates a paper trail just to cover their asses.

And then obviously the conservatives will never appear on any show that leans liberal whatsoever because they'll be grilled.

They won't be

able to do it.

They can't handle it.

They can't take the questioning.

We invite people on this program all the time and we do want to ask those questions but a lot of times the conservatives

don't feel comfortable answering the questions because the public will obviously not agree with what they

have to say.

And does it make a difference whether the person, is this mainly for political candidates?

I mean, did they have, it's just political candidates.

They have to be running for something in order for this thing to kick in.

Okay.

We're coming back with more of your calls and texts, 855-752-4842.

It's John Agordi.

Stay

Kathryn Lake

with us.

There's John and Gordy and we're taking your calls today.

We're Taking a look at some of the Hot news that came across the weekend.

We'll be getting to a few big stories here We'll also be getting to a little Saturday night live bit that I thought was just extraordinary

Yeah, it's kind of a running gag.

No, no not that

one not that one about

the Super Bowl and you know

a couple rekindling their old relationship.

That was really good.

I

didn't

think I'd enjoy that bit, but it was good.

All

right.

Well, let's go to the phones.

Let's go to the phones.

Joanne is online from Madison.

Good afternoon, Joanne.

What's on your mind?

Great show.

Just a quick comment.

We've been calling those 6 million files, the Epstein files.

We should really call them the Trump Epstein files.

Because he wants to rename everything after himself,

you know,

like

the

Kennedy Center, the Trump Kennedy Center.

We can be calling his files the Trump Epstein files with an emphasis on Trump because he's been in so many of them.

That's a great idea.

That is beautiful.

I will try to remember that from now on.

Yes.

Wow.

Yeah.

And there's still like three million more files.

It's unbelievable that they haven't.

Release and here's what could

possibly be in those.

Here's the bad thing about the files being released all these files coming out and all these pictures, right?

I don't know what's real and what isn't as far as pictures are concerned, you know You see the comments.

Oh my gosh.

This is outrageous Look for girls surrounding him on an airplane and I'm thinking is it real?

I don't

know anymore, right?

He's kind of getting off

a little bit hard to know the context of them.

Yeah,

right

Joanne Joanne

Well,

yep,

okay,

but anyway, yeah,

thanks for that call.

I agree.

It should be the Trump up the Trump Epstein files.

Yeah Yeah, you know, we know I mean there's enough stuff.

It's unbelievable.

Yeah, you know all the all the different stuff that's in those files But you know when you think about what they haven't released is Is it even worse can get much worse than as far as the content?

I don't even

I don't think I have a number of

times that he was mentioned in this.

It's more than a thousand times.

It's like 1500.

Yeah, I think it's about 1500

times mentioned in the files.

So apparently he had nothing to do with that.

Apparently.

Don't don't believe the pictures and the videos that you've seen of them hanging out and having a good time at parties or the flight logs where he's mentioned on there like 70 plus times.

I mean, he had

four young girls behind him on an airplane.

And I thought, is this real or not?

Now, all of these.

pictures have been released, a lot of them, and you don't know which ones are fake, deep fakes.

But anyway, this is kind of fun.

I mean, we know he's mad, he's insane, and he's in charge, and he's delusional too.

Esquire's Michael Wolfe supposedly has conspired with Epstein to harm Trump somehow.

I am not kidding you, this is what he is alleging.

You can tell this guy isn't well, right?

Let's listen to the content.

It looked like this guy,

Wolf, was a writer, was conspiring with Epstein to do harm to me.

And I didn't see it myself.

And I was told by some very important people that not only does it absolve me, it's the opposite of what people were hoping, you know, the radical left.

That Wolf, who's a very great writer,

was

conspiring with Jeffrey Epstein to hurt me.

politically or otherwise.

And that came through loud and clear.

So we'll probably sue Wolf.

Oh, okay.

And maybe the M.C.

in the state, I guess, I don't know, but we're going to certainly sue Wolf.

We're going to sue everyone.

You may, I guess so, because he was conspiring with Wolf to do harm to me politically.

Wow.

It seems like, you know, he feels like he's the center of the universe and that everybody's talking about him, but not just talking about him.

They want to get even with him.

They're conspiring against him.

There is something wrong with this man.

All right?

As far as conspiring against him to harm him, I think Obi-Wan Kenobi said it the best in Revenge of the Sith.

You have done that yourself.

Yes, you have.

Great,

great point.

Great clip.

I think we've got time to take a call here.

And let's take mine.

And Mark is on the line from Perry to Sack.

Hey, Mark,

go ahead.

It just is deeply disturbing that there's a lot of these people that would actually still support Trump even if it was proven all those allegations against him were true.

I think someone would even forgive him murdering these little girls, I think, because he's

their lord and lord and chief and that uh... you know the supreme court would probably re-declared right designors as uh... the right of the lord that uh... if you're rich and powerful you should have to have these rights to you know commit this kind of activity i mean it is just deeply disturbing that uh... and the way they're releasing these things they're not protecting the victims here i mean that

the

incompetence of

Information they released they did not protect the victims.

They've been protecting all the rich and powerful and the rich and powerful's men They should be hung out to dry.

I

mean

that if they're doing this stuff hang them out to dry.

I mean it is just Disgusting that these guys get away with this stuff because they've been getting away with this stuff for decades.

Yeah, at least 20 years or so.

I mean or longer, right?

I mean, this has been going on for a long time.

That's true.

And a lot of these women as victims came out and said that they are just protecting the wealthy and the elite.

Yes.

And not them.

They

were

promised to be protected and they aren't being protected at all.

All

right.

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