Matt Rothschild and Angela Lang dive into heated discussions on the John and Gordy show. Angela reveals her organization’s shift to a co-executive model while callers raise existential questions about America’s future amid political polarization. Dan Barker of the Freedom from Religion Foundation tackles the threat of Christian nationalism and defends the U.S. founding ideals of secularism. Judy Davidoff of Isthmus explores the complex dynamics of local journalism funding and the surprising negative connotations of words like 'democracy.' The show is punctuated by critiques of Trump’s narcissism following Rob Reiner’s murder, casting a spotlight on the ethical decay in political discourse.

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