MLK’s Message Is More Relevant Than Ever (Hour 2)

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MLK’s Message Is More Relevant Than Ever (Hour 2)

John & Gordy · Mon Jan 19, 2026

Kathryn Lake

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It's John and Gordon in the afternoon and kind of mesmerized by the electronic.

I was ready to doze off

there.

We were on the air

there for a minute.

We were both ready to go to sleep right here.

And now...

But here we are, you know.

Yep.

Happy Monday afternoon.

John Peterson, Gordon Young.

And we were watching the TV screen and Europe is up in arms, you know, a Greenland.

But they are forming now what is called a trade bazooka.

Whatever that means.

Whatever that means.

We can't hear it and we really can't keep up with the closed caption.

But I'm telling you a trade bazooka is going to.

Hit the fan.

People

are going to be

talking about the trade bazooka for a long time and you, you came up with the idea, maybe we could call our band, you know, you or me when we get up on stage, the trade bazooka.

I think it's a great band.

Yeah.

Trade bazooka.

Yeah.

Come to

the

Coliseum Saturday night.

See trade bazooka now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It ties in with my Johnny Grenade persona that I used to have fun with on

April Fool's Day.

Phone lines are back open.

If you want to get in, now's a good time.

855-752-4842.

We've had a couple of people

hanging on the line here.

We had a long time

here.

Quite a long time.

Mark.

Is Mark next or Dale?

Yeah, thanks guys.

Hey

guys, yeah, you mentioned the Puppet thing.

I can't help but remember the old Captain Crew gag where Bunny Ravid and Mr. Moose, I think it was Bunny Ravid would drop the ping pong balls.

Yes.

Captain Kangaroo and the secret word came through or whatever.

You guys can remember that.

How many

of these fools actually think that Trump's tariffs are actually, we are the ones that would pay any tariffs on the products.

Exactly.

These people are just, you know, it's American consumer that is paying the price for the tariffs right now and people just don't seem to.

There's too many people on

But in the political spectrum, do not seem to understand, we are the ones paying those tariffs.

That's an extra tax.

Probably, you know, unconstitutionally, because Trump is really, you know, that if you strip constitutionalists on the Supreme Court should say, Constitution says it's Congress that's supposed to be setting the tariffs.

That's what the Constitution says.

It doesn't matter that they think Trump is a blasted king.

And the stuff that is going on in Minneapolis, I mean, I have a cousin that sent me some stories.

in her little circle that it is horrifying.

She knows that this kind of stuff has happened

to her.

You mentioned that she is afraid to go out.

Yeah, well, she's nervous about going out and taking her dog

to

the vet chest and driving 50 blocks.

She shouldn't have to be worried about that.

She's absolutely terrified because she's white and she's 50 something and that it is just

But for this kid that got dropped off

at

a Walmart after being kidnapped from Target, what the hell is CJ and his co-thinkers think about something like that?

What do they think?

Do they think there's any excuse at all for that?

There's just absolutely no excuse at all.

For them to be dropping this kid on the pavement and be whooping on him because they didn't like it.

Every single one of those ICE agents should be up on discipline charges.

Trump would probably like to hang a medal on their damn chest.

Yeah.

Yeah, they beat the kid up.

He was bloodied.

Well, you like to hang a medal on their chest and then take the medal back and say he deserves it.

Right.

So, yeah, I know it's the same.

The thing that bothers me about all of this is that they don't really know how to follow up.

You know, if they are going to make an arrest, follow up on that.

You know, if you're going to have to drive the person back home, then follow up on that.

They don't seem to have follow up on anything.

It's just arrest people, take them in and then drop them off anywhere.

Or not take care of them at all.

Or if they are bloody, then not even taking care of their injury.

That is just basic law enforcement.

to help these people.

No matter what happens, no matter who they are, if they're protesting, so what?

If they're bleeding, help them out.

My God, this should be just part of the training.

This should be part of the standard procedure, and it isn't.

And that's driving me crazy.

It's

unbelievable.

Let's go back to the phones.

Dale is on the line from Wausau.

Good afternoon, Dale.

Yes, good afternoon.

Thank you for taking my call.

I wanted to say something about the agents.

Ice agents in Minneapolis and the Twin Cities.

I'm not going to call them people.

I'm not going to call them agents.

I'm going to call them things.

How many of these things have outstanding arrest warrants for themselves?

I'll bet that there is a bunch.

What they, what they really are is domestic terrorists and that's what they're doing.

And I'm sure that a bunch of them probably were associated with the insurrection on January 6th.

I wouldn't doubt it.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They were, they were the ones probably put in charge.

So yeah, we don't know.

We just don't know and they're not really screening these individuals.

We found that out recently too from a reporter.

So yeah, a lot of these things are just hanging out there.

We're not, we can't do anything about it.

We want to, but we can't investigate.

We can't find these things that reporters are doing a damn good job of trying to search this stuff out though.

I do have to admit that.

So Dale, thanks for that.

Thank you.

Thanks for that, Paul.

Okay.

I got a story here.

All right in relation to all of this a scathing ACLU lawsuit accuses federal immigration officials of carrying out a racial profiling campaign of massive scale and here's an example Mubasher Hussain.

He's 20 years old was out getting lunch

When confronted by ICE, he repeatedly informed the officers he was a U.S.

citizen, but agents refused to let him retrieve his driver's license or phone in the restaurant.

Hussein's supervisor showed agents a copy of his passport card, which the agents also ignored.

The agents then released Hussein out into the December cold and telling him to walk the seven miles from the field office back to where they detained him.

agents later pepper spray to send in the face after he recorded federal officers on a public sidewalk.

DHS denied using skin color, race, or ethnicity.

They use reasonable suspicion to make arrests.

My God, there are no indiscriminate stops being made.

I'll tell you.

No one's believing any of this stuff.

This is racial profiling like nobody's business.

And Justice Brett Kavanaugh actually allowed this to happen.

I mean, if you can pile up a couple of reasons why, you know, they're standing around and they look like a minority, that's enough, I guess, you know, two

things.

So it's pretty scary stuff and allowing this and just.

See, this is where they should have preparation again.

They should know that they got to drive this guy seven miles back to where they got him.

But instead, just to let him go, find your own way back.

I just can't get over this.

What

is

happening here?

My God.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, we kind of know

what's

happening.

It's un-American.

This is a dictatorship and this is what happens in a dictatorship.

All right.

855-752-4842.

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Oh,

and this is big business too.

I want to get this story out.

Okay.

Cue up 258 here.

MSNOW reports that this is an immigration policy.

It's a business model.

Ice keeps growing because corporations are raking in billions

of dollars

corporations making billions from president trump's mass deportation machine this man todd lions is the acting director of ice and at a private prison industry convention in phoenix he said something quite chilling quote we need to get better at treating this like a business like amazon prime but with human beings

my god

trump's one big beautiful bill turned ice into the single largest federal law enforcement agency in american history

with a budget bigger than the FBI, DEA, Secret Service, Marshall Service, and ATF combined.

And if you listen in to the earnings calls for some of the biggest players in the deportation industry, it's clear they view this time as a historic windfall.

This represents the largest amount of new business

that we have won in a single year in our company's history.

Amazing.

I've worked at Core Civic for 32 years and this is truly one of the most exciting periods in my career with the company.

Perhaps the most significant growth in our company's history over the next several years.

Today, nearly 90% of people in ice custody are held in facilities run by for-profit companies.

GEO Group has a transportation subsidiary that is the largest provider of ground and air transportation for ice.

And ProPublica reports, GEO Group is even fighting to pay its detainees as little as $1 for work they do inside the facilities, like cooking and cleaning.

When a federal judge ruled detainees were entitled to at least minimum wage, the multi-billion dollar company decided, well, it would just be easier then to end the program.

Wow.

So there you go.

Yeah, privately owned for-profit prisons are one of the things that make me the absolute angriest.

And this is even worse.

It is.

This is sickening.

This is disgusting.

How do these people sleep at night?

They don't.

Well.

Yeah, I guess they do.

I mean, this is very comfortable for them.

They

feel safer and more secure.

How

do you work as a lower level employee and you join up and find out, oh, the company I work for, their entire business model is based on detaining people regardless of their legal status or just holding them because you can.

Yes, yes.

And so DHS is the largest government department at a time when Elon and Trump

dissolved major administrative departments that ran this country.

To

save money, they have created the largest department ever in our history.

Occupying cities, beating businesses with billions of dollars for the connected industries that supported Trump in the first place.

It's all there.

And there is...

No need to bother with congressional oversight on any of this.

Oh, no, no.

I mean, wow.

We completely forgot about Congress, right?

Oh, yeah.

They used

to... Who are they?

They used to look into things

like,

no.

And it's so funny because these are the same guys running for governors in their states now, different positions.

Seriously, you've done nothing at all to protect the people that have elected you.

So this is pretty tragic stuff.

I also have have this This is what oh This is oh wait, okay.

Here it is Palantir remember Palantir

the

secret surveillance software that government has now is using for almost everything right in the US government well 404 media reporter Joseph Cox on ice

deploying Palantir powered surveillance tools that map out neighborhoods.

This is cut 261.

We

don't have time.

Oh, we don't.

No, we won't.

But

we can get to it.

OK.

We've got

a short break.

They've got the software that maps out these neighborhoods.

And that's why these agents are able to get into these neighborhoods and find their way to each and every house.

Yes.

And we'll get to the description of that in just a few moments.

Yep.

We'll take a short break.

We'll come back with more of your phone calls, 855-752-4842.

Much more ahead on John and Gordy.

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That trouble is Palantir.

This is John and Gordy.

And it's software the government decided to use.

It's all over the globe, by the way.

Other governments are using it as well.

And what they're doing is they're surveilling

the US population.

Yeah.

And in this case, neighborhoods.

So why don't we check out how they're helping ICE deploy their agents?

Ice is use of technology for months now.

And I kept hearing about this thing called elite.

I didn't know what it was at the time.

And we didn't really know what tech ice was using to actually find people.

But eventually, I got leaked this user guide, which explained the tool in detail.

I found this testimony.

from Oregon where an ICE official, you know, under sworn, sworn deposition explained exactly how they were using this tool to actually target neighborhoods.

And I also found this link to Palantir as well.

I think finally providing the clearest link yet.

between the tech the Palantir is making and how ICE is actually choosing where to raid and where to target.

And ICE officials said it's basically like a Google's map interface where you can look around the United States, you can zoom in on targets.

And I've seen the interface and he's exactly right.

That's exactly what it looks like.

You then click on an individual person and it brings up their name, a photo.

Most importantly for ICE, they're a parent address and also

a confidence score on how likely it is that person is actually there, such as 90 out of 100 or 75 out of 100.

It allows them to really zoom in on who they want to go pick up that day.

The tool can be used to sort of write up special operations is what ICE calls it.

And that can send target lists out to people on the ground, and then they can then pursue them as well as part of these much wider operations that we see across the United States.

I also want to point out this might seem ridiculous.

to some people that they're just watching our every move and can find anybody they want.

But it's actually very real.

And a lot of the cameras that do this, I'm not going to name it because I don't want to encourage this behavior.

A lot of the cameras that do it are super easily hacked, like ridiculously easily.

And just any average person could go and they may not be able to, you know, search up an individual, but they could very easily watch through those cameras.

Really?

No kidding.

I watched a few YouTube videos on how people did it, and it took them like no time at all to hack into these police cameras.

They're very not secure.

All right, well, it's sounding more and more like some kind of action movie where they

have

all

this

information that may not be true, but in this case, boy, we're there, folks.

from one battle to another.

That movie is the one that kind

of pulled.

That movie explained it all to me, and I just thought, wow, I

had

no idea they had this kind of capability, but they do, apparently.

We're finding out more day by day, we're finding out more and more.

I'm gonna get to, let's get to Mad King Don.

Okay.

Well, we had

another

cut here

that Aaron actually had.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

This is really big because this is the reporter that found out just how deeply they go into a person's background

to

become

an ICE agent.

Yes.

All right.

And this comes from an interview on Democracy Now.

All right.

They are promising on the spot hiring to where you could, in fact, walk out with your $50,000 bonus that day, possibly.

I went in.

I handed in my resume, which was I did a skills-based resume.

I'm a veteran.

I served two chairs in Afghanistan.

So on the surface, the resume looked pretty good.

Had a very brief interview, took all of six minutes.

They didn't ask very many questions.

And then I left, assuming I would never hear back, because I'm a very Google-able person.

I have an unusual name.

I'm the only Laura Judite on the internet.

And I make no secret of how I feel about ICE and Trump and all of it.

So I was not expecting several days later to receive a tentative offer.

I missed it in my inbox and it sunk to the bottom, which means that I never filled out the paperwork they requested.

I never accepted the tentative offer.

I never filled out my background check paperwork.

I never signed the affidavit saying I committed no domestic violence crimes, none of it.

A few weeks later, I got a message from LabCorp saying that ICE wanted me to do a drug test.

And I went ahead and did that.

I was pretty sure I wouldn't pass.

I'd partaken in legal cannabis six days before the test.

But why not waste some of their money, right?

And then nine days after that, I decided I wanted to, you know, I was curious, had they processed the drug test yet?

So I logged on to the ICE hiring portal and what I found was that not only did the drug test not seem to be relevant, I had been, I was listed as having joined ICE as of three days earlier.

I had listed that I had accepted the offer.

They had offered me a final position as a deportation officer.

My background check was listed as completed three days in the future for when I was looking at it.

So it seems like the answer to the question, who are they hiring, is they don't know.

I mean, it's very funny that they hired a lefty journalist with a profile on an anti-foot watch.

That's hilarious.

But what's not funny is

They didn't make me sign a domestic violence waiver.

So how many people with domestic violence convictions are running around with guns in our cities terrorizing people?

How many people who have been committed of sex crimes or crimes against children are in charge of detention centers where there's no oversight, where people won't be missed and won't be believed?

The agent was very keen on letting me know that I wouldn't be given a badge and a gun right away.

I wouldn't be out in the street messing people up.

I would probably have to push paperwork for about six months before I got there.

And when I expressed that that was fine with me, my analyst background,

Actually, the atmosphere changed.

He was like, no, listen, we want everyone on the street with guns eventually.

Well, there you go.

Wow.

So yeah, Warwick, you need instantly hired.

No background check necessary.

Wow.

You know, I've got two Gen C guys at home.

Maybe I could...

Find him a job.

I'm just getting this.

Sure, why don't you suggest they apply?

See what happens.

Yeah, that won't go well in my household.

No, I don't think that's a good idea,

really.

Get

out of here, get a job.

Well, I got a

job.

So

their standards are, you know, kind of loosey-goosey.

Loosey-goosey is right, I think,

yeah.

That's a technical term I

picked up.

Unbelievable.

Yeah, really.

That is outrage.

So we got a few more stories here to get to in regards to what's going on.

That's right.

In Minneapolis and TikTok regarding what ICE is doing.

So

all

that and more.

All

that and more and Midwest.

Farm reports next, and we're coming back with more of John and Gordy.

Stay right where you are.

Right there.

to tell a man to lift himself by his own bootstraps but it is a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps poor people are forced to pay more for less living in conditions day in and day out

where the whole area is constantly drained without being replenished.

It becomes a kind of domestic colony.

The tragedy is so awful.

These 40 million people are invisible.

Because America is so affluent, so rich.

Because our expressways carry us away from the ghetto, we don't see the poor.

This is America's opportunity to help bridge the gulf between the haves and the have-nots.

The question is whether America will do it.

There's nothing new about poverty.

What is new is that we now have the techniques and the resources to get rid of poverty.

But the real question is whether we have the will.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

But if a man doesn't have a job or an income, he has neither life, nor liberty, nor the possibility for the pursuit of happiness.

He merely exists.

And we have difficult days ahead in the struggle for justice and peace.

But I will not yield to a politic of despair.

I'm going to maintain hope.

It's Martin Luther King, Jr., one of his many speeches about hope, talking a little bit about the future, several

decades

ago.

on

this

MLK day.

Yeah.

So, do we have a music bed of something?

I

was

hoping we got a lead there.

You know, okay.

I mean, that was an inspiring speech and one of that was, you know, it's just, you look at where we are today.

And we're so far beyond any of this.

I mean, this is, this is targeted what?

What Trump is doing, Mad King Don is doing to the entire nation is turning on everyone, not just minorities.

I started off with immigration, of course, but now it's aimed at the American public.

And in fact, that's all we're talking about.

Now is the American public being locked up and pursued and beat up on and taken away.

It's just it has really morphed and it was so fast.

This changeover was just so quick that and now they're getting ready to deploy the army into Minnesota.

So that that's that's about to happen.

The Pentagon has been notified to be on standby and more FBI are also going into Minnesota.

I mean, this cuts across all kinds of party lines.

Yeah.

You know, really, it's affecting everybody, not only up there, but now everybody's on guard.

Where is it gonna happen next?

That's right,

you know.

You're like talking about Wisconsin.

I don't know, every time there's some big event in the country like, you know, what's going on in Minneapolis, Wisconsin likes to latch onto the issue, make it seem like it's gonna happen to them next, but

it could.

Just a few hours away

from us.

It could very well happen to them next.

They're actually trying to make this part of the governor's race.

And in fact, there's a new add out from Tom Tiffany who was constantly beating up on this whole issue thinking that we're gonna suddenly turn into Minnesota.

I don't know where he's coming from on this thing.

It's such a ridiculous thing just to even think about.

But here it is.

This is Tom Tiffany.

He thinks...

He thinks that fresh out of college or fresh out of high school students will want to work out the fields, you know picking crops and maybe even living on farms so they can milk the cows 24 seven okay every day that's what he's basically thinking here because Governor Evers is saying we've got to have our immigrants in this state in order to help us run our farming community right and the dairy state yes so we need all of them here

And he's trying to make it seem like, oh, well, you don't like American jobs.

So let's listen to this cut 265.

I

can probably stay in my sleep.

Our state will be destroyed economically if suddenly we decide anybody undocumented is going home or has to leave Wisconsin.

When asked if ICE is welcome into Wisconsin, Evers told us he doesn't see the need for the federal government to come here.

He says the state can handle immigration enforcement on its own.

That's

right.

You know, Tom Tiffany posted this as part of his ad.

He thinks this is bad.

Right.

Having these immigrants here in this state doing these jobs.

Now, I don't know why, but there seems to be a mega contingent out there that really has it out for immigrants.

And they've blown up a few incidents around the country.

Horrible incidents.

Americans getting killed by immigrants, illegal immigrants.

I understand that.

But it's not like that all over the place.

It's not.

It's not.

It's not a.

It's not spreading across the country.

It's not a huge it's not that kind of problem It may be a problem, but at that moment in that time in that state I get it

but it's not something you can blow up out of proportion through the right wing media fan.

And

everybody think that immigration is just destroying this country because it isn't.

We depend on them for a lot in this country.

And that is going away.

And I wonder how we're gonna actually survive all of this.

It's tough stuff.

Yeah, there are a lot of migrants documented and undocumented that have been doing a lot of work on farms in Wisconsin for

decades.

Absolutely.

And it just, yeah.

What are these farmers supposed to do?

Because they can't get that kind of labor just on the drop of a hat.

It, you know, it takes time.

Well, I mean, try to get a, try to find people to

work the farm.

I tried to get a high school kid, freshly out of their parents' home.

Yeah.

To live in a rundown old farmhouse.

that is being used for immigrant housing.

I don't think that's gonna work out so well.

Now I've interviewed a few of these individuals and it's really horrific.

It was very sad.

And I was just thinking, boy, I don't know, this is not the life.

Now, if we had the visas, the correct visas for these individuals,

that

would be so much better because the dairy industry has asked for this year-round.

that these workers, laborers could be here on and they haven't been able to get them.

Only agriculture has been able to get the year full year visas, oddly.

So yeah, Evers knows what he's talking about.

If Tiffany wants to get in there and get rid of everybody in this state, and you know he wants to turn this state into what's happening in Minneapolis, even though he's criticizing Minneapolis, boy, that's the worst place to be.

We don't want Wisconsin like that.

He truly is trying to make Wisconsin that.

That's right.

So it's sad and unfortunate.

And that guy is just...

Too much for me.

Well, Minnesota, just a stone's throw away from La Crosse, Eau Claire.

We have a lot of listeners up there.

I'm sure they are feeling the effects, even though they're on the other side

of the line.

I'm sure they must

be.

If any of them out there want to give us a call, 855-752-4842.

That's 855-75 Civic.

And I have this, you know, the bonus pay that these ICE agents are promised.

Yeah.

Well, there might be a little bit of something in the small print.

Let's go.

Oh, really?

Yeah, it cuts 264 here.

Let's listen to this.

Well, well,

well.

This

is

just your friendly reminder, Dia.

Anytime you are to put your John Hancock on a contract, you should read the fine print.

And I do believe today the Frozen Cruise about to find out right away that some of them did not read that fine print in that contract.

All they heard was a big old bonus was coming from the Orange Turd.

50 grand.

So they whipped out their tiny little hands and signed it right away.

And you want to know what the fine print just so happens to say about the bonuses coming their way?

Well, firstly, dear, they must stay there for the entire five years.

You can't quit.

You can't leave.

And if you do quit or leave before the five years, dear, well, you will have to pay back to the federal government any overtime and bonuses they

have

given to you.

It really isn't a bonus, dear.

It was more like a loan that you have to pay back.

Not only that, they don't give you the whole thing up front.

It is my understanding that you get 10 grand per year of those five years.

So let's say you're there for two years and then maybe the program gets shut down because it was found unlawful, you owe $20,000 back to the government.

Oh, really?

Wow.

Wow.

Such a deal.

Well, okay.

All right, let's get to this.

The Fox News hosts were kicking around the idea of protesters wearing QR codes.

I mean, not protesters, the ICE agents wearing QR codes on their outfits.

I think that would be a fantastic idea, actually.

They were also talking about

grinder, but I found that less appealing than actually being able to see their QR code on their outfits.

Let's listen to the cut.

Okay.

Tiktokers are encouraging users to expose agents on dating apps, apparently believing ICE is spending all their time scrolling through dating apps while rounding up dangerous illegals.

If you're on Grindr, if you're on Tinder and you come across a new influx of men who have traveled into your city for a very specific reason, screenshot it and send it to me.

You're going to out them?

Tommy, I'll make a deal with them and I'll do this on behalf of ICE because I think most ICE agents would be okay with this.

They'll wear a scannable barcode that tells you who they are.

If members

of

Congress will wear a scannable barcode that tells you everyone that donated to them, all the phone calls they took from special interest and donors this week that influenced how they vote and

spew garbage.

To your point

about the things coming full circle here.

This Richie Torres fella, he wants the QR codes to identify the agents and all their agency and all this thing about them.

These are the same people who don't want voter ID.

You shouldn't have to show your ID to vote.

It's not the

same.

Because that's racist and

oppressive.

But you think ICE agents should have wearable on

them.

Yes.

To get their identity and their agency.

I mean, these people, I know we keep saying it, but they're so stupid.

And they go on these left wing

legacy media channels and they think they're sounding so smart and so innovative.

And the fact that people vote for this is beyond me.

You know, I can't help but remember just about an hour and a half ago, we talked about this teacher artist nurses union and Tommy now both made the point.

We love teachers.

We love nurses.

We

don't like some of the things that these unions or school boards or hospitals do with those professions.

We've sat here and talked about how ICE agents apparently are bad for being homosexual and single.

They're bad

for not knowing how to do their job.

Like they attack the people themselves, the individuals.

They wanna know their name, their face, where they live.

They wanna go after the individual, not the job they're doing or the policy that Congress passed that they're instituting.

They wanna go after people.

Well, we'd like to have them unmasked.

Then we wouldn't have to do all of this.

You know who's

going after people?

I

think ice

agents

are doing

that masked.

So if we had them unmasked, we wouldn't need the QR codes.

Or like the guy said, bar codes.

Bar codes.

This is not the century you're living in.

Yeah, wow.

All right.

We're going to take a brief time out here.

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John Peterson, Gordy Young.

John and Gordy here.

Mm-hmm.

Talking about Minneapolis, St.

Paul.

and the troop deployments out in Minnesota, this is getting worse, and I don't know where this is going to end or how it's going to end.

Nobody knows.

I've always feared that somebody is going to get hurt or killed.

That's already started to happen, obviously, and even detainees are dying.

I think number seven passed away.

It was killed somehow in confinement.

I mean, this is just getting worse and worse, and I don't know what we can do.

I know that there was a warning out there in Minneapolis, and this was posted at a few places.

Actually, get your provisions and stay inside.

Don't go to work or school.

Stay inside your home.

Don't engage with icy enemy or military, very likely enemy.

Stay cool and calm.

We will get through this.

Those are kind of messages you wouldn't expect in this country,

right?

But there we are.

Wow.

We are there.

Bones are open 855-752-4842.

We have Wisco Paul on the line.

He's been waiting a while.

Paul, go ahead.

Good afternoon.

A little cold out here in Madison today, but at least it's not snowing.

But I just want to do a quick list of Trump problems.

Most of them he created himself.

And it's, it's a pretty long list.

And I'm probably going to miss some of these, but today is, it's the invasion of Greenland.

So he's got a NATO mess.

You got Iraq, Iran, Ukraine, Venezuela, um, the Supreme court rulings that are coming down on this stuff.

I don't judge rulings.

They got healthcare problems, then the big ones, tariffs, and he implemented more today in Europe.

And then finally, well, you got the Epstein files.

That's the big one.

And then ice in Minnesota.

I mean, I mean, I think I've missed some.

I mean, I even went back to, you know, all the stuff with Musk and everything else.

But this is an amazing list itself.

It is.

It is.

Yes.

I don't know.

The thing in Minnesota really got me scared because you can't put law enforcement on the street with no training Something bad's gonna happen one

way or

the other, but you got all this stuff.

I mean and I probably miss some And I don't know all these broke so what you know the GOP I think the public is gonna mentally turn on these people anyway before I get too carried away and mad

You guys have a great day.

Thanks for your

show.

All

right.

All right, Paul.

Appreciate it.

Yeah.

You know, when you think about all of all that's happened in the last year, it'll be a year here tomorrow.

Yeah, actually.

Man, is this and I'm reaching out to anybody who thought about voting for him or voted for the Trump administration.

How could you have voted for this?

Is

this is this what you expected?

Is this what you wanted?

Really?

Is it I mean you heard wisco paul's give you a list of that stuff That's include the shutdown or you know all these government offices being closed and

Are you secure better about this country?

Honestly really does that make you feel better?

Yeah, I think it's just beating up on immigrants.

I think that's all it is It's just at the heart of this whole movement

Um, I want to get to this, uh, what happens in ice detention.

This is a story, uh, broadcast, uh, an American citizen's experience at the Whipple building, the ice detention center in Minneapolis.

So let's listen to cut two 52 here.

All right.

Here, CVS reported that he did have internal bleeding in the torso, but he was released that same day.

So is he back at work?

Did you give

him the required three

days of

suspension?

Not in situations, but I'm not going to struggle with his medical records.

I know that you know.

I'm asking you about your

policies.

You know, when we get into the 260s, I started losing track of numbers.

You know, I'm, uh, that's not, that's not good to work for.

But anyway, let's get to something a little bit.

I think

I

found it.

Okay.

All right, let's listen.

When we got to the Whipple Federal Building, I immediately saw Hispanic and East African people lined up against a wall about to be put into holding cells.

I was escorted into the building and led to a room where they put me in ankle shackles.

I was then taken to a hallway with cells designated for U.S.

citizens and was held there for over eight hours.

While I was there, I was never given a phone call, despite asking at least four times.

My friend and I in adjacent cells had to beg for water and to go to the bathroom.

The bathrooms were in different holding cells, often with other people in them, with only a three-foot panel in front of the toilet to cover people's bottom halves.

While being escorted to the bathroom and to questioning, I saw holding cells with over a dozen people each and a large holding cell of between 40 to 50 people.

Most of the people there were Hispanic and East African, both women and men.

Some cells had no room for people to sit or lay down.

Pretty wild, huh?

Yeah.

Wow.

Unbelievable.

All right.

Well, do we have time for the special event?

Let me see here.

Trump is the tariff king.

Did you know that?

The tariff king.

Yeah.

And Europe is not liking it.

Let's listen to cut 253 here.

The tariff

king.

You had a problem with the drug companies, but you had a tougher problem in theory other than the fact that I understood how to deal with them.

I'm the tariff king and the tariff king has done a great job, but I hope we win the Supreme Court case because

if

we don't Be a shame for our country

Yeah.

And the Mad King is also collecting everybody's trophies.

Let's listen to cut 254 real quick here.

Yesterday you accepted Maria Machado's Nobel Prize

medal.

What do you intend to do with it?

And why would you want someone else's Nobel Prize?

Well, she offered it to me.

I thought

it was very nice.

She said, you know, you've had eight wars and nobody deserves this prize more than in history than you do.

And I thought it was a very nice gesture.

And by the way, I think she's a very fine woman and we'll be talking again.

Yeah, there you go.

You know, I like it when Trump accepted Moses' gift of the Ten Commandments.

I thought that

was good.

That was a good,

that was a special moment.

Or the posters for Trump Trophy Drop-Off Centers.

Boy.

Or the Thanos glove, right?

Okay.

And on it goes.

And the brain.

The scarecrow gave Trump a brain.

Right, I saw a picture of that.

Yeah, that's great

stuff.

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