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I took them off momentarily here because... Give them a rest.
I'm going blind.
They're prescription and I think they work, but I'm not quite sure I can wear them all day.
Well, you have to break them in a little bit.
That's what I'm thinking, too.
So I'm taking a little rest here, sabbatical.
Fantasy stuff.
Yeah fantasy stuff and it was Martin Luther King Jr's speech.
And it placates, it allows the Red Hats, the Magus out there to stay energized, you know, to keep them going.
keep them actually distracted.
So they'll listen to that.
They won't pay attention to the actual news or what's going on or how the rest of the world is moving on, moving on beyond the US at this point.
And I don't know if we're going to be able to stop that just because all of a sudden the orange one has said we're not going to invade Greenland.
I don't know if that's going to change anything at all.
And he's got a plan, but no one knows what it is.
And
Hey, good afternoon guys.
Yes, that is just nuts.
And the first one, the first thing they talked about was criminal.
The criminal is the one
That sits at the Oval Office on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, right?
I I don't understand the where I'm lost at is just the pure hatred Of this party that claims to be a read all about religion and Christianity But they seem to be very faithful.
They hate people of color They hate liberal women They hate gay people
They hate trans people.
How many trans athletes are there really in girls' sports?
If they have to count it up, or if they can find these athletes, how many of them are really out there?
I'm lost at the just pure hatred.
I wish these people could step out of their bodies for a week, erase their memories, and let them see
the two different parties, and see who's the party that acts like they're just no home training, no nothing.
I mean, you have a party that cares about people that's saying, wait, you shouldn't be breaking people's car windows and dragging them out.
You shouldn't be breaking down people's doors to drag out a man who is an American citizen who they thought was a pedophile, but they were at the wrong house.
They were at the wrong house when they and then you walk them out in the cold weather in shorts Yeah, and no shirt in a rope.
How would you feel if that was your your granddad or your dad or your uncle?
That they did that too.
I don't understand the pure hatred of this party Yeah, and that's what they're all about hate.
I I've never seen them Try to say hey, we shall work together on anything and we're hated around the world
CJ and anybody else thinks that we're the almighty, powerful people around the world hate the United States.
And when this man is dead and gone, I don't know if they will change their sentiment at how they feel about us because they're looking at it that we allow this man to run amok.
Not only in the United States, but around the world.
Well the entire world turned against him and I've got a clip that I'll be playing from world leaders including the Canadian Prime Minister himself really laying it on the line so we'll be getting to that in just a few moments but you're right and you know that Martin Luther King Jr.
speech that was used with AI to create
their agenda essentially is just a reinforcement of their agenda.
This is why they really can't speak about anything new that crops up in the news or something that we want to talk about or new topic that we need to at least address with this administration because they're still listening to that Martin Luther King Jr.
speech that AI created and they think that is the only agenda, the exclusive agenda in this country which it is not.
Charles, thanks for
today?
A bit of levity to start.
I mean, I can imagine a ZZ top parody song for your AI glasses there.
Sun glasses, dog.
I'll take a, take a swat at that tonight.
The only heartening thing about the whole Minneapolis thing where they called the guy out in his robe.
that what I heard this morning is apparently his neighbors were working to repair his door that I said had battered down.
It is just a, you know, that kind of, you know, by a tug at my heart strings to hear something like that, people are actually his neighbor, I actually care about this man.
And it says something about the people in Minneapolis, you know, that they want to step up like that.
But I mean, it is just disgusting that they got the wrong house and they couldn't even
Father did to let the guy actually get dressed.
I mean make sure you know Texas ID and make sure they had the right house No, they won't have their little their little their little show that they want to put on show how big and tough they are.
I mean it is just It and now we got Kyle written house trying to profit off of this I mean he's talking what he wants to go to Minneapolis and show up with a with a mini you know mini Mac or whatever military weapon and and that little function
It's just these guys are profiting off of death.
I mean the guy that murdered Renee Renee good is going to be a millionaire when this is all done and Probably good pulling gig on Fox News or be a right wing influencer now the rest of his Damned life.
I mean it is just disgusting that these people are able to profit off at death Yeah, and we just embraces them and that it is just I put the number of you know, they
Love it throws out the figure older and illegals killed 4,000 Americans I looked it up her in 20 and 2025 apparently there was you could document 15 cases of an undocumented person Allegedly to have killed an American.
Yeah, and why they're able to inflate those figures like that and get away with it.
I mean she just Blah you know plows on through and it doesn't matter to him because she jailed for these
False facts all this you know right and left in and that Yeah, by the time you look at up he's already moved on to some other you know some other fresh lie
Right they bring up so many topics all at once that it's hard to keep up with at least correcting some of the things that they do say and Every once in a while it happens here on this program too.
We're talking to somebody that bring up something We can't correct them because they moved on to the next topic or at least the topic that we were talking about Yeah, it's it's tough stuff and you know these people they do want
this one particular agenda and they want to drive it into the ground and they aren't ever.
And I think this is part of what we're seeing from the entire administration.
It's one of the three things that Trump believes in most and that is to never, what does it never deny?
Always deny.
Always deny.
And we'll have to
Hey guys Yeah, it's really quite insane Why would anyone in Europe or Denmark?
Want to come be part of this mess called America that can't can't even give it people jobs or health care We are technically a failed state and a third world country
And this is why they want to get rid of Europe, because it's an example of a democracy that we were supposed to be, but never have been yet.
One that works, one that provides for the people, one where the people actually can vote.
And I don't know if you guys agree, but I think their parliamentary system might be a little better than ours, because these parties are both corrupt.
But yeah, it is quite amazing and a lot of these maga they're so full of Kool-Aid.
They can't it's like the cave, right?
They can't see reality for what it is because it would shatter their egos They'll never accept they're wrong until the camps.
I've already killed people.
We've already had World War three America's been defeated and destroyed and then they might come around but not until then I read
Hi guys.
I do love the thing about the glasses.
I laughed so hard yesterday.
I didn't get a chance to come in and then today too.
I think that's so great.
Well, anyway, what I want to quick say is we got to vote this guy out and we can't give up because they're a pathetic bunch of losers.
practice abusive behavior and it kind of gives them a little joy, maybe makes them feel like big men or big women.
And the thing of it is is that this is really abusive to kids.
I just learned from somebody that I think it happened today, you know, where kids, grade school kids, you know, they were in school and they went on a lockdown near Roseville or, you know, I didn't, somebody had told me that they had just heard of somebody's kid that was there.
school official had called police, you know, to get the ICE agents off the school grounds.
Now, you know, we had enough problems with, you know, gun shooting in schools, you know, and all the BS, these people say they love children, you know, enforcing women to have children.
I mean, these people are lunatic.
And the sooner we get that in our heads, sooner we can fight back and fire them all.
Well, it helps me
Thank you,
right.
Thank
And I know some Democrats definitely want to bring a lot of the administration before them and hold them accountable.
It's not getting even.
It's, I guess, upholding the law.
or the Constitution in that case.
It's up in the features.
It should be at the top of the list there near the top.
It's called feature.
Trump's three things to live by.
I found an article about it.
Right.
Number one, never apologize or admit wrongdoing ever.
Number two, always counterattack and always with greater force than you received.
That's what they're doing by denying what's going on in Minneapolis.
Always do that.
Number three, use the legal system as a weapon and not a recourse for justice.
That's
That's number four.
That's obvious.
Sure.
Tear into the reporters.
Number five, use fear as both a shield and a sword.
And number six, build a fortress of loyalty around yourself.
Wow.
So he's pretty much accomplished all of those things.
That's not just three.
That's how many?
Five?
Six.
Wow.
Six things from Roy Cohn to Donald Trump.
All right.
Okay, brief time out.
We're back with more after this with John and Gordy.
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the usual
We got a
And I think that's why I had to take the other glasses off because my eyes are straining.
I mean, it's a close resemblance to my prescription.
Yeah, let me just put it that way.
Let's go to the phones right now.
We'll talk to Mike up in Muscaday.
Hey, Mike.
Hi, gentlemen.
I appreciate the dialogue here and the chance to speak to her.
You know, one thing that concerns me, I just, just Ilan Omar from Minnesota
her husband, not her brother this time, her real husband.
She was married to her brother to get over here.
But
Besides that how did she I
true, but I do but you know you believe whatever you want sure matter to me.
Yes, but How does she get to be like a wealth of 30 60 million dollars within a two-year time frame?
You know, I mean, can you answer these questions and maybe some of your knowledgeable liberal
Well, why
It now is loaded up with AI and it'll give you a brief summary in the beginning and you could also check out some of the articles that are included with your search and it'll tell you exactly what you need to know in regards to that.
Why is she worth so much more now than before she became a representative?
Like I'm supposed to believe
that Yeah, well now Mike you gotta believe you gotta believe something I mean if you believe what you read on right wing media Why wouldn't you start to believe what's on the left wing media which really isn't left wing at all?
It's just media we used to call it just media now Now it's been named left wing or woke media, but it's not it's just media and if you just
check it
You can look at different articles.
You can look at the ones that you favor, the ones that agree with your concept of what happened to her and how she became so wealthy.
Or you can look at other articles that explain why, and step by step, the process of how she became wealthy.
I mean, it's simple.
It's so simple.
Just look at Google, Mike.
You know?
You know what's this called?
Common sense and that doesn't seem to be so common anymore.
you're right.
a common sense doing a quick check here Google actually attributes her wealth her You know accelerated wealth to her husband's business ventures Rose Lake capital LLC a venture capital firm valued between five and 25 million They were into that also
some other partnership assets that he had.
So I'm not sure it was, you know, them together or how long they've been together, but
when you're 79 years old Yeah, it's not like you want to start, you know having a lot of possessions You know right you can't take it with you as they always say why do you want more?
You know, you really can't take it with you.
Why do you have to grasp and and take everything in sight?
What is the point of that?
more interested in the legacy.
Well, legacy.
Yes.
Yeah.
Definitely that.
Cause he wants his name on everything.
He wants statues built to himself.
He wants to be on Mount Rushmore.
I mean, there's a lot of things that he wants, but it's also power.
It's just a power grab, you know, the wealthier you are and the more powerful on the world stage you become.
Well, that's why I don't feel wealthy.
I don't have power.
Troy, what do you got
30 seconds might from us today your racist piece of garbage to quote your orange Jesus
come up with that.
I'll stay FCC compliant, but do you come up with that?
She's married to her brother garbage.
yeah, you know that racist trope.
Yeah
radio show that I have to be nice to people on yeah, you know Well, we
and then and I'm not ripping on you guys Yeah, you got to do what you got to do, but right, you know That's just oh now racism and there's no no point in that and there's no place for that
you know just proven
billions of times.
And things actually being made to last.
Yes, made to last.
And being made to be able to be repaired.
Yes.
Right.
You know, and we've kind of lost that and we've kind of become a subscriber culture.
Yeah.
And we're very far away from, from most people really being able to be part of an ownership society where they can experience the American dream.
And yeah.
So I wrote a
about all that.
And, you know, by way of introduction to the sub-stack column, I got paid a nice compliment recently by a fellow sub-stacker who said my sub-stack was eclectic and she said, you never know what you're going to get.
And so I thought maybe I should rename the sub-stack box of chocolates.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, I just went out and I got a new 4k blu-ray player It's a Sony and it's as bad as the Sony blu-ray player.
I bought maybe 10 or 15 years ago Didn't improve it did not improve It's really odd because Sony has control over the blu-ray label or the registration
on
and they didn't promote it very much.
They charge an awful lot to use that symbol and that's why there aren't a lot of Blu-ray players or Blu-ray discs out there because Sony's pretty tight on that and it costs an awful lot.
They're not giving anybody a break.
But at the same time, I'm trying to get a Blu-ray player.
We are in this 21st century.
from what I remember, and I can't even get a 4K Blu-ray player that plays Blu-rays all the way through without freezing up or something like that.
A PlayStation 4 or 5.
Those are the best Blu-ray players.
Uh, it's just you have to pay a lot because they're also a game console.
So you're going to have to pay like 500 bucks for a PS5 if you want a decent Blu-ray player.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it is probably a new design using newer chips, whatever it is, please stop freezing at the end of my movies.
You know, it's driving me crazy.
And it's like, uh, almost at the end and it freezes up and it skips chap.
and I'm just, you know, I've had it.
So anyway, yeah.
It's one of those things where I like to own what I enjoy.
Right.
And that's what I was getting at here.
Right.
Is I like to own it.
And I don't want to be dependent on some service saying now you can watch it, now
you
And, you know, that's why I call it the new company store.
because they do want to own us.
They don't want us to own anything.
They just want us to keep paying subscription fees.
They want us to have to keep paying them to see any content.
They don't want us to own something and actually make it ours.
They don't think of us as customers anymore.
They just see us as consumers.
And that's a, I think that's a fundamental difference that has happened with American business is American businesses used to have relationships with their customers.
And even think about customer service now.
They've, they're killing off customer service by turning it over all these AI bots.
And I don't know a single person who does not end up absolutely exasperated dealing with one of these bots.
And they now have the bots trained to say, I know that this is frustrating, but which of the following options would you like to choose?
It's crazy.
And it's because they no longer want us to be customers and they certainly don't want us to own anything.
And that's really what the...
So
And most of us would like to actually own a movie or own an oven that actually is ours.
you know, he can't resist his impulses because he wants to own Greenland.
Which is a little bigger than the ovens at home.
A little bigger than the oven.
It's certainly possible, but it'll require a real big shift in our culture, not just a shift in our politics or our economics, but it'll have to require a shift in our culture, which will then be eventually reflected in our politics, and that could end up moving the economy.
These economic actors that want us to simply be a subscriber culture and they want us to forever pay them the fees and they want to be forever in ownership and they don't want us to ever own anything, they'll keep right on doing it until they're told they can't.
And of course, that's when major economic change always comes about is when people
decide, look, we're citizens, we're not subjects, we're customers, we're not your faithful subscribers.
When they insist on some change, then there's change.
But that requires cultural shift.
Just to make
Yeah, and
just
That's right.
We're going to keep collecting your money, but we're not going to correct any problems.
Right.
And they're putting up basically this firewall.
to let these machines seal them off from any customer accountability.
Right.
And so if, hey, if speaking gibberish to one of those things gets you human being on the line, I love the creativity.
I mean, you know, and I'm sure, you know, we can try to find mom and pop stores that still exist for some of the things that you can get.
You know, we all try to encourage that.
We don't want to lose that part of America.
But boy, that's really tough in the smaller rural areas to find little businesses that can still exist and get by and, you know, make ends meet.
I
and
You just give
You couldn't find it or it cost too much or you had to order it through them.
Instead of, you know, you having it sent directly to you, I felt like I could take control and we feel like we have some control.
I think that's the other part of this equation is we think we can do that.
We can buy it anytime we want.
We can find anything we want.
We can own it all, but we're not owning anything.
Right.
Yeah.
So anyway, that's my evolution.
Sadly,
You know, speaking of all this corporate ownership and, you know, it seems like the only place you can go for a lot of things is big box stores or, you know, or ordered online or Amazon.
What's your take on consumers boycotting different corporations, depending on who they're supporting politically or who they're helping politically?
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Well, their special guest, Mike McCabe from Substack, and we're talking about owning things or being owned.
And way back when, in the olden days, men owned everything and women did not own anything unless they were allowed to by their husbands.
What a strange time that must have been.
How long
and get their own credit card.
Without a spousal co-signer.
Wow.
So when people talk about the good old days, let's go back to the 1950s or let's go back to the 1920s or let's go back to the 1890s.
Half of the population was told you can't have a bank account or
or a credit card unless you have a male co-signer.
Unless your husband is
I don't want to get into that.
Here's the thing.
I remember there was a discussion just recently that I heard where a conservative was arguing that
Women should have babies they shouldn't go out into the workplace and then another person chimed in and said yeah, but that's like a $14,000 tax on them because you're taking $14,000 in earnings or whatever it is
every year from that woman who has a baby you're actually punishing them you're penalizing them instead of allowing them to do whatever they want to do you know there's almost a way that the right wing wants to
make that kind of a law, a thing now where you actually have to get permission or you can't go out and work or they're making it more difficult to go out and work now.
And then giving it a dollar figure, which $14,000, I don't know where they came up with that.
But anyway, it's like a tax and then you make it sound bad because it's like a tax and they take all this money away from people.
So what is your feeling on, you know, giving any kind of
Chance that this society will actually maybe reject some of these ideas at this point because I don't know It seems like the movement is going in the other direction They want to go back to
Yes, but I don't think that push is a movement.
Okay.
There are powerful people Who are pushing to to get us to go back?
Yeah
to what was.
But I think the American people have moved on.
I think so too.
I think we've moved on.
The American people don't want women to be owned.
They don't want women to be regarded as chattel, which is what women originally were under the law.
They were the property of their husbands.
They were chattel.
And people don't
You want to go back and certainly half of the population doesn't want to go back to to those kind of days So there there are some very powerful people who want to push our society back in that direction But I think the movement the the social movement is is still Marching forward It's facing some powerful headwinds, you know, there's there's some powerful forces trying to resist
that forward movement.
But I think people want, you know,
They do.
And we're getting a few texts here from CJ who's trying to make an argument here.
Your party can't define a woman and believes men can have babies.
And then he asks, what is a woman?
See, this is how they actually bring this topic up and they demean women.
by making them into, again, chattel.
If there's one argument where they don't have any ground to stand on, then they just try to change the ground on which everybody has to stand, and they hope that maybe that'll work better for them.
But, you know, it's just always the distraction.
It's always the changing of subjects.
It's always...
Yes, but what about this?
It's like, you know, it's kind of comical.
from a logical
One of the things I wrote about in my article was that the very first legislation I ever worked on
I was fresh out of college and I was working as a state assembly.
I have that in an article, yes.
Yeah, it was marital property reform.
And one of the most amazing Wisconsin lawmakers ever, one of the most prolific Wisconsin lawmakers ever was a woman named Mary Lou Muntz.
Yes.
And she authored that legislation.
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